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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: chrisw1 on March 15, 2017, 01:59:58 PM

Title: Injuries
Post by: chrisw1 on March 15, 2017, 01:59:58 PM
Do we have an injuries thread and if not is it a good idea to have one?  Somewhere to keep up to date on the progress of players currently out.

In particular, do we have any more news on Lansbury, Green, Hogan & Grealish?  Hopefully at least Jack will be back for Wigan?
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: godzvilla on March 15, 2017, 02:39:57 PM
Apparently Andre Green will be fit for selection ( for Wigan ) , my question re Jack is .....would he get in the team, even if fit?..............Godzvilla!
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: chrisw1 on March 15, 2017, 08:35:27 PM
Well it would be nice to have the option.
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: mattjpa on March 16, 2017, 09:35:30 AM
Apparently Andre Green will be fit for selection ( for Wigan ) , my question re Jack is .....would he get in the team, even if fit?..............Godzvilla!

Jack is a game changer. If we ever want to aspire to be better than a bunch of cloggers grinding out 1-0's every week we need to aspire to being good enough to cover the short comings of the most talented players
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: Drummond on March 16, 2017, 09:59:25 AM
Apparently Andre Green will be fit for selection ( for Wigan ) , my question re Jack is .....would he get in the team, even if fit?..............Godzvilla!

Jack is a game changer. If we ever want to aspire to be better than a bunch of cloggers grinding out 1-0's every week we need to aspire to being good enough to cover the short comings of the most talented players

How many games has he changed?
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: in exile on March 16, 2017, 09:59:55 AM
Jack is a game changer. If we ever want to aspire to be better than a bunch of cloggers grinding out 1-0's every week we need to aspire to being good enough to cover the short comings of the most talented players

We won 2-0 last week
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: Brend'Watkins on March 16, 2017, 11:18:15 AM
Apparently Andre Green will be fit for selection ( for Wigan ) , my question re Jack is .....would he get in the team, even if fit?..............Godzvilla!

Jack is a game changer. If we ever want to aspire to be better than a bunch of cloggers grinding out 1-0's every week we need to aspire to being good enough to cover the short comings of the most talented players

How many games has he changed?

Wigan at home springs to mind as the most recent. 

I'm very disappointed with his contribution overall this season but he has a great ability which we need to get him showing again somehow.
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: brontebilly on March 16, 2017, 01:24:01 PM
Apparently Andre Green will be fit for selection ( for Wigan ) , my question re Jack is .....would he get in the team, even if fit?..............Godzvilla!

Jack is a game changer. If we ever want to aspire to be better than a bunch of cloggers grinding out 1-0's every week we need to aspire to being good enough to cover the short comings of the most talented players

How many games has he changed?

Only the one I can think of this season and none at all last season

Maybe the problem is the "talented players" aren't good enough. The general perception at the start of the season was that Grealish, Ayew, McCormack, Kodjia would tear this division apart and we would be scoring for fun.

Someone like Adamoah is an average player but he has delivered more than the first three combined.
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: old man villa fan on March 16, 2017, 02:03:19 PM
The problem for players that pull the strings is having players on the end of the string that react.
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: Drummond on March 16, 2017, 02:07:31 PM
Apparently Andre Green will be fit for selection ( for Wigan ) , my question re Jack is .....would he get in the team, even if fit?..............Godzvilla!

Jack is a game changer. If we ever want to aspire to be better than a bunch of cloggers grinding out 1-0's every week we need to aspire to being good enough to cover the short comings of the most talented players

How many games has he changed?

Wigan at home springs to mind as the most recent. 

I'm very disappointed with his contribution overall this season but he has a great ability which we need to get him showing again somehow.

That's the thing for me. I love his body swerves, how he can hang on to the ball, his passing etc. But he doesn't show it enough. I think Liverpool in the Semi-Final and a half against the B-Lose as well.

He just isn't (yet) the game-changer talked about. Though he could get there in time as he's only young and still learning.
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: chrisw1 on March 31, 2017, 12:37:12 PM
So Gabby, RHM & Green back in training this week - but too early for all of them.

Baker & Grealish fit and back in the squad

Obviously Lansbury & Hogan played against Wigan so hopefully will be back and firing on all cylinders.
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on March 31, 2017, 12:45:14 PM
And Hogan should be sharper...I thought it was a bit of a gamble putting him on the bench v Wigan, but it worked....scored a cracker and will be two weeks fitter.
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: Nelson Lodge on July 31, 2017, 11:55:46 AM
In addition to Grealsih being out for an estimated 2 to 3 months where are we with injuries ?

Johnstone missed the games in Germany and Saturday.
De Laet still getting fit but a broken bone in wrist or hand (?)
Richards, as usual.
Elphick - is he injured which could be why not transferred or featured in pre season?
Jedinak in recovery, but time estimate to be match fit?
Adomah went off injured in first pre season game and not seen since.
RHM got injured in the U23 game last Friday.

So that is 8 possibly all injured with varying degrees of severity. If we ever get down to Dr Xia's target of 20 seniors and 5 U23 for a first team squad then it will be interesting at the present rate of attrition to see how they cope.
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: Richard on July 31, 2017, 11:59:21 AM
And Kodjia most importantly !
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: SoccerHQ on July 31, 2017, 12:52:27 PM
Kodjia is weeks away so should be back for the September games.
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: aj2k77 on July 31, 2017, 01:14:19 PM
We haven't even started the season and we are 9 down. It's happening year after year.
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: Clampy on July 31, 2017, 01:23:47 PM
Some of the injuries have been unfortunate. You would never have thought Grealish would pick up that kind of injury and De Laet and Kodjia's are long term ones which we always knew would stretch into this season.
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: Matt Collins on August 01, 2017, 06:41:36 PM
News today is that Grealish is probably out for the rest of the year

Kodjia out for 4-6 games

This is darkening my mood

Adomah and Johnstone should be fit but I imagine adomah not fit to start

No mention of Elmo so I infer injury wasn't serious
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: paul_e on August 01, 2017, 06:57:32 PM
In addition to Grealsih being out for an estimated 2 to 3 months where are we with injuries ?

Johnstone missed the games in Germany and Saturday.
De Laet still getting fit but a broken bone in wrist or hand (?)
Richards, as usual.
Elphick - is he injured which could be why not transferred or featured in pre season?
Jedinak in recovery, but time estimate to be match fit?
Adomah went off injured in first pre season game and not seen since.
RHM got injured in the U23 game last Friday.

So that is 8 possibly all injured with varying degrees of severity. If we ever get down to Dr Xia's target of 20 seniors and 5 U23 for a first team squad then it will be interesting at the present rate of attrition to see how they cope.

Can cross the last one off the list, RHM is fine and scored the only goal in a friendly against Forest this afternoon.
Johnstone will be fit for the weekend.
Jedinak should be back in a couple of weeks.
Adomah Will be back for next week if not fit for Saturday.
Elphick and Richards are no loss because neither of them would be in the 18 anyway.

So De Laet out for a while as most of us expected anyway, should probably start getting involved in September/October.
Kodjia Should be back around the squad by the end of the month.
Grealish is obviously the big one, hopefully he'll be back by around Christmas but we should look at getting in an option now, even on a short loan deal until Jan.
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 01, 2017, 09:08:07 PM
There can't be any other club that gets as many downright freak injuries and occurrences as us. We get broken legs in training, top scorers collapsing with nobody near them, kidney damage, even Stan Petrov's illness was as good as unique .
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: Damo70 on August 02, 2017, 12:58:47 PM
In our last promotion season am I right in saying we had Allan Evans, Tony Daley and Garry Thompson all injured from pre season to December/January? Plus Steve Hunt had to quit playing through injury a few games into the season. Around the same time Andy Blair had to call it a day. I don't think Alan McInally was available for the first couple of months of the season either. Also, I think Neale Cooper was still struggling from his bad injury the previous season. That takes some beating.
Title: Re: Injuries
Post by: Diablo on August 03, 2017, 10:46:59 AM
FFS! We may well be cursed. Wasn't Bruce supposed to be one of those "lucky" managers?
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