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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: PeterWithesShin on December 13, 2016, 06:53:22 PM
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Could you make that line up a little bit bigger PWS, I can't quite read it.
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Agfuckingbonlahor?
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As the actress said to me, that's a lot bigger than I expected!
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I forgot Mulumbu played for them, he's bloody terrible.
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Sorry, for Clampy, Agfuckingbonlahor?
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Gabby and Westy starting =
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For Norwich
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Gabby instead of Adomah seems very strange.
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Norwich team: Ruddy; Pinto, Bennett, Bassong, Olsson; Mulumbu, Dorrans; Ja. Murphy, Howson (c), Brady; Oliveira.
Subs: McGovern (GK), Martin, Naismith, Hoolahan, Klose, Lafferty, Tettey
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Time for Flabby to shit or get off the pot.
There should be a lot of shit in him from all those pies.
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Gabby instead of Adomah seems very strange.
Scored a couple of breakaway goals against then hasn't he?
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Hmmm
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I forgot Mulumbu played for them, he's bloody terrible.
Stuck my savings on him to score tonight.
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SB seems like hasnt got a fkn clue what to do up front,
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His only goal in the last 20 months was against them. That's how shit Norwich are!
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Klose is a good option for them to have on the bench.
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Dear Santa,
Please can you gift Westwood and Agbonlahor to Birmingham City FC
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SB seems like hasnt got a fkn clue what to do up front,
Balance isnt right again
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this from Ashley's wikipedia page -
Westwood operates primarily as a deep-lying playmaker although he is capable playing in a role higher up the midfield as well as right back. After his transfer to Aston Villa, Westwood compared himself to Michael Carrick adding that he is "someone who stays out of the limelight and keeps it simple, retaining the ball and laying it off to team-mates".[19]
sadly, he stays in the limelight for laying it off to opponents instead.
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At least we're back to looking for dodgy online streams tonight.
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SB seems like hasnt got a fkn clue what to do up front,
Balance isnt right again
Some would call it an embarrassment of riches but that forward line is just wrong. Hope however that im wrong.
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Norwich team: Ruddy; Pinto, Bennett, Bassong, Olsson; Mulumbu, Dorrans; Ja. Murphy, Howson (c), Brady; Oliveira.
Subs: McGovern (GK), Martin, Naismith, Hoolahan, Klose, Lafferty, Tettey
Norwich forum: "At least on the positive side it should be his last team selection!"
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I really like Steve Bruce but not to the extent that I think Agbonlahor should be anywhere near the first team.
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Norwich team: Ruddy; Pinto, Bennett, Bassong, Olsson; Mulumbu, Dorrans; Ja. Murphy, Howson (c), Brady; Oliveira.
Subs: McGovern (GK), Martin, Naismith, Hoolahan, Klose, Lafferty, Tettey
Norwich forum: "At least on the positive side it should be his last team selection!"
Remember when we went to Carrow Rd and sang the name of their manager? Dear oh dear how wrong we were...
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SB seems like hasnt got a fkn clue what to do up front,
Not as bad as what he did at Leeds, least he figured out Rudy as a lone striker didn't work...
Just wish he stop using Westwood....especially in front of Hutton-Elphick. That's like an accident waiting to happen.
Ours one strength is our strikers , so why do we barter that to shore up a defense that's only comfortable when the ball on the other side of the pitch.
Just run them over by attacking for fucks sake. If we try sitting back we will lose. :-\
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I really like Steve Bruce but not to the extent that I think Agbonlahor should be anywhere near the first team.
When the President Emeritus of the Steve Bruce (Yorkshire & Humberside Branch) Fan Club starts to have doubts about our manager you know we're in trouble.
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Happy birthday Albert!
Being dropped for Gabby has to be the biggest kick in the balls.
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Fucking hell. Why won't Gabby and Westwood just fuck off.
Come on, Steve, dump them off. They're shit!
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I can understand Westwood coming in as Gardner was crap Saturday and we don't really have anyone else.
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I was looking forward to tonights game on live over here but looking at that line up, meh.
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I can understand Westwood coming in as Gardner was crap Saturday and we don't really have anyone else.
Anyone else is a better option than Westwood and Gardner.
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I can understand Westwood coming in as Gardner was crap Saturday and we don't really have anyone else.
What about Tish ?
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Gabbys going to score tonight, its written, whats happened to Tshib?
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I'd prefer to see Bacuna in the midfield than Gardner or Westwood, has far more energy than both of them.
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Gabbys going to score tonight, its written, whats happened to Tshib?
He'd still be a big fucking twat though who we should dump off asap.
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I can understand Westwood coming in as Gardner was crap Saturday and we don't really have anyone else.
Bacuna can play right-central midfield. He is useful both attack and defending, while Westwoods best direction is sideways (on a good day!).
Only game we had a good midfield this season was Gardner - Bacuna industrious in front of a sweeping Jedinak.
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I'd prefer to see Bacuna in the midfield than Gardner or Westwood, has far more energy than both of them.
A thing that has no energy whatsoever has more energy than them.
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Anything from this game would be good. Come on Villa.
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Best wishes to all the Villa down at Pigeon Road. Wembley 75
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I can understand Westwood coming in as Gardner was crap Saturday and we don't really have anyone else.
What about Tish ?
Who knows if he's injured or has really pissed off SB but as he seems out the reckoning it leaves Gardner or Westwood. You could try Bacuna but not sure he's disciplined enough not too attack too much and/or head out wide, leaving Jedi on his own.
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I'd prefer to see Bacuna in the midfield than Gardner or Westwood, has far more energy than both of them.
Much as i cant stand bacuna have to agree or even tish as both of them would at least offer us something going forward
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433 or 451?
And I'm guessing Tshib has pissed off Bruce in some way.
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Grealish floating off Kodjia probably with Gabby and Ayew wide?
Wouldn't like to be Jedinak or Westwood tonight, not the most mobile anyway but the other four can be very lazy without the ball.
Very little consistency of shape and selection with this lineup and Leeds.
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whats happened to Tshib?
Could be that he's really not any good.
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Its certainly a good time to be playing Norwich. Think we should really go for the win and hopefully we get something. A draw would be a decent result but with the heat turned up on them I think its a really good chance to get three points and push our promotion bid.
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Don't like that line up at all.
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whats happened to Tshib?
Could be that he's really not any good.
but who decided that and based on what ? Some thing is not right there.
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whats happened to Tshib?
Could be that he's really not any good.
I was thinking that too.Hes been bulled up to fk and we havent seen it yet.
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...Gabby...
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Don't like that line up at all.
Kodja and Ayew wide according to SB
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Remember how we do things. When a team needs a favour doing, who's always ready to oblige?
Anyway, fucker the fucks.
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Bruce has done wonders with addressing the lack of fitness, morale and ending that bad streak.
Not to mention how good it is to see a coach that's involved and coaching form the sidelines during games.
But there is this nagging feeling he been a bit lucky with some results...and this fixation trying to shoe-in Gabby and Westwood isn't exactly insightful ....
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I can understand why he might 'rest' Adomah, since I thought he was poor on Saturday.
It's a slightly better team that that which turned out at Leeds but the debate about Westwood and Gardner here tells you all you need to know about our problems.
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Gardner was shit on Saturday - but Westwood? And wtf is it about Agbonlahor starting? Think Brucie's got this one wrong - but that's not the first time I've said that and been proven wrong
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While I'm not happy with Gabby or Westwood it has to be something to with squad rotation. At least those are the straws I'm clutching.
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These are vulnerable. If Bruce would deviate from the plan and actually pick a side to go at them in the first 10-15, they could fold.
My concern is he has once again gone for respect the point, hoping for Gabby to either keep hold of the ball up top (ha!) or chase lost causes (double ha!). Ayew starts at home and even though he has been a bit subdued lately, if he's good enough to start as your preferred wide option at home, he is good enough to do it away.
Kodija might be OK with drifting in from wide, but he is currently the closest thing we have to a top gun, mobile centre forward. Pick your best attackers and have a bit of balls.
Oh, and apparently Gabby played well at Brighton according to Bruce. ::)
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The entire right hand side of our attack is missing Westwood behind Ayew and Gabby. Not promising at all
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Ayew playing on the right and Grealish out left?
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Tshibola not even on the bench tonight
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Has Jedinak got a fucking top knot?
GET HIM DROPPED. 😠
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Note to Bruce. Don't let fucking Hutton take throw ins.
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Has Jedinak got a fucking top knot?
GET HIM DROPPED. 😠
Wonder if he can make it through an airport unmolested, looking like that...
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Not sure he can do much better with the side he has chosen. Gardner vs Westwood - Hobson's choice really. Roll on January.
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Good skill by Amavi there.
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Gardner vs Westwood
Tshibola.
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Getting the decisions so far. It'll never last.
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Not sure he can do much better with the side he has chosen. Gardner vs Westwood - Hobson's choice really. Roll on January.
Well, Gardner vs Westwood vs Bacuna vs Tshibola.
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Worst free kick ever?
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Has Grealish been on the laughing gas again?
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Grealish needs to take them on or shoot rather than keep giving it away and Ayew needs to be taken off set pieces
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Why didn't Jack just go for the penalty box?
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Two dreadful passes from Grealish to nobody.
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Why didn't Jack just go for the penalty box?
Xbox football
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Be nice if we passed to our own players
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Flats up top, Ayew and Kodjia on wings
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Why didn't Jack just go for the penalty box?
I think this at least 5 times a game when he's playing. Would be so much more dangerous if he went directly for the goal.
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Jedinak needs to wake up.
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Christmas dinner early by the looks of it.
Jedinak and Grealish gave the food the swerve and just stuck to the brandy.
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Two dreadful passes from Grealish to nobody.
And then two equally poor attempts from Jedinak
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Wake up Villa FFS
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Wake up Villa FFS
Has this been on every Villa match thread for the past 5 years?
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Giving the ball away a lot.
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Nice to see a Villa boss lecturing his team for once
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good from Amavi, poor from Kod.
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Kodjia should have laid that back to Jack
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Playing like a load of tarts at the minute.
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Wish we'd leave someone up top when the opposition have a corner
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How have these no marks got proper midfielders like Dorrans and Mulumbu while we have Ashley sodding Westwood?
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We look very laboured with lots of hoofball.
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How come Mad Tom is back as captain?
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Theres a 20 yard gap between defence, mid, and attack, its very poor
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Pretty awful so far
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How come Mad Tom is back as captain?
Probably because he's our captain, I'd suggest.
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Wish we'd leave someone up top when the opposition have a corner
Amen to that
we got coached two men on the half way line with your arms folded and that was under 11's
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Passing is very sloppy.
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we arent attempting to play football, hoofing it long every time. horrible
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How come Mad Tom is back as captain?
Probably because he's our captain, I'd suggest.
He shouldn't be. We were doing much better with Chester as captain.
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Yawn.
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How come Mad Tom is back as captain?
Probably because he's our captain, I'd suggest.
Tommy's played the last two games but wasn't captain
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Kodjia really does like to piss about with the ball rather than keep it moving.
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Good recovery after initial fuck up.
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Kodjia-Grealish -Ayew with Gabby alone in front of them seems to be our offensive plan today.
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Wish we'd leave someone up top when the opposition have a corner
Amen to that
we got coached two men on the half way line with your arms folded and that was under 11's
Must be a good idea then.
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23 mins in and we have been nowhere near their goal.
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Butterfingers from Gollini but he recovers
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There's a staggering amount of really poor individual errors in this performance.
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At least Gollini made up for his mistake there.
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They're trying to rival our dominance in the kick it out of play for no apparent reason stats.
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We have been diabolical at times tonight and some of the passing has been dire. Is Westwood playing?
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Kodjia should of been much quicker to take that throw-in.
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TV commentator says that team sheet had Chester as captain but was crossed out
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I've come to the conclusion that we could hire Pep and we'd be hoofing it long. It's in our DNA.
That's Pep Guardiola by the way. Not Pep Lambert.
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That was soft
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There's a staggering amount of really poor individual errors in this performance.
sadly it ain't staggering, it's familiar
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Wish we'd leave someone up top when the opposition have a corner
Amen to that
we got coached two men on the half way line with your arms folded and that was under 11's
Must be a good idea then.
Better than gabby wandering round in the box deciding who to try and mark
no out ball and inviting pressure back on you, dont get it
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Ayew cracks me up.
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Hopefully we get a result.
Do not appoint SB and expect a team (which he did not buy) to play like Barcelona.
He will grind out results and get us promoted,
To the next level, another question.
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Put some one else on free kicks ffs
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Very poor so far
Passing atrocious
Kodjia is a bit irritating sometimes isn't he?
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Huzzah, we had a shot. Sort of.
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Our free kicks are hopeless.
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I'm pretty sure he won't get us promoted once we are in the Premier League.
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This isn't our good half, is it?
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Butterfingers from Gollini but he recovers
very fast off the ground for the second save in fairness to him
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Our free kicks are hopeless.
That one was fine, other than Elphick's maniac idea to volley it instead of heading the ball.
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And another that was woeful. Control it or lay it back into the box
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Kodjia should have taken a touch there
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Elphick doesn't like using his left foot does he?
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Control it you fucking plum .
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Our free kicks are hopeless.
That one was fine, other than Elphick's maniac idea to volley it instead of heading the ball.
A case of spoke too soon!
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Our free kicks are hopeless.
That one was fine, other than Elphick's maniac idea to volley it instead of heading the ball.
A case of spoke too soon!
Sorry!
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We're on top, but can't see us scoring.
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Is the match as entertaining as Cooper's tweets about that couple rowing in the Square Peg?
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McCormack for Flabby at half-time, please.
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We're on top, but can't see us scoring.
Not from open play, there's no final ball, no vision.
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This is a pile of wank.
Too many touches, too many passes sideways and backwards.
Considering our 'embarrassment of riches' up front, not one of them is showing any desire.
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When Hutton goes on one of those runs the best you can hope for is that he blunders into snoop inner and gets a foul
I wonder what his cross completion stats are like. Single figures?
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Is the match as entertaining as Cooper's tweets about that couple rowing in the Square Peg?
No chance, those have been the highlight of Twitter today
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Why does Hutton throw himself to the ground all the time? He was in a good position then
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Gollini is a bit of a liability
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Leisurely. There's a good word to describe Villa just now.
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This is a pile of wank.
Too many touches, too many passes sideways and backwards.
Considering our 'embarrassment of riches' up front, not one of them is showing any desire.
Agreed with this. I don't think it's a lack of desire though - to me they either look nervous or unsure of how each other play. We certainly have a lack of chemistry up front which would suggest the latter.
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Bruce doesn't look happy at all
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To be fair Bruce looks pissed off with them at the mo
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This is a pile of wank.
Too many touches, too many passes sideways and backwards.
Considering our 'embarrassment of riches' up front, not one of them is showing any desire.
I don't mind the number of touches I just wish more of them went to someone in our coloured shirts
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We're on top, but can't see us scoring.
We're in the claret and blue, Paul. I'll be happy to get to half time all level. We're gash. No idea how to attack.
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Bruce looks about as happy as we do.
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Lets see if we can at least get a shot on target before HT.
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Kodjia worst game so far I reckon
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This is a pile of wank.
Too many touches, too many passes sideways and backwards.
Considering our 'embarrassment of riches' up front, not one of them is showing any desire.
Agreed with this. I don't think it's a lack of desire though - to me they either look nervous or unsure of how each other play. We certainly have a lack of chemistry up front which would suggest the latter.
I've never understood why the standard complain of football fans is 'try harder'. The main problem here is surely lack of quality, a clear attacking plan and a degree of confidence
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Suffice to say, we're a bit on the shit side.
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Dearth of any quality. Again
If i was a betting man you can see Norwich winning one or two nil. Repeat of Leeds
No way are we getting in the play offs on this form
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1st half, piss poor, theyre here for the taking and were incapable, bag of shit.
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Kod isn't much cop out on the left.
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Lets see if we can at least get a shot on target before HT.
I'm counting the Gollini clearance that went all the way to their goalie as a shot on target.
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Stupid from Kodjia.
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Bruce doesn't look happy at all
Dont play Gabby and Westwood then
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Stupid from Kod, lucky to get away with that the twat.
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When Hutton goes on one of those runs the best you can hope for is that he blunders into snoop inner and gets a foul
I wonder what his cross completion stats are like. Single figures?
hopeless, cant understand why he isnt told just turn back out and play the ball into midfield each time
competitive all over the park but the balance of midfield and forwards is all wrong, no cohesion at all
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nice of us to play Norwich back into form, we're like a pie thrower to an out of touch batsman
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Can't recall us putting three passes together this half at all
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Yes Amavi you have a stupid haircut.
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nice of us to play Norwich back into form, we're like pie thrower to an out of touch batsman
Can't you just play us some music?
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There are far bigger critics of Westwood than me but he's literally done nothing today
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Stupid from Kod, lucky to get away with that the twat.
Not sure he will.
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Has Gabby even touched the ball yet? Seen him running flat out at the keeper a few times but not near a ball..
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When Hutton goes on one of those runs the best you can hope for is that he blunders into snoop inner and gets a foul
I wonder what his cross completion stats are like. Single figures?
hopeless, cant understand why he isnt told just turn back out and play the ball into midfield each time
competitive all over the park but the balance of midfield and forwards is all wrong, no cohesion at all
What midfield?
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This game has all the excitement of an album by a half-Coldplay, half-Muse "super group".
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Oh for some quality we'd piss this.
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Make it stop ref.
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Can't recall us putting three passes together this half at all
Certainly not three forward passes. Too much showboating from Kodjia, Ayew and Grealish.
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Tommy was lucky there
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Lucky there, all from Kod being careless and losing possession.
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nice of us to play Norwich back into form, we're like pie thrower to an out of touch batsman
Can't you just play us some music?
Trash by Suede or It's No Good by Depeche Mode?
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Bruce looks about as happy as we do.
Except he isn't going "Why pick fucking Flabby Aintgonnascore and Ghastly Westwood?" like we are.
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Has Gabby even touched the ball yet? Seen him running flat out at the keeper a few times but not near a ball..
think he handled it once
Kodjia and Ayew have been appalling too, Kodjia is soft as sh*te tbh
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This is just as dull as the Wigan game
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This is awful so far!
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Has Gabby even touched the ball yet? Seen him running flat out at the keeper a few times but not near a ball..
The ball never gets near him such is the shite from those behind him.
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Is gabby still on the pitch?
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Amavi has played well
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1 more minute of shite
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Has Gabby even touched the ball yet? Seen him running flat out at the keeper a few times but not near a ball..
The ball never gets near him such is the shite from those behind him.
A quick swap Gabby -> Adomah will fix this game. Kodjia through the middle and we're good.
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Gabby has hardly touched the ball but in fairness to him he's had fuck all service. No point playing him (insert your own joke here) if you aren't playing passes for him to run on to.
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Get kodjia off - pathetic tonight
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Amavi has played well
Agreed. Chester too.
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Dull as fuck.
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Crap, even our good players are rubbish
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Jedinak our best player this half simply for bailing out Westwood 4 times!! when they "ghostwalked" him! His passing havn't been stellar though.
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I guess this is the performance you get when you have a nine man team and only 1 midfielder.
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Garbage
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Fucking BOOOOOOOOOO.
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Poor first half.
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Amarvi has had a decent game that's about it for positives.
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Amavi and Chester decent, Jedi has done some important challenges but as given the ball away a fair bit. Positive is we haven't looked in much trouble, negative is we've been shit going forward.
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Nothing to majorly concern Steve Bruce according to the commentator.
Other than most of his players can't control a football, I totally agree.
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Yawn
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We'll lose this. Kod is having a shocker.
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We were crap but Norwich still didn't muster a threat. Come on Brucie show us what you're made of
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Fucking BOOOOOOOOOO.
Thanks Fred MacAulay
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Shit.
Have Westwood and Gabby touched the ball?
Ayew has been poor.
First time I've watched us under Bruce and thought we're proper shit.
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Can't play as poorly second half?
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Well that was boring. Just seems no balance to the side. I'd start by getting Flabby off- offers nothing - can only think he was picked 'cos the only goal he's scored in his last 31 matches was against them
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Get that useless No.11 off and get Adomah on.
Kodj needs to up his game too. Did anyone else feel Sky were trying to get him into trouble earlier? Probably get a three game ban now and we won't see him until February.
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442. It screams out for 442. Why is 442 so out of fashion?
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Has Gabby even touched the ball yet? Seen him running flat out at the keeper a few times but not near a ball..
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The ball never gets near him such is the shite from those behind him.
Eureka!!!!
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Can't play as poorly second half?
Yes we can, that was our good half.
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Amavi and Chester decent, Jedi has done some important challenges but as given the ball away a fair bit. Positive is we haven't looked in much trouble, negative is we've been shit going forward.
100% this and I'm not impressed with Grealish either, what's happened to driving forwards?
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Norwich is famous for turkeys and has anyone ever seen more fowl throws from a team ever?
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I guess this is the performance you get when you have a nine man team and only 1 midfielder.
Know exactly what you mean and who the 2 absentees are. Agree with putting on Adomah for Agbonlahor and putting Kodija up front. Not sure of who to replace Westwood with but replacing he needs.
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Best player Amavi. Next best Jedinak.
We've got to start showing some attacking threat. Please sort this out Steve & Co. Let's see what your made of chaps.
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That was bloody awful, from both sides.
Wonder goal or mistake wins this.
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Has Gabby even touched the ball yet? Seen him running flat out at the keeper a few times but not near a ball..
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The ball never gets near him such is the shite from those behind him.
Eureka!!!!
Yup. Nothing from midfield just hoof balls upto the front 3
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We're sitting way too deep, there's no movement, Kodjia doesn't look overly bothered, Westwood anonymous, Jack looks lost in the middle and Gabby is Gabby. I'm not sure we have enough subs to sort out this shower of shit, though I'm sure Bruce will have the hairdryer out in the dressing room. Let's see if that makes a difference.
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Kodj needs to up his game too. Did anyone else feel Sky were trying to get him into trouble earlier?
Not really. He was a bit of a knob, and deserved to be shown up for it.
Moving on though, I'm starting to think I should really be writing my Christmas cards.
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Tommy was lucky there
yeah, made look a mug really, kind of mistake that gets punished in the top division
appalling standard of football, we arent attempting to play constructively
a mistake will decide this game, like v Leeds
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Just seen the Kodjia incident replay - retrospective red beckons. Silly boy
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Just seen the Kodjia incident replay - retrospective red beckons. Silly boy
Yep, like Grealish
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Amavi and Chester decent, Jedi has done some important challenges but as given the ball away a fair bit. Positive is we haven't looked in much trouble, negative is we've been shit going forward.
100% this and I'm not impressed with Grealish either, what's happened to driving forwards?
He breaks with the ball, gives it to Kodija and then stands still. Makes no attempt to run on and get the return ball. One of the reasons he will never be top quality. No work rate or endeavour. £20k per week and he's happy. No motivation to do better
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It does feel like we're on course to lose this to me. We need to buck our ideas up.
I'm not sure where I'd start in terms of changes but it has to involve gabby or Westwood or both.
Bruce's record has been great and we're so much better mentally but I think the quality of our attacking play has probably got worse
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Kod and Ayew have been awful. We need to be able to use 5 subs to take off all those that deserve it. Kod for definite would be off for me, shit and petulant tonight.
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There is no cohesion in this side, I would criticise Gabby but when the ball is never played to him what is he supposed to do. Kodja is wasted on the left and looks out of sorts. and again Westwood is Mr invisible, unless Bruce changes things around we will lose this, not one shot at goal.
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Stephen hawking is going to try and work out why Westwood is playing hopefully he will get the answer before full time
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[Might go and tidy my sock draw & listen to it on the radio instead of watching it. Might be a better game on the radio.
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Have we got too many forward players on?
I think they are taking each others space, hence the lack of movement.
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442. It screams out for 442. Why is 442 so out of fashion?
Adomah for Ayew, Grealish left, Kodj & Gabby up top, 60" Rudi for Gabby: 442!
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Can we stop this fucking gabby experiment now. He's contributed as much as he did away at spurs last season.
Re:Kodjia kick out, I'm not so sure of the event. If h gets banned for that after the Newcastle our have their reds overturned then I'd be shocked.
Westwood - can't even be bothered to post loads about what we all see every bloody time. The one thing is the amount of challenges that he bottles out of by leaping just before getting to the ball is disgusting. How bad must Tish be Monday-Friday..........
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Id be getting Grealish onto the left, McCormack on and Kodjia off. Shove Gabby onto the right and Ayew up front. Hutton and Gabby can be the shite side
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Oh FFS, looks like they've chosen to televise the Second Half, too..
Was hoping they'd switch to another game.
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Id be getting Grealish onto the left, McCormack on and Kodjia off. Shove Gabby onto the right and Ayew up front. Hutton and Gabby can be the shite side
Onto the right, means off the pitch, yes?
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Hummm Gabby not doing much. Ayew ditto though not as bad
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Amavi and Chester decent, Jedi has done some important challenges but as given the ball away a fair bit. Positive is we haven't looked in much trouble, negative is we've been shit going forward.
100% this and I'm not impressed with Grealish either, what's happened to driving forwards?
Seems like we trying to play Grealish as central "9", but he isn't getting anything though to Kodjia, Gabby or Ayew. Granted he is getting no support from Westwood behind and Jedinak never gets that far up the middle except for a few misdirected passes straight to Norwich. So Grealish ends up keeping the ball and Norwich just shuts him down.
Amavi been connecting a few times with Kodjia but thats come to nothing..still its even worse in the middle and to the right we sorely missing AA...
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Haha commentator "Gabby on the move"
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Stunk the place out on live TV again. Gollini and Elphick look shaky, Hutton and Amavi constantly making mistakes, Jedinak giving the ball away, Westwood totally anonymous, Kodjia and Ayew slowing things down to walking pace and then giving it away, Grealish no final product and Agbonlahor not involved at all.
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Oh and have we won any header when punting up the pitch
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Already looking like the first was our "good half".
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I am fucking apoplectic seeing ANOTHER attack break down because of Huttons ineptitude.
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Our passing has been so poor.
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How boring do we have to be before they stop televising all our away matches?
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Passing is awful. I think the Grealish shot hit Ayew? So sloppy and lethargic.
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Wonder where we be this season if not for Chester...brrr...chilling thought.
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Dire stuff.
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Chester is by far our best player
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Dire stuff.
Is that a Mark Knopfler tribute act?
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Im reading a book
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Anybody want a ticket for qpr????
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I know ayew has always been frustrating but earlier in the season he was at least waltzing past players with ease. He's been shit for a while now
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Terrible performance. We haven't had a sight of their goal.
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Agbolahor looks like a clapped out boxer who has had 15 fights too many but is convinced he has one big win in him.
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Fucking hell! A burst of pace from Bella Emberg in the no.11 shirt.
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I predict that the gabby experiment won't last beyond afcon
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ffs, please change this utter shite up
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Dreadful performance, absolutely dreadful
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Kodjia does not like being on the wing does he.
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Westwood Gabby and Ayew not really creating anything. That leaves the rest fucked
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Kod on the left is just a waste of a player.
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Sky's viewing figures during this game
(http://www.futfanatico.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Decline.jpg)
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55 minutes gone and 1 off target shot and still no changes. Jeeze.
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Where are you going, Ayew?
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Yeeeesuuus we are poor
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Norwich are doing to us exactly what we should be doing to them, getting in their faces and giving them no time on the ball.
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I'd love to see gabby's passing stats. I think he's given it away every time he's had it. Which I think is about five times
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I am assuming we are employing some Steve Bruce genius footballing equivalent of Ali's rope-a-dope tactics which will ensure we win 0-1 in the last minute.
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Anybody want a ticket for qpr????
I'll have it if you give me some spending money as well
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Wonder what page in the managers handbook it says "You cant make a change before 60 min no matter how shite you are unless there is an injury..."
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We are absolute pish.
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Easy to see how these two got relegated. The passing if you can call it that and general standard of play is truly shocking.
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Ayew and Gabby off now.
Kodjia in to the middle.
Albert and Bacuna on.
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'Wank' doesn't begin to describe this performance.
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Are there any good films on?
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Ah ffs... is it Ayew or Gabby that has to be subbed?
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Wonder what page in the managers handbook it says "You cant make a change before 60 min no matter how shite you are unless there is an injury..."
Appendix I
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Westwood Gabby and Ayew not really creating anything. That leaves the rest fucked
Add both full backs, Grealish and Kodjia to that group
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That's almost an hour and no shots.
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Bruce needs to change things around now... before the inevitable happens.
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Get Gabby off, put kod down the middle and get bacunas legs on the pitch
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This has been a pretty horrible game.
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What. A. Let. Off
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Out of jail villa
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Lucky
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Fucking hell.
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Brady must think he's already a Villa player with that effort.
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Fucking pathetic from Chester
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Ooh, a chance!
For them, obviously.
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I've just sent a message to SligoTom at the ground. I think that I might have woken him up
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Huge let off
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Bloody hell how are we not 1-0 behind?
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15 seconds and we can sub
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Kod on the left is just a waste of a player.
Completely agree though somebody should tell him he can drift in and there's no electrical fence around the box.
Shit! We are lucky not to behind. Only one team looks like they want to/know how to win.
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Awful from Chester there.
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sitter missed from Brady, appalling mistake from Chester
paralysis on the sideline
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Thing is we know, individually, they are better than this.
For fuck shake change it.
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Westwood screamer imminent.
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Amavi's cross !!!!!!' Aaarrrrrrgggggghhhhhhhhhhh
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Kodjia up the middle now and gabby left
Should have definitely been a goal. Chester skinned there
Good defending Hutton
We. We need a change because we're going to lose this
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And there it is
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Well that was coming.
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And there you go
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Here we go. Fucking wank, shit, c unts
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Fuck me
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Fucking pathetic from Chester
Was it Chester who bowed down?
Fffs
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Fat twat Gabbys fault there fuck off
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Nothing more than we deserve. That touch by Gabby then...
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There you go. It's not like it was fucking coming. Fucking hell Bruce, why not change it before we went behind.
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Can't see us coming back from this
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Can't decide whose fault that is.
I'll go for all of them.
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Obvious.
We could all see that goal coming except Bruce.
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Wow this is bad.
And now worse. That goal came from gabby's terrible touch.
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Westwood Gabby and Ayew not really creating anything. That leaves the rest fucked
Is Westwood playing? I haven't heard him mentioned at all.
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Captain calamity to the rescue again....for Norwich
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Forget promotion. It ain't happening with this team.
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Great first touch by gabby and 10 seconds later they score.
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God almighty that's awful on so many levels. Back off, back off and there you go.
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Great touch fat boy.
Idiotic decision to start him.
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all from Gabby's first touch.... woeful efforts at tackles from Jedinak and Grealish too mind
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Make some fucking subs this is worse than Hitler.
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Not even trying to score. Pathetic
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Bounced off Gabby like it hit the side of a lamppost FFS!
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Utter shite
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The goal comes from that fucking shithouses mis control on the half way line .
What the fuck is he doing on the pitch - you are a moron Bruce for picking him .
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Should have been two. Awful.
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Inevitable
Started with a shocking touch from gabby. Shocking ten yard first touch
Elphick and Gollini like statues
Can't see us getting a goal
Really terrible performance
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This is dog shit
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Come on Fist Face this isn't working.
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We are shit. Another nil away. Blues, Leeds, Brighton all winning.... Come on Villa!
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Fucking shit team selection and an equally dire performance.
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What's happened to our Brighton form? Elphick should've closed the space down. Performance reminiscent of RDM!
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Dreadful
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Shouldn't Bruce, y'know, DO something.
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Westwood backtracking just enough to get prime spectating view... almost comical on the reruns!
Anyone warming up?
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How the fuck can't they see Gabby's shitness
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This is as bad as anything in the last 5 years. And Norwich are garbage
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Should be enough for Norwich but they're all over us now.
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Why is Bruce persevering with Agbonlahor? Absolute madness.
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Shots nil, goals nil fucking hell.
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Midfield making mulumbu look like a world beater.
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Midfield missing?
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What's happened to our Brighton form? Elphick should've closed the space down. Performance reminiscent of RDM!
Part of the answer is in the question.
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No need to make any changes Steve, this is going really fucking well so far.
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Good attempt from Elphick to block it with his hands.
Better than his feet or head, I suppose.
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It wasn't working and Bruce did nothing. He's picked the wrong side again away from home
Norwich are shit and it should be two or three to them now
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I think it started with Amavi's bollocks effort of a cross which led to agbonlahors crap touch.
He had a great opportunity to put a cross is and hit the first man, 2 yards in front of him.
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Centre halves and midfield were so bad for that goal.
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GET GABBY OFF.
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Agbonlahor couldn't control a bag of cement
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Jedi with his best Tonev impression
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Get that fat c**t off and give him a fucking 1 way ticket to Australia or New Zealand.
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GET GABBY THE FUCK OFF
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Keeper way too central
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A shot!
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Five substitutions and about four brain transplants and we still have a chance here.
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Ross and Albert coming on. He'll probably take Jedi and Gollini off.
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RMC coming on soon.
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Shocking from flabby, Bruce needs to learn fast, the guy has no place in the squad and we can't afford to carry him especially when in marginalises kod who is a far better player.
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This has to be the end of Agbonlahor.
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This is embarrassing
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Gabby, Ayew, kodjia, Westwood.
So many poor performances.
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This is like last season as if nobody can be arsed. Where's the urgency? Has Kodije had a touch this half?
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Gabby shouldn't even be in the squad let alone the first 11. He's absolutely fukin shite
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Not hung about? It's 5 mins since they scored ffs
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Not hung about? It's 5 mins since they scored ffs
Subs have sat back down
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What a shocking free kick
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What the fuck is he waiting for? Make some fucking changes!!!!
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Ducking hell did Hutton actually just put a cross into the box? 😎😎😎😎
A
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We need the transfer window desperately.
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That fat fucking potato headed wanker Gabby should be hanging from the Holte not on the pitch the bag of shit, why we still haven't paid the gormless cretins contract off is beyond me, playing with 10 men before we even start and pissing about a young player who could make a difference in to it as well.
I hate the fat slob.
Ayew can't be arsed this season, pathetic contribution and Westwood is Westwood, as much use as planting a Villa shirt wearing scarecrow in the middle of the pitch. Never thought i'd say this but get Bacuna on for Westwank and anyone on for the balding slob.
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Where the fuck are the subs?
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Amavi is garbage and also gutless
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This has to be the end of Agbonlahor.
I bet you it isn't. He's like an unflushable turd.
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9 or 10 mins since they scored. Is he waiting for it to be 2-0 before making a fucking change?
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Free kicks have barely reached knee high! Awful delivery. No shots on target.
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Make the fucking changes man!
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Amavi is garbage and also gutless
Been our best player tonight by some distance.
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Blimey.....Norwich should be three or four up
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Should have been game over
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Should have been 2-0
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This must be our first performance for ....
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Fuck off fat bastard
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The quality in this league is terrible isn't it? It's just terrible
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Absolute Blues
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Good riddance. Never come back you fat ******.
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Far too negative away from home.
It worked o.k in SB's early games but we're really going to need to change the mindset second half of the season.
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Midfield, lets be avin you
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Ayew stays on????
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Grealish off and Westwood stays on. Breathtaking
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How the fuck is Ayew still on the pitch?
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Amavi is garbage and also gutless
Been our best player tonight by some distance.
Absolutely... off all those 11 he is not to blame
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Grealish off and Wetturd stays on.
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We're being dicked by a team on a fucking awful run ffs.
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We deserve to be about 3-0 down. Fuck knows why we waited ten minutes to make a change.
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9 or 10 mins since they scored. Is he waiting for it to be 2-0 before making a fucking change?
It's ridiculous. We had about half an hour left then. Ten minutes of that wasted now.
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About time !
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Far too negative away from home.
It worked o.k in SB's early games but we're really going to need to change the mindset second half of the season.
I'm not sure we've set up negatively it's just that we've been appalling
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9 or 10 mins since they scored. Is he waiting for it to be 2-0 before making a fucking change?
It's ridiculous. We had about half an hour left then. Ten minutes of that wasted now.
Spot on.
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With many more performances like this, Bruces' honeymoon period might be a short one.
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Far too negative away from home.
It worked o.k in SB's early games but we're really going to need to change the mindset second half of the season.
I'm not sure we've set up negatively it's just that we've been appalling
Yep.
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Honeymoon period over ?
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75 minutes, no sign of a shot.
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We are just a mid table championship team.
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Tramps 2-0 and as it stands we're back to 6 points off the play-offs.
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Woke up early to watch the match, saw the team, lost interest due to certain inclusions, thought 'we won't win with them in the team', went back to bed, woke up again, checked on here, saw the rage, knew we shouldn't have played those certain inclusions, felt annoyed.
Am considering ringing in sick.
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We are just a mid table championship team.
Yes, just mid table
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Grealish off and Westwood stays on. Breathtaking
We couldnt play grealish and Jedinak as a two here we'd get completely over run
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Grealish havn't been good, but Westwood havn't been at all...
And why wait until we 1 down and 15 min to go?
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Our movement off the ball is woeful. What on earth do they practice all week?
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YOU DONT TAKE JACK OFF. FFS
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Amavi is garbage and also gutless
Been our best player tonight by some distance.
Absolutely... off all those 11 he is not to blame
He makes horrendous mistakes on a pretty regular basis. The way he played the Norwich player onside for that chance was schoolboy stuff.
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Been saying it for weeks - even in this league , which is a shocking standard - every team we play pass the ball better than we do.
WTF do they do at bodymoor all week ?
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So, do poor.
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Completely and utterly infuriating. Costing me a bet worth £1,100 too.
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Been saying it for weeks - even in this league , which is a shocking standard - every team we play pass the ball better than we do.
WTF do they do at bodymoor all week ?
Watch trains?
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Our movement off the ball is woeful. What on earth do they practice all week?
Certainly not crossing and free kicks on this evidence.
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Once again, we are the team you want to play when you're on a bad run or haven't scored since the last century.
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Elphick poor challenge to give away the free-kick. I don't rate him.
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Ayew should be off - for ever. He was very poor last Saturday too.
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He didn't have to go down then
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Why on earth would a manager wait until there is only 15 mins to go to make changes when it was so obviously not working?
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We are just a mid table championship team.
Agreed. Which is shocking when you consider what we spent.
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Now he is bringing on Rudy cause we been crossing well all night...
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I wish I didn't have to watch this.
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Completely and utterly infuriating. Costing me a bet worth £1,100 too.
Ah, so it's your fault!
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A shot!!! It was off target but a shot none the less.
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Ayew off, 60 minutes too late
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If we get anything out of this Norwich can rightly feel robbed
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Ghastly.
I think I will switch over to watch Lucy Liu in Elementary.
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Ayew had been a bit better in the last five minutes. Still disappointing though.
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Watching your team should be fun. This just feels frustrating and painful.
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Here comes Rudy, that'll have Norwich quaking in their boots
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Quite honestly we could be 4-0 down here and have no complaints.
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McCormack looks like the kind of fella who's always trying to shag someone's mum.
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Quantom leap anyone
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Watching your team should be fun. This just feels frustrating and painful.
Welcome to the last 6 years
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Subs getting Bradford-esque. Lots of strikers on but no service. The balance and shape of the team is just wrong
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Can ayew even pass a football
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Tramps 2-0 and as it stands we're back to 6 points off the play-offs.
6 points and a million fucking miles.
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Oliveira has played well for them
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Kodija has been absolute shite.
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Subs that made MON look clever, not...
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Easiest game for Norwich all season. An insult to football tonight.
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Fucking idiotic to give away a free kick there.
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Bacuna and Tshibola have got to get a look in, this midfield is completely fucking the entire side up, it contributes nothing going forward, no building of play or dictating, it's worse than last seasons by a mile.
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Christ this is bad
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I can't see the play-offs on this evidence. Woeful.
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Ayew should be off - for ever. He was very poor last Saturday too.
He's been shite all season, two league goals?
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Fucking idiotic to give away a free kick there.
Yep, brainless.
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Kodija has been absolute shite.
hasnt tried a leg
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No more than a couple of shots on target on Saturday.
None today.
And people say we have a potent strike force
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At least we know Bruce will acknowledge the poor performance
I wish he'd do something about it though
Norwich have one clean sheet in 17 games and we've barely put together an attack worthy of the name all game
Considering the quality of the opposition I can't think of many less impressive league performances in recent years?
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So the first half was our good half?
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McCormack is shaping up to be our biggest waste of cash ever. What exactly does the chubby little fucker do?
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You can't win away without a midfield. End of.
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No more than a couple of shots on target on Saturday.
None today.
And people say we have a potent strike force
About as potent as Pele's cock. The service is shite to be fair. We get 1 or 2 chances a game.
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McCormack is shaping up to be our biggest waste of cash ever. What exactly does the chubby little fucker do?
Chips
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We've been an embarrassment tonight.
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McCormack is shaping up to be our biggest waste of cash ever. What exactly does the chubby little fucker do?
Scores absolutely shitloads of goals.
For everyone but us.
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McCormack is shaping up to be our biggest waste of cash ever. What exactly does the chubby little fucker do?
That has made me giggle more than it should have done.
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Perhaps this season was just about stopping up after all.
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McCormack is shaping up to be our biggest waste of cash ever. What exactly does the chubby little fucker do?
Chips
Competition for gabby at the buffet
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A point now would be a fucking Christmas gift.
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I can't see the play-offs on this evidence. Woeful.
It will happen when we deserve it. We have done absolutely fuck all so far to try and win this game, it's not like Norwich have played a blinder either.
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The thing is we know McCormack can be excellent at this level - the evidence is there to see on the net
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Bacuna was ok in midfield against Reading. Not a look in since he returned from injury.
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Really poor from team and manager tonight
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Offside. Offside. Offside. Every fucking attack if you can call it an attack
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Very poor night all round, selection, tactics, team, substitutions.
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Bacuna was ok in midfield against Reading. Not a look in since he returned from injury.
Drop Westy AND Gards? Are you mad?
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Useless. Fucking useless.
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You can't win away without a midfield. End of.
selecting only two midfielders away from home....woeful tactics
Ive seen us a few times under Bruce but dont honestly think we have improved one iota
no set up at all up front, collection of indivduals
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Can someone remind me what our best chance was?
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Complete shite
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Shocking ... i had to log in to type that ... could hardly be bothered
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Tony, you've inherited and bankrolled some right old shit mate.
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Not one of Jedis best nights
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I think we need to come to terms with the fact we are going to be in this awful league for a while
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Can someone remind me what our best chance was?
It was just before Bruce announced the line-up
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Got away with it Saturday - fucked it up tonight . Woeful from the manager.
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Can someone remind me what our best chance was?
Our best chance was starting with a team that has some nouse and desire to win, and didn't contain Agbonlahor.
We blew it.
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Midfield should be Bacuna, Tshibola and Jedinak. Gardner and Westwood are shit ****** and Grealish in a kind of midfield 3 is a luxury we just can't have right now. We need the numbers and we need to get games by the scruff of their neck. Appalling showing tonight. The experiment with the slob to try and get him firing for January needs to end now, he's a busted fat fuck who offers nothing.
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McCormack is shaping up to be our biggest waste of cash ever. What exactly does the chubby little fucker do?
He wins a lot of drinking competitions. He'd only been on 3 minutes and got caught offside while having a leisurely stroll back towards his own half. Lazy useless twat imho.
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You'd think Norwich were losing this.
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Hutton is a fucking thick as he looks.
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Ive got to go to work tomorrow, WANKERS the lot of you.
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I keep thinking these players are better than this but I really am not so sure anymore. In defence of Bruce, none of them ate his players
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We have been fucking shite. We don't even deserve nil. ******.
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Awful
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This hurts. Haven't said that for a while. They get your hopes up and break your heart.
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McCormack is shaping up to be our biggest waste of cash ever. What exactly does the chubby little fucker do?
Makes Gabby look slim/good
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Happy to see we mounting a last ditch effort at least! (In case irony DOES work on the internet)
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Not one of Jedis best nights
Top marks!
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When you think how much money we have spent and we play like this it makes you wince.
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McCormack is shaping up to be our biggest waste of cash ever. What exactly does the chubby little fucker do?
He wins a lot of drinking competitions. He'd only been on 3 minutes and got caught offside while having a leisurely stroll back towards his own half. Lazy useless twat imho.
an appalling professional, rocking up to the club two stone overweight in the summer, clown
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I keep thinking these players are better than this but I really am not so sure anymore. In defence of Bruce, none of them ate his players
No defending picking Westwank and the Blob again tonight though. Set up to fail.
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I keep thinking these players are better than this but I really am not so sure anymore. In defence of Bruce, none of them ate his players
Though Gabby has tried to.
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Omfg how useless is Alan Hutton?
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We've been second to everything from the very first minute & barely put 2 passes together all night. An atrocious and entirely predictable performance that's been coming for weeks.
Bruce is making the same mistake the RDM did in trying to get 4 weak willed attacking players on the pitch & is getting the same sort of performances. Our midfield is too weak to get away with just 2 (1 if you consider one of them is Westwood).
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Thats a pen for sure.
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Fucking pathetic from start to finish.
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Referee!
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break your heart.
Steady on!
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Shite.
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Should've been a penalty. We didn't deserve to avoid defeat though.
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That was fucking woeful.
Not a shot on target against a side out of form.
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You can't win away without a midfield. End of.
selecting only two midfielders away from home....woeful tactics
Ive seen us a few times under Bruce but dont honestly think we have improved one iota
no set up at all up front, collection of indivduals
If anything we're less creative under Bruce but the points tally is much better. He's inherited a dire midfield and unbalanced squad. Way too soon to judge him. Let's see how we do with his additions in the NY
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Penalty at the end there.
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Dreadful.
No guile, no movement and mediocre players (yes, Elphick, Gestede and McCormack: you get special mention for shiteness).
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I don't think you can single out Gestede and McCormack for shiteness. They weren't on very long and the latter was unlucky not to win us a penalty.