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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on January 02, 2017, 02:01:40 PM
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Fuck sorry about the massive graphic. I wish there was a way of fixing that
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Interesting side, McCormack needs to turn up.
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oh dear....good to see RHM and Tshibola back on bench. Maybe the plan is bank of 4 with bacuna / adomah wide and just let Jack win fouls in a free role!
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oh dear....good to see RHM and Tshibola back on bench. Maybe the plan is bank of 4 with bacuna / adomah wide and just let Jack win fouls in a free role!
why oh dear?
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Thank god Jedinak is getting some sleep somewhere
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Fuck sorry about the massive graphic. I wish there was a way of fixing that
Big team news...
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I would have thought Ayew a certain starter after the whole contacting the Ghanaian FA.
Midfield I just don't understand. I await the same old problems, faults and lack of decent play.
I fancied a win, yet am now leaning towards a draw.
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I would have thought Ayew a certain starter after the whole contacting the Ghanaian FA.
Midfield I just don't understand. I await the same old problems, faults and lack of decent play.
I fancied a win, yet am now leaning towards a draw.
It could have been a request made by Ghana not to play him the full game
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I would have thought Ayew a certain starter after the whole contacting the Ghanaian FA.
Midfield I just don't understand. I await the same old problems, faults and lack of decent play.
I fancied a win, yet am now leaning towards a draw.
It could have been a request made by Ghana not to play him the full game
You could well be right, TV. I didn't think of that!
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oh dear....good to see RHM and Tshibola back on bench. Maybe the plan is bank of 4 with bacuna / adomah wide and just let Jack win fouls in a free role!
why oh dear?
I fear the midfield will miss Jedineks strength and no height up front to hold up play. Noting that there was not a lot Bruce could do in this area with Kodjia away/gestede up north and gabby shite
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oh dear....good to see RHM and Tshibola back on bench. Maybe the plan is bank of 4 with bacuna / adomah wide and just let Jack win fouls in a free role!
why oh dear?
I fear the midfield will miss Jedineks strength and no height up front to hold up play. Noting that there was not a lot Bruce could do in this area with Kodjia away/gestede up north and gabby shite
There's 5 players in there and we are playing Cardiff. So I remain optimistic that the drop off isn't too extreme. We do need some midfielders through this January.
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Central midfield is making my eyes bleed
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Fuck sorry about the massive graphic. I wish there was a way of fixing that
Its cool
my eyes are fucked anyway
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Good to see Tshibola back in the reckoning. Other than I guess the team selected itself.
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4231?
Bunn
Hutton Chester Baker Amavi
Westwood Gardner
Adomah Grealish Bacuna
McCormack
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4231?
Bunn
Hutton Chester Baker Amavi
Westwood Gardner
Adomah Grealish Bacuna
McCormack
Or 433 with Jack left
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Brucey favourite 433.
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oh dear....good to see RHM and Tshibola back on bench. Maybe the plan is bank of 4 with bacuna / adomah wide and just let Jack win fouls in a free role!
why oh dear?
I fear the midfield will miss Jedineks strength and no height up front to hold up play. Noting that there was not a lot Bruce could do in this area with Kodjia away/gestede up north and gabby shite
There's 5 players in there and we are playing Cardiff. So I remain optimistic that the drop off isn't too extreme. We do need some midfielders through this January.
Hope your right - maybe Gardener will be able to win a bit more than we've seen before if he is asked to sit back. We must keep the ball on the deck though. I can't see any aerial presence upfront & midfield. Against leeds every goalkick / long ball was aimed to Jedi
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433?
Bunn
Hutton Chester Baker Amavi
Westwood Gardner Bacuna
Adomah McCormack Grealish
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No Kodjia = draw at best today.
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No Jedinak, not even on the bench? Hopefully not injured and being rested?
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I'd give Jedi a rest until Wolves game.
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According to the B'ham Mail, Jedinak is ill....
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Just show's how poor our midfield is, Very light so a draw today be like a win.
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Is this available anywhere to watch?
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Is this available anywhere to watch?
Cardiff, I believe.
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Is this available anywhere to watch?
Or listen?
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It will force us to play a different way. It's not always a bad thing. McCormack has a great goalscoring record at this level. Time for us to find a way to get him the ball in dangerous areas and have him finish those chances.
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Is this available anywhere to watch?
Or listen?
It's on WM on FM, but my tuner is DAB only so think I'll try AVTV
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Just show's how poor our midfield is, Very light so a draw today be like a win.
Bruce has options, he just chooses not to use them. Jordan Lyden is a natural replacement for Jedi but he's not a fan of "kids".
I guess we'll see Westwood sitting and pointing with Bacuna and Gardner going box to box. It may just suit our game by keeping it on the deck but you have to wonder what will happen if Cardiff start playing it long. There's no height and I just hope Baker and Chester don't get pulled out of position.
All that considered, I still think we'll have enough to beat them. A goal from open play would be a bonus.
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Central midfield is making my eyes bleed
BEM says...
Mile Jedinak misses out today through illness. Over to Westwood, Gardner and Bacuna to add the midfield bite.
I say more like midfield sucks
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I fear the worst having seen that starting 11
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So, for the first time this season I find myself unable to attend a match or watch it on telly. My Google-fu has let me down finding a moogy stream so i'm winding the clock back to the '80's and listening to the match on WM. Do they still have that horrible hooter thing when someone scores?
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WM Commentary:
https://www.periscope.tv/w/1eaJbRlAmWZJX?q=aston+villa (https://www.periscope.tv/w/1eaJbRlAmWZJX?q=aston+villa)
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I'm not so confident with that line up. If I'm being kind, I'd say that 3 don't deserve to start (Bunn, Hutton, Westwood) and 3 don't deserve to be on our bench - Cissokho, Elphick, Gabby.
I really hope they can prove me wrong today and I'll be very impressed with Bruce if we get a win.
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Radio here for those that can't get BBC WM
https://www.periscope.tv/w/1eaJbRlAmWZJX?q=Aston+Villa
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Is this available anywhere to watch?
Or listen?
http://www.internetradiouk.com/bbc-warwick/
Edit.. Maybe not.
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WM commentary is on AVTV as well
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How is that going to work? Bunter a false 9?
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Brilliant. AVTV crashed so no coverage for me
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Thanks for the periscope link, working well
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Brilliant. AVTV crashed so no coverage for me
https://www.periscope.tv/w/1eaJbRlAmWZJX?q=aston+villa (https://www.periscope.tv/w/1eaJbRlAmWZJX?q=aston+villa)
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Yeah cheers RCF.
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Brilliant. AVTV crashed so no coverage for me
https://www.periscope.tv/w/1eaJbRlAmWZJX?q=aston+villa (https://www.periscope.tv/w/1eaJbRlAmWZJX?q=aston+villa)
Cheers!
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Is this available anywhere to watch?
Cardiff, I believe.
Is this available anywhere to watch?
Or listen?
Its on periscope
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WM Commentary:
https://www.periscope.tv/w/1eaJbRlAmWZJX?q=aston+villa (https://www.periscope.tv/w/1eaJbRlAmWZJX?q=aston+villa)
Thanks!!
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Loads of streams for the Newcastle game. That's irritating.
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was that a pen?
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Loads of streams for the Newcastle game
Because it's on Skysports....and it's live!
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Ref's a homer
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Brilliant. AVTV crashed so no coverage for me
https://www.periscope.tv/w/1eaJbRlAmWZJX?q=aston+villa (https://www.periscope.tv/w/1eaJbRlAmWZJX?q=aston+villa)
Great this. Does he do every game?
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Jack sounding very decent and could scare the shit out of Cardiff all game
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I thought Westwood would of scored by now
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Can't see anything more than a draw today. Looks like they're going to rough up our powderpuff midfield.
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WM Commentary:
https://www.periscope.tv/w/1eaJbRlAmWZJX?q=aston+villa (https://www.periscope.tv/w/1eaJbRlAmWZJX?q=aston+villa)
Thanks!!
I'm clicking on these links but there's no sound. Can read the comments though.
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Ref sounds like a pillock. Just gave a free kick to them from 30 yards away but linesman didn't flag and he was a lot closer.
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fFS Villa
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Oh shit
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I'm really hoping Jack can start to have a more sustained positive influence on games. His issue is he drifts out of games too much.
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fuck :(
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Fuck off!
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Oh shit.
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Same as the Leeds goal ... Bunn fumbling, it seems
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Fucking hell Villa living on the edge
And there you go fuck me
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Bollocks.
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Fucking hell, Villa.
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crap defending again
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Bloody hell that was a scrappy goal to concede.
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never mind our mighty midfield will get us back into the game
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Cornalty to us.
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corner
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Sounds like Bunn again. He's just rubbish.
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When Westwood's the one likely to cause problems you just know things are bad
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Sounded like Bunn more or less gave them the corner before too
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This sounds all too familiar.
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Villa, Walsall and Baggies losing 1-0...Blose just took the lead against Brentford.
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It's stating the obvious, but until the deadwood is binned, we will continue to stutter-(ie. lose and draw)
Simply don't play rubbish players, don't give them big contracts, dont give them clean slates, don't put them on the bench. Remove, pay off, sell, execute.
Or we stay in this league.
There are 6 players in our matchday squad that I simply wouldn't have in there at all. They are 6 players that offer fuck all.
Four of them are in our team, cannot be defended and are the main reason we struggle.
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cardiff nearly 2 - 0
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Sounds like a massive let-off
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Making a shit side look like world beaters again.
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what chance have you got with Gardner and Westwood in midfield
Hutton at RB
Bunn in goal
these players are not good enough
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He needs to change things quickly here before they score again.
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Just seen the line up. Our midfield, oh dear
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WESTWOOD CAN'T KICK A FUCKING FOOTBALL.
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Sounds frigging dire.
For all the talk of us having a strong squad, we don't really have a strong squad do we?
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Was the West Bromwich keeper howler our last lucky break? In that time we must have conceded 20 appalling goals
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Sounds like a massive let-off
It does resemble a cloud of noxious gas stinking out the room, yes.
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Tshibola surely to God, must replace Westwood or Gardner asap. The game is slipping away as it stands
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We're clearly going to lose this. We really need Bunn and Hutton out of the squad, let alone the side.
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Sounded like Bunn more or less gave them the corner before too
Looked like he caught it but fell over behind the line.
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I'm really hoping Jack can start to have a more sustained positive influence on games. His issue is he drifts out of games too much.
He cant and he wont
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what chance have you got with Gardner and Westwood in midfield
Hutton at RB
Bunn in goal
these players are not good enough
This. Add the half arsed Bacuna to that too. Absolute shite. The quicker we start signing upgrades the quicker we can make a sustained challenge on the play offs.
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This would be a rubbish result. Not good enough.
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The prick Warnock has obviously told his morons to kick lumps out of Grealish; meanwhile, who's going to create anything for us?
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I really would not want to go up or be anywhere near the play offs with this lot
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Has McCormack touched the ball yet? Haven't heard his name at all. I'd take him off and get Ayew to play up top
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It seems no Kodjia = no plan b.
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I really would not want to go up or be anywhere near the play offs with this lot
I don't think you'll have any cause for worry, to be honest.
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Has McCormack touched the ball yet? Haven't heard his name at all. I'd take him off and get Ayew to play up top
I'd suggest it's the fault of the players behind him, rather than it being fatties fault.
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Warnock teams rely on running around like maniacs. Playing them when they're nice and rested was always going to be bad news.
FIFA also need to ensure that consistent rules are employed for international calls. It's completely unreasonable that their African player is allowed to play and our star player isn't.
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closest villa have come then
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We're not scoring here are we.
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McCormack near there. Resulting corner wank.
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bacuna hopeless there
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It seems no Kodjia = no plan b.
It's not as if Plan A was any good to begin with, whatever it was.
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We're not scoring here are we.
we've only scored 7 away all season. I've seen 3 of them live in 2 games.... and we've won both.... I should obviously go away more often to up that tally!
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are the likes of green and Lyden that bad?
or injured
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I really would not want to go up or be anywhere near the play offs with this lot
I don't think you'll have any cause for worry, to be honest.
tis the truth
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corner villa
adomah doing ok
gardner crap shot
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It seems no Kodjia = no plan
Fixed
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We're not playing anywhere near well enough.
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what chance have you got with Gardner and Westwood in midfield
Hutton at RB
Bunn in goal
these players are not good enough
Exactly. So why offer Gardner a new contract? In any other industry it wouldnt happen. Defies belief or common sense
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just watched 14 passes after hutton ran at them, and where did we end up??? almost back by our own gkeeper.fucking absolute shite!!!!!
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Garder and Westwood? Basic maths? 2 negative gives you a positive
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Off the line from Albert. FFs!
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cardiff hit post
and off the line
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It is baffling though, that the obvious faults (players) in our team have been the same obvious faults for god knows how long.
They've never had great games, never stood out, have been on countless losing teams for us. They're quite clearly rubbish football players.
Yet they keep playing, pretty much week in week out. I just can't support such players.
I long for the day they disappear from our club. It does make me wonder what managers see in them. Gollini was clearly dropped after the Leeds game for what the manager saw as a mistake. Gollini is much better than Bunn, it's embarrassing. If Gollini can be dropped, why aren't these talentless wasters fucking dropped? It's infuriating.
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Is this being screened at all?
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Post and off the line. Bruce really needs to change this
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bruce
please dont play Westwood and Gardner together ;(
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again cardiff should have scored
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Cardiff one on one. FFs!
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should be 3 or 4 Cardiff here
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How did they miss that?
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This sounds fucking crap. Once again.
Get a midfield, please, Mr Bruce.
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Fuck me, we should be 4 down
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we are getting hanmered by Warnocks Cardiff
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We are massively shit aren't we?!
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This is fucking unacceptable.
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Commentator "This should be 4-0 by now".
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Don't think Westwood or Gardner are good enough even for this level. Putting them both in our midfield borders on incompetence
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commentator says Gabby should come on
christ
how fucking bad
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what chance have you got with Gardner and Westwood in midfield
Hutton at RB
Bunn in goal
these players are not good enough
Exactly. So why offer Gardner a new contract? In any other industry it wouldnt happen. Defies belief or common sense
Its all part of a master plan so when a club comes in with a bid for him we get 250 quid instead of nothing
start with westwood and/or gardner on a regular basis and you end up exactly where we are in a pisspot league
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Most unsurprising comment on WM commentary "Amavi didn't know where anyone was"
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Why the fuck is it so hard to be a fan of Aston Villa?
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If some of our youngsters can't get into this team then they must be truly awful.
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half time
Villa shite
too many conference players who every week do fuck all but keep getting picked
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This is horrendous. Really, really bad.
Westwood and Gardner as a 'partnership' are up there with Salifou and Isaiah Osbourne. Powderpuff fannies.
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i am praying that was the shit half but not holding my breath
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Right Bruce this isn't anywhere near good enough. Sort it out.
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HT. 1-0. Blessed are we.
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Bunn, Hutton, Westwood, Gardner, Bacuna...5 players that aren't good enough to be making it into our starting XI, and you could make similar cases for a few more that started today. The players are simply not good enough, and thats why we are where we are, and why we're losing to Cardiff.
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HT. 1-0. Blessed are we.
we will get something from this now
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This is horrendous. Really, really bad.
Westwood and Gardner as a 'partnership' are up there with Salifou and Isaiah Osbourne. Powderpuff fannies.
Opinion on WM is that we are lucky not to be 4-0 down. Been listening all half and have hardly heard Westwood or Gardner mentioned.
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Bunn, Hutton, Westwood, Gardner, Bacuna...5 players that aren't good enough to be making it into our starting XI, and you could make similar cases for a few more that started today. The players are simply not good enough, and thats why we are where we are, and why we're losing to Cardiff.
i honest thought all these players would have been fucked off by now to Coventry or Moor Green
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Christ that was desperate. We should keep it tight second half then bring on Gestede to cause a few problems. Oh wait we've let him go even though we've lost Kodjia for a month.
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Bunn, Hutton, Westwood, Gardner, Bacuna...5 players that aren't good enough to be making it into our starting XI, and you could make similar cases for a few more that started today. The players are simply not good enough, and thats why we are where we are, and why we're losing to Cardiff.
Getting battered by Cardiff!
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If fans want to know while other fans worry about unconvincing performances, this is why. Teams start to work out that they can get us, you lose a couple of key players and then start getting beaten. Pathetic so far, against a relegation threatened team who are just prepared to get physical.
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Midfield utter shite as usual, Westwood and Gardner in the same Villa team. When will we be finally rid of players like this?
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Sounds like we've been lucky to only be one down. Hopefully we will be much improved in the Second Half.
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Christ that was desperate. We should keep it tight second half then bring on Gestede to cause a few problems. Oh wait we've let him go even though we've lost Kodjia for a month.
no worries we have Agbonlahor
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All the other results are going our way. Believe
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Christ that was desperate. We should keep it tight second half then bring on Gestede to cause a few problems. Oh wait we've let him go even though we've lost Kodjia for a month.
Weve become a feeder club for erm....Midlesboro.
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It's too cold for this shit.
Fucking Gardner standing out as the worst of a terrible bunch. The midfield is dire, they're being bullied by a dog shit side in the bottom 3.
No organisation as the back and we could have been 3 down.
Needs to be somebody up front 2nd half, as they're knocking balls into the channel for McCormack who isn't going to be able to.do anything with it.
Absolutely atrocious. Ayew or Agbonlahor has to come on up top to give McCormack a partner. Tshibola into the midfield.
Fucking garbage!
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Bunn, Hutton, Westwood, Gardner, Bacuna...5 players that aren't good enough to be making it into our starting XI, and you could make similar cases for a few more that started today. The players are simply not good enough, and thats why we are where we are, and why we're losing to Cardiff.
The sort I honestly thought would finally be given the boot from the club after relegation yet here they are in a Villa team causing us misery in 2017.
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Christ that was desperate. We should keep it tight second half then bring on Gestede to cause a few problems. Oh wait we've let him go even though we've lost Kodjia for a month.
Weve become a feeder club for erm....Midlesboro.
known as Middlesvilla
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I have said for a long time that our 'revival' feels like it is built on sand.
It just feels like there is not enough belief in this team.
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Time for bed. I've had enough of such dreadful team selections, riddled with prehistoric 'nous'.
I will pray for a second half comeback. Failing that, a sink hole for our midfield.
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It's too cold for this shit.
Fucking Gardner standing out as the worst of a terrible bunch. The midfield is dire, they're being bullied by a dog shit side in the bottom 3.
No organisation as the back and we could have been 3 down.
Needs to be somebody up front 2nd half, as they're knocking balls into the channel for McCormack who isn't going to be able to.do anything with it.
Absolutely atrocious. Ayew or Agbonlahor has to come on up top to give McCormack a partner. Tshibola into the midfield.
Fucking garbage!
Tish needs to be given a fucking chance
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Bring on Agbonlahor and Tshibola second half. Surely it can't be any worse?
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commentator says Gabby should come on
christ
how fucking bad
Amazes me that many commentators consistently reckon Flabby is the answer. Its almost like he plays today as he did in 2009. Lazy and ill informed commentary
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Bunn, Hutton, Westwood, Gardner, Bacuna...5 players that aren't good enough to be making it into our starting XI, and you could make similar cases for a few more that started today. The players are simply not good enough, and thats why we are where we are, and why we're losing to Cardiff.
I'm sick of being shit. These players are robbing us of any enjoyment. I know we haven't got any suitable replacements for them but I hope that Bruce and Xia see them in the same way we do. I honestly put Westwood and Bacuna in the same mould as Balaban, Ormsby, Bernie Gallagher and David O'Dreary. I hate Westwood and Bacuna.
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Bunn, Hutton, Westwood, Gardner, Bacuna...5 players that aren't good enough to be making it into our starting XI, and you could make similar cases for a few more that started today. The players are simply not good enough, and thats why we are where we are, and why we're losing to Cardiff.
The sort I honestly thought would finally be given the boot from the club after relegation yet here they are in a Villa team causing us misery in 2017.
I despise them mate
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Tish must be bloody rubbish in training if he can't displace either of those cretins in centre midfield
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Going to be a long month without Kodja
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Going to be a long month without Kodja
Get a hot water bottle
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If fans want to know while other fans worry about unconvincing performances, this is why. Teams start to work out that they can get us, you lose a couple of key players and then start getting beaten. Pathetic so far, against a relegation threatened team who are just prepared to get physical.
Exactly right, this is why performances like the leeds game are unacceptable and why Bruce needs to show that he can do something about it rather than just talk about it. I just don't accept that this is entirely because our squad isn't good enough, it's because we're not playing to the strengths of the squad and it's making our weaknesses all the more obvious.
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Going to be a long month without Kodja
That's why it's a bit odd we've let Gestede leave when we had an important game today. In fact it's ridiculous when you think of the times he's come on as sub and caused problems and turned games.
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Got to be changes at halftime
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im still gobsmacked Hutton , westwood and Gardner still get games .
bacuna i never mention nowadays as last season he completely fucked me off and i thought if i keep thinking of Bacuna i am going to have a stroke , and even at this level he is mostly wank.
Bunn should be fourth choice , at least Johnstone will be ahead of him next game.
Tish , green and Lyden must be on the phones instead of training at Bodymoor , no Idea they never get a run out.
Gabby fucking agbondofuckall is still on the bench. why the fuck??
I would be looking at six players in January .. because you are not winning games with this midfield.
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Am I reading this forum right..people calling for flabby to be brought on..!!! If that's the case we are up shit creek with out a paddle any fresh water and any provisions. We are holed and slowly sinking into a creek full of oversized piranhas that can live in polluted water and haven't eaten for weeks.
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Sadly this kind of performance is the norm for us. We haven't played well since Brighton away, and we didn't even win that. You can't keep playing poorly and picking up results.
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commentator says Gabby should come on
christ
how fucking bad
Amazes me that many commentators consistently reckon Flabby is the answer. Its almost like he plays today as he did in 2009. Lazy and ill informed commentary
agree
RHM should be ahead of the fat loser
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Even with Kodjia our away form has been awful. Unless we address this, the play offs will be impossible. I'm hoping this fact we're trying to bring 4-5 players in means that they are all players who will walk into our strarting lineup
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Bring on Agbonlahor and Tshibola second half. Surely it can't be any worse?
Yes it can by having that fucking leech Agbonlahor on . Give the young kid Hepburn - Murphy a chance.
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First time I've logged on today. Westwood in side equals loss. Simple. The guy isa total jinx
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westwood and gardner are off
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https://www.periscope.tv/w/1eaKbRlQNqqKX
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Tish and agbondofuckall are on
why not RHM
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Ha ha. Westwood and Gardner off. Fucking hell, just about every Villa fan in the world could have told him that wouldn't work from the start.
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Ayew is normally ok as a sub and hes fucking off soon - so even him than Agbondofuckall.
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Who have we brought on?
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Westwood & Gardner off! Halftime teacups?!
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im still gobsmacked Hutton , westwood and Gardner still get games .
bacuna i never mention nowadays as last season he completely fucked me off and i thought if i keep thinking of Bacuna i am going to have a stroke , and even at this level he is mostly wank.
Bunn should be fourth choice , at least Johnstone will be ahead of him next game.
Tish , green and Lyden must be on the phones instead of training at Bodymoor , no Idea they never get a run out.
Gabby fucking agbondofuckall is still on the bench. why the fuck??
I would be looking at six players in January .. because you are not winning games with this midfield.
That's what annoys me too. Players who were called out years ago are still with us which is bad enough but they're getting games as well.
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Who have we brought on?
Tish & Gabby
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Who have we brought on?
Agbondofuckall.
Tish
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Agbonlafuckinghor?
Congratulations on the win, Cardiff.
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First time I've logged on today. Westwood in side equals loss. Simple. The guy isa total jinx
Except last Thursday and every other time he has played when we haven't lost ? Can't blame all the club's genral shitness on one player.
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fFS Hutton is fucking dire
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Gardner & Westwood off. Good. Tshibola on. Good. Flabby on - with his scoring rate, just why? Especially when we've gone to great lengths to keep Ayew for this game
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Tish, now we will know.
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Tshibola (not Tishbola) just did a header, so that beats anything Westwood can do.
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Bruce out.
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Tish, now we will know.
NO, WE WILL NOT EVER KNOW.
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Bruce out.
LOL Chris. Give him until the weekend at least.
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Even with Kodjia our away form has been awful. Unless we address this, the play offs will be impossible. I'm hoping this fact we're trying to bring 4-5 players in means that they are all players who will walk into our strarting lineup
We wont make the play offs. The results of the Bruce era have been a massive improvemnt compared to what went before. However the performances are no better , if not worse than before. That doesnt add up to a top 6 finish
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We look very pedestrian and lack any sort of idea.
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First time I've logged on today. Westwood in side equals loss. Simple. The guy isa total jinx
Except last Thursday and every other time he has played when we haven't lost ? Can't blame all the club's genral shitness on one player.
How often has Westwood been on a winning side? Jeez, terrible argument. Shocking player.
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I'm getting to the point where staying down and fixing this properly is the right approach. While it would be great to suddenly find a magic sponge that solves 6 years of decay in a few months it's not realistic. We are better off rooting out the problems over a longer period of time across what will amount to 4 transfer windows before we play PL football again.
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There's no way we will go up if we continue to play this poorly.
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agbondofuckall playing as a No 10 then? what good is that
use his pace SB
oh i see , No 10 it is then
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There's no way we will go up.
Fixed.
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cardiff nearly 2 0
sounded like a Tish mistake
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I'm getting to the point where staying down and fixing this properly is the right approach. While it would be great to suddenly find a magic sponge that solves 6 years of decay in a few months it's not realistic. We are better off rooting out the problems over a longer period of time across what will amount to 4 transfer windows before we play PL football again.
Thing is though the longer you stay down the harder it is to get back up. The damage was done under Lerner's sabotage and the squad and infrastructure we were left with was appalling. A pox on his home!
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grealish getting the warnock treatment , no protection from the ref
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There's no way we will go up.
Fixed.
I'm glad people are coming round to the idea. Why torture ourselves with expectation and the inevitable disappointment?
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grealish getting the warnock treatment , no protection from the ref
They've targeted him from the off.
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Watching that periscope feed. Fucking hell, we are tippy tappying it around and going absolutely nowhere near their penalty area.
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For all we aren't playing well, the general shitness of the summer transfer window (again) together with the first eleven gameshas come back to bite us.
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Tish, now we will know.
NO, WE WILL NOT EVER KNOW.
Tish, now I know why.
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I'm getting to the point where staying down and fixing this properly is the right approach. While it would be great to suddenly find a magic sponge that solves 6 years of decay in a few months it's not realistic. We are better off rooting out the problems over a longer period of time across what will amount to 4 transfer windows before we play PL football again.
As much as I hate to think we are here for a while, I think you're right TV. The parachute payments will obviously cease, so we have to get back up by then. Next season might be more realistic.
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I'm getting to the point where staying down and fixing this properly is the right approach. While it would be great to suddenly find a magic sponge that solves 6 years of decay in a few months it's not realistic. We are better off rooting out the problems over a longer period of time across what will amount to 4 transfer windows before we play PL football again.
Probably a question for another day/thread, but if you're looking to rebuild like that, would you choose Bruce as the man to do it?
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the ref is shit
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C1LaYhlW8AAvtDL.jpg)
The title of this image is Alan Hutton determined to help the visitors back into this game.
Looks to me more like. Alan Hutton has fucking well fell over again missed the ball and fouled the Cardiff player.... and has some bad tattoos.
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I'm getting to the point where staying down and fixing this properly is the right approach. While it would be great to suddenly find a magic sponge that solves 6 years of decay in a few months it's not realistic. We are better off rooting out the problems over a longer period of time across what will amount to 4 transfer windows before we play PL football again.
Probably a question for another day/thread, but if you're looking to rebuild like that, would you choose Bruce as the man to do it?
Yes
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Fuck me, close
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villa hit bar
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Fuck. Hit the bar
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rMC freekick
goalie saved onto bar
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Surprising Bruce doesnt remember how dirty Cardiff was just a few games back.
If he did he wouldnt play Westwood who is the easiest player to bully in AV. One of the reason he is never hurt is that he just do not engage in phycical situations (pointing doesn't count).
At least Bruce figured that out at halftime. Scrappy games like this is what we need Jedi for. Missed sorely today.
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Sheffield and Barnsley drawing, Derby losing, Brentford equalise against Blose then miss a penalty to take the lead, Fulham beating Brighton...we could really do with 3 points today but we'll be lucky to scrape a draw.
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Just seen the goal for the first time. Pathetic.
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how many fouls are cardiff doing
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Just seen the goal for the first time. Pathetic.
Yes, but very lucky bouncing off the Cardiff player. We need some of the same luck.
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I fucking hate Colin Wanker and his neanderthal brand of football
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Shit ref
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hutton slow as fuck
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I fucking hate Warnock Wanker and his neanderthal brand of football
I've just read his autobiography. He doesn't sound a nice chap - hating everyone at some time or other.
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I thought the guy doing the Periscope feed was about to get his collar felt.
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This periscope feed is surprisingly good. Can see just how utterly shit we are.
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Just seen the goal. Bad defending but fuck me, how jammy was it? I can't recall us ever getting a goal like that and we've had at least three against us this season alone.
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save from agbonlahor
come on ref
protect Jack
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Amavi should have dealt with it.
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save from agbonlahor
What? - Gabby's in goal??
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the failure to strengthen our midfield over the past three years or so is borderline criminal negligence. Here's hoping Bruce has a few rabbits to pull out of the hat this month otherwise we can kiss goodbye to any chance of the playoffs
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adomah chance
well done Tshibola
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save from agbonlahor
What? - Gabby's in goal??
like the fat kid at school.
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Gabby overruns the ball shock
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another chance for Villa
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villa hit post now
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Sounds like we're creating chances and the most likely to score...could it happen?
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Hit the post again
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Brighton turn it round at Fulham.
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fuck me another foul on Jack
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sounds like abetter tempo from the Villa
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RHM on for mcCormack
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we aint gonna score
SB got the starting team all wrong
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This is a very bad defeat. Huddersfield, Leeds winning. Reading just come back from two down.
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save from agbonlahor
What? - Gabby's in goal??
Makes perfect sense. His side profile makes it impossible to concede
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I am quite disappointed.
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Have we actually played well under Bruce yet? We seem to have had a few wins where we've won despite not playing well, but I don't remember any good performances. The away record is dismal, and that line up today was obviously never going to end in a win
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Scarcely any consolation but Blues are losing 1-3.
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This will be a dreadful result but revealing as to how many issues we actually still have to fix. There is a long, long way to go for us.
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Scarcely any consolation but Blues are losing 1-3.
Irrelevant
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corner
come on villa
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Not even a draw.. was sure we'd. Well y'know. Be locks
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Has the ref given Jack anything today?
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another corner
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Has the ref given Jack anything today?
yellow card
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Bastards.
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ffs
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Have we actually played well under Bruce yet? We seem to have had a few wins where we've won despite not playing well, but I don't remember any good performances. The away record is dismal, and that line up today was obviously never going to end in a win
We havent played well. Thats always been why I dont think we will make the play offs. Luck only takes you so far
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What a shit result
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A real chance to close the gap on the playoff places wasted today.
Sheffield, Derby, Fulham and Blose all dropping points...Norwich and Preston go above us now.
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Shite Villa, utter utter Shite.
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That's me off Match Thread duty
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never going to get anywhere with our current midfield options
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we don't need the FAcup, just don't get to embarrassed
Cardiv i'll concede this aint our year.
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Please give us a new midfield Bruce/Xia.
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Flabby ffs, says it all!
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Only good personal thing today was going to put a tenner on Cardiff to win as soon as I saw the line up. What do our managers see in certain players. Without Jedinak at least winning some headers just what is the point of Westwood to name but one.
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This has got to be a consolidation year now we're just not ready/good enough for promotion to the Prem. The scale of problems we have just can't be put right in the January transfer window.
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Did the same in an acca with Man City and Leeds. Just knew from that line up with were fucked, no Jed, no Kodjia (thanks Ivory Coast) and no real options in midfield. Bruce aint stupid, he knows the squad has holes in it.
We can spend another year in this league or go big and try for that final play off spot.