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Title: They're going up/They're going down
Post by: Ads on April 11, 2017, 07:19:30 AM
We know we've got at least one trip to Sheffield next season with Sheffield United getting promoted, but where's your money on the others?

Who do you want to come up from the 3rd division and who do you think will come up?

Equally, Newcastle and Brighton seemed nailed on to go up automatically and none of the other top 4 remotely impressive it seems difficult to pick a Play Off winning candidate, but one of Huddersfield, Leeds, Reading, Sheffield Wednesday, Derby, or Fulham is going to be making a (brief) Premier League appearance, but which one?

Finally, Sunderland are doing their best Aston Villa 2015/16 impression and are finally getting flushed, but who else is in their way down?
Title: Re: They're going up/They're going down
Post by: mr underhill on April 11, 2017, 07:21:44 AM
Middlesboro and Hull to join Blunderland. Fulham to go up with Newcastle and Brighton. I don't have a clue about those joining the Chumps.
Title: Re: They're going up/They're going down
Post by: Des Little on April 11, 2017, 07:29:56 AM
Fuck our luck getting three of the worst road trips possible in Boro, Hull and Sunderland. No doubt at least two of them will be on a Tuesday night so we can enjoy more of those M1 night road closures.
Title: Re: They're going up/They're going down
Post by: Scratchins on April 11, 2017, 07:42:41 AM
Much as I dislike Palace & Fat Sam I'm glad we haven't got a trip to Croydon next season.
Title: Re: They're going up/They're going down
Post by: QuintonVilla on April 11, 2017, 08:09:40 AM
I also think it will be Sunderland, Boro' and Hull coming down and as someone has said they're three long trips and not brilliant away days.

Brighton and Newcastle will obviously go up. I want Huddersfield to join them, it will be good to see someone new up there and I think they'd have a good go. Reading and Leeds to name two would get battered every week. Rotherham, Wigan and Blackburn going down which is a shame as they're three easy trips and the last two have big allocations.

Bolton will join Sheffield Utd in coming up, two big away allocations. I want Millwall to come up through the play offs but I think it will be our old nemesis Bradford.
Title: Re: They're going up/They're going down
Post by: Ad@m on April 11, 2017, 08:30:16 AM
I think Hull will save themselves with Swansea coming down instead (another shite away trip).

As for coming up, having thought Burton Albion's Pirelli would be the smallest ground we'd play in a league match for a long, long time we could have a trip to the mighty Fleetwood Town's Highbury Stadium next year, with a total capacity of just over 5,000 - ie less than some of the away allocations we've sold out this year!!!!
Title: Re: They're going up/They're going down
Post by: Legion on April 11, 2017, 08:30:42 AM
Of the current crop, I'd like to see Huddersfield go up with Brighton and Newcastle. Sunderland, Hull City and Middlesbrough to play us next season along with Sheffield United, Bolton Wanderers and Fleetwood Town. Goodbye to Rotherham United, Wigan Athletic and SHA.
Title: Re: They're going up/They're going down
Post by: Mister E on April 11, 2017, 08:40:10 AM
Fuck our luck getting three of the worst road trips possible in Boro, Hull and Sunderland. No doubt at least two of them will be on a Tuesday night so we can enjoy more of those M1 night road closures.
Des, these are three great away trips! ... if you live in N Yorks 😊
Title: Re: They're going up/They're going down
Post by: Dave on April 11, 2017, 08:57:59 AM
I'm not sure why Hull seem to be the people's choice, given they're not in the bottom three, have the easiest run-in (five of their last six are Sunderland, Watford, Southampton, Stoke and Palace) and seem to be winning football matches a bit more than most of the other teams around them.
Title: Re: They're going up/They're going down
Post by: QuintonVilla on April 11, 2017, 09:03:19 AM
I'm not sure why Hull seem to be the people's choice, given they're not in the bottom three, have the easiest run-in (five of their last six are Sunderland, Watford, Southampton, Stoke and Palace) and seem to be winning football matches a bit more than most of the other teams around them.
Mine is just based on a gut feeling that Swansea will get out of it.
Title: Re: They're going up/They're going down
Post by: Drummond on April 11, 2017, 09:15:32 AM
I hope it's Hull. Far easier for me to get to.

Barcodes and Brighton going up would suit too, for virtually everyone! As for the other, I think Reading as that's just an awkward place.

Sheffield United going up is great news, it's less than a mile from my house, with some good pubs en-route!
Title: Re: They're going up/They're going down
Post by: DeKuip on April 11, 2017, 09:45:47 AM
As we're losing the two best away days in Brighton & Newcastle then I hope we don't lose a third in either Leeds, Wednesday or Fulham. Hopefully Reading will go up, but I doubt it.
I think it it will be Swansea who come down with Sunderland & Boro and Bradford who come up with Sheffield Utd & Bolton... although I'd love to see West Ham drop and Scunny come up.
Title: Re: They're going up/They're going down
Post by: chrisw1 on April 11, 2017, 09:49:03 AM
I almost want Leeds to go up just so I don't have to listen to Gary Monks one eyed bitter, nasty post match interviews next year.  Fucking hell I really hate that ******.
Title: Re: They're going up/They're going down
Post by: darren woolley on April 11, 2017, 10:33:44 AM
I think Boro and Swansea will join Sunderland in getting relegated Newcastle, Brighton and Leeds to go up and I would like Fleetwood to join Bolton and
Sheff Utd in getting promoted.
Title: Re: They're going up/They're going down
Post by: eamonn on April 11, 2017, 11:48:40 AM
Hull? No chance, they have the best manager in the league.
Title: Re: They're going up/They're going down
Post by: Diablo on April 11, 2017, 01:05:10 PM
I hope Millwall go up

(said no one ever).

Pleased Sheffield United are going up I'm happy for Bolton to go up too (as I've got a bit of a soft spot for Dean Holdsworth)

Title: Re: They're going up/They're going down
Post by: Hookeysmith on April 11, 2017, 01:13:59 PM
Sunderland probably will have the same issues as we did this year in as much as will need to rid the squad of a lot of shite and they will lose old man Defoe - so that will have a negative impact to them (plus they have D.Moyes which is worse)

Boro and Hull or Swansea will regroup so I do not think next season for us is as nailed on as some think it is

Our main asset will be decent players and at least some experience now of this shite league
Title: Re: They're going up/They're going down
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on April 11, 2017, 01:20:56 PM
I don't want sodding Millwall coming up. Thankfully Barnsley knocked them out in the playoffs last year. Southend coming up might be nice, a day at the seaside  :)

None of the teams struggling in the Prem are very exciting. Haven't been to Boro or West Ham's new ground, although it seems highly unlikely that Wham will go down now.

Title: Re: They're going up/They're going down
Post by: andyaston on April 11, 2017, 01:26:17 PM
I also think it will be Sunderland, Boro' and Hull coming down and as someone has said they're three long trips and not brilliant away days.

Brighton and Newcastle will obviously go up. I want Huddersfield to join them, it will be good to see someone new up there and I think they'd have a good go. Reading and Leeds to name two would get battered every week. Rotherham, Wigan and Blackburn going down which is a shame as they're three easy trips and the last two have big allocations.

Bolton will join Sheffield Utd in coming up, two big away allocations. I want Millwall to come up through the play offs but I think it will be our old nemesis Bradford.
Why would you want Millwall to come up?

They are the most horrible football club in the country, a bunch of violent racists who when I was a kid caused havoc at Aston Station beating up men, women and kids in the first game of 1988/89 season. Keep them down.
Title: Re: They're going up/They're going down
Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 11, 2017, 01:41:17 PM
Sunderland, Boro, Swansea.
Newcastle, Brighton, Leeds
Sheff U, Bolton, Fleetwood.

Meaning we have the slightly bizarre thing of playing Burton and Fleetwood in the league next season.
Title: Re: They're going up/They're going down
Post by: cdbearsfan on April 11, 2017, 01:45:51 PM
It's a pain in the arse getting away tickets so I hope Blackburn and (somehow) Wigan stay up, Bolton come up and Preston, Reading and Barnsley stay down as they give us large allocations.

I'll probably go to Sunderland and Middlesbrough too, hopefully demand won't be so big as they're far away.
Title: Re: They're going up/They're going down
Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 11, 2017, 01:48:58 PM
You just know our trips to Boro and Sunderland will be night games. Probably around Xmas/NY time as well.
Title: Re: They're going up/They're going down
Post by: Dave on April 11, 2017, 01:49:01 PM
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Newcastle, Reading, Leeds

That'll need to be the mother of all bottle jobs from Brighton - 13 points clear of the other two with five matches left.

But then it is Brighton, so not impossible I guess.
Title: Re: They're going up/They're going down
Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 11, 2017, 01:51:10 PM
That should of course be Brighton. Jeeze, i'm fecking up my posts left, right and centre!
Title: Re: They're going up/They're going down
Post by: mr underhill on April 11, 2017, 01:57:04 PM
This is the best chance Leeds will ever have imo of a return to the PL - if they blow it, I don't expect them to be a real threat next season.
Title: Re: They're going up/They're going down
Post by: QuintonVilla on April 11, 2017, 02:11:52 PM
I also think it will be Sunderland, Boro' and Hull coming down and as someone has said they're three long trips and not brilliant away days.

Brighton and Newcastle will obviously go up. I want Huddersfield to join them, it will be good to see someone new up there and I think they'd have a good go. Reading and Leeds to name two would get battered every week. Rotherham, Wigan and Blackburn going down which is a shame as they're three easy trips and the last two have big allocations.

Bolton will join Sheffield Utd in coming up, two big away allocations. I want Millwall to come up through the play offs but I think it will be our old nemesis Bradford.
Why would you want Millwall to come up?

They are the most horrible football club in the country, a bunch of violent racists who when I was a kid caused havoc at Aston Station beating up men, women and kids in the first game of 1988/89 season. Keep them down.
Millwall would be the most interesting fixture. People saying they want Fleetwood to come up but we'd get about 500 tickets.
Title: Re: They're going up/They're going down
Post by: UK Redsox on April 11, 2017, 02:24:03 PM
Fleetwood or Scunthorpe would be the most interesting.

Other than that, the new new teams that Villa will be playing are all a bit meh
Title: Re: They're going up/They're going down
Post by: shipscat on April 11, 2017, 03:24:15 PM
I think Swansea,Villaboro and Sunderland are joining us.Allied to Bolton,Scunthorpe and Sheff Utd.

I also think Wednesday will win the play offs.Which I'd be rather glad with.I think they'll be the toughest challenger next season.They've had a really terrible run of key injuries this year,plus they're backed better financially than any of the others in the top 6.Similar to Brighton last season.

I can see Huddersfield,Leeds and Fulham all losing key elements of their squads/Management team over the summer months.I also feel Boro will be the one's to match next year.

Title: Re: They're going up/They're going down
Post by: Mister E on April 11, 2017, 03:52:05 PM
This is the best chance Leeds will ever have imo of a return to the PL - if they blow it, I don't expect them to be a real threat next season.
Not sure I can face Leeds being in the Prem, being surrounded by the feckers up here.
Title: Re: They're going up/They're going down
Post by: cheltenhamlion on April 11, 2017, 05:45:45 PM
Boro and Sunderland are fucked. Swansea will go as well, starting their Wigan like descent from whence they came. Leeds or Sheffield Wed will win the play offs. Sheffield Utd will be joined by Bolton and Millwall. Rotherham, Wigan and Blackburn will drop.
Title: Re: They're going up/They're going down
Post by: Ads on April 11, 2017, 05:48:11 PM
Anybody who wants Millwall to.come up cannot have spent an hour milling about on a school playground outside the Den one freezing January Friday night.

Shower of twats that lot.
Title: Re: They're going up/They're going down
Post by: Tayls_7 on April 11, 2017, 05:50:42 PM
Boro and Sunderland are fucked. Swansea will go as well, starting their Wigan like descent from whence they came. Leeds or Sheffield Wed will win the play offs. Sheffield Utd will be joined by Bolton and Millwall. Rotherham, Wigan and Blackburn will drop.

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Title: Re: They're going up/They're going down
Post by: wittonwarrior on April 11, 2017, 06:01:29 PM
Wanting Millwall to come up? Are you possessed.  Clearly never went there in the 70's.  I hope they rot in hell.

Give me Bolton please nice easy one for someone who lives in the NW.
Title: Re: They're going up/They're going down
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on April 11, 2017, 06:08:31 PM
Wanting Millwall to come up? Are you possessed.  Clearly never went there in the 70's.  I hope they rot in hell.

Give me Bolton please nice easy one for someone who lives in the NW.

Shame to be losing Wigan and Blackburn for us oop north
Title: Re: They're going up/They're going down
Post by: cheltenhamlion on April 11, 2017, 06:48:22 PM
I might add, I don't want the South London peasants promoted. I just predict they will be. Quinton Villa is clearly a loon.
Title: Re: They're going up/They're going down
Post by: AV82EC on April 11, 2017, 07:21:51 PM
If Hull drop and Reading go up and Sheffield United and Bradford come up is this going to be the most Yorkshire league ever?

That would be Leeds, Bradford, Sheffield U and W, Huddersfield, Barnsley, Hull though just realised we will lose Rotherham. That's one third of the league near enough. Though Plenty of real ale Rail trips for us Manc based Villans.
Title: Re: They're going up/They're going down
Post by: Ads on April 11, 2017, 07:31:41 PM
They may have got half way through the M62's roadworks by the time Rotherham get promotion back up.
Title: Re: They're going up/They're going down
Post by: SoccerHQ on April 11, 2017, 08:34:37 PM
Sheffield United is one of my favourite away days in football (been there 3 times with Walsall).

Reminds me a lot of Wolves...ground in easy walking distance from the city centre, plenty of good pubs around and another ground where we'll get a big allocation as you get up and lower tier.

Bolton will come up aswell. Have a feeling Bradford will come up from the play offs so that would be a match with a bit of an edge to it.

Would quite like Stoke to come down as missed that away game this season. Or West Ham for the hilarity factor.
Title: Re: They're going up/They're going down
Post by: peter w on April 12, 2017, 06:09:59 AM
Newcastle
Brighton
Sheff W

Rotherham
Wigan
Blackburn

Sheff U
Bolton
Bradford
Title: Re: They're going up/They're going down
Post by: peter w on April 12, 2017, 06:10:39 AM
Oh and that division  (hand in circular motion) erm

Sunderland
Boro
Hull
Title: Re: They're going up/They're going down
Post by: AV82EC on April 12, 2017, 07:25:19 AM
They may have got half way through the M62's roadworks by the time Rotherham get promotion back up.

If Highways England and the morons at the DoT have got anything to do with it, I doubt it.
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