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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: UK Redsox on May 07, 2017, 11:08:57 AM
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Apologies for the delay, I was talking to Leeg
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If Grealish can't get in that team then he's in trouble.
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If Grealish can't get in that team then he's in trouble.
He's just poor, never going to make it.
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Urgh. Bacuna. That's made my decision easier. Shall not be watching.
Good luck lads, could be the spud's last match.
Play someone up with Hogan.
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Looks like 4-4-2 though with Bacuna playing on the right and Amavi on the left, 4 full backs in the team show how desperate we are for real pacy wide players this Summer.
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4 5 1 I reckon with Bacuna in the middle
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Boring team.
What's happened to Hepburn-Murphy? Since he signed a new deal he's made I think one sub appearance. Surely if he's fit it wouldn't have hurt to put him up there with Hogan and see how it goes.
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Urgh. Bacuna. That's made my decision easier. Shall not be watching.
Good luck lads, could be the spud's last march.
Play someone up with Hogan.
That's the spirit. And it won't be his last match.
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Urgh. Bacuna. That's made my decision easier. Shall not be watching.
Good luck lads, could be the spud's last march.
Play someone up with Hogan.
That's the spirit. And it won't be his last match.
Thank you!
And you never know.
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It's been recorded as a 4-3-3
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Hopefully Amavi is sold in the Summer, he has been absolutely shit this season.
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Hopefully Amavi is sold in the Summer, he has been absolutely shit this season.
Can say the same for all but 3 of them.
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Boring team.
What's happened to Hepburn-Murphy? Since he signed a new deal he's made I think one sub appearance. Surely if he's fit it wouldn't have hurt to put him up there with Hogan and see how it goes.
Out with a hamstring injury. Same as Green.
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PM a link if there is one please and thanks...
Have a great summer all!!!
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Staggered Sky aren't showing the potential title winners....fucking Forest?!!
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Staggered Sky aren't showing the potential title winners....fucking Forest?!!
It's most likely them or Blackburn going down, those 2 games were always going to be chosen.
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Glad to see Bree playing.
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If Grealish can't get in that team then he's in trouble.
He's just poor, never going to make it.
Well Bacuna keeps getting played, so there is still hope.
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Staggered Sky aren't showing the potential title winners....fucking Forest?!!
With our record being on TV, I'd be happy to never see us on TV again.
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Blackburn 1 up.
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Decent effort from Angela.
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Come on Forest
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Brentford Blackburn on Sky5
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Come on Forest
You've won two European Cups FFS.
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Blackburn 1 up.
2-0 now. C'mon Forest!!
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Bristol conceded the bastards.
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Blues one up.
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Adams scores for the noses.Shouldn't even be playing
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How the fuck has he missed that!!
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Angela misses a sitter.
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Angela you complete dork!
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Lansbury heads wide of an open goal from 6 yards out. Sitter.
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shocking miss
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Afternoon all, how are we playing?
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How is Adams playing for noses, didn't he get sent off last week?
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How is Adams playing for noses, didn't he get sent off last week?
Rescinded.
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Can I just say for the record, for 3942th time, that I really hate the low camera angle at VP these days.
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Yeah not only did Blues get a free win, Adams got his red wiped off and scored today. Redknapp doing his stuff.
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Where are people watching the game?
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Bacuna and a red mohawk, oh dear.
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Bree doing well there.
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Where are people watching the game?
On my laptop. :P
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The difference a player like Knockeart makes is amazing.
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Where are people watching the game?
On my laptop. :P
On my iPad through telly
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Bacuna and a red mohawk, oh dear.
Let's hope that's the last time we see him in a Villa shirt, Wanker.
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Where are people watching the game?
On my laptop. :P
On my iPad through telly
Posh bugger!
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Where are people watching the game?
At home switching between the Blackburn and Forest games.
Is that a massive Sylvester the Cat in the Holte?
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The difference a player like Knockeart makes is amazing.
Yeah but you need cloggers at this level....
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"Sidwell can't keep it down", didn't know he was that excited to be back at VP.
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any links, PM please??
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Hogan nearly scores.
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Pocognoli has been our best player so far.
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Should have put his foot through that Hogan. Christ knows what that corner routine was about. They ain't good enough for that garbage.
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That is the worst corner I've ever seen us take!
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That is the worst corner I've ever seen us take!
Yep. They need to learn how to take a basic corner first. Something we haven't been able to do for years.
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Actually quite enjoying this. Look8ng forward to the late drama that sees the noses down too.
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Good afternoon. Judging by the short thread so far i haven't missed much.
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penalty for forest
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Hogan crocked by Sidwell.
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Nasty one from Sidwell, dirty git.
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So we've had the best chances, then?
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That is the worst corner I've ever seen us take!
We've actually been pretty decent at corners this year.
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Christ that didnt look good.
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Looks bad
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Hogan looks like he's going off.
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Off and Davis on.
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So we've had the best chances, then?
I would say so, yes.
Not too bad a game so far.
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So we've had the best chances, then?
Thanks to Pocognoli.
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Hotlips with a decent freekick, forces a decent save.
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Good free kick that, unlucky.
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He's a good keeper Stockdale
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Can we at not least block the keeper if were going to persist with floaty corners.
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And now Bacuna is down.
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Sidwell is slowly wiping or players out
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Sidwell is slowly wiping or players out
Yet no booking
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So they've got promoted to the top flight for the first time in decades, they whined about their ticket allocation yet you'd not know that any Brighton fans were there.
I thought they'd be jumping.
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HT. We were ok.
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WM seem to think the Hogan injury is serious.
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Is this the right impression (partly because it's par for the course)
We've been ok. Not passed the ball very well. Our chances have come from the generally shit standard of defending in this league?
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I guess that was our good half. Pile your money on Brighton.
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WM seem to think the Hogan injury is serious.
Not sure how they came to that conclusion as he managed to walk off.
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WM seem to think the Hogan injury is serious.
He has literally had no luck at all since he joined us. Was firing on all cylinders at Brentford, career at a dead stop since joining us.
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Pretty poor game. We have zero fluidity to our passing and movement. We have had the best of the chances though.
45 minutes I'll never get back.
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WM seem to think the Hogan injury is serious.
Not sure how they came to that conclusion as he managed to walk off.
They were saying he was in tears and given his previous record he'd know if it felt a bad one or not. Let's hope it's just a false scare like the one he had up at Newcastle.
Just because you walk off dosen't mean it's not ligaments or something. I remember Okore walking off v Newcastle and he was out for 10 months.
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I thought the game was played with the urgency of a pre season friendly from both teams and fans if I'm honest.
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WM seem to think the Hogan injury is serious.
He has literally had no luck at all since he joined us. Was firing on all cylinders at Brentford, career at a dead stop since joining us.
Like most of the fuckers we buy.
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Could have been a pen for us there.
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2-0 Forest.
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Should have
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From all the comments on here, is their a referee at this match?
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32,856.
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32,856.
Referees?
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Poor from Albert and Hotlips.
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In which minute are Bristol City going to score? About 90+2 will do for me ;D
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From all the comments on here, is their a referee at this match?
A poor one!
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Johnstone saves us
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Blackburn 2-1.
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Albert off, Jack on.
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Pen and a red card. Baker sent off.
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Baker sent off, last man and out for first game.
Murray pen. 0-1.
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0-1 and Baker sent off.
End. Season. Now.
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FFS.
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Couldn't fucking wait to give it. Prick.
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Oh good. Boring, indisciplined football. What a way to end the season. And no doubt the noses will stay up too.
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Shocking defending by Baker to end up in that position. We missed chances and paid the price.
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I suspected we'd Villa it up.
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Amavi off, Tommy on.
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Nice to see Bruce is going for it
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Never a sending off. Didn't even look like a foul. Poor decision.
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Typical. And we were looking half decent too. It's ok though Elphick is coming on. SMDH.
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Brighton have been much better second half to be fair. We've been our usual selves.
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Bollocks, bullshit and Balderdash!
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Ludicrous red
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Shocking defending by Baker to end up in that position. We missed chances and paid the price.
Baker is horribly flat footed, bambi on ice against better players including Glenn Murray
Central midfield dont appear to be offering the defence any protection either, Lansbury MIA
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Brighton have been much better second half to be fair. We've been our usual selves.
We've been far the better side this half
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Commentating on the Forest game, Conor McNamara on 5Live says something like "You can just imagine Harry Redknapp prowling the technical area with his twitch going". Hope he doesn't lose his job (Conor, not 'arry).
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Should have been 2, awful by us again.
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Who had 3 minutes for Elphick fucking up?
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Bollocks, bullshit and Balderdash!
So that's the forwards, who is playing in midfield and defence?
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What's that you say Tommy Elphick with a poor back pass you say?
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Brighton have been much better second half to be fair. We've been our usual selves.
We've been far the better side this half
But Brighton have improved and put some decent moves together, when teams put us under pressure we don't often hold out.
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Woeful freekick. Lansbury has been shit since missing that header.
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We're gonna struggle to keep this down to 1.
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Thanks to Aston Villa these past few years I fucking hate football.
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come on Bristol!
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come on Bristol!
That's really all that's left now. I have no doubt a direct nut kick is somewhere in our future.
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sidwell no booking again
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anyone pm me the necessary please.
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too many over hit balls
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get Bacuna off and out of our club! prat!
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anyone pm me the necessary please.
It's over, go back to bed.
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come on Bristol!
6 minutes for them.
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Thanks to Aston Villa these past few years I fucking hate football.
I barely watch any now when we're not playing and even then I usually wish I hadn't.
I'll despise Lerner, Lambert, Faulkner and Fox till my last breath I think.
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6 minutes added time at Ashton Gate. Come on Bristol - one goal.
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To be fair to Bacuna that was right in his range
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JACKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!
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Yes!
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who said jack is shit
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booooom
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Well as it stands we won't be challenging for anything next season. Let's hope our 'football people' Wyness and Round have it on them to sort this out. All they've done so far is spunk a fortune on shit which was part of the problem that led us to where we are.
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brighton fan must have turned off my stream - bitter twat
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hahaha
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Do Newcastle fans forgive us now?
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Awful by their keeper it has to be said. Which is even funnier.
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Awful by their keeper it has to be said. Which is even funnier.
Wasn't it a pearler? That's all Jack does.
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Blues stay up
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So we play poorly and with 10 men against an automatically-promoted side and scrape a draw.
Sums up the division.
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And a shit season ends.
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Fucking 13th.
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And a shit season ends.
Thank fuck
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Three games they had to win the league.......
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Fucking 13th.
Blimey not even top half in the end. That is poor. Finishing top half was one of my few remaining arguments that SB had done o.k. Hmmmm.
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Huddersfield are twats. They help sha stay up and allow Cardiff to go above us on goals scored. That league place was worth a fortune to us! Well about 50p in prize money.
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Well I can only sum this up by the fact that I didn't know that we'd even kicked off. Bruce gone yet?
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Good riddance to this season. Hopefully next season sees us up.
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not with that gutless shower!
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And a shit season ends.
Like the last one. The one before that, the one before that......
We'd better start well come August!!
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Can anyone even be arsed to do a post-match thread? Does anyone even want one?
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Can anyone even be arsed to do a post-match thread? Does anyone even want one?
No thanks!
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Battling point in the end - that's the post match analysis !
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Several streets closed off in Birmingham city centre tomorrow due to the open top bus parade for SHA.
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Season done. Bruce out!
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Amazed we did a lap of appreciation in the end.
It was a dismal season ffs. Just clap the fans at the final whistle and get off the pitch. We didn't even win the game or finish top half.
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Congratulations Bruce. No pressure. Villa Park send off for the season. And you play for a draw at home to fucking Brighton. And I grant you they've done very well this season. Good luck to them, but they're still fucking Brighton. They have Steve Sidwell running their midfield ffs.
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Congratulations Bruce. No pressure. Villa Park send off for the season. And you play for a draw at home to fucking Brighton. And I grant you they've done very well this season. Good luck to them, but they're still fucking Brighton. They have Steve Sidwell running their midfield ffs.
How did he play for a draw?
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Play for a draw? We were easily the better side and should have won.
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Don't worry anyone, we're 7-1 favourites to win the league next season, Fucking laughable.
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A frustrating end to a frustrating season. I hate seeing other teams happy, particularly when it's the Jawdies.
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Congratulations Bruce. No pressure. Villa Park send off for the season. And you play for a draw at home to fucking Brighton. And I grant you they've done very well this season. Good luck to them, but they're still fucking Brighton. They have Steve Sidwell running their midfield ffs.
How did he play for a draw?
That line up just looked like a 0-0 damage limitation job to me. Full backs in midfield (Amavi is not and never will be a midfielder. Bacuna is just neither here nor there lets face it) And we hardly set the world alight (As per).
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I quite liked them crying on our pitch. They didn't deserve the point they got.
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Don't worry anyone, we're 7-1 favourites to win the league next season, Fucking laughable.
The bookies are very generous on the evidence of this season.
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I quite liked them crying on our pitch. They didn't deserve the point they got.
The only downside is the horse-punchers got the title. Still, at least we won't have to put up with the insufferable twats next season.
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I can be one of the most negative people out there when it comes to Villa but I thought we played quite well today and fully deserved the point. Onwards and upwards! UTV
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Congratulations Bruce. No pressure. Villa Park send off for the season. And you play for a draw at home to fucking Brighton. And I grant you they've done very well this season. Good luck to them, but they're still fucking Brighton. They have Steve Sidwell running their midfield ffs.
How did he play for a draw?
That line up just looked like a 0-0 damage limitation job to me. Full backs in midfield (Amavi is not and never will be a midfielder. Bacuna is just neither here nor there lets face it) And we hardly set the world alight (As per).
Considering we were down to 10 men and had a young lad from Biggleswade Town up front for most of the match, i thought it was a decent point.
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Don't worry anyone, we're 7-1 favourites to win the league next season, Fucking laughable.
The bookies are very generous on the evidence of this season.
it won't be on the evidence of this season though. It will be based on teams likely coming down, and mainly the fact that we will have tremendous resources and a manager who has got promoted several times from this division even if he has looked massively average so far. I think 7-1 is worth a punt because those odds will come down closer to the season.
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If we can play like that for the majority of the season we'll piss it. But not having your main striker during pre season (and possibly the alternative one too) is just plain shitty luck.
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We played quite well, by our standards. Our passing was still pretty poor, we didn't create much as most of our best chances came from their fuck ups and freekicks. They were crap as well. Sums up our season overall, a crap side got a result against us and we top the Woulda Coulda Shoulda league.
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We should have had at least one penalty as well. Their what, second attack and they get a penalty.
I liked the young lad. Needs a lot of bulking up and game time.on loan, but he was very awkward customer. Some potential there.
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Congratulations Bruce. No pressure. Villa Park send off for the season. And you play for a draw at home to fucking Brighton. And I grant you they've done very well this season. Good luck to them, but they're still fucking Brighton. They have Steve Sidwell running their midfield ffs.
How did he play for a draw?
That line up just looked like a 0-0 damage limitation job to me. Full backs in midfield (Amavi is not and never will be a midfielder. Bacuna is just neither here nor there lets face it) And we hardly set the world alight (As per).
Considering we were down to 10 men and had a young lad from Biggleswade Town up front for most of the match, i thought it was a decent point.
Yeah in the end. I was talking more about how Bruce went into the game rather than the circumstances during it. I still can't settle my stomach enough to find a point at home to Brighton particularly great though.
That being said he chose to overpay for a striker with a questionnable injury record. You'd think we'd learn from all the previous sicknotes we've bought. #Blamanche Ron
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Being a striker for Villa is the same as being the drummer for Spinal Tap.
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Congratulations Bruce. No pressure. Villa Park send off for the season. And you play for a draw at home to fucking Brighton. And I grant you they've done very well this season. Good luck to them, but they're still fucking Brighton. They have Steve Sidwell running their midfield ffs.
How did he play for a draw?
That line up just looked like a 0-0 damage limitation job to me. Full backs in midfield (Amavi is not and never will be a midfielder. Bacuna is just neither here nor there lets face it) And we hardly set the world alight (As per).
Considering we were down to 10 men and had a young lad from Biggleswade Town up front for most of the match, i thought it was a decent point.
Yeah in the end. I was talking more about how Bruce went into the game rather than the circumstances during it. I still can't settle my stomach enough to find a point at home to Brighton particularly great though.
That being said he chose to overpay for a striker with a questionnable injury record. You'd think we'd learn from all the previous sicknotes we've bought. #Blamanche Ron
Who would you have played then out of interest?
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Big theoretical question - have we seen enough of Davis to play him more often, or do we try and poach someone like Tammy Abraham?
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Highlights
http://www.skysports.com/football/a-villa-vs-brighton/358650
We had much the better chances, should have won, but as usual found a way not to. Baker was poor for getting turned but the penalty decision was just horrendous.
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if Kodjia had been p[laying we would have won. Davis had 2 chances fluffed them both and looked very slow to me. Hogan is never going to cut it at VP - no real threat and looks very injury prone. much work to be done in the summer and I'm loosing faith that Bruce is the man to do it.
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Big theoretical question - have we seen enough of Davis to play him more often, or do we try and poach someone like Tammy Abraham?
I think he needs half a season on loan, very raw but I think he's got something to.offer.
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Congratulations Bruce. No pressure. Villa Park send off for the season. And you play for a draw at home to fucking Brighton. And I grant you they've done very well this season. Good luck to them, but they're still fucking Brighton. They have Steve Sidwell running their midfield ffs.
How did he play for a draw?
That line up just looked like a 0-0 damage limitation job to me. Full backs in midfield (Amavi is not and never will be a midfielder. Bacuna is just neither here nor there lets face it) And we hardly set the world alight (As per).
Considering we were down to 10 men and had a young lad from Biggleswade Town up front for most of the match, i thought it was a decent point.
Yeah in the end. I was talking more about how Bruce went into the game rather than the circumstances during it. I still can't settle my stomach enough to find a point at home to Brighton particularly great though.
That being said he chose to overpay for a striker with a questionnable injury record. You'd think we'd learn from all the previous sicknotes we've bought. #Blamanche Ron
Who would you have played then out of interest?
Grealish for one, from the start. I really don't understand what we're doing with Hourihane either. That's not purely on Bruce (because he's played a little overawed thus far), but he's tended to play him (And Angela) quite negatively (granted slightly less so today in fairness). I'd have been tempted by one of the younger attacking lads from the beginning ahead of Bacuna. It's patently obvious he's not good enough, and I had hoped after his suspension that would be all she wrote.
I know Jack hasn't always helped himself but we really need someone getting the best out of him and encouraging us to play football. I don't think the Championship is quite the slogfest Bruce thinks anymore. Grealish needs to work harder, but we need to get our talented players, playing better football. I don't see that happening under Bruce.
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I thought Ange and Hurricane both had good games
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davis reminds me of Danny Wellbeck decent back to goal striker
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I can be one of the most negative people out there when it comes to Villa but I thought we played quite well today and fully deserved the point. Onwards and upwards! UTV
Thought the same, good with the ball anyway. Davis held it up well, Grealish added some much needed quality and Hourihane looked the most likely to create something. Balanced against that, our midfield collectively were lazy as hell without the ball. Murray made a mug of Baker regularly, wasn't impressed by Bree and as for mad Tommy's cameo!!
Getting a result when 1-0 down with 10 men is a decent result. Diabolical season mind, the laughing stock of English football for the second year in a row.
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Congratulations Bruce. No pressure. Villa Park send off for the season. And you play for a draw at home to fucking Brighton. And I grant you they've done very well this season. Good luck to them, but they're still fucking Brighton. They have Steve Sidwell running their midfield ffs.
How did he play for a draw?
That line up just looked like a 0-0 damage limitation job to me. Full backs in midfield (Amavi is not and never will be a midfielder. Bacuna is just neither here nor there lets face it) And we hardly set the world alight (As per).
Considering we were down to 10 men and had a young lad from Biggleswade Town up front for most of the match, i thought it was a decent point.
Yeah in the end. I was talking more about how Bruce went into the game rather than the circumstances during it. I still can't settle my stomach enough to find a point at home to Brighton particularly great though.
That being said he chose to overpay for a striker with a questionnable injury record. You'd think we'd learn from all the previous sicknotes we've bought. #Blamanche Ron
Who would you have played then out of interest?
Grealish for one, from the start. I really don't understand what we're doing with Hourihane either. That's not purely on Bruce (because he's played a little overawed thus far), but he's tended to play him (And Angela) quite negatively (granted slightly less so today in fairness). I'd have been tempted by one of the younger attacking lads from the beginning ahead of Bacuna. It's patently obvious he's not good enough, and I had hoped after his suspension that would be all she wrote.
I know Jack hasn't always helped himself but we really need someone getting the best out of him and encouraging us to play football. I don't think the Championship is quite the slogfest Bruce thinks anymore. Grealish needs to work harder, but we need to get our talented players, playing better football. I don't see that happening under Bruce.
I'd have probably started Grealisg too but i'm not sure that he played for a draw just because he picked Amavi wide left.
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I thought we were much the better team and could, and should, have won that match.
I didn't think much of Brighton at all.
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Finally, we start getting the ball in and around the box, which is manna for Hogan, and the fecker wasn't there !
The poor kid really has no luck. I must admit, the way he was reacting, after that challenge, I thought he had broken his ankle. Let's hope a long summer of rest has him coming back in full fitness.
Young Davis impressed immensely.
There is something to build on there.
Hourihane going into centre mid brought out the best in him, and probably the best 45 mins from us since the last time we played Brighton.
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Much the better side today, a draw a least we deserved. Red and pen see scandalous. Celebrations at end were good and I got teary doing half time memorials.
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Thought we played alright today to be fair, the annoying/confusing part for me though was when Davis came on (who impressed me greatly) we finally push Hourihane and lansbury further forward and start playing the ball in behind when that is exactly what we should have been doing with Hogan 4 months ago.
Looked like we should have had a nailed on pen for the foul on Davis?
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just a few yards away from it and it was clearly a penalty imo
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if Kodjia had been p[laying we would have won. Davis had 2 chances fluffed them both and looked very slow to me. Hogan is never going to cut it at VP - no real threat and looks very injury prone. much work to be done in the summer and I'm loosing faith that Bruce is the man to do it.
It's a bit to early to be writing off Hogan I think after just a handful of games, I hope next season he stays clear of injuries and plays how he can do.
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Bit of justice is equalising; we were by far the better team.
Have heard that Baker's sending off and the penalty were dodgy. We should have had a penalty before they scored, not sure how the Linesman missed it.
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Villa Park looked gorgeous from the highlights, bathed in sunlight. Looked a great game too, we more than matched a team who only didn't win the league cos of our results today. If we show a bit more nous we should be aiming to win all 46 games next season.
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Howe Brighton have got themselves promoted is top secret- two difficult to fathom out on a heir two appearances Afainst us
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Howe Brighton have got themselves promoted is top secret- two difficult to fathom out on a heir two appearances Afainst us
Pardon?
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Howe Brighton have got themselves promoted is top secret- two difficult to fathom out on a heir two appearances Afainst us
How much did you drink at the match?
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quite strange we were probably the better team twice against Brighton . now they are a Prem team.
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I like Sunday 12 o'clock kick offs. Left for VP straight after a full breakfast and was back home at 2ish to get on with the rest of the day and of course my record of not having seen Villa lose at mid day starts was preserved😊As for the match it was actually one of our better performances at home despite not winning. The young lad Davis looked quite useful and Jack will be a star next year. We just need the right manager.
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quite strange we were probably the better team twice against Brighton . now they are a Prem team.
Maybe we're better than we give ourselves credit for.
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Jesus Christ - I just saw Bakers red card on Twitter...He never touched him!
Unbefuckinleavable!
Was it a straight red or two yellows?
If it's a straight red we must appeal
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Some questionable refereeing in this league to say the least.
Did Sidwell make more tackles today than he did in his entire career with us?
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I thought we showed a lot of character in the second half. I was very impressed with Davis. I thought he was quick but others do not agree. Perhaps I am too used to Adomah's lack of pace and Davis only looks quick in comparison. That aside he showed hold up ability and has a Withe esque ability to stick his arse into the centre back in aerial duels. He should have won at least one penalty and scored the winning goal. I just pray when they get around to using him they don't stick him on the wing. Both of Hourihane's free kicks brought good saves from the keeper and Angela in the hole seemed to improve him.
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I thought we showed a lot of character in the second half. I was very impressed with Davis. I thought he was quick but others do not agree. Perhaps I am too used to Adomah's lack of pace and Davis only looks quick in comparison. That aside he showed hold up ability and has a Withe esque ability to stick his arse into the centre back in aerial duels. He should have won at least one penalty and scored the winning goal. I just pray when they get around to using him they don't stick him on the wing. Both of Hourihane's free kicks brought good saves from the keeper and Angela in the hole seemed to improve him.
I was impressed with Davis too. He holds the ball up well.
One thing that did annoy me was Bacuna's sulking when Hourihane was on the ball for free kicks. I want Bacuna out of Villa asap.
For what it's worth, I think that may have been Adomah's last game for us
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quite strange we were probably the better team twice against Brighton . now they are a Prem team.
Maybe we're better than we give ourselves credit for.
To be fair to Brighton they've been much better most of the season. They just haven't shown it when we've played them. Saying that of course, they have Steve Sidwell...they're going to struggle next season, but they'll enjoy it, they're massively punching above their weight and I suppose the likes of Bournemouth are something for them to aspire to.
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I thought we showed a lot of character in the second half. I was very impressed with Davis. I thought he was quick but others do not agree. Perhaps I am too used to Adomah's lack of pace and Davis only looks quick in comparison. That aside he showed hold up ability and has a Withe esque ability to stick his arse into the centre back in aerial duels. He should have won at least one penalty and scored the winning goal. I just pray when they get around to using him they don't stick him on the wing. Both of Hourihane's free kicks brought good saves from the keeper and Angela in the hole seemed to improve him.
I was impressed with Davis too. He holds the ball up well.
One thing that did annoy me was Bacuna's sulking when Hourihane was on the ball for free kicks. I want Bacuna out of Villa asap.
For what it's worth, I think that may have been Adomah's last game for us
I think Albert always struggles without Kodjia.
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Very much agree i e. I thought they were going to have to remove the ball surgically from Bacuna's hands for the free kick. He really is a twat. You can hear the cogs turning in his brain as he takes forever to create a position where he can be dispossessed. Slow of body, slow of thought.
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Some questionable refereeing in this league to say the least.
Did Sidwell make more tackles today than he did in his entire career with us?
We have come down to his level, how depressing.
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Very much agree i e. I thought they were going to have to remove the ball surgically from Bacuna's hands for the free kick. He really is a twat. You can hear the cogs turning in his brain as he takes forever to create a position where he can be dispossessed. Slow of body, slow of thought.
I wasn't at VP today so probably not qualified to comment, but at least he's not shirking responsibility.
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Very much agree i e. I thought they were going to have to remove the ball surgically from Bacuna's hands for the free kick. He really is a twat. You can hear the cogs turning in his brain as he takes forever to create a position where he can be dispossessed. Slow of body, slow of thought.
After his tussle with Hourihane, Bacuna looked over to Bruce, who signalled for Conor to take the free kick.
Bacuna then stormed off towards the half way line. It was like watching a young kid having a strop
However, Leo did get his act together to do a bit a decent defensive work soon after.
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Davis was not quick, but held the ball up well with good strength. Turned nicely a few times too.
Lansbury had his best game ever for Villa (other than missing a sitter in the first half).
Adomah was disappointing today.
Brighton were lucky as hell twice against us.
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Actually sounds like we played well against a team that could have won the league? Hope for the future?
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I wish we could play Brighton every week.
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I must say both Newcastle and Brighton looked bang average to me at VP.
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Mr U, that is why finishing so far behind them is so unacceptabls.
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Brentford and Bristol City only sides to comprehensively beat us away and Reading at home. We're solid at the back, need more going forward though.
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Wot - no post-match thread?
Well if they're the best/second best in this league we really should be up there or thereabouts next season. Thought we were the better team especially in the second half and ironically after we went down to ten men. How Lansbury missed that sitter in the first half I still don't know. Their penalty looked soft, but Baker got himself turned and as soon as he laid a hand on him the rest was right up the referee's street. We should have had a stonewall penalty but the shocking ref just wasn't interested. Didn't take long for Elphick to screw up spectacularly after he came on. Grealish made a difference. Good to see young Davis get a run out albeit through lack of other options. Hogan's injury is a worry. And Bacuna can fuck right off after shoving Hourihane over the free kick.
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Actually sounds like we played well against a team that could have won the league? Hope for the future?
Always dangerous to take too much from meaningless end of season games imo. Same with losing last week. It sounds like before the penalty Brighton had hardly had an attack which is very unlike how they've played all season.
Let's see what we're like when the pressure is on first game next season.
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I quite enjoyed the game today. Passing was better and Hourihane and Lansbury both had their best games at Villa Park. We need an upgrade on Nathan Baker - he just has mistakes in him and gives the ball away far too often. Teams just let him have the ball knowing he has no composure.
Very impressed with Davis. Strong and a good target man with his back to goal. One lovely turn and shot in the penalty area and won a penalty that the officials missed. We looked better with him up top.
Marvellous to see Peter McParland and Nigel Sims with the cup at half time - the last survivors of the 57 Final. Fantastic reaction from the crowd.
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Actually sounds like we played well against a team that could have won the league? Hope for the future?
Always dangerous to take too much from meaningless end of season games imo. Same with losing last week. It sounds like before the penalty Brighton had hardly had an attack which is very unlike how they've played all season.
Let's see what we're like when the pressure is on first game next season.
Their reaction to conceding didn't look like it was a meaningless game to them. They were totally gutted :)
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I'm not sure the performance today was all that different to most of the games at home. Defended solidly and didn't really look like conceding but struggled to create real chances. The number of shots will mask that a little but we had a lot of 'free hits' today where you'd expect any keeper at this level to save them, and we restricted them to the same. What really worried me though were the number of times the ball went to Baker and Chester and there was literally no one in our central midfield for them to pass to. Baker can't pass for shit, everyone knows that, so why are we forcing him to attempt 40-50 passes so often? The other major problem was the 5-6 times that our players didn't know what to expect so the pass and run went in opposite directions. That's why I blame this on piss poor training, all too often we look like we don't play together enough. It's why the tempo is so slow as well, everyone is waiting for someone else to show them what to do. Grealish helped a lot because he came on and made decisions and Hourihane in particular started to respond to that.
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Bacuna took two good free kicks 3/4 years ago and is still here on the back of those - like Hutton he runs around a lot doing v little productive, that's not enough.
Again was not impressed with the captaincy skills of Chester today, think he is easily our best centre half but when Hogan went down twice for a period of time he was nowhere to be seen and when Bacuna was doing his spoilt brat bit he was again awol. A good captain is all over both of those situations as well as being in the refs ear all game long, seems Lansbury is the only one who does that
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Actually sounds like we played well against a team that could have won the league? Hope for the future?
Always dangerous to take too much from meaningless end of season games imo. Same with losing last week. It sounds like before the penalty Brighton had hardly had an attack which is very unlike how they've played all season.
Let's see what we're like when the pressure is on first game next season.
Their reaction to conceding didn't look like it was a meaningless game to them. They were totally gutted :)
They were one minute away from winning the league title. In a way I'm glad we scored even if it mean Newcastle winning it as it would've summed things up over last 7 years to see another team lift a title at VP.
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It meant everything to them. Living in Sussex I know a couple that were in the away end today. these and loads more on Facebook are absolutely gutted. Me and the missus in North Upper today were absolutely delighted when Grealish scored. Felt like we'd won the game and it was nice we did applaud the Brighton fans at the end. Pity about the flares they threw upon scoring and when we scored.
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Their player got his shot away which Johnstone saved and fell over as Baker ran into him. Never a penalty and no way red card.
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Very much agree i e. I thought they were going to have to remove the ball surgically from Bacuna's hands for the free kick. He really is a twat. You can hear the cogs turning in his brain as he takes forever to create a position where he can be dispossessed. Slow of body, slow of thought.
After his tussle with Hourihane, Bacuna looked over to Bruce, who signalled for Conor to take the free kick.
Bacuna then stormed off towards the half way line. It was like watching a young kid having a strop
However, Leo did get his act together to do a bit a decent defensive work soon after.
Stroppy little twat went on strike when he couldn't take the second free kick. The sooner he leaves, the better.
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Yes that free kick malarkey was funny. The way Bacuna grabbed the ball you would have thought it was a penalty. I think he wanted to score a spectacular goal and seal his move to a Champions League club.
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The penalty decision was soft and frustrating in the sense that the ref had denied us a stonewall one a few minutes earlier, also I thought the last man being an automatic red card was abolished at the begining of this season?
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I agree, I thought penalties were seen as sufficient punishment so it was a yellow not a red.
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I thought Bree played very well. Can see him being the first choice right back before too long.