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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: The Laughing Policeman on November 29, 2016, 06:15:46 PM

Title: Gary Shaw.
Post by: The Laughing Policeman on November 29, 2016, 06:15:46 PM
Just heard that Gary has been in hospital recently for another operation on his knee and is currently using a zimmer frame to get  around.
I've met him a good few times and once sticks in my mind, we were having a drink together and it was obvious he wasn't feeling too good, it ended with me having to help him into a taxi home because he could barely walk.
After I heard the news about yet another operation it set me to wondering, if sports medicine in the 80's had been as good as it is now, where would his career have taken him?
Good luck mate and hope to see you back in The White Horse soon.
Title: Re: Gary Shaw.
Post by: Tony Erdington on November 29, 2016, 07:19:26 PM
Gary Shaw = LEGEND

And Great Bloke.

Speedy recovery Sir.
Title: Re: Gary Shaw.
Post by: andyaston on November 29, 2016, 08:35:38 PM
Yeah ive seen him in the Sportsman and the White Horse, he is a nice bloke to talk to. Good luck to him, a Villa legend and a local boy.
Title: Re: Gary Shaw.
Post by: Diablo on November 29, 2016, 09:44:28 PM
Not good news. Hope he makes a speedy and full recovery.
Title: Re: Gary Shaw.
Post by: JB1811 on November 29, 2016, 09:53:14 PM
I was in Hospital in about '84. I had my knee operated on by the same surgeon he did.  The surgeon told him I was a massive Villa fan, an he came to see me.  TOP BLOKE
Title: Re: Gary Shaw.
Post by: London Villan on November 29, 2016, 10:43:43 PM
My first Villa hero, used to bump in to him all the time out and about. Get well soon.
Title: Re: Gary Shaw.
Post by: wittonwarrior on November 29, 2016, 11:27:07 PM
Amazing how they deal with knee injuries these days. When I broke my knee 30 odd years ago was in hospital some 6 weeks. Recently had some cartilage shaved and was back in the club by the evening.

The problem with sportsmen like Gary shaw is that they had more injections than a junkie to keep them going
Title: Re: Gary Shaw.
Post by: thick_mike on November 29, 2016, 11:43:35 PM
Wasn't that what pissed Andy Gray off with Ron Saunders?
Title: Re: Gary Shaw.
Post by: old man villa fan on November 30, 2016, 08:22:07 AM
Could have been an all time great. He had the instinct of Greaves in the penalty area.  Considering his size, he was very strong with the ball played up to him. His touch in playing in Withe and Morley was exceptional.
Title: Re: Gary Shaw.
Post by: ColinMac on November 30, 2016, 09:06:02 AM
Without the injuries he could have been presenting Match of the Day in his pants.
Title: Re: Gary Shaw.
Post by: darren woolley on November 30, 2016, 10:16:29 AM
One of my favourite Villa players of all time get well soon.
Title: Re: Gary Shaw.
Post by: Exeter 77 on November 30, 2016, 10:47:40 AM
Could have been an all time great. He had the instinct of Greaves in the penalty area.  Considering his size, he was very strong with the ball played up to him. His touch in playing in Withe and Morley was exceptional.
Like he plays in Dennis Mortimer for the second here.

https://youtu.be/ldOT57FtsIc

Title: Re: Gary Shaw.
Post by: pbavfckuwait on November 30, 2016, 12:23:24 PM
Get well soon Gary, cracking player and lovely guy.
Title: Re: Gary Shaw.
Post by: Chris Jameson on November 30, 2016, 01:45:17 PM
My uncle damaged his cartilage whilst captaining Hull City reserves at Roker Park. At the time he was 17 having been signed by Manchester United and loaned back to Hull whilst he developed. It ended his career, these days he would be back playing within weeks.

So whilst I had an uncle who was at Manchester United and played in training sessions with the likes of George Best and Bobby Charlton and I had an aunty who lived in Salford, the same house she was born in within sight of Old Trafford I didn't use either of those tenuous links to support them. My uncle playing for Hull City was what saw me becoming a Villa supporter!
Title: Re: Gary Shaw.
Post by: Villan For Life on November 30, 2016, 02:09:37 PM
Could have been an all time great. He had the instinct of Greaves in the penalty area.  Considering his size, he was very strong with the ball played up to him. His touch in playing in Withe and Morley was exceptional.
Like he plays in Dennis Mortimer for the second here.

https://youtu.be/ldOT57FtsIc



One of my favourite goals that I've seen scored live at Villa Park. That was the result when I started to really believe that we could win the league.

Get well soon Gary Shaw, Gary Shaw, Gary Gary Shaw.
Title: Re: Gary Shaw.
Post by: Duncan Shaw on November 30, 2016, 03:45:09 PM
Could have been an all time great. He had the instinct of Greaves in the penalty area.  Considering his size, he was very strong with the ball played up to him. His touch in playing in Withe and Morley was exceptional.
Like he plays in Dennis Mortimer for the second here.

https://youtu.be/ldOT57FtsIc


Before I clicked this I knew it was going to be the Liverpool game, same as above, as Dennis broke across the halfwayline I knew we were going to win the league.

Gary Shaw was my first hero too (perhaps understandably, not related!) and like someone alluded to up there, he was ahead of Lineker at the time of his injury.  he really was a fanstastic, fantastic player.  European young player of the year - alot of rumours about him being lined up for Juve at the time as well.
Title: Re: Gary Shaw.
Post by: Flamingo Lane on November 30, 2016, 07:02:50 PM
Gary Shaw was indeed a fantastic footballer.  One of my fondest memories of seeing him play was in a youth cup game at Leicester City, which must have been 1978 or 79, as I went to the game as I was at university there.  He was head and shoulders above anyone else on the pitch, his general control of the ball, effortless movement and ability to bring others into play a joy to watch.  I recall he also scored a splendid goal, in what I think was a 1-1 draw. 
Title: Re: Gary Shaw.
Post by: WarszaVillan on November 30, 2016, 10:15:49 PM
As with many of our own he also got a lot of stick at times from part of the crowd.
Title: Re: Gary Shaw.
Post by: West Derby Villan on November 30, 2016, 10:32:59 PM
As mentioned before he was 1982 European Young Player of the Year, that's how good he was. Wish him a speedy recovery, fantastic talent
Title: Re: Gary Shaw.
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on November 30, 2016, 11:12:03 PM
As mentioned before he was 1982 European Young Player of the Year, that's how good he was. Wish him a speedy recovery, fantastic talent
The presentation was made in Montecatini and my Italian mate Stefano, who is a Montecatini boy, always brings this up in conversation..."Gary Shaw...Aston Villa...best young footballer in Europe gets his medal in MY town!"

Get well soon Gary Shaw!
Title: Re: Gary Shaw.
Post by: Sunny Villa on November 30, 2016, 11:32:00 PM
Gary was pure class and a real gent .he has had his demons but was always there for the club .

For the record he was not a bad cricketer and would turn our for a local club regularly he brought the League Cup to the clubhouse for all the local kids to see and have photos taken
Title: Re: Gary Shaw.
Post by: Villan For Life on December 01, 2016, 05:29:28 AM
As with many of our own he also got a lot of stick at times from part of the crowd.

I don't recall that at all. Where and when?
Title: Re: Gary Shaw.
Post by: dave shelley on December 01, 2016, 07:00:04 AM
As with many of our own he also got a lot of stick at times from part of the crowd.

I don't recall that at all. Where and when?

He did.  I remember we were playing Bristol City away, I think it was Boxing Day 1979.  He was playing poorly and the some of our fans' were giving him some stick.  Then, bang!  hat-trick.  No more stick, surprisingly.
Title: Re: Gary Shaw.
Post by: garyshawsknee on December 01, 2016, 07:36:34 AM
Anytime the great man's name is mentioned, I have to bore the H and V parish that he's the reason I support Villa. Wishing him a speedy recovery.
Title: Re: Gary Shaw.
Post by: Villan For Life on December 01, 2016, 07:57:36 AM
As with many of our own he also got a lot of stick at times from part of the crowd.

I don't recall that at all. Where and when?

He did.  I remember we were playing Bristol City away, I think it was Boxing Day 1979.  He was playing poorly and the some of our fans' were giving him some stick.  Then, bang!  hat-trick.  No more stick, surprisingly.

Isn't that just an isolated incident though? The OP seemed to suggest that it was a regular occurrence.
Title: Re: Gary Shaw.
Post by: eamonn on December 01, 2016, 09:12:07 AM
How long would we have been able to hang on to him for if he'd reached his potential without the injuries?
Title: Re: Gary Shaw.
Post by: peter w on December 01, 2016, 09:49:21 AM
Not long. Barcelona were reportedly already apparently lining him up for a 'cool' £1m+ fee around 83 before his knees started to give.
Title: Re: Gary Shaw.
Post by: garyshawsknee on December 01, 2016, 09:55:59 AM
Wasn't Doug suppose to be negotiating that deal after the Super cup game ?
Title: Re: Gary Shaw.
Post by: OzVilla on December 01, 2016, 10:54:01 AM

For the record he was not a bad cricketer and would turn our for a local club regularly he brought the League Cup to the clubhouse for all the local kids to see and have photos taken

I played against him a couple of times when he was playing for Bourneville. I was keeping wicket and could barely control myself. Needless to say, there was no sledging that day.
Title: Re: Gary Shaw.
Post by: Diablo on December 01, 2016, 12:43:36 PM
As with many of our own he also got a lot of stick at times from part of the crowd.

Always seemed to me that Morley got stick from some of our fans as opposed to Shaw (I may have been more sensitive to it though as Morley was one of my favourite players at that time).
Title: Re: Gary Shaw.
Post by: badluckeric(gates) on December 01, 2016, 02:25:50 PM
Could have been an all time great. He had the instinct of Greaves in the penalty area.  Considering his size, he was very strong with the ball played up to him. His touch in playing in Withe and Morley was exceptional.
Like he plays in Dennis Mortimer for the second here.

https://youtu.be/ldOT57FtsIc



One of my favourite goals that I've seen scored live at Villa Park. That was the result when I started to really believe that we could win the league.

Get well soon Gary Shaw, Gary Shaw, Gary Gary Shaw.
I was in the Holte that day too and the memory of Dennis running straight at us clean through is still sharp today, and correct me if im wrong but i'm sure I recall we were all singing 'we'll be top by 5 o'clock. (and we were) great times.
Title: Re: Gary Shaw.
Post by: Oscar Arce on December 01, 2016, 02:28:39 PM
Saw Gary last Summer playing in a charity cricket match and at Edgbaston for the test match, he loves his cricket.
Sadly limping badly and on both occasions, but what a player he was.
Not just a goalscorer, he had clever link play and was particularly in tune with Sid on the pitch..what might have been but for that tackle by that twat Bowyer at Nottingham Forest.
Get well soon Gary, Villa ledge.
Title: Re: Gary Shaw.
Post by: old man villa fan on December 02, 2016, 03:07:28 AM
Could have been an all time great. He had the instinct of Greaves in the penalty area.  Considering his size, he was very strong with the ball played up to him. His touch in playing in Withe and Morley was exceptional.
Like he plays in Dennis Mortimer for the second here.

https://youtu.be/ldOT57FtsIc

The goal that showed his strength of holding the ball up was Tony Morley's goal at Everton when we won the League.  I will never forget that goal as we were front row of the seats above the Villa fans right behind the goal and knew as soon as he hit it that it was going to be a goal.
Title: Re: Gary Shaw.
Post by: dave shelley on December 02, 2016, 09:18:27 AM
Could have been an all time great. He had the instinct of Greaves in the penalty area.  Considering his size, he was very strong with the ball played up to him. His touch in playing in Withe and Morley was exceptional.
Like he plays in Dennis Mortimer for the second here.

https://youtu.be/ldOT57FtsIc

The goal that showed his strength of holding the ball up was Tony Morley's goal at Everton when we won the League.  I will never forget that goal as we were front row of the seats above the Villa fans right behind the goal and knew as soon as he hit it that it was going to be a goal.

I was at that match too.  I think I've posted before that, when the ball hit the net from Morley's shot, it was still picking up speed.  Also, wasn't our second goal by Denis Mortimer  very similar to the one scored by him against Liverpool that is currently being discussed.  A great game.
Title: Re: Gary Shaw.
Post by: LeeB on December 02, 2016, 12:11:35 PM
Could have been an all time great. He had the instinct of Greaves in the penalty area.  Considering his size, he was very strong with the ball played up to him. His touch in playing in Withe and Morley was exceptional.
Like he plays in Dennis Mortimer for the second here.

https://youtu.be/ldOT57FtsIc

The goal that showed his strength of holding the ball up was Tony Morley's goal at Everton when we won the League.  I will never forget that goal as we were front row of the seats above the Villa fans right behind the goal and knew as soon as he hit it that it was going to be a goal.

That touch and spin was outrageous.
Title: Re: Gary Shaw.
Post by: dave shelley on December 02, 2016, 12:44:54 PM
Gary Shaw was fouled as he played that ball through to Tony Morley which made it all the better.  As a referee I picked that up and, also noticed at the time that the referee played a great advantage, as at that time he couldn't have known that it would end up with a goal like that.

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