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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on December 29, 2016, 06:52:51 PM
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Us: BUNN, HUTTON, AMAVI, CHESTER, BAKER, JEDINAK, WESTWOOD, BACUNA, GREALISH, AYEW, KODJIA
SUBS: GOLLINI, ELPHICK, AGBONLAHOR, GESTEDE, GARDNER, ADOMAH, MCCORMACK
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Groan - Westwood back. Much rather have gone with Adomah.
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Interesting to see how that's set up. 433 I guess rather than 442? Lack of width a worry.
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Westwood in a 3 man midfield is a different prospect to Westwood in a 2.....
That if its a 4-3-3?
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Not great not to have Adomah, but come on Villa.
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the quicker we replace Westwood and Hutton , the better
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Not bloody Clint Eastwood again ffs!!
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Groan - Westwood back. Much rather have gone with Adomah.
Agreed it's a surprising one, must be a midfield three
Dropping McCormack was the right call though, we need a lot more mobility up top tonight
Very surprised that Gestede is still involved, Boro deal must not be signed and sealed yet
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Westwood in a 3 man midfield is a different prospect to Westwood in a 2.....
That if its a 4-3-3?
4-1-4-1 maybe?
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No Bartley or Wood for them
Wood on bench
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Gabby on the bench with three other forwards. Surely Tish or Cissokho or a youngster would be better.
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Westwood in a 3 man midfield is a different prospect to Westwood in a 2.....
That if its a 4-3-3?
4-1-4-1 maybe?
And ending in a 4-1-1-4?
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Soon as I see his name I lose any confidence I had on us winning.
Can't wait for January, midfield reinforcements and no more Westwood!!
After his pathetic performance at Norwich he shouldn't be anywhere near starting eleven.
Please prove me wrong and will Villa!
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Fucking hell. Westwood MUST know where the bodies are buried. His last start he made 18 completed passes. Yes ladies and gentlemen you heard it right. Thats EIGHTEEN passes for a central midfielder!
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Westwood in a 3 man midfield is a different prospect to Westwood in a 2.....
That if its a 4-3-3?
4-1-4-1 maybe?
4-4-1-1
Grealish behind Kodjia ?
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I dont get Bruce...its almost January. Surely we are not keeping Westwood. He knows its going to piss of fans...
Might even bring boos if we lose or he stinks. What is the point? Starting him to prove he picks his own team?
Nothing good can come of it otherwise than a boost when he finally comes off.
Mindboggling...
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Fucking hell. Westwood MUST know where the bodies are buried. His last start he made 18 completed passes. Yes ladies and gentlemen you heard it right. Thats EIGHTEEN passes for a central midfielder!
Opposition managers must rub their hands, smile and tell their midfield "nowt to worry about here, you've won this battle already!!"
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maybe its just 3 games in 7 days, keeps them fresh
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As Tish obviously isn't going to be picked it's a choice between Gardner and Westwood, so it's a bit crap regardless of which one of those two it is. And we know it's one of those until sometime in Jan when we sign someone else so not much point (geddit) getting worked up that it's Westwood's turn to be mediocre.
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Anyone else's stream lacking audio?
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As Tish obviously isn't going to be picked it's a choice between Gardner and Westwood, so it's a bit crap regardless of which one of those two it is. And we know it's one of those until sometime in Jan when we sign someone else so not much point (geddit) getting worked up that it's Westwood's turn to be mediocre.
Yup. Outside of that I would say this is pretty close to our best 11.
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4-4-2 according to SS1. They reckon it'll be Ayew on the left and Grealish up front though, which seems counter-intuitive to me...
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Westwood has photos. So does Jedinak. Convinced of it...
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First thing to come to my mind seeing that team selection was old Albert's famous quote defining insanity - "doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."
Has Grealish and Ayew ever worked?
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Westwood is in for his.....pick one from:
Creativity
Tough tackling
Athletic ability
Organized
Pointing
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Anyone else's stream lacking audio?
Yes, mine
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Bench does seem top heavy.
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Westwood is in for his.....pick one from:
Creativity
Tough tackling
Athletic ability
Organized
Pointing
Keeps it ticking over apparently. Not sure how if he does touch the fucking ball.
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God help us, god bless us. Up the villa
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Would you rate Westwood up there with mark kinsella
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Anyone else's stream lacking audio?
Yes, mine
Got 5Live Audio with Andy Townsend and a silent stream. audio about 90 secs behind annoyingly.
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Evening everyone, come on Villa!
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Should have scored
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He is facing Bridcutt in his area... lets hope hes not physical, brave or technical. Then Westwood is toast...
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Had to score. Had to.
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Fuck! We should be one up!
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Fcukin hell
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Liquid football so far.
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Great start from Villa this.
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We need to start scoring these fucking sitters.
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Oof Kodj
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Good effort by Kod
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Good start need to carry it on.
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Amavi should've run at the goal a bit more there.
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This is more like it.
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Hutton is just really poor.
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We have to score during these moments of pressure!
Great start but we need to score!, we can't keep this up surely?
at least we're on the front foot.
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Leeds look as bang average as they did the other week. We must win this game.
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Didn't expect empty seats in the lower trinity
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Leeds seem to have weathered that early focus we had.
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Kodija should of passed there
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Still nobody getting from midfield into the box. 5 against one again.
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We're playing well need to add some cutting edge now.
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Pleasing so far.
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Jack is a cut above anything in this league.
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Kodija should of passed there
Should have passed
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Sigh. Westwood.
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Fuck off westwood. They were waiting for a midfielder to run onto a pass
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Fucking Weaslewood.
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Westwood almost looked like he lost that ball on purpose that was so bad
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Westwood.
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Sigh. Westwood.
Hes a ball watching ******. I actually hate him because hes so fucking shit.
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Westwood's first touch after the kick off was a misplaced pass to a Leeds player, a promising passage of play ends with Westwood giving away possession.
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Sigh. Westwood.
Hes a ball watching c***. I actually hate him because hes so fucking shit.
I dont hate him, but I hate it when he plays. He is actually seems to be getting worse.
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Westwood does nothing. Badly.
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Westwood does nothing. Badly.
And everything else terribly.
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Leeds fans singing Glory Glory Leeds United? Good sense of humour, I suppose.
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Dead fan medley. Interesting.
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Use your brain, Bacuna...
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Fuck me this is dull.
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See Andy Gray's mate is running the line...
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Kodjia just seems so isolated. Massive gap between the defensive midfield two and the players in front, and massive gap between the wide players and Kodjia. Just a lot of long low percentage passes.
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Ever since that Westwood moment we've been shit. Just shows you his littler bit of shitness permeates confidence
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Did the commentators just call Amavi "one of the best fullbacks in the league"?
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If any further evidence was required that we need at least one more actual midfield football player at the club, this half hour has provided it.
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Bruce like to let Bacuna and Ayew switch sides. Its not worth sidelining AA for IMHO.
Why not just let Bacuna play where Westwood is and Ayew can play naturally left wing forward.
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Fuck me this is dull.
Yeah but we great for the first 4 minutes.
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Fair play to Westwood there.
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To be fair Westwood did really well there
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Excellent tracking by Westwood.
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great play from Westwood then.
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Bloody hell Westwood, that was...good...
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Best thing he's ever done
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To be fair admirable recovery from Westwood there.
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Good from Westwood there.
Both initial cross and the chase back. About bleedin' time.
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Westwood covered a lot of Ground there.
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Ah fair play Westwood. Good man for tracking back.
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Driftwood does a thing and we all pick ourselves off the floor.
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Good play from Westwood after his shit cross led to the counter attack. It was the least he could do to win it back.
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Leeds are shit today, we should be walking this...
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I want Westwood to do well. Maybe me praising him is sort of over compensating for everything else.
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Come on now boys. Good cross from the free kick
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God I love Chester.
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To be fair Westwood did really well there
Yes, had to cover for Jedi. Thats why its a liability playing Jedi high. He is super playing as sitting MC anchoring back 4. Not as a regular MC playmaker. Too slow and not that great passing.
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Close from Chester. Great cross by Amavi
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Close.
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Quality ball in from Amavi and Chester unlucky.
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Fabulous cross from Amavi.
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Unlucky Chester, Managed to direct that while holding off two defenders.
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God I love Chester.
Great city
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Close from Chester. Great cross by Amavi
Indeed. Right now that's the only way I can see us scoring, either from a corner or free kick.
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First I've heard of the Steven Gerrard thing...
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Was that Bruce shouting there? Didn't seem very happy!
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We really should be winning this game, i have worries.
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First I've heard of the Steven Gerrard thing...
Me too. Don't think I saw anything on here about it?
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Well played Ayew
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Fuck Leeds are so massively average that any semblance of skill should be enough to beat them. We should be better than this.
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WTF Amavi!
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Fuck Leeds are so massively average that any semblance of skill should be enough to beat them. We should be better than this.
I'm struggling to think of any chances we've created though, worryingly.
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Have we definitely rejected that £25m offer?...
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Some sloppy shit here.
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What position is Grealish playing? He's not doing much of anything.
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Grealish has been disappointing so far. This is the kind of game he should be dominating with the amount of possession we've had in their half.
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I think Grealish is playing #10 but it seems to me he's not seeing any of the ball there so keeps dropping deeper.
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Grealish started well but is fading into obscurity again...getting no balls from midfield but he is pisspoor at applying pressure have to be said.
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From the halfway line to the 18 yard line we are so short of pace and quality.
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You dirty fucking ******
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stop.
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Abysmal Half of Non football.
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If only Jack had the{calbre of) players around him Sir Brian had.
Altered
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What a raggedy outfit we are.
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Why does no one try to burst a gut to get forward?
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That was our bad half.
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Ah Kodjia. Really unlucky! Good to watch!
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The commentator just used the words " rip roaring first half "
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Dropped off and need to pick it up in the second half. Grealish needs to have much more of an influence.
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A bit of a slow burner...commentator speak for that was total Shite!
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Well I enjoyed it. I thought we looked the far better team.
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Um.
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I don't know what you guys are watching. I think we are absolutely dominating the game, just missing the end product at the moment. I am pretty confident we'll see this out.
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Leeds were pretty slack at times, shame we haven't made them pay for it.
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Played okay overall but a real lack of quality once we're in the final third. Need more from Jack and Ayew. On the plus side we've dominated the most in form side in the division, we just need a cutting edge. Surprised that Leeds look they've come for a point.
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The commentator just used the words " rip roaring first half "
So did I. I said, "rip roaring first half my arse!"
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Look ok but need more numbers in the box. Solid and well on top
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Surprised Kodja wasn't supported more,can only assume it's tactical
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Jack looks like he's struggling after that injury. Take him off, put Albert on and move Ayew into the centre.
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Come on football gods. We need our slice of
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The commentator just used the words " rip roaring first half "
Mine said "that a was a half of football that won't live long in the life of memories".
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Funny how different people see a game differently. Tonight is the first game I've seen where I've been properly fucked off that we're in this shit league making hard work of seeing off absolute dross like Leeds fucking United. They need to come out second half like they did the first but actually score a goal rather than flatter to deceive.
That we've been the better side should be a given.
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Not sure what our shape should be, but it's not really working, no balance. We should have constant pressure on Leeds. I'd like to see a simple 442, but that needs two good centre mids, and we don't currently have one.
Leeds haven't offered much though. We should win this at a canter.
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Surprised Kodja wasn't supported more,can only assume it's tactical
Tactical not to get anybody else in the box? Same old tactics then. We huff and puff but the Leeds defence have presented us with more opportunities than our midfield.
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Not bad. Good tempo, particularly in the first 20 minutes. We've not created enough out of the dominence though, but that's nothing new this season. Grealish needs to up his game today. He's playing in 2nd gear. Everything is a little lackadaisical with him tonight. If he's carrying an injury get him off.
Most surprising moment of the half was Westwood tracking a runner back, matching him for pace and sliding to the ball and clearing it for a throw-in. Astonishing moment.
I'd like to see Adomah on as he links well with Kodjia and he creates chances.
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Leeds have been no threat do far so it's a pity that we haven't converted our superiority into a lead. Might regret that😟
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It feels like we're banking on Leeds tiring after they named a virtually unchanged team. The early press dropped off pretty sharpish, hopefully we're saving it for the 2nd half.
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The commentator just used the words " rip roaring first half "
Mine said "that a was a half of football that won't live long in the life of memories".
You have your own commentator?
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The commentator just used the words " rip roaring first half "
Mine said "that a was a half of football that won't live long in the life of memories".
You have your own commentator?
Yup. He screams every 5 minutes to make sure I haven't fallen asleep.
Great opening 4 minutes, best of the season but we never captured that momentum again.
The other point is why do we keep banging the ball up front when we have a team of midgets?
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We really need to win this
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Surprised Kodja wasn't supported more,can only assume it's tactical
Tactical not to get anybody else in the box? Same old tactics then. We huff and puff but the Leeds defence have presented us with more opportunities than our midfield.
Yeah,we're not proficient enough at the
catenaccio or hidegouti styles
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According to sky stats they had more possession than us, eh? How does that work? We weren't great but I'm sure we'd had more of he ball than them!
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It means they passed it across their back 4 more than we did.
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McCormack to come on and prove decisive
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Seems jack is better as an impact sub.
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Watch our first 5 min again if you have the chance. 3 times they are pressed silly and in disarray..and every bleeding time the situation is solved for them by Westwood passing it back or out. Just fucking grow a pair send towards goal and let it play out in the box! Its so frustrating!!
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Can't see this going beyond the hour without changes being made.
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We can bring McCormack on but we don't have anyone who can get it to him.
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Aren't you supposed to get booked for diving?
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Surprised Kodja wasn't supported more,can only assume it's tactical
Tactical not to get anybody else in the box? Same old tactics then. We huff and puff but the Leeds defence have presented us with more opportunities than our midfield.
Yeah,we're not proficient enough at the catenaccio or hidegouti styles
Ha! Right now I'd willingly accept pass and bloody move.
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Ross on for dead leg Jack.
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Happy to see mccormack on.
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Come on Ross!
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McCormack on for Grealish.
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Can't see this going beyond the hour without changes being made.
3 minutes.
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Come on Ross get a goal.
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McCormack looks sharp.
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Need a bit of luck and a goal here
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Hutton ...another poor delivery when needed
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Wankers
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Arse.
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WTF
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Ffs sucker punch
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Fuck right off
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Fucks sake
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Piss arse
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You're fucking kidding me!
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There you go.
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I guess we've conceded then!
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Shot defending shit keeping
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For fucks sake. Good work Bunn.
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FFS, load of absolute shite
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Some things really never change do they?
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I knew they were going to score from that
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Useless fucking wankers.
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Oh fuck off. Jus fuck right off. They deserve jack fucking shit.
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Shit keeping...
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Looked like Bunn should have done better.
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For fucks sake Villa..
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fuck off. seriously, just fuck off.
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That ****** as well.
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Terrible goalkeeping, he should not be a starting goalkeeper.
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But I thought Leeds are absolutely shit...?
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Oh fuck off. Jus fuck right off. They deserve jack fucking shit.
We've had half chances not really scared them have we?
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Fucking useless ******, nearly 2-0, off the bar
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But I thought Leeds are absolutely shit...?
They are. Do you think otherwise?
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We must have fucked up 30 times since last opposition balls up
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I hate Leeds. Terrible fucking defending again.
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Hit and a half by their bloke.
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What the fuck is going on We've totally switched off
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Hutton ...another poor delivery when needed
Abysmal time and time again when well placed
Nearly 2-0 , Jansson destroying us on set pieces again
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If we had not allowed someone a free header the keeper wouldn't be at risk. Who was supposed to be picking him up, Hutton ?
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Sort it out Villa. We've fallen apart completely here.
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Pontus Jansson is the best defender Sweden produced since Olof Mellberg. On loan from Torino to Leeds with option to buy. They are nuts if they dont. Suggested we do in the transfer thread... Wishful thinking. We got Elphick...
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We'ee not getting back in this. Shocking second half.
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We're going to lose by 2 or 3 I reckon
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If we had not allowed someone a free header the keeper wouldn't be at risk. Who was supposed to be picking him up, Hutton ?
The very man who caused their break in the firts place by messing up our attack.
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We've gone to utter shit since the goal.
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shit keeper got to blame him again
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surely this is Hutton's last stand?
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We've gone to utter shit since the goal.
done fuck all after the 10 mins bar the odd half chance.
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We are shit and this lot of boners are about do the double over us and ruin my match thread win streak.
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Ayew on the wing is a waste. And Leeds break from midfield with pace and purpose, ours just hoof it.
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Surely time for gestede and adomha
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Kodija you prat
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Hutton is fucking terrible. Bunn is a shambles as well.
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This is lost.
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Has Hutton EVER out a decent ball in?
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Fucking ******, get Ayew in the middle, he's done fuck all again from out wide, waste of time again. Hutton wanker. Westwood wanker, Bacuna anonymous.
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Bunn couldn't handle his own cock either the twat.
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Another hour or so of my life I'm never going to get back.
Kodjia is absolutely head and shoulders above anything out there tonight, quite what anyone sees in Ayew I do not know.
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It's been lethargic and pointless from us for much of the game.
It's boring criticising the same old culprits. As soon as I see them in the lineup, I know it isn't going to be a good game of football.
Come on Villa
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Why is Westwood?
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Ayew is SO pondersome on the ball. He takes 3 touches too many nearly every time.
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I predict Chris Woods is going to score the next goal
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Any changes Bruce?
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Fuck off Ross you ******
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Why is Westwood?
Still on the pitch ?
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what the fk was that?
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Westwood hasnt done too bad. Jedinak wins ball well but gives it away too often
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Albert coming on, I assume for Ayew.
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an attacking full back adds to the pressure on the opposition...
could somebody tell Hutton that?
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Our midfield is just woeful
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so did we touch the ball again with that awful Hutton delivery before Leeds scored.
The bloke is suppose to be a professional footballer who trains every day yet his final ball is absolute wank .fucking park standard. If we had a rB with a final ball we wouldnt be so shit
and a park goalie
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Typical villa,all fart and no shit.
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If we had not allowed someone a free header the keeper wouldn't be at risk. Who was supposed to be picking him up, Hutton ?
Think it was Baker (not Hutton)
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I predict Chris Woods is going to score the next goal
My money's on Chris Whyte.
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Our midfield is just woeful
No it isn't. It's non existent.
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Why is Westwood?
I know he is our usual scapegoat but he is playing in midfield by himself tonight . I know Jedinak is playing but had he touched the ball second half ?
Bacuna to RB and Adamoah on
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If we don't go up who is going to buy kodja?
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Hooooooooof
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Shocking.
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We aren't going up this season.
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I hate to see us fall apart like this after we concede. So frustrating.
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Come on Bruce make a change fucks sake.
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I hate losing at home
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Eye bleeding football.
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Fortress Villa Park, normal service resumed.
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I hate losing at home
To these scumbags as well.
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Can't stomach this shit. Will check score later.
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McCormack doing well, Ayew useless
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This horrible phase of the match when we've run out of ideas and just lump it forward.
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Aimless rubbish.
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Jedinak has been shit, the way he was mugged off in the run up to their goal was embarrassing. Hutton is so frustrating, makes some great runs to get into really good attacking positions and then puts in truly awful crosses.
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This horrible phase of the match when we've run out of ideas and just lump it forward.
We ran out after 15 mins
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Get Ayew off. He has been crap. Again.
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Fair play McCormack. I appreciate him battling at least.
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Is this somehow going to be another of those bullshit games we steal a point near the death like a snowflake's chance in hades?
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Please please take Westwood off, just please
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This horrible phase of the match when we've run out of ideas and just lump it forward.
We ran out after 15 mins
Ugh. I think you're right. I don't even want to raise it really but it makes me want to know what we do in training. What's the plan here?
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FFS
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Is this somehow going to be another of those bullshit games we steal a point near the death like a snowflake's chance in hades?
Bloody hope so. If we do its going to be Kodja who does it.
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Woeful, just awful.
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Ayew is a festering turd, useless, I'd rather we had 11 Westwood's.
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Ayew off thank christ
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Sensible subs tbf.
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westwood stays on
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Gestede coming on confirms we're going to hoof it.
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This horrible phase of the match when we've run out of ideas and just lump it forward.
We ran out after 15 mins
Ugh. I think you're right. I don't even want to raise it really but it makes me want to know what we do in training. What's the plan here?
Same question so from the last 10 years
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Bunn has done okay since the goal.
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Bunn did well. We were cut open again. Leeds the better side here.
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Laughable... when you ain't got a clue a lampost will do.
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This horrible phase of the match when we've run out of ideas and just lump it forward.
We ran out after 15 mins
Ugh. I think you're right. I don't even want to raise it really but it makes me want to know what we do in training. What's the plan here?
Same question so from the last 10 years
Again, touché.
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Westwood would survive a nuclear explosion.
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Here we go.
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Subs should have been made 15 minutes ago.
Fucking Gestede-I hate his same old, slow motion jog onto the pitch when he comes on. Get some urgency into you, you fucking Ent. We need goals.
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Sensible subs tbf.
10 minutes too late?
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I've been watching for 10 mins and I don't think we've put more than 2 passes together.
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Actually some good changes...assuming Bacuna is moved mid now with Westwood. We are weaker mid but more mobile. And we have to score anyway.
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Rudy's gonna score I can feel it
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Westwood would survive a nuclear explosion.
I'd like to see that put to the test.
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Weird gut feeling we're going to score.*
*gut feeling based on no evidence whatsoever.
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Ayew and Jedinak were both far worse than Westwood today so why would he be taken off instead of them?
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Amavi has been terrible.
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Rudy's gonna score I can feel it
He cant fail. So I hear. :)
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We've never looked like scoring here really.
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Leeds desire level is 100× ours.Desire.
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oem
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pen
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Fucking score this villa
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I'm sick of swearing at the TV - I should have stuck with watching the Arrers
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Penalty!
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In!!!!!!!!
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Get, as they say in....
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YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
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yyeessssss
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Now win this villa!
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YEASHSHSHSHSH!!!!!!!
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Good penalty, how the fuck did the ref not see it though?
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yes!
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get in!
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Right, let's win this!
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good pen that
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Get in now fucking win.
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Fuck off jansson you dirty ******. Yyeeeesssssssssss
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Come on Villa!!
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YESSSS! Get in!
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We are going to somehow score another based on my gut instinct.*
*gut instinct based on no evidence whatsoever.
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Holy fuck
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25M???? Fuck off.
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Overtime winner is our new thing! 3 points Villa! You can do it!
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wtf
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WTF Amavi!
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Fair play to linesman, ref must have been 20 metres closer and missed it. Fuck me, Amavi ..25m to Liverpool
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Amavi has had an absolute shocker tonight.
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How in gods green earth did Leeds not score then.
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Fucking hell Amavi you are lucky.
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Holy hell, get that crossbar a squad number.
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Fucking hell Bruce take the £25m...
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FFS!
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klopp just put his money back in his pocket
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Also Janssen was manhandling the ref after.Should have been sent off.
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25m my absolute arse
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ok a point is fine....after watching that.
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What a let off, terrible from Amavi again.
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Any doubt fucking twat it upfield or out of play, never fuck around like that. Thank fuck Ronnie Rosenthal still hangs around VP.
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RDM must look at Steve Bruce and think why the fuck do you get all the luck?
It keeps on happening. A goal our performance doesn't really deserve
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Fucking fuckidy. Villa do take years off your life. Amavi man, wow.
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We've been bollocks since we scored.
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£25M ? lool
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North Stand crossbar named MOTM.
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We haven't had a kick since the goal.
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Fuck me I thought we'd won it
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thought we had won it then
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Close there kodjia
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What the fuck is going on????
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Another fucking sitter
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Rob Green you lucky bastard.
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What the fuck are the defence doing? Fucking hell
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I so much wanted to win but I'll take a point right now
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Fucking hell Kod.
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good finish
easily have lost too
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Kod is a very wasteful striker for all his talent.
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What was that booking for?
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Twice now McCormack had made the run and was a shoe-in to score if Kodjia had only squared it.
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RMC had a rotten season but honestly...he had 2 certain goals denied by Kodjia wanting to do it all alone.
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Kod is a very wasteful striker for all his talent.
Very greedy. Tried to shoot a few times tonight where a pass would have been better.
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How is that a foul?
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wtf rudy
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Fuck right off ref you effing twirl
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Relieved. Still unbeaten at home.
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Fair result overall. Fuck me i'm too old for last 15 mins like that!
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That was a big let off, we were lucky to get anything out of it.
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I'll take the point after sitting through that!
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I'm not sure we deserved that point, but very grateful for it. We have to improve if we've got eyes on the playoff spots.
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Kod is a very wasteful striker for all his talent.
Very greedy. Tried to shoot a few times tonight where a pass would have been better.
Virtually every game he misses at least one sitter and costs us at least one goal by failing to make a simple pass. Those all add up.
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Fucking hell give me an easy 90mins!!
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Bloody hell.
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Disappointed to be happy with the point
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Fair result although some of our defending was shocking. Got a horrible feeling we're going to get called out one day and be on the end of a hammering.
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Happy with that point...just Cardiff to go then Dr Tony can open his wallet again and buy us a midfield.
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Does the transfer window not open till Jan 3 then? If I were SB I'd want to be on the phone at the first bong of midnight...
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Does the transfer window not open till Jan 3 then? If I were SB I'd want to be on the phone at the first bong of midnight...
Is he seeing in the new year at Jack's house?