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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: The Fish on November 15, 2016, 11:26:14 AM
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Hi Lads,
Just curious about your opinions about Leeds United and it's fans before Newcastle face them on Sunday. Safe to say Newcastle fans have their opinions, but I was wondering what the view of Aston Villa fans are.
You're in a similar situation to us in that you; are a massive club, are recently relegated, haven't really had much to do with Leeds since their relegation, etc.
When the Championship calendar was released, did Leeds fixtures excite/worry/interest you? Any more so than, say, Derby or Forest?
If you could sum up Leeds United Football Club in 3 words, what would they be?
If you could sum up Leeds United fans in 3 words, what would they be?
What's your abiding memory of Leeds United FC?
What's your abiding memory of any Leeds fans you've encountered?
I'm going to ask a few other fanbases about Leeds to get a decent picture of their image in the league. But if you'd like me to add any questions, let me know.
Thanks for any answers
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When the Championship calendar was released, did Leeds fixtures excite/worry/interest you? Any more so than, say, Derby or Forest?
Yes, it was one I looked-out for as they are one of the biggest clubs down there and we haven't played them for a long time
If you could sum up Leeds United Football Club in 3 words, what would they be?
Johnny Giles Faded
If you could sum up Leeds United fans in 3 words, what would they be?
Boisterous but suffering
What's your abiding memory of Leeds United FC?
Savo out-Yeboah-ing Tony, Wembley, March 1996
What's your abiding memory of any Leeds fans you've encountered?
He was a bit of an eejit and wore a bloody Leeds navy and yellow woolly hat all winter during school one year. Think he had nits too.
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Why is a Newcastle fan interested in Villa fans opinion of Leeds?
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When the Championship calendar was released, did Leeds fixtures excite/worry/interest you? Any more so than, say, Derby or Forest?
Yes - bit of all three
If you could sum up Leeds United Football Club in 3 words, what would they be?
'Flew too close' or 'fall from grace'
If you could sum up Leeds United fans in 3 words, what would they be?
Passionate, loyal, aggressive
What's your abiding memory of Leeds United FC?
Agree with Eamonn - Wembly 1996
also visiting Elland road when I was about 13 (30 odd years ago) - never seen so many scarves
Upsetting the odds in 91-92 - great to see the Liverpool Arsenal stranglehold broken by a proper club
But mainly always think of the implosion. When a club is struggling we all worry about 'doing a Leeds'
What's your abiding memory of any Leeds fans you've encountered?
Can't say the word 'the'
To be honest I quite like Leeds and feel hugely for the fans following the relegations. They seem to me to be a 'proper club' a bit like the Villa.
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When the Championship calendar was released, did Leeds fixtures excite/worry/interest you? Any more so than, say, Derby or Forest?
If you could sum up Leeds United Football Club in 3 words, what would they be?
Perhaps the only thing to look forward to this season was some different away days. There's nobody in this league who I think we'd be worried about in terms of writing the game off, as you would say looking at when you've got Man United or Man City away in past seasons. I cannot say Leeds stuck out anymore than Derby or Forest; for me it was Small Heath and then it was places like Bristol City, Brighton, Preston where i'd not had the chance to go before.
If you could sum up Leeds United fans in 3 words, what would they be?
Smashed up Bournemouth.
What's your abiding memory of Leeds United FC?
The most one sided cup final I've ever seen in 1996 when you were lucky to get nil... until Arsenal hammered us the other year.
What's your abiding memory of any Leeds fans you've encountered?
Nothing out of the ordinary. Leeds have a reputation from the 80s, but I've not found them any different to the vast majority of match going fans. We all seem to carry the same hopes, fears and collective loathing of the modern game putting us on TV 5 games on the spin on Friday nights at Brighton, Tuesday Nights at Norwich or Sunday mornings at QPR.
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Big club, big support but not the classiest.
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I prefer Leeds fans to Newcastle fans. Recently they have been abhorent
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When the Championship calendar was released, did Leeds fixtures excite/worry/interest you? Any more so than, say, Derby or Forest?
Not for me as I have no affiliation with northern part of England. Leeds for 15-20 years once relegated whenever it was have been less successful than Derby in recent times when comes to premier league football and forest and derby have won the european cup
If you could sum up Leeds United Football Club in 3 words, what would they be?
proud Yorkshire club (though proud and Yorkshire go hand in hand right)
What's your abiding memory of Leeds United FC?
against villa that Harry kewell goal . Benitoe carbone goal. And Leeds United outright - Alan Smith some teenage player! Mark Viduka v Liverpool and the bowyer and Woodgate attacking student. The club Kaiser chiefs support.
What's your abiding memory of any Leeds fans you've encountered?
football wise- bias a bit short sighted and some real issue with southern folk . Though they have an admirable hatred for Manchester United. And respect for villa until our recent fall from grace. Other than that - I a fan of Leeds utd fans girls as met some on a vacation and they were very friendly great banter though I could nt understand some of there terms
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1/ Leeds should be a terrible warning to us...
2/ A mate of mine was from oop North and watched all the teams when they came to Midlands. He paid for drink so I would travel with him when Leeds played at Highfield Road. They were hideously racist and somewhat up for a fight (on a side note I also attended the Sty with him to support Newcastle. Afterwards I saw a jardie hit a police horse in the head with a hammer. I stopped going with Jim...
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Why is a Newcastle fan interested in Villa fans opinion of Leeds?
Are we saying he's a fish out of his waters. Ha.
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When the Championship calendar was released, did Leeds fixtures excite/worry/interest you? Any more so than, say, Derby or Forest?
More exciting than Rotherham and Brentford fixtures ! Derby and Forest games obviously have more interest being Midlands based.
If you could sum up Leeds United Football Club in 3 words, what would they be?
A fallen giant
If you could sum up Leeds United fans in 3 words, what would they be?
Very loyal supporters
What's your abiding memory of Leeds United FC?
Wembley 96 hammering and a couple of pretty scary trips there in the late 80's/early 90's where I was glad to get out in one piece
What's your abiding memory of any Leeds fans you've encountered?
See above !
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...and forest and derby have won the european cup
When was this then?
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When the Championship calendar was released, did Leeds fixtures excite/worry/interest you? Any more so than, say, Derby or Forest?
---They're on a level with Derby and Forest. There'll be decent crowds for both the home and way games and we haven't played them for a while so there's a bit of a novelty factor.
If you could sum up Leeds United Football Club in 3 words, what would they be?
--Living in't Past
If you could sum up Leeds United fans in 3 words, what would they be?
--A bunch of
What's your abiding memory of Leeds United FC?
--Seth Johnson's contract
What's your abiding memory of any Leeds fans you've encountered?
-- Them throwing coins at Wolves fans in the South Bank. Difficult to think of a more unpleasant set of supporters than Leeds
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It's really odd reading the responses and noticing how differently people view Leeds to the way I do. Must be an age thing because growing up listening to claims of them being as big, influential and successful as Victorian us, 30s Arsenal, 50s Mancs and 70s/80s Scouse was my first real encounter with utter delusion in football. If television was in every home and showing football in the 1920s, Huddersfield Town would be Leeds today. I don't reckon Leeds would have anything like the profile they do if their period of success had been-pre Match of the Day. Anyway, here goes:
When the Championship calendar was released, did Leeds fixtures excite/worry/interest you? Any more so than, say, Derby or Forest?
None of the fixtures against clubs we've played a lot of times in my lifetime really interested me. If I were to rank the three in order of most looking forward to though, I'd say Forest, Leeds, Derby. But Rotherham, Brentford, Preston, Brighton, etc are much more appetising.
If you could sum up Leeds United Football Club in 3 words, what would they be?
Made by television.
City's bastard offspring (one for the Herbert Chapman fans there).
Beneficiaries of hyperbole.
Victims of Sky
If you could sum up Leeds United fans in 3 words, what would they be?
Just like us.
What's your abiding memory of Leeds United FC?
The championship winning side of 1992. Perfect balance and what we could have been, but just feel short of, two years earlier.
What's your abiding memory of any Leeds fans you've encountered?
Home grown ones are just like us, but with a West Yorkshire attitude - not quite as arrogant as a Manc but less good company than people from Sheffield. The Revie diaspora on the other hand...
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When the Championship calendar was released, did Leeds fixtures excite/worry/interest you? Any more so than, say, Derby or Forest?
Yes
If you could sum up Leeds United Football Club in 3 words, what would they be?
Don Revie's Leeds
Allan "Sniffer" Clarke
Marching on Together
If you could sum up Leeds United fans in 3 words, what would they be?
70s glory hunters
What's your abiding memory of Leeds United FC?
Players wearing garters on their socks with numbers on them
What's your abiding memory of any Leeds fans you've encountered?
English version of Cardiff City fans - all coming from small pit villages in surrounding areas
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When the Championship calendar was released, did Leeds fixtures excite/worry/interest you? Any more so than, say, Derby or Forest?
Not really. Just another club from the 'lower' division.
If you could sum up Leeds United Football Club in 3 words, what would they be?
Believe they're big
If you could sum up Leeds United fans in 3 words, what would they be?
Unable to reason
What's your abiding memory of Leeds United FC?
Winning in 92 and then nearly going bust
What's your abiding memory of any Leeds fans you've encountered?
Not the nicest - even the nice ones.
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I have friends up there who are big Leeds fans and since they were relegated I've been up there for a meet up and a game at Elland Rd nearly every season.
Like every club, including Villa and Newcastle, most of their fans seem to be great people but quite a few are arseholes.
I've been in with their fans at a couple of away games in the midlands in recent years (wolves & Cov) and found them to be no different to Villa fans. Drink a lot, sing a lot, laugh a lot, moan a lot and lose a lot!
Garry Monk has got them playing well at the moment and I wouldn't be surprised to see them turn over Newcastle.
They're a good club but in the wrong hands and sooner or later the owner will undermine the manager and it'll be back to square one again.
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Why is a Newcastle fan interested in Villa fans opinion of Leeds?
That's the bit I'm struggling with too. I can honestly say I've never considered asking a Reading fan what his view of Blackburn is!
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They've only spent 50 years in the top flight haven't they? Small Heath level of tin pot is that.
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When the Championship calendar was released, did Leeds fixtures excite/worry/interest you? Any more so than, say, Derby or Forest?
On a par. One of the very few benefits of dropping down. The idea is more appealing than the reality, though. If our earlier games against Derby and Forest are anything to go by. Would be far better playing that lot in the top flight- with infinitely better players in all those sides. As it should be.
If you could sum up Leeds United Football Club in 3 words, what would they be?
Ridsdale's tropical fish
If you could sum up Leeds United fans in 3 words, what would they be?
Acceptable intha 80's
What's your abiding memory of Leeds United FC?
1996 and 2000
What's your abiding memory of any Leeds fans you've encountered?
Alreet. Don't seem to have the same need to be loved and praised like Toon fans, for example.
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When the Championship calendar was released, did Leeds fixtures excite/worry/interest you? Any more so than, say, Derby or Forest?
It was one of the fixtures that stood out. Whatever recent years has brought, the club still has some standing, especially if like me you're of a certain age.
If you could sum up Leeds United Football Club in 3 words, what would they be?
Don Revie's Leeds
Forty Four Days
Peter Ridsdale's gamble
If you could sum up Leeds United fans in 3 words, what would they be?
Marching On Together
Historically deluded optimists
Manchester United haters
What's your abiding memory of Leeds United FC?
Two Wembley Cup Finals - the first one I ever watched on a colour television (the F.A. Cup in 1973) and the last one that ended with the Villa lifting a trophy (the Coca Cola Cup in 1996).
What's your abiding memory of any Leeds fans you've encountered?
Two spring immediately to mind. Martin, who I shared a house with for a year as a student in the mid-80s. He spent virtually every penny he had on the Casual's holy trinity of designer clothes, train tickets and beer. I don't know if he was an accurate stereotype of the era or atypical, but he came from a small town in North Yorkshire and his perfect weekend was a ruck in somewhere like Oxford or Plymouth.
The other is a close friend and professional colleague, who was your typical 70s glory-hunter school boy, choosing Leeds over his local also-rans (in his case, Bolton). I can tell you this much, on more than occasion over the last couple of decades he's regretted not going to Burnden Park with his dad and brother.
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...and forest and derby have won the european cup
When was this then?
Under Brian clough he was first manager to win with 2 different and also provincial clubs or something is the stat. But he won eurpeam cup twice that main reason hes considered a great. Leeds I think wanted same glory but he didnt last there
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Have I missed something?
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Derby County have NEVER won the European Cup!!!!!
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So I haven't missed anything?
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No Mate it defo is not you with the thinking problem
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I'll be perfectly honest with you, I lost a few years back in the 80's and it could have happened then you see, but I'm happy to take your word for it
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I thought Leeds were the team that won an imaginary european cup.
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my abiding memory is that Sunday game in 91(?) where we got stuffed 4-1 at home. Never seen so much trouble at VP. There must have been about 20k in the ground and around half was Leeds. Went off everywhere and we were awful. Not my best day out.
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...and forest and derby have won the european cup
When was this then?
Under Brian clough he was first manager to win with 2 different and also provincial clubs or something is the stat. But he won eurpeam cup twice that main reason hes considered a great. Leeds I think wanted same glory but he didnt last there
Damn skillz. For the 1st time I'm starting to doubt your credibility as a football sensei. Not only, as others have pointed out (as if it was needed?), the mighty Rams have never won the EC with or without Clough's help and he didn't steer Forest to their two greatest achievements until after he was jettisoned from LUFC.
Never again will I hang on to your every word.
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Never understood their song champions of Europe, am I missing something. Outdated stadium, don't like their city centre one bit
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I don't like Leeds at all but do feel a bit sorry for the 50% of their fans who aren't racist, violent twats for the shite they have gone through over the last decade or so.
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Derby County have NEVER won the European Cup!!!!!
oh there you go, pissing on the fireworks.
but Small heath
no I cant.
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Hi Lads,
Just curious about your opinions about Leeds United and it's fans before Newcastle face them on Sunday. Safe to say Newcastle fans have their opinions, but I was wondering what the view of Aston Villa fans are.
You're in a similar situation to us in that you; are a massive club, are recently relegated, haven't really had much to do with Leeds since their relegation, etc.
When the Championship calendar was released, did Leeds fixtures excite/worry/interest you? Any more so than, say, Derby or Forest?
If you could sum up Leeds United Football Club in 3 words, what would they be?
If you could sum up Leeds United fans in 3 words, what would they be?
What's your abiding memory of Leeds United FC?
What's your abiding memory of any Leeds fans you've encountered?
I'm going to ask a few other fanbases about Leeds to get a decent picture of their image in the league. But if you'd like me to add any questions, let me know.
Thanks for any answers
why I diva nea man. some team from up norf.
ya bugger, why its grim up norf yea nae.
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Apologies clough won the league in england not the european cups well not with derby. Leeds and derby are similar to me with forest bigger than both . I only got mixed up as wasnt around wjen all thst 70 amd 80s stuff happened.
Leeds Newcastle will be interesting on Saturday. Interesting how many Newcastle win by. Same when they play liverpool in league cup. I think leeds really looking forward to villa more thsn we are them but thats burdem villa as the tradional and historic club have to bear .
Apologies again as i had heard clough had done the unthinkable and won titleswith derby and forest but fidnt realise it was domestic.
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I don't like Leeds at all but do feel a bit sorry for the 50% of their fans who aren't racist, violent twats for the shite they have gone through over the last decade or so.
Don't feel sorry for them. They're all Leeds Rhino fans now and enjoying the glory days again.
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A thread about Leeds started by a Newcastle fan seems a bit out of place here. Go and play up your own end.