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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Dazvillain on June 01, 2017, 05:39:13 PM
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Just seen in last few minutes he has been suspended from all football activity for 3 weeks and fined £10k by FA for breach of media rules..... bloody great timing whilst we try to recruit and negotiate new transfers !?
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Eh? Source?
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I spotted it too, from the FA.
Not sure what it's about or if it is legit. Not great timing.
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Looking at what it's for, fuck me we've every right to be paranoid.
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I'm sorry fellas but I can't see anything about it in the Mail, the OS or any Villa twitter accounts. Seems like fake news.
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http://www.thefa.com/news/2017/jun/01/aston-villa-chief-executive-keith-wyness-suspended-three-week-misconduct-social-media-010617
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Ignore me, the Mail now reporting that he retweeted a video with an abusive comment attahced - he claims it was an honest mistake.
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Anyone know what the tweet was?
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Naturally like everyone here, I have maximum respect for the FA. We have to accept this and vow to mend our ways.
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Naturally like everyone here, I have maximum respect for the FA. We have to accept this and vow to mend our ways.
We can rest assured that other owners' misdemeanors will be punished with equal force.
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It's reassuring to know that we are held to a higher standard than just about any other club in the land.
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If it is as it seems on the face of it, it's ridiculous.
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Looking at what it's for, fuck me we've every right to be paranoid.
Back to my bit last season that punishments for us are always disproportionate.
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Looking at what it's for, fuck me we've every right to be paranoid.
Back to my bit last season that punishments for us are always disproportionate.
Agreed, this is ridiculous.
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Looking at what it's for, fuck me we've every right to be paranoid.
Back to my bit last season that punishments for us are always disproportionate.
Agreed, this is ridiculous.
I will try to get more fromantic the man himself first but looks like one for the Trust to throw a tantrum about to me.
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I wouldn't worry too much about as it looks like an exercise in optics. I mean, how in the name of all that's good and holy do you stop a man from answering his mobile? More football nonsense.
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The FA really fancy themselves as the Thought Police.
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He'll probably be on holiday for the next three weeks anyway.
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Looking at what it's for, fuck me we've every right to be paranoid.
Back to my bit last season that punishments for us are always disproportionate.
Agreed, this is ridiculous.
I will try to get more fromantic the man himself first but looks like one for the Trust to throw a tantrum about to me.
Always had you down as a New Fromantic.
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He'll be less inclined to share his thoughts with us now, that could have kept us going during times when we're pissed off. At least we still have Tone as a mouthpiece I guess.
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Rumour has it the original tweet was a comment on a penalty we should have had v Brighton -with a dig at the ref.
" as it included a reference to disability." is the key passage I think
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Wild stab in the dark but that would probably be questioning whether the referee had seen an optician recently.
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I'd imagine so.
Speaking of visually impaired officials, is the linesman Bacuna viciously attacked out of his coma yet?
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Fuck me, what have we done to upset the FA? They like nothing more than chucking the bloody book at us.
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Can there be another club that seems to uniquely get carpetted by the FA for stuff that goes on all the time elsewhere? There must be a Nose working there in the background somewhere, it's the only logical explanation!
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Bloody hell, can we not call refs blind anymore?
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or one eyed?
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I'd imagine so.
Speaking of visually impaired officials, is the linesman Bacuna viciously attacked out of his coma yet?
That linesman was lame.
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To be fair the only thing he can't do his noticeably be doing his job. Behind the scenes it'll be no different/ Remembering as well that this is still not next season or pre-season yet, so many players will be on their holidays. Couple of weeks off and then it'll be good to go (again). Hopefully that was taken into consideration when penalising him.
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We must have a reputation with the FA for being a soft target. Do what makes us look PC where Villa are involved. They never complain.
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I honestly can't believe he's been banned over this, even if it wasn't a mistake there wasn't really any insult, just a video of Lewis Dunk kicking Davis in the air and a comment saying "referees in this league have actual disabilities" (or something very close to that). It's crass but it's not really saying anything other than "are you blind ref?" or "did you leave your specs at home?". I reckon there isn't a game goes by at a professional level where someone doesn't say something like that at least once during the game.
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I'd imagine so.
Speaking of visually impaired officials, is the linesman Bacuna viciously attacked out of his coma yet?
Good point well made, Ads - but I'm more interested in whether Bacuna was ever hauled up on a Disrepute Charge for his piss-poor attempt of impersonating a professional footballer.
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The word to sum up this punshment of Keith Wyness is 'petty'.
Anybody who goes to games knows that it is marbled through with sexism, racism, homophobia and bigotry. It is nowhere near as bad as it used to be but it is still there. Ridding the game of those vices is a work in progress but the FA straining at the gnat of a referee having his vision questioned while swallowing camels like England fans doing Dambusters with impunity tells you everything about the FA.
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The FA, and all other official football bodies for that matter, have always been run by wankers. This proves they still are.
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Blazers to a man.
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The FA, and all other official football bodies for that matter, have always been run by wankers. This proves they still are.
Be careful not to disparage their sexuality or you'll be for it!
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Blazers to a man.
'Blazers', Brian? Well there's a euphemism that's somehow passed me by!
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Blazers as first used by Will Carling to describe the old farts running the RFU. One name fits all.
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Blazers to a man.
'Blazers', Brian? Well there's a euphemism that's somehow passed me by!
"It is used to insult someone that looks like or is acting like a total fogie." (Urban Dictionary)
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Jazz Hats and Jizz Buckets.
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Referees in this league actually have disabilities hashtag avfc
I actually think it's a stupid tweet from a man in his position (even if it was a re-tweet and he didn't actually type it). I really hope he's more switched on, methodical and aware in his role at the club and he was just caught up in the excitement/moment of the match.
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A warning would have been suffice really wouldnt it?
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A warning would have been suffice really wouldnt it?
Maybe, according to this article though (written in 2014) the FA have made over £350,000 in Twitter fines since 2011 (well between 2011-2014) God knows the amount they're on now? 121 cases in that 3 year period so it's not a new thing and it's certainly not just us as a club that have been singled out. It obviously seems harsh to most people on here but a man in his position must be aware of what has gone on before and the prior fines handed out? For the record Ashley Cole's fine of £90,000 for calling the FA "A bunch of Tw*ts" is the highest between that time.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/oct/30/fa-fines-rio-ferdinand-twitter
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Complete and utter nonsense from the FA.
Instead they should be actively trying to improve the standard of refereeing in the Championship. I really have been shocked this last season at just how poor the standard is, most on a comedy level.
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A warning would have been suffice really wouldnt it?
Of course it would. The FA have spent all season making an example of us by applying excessive bans with no precedence, this is just the latest in a list of them. This is also why I think the approach of being whiter than white regarding FFP is the right thing to do. You can guarantee that if we win the league but we're slightly over the limit we'd be the first club to get a meaningful punishment for it and our promotion would be under threat.
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I agree with Rudy. Ultimately if you do not want referees to be the subject of criticism (fair, impersonal criticism) demand that they are better at their jobs and provide them with the support to make it happen.
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I agree with Rudy. Ultimately if you do not want referees to be the subject of criticism (fair, impersonal criticism) demand that they are better at their jobs and provide them with the support to make it happen.
I also agree regarding the refereeing but the FA have major form regarding Twitter posts and punishment which is why I think it actually makes the post worse. Was it "abusive and/or insulting and/or improper?" as the FA claim/ found? It's almost like parking your car on double yellow in front of a traffic warden and then being surprised at the outcome when you get a fine. Wyness started his career as a graduate apparently in the press office marketing, promotions, sales dept at British Airways - so he's well aware of social media/press/print and its consequences and if he isn't by now then heaven help us. I hope he's not gonna follow in the footsteps of our last 2 CEO's who were unmitigated disasters but in my humble opinion this incident doesn't shower him in any glory whats so ever. If I was Tony I'd expect and want more from him. The FA well, I'd be surprised if everyone on here doesn't share too dissimilar a view on them - probably similar to traffic wardens (apologies in advance to anyone on here who is a traffic warden ;-).
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Silly thing to say but crikey talk about an over the top punishment.
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Silly thing to say but crikey talk about an over the top punishment.
Apparently the fine was doubled because he was also caught running down the corridor.
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I really thought if anybody would come a cropper with twitter, it would be our owner.
Still a massive over reaction from the stuffed shirt brigade.
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As a matter of interest have the FA dealt with Millwall over their numerous pitch invasions and fan trouble?
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Way over the top.
I'm left wondering where the FA derive the authority to prevent a CEO from doing their job - he's employed by Villa, not the "Twats at the FA"...and where were they when Fox was in charge ?
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The standard of refereeing in this league is absolutely abysmal. I'll never complain about the twonks we have in the top flight again!
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As a matter of interest have the FA dealt with Millwall over their numerous pitch invasions and fan trouble?
The FA have done FA but the local Labour cancel are allegedly flogging their ground and banishing them to Kent.
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Wyness should have his twitter finger chopped off. How dare he!
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Good job he didn't tweet anything racist, he'd have been banned for at least a week.
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Millwall are very lucky they are not in Southwark. They would make them play on the Goodwin Sands at low tide.
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Reminds me of an anecdote I remember from Pat Partridge's autobiography (former referee for anyone under the age of forty).
Footballer: what would you do if I called you a c*nt?
Partridge: I'd have no choice under the rules of the game but to give you a red card.
Footballer: what would you do if I thought you were a c*nt?
Partridge: well, there wouldn't be anything I could do about that.
Footballer: in that case, ref, I think you're a c*nt.
If you're reading this FA, I think you're c*nts.
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Yes a bit of a daft thing to do but a quiet word should have sufficed. I do wonder what the legality of such a fine and suspension would be. Can they legally take £10k off an employee of a club who is not player? And can they legally suspend them from doing their job? What if the Cleaner, the Chef or the Ground keeper place an (so-called) offensive tweet?
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Reminds me of an anecdote I remember from Pat Partridge's autobiography (former referee for anyone under the age of forty).
Footballer: what would you do if I called you a c*nt?
Partridge: I'd have no choice under the rules of the game but to give you a red card.
Footballer: what would you do if I thought you were a c*nt?
Partridge: well, there wouldn't be anything I could do about that.
Footballer: in that case, ref, I think you're a c*nt.
If you're reading this FA, I think you're c*nts.
Haha! Excellent.
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Wasn't that conversation accredited to George Best?
Likely to be apochraphylic.
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I don't think prophylactics were mentioned, George being the clean living boy he was.
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I don't think prophylactics were mentioned, George being the clean living boy he was.
Are they those yoghurts that are good for your tum-tum?
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It's what middle class Oldham fans call themselves. Etymologically 'proper Latics' bastardised with time and usage.
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It's what middle class Oldham fans call themselves. Entomologically 'proper Latics' bastardised with time and usage.
Ha ha Brian. Love it!
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Wasn't that conversation accredited to George Best?
Likely to be apochraphylic.
Rodney Marsh I think.
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Wasn't that conversation accredited to George Best?
Likely to be apochraphylic.
Rodney Marsh I think.
I thought it was Emlyn Hughes, but it's years since I read it.
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OK bumping this....
See Saints are accusing Liverpool of an illegal approach to Van Djik adn reported to the FA. Lets just see what happens to them eh?
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Liverpool could tweet out a picture of Stephen Hawking dressed as a referee holding up a 'Welcome Van Djik' card and they may get a warning.
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I hope his scouse accent is better than his cockney.
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Never hit the same heights since Mary Popins
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Very good Chicago. ..very good
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OK bumping this....
See Saints are accusing Liverpool of an illegal approach to Van Djik adn reported to the FA. Lets just see what happens to them eh?
It seems a simple public apology is enough to let Liverpool off the hook...if I were Wyness/Xia I would be expressing my considered thoughts to the FA on this matter.
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Indeed, absolutely ridiculous.
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Southampton are probably feeling a little stupid right now. Fifty million pounds!
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It's what middle class Oldham fans call themselves. Etymologically 'proper Latics' bastardised with time and usage.
I've seen us play at Oldham a number of times. I don't remember my first impression being 'ooh, this is rather middle class'. Although to be fair they did have a carpet with no mud for a pitch.
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I wonder who has got rid of more 'employees' in the last few years. Aston Villa or Kim Jong Un?
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I wonder who has got rid of more 'employees' in the last few years. Aston Villa or Kim Jong Un?
I wish we'd employed his methods, I don't think he pays his off 😀