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Title: What have these Villa Players all got in common?
Post by: wittonwarrior on June 10, 2017, 10:44:37 AM
Ugo

Collymore

Brian Little

Stephen Warnock

Dion

Lee Hendrie

Kevin  Richardson

John Gidman

( I would also personally add Jimmy Rimmer to the list)
Title: Re: What have these Villa Players all got in common?
Post by: four fornicholl on June 10, 2017, 11:01:04 AM
1 England cap whilst on our books?
Title: Re: What have these Villa Players all got in common?
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 10, 2017, 11:01:26 AM
All won 1 England cap as Villa players?
Title: Re: What have these Villa Players all got in common?
Post by: Villan For Life on June 10, 2017, 11:07:48 AM
If that's the connection then you could add Nigel Spink to the list.
Title: Re: What have these Villa Players all got in common?
Post by: four fornicholl on June 10, 2017, 11:17:37 AM
Good shout, and Jimmy was at Arsenal.
Title: Re: What have these Villa Players all got in common?
Post by: wittonwarrior on June 10, 2017, 12:03:58 PM
I was sur rimner's appearance was in the states he played one half and corrigan the other. Must have been then just before he singed for us
Title: Re: What have these Villa Players all got in common?
Post by: Exeter 77 on June 10, 2017, 12:57:59 PM
I was sur rimner's appearance was in the states he played one half and corrigan the other. Must have been then just before he singed for us
It was 1976, part of an American bicentennial tournament.  Rimmer played against Italy. I really should get out more.
Title: Re: What have these Villa Players all got in common?
Post by: ldavfc4eva on June 10, 2017, 01:04:22 PM
Mark draper? Think he won one cap too
Title: Re: What have these Villa Players all got in common?
Post by: Exeter 77 on June 10, 2017, 01:09:19 PM
Mark draper? Think he won one cap too
I think Draper was called up for a couple of squads but never played.  I think this was the case with Ian Taylor,  Alan Wright and possibly Shaun Teale.
Title: Re: What have these Villa Players all got in common?
Post by: eamonn on June 10, 2017, 02:31:35 PM
Alan Thompson too?
Title: Re: What have these Villa Players all got in common?
Post by: Damo70 on June 10, 2017, 03:52:02 PM
Am I right in saying that Brian Little, Nigel Spink, Jimmy Rimmer, Mark Walters, Tony Daley and Andy Gray all got one England cap?
Title: Re: What have these Villa Players all got in common?
Post by: Damo70 on June 10, 2017, 03:54:42 PM
Ugo

Collymore

Brian Little

Stephen Warnock

Dion

Lee Hendrie

Kevin  Richardson

John Gidman

( I would also personally add Jimmy Rimmer to the list)




I think Kevin Richardson played two games 'back to back' in summer friendlies under Venables whilst at Villa.
Title: Re: What have these Villa Players all got in common?
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 10, 2017, 03:58:30 PM
According to Wiki "While at Villa, he also won his one and only cap for England, in a 5–0 friendly victory over Greece on 17 May 1994."
Title: Re: What have these Villa Players all got in common?
Post by: Damo70 on June 10, 2017, 04:00:17 PM
According to Wiki "While at Villa, he also won his one and only cap for England, in a 5–0 friendly victory over Greece on 17 May 1994."


Then my guess would be he was included in two squads but only selected for one game.
Title: Re: What have these Villa Players all got in common?
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on June 10, 2017, 09:22:24 PM


Brian Little, from 5 minutes onwards.
Title: Re: What have these Villa Players all got in common?
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on June 10, 2017, 09:45:55 PM
Gavin McCann.
1 cap v Spain in 2001 at VP.
Title: Re: What have these Villa Players all got in common?
Post by: PeterWithesShin on June 10, 2017, 09:47:15 PM
Gavin McCann.
1 cap v Spain in 2001 at VP.

He was still at Sunderland then though.
Title: Re: What have these Villa Players all got in common?
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on June 10, 2017, 10:25:17 PM
Gavin McCann.
1 cap v Spain in 2001 at VP.

He was still at Sunderland then though.

Well done, you spotted my "deliberate" mistake. :-[
Title: Re: What have these Villa Players all got in common?
Post by: ez on June 11, 2017, 10:59:57 AM
Nigel Spink played half a game.
Title: Re: What have these Villa Players all got in common?
Post by: Damo70 on June 11, 2017, 12:11:44 PM
Nigel Spink played half a game.

That was on a three match tour of Australia in 1983 wasn't it? I think Gary Shaw was also in the squad but I'm not sure he actually played.
Title: Re: What have these Villa Players all got in common?
Post by: Exeter 77 on June 11, 2017, 12:52:16 PM
Nigel Spink played half a game.

That was on a three match tour of Australia in 1983 wasn't it? I think Gary Shaw was also in the squad but I'm not sure he actually played.
Gary Shaw did go on that tour but was injured so didn't play and eventually never won a cap.
Title: Re: What have these Villa Players all got in common?
Post by: peter w on June 11, 2017, 12:59:36 PM
How was he only capped once for England?  A disgrace. Nearly scores and sets up the equalizer.
Title: Re: What have these Villa Players all got in common?
Post by: Damo70 on June 11, 2017, 01:13:40 PM
How was he only capped once for England?  A disgrace. Nearly scores and sets up the equalizer.

I know I am biased but I always believed Gordon Cowans was a better all round player than Glenn Hoddle. One got about fifty caps and the other only got about 10. And whilst I'm on the subject it would appear that in 1982 Graham Rix was a far better choice than Tony Morley for Espana '82.   And just to finish my rant clearly that Dennis Mortimer bloke was obviously considered useless too. Obviously Ron Greenwood and Don Howe thought David Armstrong was better. He hasn't got a league title and European cup winners medal though has he?
Title: Re: What have these Villa Players all got in common?
Post by: cdbearsfan on June 11, 2017, 01:19:23 PM
Am I right in saying that Brian Little, Nigel Spink, Jimmy Rimmer, Mark Walters, Tony Daley and Andy Gray all got one England cap?

Daley was capped seven times.
Title: Re: What have these Villa Players all got in common?
Post by: four fornicholl on June 11, 2017, 01:51:38 PM
This reminded me of Nick Culkin,Manchester United goalkeeper, who has the shortest premier league career ever, less than one second.
Title: Re: What have these Villa Players all got in common?
Post by: Damo70 on June 11, 2017, 01:55:40 PM
Am I right in saying that Brian Little, Nigel Spink, Jimmy Rimmer, Mark Walters, Tony Daley and Andy Gray all got one England cap?

Daley was capped seven times.


That has totally surprised me. One thing I have always defended SGT for is when people have a go at him for picking the likes of Keith Curle, Geoff Thomas, Andy Sinton and David White. Shilton and Butcher had retired, Bryan Robson was as good as finished, Gazza was injured and the likes of Shearer, Anderson, McManaman and the Neville brothers were still just up and coming youngsters. Robson and Venables had far more choice of players at their peak.
Title: Re: What have these Villa Players all got in common?
Post by: peter w on June 11, 2017, 10:30:39 PM
How was he only capped once for England?  A disgrace. Nearly scores and sets up the equalizer.

I know I am biased but I always believed Gordon Cowans was a better all round player than Glenn Hoddle. One got about fifty caps and the other only got about 10. And whilst I'm on the subject it would appear that in 1982 Graham Rix was a far better choice than Tony Morley for Espana '82.   And just to finish my rant clearly that Dennis Mortimer bloke was obviously considered useless too. Obviously Ron Greenwood and Don Howe thought David Armstrong was better. He hasn't got a league title and European cup winners medal though has he?

With that big nosed bastard Mariner up top.
Title: Re: What have these Villa Players all got in common?
Post by: Damo70 on June 16, 2017, 09:18:01 AM
How was he only capped once for England?  A disgrace. Nearly scores and sets up the equalizer.

I know I am biased but I always believed Gordon Cowans was a better all round player than Glenn Hoddle. One got about fifty caps and the other only got about 10. And whilst I'm on the subject it would appear that in 1982 Graham Rix was a far better choice than Tony Morley for Espana '82.   And just to finish my rant clearly that Dennis Mortimer bloke was obviously considered useless too. Obviously Ron Greenwood and Don Howe thought David Armstrong was better. He hasn't got a league title and European cup winners medal though has he?

With that big nosed bastard Mariner up top.


To be fair I'm pretty sure that around the time of the Espana '82 world cup he set a record for scoring in a number of consecutive England games.
Title: Re: What have these Villa Players all got in common?
Post by: wittonwarrior on June 16, 2017, 11:38:47 AM
For Mortimer it was the first time that he would have felt  unwanted.  When he was in junior football he was the last one from his club in Kirkby  to get fixed up with a professional club. 

For all that he had a decent enough career, don't you think.
Title: Re: What have these Villa Players all got in common?
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on June 25, 2017, 06:57:39 PM
How was he only capped once for England?  A disgrace. Nearly scores and sets up the equalizer.

I know I am biased but I always believed Gordon Cowans was a better all round player than Glenn Hoddle. One got about fifty caps and the other only got about 10. And whilst I'm on the subject it would appear that in 1982 Graham Rix was a far better choice than Tony Morley for Espana '82.   And just to finish my rant clearly that Dennis Mortimer bloke was obviously considered useless too. Obviously Ron Greenwood and Don Howe thought David Armstrong was better. He hasn't got a league title and European cup winners medal though has he?

I'm sure I read somewhere in 1982 Peter Withe was the first ever Villa player to be named in an England World Cup squad.

Nobody can take this away from him though:

Title: Re: What have these Villa Players all got in common?
Post by: Damo70 on June 25, 2017, 07:06:03 PM
I pretty sure Peter Withe broke his cheekbone in that game.
Title: Re: What have these Villa Players all got in common?
Post by: WarszaVillan on June 26, 2017, 11:21:23 AM
How was he only capped once for England?  A disgrace. Nearly scores and sets up the equalizer.

I know I am biased but I always believed Gordon Cowans was a better all round player than Glenn Hoddle. One got about fifty caps and the other only got about 10. And whilst I'm on the subject it would appear that in 1982 Graham Rix was a far better choice than Tony Morley for Espana '82.   And just to finish my rant clearly that Dennis Mortimer bloke was obviously considered useless too. Obviously Ron Greenwood and Don Howe thought David Armstrong was better. He hasn't got a league title and European cup winners medal though has he?

I'm sure I read somewhere in 1982 Peter Withe was the first ever Villa player to be named in an England World Cup squad.

Nobody can take this away from him though:



And Sid setting up a Trevor Francis goal!
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