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Title: Tuesday vs Wednesday?
Post by: usav on March 06, 2017, 12:50:07 PM
Is it me or do all of our midweek games now seem to be on Tuesday?  Obviously we can't dictate the away ones, but we seem to have switched in the last several years to playing on a Tuesday at home.  I swear in the 80's/90's most of our midweek games were on Wednesday.   Am I making this up?
Title: Re: Tuesday vs Wednesday?
Post by: MalcolmP on March 06, 2017, 01:01:36 PM
Is it me or do all of our midweek games now seem to be on Tuesday?  Obviously we can't dictate the away ones, but we seem to have switched in the last several years to playing on a Tuesday at home.  I swear in the 80's/90's most of our midweek games were on Wednesday.   Am I making this up?
No it always used to be predominantly Wednesdays for most of my 50 + years of going down Villa Park! Its probably got something to do with Sky - all the other changes are their fault!

The Champions League are going to have Double Headers in the Group stages with one game kicking off at 6.00 and the other at 8.00 - really thinking of the supporters again - how the **** can people working get to the game for 6.00? (At least this will not affect us Villa fans for a couple of years!) At least can't blame Sky for this one.
Title: Re: Tuesday vs Wednesday?
Post by: Villa Lew on March 06, 2017, 02:10:24 PM
Yes it was nearly always on Wednesdays. Though I think it does make sense to play the mid week games on Tuesdays, as Tuesday is the night, which is nearer to midweek, if you're playing Saturday to Saturday 3pm, as you are always leaving 3 days plus a few hours between matches. Whereas you are not doing so if you're playing Wednesday night to Saturday afternoon.

Virtually all the EFL clubs these days play on Tuesday nights, and only play on a Wednesday night if they've played on the previous Sunday.
Title: Re: Tuesday vs Wednesday?
Post by: eamonn on March 06, 2017, 02:36:57 PM
I think one of the Scottish managers changed it to Tue. Clearly they were Corrie fans rather than Eastenders. Northern solidarity I guess.
Title: Re: Tuesday vs Wednesday?
Post by: Simon Page on March 06, 2017, 02:43:46 PM
I seem to recall we changed from Weds to Tue sometime around 2012.
Title: Re: Tuesday vs Wednesday?
Post by: GordonCowansisthegreatest on March 06, 2017, 03:48:57 PM
I thought it was Wednesday on Saturday! ;-)
Title: Re: Tuesday vs Wednesday?
Post by: Chipsticks on March 06, 2017, 04:02:23 PM
I think one of the Scottish managers changed it to Tue. Clearly they were Corrie fans rather than Eastenders. Northern solidarity I guess.

I seem to recall we changed from Weds to Tue sometime around 2012.

This has always confused me. Forgive me if I'm being thick, but can the club request to play mid-week games on a certain night?
Title: Re: Tuesday vs Wednesday?
Post by: West Derby Villan on March 06, 2017, 05:17:17 PM
Yeah always on Wednesdays until last few years. Given the choice, Wednesday for me
Title: Re: Tuesday vs Wednesday?
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 06, 2017, 05:36:09 PM
Alex McLeish changed it and nobody's bothered to change it back.
Title: Re: Tuesday vs Wednesday?
Post by: usav on March 06, 2017, 06:09:12 PM
Alex McLeish changed it and nobody's bothered to change it back.
So either nobody cares enough or they like Tuesdays as well.

Title: Re: Tuesday vs Wednesday?
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 06, 2017, 06:21:55 PM
Alex McLeish changed it and nobody's bothered to change it back.
So either nobody cares enough or they like Tuesdays as well.



Probably.  I don't suppose it makes much difference either. way.
Title: Re: Tuesday vs Wednesday?
Post by: class-of-82 on March 06, 2017, 06:28:34 PM
It's a wonder someone has not blamed Hutton for it
Title: Re: Tuesday vs Wednesday?
Post by: steamer on March 06, 2017, 06:38:37 PM
To my Memory We always played on Wednesday and the Noses on Tuesday.
And the change was made by Mcleish. he must have felt homesick.
Title: Re: Tuesday vs Wednesday?
Post by: MorrisNielson on March 06, 2017, 08:49:35 PM
Lambert’s seasons sees the shift to Tuesday.
Historical, Monday was generally the weekday for home games, up the 1960’s.
Note Saturday only games for the first league season.
Here’s a breakdown of days. That’s numberwang:

(http://thumb.ibb.co/jypHBF/P5zBOUM.png) (http://ibb.co/jypHBF)

Title: Re: Tuesday vs Wednesday?
Post by: four fornicholl on March 06, 2017, 08:54:42 PM
Lambert’s seasons sees the shift to Tuesday.
Historical, Monday was generally the weekday for home games, up the 1960’s.
Note Saturday only games for the first league season.
Here’s a breakdown of days. That’s numberwang:

(http://thumb.ibb.co/jypHBF/P5zBOUM.png) (http://ibb.co/jypHBF)

Monday, 80-81, cup?
Title: Re: Tuesday vs Wednesday?
Post by: MorrisNielson on March 06, 2017, 08:59:05 PM
Lambert’s seasons sees the shift to Tuesday.
Historical, Monday was generally the weekday for home games, up the 1960’s.
Note Saturday only games for the first league season.
Here’s a breakdown of days. That’s numberwang:

(http://thumb.ibb.co/jypHBF/P5zBOUM.png) (http://ibb.co/jypHBF)

Monday, 80-81, cup?
League only. Without checking, probably Easter Monday/Boxing Day.
Title: Re: Tuesday vs Wednesday?
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 06, 2017, 09:12:41 PM
Stoke away iirc, a bank holiday game I think.
Title: Re: Tuesday vs Wednesday?
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 06, 2017, 09:19:58 PM
Stoke away iirc, a bank holiday game I think.

Easter Monday.
Title: Re: Tuesday vs Wednesday?
Post by: Charlie8182 on March 07, 2017, 06:33:43 AM
Also, I recall a time when midweek kick offs were always at 7.30 instead of 7.45/8.00 nowadays.
Title: Re: Tuesday vs Wednesday?
Post by: robbo1874 on March 07, 2017, 06:38:20 AM
We need an extra half hour for all our fans coming in from the shires to park up their Range Rovers
Title: Re: Tuesday vs Wednesday?
Post by: Witton Warrior on March 07, 2017, 08:18:23 AM
We need an extra half hour for all our fans coming in from the shires to park up their Range Rovers

I have to get my hunter stabled...
Title: Re: Tuesday vs Wednesday?
Post by: robbo1874 on March 07, 2017, 08:23:49 AM
Hillman?
Title: Re: Tuesday vs Wednesday?
Post by: Richard E on March 07, 2017, 08:26:18 AM
We ought to arrange games against Sheffield Wednesday for a Tuesday because then half their players won't be able to get the time off work to play and we will win easily against a weakened team.
Title: Re: Tuesday vs Wednesday?
Post by: N'ZMAV on March 07, 2017, 09:36:52 AM
It's a wonder someone has not blamed Hutton for it
Hutton would try and change the day but fail.
Title: Re: Tuesday vs Wednesday?
Post by: Chris Harte on March 07, 2017, 01:26:35 PM
Also, I recall a time when midweek kick offs were always at 7.30 instead of 7.45/8.00 nowadays.
Yes, always 7.30pm. And so usually home before or not long after 10pm.

Also Wednesdays were better simply because you'd broken the back of the working week (or school week, if going back far enough) when you went to the game.

I'd love to see a return to 7.30pm Wednesdays, but I assume it'll never happen.
Title: Re: Tuesday vs Wednesday?
Post by: pooligan on March 07, 2017, 02:11:11 PM
I could be wrong as my memory is not as good as it was but i seem to recall when i first started to follow Villa in the early sixties that midweek evening games always kicked of at 7 15 pm
Title: Re: Tuesday vs Wednesday?
Post by: usav on March 07, 2017, 03:16:25 PM
Lambert’s seasons sees the shift to Tuesday.
Historical, Monday was generally the weekday for home games, up the 1960’s.
Note Saturday only games for the first league season.
Here’s a breakdown of days. That’s numberwang:

(http://thumb.ibb.co/jypHBF/P5zBOUM.png) (http://ibb.co/jypHBF)


Now that is some proper statting.   Very nice.
Title: Re: Tuesday vs Wednesday?
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 07, 2017, 05:07:50 PM
I could be wrong as my memory is not as good as it was but i seem to recall when i first started to follow Villa in the early sixties that midweek evening games always kicked of at 7 15 pm

I think they did. Before that, they took place at 3pm midweek before floodlights.

7.45 became standard post-Hillsborough, when clubs and police were hypersensitive to fans arriving late.
Title: Re: Tuesday vs Wednesday?
Post by: Three Spires Villa on March 07, 2017, 07:37:21 PM
Always on a Wednesday at 7.30, when I was a young lad, in the mid 70s. Great memories of walking through Aston Park with my Dad and sister in the dark for a Wednesday night match, being in awe of the AV floodlights. For some reason I always think of a game v Blackburn in the cup zero which I think was a draw.
Title: Re: Tuesday vs Wednesday?
Post by: Three Spires Villa on March 07, 2017, 07:38:27 PM
Ha, ha don't know what the cup zero is, doh!!!
Title: Re: Tuesday vs Wednesday?
Post by: DeKuip on March 08, 2017, 01:53:43 AM
Yes it was always 7.30 on a Wednesday with a 10 minute half-time break, which was plenty of time to get a wagon wheel and piss in the bloke's pockets in front of you.
Games finished at 9.10 and you could be home in time to watch the highlights on Sportsnight with Coleman if the cameras were there, which they often were for us in the League Cup.
Only Blues used to play at home on Tuesdays - when we both drawn at home in the League Cup or had home replays in the FA Cup I'd often go to both.
Title: Re: Tuesday vs Wednesday?
Post by: SoccerHQ on March 08, 2017, 02:58:03 PM
Championship prefers to do Saturday-Tuesday double headers whereas premier league plays majority of its games on a Wednesday for the midweek fixtures.

Of course TV and clubs can change around aswell.
Title: Re: Tuesday vs Wednesday?
Post by: Cleybrooke on March 08, 2017, 04:48:56 PM
So why do some midweek games start at 7:45 and others at 8pm?
Title: Re: Tuesday vs Wednesday?
Post by: SoccerHQ on March 08, 2017, 05:18:46 PM
I think nominally games are scheduled at 7.45pm but some clubs request to start at 8pm.

Reading midweek games like last night also seem to start at 8 and Bolton's another one.
Title: Re: Tuesday vs Wednesday?
Post by: saunders_heroes on March 08, 2017, 05:20:10 PM
I think nominally games are scheduled at 7.45pm but some clubs request to start at 8pm.

Reading midweek games like last night also seem to start at 8 and Bolton's another one.

Years back we used to mainly kick off at 7.30pm.
Title: Re: Tuesday vs Wednesday?
Post by: SoccerHQ on March 08, 2017, 05:28:43 PM
Didn't some Uefa Cup game a few years back kick off at around 6pm and there was a mass outcry about it?
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