Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Deano's Mullet on March 13, 2017, 10:37:06 PM
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Roger Taylor the drummer is a fan and I've read accounts so is Simon Le Bon. Both the Taylor's wore Villa shirts during their concert at Villa Park in the early 80s so i am guessing John Taylor likes us too? I knew the band was formed in Brum but had no idea they were Villa fans.
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Le Bon is a Brummie red.
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Le Bon is a Brummie red.
I don't think Le Bon is a Brummie any way, he only went to university there. born in London i think.
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Hertfordshire.
Pretty sure only Roger is Villa. And he actually goes to games sometimes.
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You can blame the Birmingham Mail for saying Le Bon is Villa
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I'm not sure I want us too closely associated with the band that made the worst cover version of all time.
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Roger and John Taylor were/are Villa fans.
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What was the cover version LeeB? Struggling to think.
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Roger and Jon (?) were interviewed before the FA Cup final debacle; someone posted the link on here.
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Duran Duran were just shouty shit
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I used to live by Roger Taylor.
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Roger Taylor the drummer is a fan and I've read accounts so is Simon Le Bon. Both the Taylor's wore Villa shirts during their concert at Villa Park in the early 80s so i am guessing John Taylor likes us too? I knew the band was formed in Brum but had no idea they were Villa fans.
Stephen "Tin Tin " Duffy wrote Holte End Hotel. About 15 years after leaving Duran Duran
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What was the cover version LeeB? Struggling to think.
My guess would be White Lines?
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Duran Duran were just shouty shit
This x 10.
How the got to be as successful as they did is one of life's great mysteries.
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Good looks and attitude make for great salesmen.
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Good looks and attitude make for great salesmen.
Alphaville were a far better band with some great songs but Hartwig Schierbaum (aka Marian Gold) didn't have the looks
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Good looks and attitude make for great salesmen.
Alphaville were a far better band with some great songs but Hartwig Schierbaum (aka Marian Gold) didn't have the looks
They were Big in Japan, I hear.
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What was the cover version LeeB? Struggling to think.
My guess would be White Lines?
Public Enemy's 911 is a Joke.
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Good looks and attitude make for great salesmen.
Alphaville were a far better band with some great songs but Hartwig Schierbaum (aka Marian Gold) didn't have the looks
They were Big in Japan, I hear.
Still one of my favourite bands. Unfortunately their new single is terrible
I even own these....
https://www.discogs.com/Alphaville-Dreamscapes/release/1039872
https://www.discogs.com/Alphaville-Dreamscapes9/master/1146408
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Duran Duran were just shouty shit
This x 10.
How the got to be as successful as they did is one of life's great mysteries.
They were hungry like the wolf.
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Duran Duran were just shouty shit
Yep. And The Power Station were even worse
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Roger and Jon (?) were interviewed before the FA Cup final debacle; someone posted the link on here.
Depressingly, just referring to the "the FA Cup Final debacle" doesn't necessarily reduce it down to one specific game. I'm guessing though it was Debacle Mk II.
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I remember reading that Roger Taylor's childhood dream was to Villa keeper.
Also agree about Alphaville - Afternoons In Utopia is one of my favourite albums.
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Is there something I should know ?
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Roger and Jon (?) were interviewed before the FA Cup final debacle; someone posted the link on here.
Depressingly, just referring to the "the FA Cup Final debacle" doesn't necessarily reduce it down to one specific game. I'm guessing though it was Debacle Mk II.
1891-92 still particularly rankles with me.
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I remember reading that Roger Taylor's childhood dream was to Villa keeper.
He just didn't have... The Reflex.
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I remember reading that Roger Taylor's childhood dream was to Villa keeper.
He just didn't have... The Reflex.
He was shit in goal - couldn't Save a Prayer
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Le Bon is a Brummie red.
Goody
Another reason to hate the twat
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I was a steward at that VP concert - the height f their teeny fame - quite a terrifying experience
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I was a steward at that VP concert - the height f their teeny fame - quite a terrifying experience
What had 5000 legs and no pubic hair.......?
The front row....
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I remember reading that Roger Taylor's childhood dream was to Villa keeper.
He just didn't have... The Reflex.
He was shit in goal - couldn't Save a Prayer
The rest of the team were Wild Boys.
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Le Bon is a Brummie red.
Goody
Another reason to hate the twat
Like !
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DD were one of the best bands ever. Villa and them are actually quite a lot alike as we often 'come undone'.
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I'm very proud to say that I cant add any puns to this
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Good looks and attitude make for great salesmen.
Alphaville were a far better band with some great songs but Hartwig Schierbaum (aka Marian Gold) didn't have the looks
I remember reading that Roger Taylor's childhood dream was to Villa keeper.
Also agree about Alphaville - Afternoons In Utopia is one of my favourite albums.
Personal choice and all that, but weren't Alphaville doing bland electronica five years after better bands? Anyway, Forever Young is way better than Afternoons in Utopia.
I'll go my own way now before this thread comes undone, although this is much more fun than talking about football. Go watch the video of The Chauffeur and tell me Duran Duran never did anything decent.
PS: As mentioned, Le Bon is from Bushey so right in the middle of MahnYoos catchment area, innit.
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This thread takes me back...I vaguely remember seeing DD's first (?) tv performance on a Midlands Toyah Wilcox show, though I could have just made all of that up :)
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(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/db/04/c2/db04c208b1fce1a0c722691872611792.jpg)
Decent bloke, fine musician and member of world conquering band. Fair play to the lad.
(http://i4.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/incoming/article638581.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/C_71_article_1468490_image_list_image_list_item_0_image.jpg)
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This thread takes me back...I vaguely remember seeing DD's first (?) tv performance on a Midlands Toyah Wilcox show, though I could have just made all of that up :)
Can't remember show, but, song was 'Planet Earth'
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My first ever kit, still don't like DD though.
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As a Birmingham band I think they are great. I would support any Brummie band as they have to work 10 times harder to get noticed. I used to chat with John (Nigel) in the Rum Runner quite a bit and he is a nice chap. He was always in there with a blonde page 3 bird from Brum, Janine something I think and she was well fit. Simon was always a cocky c*nt when he was in there and loved himself. I was in Lucca a couple of years back and noticed they were playing in one of the squares. We went to see them and thought they were great, very entertaining and Le Bon had gained some humility and a sense of humour. His voice had also improved, unless of course he was autotuned.
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He was working on a deal with delph
The union of the snake
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While we are on the the subject of the New Romantic music era, this from art pop combo Japan might well sum up the reign of Randy Lerner.
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I've always liked them. Stems from them giving my old man a pile of merchandise when his shop was next door to the Rum Runner. I'm easily bought, me.
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This thread takes me back...I vaguely remember seeing DD's first (?) tv performance on a Midlands Toyah Wilcox show, though I could have just made all of that up :)
Can't remember show, but, song was 'Planet Earth'
Seems you have a Careless Memory.
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I'm very proud to say that I cant add any puns to this
Shame because you are Notorious for them.
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I was at the VP gig in the directors box - some of the Villa players were in there if I remember right. Support was from the late Robert Palmer.
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I was at the VP gig in the directors box - some of the Villa players were in there if I remember right. Support was from the late Robert Palmer.
Bet the Duranies were furious he kept them waiting for their boys.
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Yeah, they were wild.
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John Taylor's autobiography is worth reading, but I don't recall him mentioning the Villa. They came from Hollywood, ie the one near SOlihull on the southern border down by the Maypole. He and Nick Rhodes met when Taylor was 14 and Rhodes 13 I think, recruited the drummer from a brummy band and the lead guitarist from the north east. Le Bon was definitely a Birmingham University student, like Spencer Davis. They did not seem to have any real interest in football.
A great band, I wish I had not been so fixed on reggae in 1981. But I was also watching something else happening in Aston in 1980-82 and its still a great period. For music and Birmingham football. As for talent the Chic Maestro whose name escapes me loved working with the Durans. Says it all. Apart from Spandau Ballet, no other New ROmantic band of the period still stands up all these years later.
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Says it all. Apart from Spandau Ballet, no other New ROmantic band of the period still stands up all these years later.
Really?
Not Depeche Mode, OMD, Japan, Soft Cell, Heaven 17, Human League...I could go on.
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I was at the VP gig in the directors box - some of the Villa players were in there if I remember right. Support was from the late Robert Palmer.
I work at a place in Scarborough where Robert Palmer's dad, Les, worked for years. There is a commemorative plaque in his honour.
DD were ok in their day.
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Says it all. Apart from Spandau Ballet, no other New ROmantic band of the period still stands up all these years later.
Really?
Not Depeche Mode, OMD, Japan, Soft Cell, Heaven 17, Human League...I could go on.
Yes there are a few aren't there.
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Says it all. Apart from Spandau Ballet, no other New ROmantic band of the period still stands up all these years later.
Really?
Not Depeche Mode, OMD, Japan, Soft Cell, Heaven 17, Human League...I could go on.
A tongue-in-cheek comment on Depeche Mode from the second (or third; sometimes I have Blondie ahead of them) greatest band of all time
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Says it all. Apart from Spandau Ballet, no other New ROmantic band of the period still stands up all these years later.
Really?
Not Depeche Mode, OMD, Japan, Soft Cell, Heaven 17, Human League...I could go on.
simple as ABC or even another brummie Tin Tin, but that was more for the clubbers I spose.
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Says it all. Apart from Spandau Ballet, no other New ROmantic band of the period still stands up all these years later.
Really?
Not Depeche Mode, OMD, Japan, Soft Cell, Heaven 17, Human League...I could go on.
We were debating on Facebook the other day whether Soft Cell count as "New Romantics." The majority view was that they didn't.
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Says it all. Apart from Spandau Ballet, no other New ROmantic band of the period still stands up all these years later.
Really?
Not Depeche Mode, OMD, Japan, Soft Cell, Heaven 17, Human League...I could go on.
I wouldn't class new Romantic as a genre of music, it was just a look of the time for a short period which even Bowie aspired to in his Scary Monsters album. if you were to class a band as 'New Romantic' then Visage would fit the bill. One hit single, loads of make up and outfits that no other band dared at the time. What you have in DCP's list is bands who earlier on in their success coiffured their hair, wore a scarf or neckerchief and who played pop music. Durun Durun were the same, pop music improved by Nile Rogers' talented influence to create a catchy tune and destroyed by Le Bon's voice which was and still is reminiscent of a baby seal being clubbed to death when attempting to reach the high notes.
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Nile Rodgers loved working with them, the best british band he worked with he once said, but he came along late when they were already hits. Every record in the first two years was a hit and the first one, girls on film I think, went to Number One in AUstralia.
that gave them the money for the videos, which personally I think are exercises in spending money without any artistic control, but with WHam made them enormous on MTV. Again, before Nile Rogers I think.
Nile is a genius, but mainly for picking talent to work with.And he does not always get it right. A few obvious blunders, but Duran Duran was not one of them. And they remain the last Brummy band to make it big though I am told there is a band based in Sutton that are biggish. But they were on the Premier show last week featuring the Baggies, so I have forgotten their name.
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Says it all. Apart from Spandau Ballet, no other New ROmantic band of the period still stands up all these years later.
Really?
Not Depeche Mode, OMD, Japan, Soft Cell, Heaven 17, Human League...I could go on.
I wouldn't class new Romantic as a genre of music, it was just a look of the time for a short period which even Bowie aspired to in his Scary Monsters album. if you were to class a band as 'New Romantic' then Visage would fit the bill. One hit single, loads of make up and outfits that no other band dared at the time. What you have in DCP's list is bands who earlier on in their success coiffured their hair, wore a scarf or neckerchief and who played pop music. Durun Durun were the same, pop music improved by Nile Rogers' talented influence to create a catchy tune and destroyed by Le Bon's voice which was and still is reminiscent of a baby seal being clubbed to death when attempting to reach the high notes.
Ahead of his time Marc Bolan became what would be termed New Romantic before his death as he tried to change his image as his popularity waned.
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I was never really a fan of Duran Duran back in the day. Didn't really get the new romantic thing. But I appreciate their music more these days. It seems to have stood the test of time. I'll catch myself nodding along if a Duran song comes on in the pub or a shop.
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We were debating on Facebook the other day whether Soft Cell count as "New Romantics." The majority view was that they didn't.
I use it as a catch-all term for most of the early 80's electronic music bands, in truth there was a lot of diversity but in my mind if they were popular amongst the Rum Runner crowd then they were New Romantics!
Non-Stop Erotic Cabaret remains one of my top 30 albums of all time by the way, it's a work of genius.
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Non-Stop Erotic Cabaret remains one of my top 30 albums of all time by the way, it's a work of genius.
True and as good as it is, it doesn't come close to the Tainted Love/Where Did Our Love Go 12" mix. Dave Ball, as you say, is a genius.
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It's a great album from first to last. There are a few top albums from that period and genre: Dare; Lexicon of Love; Journeys To Glory. I still reckon there hasn't been a truly original and all-encompassing youth movement in this country since. Everything that's come after, good or bad, seems either niche, weekend-only or a re-hash rather than the front page headlines, shock and terror, art/politics/style/music DIY mash-up of previous youth cultures.
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Whereas I actually quite like a few Spandau Ballet songs I cannot stand anything Duran Duran did, can't get past Le Bon's horrible weedy voice.
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Met Le Bon at a fashion show with his wife. His arrogance was one of the ugliest things I have encountered.
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I quite like Duran Duran, but this remains very very funny.
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Non-Stop Erotic Cabaret remains one of my top 30 albums of all time by the way, it's a work of genius.
True and as good as it is, it doesn't come close to the Tainted Love/Where Did Our Love Go 12" mix. Dave Ball, as you say, is a genius.
The other advantage that Soft Cell had was that Marc Almond has one hell of a voice
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I loved the fist power station album the Taylor's did with Robert Palmer
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Roger Taylor the drummer is a fan and I've read accounts so is Simon Le Bon. Both the Taylor's wore Villa shirts during their concert at Villa Park in the early 80s so i am guessing John Taylor likes us too? I knew the band was formed in Brum but had no idea they were Villa fans.
There was a programme cover with John Taylor playing Guitar from the Villa park Gig and a huge smile on his face.
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Non-Stop Erotic Cabaret remains one of my top 30 albums of all time by the way, it's a work of genius.
True and as good as it is, it doesn't come close to the Tainted Love/Where Did Our Love Go 12" mix. Dave Ball, as you say, is a genius.
The other advantage that Soft Cell had was that Marc Almond has one hell of a voice
You're right. It's easy to forget he does know how to knock out a song.
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He sounded better after he'd had his stomach pumped.
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He sounded better after he'd had his stomach pumped.
I wouldn't know.
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That story has been told so many times about so many people I suppose one of them might almost be true.
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Amazing in many ways how these urban legends exist. I bet most of us of a certain age heard that story between say 1980 and 1986. Pre-internet days obviously so how come it was told in nearly every school playground around the country?
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It is weird how things spread pre internet, everybody who told the story would think they were in on some huge secret and first to know! Sometimes it would be Boy George.
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It was definitely true because it was once referred to in a Mary Whitehouse Experience sketch.
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At their time they were pretty good. I blame it on Rio.
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I always liked 'Save a prayer'.
Lovely to know they are Villa fans. :)
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Non-Stop Erotic Cabaret remains one of my top 30 albums of all time by the way, it's a work of genius.
True and as good as it is, it doesn't come close to the Tainted Love/Where Did Our Love Go 12" mix. Dave Ball, as you say, is a genius.
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/mar/20/how-we-made-tainted-love-mark-almond-dave-ball-interview
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Non-Stop Erotic Cabaret remains one of my top 30 albums of all time by the way, it's a work of genius.
True and as good as it is, it doesn't come close to the Tainted Love/Where Did Our Love Go 12" mix. Dave Ball, as you say, is a genius.
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/mar/20/how-we-made-tainted-love-mark-almond-dave-ball-interview
A mate of mine was the DJ that played the northern version of Tainted Love in the Warehouse mentioned in that article. I knew the story about the royalties, Ed Cobb must have loved the cheques turning up every week. He also wrote Every Little Bit Hurts which combined with Tainted Love probably set him up for life. Not bad for half an hours work.