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Title: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on December 14, 2016, 10:40:10 AM: Sky Bet Championship
Sunday December 18
Kick-off: 12 noon
Loftus Road

Since some people are already using other threads to suggest lineups, we'd better have a thread
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on December 14, 2016, 10:46:23 AM: Too early this!
Too early for kick off.
Too early to start a thread after last night.
I really don't know what to make of this match now.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on December 14, 2016, 10:46:54 AM: Goalkeeprini

McCafu
Chester (back as captain please)
Mad Tom (unless Baker is fit)
Amavi

Tish
Jedi
Leo

Jack
Kodj
AA

Sarkic (How old is he? Twelve? What's happened to Bunn?)
Aly
Ross
Rudy
GG
The Russian or Ayew
Some defender from the U23s
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Gareth on December 14, 2016, 11:20:14 AM: Will add mine in here too;

For Sunday hope Baker is fit then I'd do for;

Gollini
Bacuna Chester Baker Amavi
Jedinak Tshibola
Gardner
Grealish McCormack
Kodjia

Sarkic
Cissokho
Gestede
RHM
Hutton
Hale
Ayew

Got to get energy & strength into centre midfield, we started well under Bruce with 3 in centre and need to back to that until he can buy a player to go alongside Jedinak who is better than what we have. Have included Hale on the bench as the couple of games I've seen him in he seem up for fight, also Lyden not yet fit to include. Hutton, Cissohko & Ayew get seats by default for me, hopefully all 3 will be gone alongside Westwood & Gabby soon.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: TaxDodger on December 14, 2016, 11:29:45 AM: Gollini

Bacuna Chester Baker Amavi

Jedinak Tshibola

Grealish McCormack Adomah

Kodja

Sarkic, Elphick, Hutton, Westwood, Ayew, Gestede, Hepburn-Murphy
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Gareth on December 14, 2016, 11:38:36 AM: I forgot Adomah from mine :-)
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on December 14, 2016, 11:53:30 AM: When did we last beat QPR at Loftus Road?

Just seems like Selhurst Park a ground we never win at.

1-1.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: QuintonVilla on December 14, 2016, 11:54:52 AM: 0-0

We're the third lowest scorers in the league and we just don't do away wins. Add QPR to the list of crap teams in this league we can't beat.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: DeKuip on December 14, 2016, 12:07:36 PM: Keeper & back four will be the same as there's no alternatives.
Bacuna did well last time he started in midfield at Reading so put him in with Jedinak and Tishbola, then up front it has to be time to give Hepburn-Murphy his chance.
Pair him up with McCormack or Gestede and leave Grealish in a free role behind them.
Kodjia and Ayew have to be dropped, sold in Ayew's case.
It doesn't give us much width but I don't see how we can play the system we have been playing when we don't have anyone who can play as a lone centre-forward.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on December 14, 2016, 12:21:36 PM: I am confident that they will have been given a rocket after last night and we will see a better performance as a result. The team will not the same.

Away win 2-0 and we all have a merry Christmas basking in the reflected glory.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Oscar Arce on December 14, 2016, 12:28:18 PM: Bruce has said he'll make changes.
I fully expect that Ayew, Grealish, Westwood (aka the Invisible man) Elphick and Agbonlahor will be dropped.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: ironmaidenmania on December 14, 2016, 12:34:25 PM: Gollini
Hutton
Elphick
Chester
Amavi
Adomah
Jedi
Tish
Grealish
Kodjia
RHM

442 formation.

Still lose but might have some extra bite.

2-1 QPR
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Bad English on December 14, 2016, 12:34:59 PM: QPR 0 Aston Villa 2 (RHM 67, Grealish 83).

A warrior-like reaction to recent setbacks, 80℅ possession, QPR played off the park, 3 solid points and there's no place like home, there's no place like home, there's no place like home...
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 14, 2016, 12:42:27 PM: Quote from: SoccerHQ on December 14, 2016, 11:53:30 AM
When did we last beat QPR at Loftus Road?

Just seems like Selhurst Park a ground we never win at.

1-1.

Nov 1991, 1-0 Yorke scored. Our only other wins there against QPR in about 24 visits were August 1977 and December 1985.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on December 14, 2016, 12:45:58 PM: The Football League’s desperate attempt to make us return even a single ticket for an away match takes us to West London on the Sunday before Christmas for yet another TV appearance. This is another ground we’ve been to plenty of times, it’s got no better since the last one and in fact there hasn’t been much change since the first time we went there apart from the prices going up, and up, and up. You still can’t see one of the goals from most of the seats upstairs and you still have to walk halfway round the ground when you find your ticket’s for the other part to the one where you’ve been queuing for the past fifteen minutes. They’ve had an assortment of ultra-rich directors and owners over the years, much good it’s done them, and were guilty of breaking the FFP rules two seasons ago but they still haven’t been punished. Ian Holloway is now their manager and the least said on that publicity-hungry subject the better.

By now the table should start to be looking a bit more realistic and although a draw would be good, this is the sort of place that we should be going to and getting three points if we want to be looking to get promoted. The fact that Ian Holloway will almost certainly be saying something dead controversial and outspoken in the days before the match will make winning even better.

Things newfooty fans won’t know: Why QPR used to be on Match of the Day so often. They also won’t have any idea about how many matches used to be on Match of the Day. It’s a different world now.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: LukeJames on December 14, 2016, 12:57:15 PM: 2-0 QPR, 0-0 at jalf time with both teams offering nothing, a mistake by Elphick in the 67th minute puts them 1-0 up, we lethargically pass the ball around midfield and defence for 25 minutes without looking to really penetrate there defence and then they wrap it up in injury time making the most of a short back by Jedinak.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on December 14, 2016, 01:04:34 PM: Quote from: dave.woodhall on December 14, 2016, 12:45:58 PM
Ian Holloway is now their manager and the least said on that publicity-hungry subject the better.

Even though I may be biased because Ollie speaks proper English like me ;) I've always thought that he was a perfectly decent bloke
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on December 14, 2016, 01:12:17 PM: Glad we got rid of the stupid "Score draw" and "Bore draw" options.

I've now been able to select "Draw", just as I did against Wigan, so we are going to win.

No need to thank me.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on December 14, 2016, 01:30:06 PM: Two things are against us - and subject to Aston Villaisms.

1. It is on TV.
2. It will be one of those 'you're playing Aston Villa so it's get your season back on track week'.

1-0 QPR.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Malandro on December 14, 2016, 01:35:37 PM: I'd have Green and Hepburn-Murphy on the bench and I'd use them.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on December 14, 2016, 01:45:41 PM: Is Baker still injured, could do with him coming in for Elphick?
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on December 14, 2016, 02:19:48 PM: Quote from: TheMalandro on December 14, 2016, 01:35:37 PM
I'd have Green and Hepburn-Murphy on the bench and I'd use them.

yep, we cant keep looking at the same sh*te from the same players. there isnt a single one of the forward four from last night that deserves to keep their place nor Westwood but unfortunately its likely some inevitably will. Granted Loftus Road if I recall is a very tight pitch so lads need to be able to hold their own physical against these.

--------------Gollini
Bacuna, Chester, Baker, Amavi
Adamoah, Jedinak, Tshibola, Grealish
--------McCormack, Kodjia
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Cologne_Lion on December 14, 2016, 02:29:15 PM: We didn't lose the last home games against them, i'm quite optimistic: 2:0 Villa!
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Dave P on December 14, 2016, 02:46:28 PM: Last win there was 2003/04 but that was against Fulham.

Draw 1-1 on Sunday.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Cologne_Lion on December 14, 2016, 02:51:26 PM: Damn, it's an away match. What's going on in my head? :o Tough one.. But still think we can get the win.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: oswald funkletrumpet on December 14, 2016, 03:54:49 PM: Gollini
hutton baker chester cissoko
Bacuna tshibola jedi amavi
Ross kodija
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Des Little on December 14, 2016, 03:56:07 PM: All I hope is that Abgonlahor isn't anywhere near Shepherds Bush come noon on Sunday.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: avfcpg on December 14, 2016, 04:11:25 PM: Gollini
Hutton - Baker - Chester - Amavi
Jedinak
Bacuna - Tshibola
Adomah Ayew or Grealish
Kodija

But it's on TV so we know what to expect....
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Deano's Mullet on December 14, 2016, 04:32:41 PM: Bruce is too savvy not to make changes after getting wrong. I think we'll be miles better in selection and application. 2-1 villa
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on December 14, 2016, 05:12:52 PM: At least we'll have an extra day's rest/training on them. They are at home tonight to the unstoppable Derby County.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: He wears a magic hat on December 14, 2016, 05:13:35 PM: Quote from: avfcpg on December 14, 2016, 04:11:25 PM
Gollini
Hutton - Baker - Chester - Amavi
Jedinak
Bacuna - Tshibola
Adomah Ayew or Grealish
Kodija

But it's on TV so we know what to expect....

This for me as well
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: manic-road on December 14, 2016, 06:00:49 PM: We have to bounce back and win this. I'm sure Bruce will give them a rocket so I hope for a 3-0 win.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: CJ on December 14, 2016, 07:23:01 PM: If Westwood and Flabby are in the team we lose; leave them out and we win. Hopefully Bruce will see the folly of last night's debacle and pick a more balanced and threatening team to stick it to the half-arsed manager who used to be famous.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Nelson Lodge on December 14, 2016, 07:50:25 PM: After last night not expecting a better result. Especially if there is another inept and unbalanced team election by SB.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on December 14, 2016, 09:39:28 PM: QPR have just lost for the 4th game in a row. Current form is W1 D1 L6. Guess we know what happens next!
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: adrenachrome on December 14, 2016, 09:46:09 PM: We are the re-animators.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on December 14, 2016, 10:53:28 PM: As it's just down the Uxbridge Road for me, I'm making an appearance at this one. I therefore think that I ought to pick the team.

Gollini
Bacuna Baker (hopefully) Chester Amavi

Tshibola Jedinak Westwood

Grealish

McCormack Kodjia
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on December 14, 2016, 10:59:21 PM: Quote from: ADVILLAFAN on December 14, 2016, 01:45:41 PM
Is Baker still injured

Does the Pope shit in the woods?
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on December 14, 2016, 11:23:08 PM: Quote from: cdbullyweefan on December 14, 2016, 10:59:21 PM
Quote from: ADVILLAFAN on December 14, 2016, 01:45:41 PM
Is Baker still injured

Does the Pope shit in the woods?
No but bears do wear funny hats.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: aj2k77 on December 15, 2016, 12:10:54 AM: No Westwank, no blob, get Bacuna and Tish in to give the midfield some running and energy. No 4 attackers.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: dave17 on December 15, 2016, 12:58:11 AM: https://www.whoscored.com/Teams/24

The villa page on the stats website is quite interesting. Confirms in terms of end product the lack of delivery from the usual suspects. The lack of through balls etc from some of the forward players is interesting
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Witton Warrior on December 15, 2016, 08:05:24 AM: Don't QPR fans hate us for some bizarre reason (wrecked their ground in the 70's or something?) - so a decent spiky atmosphere to act as a foil for the dross on the pitch...
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on December 15, 2016, 08:36:47 AM: Quote from: Witton Warrior on December 15, 2016, 08:05:24 AM
Don't QPR fans hate us for some bizarre reason (wrecked their ground in the 70's or something?) - so a decent spiky atmosphere to act as a foil for the dross on the pitch...

But their ground is a dump? Nothing to wreck.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on December 15, 2016, 08:54:43 AM: Quote from: Witton Warrior on December 15, 2016, 08:05:24 AM
Don't QPR fans hate us for some bizarre reason (wrecked their ground in the 70's or something?) - so a decent spiky atmosphere to act as a foil for the dross on the pitch...

I've been there a few times and not really noticed any animosity towards us. Brett Holman scored for us last time I went. Whatever happened to him?
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on December 15, 2016, 09:11:34 AM: To be fair, their greatest moment involved beating West Brom in the 1967 League Cup Final after knocking SHA out in the semis. No animosity from me.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: passport1 on December 15, 2016, 09:34:38 AM: Quote from: Sexual Ealing on December 14, 2016, 10:53:28 PM
As it's just down the Uxbridge Road for me, I'm making an appearance at this one. I therefore think that I ought to pick the team.

Gollini
Bacuna Baker (hopefully) Chester Amavi

Tshibola Jedinak Westwood

Grealish

McCormack Kodjia

I don't envy SB picking a team from that lot.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: barossavilla on December 15, 2016, 09:39:02 AM: I've been there a few times and not really noticed any animosity towards us. Brett Holman scored for us last time I went. Whatever happened to him?

Brisbane Roar...Yes you guessed it, out injured
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: footyskillz on December 15, 2016, 10:22:07 AM: Out: Westwood, Agbonlahor, kodjia , Ayew.
In: tishobla , bacuna, McCormack and adomah ..

0-2 villa
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: garyshawsknee on December 15, 2016, 11:47:57 AM: SB says there will be changes, so will be interesting to see if he throws any youth in. Hutton, Westwood, Gabby, Gestede should be nowhere near the starting line up. Tshibola, Bacuna, Green and RHM should all be given a chance.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Lobsterboy on December 15, 2016, 11:59:56 AM: I've gone for a 1-0 Villa win and fancy McCormack to score

Injury and illness permitting would like to see us go with Gollini, Bacuna, Baker, Chester, Amavi, Jedinak, Gardner, Tshibola, Adomah, McCormack, Kodjia

Subs - Sarkic, Elphick, Green, RHM, Gestede, Cissokho, Ayew
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Villatillidie25 on December 15, 2016, 12:10:55 PM: i think i would go with the following
Gollini
Bacuna, Elphick, Chester, Amavi
Jedinak
Gardner, Tshibola
Adomah Grealish
Kodjia

the only alternative would be to bring Ross in for Gardner and push him a little closer to Kodjia. In reality, it will be the normal back 5, Jedinak, Gardner, Westwood, Adomah, Kodjia, Gestede
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on December 15, 2016, 12:11:37 PM: I hope Bruce had the useless fuckers out at BMH at 6am on Wednesday.

My QPR-supporting friend says they are excited about breaking their 4-match losing streak. Their last win was v Norwich FFS!
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Jimbo on December 15, 2016, 12:23:17 PM: Routine away defeat, and more traditional festive gift-giving by the most generous club on planet earth.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: ozzjim on December 15, 2016, 12:25:51 PM: 3-5-2 for me. Gollini, Elphick, Chester, Cissokho (natural left sided defender and has a bit of height), Adomah, Amavi, Jedinak, Tshibola, Grealish, McCormack, Kodjia
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Richard on December 15, 2016, 01:27:30 PM: Not a bad shout ozzjim but I don't think it will happen.

Have a feeling we will win anyway 1-0.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: KevinGage on December 15, 2016, 01:41:18 PM: Quote from: Jimbo on December 15, 2016, 12:23:17 PM
Routine away defeat, and more traditional festive gift-giving by the most generous club on planet earth.

It's what we do best.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: darren woolley on December 15, 2016, 02:31:20 PM: We are away so I'm going to go 1-1 draw.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: greenwichvilla on December 15, 2016, 02:32:07 PM: Quote from: dave.woodhall on December 14, 2016, 12:45:58 PM

Things newfooty fans won’t know: Why QPR used to be on Match of the Day so often. They also won’t have any idea about how many matches used to be on Match of the Day. It’s a different world now.

Is it cause it's the nearest ground to TV Centre?
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Skerra on December 15, 2016, 02:52:07 PM: As we all know, although we would like a win, sadly, QPR haven't won since God's dog was born so, routine win for QPR to get them back on track. Let's be brutally honest, if a team needs to get out of a losing streak is there any better team to play other than us??
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: in exile on December 15, 2016, 03:21:01 PM: I can't vote. I have not already voted so is the poll locked?
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: mamuu on December 15, 2016, 05:15:46 PM: is that pub still outside the away end ? The Springbok ?
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: andyh on December 15, 2016, 06:10:27 PM: Bruce says there will be changes for this game.
We have seen before following a defeat, lots of stuff said in anger, and the next game the same players are given (yet) another chance.

Let's hope Bruce is true to his word.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: West Derby Villan on December 15, 2016, 06:19:54 PM: 1-1 Hutton
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: four fornicholl on December 15, 2016, 06:36:16 PM: Quote from: Wes Derby Villan on December 15, 2016, 06:19:54 PM
1-1 Hutton
Nailed on :o
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on December 15, 2016, 07:58:00 PM: Really fancy us here.

3-1 Villa with a rally tenacious performance too. Press the living shit out of them and hit then with quality, particularly out wide.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Alex77 on December 15, 2016, 08:26:22 PM: Quote from: Ads on December 15, 2016, 07:58:00 PM
Really fancy us here.

3-1 Villa with a rally tenacious performance too. Press the living shit out of them and hit then with quality, particularly out wide.

I'd agree with this. There has got to be some sort of reaction to that pathetic performance. If there isn't I fear that I might enter the same apathetic levels of interest as last year.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: KevinGage on December 15, 2016, 10:45:37 PM: Tish and Bacuna either side of Jedinak. Kodija up top. Gabby dropped off at Mr Wu's all you can eat buffet = 2-1 Villa.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Perthvillan on December 16, 2016, 02:59:10 AM: Surely Bruce will see that we need changes after the crap at Norwich.
Our midfield is so unbelievably poor.
He must give Bacuna and Tish a game at least they run and get stuck in.
Also, what's happened to RHM?
There must be a couple of the youngsters that would offer more than we saw the other night.
0-0 if Bruce gets it sorted.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: avfcpg on December 16, 2016, 06:48:22 AM: Quote from: Ads on December 15, 2016, 07:58:00 PM
Really fancy us here.

3-1 Villa with a rally tenacious performance too. Press the living shit out of them and hit then with quality, particularly out wide.

I keep saying this but then I see the team sheet...on paper I fancy us to win every game in this league...then reality bites.
Hopefully he plays players in their proper positions and gives the midfield a change up with Bacuna or Tish or both in there. It can't be worse than Norwich.....can it?
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on December 16, 2016, 07:10:14 AM: I'm surprised Bacuna hasn't come back in. He played well at Reading, who are staggeringly somehow 3rd. He gives us energy and pace from midfield and he can score a goal or two.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: wittonwarrior on December 16, 2016, 08:10:30 AM: A must win game- aren't they all now. I can only see a score draw though
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on December 16, 2016, 09:39:42 AM: Quote from: in exile on December 15, 2016, 03:21:01 PM
I can't vote. I have not already voted so is the poll locked?

Putin has hacked H & V to try and influence the vote.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on December 16, 2016, 10:34:44 AM: Quote from: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on December 16, 2016, 09:39:42 AM
Quote from: in exile on December 15, 2016, 03:21:01 PM
I can't vote. I have not already voted so is the poll locked?

Putin has hacked H & V to try and influence the vote.

And just like in the US election the baddies are winning....
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: in exile on December 16, 2016, 11:24:17 AM: Quote from: ADVILLAFAN on December 16, 2016, 10:34:44 AM
Quote from: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on December 16, 2016, 09:39:42 AM
Quote from: in exile on December 15, 2016, 03:21:01 PM
I can't vote. I have not already voted so is the poll locked?

Putin has hacked H & V to try and influence the vote.

And just like in the US election the baddies are winning....

I know, this is serious shit!
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Tayls_7 on December 16, 2016, 12:28:39 PM: Quote from: KevinGage on December 15, 2016, 10:45:37 PM
Tish and Bacuna either side of Jedinak. Kodija up top. Gabby dropped off at Mr Wu's all you can eat buffet = 2-1 Villa.

What's Mr Wu done to U?

1-1. Westwood features. No Tshibola.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: martin o`who?? on December 16, 2016, 01:53:59 PM: Quote from: in exile on December 16, 2016, 11:24:17 AM
Quote from: ADVILLAFAN on December 16, 2016, 10:34:44 AM
Quote from: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on December 16, 2016, 09:39:42 AM
Quote from: in exile on December 15, 2016, 03:21:01 PM
I can't vote. I have not already voted so is the poll locked?

Putin has hacked H & V to try and influence the vote.

And just like in the US election the baddies are winning....

I know, this is serious shit!
It could be if they prove it....
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on December 16, 2016, 01:58:11 PM: Careful, we don't want to look into this in too much detail. We might find out that the Russians have screwed up their hacking, meaning that Mr Woodhall has actually been elected President of the United States
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on December 16, 2016, 02:07:36 PM: I'd go with this side, if everyone is available

Gollini
Hutton Chester Baker Amavi
Jedinak Bacuna
Adomah McCormack Grealish
Kodjia
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on December 16, 2016, 04:16:38 PM: It would be good to see our own Russian involved.

What was that (factually incorrect) from the 90's again... Why is Andrei Kanchelskis so fast? Cos he's always rushin'
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on December 16, 2016, 05:56:52 PM: Quote from: mamuu on December 15, 2016, 05:15:46 PM
is that pub still outside the away end ? The Springbok ?

I think it's closed down.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on December 16, 2016, 06:10:16 PM: Quote from: Sexual Ealing on December 16, 2016, 05:56:52 PM
Quote from: mamuu on December 15, 2016, 05:15:46 PM
is that pub still outside the away end ? The Springbok ?

I think it's closed down.

It's now called Queens Tavern. No away supporters.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: l_mckay on December 16, 2016, 06:28:46 PM: Still a tough game even though they are on a bad run. 1-1
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on December 16, 2016, 07:48:52 PM: lol Holloway. Very confident for this one. QPR start off with such a handicap having that buffoon in charge. 2 nil to us and we return to happy days :)
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: class-of-82 on December 16, 2016, 08:45:26 PM: my qpr mate tells me thT to access the lower tier you have to go up ellerslie road just off the Uxbridge road last time I went I went up South Africa road ???
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on December 16, 2016, 09:46:00 PM: Quote from: PaulTheVillan on December 16, 2016, 02:07:36 PM
I'd go with this side, if everyone is available

Gollini
Hutton Chester Baker Amavi
Jedinak Bacuna
Adomah McCormack Grealish
Kodjia

Don't think Bacuna could play in a midfield two
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: villan from luton on December 16, 2016, 09:55:55 PM: Any known pubs for Villa fans, I was hoping the springbok would still be open
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on December 16, 2016, 10:56:40 PM: Quote from: villan from luton on December 16, 2016, 09:55:55 PM
Any known pubs for Villa fans, I was hoping the springbok would still be open

I don't know for sure, but I think the Princess Victoria on the Uxbridge Road is both far enough from - and close enough to - the ground that it'd be ok.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: villan from luton on December 16, 2016, 10:59:58 PM: Quote from: Sexual Ealing on December 16, 2016, 10:56:40 PM
Quote from: villan from luton on December 16, 2016, 09:55:55 PM
Any known pubs for Villa fans, I was hoping the springbok would still be open

I don't know for sure, but I think the Princess Victoria on the Uxbridge Road is both far enough from - and close enough to - the ground that it'd be ok.

Is that near a tube, actually work in North London but useless with the tube
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on December 16, 2016, 11:53:37 PM: Quote from: villan from luton on December 16, 2016, 10:59:58 PM
Quote from: Sexual Ealing on December 16, 2016, 10:56:40 PM
Quote from: villan from luton on December 16, 2016, 09:55:55 PM
Any known pubs for Villa fans, I was hoping the springbok would still be open

I don't know for sure, but I think the Princess Victoria on the Uxbridge Road is both far enough from - and close enough to - the ground that it'd be ok.

Is that near a tube, actually work in North London but useless with the tube

Easier to take the 207 bus from Shepherds Bush/Shepherds Bush Market tubes (westbound) or Acton Town (eastbound). You'll probably have to walk for 5 mins to Uxbridge Road if you go to Acton.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on December 16, 2016, 11:54:06 PM: Quote from: villan from luton on December 16, 2016, 09:55:55 PM
Any known pubs for Villa fans, I was hoping the springbok would still be open

Is walkabout in Shepherds Bush still going? Spent a few epic Sundays there after a heavy early stint in the Church in Kentish Town a good few years back.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: villan from luton on December 16, 2016, 11:56:32 PM: Quote from: Sexual Ealing on December 16, 2016, 11:53:37 PM
Quote from: villan from luton on December 16, 2016, 10:59:58 PM
Quote from: Sexual Ealing on December 16, 2016, 10:56:40 PM
Quote from: villan from luton on December 16, 2016, 09:55:55 PM
Any known pubs for Villa fans, I was hoping the springbok would still be open

I don't know for sure, but I think the Princess Victoria on the Uxbridge Road is both far enough from - and close enough to - the ground that it'd be ok.

Is that near a tube, actually work in North London but useless with the tube

Easier to take the 207 bus from Shepherds Bush/Shepherds Bush Market tubes (westbound) or Acton Town (eastbound). You'll probably have to walk for 5 mins to Uxbridge Road if you go to Acton.

Cheers mate
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on December 17, 2016, 12:05:18 AM: Quote from: brontebilly on December 16, 2016, 11:54:06 PM
Quote from: villan from luton on December 16, 2016, 09:55:55 PM
Any known pubs for Villa fans, I was hoping the springbok would still be open

Is walkabout in Shepherds Bush still going? Spent a few epic Sundays there after a heavy early stint in the Church in Kentish Town a good few years back.

Nope. Defunct.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on December 17, 2016, 01:17:36 AM: Where do all the Aussies work then?
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Axl Rose on December 17, 2016, 06:03:23 AM: Quote from: Ads on December 17, 2016, 01:17:36 AM
Where do all the Aussies work then?

Phnom Penh. There were hundreds of them there.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on December 17, 2016, 10:35:50 AM: Quote from: Ads on December 17, 2016, 01:17:36 AM
Where do all the Aussies work then?

Macquarie
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: mamuu on December 17, 2016, 11:32:31 AM: Quote from: Rudy Can't Fail on December 16, 2016, 06:10:16 PM
Quote from: Sexual Ealing on December 16, 2016, 05:56:52 PM
Quote from: mamuu on December 15, 2016, 05:15:46 PM
is that pub still outside the away end ? The Springbok ?

I think it's closed down.

It's now called Queens Tavern. No away supporters.

thanks
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on December 17, 2016, 12:08:28 PM: Very good.

I'd go with Bacuna, Jedinak and Tshibola in midfield, Adomah and Grealish wide of Kodjia tomorrow.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on December 17, 2016, 12:21:52 PM: I'd go with what Ad's has said as well, although it wouldn't surprise me to see McCormack start.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Ads on December 17, 2016, 12:23:42 PM: We lack enegery and legs in midfield these past three games. Bacuna and Tshibola have pace to drive the game on and get advanced of the forwards. Bacuna did this well against Reading.

While Grealish and Adomah are both wingers. We crave a little balance.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: achilles on December 17, 2016, 05:04:59 PM: Quote from: Ads on December 17, 2016, 12:23:42 PM
We lack enegery and legs in midfield these past three games. Bacuna and Tshibola have pace to drive the game on and get advanced of the forwards. Bacuna did this well against Reading.

While Grealish and Adomah are both wingers. We crave a little balance.

Can you honestly say that Grealish is a winger as he has no pace and he will cut back inside?
I just want to see him driving into the penalty area, being more positive and not picking the ball off our back four which he has been doing the last couple of games.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on December 17, 2016, 05:14:18 PM: Grealish is a winger in the same sort of way as Hutton is a defender.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Mellin on December 17, 2016, 06:03:05 PM: Grealish, Tshibola and Jedinak in the middle. Bacuna right back. Adomah and Ayew on the wings. Kodjia up top. Not 100% happy with it, but feel it's the best we have.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Marton on December 17, 2016, 06:07:39 PM: Quote from: achilles on December 17, 2016, 05:04:59 PM
Quote from: Ads on December 17, 2016, 12:23:42 PM
We lack enegery and legs in midfield these past three games. Bacuna and Tshibola have pace to drive the game on and get advanced of the forwards. Bacuna did this well against Reading.

While Grealish and Adomah are both wingers. We crave a little balance.

Can you honestly say that Grealish is a winger as he has no pace and he will cut back inside?
I just want to see him driving into the penalty area, being more positive and not picking the ball off our back four which he has been doing the last couple of games.

While I think Grealish can be played both inside or out left , but Ads point is valid if you consider balance in our midfield. We already got a stationary (but strong) tower in Jedinak. While everyone agree Jedi is our most important player he is not very mobile and need 2 midfielders to give him time to position himself to break off attacks and start counters. Ideally those midfielders need to bring what Jedi lacks...that is primarily pace and mobility. Especially away (Leeds, Norwich) then Bruce makes the mistake by bringing one of those (Westwood) back and leaving Grealish alone in front like so:

Grealish

Jedinak Westwood

This resulted in 3 bad things for Villa

1) Westwood who hardly ever play the ball forward (21 passes in 90 min and only 5 forward at Norwich), kicks it left to Jedi or right to Hutton in our buildup...that effectively turn it back to the opposition.
2) Jedinak is slightly unbalanced to the right and can't give the even slower Elphick the extra time and cover he needs. Westwood is made of paper (1 challenge all game) and brings no help for Elphick or Hutton.
3) Grealish is left our sole midfield offensive playmaker...now despite all his talent he rarely combines to bring our forwards in play with one touch. He prefers to run at the defenders with the ball, something that might work coming from the side where he facing 1 or 2 defenders...but in the middle he got swarmed.

The remedy (though not perfect) might be playing him left where Ayew sometimes play (like Ad suggested). The other option is to use 2 cental mid infront of Jedi. Like this:

Grealish Bacuna

Jedinak

I prefer the idea Ads advocating with Grealish LF and someone like Gardner paired with Bacuna.. Then you can sub Grealish for Ayew and maybe RMC for Gardner without rearranging the entire formation. Bruce got this right in some of his earlier games I think (against Reading for sure) but have since then screwed up his own recipe. Bacuna who had some good games before his short injury spell have been left weltering his form on the bench in favor of Westwood (sigh). Ayew have sulked from being moved aside to accommodate Gabby, something that also seems to have impacted Kodjia.

Hopefully we get something from QPR. 1-1 ?
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: CJ on December 17, 2016, 06:46:59 PM: Big test for Bruce. Needs to make wholesale changes to the line up and get a performance out of whoever he picks. If Westwood or Flabby are in the starting lineup I'll break into a serious frown and start having the first seeds of doubt about him
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on December 17, 2016, 09:40:56 PM: Grealish isn't a winger but that doesn't mean he can't play wide

See pires, nasri, lallana etc
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: villan from luton on December 17, 2016, 09:46:49 PM: Anybody think that if Baker is fit he may go 3-5-2?

Adomah and Amavi would be decent wing backs, Jedinak and Bacuna in the middle with Jack in the hole and RabC and Kodjia up top.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on December 17, 2016, 10:29:08 PM: Dunno what West London is like but it's a proper pea souper round here tonight. Needs to clear up.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: oswald funkletrumpet on December 18, 2016, 08:40:25 AM: Quote from: villan from luton on December 17, 2016, 09:46:49 PM
Anybody think that if Baker is fit he may go 3-5-2?

Adomah and Amavi would be decent wing backs, Jedinak and Bacuna in the middle with Jack in the hole and RabC and Kodjia up top.

I hope not

Adomah is not a wing back

having said that he aint much of a winger eithei
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on December 18, 2016, 08:57:10 AM: Baker really impressed me in his run of games that coincided with us going on a good run, then 2 defeats in 3 without him. We looked really solid with him.

However, I'm not saying it's all down to him why we've looked shit against Leeds and Norwich, but I'd feel much happier with him in the team rather than Captain Calamity.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on December 18, 2016, 08:59:43 AM: Quote from: villan from luton on December 17, 2016, 09:46:49 PM
Anybody think that if Baker is fit he may go 3-5-2?

Adomah and Amavi would be decent wing backs, Jedinak and Bacuna in the middle with Jack in the hole and RabC and Kodjia up top.

No. Hopefully he'd drop Elphick and go back to the team that looked solid before Captain Calamity came in.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on December 18, 2016, 09:15:50 AM: Quote from: Chico Hamilton III on December 17, 2016, 10:29:08 PM
Dunno what West London is like but it's a proper pea souper round here tonight. Needs to clear up.

It's ok here. Closer to fish soup.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on December 18, 2016, 09:39:35 AM: Quote from: Chico Hamilton III on December 17, 2016, 10:29:08 PM
Dunno what West London is like but it's a proper pea souper round here tonight. Needs to clear up.

It's clear here in the Bush today. Yesterday, now that was a pea-souper in London

i'm currently undercover having breakfast in a home fans only Wetherspoons
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on December 18, 2016, 09:40:56 AM: from a QPR forum

Quote
Gunna be one heck of a hilarious game given our sky records. Its gunna be like what happens when the weakest force meets the easily moved object
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Smirker on December 18, 2016, 10:36:18 AM: Quote from: UK Redsox on December 18, 2016, 09:40:56 AM
from a QPR forum

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Gunna be one heck of a hilarious game given our sky records. Its gunna be like what happens when the weakest force meets the easily moved object

;D

But today we win.

3-1 Villa.

FTF
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: saunders_heroes on December 18, 2016, 10:42:34 AM: Quote from: oswald funkletrumpet on December 18, 2016, 08:40:25 AM
Quote from: villan from luton on December 17, 2016, 09:46:49 PM
Anybody think that if Baker is fit he may go 3-5-2?

Adomah and Amavi would be decent wing backs, Jedinak and Bacuna in the middle with Jack in the hole and RabC and Kodjia up top.

I hope not

Adomah is not a wing back

having said that he aint much of a winger eithei

Can't say he's impressed me much either. Tries to do too much and invariably runs into dead ends and loses the ball.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on December 18, 2016, 10:55:20 AM: I quite like Adomah. There's more to come from him i'm sure but I think he's been ok up to now.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: wittonwarrior on December 18, 2016, 11:00:17 AM: Come on the villa need some festive hope Enjoy all of you down there today.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on December 18, 2016, 11:02:13 AM: Looks like he's gone 4-4-2 with Kodjia and McCormack up front. Bacuna and Baker are back in. Gollini dropped as well.
Title: Re: QPR v Aston Villa - Pre Match Thread
Post by: andyh on December 18, 2016, 11:03:29 AM: So, no Tish in the squad again today.
What exactly is going on there?

Gabby and Westwood dropped to the bench, but when your only real option is to replace Westwood with Gardner, then you know we have real problems to resolve.