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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: UK Redsox on October 18, 2016, 07:05:56 PM
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Jedi & GG
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Dave - doesn't really seem to be much point having a new thread following the down time
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Seeing our starting eleven really hits home how much of a Championship side we are.
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yeesh..
Cissokho, Hutton and Baker in the back; Gardner paired with Jedinak :o
I do not see us getting a result with that line up, hope I am wrong.
No Ayew is criminal especially with Jack out.
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Jedi & GG
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double help fuck me
they are both leaving the dressing room now so they can make it to the pitch by 755
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Seeing our starting eleven really hits home how much of a Championship side we are.
it really pile-drives it into you face
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I'm currently stood outside the away end thinking that walking straight back to the car might be the best move
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I see the tombola is being used to pick the team again. How Cissokho be picked after sat is beyond me. No Ayew is pretty shocking too.
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Seeing our starting eleven really hits home how much of a Championship side we are.
it really pile-drives it into you face
The bench would probably beat them.
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I see the tombola is being used to pick the team again. How Cissokho be picked after sat is beyond me. No Ayew is pretty shocking too.
Totally agree. I think it's going to be hoofball today. Jedinak and Gardner deep, Bacuna will be defensive minded and provided deep service. This looks like a line-up that is built to win the game on a late corner.
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Totally speechless.WTF?
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Thing is, if Forest for example put out a side with Gardner and Jedinak in, and that front 2, people would think it looked decent for this league. So they are capable of getting a result. Bruce's style might suit Gardner, and I am pleased with Gestede and Kodjia up front, I think if you are going to be pretty direct those 2 should create havoc, Adomah gives width and Bacuna can cross. It will be interesting to see if he tucks in to make a 3 a fair bit.
Not much you could do at the back of you play Bacuna in midfield and I think we need his running in there.
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Oh, for fucks sake. No Tish? No Ayew? No midfield 3?
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Yes, if we're talking the Jedi we thought we were getting not the decaying carcass that we actually have
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Surely amavi should be starting? Anyway reading 1-2 villa
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I have no opinion or thoughts on the team lineup, formation or plan for tonight.
We have been watching and suffering for long enough to just think, fuck it, let's see what happens this time, with this particular lot.
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It might be a 3 in midfield with Kodjia wide in a 451.
Ayew might still not be 100% either and only have 20 minutes in him, took a knock away with Ghana.
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I'm currently stood outside the away end thinking that walking straight back to the car might be the best move
We might think it but we never do it.
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It is not what I expected, but I am behind SB and the team!
Come on Villa!
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I have no opinion or thoughts on the team lineup, formation or plan for tonight.
We have been watching and suffering for long enough to just think, fuck it, let's see what happens this time, with this particular lot.
A bit why I am trying to see the bright side. We have picked line ups we are happy with and lost, so fuck it, see what Bruce has been working on.
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How it feels when you look and see that line up.
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well at least he knows Westwood is shit and Im quite happy RMc has been dropped but was expecting Ayew to replace him . I havent a problem with Baker as Boon as been shite , not sure how Aly gets a start .
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How do we fail to have "do you think playing two shit midfielders as our entire midfield is a good idea?" as one of the interview questions?
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tish for GG and Ayew for Rudy would have been better
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The only thing I can think of that justifies that line up is maybe Bruce wants to get a decent look at all of his options in a match.
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It's the `everyone gets a clean slate' phase of team selection. That's all i can think.
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Yes it's shaping in to a Steve Bruce team.
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Well I thought our line up looked brilliant against Wolves, as I did many times last season once Timmy the Twat left. I'm always way off the mark so maybe that line up tonight it might surprise me?
Proably not. I'm going 3-1 to them.
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It's the `everyone gets a clean slate' phase of team selection. That's all i can think.
except Gabby..
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That has to be the slowest central midfield in the history of world football.
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It could be any number of formations, no idea just yet, I just really really want to see a 90 minute performance and a result for us, please, for fuck sake I know it's often said in football that no one deserves or has a right to anything but our form is not bordering on but is an actual disgrace and the support DO deserve a win.
Please Villa, there's another 4,000+ there tonight, you haven't won away in over a year, just roll your socks up and fucking fight, move, concentrate and win for them.
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in fairness whoever he picks out of all the midfield players we have to choose from
it will always look shit
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How can a manager go into a game with Baker starting and not have a central defender on the bench ?
Surely there's someone in the U23s or maybe Toner could have been called back
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I have no opinion or thoughts on the team lineup, formation or plan for tonight.
We have been watching and suffering for long enough to just think, fuck it, let's see what happens this time, with this particular lot.
My feelings entirely.
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Gestede starting? He'll learn.
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How can a manager go into a game with Baker starting and not have a central defender on the bench ?
Surely there's someone in the U23s or maybe Toner could have been called back
I assume Hutton would go to CB and Bacuna to RB if needed. Yay!
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He's looking at all his options and narrow them down to the least shit-est.
Please not another Preston.
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I have no opinion or thoughts on the team lineup, formation or plan for tonight.
We have been watching and suffering for long enough to just think, fuck it, let's see what happens this time, with this particular lot.
My feelings entirely.
Mine too.
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Pretty grim team, but maybe that's just what we are at the moment. Or maybe I have just had my expectations systematically lowered again.
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He's looking at all his options and narrow them down to the least shit-est.
Please not another Preston.
That's what I think.
However, he claimed mid-week that we weren't fit enough for this stage of the season and he pairs JEDINAK AND GARDNER and plays Rudy :o and leaves Tshibola and Ayew on the bench.
Hoof or bust.
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It's hoofball time for the foreseeable future. At least it should mean nobody has to think. Just leather the fucker. Our lot can just about grasp that.
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I claim 23 minutes in the "Baker has treatment for injury" sweepstake
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It's hoofball time for the foreseeable future. At least it should mean nobody has to think. Just leather the fucker. Our lot can just about grasp that.
Oh for the days of James Collins lumping it one.
Baker can't do that, he'll pull a hamstring
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I reckon I could outpace our entire midfield. No bother.
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I claim 23 minutes in the "Baker has treatment for injury" sweepstake
no way he'll make 23 minutes
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Has Eric Black returned? Sorry, that's a shite line-up. Tshibola, Ayew, Amavi & McCormack on the bench? a fucking joke!
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I claim 23 minutes in the "Baker has treatment for injury" sweepstake
I reckon he'll come off after 12 minutes. Cause: bruised vagina.
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That's a terrible looking team. Straight forward 2-0 win to us then.
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442 with two wingers. Bacuna has the best delivery a the club. Keep it simple, we should win this.
I've been saying for ages that we're trying to play too intricately. We'll be better off without any of Grealish, Ayew or McCormack in the side IMO. Prove me right lads!
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Pity Bunn is a goalie. We could have a world first Happy Families substitution when Baker goes off.
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It's hoofball time for the foreseeable future. At least it should mean nobody has to think. Just leather the fucker. Our lot can just about grasp that.
Are you sure??
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Might just munch on a few raw jalapenos for 90 minutes. Or one of those ghost chillies.
Got to be more pleasurable than any performance that ragtag bunch o' batstewards can deliver.
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I don't like to appear pessimistic but I'm not too hopeful of a result with that team.
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Can't stand seeing Cissokho start but Baker in place of Elphick is fine by me. Can't understand Ayew on the bench and am sure Tish would have loved to start against his old side. Oh well.
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Seeing our starting eleven really hits home how much of a Championship side we are.
it really pile-drives it into you face
Ever remember a Wrestler called Rikishi? Well it really stink faces it into your face. That's a piss poor lineup. If we play 4-3-3 we may get away with it, with Bacuna joining GG and Jedi, but then Kodija gets prodded out wide. But as a four-four-fucking-two, whilst it could be beneficial if we're able to pelt crosses in, that central two is fucking hideously slow.
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It's hoofball time for the foreseeable future. At least it should mean nobody has to think. Just leather the fucker. Our lot can just about grasp that.
My thoughts too-he must intend to pretty much bypass midfield. Maybe it is the Championship way-but I doubt it.
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Let's hope all Reading's midfielders are donkey plodders with no pace or energy.
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It's hoofball time for the foreseeable future. At least it should mean nobody has to think. Just leather the fucker. Our lot can just about grasp that.
My thoughts too-he must intend to pretty much bypass midfield. Maybe it is the Championship way-but I doubt it.
Equally it may be that he's resigned himself to the fact we actually have no midfield until he can rectify it in January.
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We're gonna dick 'em. Kodj will run riot with space, which he should get now Gestede is up there with him.
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I think there's commentary on WM. Woohoo!
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Mind you, it's so batshit crazy, it might just work.
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It's going to be embarrassing for Reading losing to that lot.
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The only 8pm ko. Is it on the tv?
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Pretty shit line up. Kodjia and Gestede up top, no creativity, Ayew should be in especially as Grealish is banned, weedy midfield, Tish is obviously made of glass, but on the upside two games in a row Pointy has been benched. Hate to say it but can't see us getting anything with that team. Prove me wrong Mr Bruce
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Mind you, it's so batshit crazy, it might just work.
indeed, a plan so cunning you could put a tail on it and call it a weasel
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Absolutely tom. Miss them and their fancy stuff out. Leather the fucker. Where is that plonker Tonev when you really need a Row Z specialist? Fucking twats all the fucking lot of them. I could pick a better line up than that and I am deranged.
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The only 8pm ko. Is it on the tv?
Doubt it, it's a Chumps League night
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Liam Moore isnt a bad player for them . Would have been ok for us in the summer on a free
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Not live on TV. Live commentary on WM and dodgy Facebook phones.
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Seeing our starting eleven really hits home how much of a Championship side we are.
More Brylcreem needed
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Let's hope all Reading's midfielders are donkey plodders with no pace or energy.
They'd be playing for us, surely?
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The only 8pm ko. Is it on the tv?
No. Teams get to choose their preferred midweek kickoff time at the start of the season.
Most choose 7.45 but Reading chose 8.
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I'm glad Gestede's playing.
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Doesn't look as though there's any commentary on AVTV. Have to rely on text updates I guess
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The only 8pm ko. Is it on the tv?
No. Teams get to choose their preferred midweek kickoff time at the start of the season.
Most choose 7.45 but Reading chose 8.
we dont do well starting at 7.45 anyway
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Absolutely tom. Miss them and their fancy stuff out. Leather the fucker. Where is that plonker Tonev when you really need a Row Z specialist? Fucking twats all the fucking lot of them. I could pick a better line up than that and I am deranged.
Reading that, I've decided to stick around for the game. It promises to be a very entertaining evening. Over to you, Brian.
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Let's hope all Reading's midfielders are donkey plodders with no pace or energy.
I honestly thought this whole league was such, yet we're 20th.
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What a shit starting line-up.
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they havent got a good record against us , so maybe another thing that will change .
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Is there commentary through the OS or do I have to swallow a principle or two and actually listen direct to WM?
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Hmmm....countdown to the game on AVFC 4 mins... shouldn't they be up and running.
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I'm hoping somebody will stream the commentary.
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At least it only took Bruce one game to suss out what a c***t Richards is.
#Positives
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At least it only took Bruce one game to suss out what a c***t Richards is.
#Positives
Don't count on it. The twat is injured.
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Is there commentary through the OS or do I have to swallow a principle or two and actually listen direct to WM?
Can't find a commentary on AVTV so looks like it's either WM on FM or text updates. My tuner is DAB only so I can't even listen to WM - oh for the days of dodgy streams for PL games.....
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Can anyone with AVTV help? I can't find a link for the live commentary on the web site - can anyone direct me to it please?
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I want to see Gestede starting most games. As long as we give him quick service I see him being our most effective front man. There's no subtlety to his game, but we've tried subtlety and it didn't work. He's not started many this season but he's still our top scorer. In the championship a good lump up front is effective. We then have the option to play RM or Kodija off him depending whether we want some guile or we want some pace.
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The only 8pm ko. Is it on the tv?
No. Teams get to choose their preferred midweek kickoff time at the start of the season.
Most choose 7.45 but Reading chose 8.
we dont do well starting at 7.45 anyway
Nor, 12 noon, 3pm and 4pm.
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At least it only took Bruce one game to suss out what a c***t Richards is.
#Positives
Not quite, he's injured.
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and it is there now.
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The only 8pm ko. Is it on the tv?
No. Teams get to choose their preferred midweek kickoff time at the start of the season.
Most choose 7.45 but Reading chose 8.
we dont do well starting at 7.45 anyway
Or at 3 o'clock.
Or 2, 4, midday...
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Anyone else having problems getting the commentary on the official site?
Ignore me already done
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I am as mad as hell and I can't take it any more. Why CAN'T we have a midfield of Bunn and Baker? It's little enough to ask? So one is a goalie. So fucking WHAT. We lose all our games anyway, why can't we get on Question of Sport for having a midfield of Mr Bunn the Baker? At least some fucking thing to laugh at. Everton very nearly had Bell, Book and Kendall and look how well they are playing. Fucking twats the lot of them.
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If the player doesn't start, just expand it to fullscreen, and it should start (and Escape key to get out of it)
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KO time.
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https://www.periscope.tv/paul_1874/1dRJZRpWoAgJB for anyone unable to get WM online
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Has Brian lost the plot or have I missed something?
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Wow. Ok.
Well new managers get to try out things to get a look at all players I guess.
Lets hope it works out.
it wont
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442 with two wingers. Bacuna has the best delivery a the club. Keep it simple, we should win this.
I've been saying for ages that we're trying to play too intricately. We'll be better off without any of Grealish, Ayew or McCormack in the side IMO. Prove me right lads!
I think you might be right. There is balance there - but, both Jedi and Gary need to put in their performances of the season.
UTV
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If the player doesn't start, just expand it to fullscreen, and it should start (and Escape key to get out of it)
I know that trick Edvard - can't even see a player link to expand.
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First overhit pass straight into touch by Jedi was after two seconds for those spot betting
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That team is set up to play survival football, not promotion football. But to be honest that might just be what's required.
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Sorted now - thanks for the assistance.
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It was there 1 min before kick-off on my PC (CTRL + F5 to hard refresh browser)
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I am as mad as hell and I can't take it any more. Why CAN'T we have a midfield of Bunn and Baker? It's little enough to ask? So one is a goalie. So fucking WHAT. We lose all our games anyway, why can't we get on Question of Sport for having a midfield of Mr Bunn the Baker? At least some fucking thing to laugh at. Everton very nearly had Bell, Book and Kendall and look how well they are playing. Fucking twats the lot of them.
Calm down Wayne.
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Are we losing yet?
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Listening to WM and then watching it live 10 seconds later on Facebook. I get to experience us being shit twice!
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Listening to WM and then watching it live 10 seconds later on Facebook. I get to experience us being shit twice!
Which Facebook group shows it?
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No yet Blues have gone 1 up though.
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Listening to WM and then watching it live 10 seconds later on Facebook. I get to experience us being shit twice!
Which Facebook group shows it?
I would like to know this as well.
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Great run by McCafu
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OS version of WM commentary is a bit behind FM as well.
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OS not even loading now. Might have to go and sit in the car to listen on FM >:(
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the official site coverage is shite
it needs sorting
just like the team
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Listening to WM and then watching it live 10 seconds later on Facebook. I get to experience us being shit twice!
Which Facebook group shows it?
I would like to know this as well.
me too
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it's all taking its toll on Brian what with the crap team, Brexit and the rest
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Listening to WM and then watching it live 10 seconds later on Facebook. I get to experience us being shit twice!
Which Facebook group shows it?
I would like to know this as well.
me too
Thirded
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Seems to be working if you don't live in the area.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/player/bbc_radio_berkshire
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Someone streaming it here but lousy view. https://www.facebook.com/faceplantdan/videos/10210998185529841/
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I woke up from a nice little nap to that team, utter shite.
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I am okay. Just trying to make you laugh.
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hutton bloody ell
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Villa fans sound in good voice
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Sounds like a riveting match.
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I am okay. Just trying to make you laugh.
Cheers Brian, I'm half way through a very nice red so I'm mellowing
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hutton bloody ell
At the game?
And what does that mean?
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5 across midfield eh? According to commentary. Sounds like a solid plan tbf.
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There's a FKW in the home section
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A better view https://www.facebook.com/L30N.BD/videos/10154674800887899/
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There's a FKW in the home section
What's one of those?
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https://www.periscope.tv/paul_1874/1dRJZRpWoAgJB for anyone unable to get WM online
Many thanks, Russon, you're a gent.
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There's a FKW in the home section
What's one of those?
Full kit wanker.
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There's a FKW in the home section
What's one of those?
Full kit wanker.
Ah, gotcha.
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Have we scored yet?
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The FKW is probably Gabby. Decided he did want to play for them after all.
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Gestede on the left wing Kodjia on the right wing and Albert uo top.....apparently!
This may change!
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Have we scored yet?
good one.
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ez has beat me to the links I found. I was distracted with a phone call!
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Have we scored yet?
let's not get ideas above our station, we've crossed the halfway line twice already what more do you want?
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rags 1-1 Rotherham
rags 2-1 Rotherham
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I don't care how ugly it is if we somehow land the 3 points.
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Can't even get it on AVTV !!
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Gestede on the left wing Kodjia on the right wing and Albert uo top.....apparently!
This may change!
Do Villa managers actively try to take the piss as much as possible in the last five years? I hope that's not genuinely a game plan.
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Too fucking cold to sit in the car to listen to WM on FM, but come back in the warm to find AVTV commentary working.
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Gestede on the left wing Kodjia on the right wing and Albert uo top.....apparently!
This may change!
Where'd you get that?
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We are playing really really really deep.
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Can't even get it on AVTV !!
does this help?
https://www.avfc.co.uk/live?matchdetails=1
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Watching it from the away end on periscope.. it doesn't look like we've even held the ball yet?
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Looks like we're tiring already
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Gestede on the left wing Kodjia on the right wing and Albert uo top.....apparently!
This may change!
Where'd you get that?
Was mentioned in commentary earlier when clearer a corner I think.
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Looks like we're tiring already
The fans you mean? ;)
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Listening to WM and we sound so defensive. 30 yard gap between Gestede and the midfield??
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I don't care how ugly it is if we somehow land the 3 points.
Sounds like we are sitting deep, and playing not to lose. Steve Bruce special.
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Gestede on the left wing Kodjia on the right wing and Albert uo top.....apparently!
This may change!
Where'd you get that?
WM
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30 yard gap between Rudy and other Villa players? Doesn't sound very adventurous.
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Can't even get it on AVTV !!
Live stream
https://www.facebook.com/L30N.BD/videos/10154674800887899/
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Can't even get it on AVTV !!
does this help?
https://www.avfc.co.uk/live?matchdetails=1
Thanks. This could be the night. !!
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Jedi is even worse than Sat
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Radio commentator just said that Jedinak passed it straight to Reading. Still jet lagged I expect.
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73% possession Reading.
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Radio commentator just said that Jedinak passed it straight to Reading. Still jet lagged I expect.
Jed lagged?
I'll get me coat....
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hutton bloody ell
At the game?
And what does that mean?
shocking cross when he had all the time in the world
;)
we are a bit dull
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Wish we bought that twat Barton instead of Jedi. If we wanted that sort of player, at least he can pass the ball.
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Reading dominating play and possession. These results won't change under Bruce or anyone until this joke of a midfield is changed with different personnel who unfortunately are not at the football club.
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This sounds Dan Brown levels of bad.
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From the official twitter
#ReadingFC 0-0 #AVFC – MATCH PIC: Fine start! Gardner, along with Jedinak, protecting the back four. Forwards look dangerous. #REAAVL
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AVTV for subscribers...
https://www.avfc.co.uk/Fixtures/2010%20to%202019/2016-2017/English%20Football%20League%20-%20Championship/Reading%20vs%20Aston%20Villa?MatchDetails=1 (https://www.avfc.co.uk/Fixtures/2010%20to%202019/2016-2017/English%20Football%20League%20-%20Championship/Reading%20vs%20Aston%20Villa?MatchDetails=1)
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Radio commentator just said that Jedinak passed it straight to Reading. Still jet lagged I expect.
Jed lagged?
I'll get me coat....
Jedi nakerered?
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Right, I am off for lunch. Japanese curry of anyone is interested :) Good luck!
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Our attacks break down way too softly.
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This is wank so far. Only positive is they aren't creating anything.
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rags 1-1 Rotherham
rags 2-1 Rotherham
Fuck them twats. I'm only bothered about the Villa. If we can keep this up we might avoid relegation.
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Why yet again are players played out of position? A game and a bit in and BFS's pissing me off already
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From the official twitter
#ReadingFC 0-0 #AVFC – MATCH PIC: Fine start! Gardner, along with Jedinak, protecting the back four. Forwards look dangerous. #REAAVL
Blimey, even Trump would be embarrassed to Tweet that nonsense
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We have had chances if you believe BBC live text. Gardner and Kodjia efforts saved, admomah just shot wide
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Just 12 pages for this half ....must be some sort of record?
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Gap toothed Gary Cotterill on SSN just said Villa are edging it on chances and possession?
Is he at the right game?
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Steve Bruce must wondering what the fuck he just took over. It's like players join Villa and they contract the flu permanently.
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I reckon we'll win 2-1 with a late Penalty. ;)
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Bloody typical Villa, yet another late goal when we were comfortable to get a point.
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I reckon we'll win 2-1 with a late Penalty. ;)
Are you high? We'll throw it away and lose 3-2
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Strange night last night - a minute's silence was impeccably observed for the late king of Thailand, who was just a boy prince when we last won away.
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I reckon we'll win 2-1 with a late Penalty. ;)
Don't be so bloody ridickelarse! :o
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It may have been born of necessity, but setting us up tight and bringing on the genuine game changers with 15 mins to go is a simple yet clever strategy for a team that constantly ships late goals.
It's those little things that you get from a proper, experienced manager that make the difference.
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Four points out of the last six.....mmm...marvellous!
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Is this now the combined match and post match thread?
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Four points out of the last six.....mmm...marvellous!
Isn't it? You know....hmmnn
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Strange night last night - a minute's silence was impeccably observed for the late king of Thailand, who was just a boy prince when we last won away.
I am pleased we did it for King Bhumibol Adulyadej.
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Keep the same team, with Amavi in for Cissokho, against Fulham. Make the substitutions a tad earlier. We can win again.
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Wot No Post-Match Thread?
ps The site seemed to crash last night & I've only just been able to get it back. Clearly the shock of an away win goes even further than just the Villa faithful! ;D
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Is this now the combined match and post match thread?
We cannot ever, ever have a single post match thread again now.
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I felt diabolical yesterday, so didn't follow the game. I'm taking full credit! But how was the performance?
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But don't look back in anger, I heard you say!
That's been in my head all day. A new anthem is born? Very apt lyrics for us aswell!
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Typical, we win and the site goes down. I had so much to say as well.........ending in whoop whoop UTV
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I got asked not to celebrate our 1st goal as sat in the home end, at half-time a group of us all Villa were moved to the away end, we stood on the disabled concourse. We went ape as threat pen went in. Great evening.
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Can we make an actual Post-Match Thread?
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But don't look back in anger, I heard you say!
That's been in my head all day. A new anthem is born? Very apt lyrics for us aswell!
Me too, had it on repeat on my phone/headphones at my desk
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It was that curse being lifted that broke even this website, just shows how heavy it was on us all.
And breathe..........
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Any links to goals?
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Extended highlights on official site
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Great result and hopefully the start of the run we've all been waiting for. Good to see us getting up Jaap Stam's nose and that he has inherited the graciousness of his former boss when losing. No way will Kodjia be given the first goal once the dubious goals committee look at it I reckon, it will be OG I think.
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Great result and hopefully the start of the run we've all been waiting for. Good to see us getting up Jaap Stam's nose and that he has inherited the graciousness of his former boss when losing. No way will Kodjia be given the first goal once the dubious goals committee look at it I reckon, it will be OG I think.
Original shot was on target, so the goal is his and can't be changed.
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Great result and hopefully the start of the run we've all been waiting for. Good to see us getting up Jaap Stam's nose and that he has inherited the graciousness of his former boss when losing. No way will Kodjia be given the first goal once the dubious goals committee look at it I reckon, it will be OG I think.
Original shot was on target, so the goal is his and can't be changed.
I hope so
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It would appear we employed some actual tactics yesterday. Let them have the ball and run around a lot in the first half. Change it to try to pick them off second. Throw on the extra quality and go for the jugular in the last 15.
This tactics lark might catch on you know.
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Any links to goals?
Legion's facebook has a great shot of the penalty with the away support in the background. Absolutely mental!
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It would appear we employed some actual tactics yesterday. Let them have the ball and run around a lot in the first half. Change it to try to pick them off second. Throw on the extra quality and go for the jugular in the last 15.
This tactics lark might catch on you know.
I like tactics. I usually keep a packet in my van l.
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The lad on YouTube whose phone got bollocksed in the celebrations was quite funny as well.
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Highlights (http://www.skysports.com/football/reading-vs-a-villa/358265)
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It goes without saying about how good a win is etc ?
Cissokho is becoming a bloody liability though isn't he?
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Great stuff. I am pleased to have been utterly wrong about the line up and in particular Gary Gardner. Good job all around!
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That Reading cross/shot at end through Amavi's legs, miracle how it didn't end up in net.
Hope we never seen that 11 again, it was like a side Eric Black would pick
History written by winners etc
For those at the game, what ratings would you give to the players?
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Joy to the world , Steve Bruce has arrived, and villa have won a game
when Saturday comes , keep this team, please.
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Joy to the world , Steve Bruce has arrived, and villa have won a game
when Saturday comes , keep this team, please.
I don't know about the team. We were tactically set up to do a job, it'll need to change for a home game.
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Steve Bruce has arrived
I realised at the final whistle last night, amidst the wild scenes, that Bruce's name wasn't mentioned once in any chants throughout the game. I could be wrong, but if it was I didn't hear it.
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Alright, well can we atleast keep that wonderful 4500 fans together to show us homies how to celebrate, definitely the twelth man last night, I applaud you all.
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Good to have the place back and like others have already said, thanks Martin for all the hard work.
Haven't seen the game apart from the highlights so it's hard to comment on the performance really but if the commentary was anything to go by, we seemed to have a game plan which was working until Cissokho put his foot in it again. Let's hope this gives us the confidence to go on a run.
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Good to have the place back and like others have already said, thanks Martin for all the hard work.
Haven't seen the game apart from the highlights so it's hard to comment on the performance really but if the commentary was anything to go by, we seemed to have a game plan which was working until Cissokho put his foot in it again. Let's hope this gives us the confidence to go on a run.
I really don't understand why Cissokho did that when there was no need.at all.
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Yes, thank you Martin. My son and I agreed that communication via H and V is essential for a game like that to sink in. That level of release has to be shared.
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Yes, thank you Martin. My son and I agreed that communication via H and V is essential for a game like that to sink in. That level of release has to be shared.
I didn't absorb the result truly until I got into work (with a swagger) and the first person said "good win at last!" - then it was REAL!
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Bruce's on-field Post Match interview for those who haven't seen it.
https://twitter.com/villareport/status/788495876301975552
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Nice of Hutton to track their scorer into the box from the pen save......
I'm sure we will all take the win and hopefully a big confidence boost. Tactically Bruce saw our previous issues and played a three man midfield. Also set up to save energy so we didn't run out is steam second half. Bring big players on towards the end to grab the win. Great stuff. Will be interesting to see how we set up on Saturday. Credit to Gollini who played well and to be fair the Jed saw us over the line towards the end of the game.
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I think we have discovered the secret. It's ignoring the fact that it's an away match and putting Villa first in the Match thread😊
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Yessssssssssssssssss GET IN. Love Ayew. Lovely penalty.
Hang the fuck on now Villa!!!!
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It feels a bit like some Earth shattering disaster has happened and everyone has died whenever H&V goes down. It's just horrible😥
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Edit. Not in this interview :)
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Very pleased with last night.
Good to see us line up 433.
I thought we contained them with ease first half. Looked solid and denied them room. They created nothing.
Incidentally it was Bacuna, who played well centrally, pressing on his own that created the space for them to find McLeary for their penalty.
We were not incisive, but we did have the better chances and largely restricted them to long diagonals once all the midfield pressed.
Gardner drifted in and out the game, I was advocating bringing Tshibola on for more legs, but he came into it the last ten minutes. Jedinak was better second half and the subs made telling contributions.
Just brilliant to get an away win. My voice is horse from the shouting.
We were functional and organised. Perfect for formula for an away game. If we can just build on the result then the confidence with our quality should hopefully start to tell.
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Yes, thank you Martin. My son and I agreed that communication via H and V is essential for a game like that to sink in. That level of release has to be shared.
I didn't absorb the result truly until I got into work (with a swagger) and the first person said "good win at last!" - then it was REAL!
I walked in and said to the first person I saw (another Villa fan) "good morning on this glorious day".
Almost forgotten how it feels to actually win a game.
Slightly worried that we can only beat teams beginning with R
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He doesn't really make any reference to RDM in that interview.
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He doesn't really make any reference to RDM in that interview.
Sorry I will edit my post.
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First match for some 3 years (no excuse not go when it's down the road). Observations were that although some of our individuals are not quite up to scratch if you play as a team then you can overcome your weak links. Always difficult to tell from the telly or highlights and having not. Even for 3 years I have no reference point, but I saw a team and I saw them seeing out a plan. The staggering thing is it we not rocket science!
I watched Brucey closely and he was calm, collected, in control, whilst simultaneously barking out orders. After numerous attempts I think we have got a manager at last. The joy at the end was to behold, it just from our incredible fans,
But from the players too. They actually looked they enjoyed it! And all this in less than a week
Long may it continue
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Great stuff, but one thing is playing on my mind.
"What did you think of Gary Gardner and Nathan Baker, Steve?"
"I thought they were excellent."
Nooooooooooo!
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It was Hutton that surprised me. He played excellent.
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It goes without saying about how good a win is etc ?
Cissokho is becoming a bloody liability though isn't he?
Becoming?
He's been a nightmare throughout: his positioning is abysmal.
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.... My voice is horse from the shouting ...
Neigh, surely not?!
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Doh!
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I went last night.
Bruce had got us set up extremely rigid and solid in the first half.I reckon we've spent the last 2/3 training sessions working on this..We tracked across in a system that left very little room for them to thread the ball through as they'd done on the highlights I've seen.Leaving them constantly trying to switch it long which suited Cisshoko and Hutton.Good..A structure.Whilst they had plenty of the round thing,it didn't seem threatening.We huffed at times,and were guilty of panicky clearances.
Plenty of positives in the second..Although our usual Benny Hill moment arrived and we conceded,for the first time in ages,adversity seemed to inspire more effort.From then on,we closed down more aggressively upfield and looked as though we were effective on the counter.
We'd made our way onto the concourse,hoping to beat the rush ,when Ayew tantalised and teased..Cue utter pandemonium and the kind of scenes nobody imagined we'd witness at Reading away in the championship..
Thought Bacuna made an effective difference...Gardner had glimpses..whisper it but Jedinak was more solid amd aggressive..still with the odd rick...Hutton and Cisshoko were utterly shanking with the ball..Chester read and marshalled very well..Kodija always a threat..Cannot see what the Giraffe brings to the party..
Hats off to Reading,excellent prices...Villa footage at Half time in the bars etc...Barstaff wearing B6 Birmingham t-shirts.Hats off to us too..Loud and proud..They need the"fickle" (My chats) fanbase to pull them through..And we've tried,
Took my son,who's last away was Sunderland when we ran riot...He's still watching the endless Twitter footage.
Absolutely legged it at fulltime, to get back to the car to beat the rush.
All the time,contemplating how the HandV post match would explode in orgasmic love...
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Wish I was there !
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It goes without saying about how good a win is etc ?
Cissokho is becoming a bloody liability though isn't he?
Becoming?
He's been a nightmare throughout: his positioning is abysmal.
Cissokho is like Richards, athletic, powerful, all the attributes of a modern footballer, apart from the being able to play football bit.
Those who were there, did Amavi do enough to start next game? Or more importantly, did he not do enough wrongness to not start the next game? Well, we are discussing Villa fullbacks after all.
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It's amazing what a win can do,suddenly feel interested in football again! Spoke about the Villa at work today for the first time in ages,even braved a look at the league table,we'll be in the play offs before we know it! Bring on Fulham!
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Apart from the pen I don't think Aly did much wrong. I was disappointed how slow all our players were for their penalty rebound, 3 or 4 of the Reading players were there before any of ours. A minor thing as we won but I hope Bruce gives them a bit of a kick for that to make sure they aren't caught napping again.
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It's amazing what a win can do,suddenly feel interested in football again! Spoke about the Villa at work today for the first time in ages,even braved a look at the league table,we'll be in the play offs before we know it! Bring on Fulham!
I've been the same, can only imagine this must have been what VE Day felt like.
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I was able to give a few students the 'shush now'' finger on my lips today. It has been a long time... Cheers Villa!
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Apart from the pen I don't think Aly did much wrong. I was disappointed how slow all our players were for their penalty rebound, 3 or 4 of the Reading players were there before any of ours. A minor thing as we won but I hope Bruce gives them a bit of a kick for that to make sure they aren't caught napping again.
To be fair, I think one or two of the Reading players were in the box before the penalty was kicked
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I actually thought Bacuna was our man of the match. He was the most energetic player on the pitch playing a forward central midfield role - almost Milner like
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Apart from the pen I don't think Aly did much wrong. I was disappointed how slow all our players were for their penalty rebound, 3 or 4 of the Reading players were there before any of ours. A minor thing as we won but I hope Bruce gives them a bit of a kick for that to make sure they aren't caught napping again.
To be fair to him I thought both penalties were a bit soft.
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It is exactly what VE Day felt like Lee. An overwhelming sense of relief and everybody asking each other either in words or actions How the hell did we live through that? I now can't wait for good old PWS to post a statistic to the effect "are you aware that we have won more games in.......weeks than we did in the previous........years?"
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Let's hope they play Don't Look Back In Anger on Saturday after we've beat Fulham 4-0 with a McCormack hat trick.
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Midfield - Midfield three worked much better, Jedinak looks half decent in that formation and it seems he grew in confidence second half. I quite like Bacuna, and think he is better in midfield than at right back. All our better performances this season have been with Gardner in the team, he is better than most here give him credit for, and much better than Westwood.
Defence - Gollini seems to be findong his feet, and is looking a decent prospect now. Pleased to see Hutton do well as he always puts in a shift. Baker looks a better option than Elphick and should keep his place.
Attack - Bruce has seen what everyone else has - you can't play all our strikers at once. I think he will chop and change according to the opposition, and will always have quality on the bench to change things or add fresh legs. Kodjia, Ayew and McCormack all did well. Adomah is finding his feet now too.
Manager - I like him, he is lucky. Used his bench well, and out thought Stam.
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It was Oasis at full time and Neil Diamond at the start of the second half.
Ba-ba-baaaaah!
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Let's hope they play Don't Look Back In Anger on Saturday after we've beat Fulham 4-0 with a McCormack hat trick.
It's Getting Better (Man!!!)
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Site went down at the equaliser didn't it?
That's when I tried to pop in to read the anger!
Anyway, the winner won me £77 from a £1 5-team accumulator.
Well worth waiting for. Thank you.
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I think it went down just before we scored.
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First away win since man stepped on the moon and the site goes down. How low have we sunk. Seriously, very pleased with the win and very pleased for the fans that made the trip again.
As I said at the weekend, it is not always the best players that make the best team.
As commented by somebody else, the reason why we looked flat-footed when they scored was because their players moved into the penalty area before their player took the penalty, especially the one that actually scored.
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Wish I was there !
Wish I hadn't left at 9.30
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I was doing something on the night and I had to turn off my phone 20 mins into the game, the last twitter feed I saw was, I thought, an update showing Nathan Baker had scored an own goal. I sadly reported this to a few fellow villains.
Did anyone else see this or did I dream it, which would be strange as I was stone cold sober?
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Good that Gardner seemed to step up. I'd like him to get a run. I think he's clocked his hours in this league and looked good when he was at Forrest. I actually thought he played well when we played Forrest (letting himself down with one stray pass that lead to one of their girls). More performances like tonight are key. I think he offers more as an attacking threat than Westwood.
Bacuna has been okay this season on the whole.
From what I heard on radio and text (flicking between two) it seemed Kodija had a few chances, and Adomah set him up a few times. That's a good sign for me. A link forming and also just as simple as a wide man supplying a forward who gets on the end of it and tests the keeper.
Bruce found a balanced formation to do a job. We didn't try and cram too many of our attack minded players into the side at the expense of cohesion. I like that Kodija is willing to work and put in a shift out wide. He's probably going to be better on the left if he has to play on a wing.
3 in the middle of the park is the way to go. There's no pace between Jedinak, Westwood and Gardner. If you have 2 of those three, you need a third in there with energy, be it Bacuna or Tish. On recent form though, I'd play Tish, GG and Bacuna as a three against Fulham.
We've a selection headache in the next game. Ayew is probably our best player and should possibly come back in. However, at home I think it may suit us to have Rudy in the middle as a focal point, and then you have to look at dropping Adomah, which would be harsh after yesterday probably. That said, he's still not quite found his feet (better yesterday mind you). I'd bring Jordan back in and play him and Kodija either side of Rudy.
Also, Baker and Chester looks a better partnership than any other combos we have. Baker deserves a run. He's got his chance now but he just has to stay fit (how many times have we said that).
I also do wonder sometimes if you're on a hiding to nothing trying to play a "10" in the championship. Where does that leave McCormack and Grealish? Jack is good out wide going forward but leaves a lot to be desired with discipline going the other way. I would stick with the 4-3-3. Were Jedinak performing you could stick Tish alongside to provide legs, and then play Grealish as the third in the three with a bit of freedom. Not an option until Jedi finds his feet.
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Gardners through ball to Adomah was very good for the first goal, total scenes at the end!
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Good that Gardner seemed to step up. I'd like him to get a run. I think he's clocked his hours in this league and looked good when he was at Forrest. I actually thought he played well when we played Forrest (letting himself down with one stray pass that lead to one of their girls). More performances like tonight are key. I think he offers more as an attacking threat than Westwood.
Bacuna has been okay this season on the whole.
From what I heard on radio and text (flicking between two) it seemed Kodija had a few chances, and Adomah set him up a few times. That's a good sign for me. A link forming and also just as simple as a wide man supplying a forward who gets on the end of it and tests the keeper.
Bruce found a balanced formation to do a job. We didn't try and cram too many of our attack minded players into the side at the expense of cohesion. I like that Kodija is willing to work and put in a shift out wide. He's probably going to be better on the left if he has to play on a wing.
3 in the middle of the park is the way to go. There's no pace between Jedinak, Westwood and Gardner. If you have 2 of those three, you need a third in there with energy, be it Bacuna or Tish. On recent form though, I'd play Tish, GG and Bacuna as a three against Fulham.
We've a selection headache in the next game. Ayew is probably our best player and should possibly come back in. However, at home I think it may suit us to have Rudy in the middle as a focal point, and then you have to look at dropping Adomah, which would be harsh after yesterday probably. That said, he's still not quite found his feet (better yesterday mind you). I'd bring Jordan back in and play him and Kodija either side of Rudy.
Also, Baker and Chester looks a better partnership than any other combos we have. Baker deserves a run. He's got his chance now but he just has to stay fit (how many times have we said that).
I also do wonder sometimes if you're on a hiding to nothing trying to play a "10" in the championship. Where does that leave McCormack and Grealish? Jack is good out wide going forward but leaves a lot to be desired with discipline going the other way. I would stick with the 4-3-3. Were Jedinak performing you could stick Tish alongside to provide legs, and then play Grealish as the third in the three with a bit of freedom. Not an option until Jedi finds his feet.
Agree. Get a solid base of four at the back and three in midfield in place and then we can tinker with the attacking three options. I didn't go last night (brilliant turn out again) but from the commentary and what I've read the formation sounded better balanced.
As poor as we've been so far, it's funny to think that if we hadn't conceded late goals to Huddersfield, Brentford and Barnsley, we'd be in the play offs!
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Only recently back having stopped in London overnight. The one thing that surprised me was just how many Villa fans attempted to suppress any attempt by other Villla fans to sing songs supporting Steve Bruce. Caused a few heated arguments during the game.
Thought Bacuna was MOTM and that it was his best performance since Sunderland away in March of last year.
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So then we've proved we can beat teams beginning with the letter R. Can we go one better?
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S?
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I was doing something on the night and I had to turn off my phone 20 mins into the game, the last twitter feed I saw was, I thought, an update showing Nathan Baker had scored an own goal. I sadly reported this to a few fellow villains.
Did anyone else see this or did I dream it, which would be strange as I was stone cold sober?
Nope I saw it There was also one saying Reading had equalised ( before they actually did obvs)
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There must be a rule that means Reading are automatically relegated for having both a drum and goal music.
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I honestly did not know how to react when I saw we had won - that's how bad it had become - I just stared at the BBC Results screen and then went and told the lad. We both just stood there.
I feel sick with uncertainty about Saturday now...
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I honestly did not know how to react when I saw we had won - that's how bad it had become - I just stared at the BBC Results screen and then went and told the lad. We both just stood there.
I feel sick with uncertainty about Saturday now...
Fulham came from 2 down to draw with Norwich on Tuesday. Makes me feel like we'll go back to being a goal ahead and letting the lead slip late on.
Hope I'm wrong though and we've turned a corner.
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Only recently back having stopped in London overnight. The one thing that surprised me was just how many Villa fans attempted to suppress any attempt by other Villla fans to sing songs supporting Steve Bruce. Caused a few heated arguments during the game.
Thought Bacuna was MOTM and that it was his best performance since Sunderland away in March of last year.
Well some people just won't accept it and move on.
Thats fine. But wasted energy as far as I'm concerned.
Whether people like him or not, he's got us our first bloody away win since 1925.
Enjoy it for christ's sake.
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Only recently back having stopped in London overnight. The one thing that surprised me was just how many Villa fans attempted to suppress any attempt by other Villla fans to sing songs supporting Steve Bruce. Caused a few heated arguments during the game.
Thought Bacuna was MOTM and that it was his best performance since Sunderland away in March of last year.
Well some people just won't accept it and move on.
Thats fine. But wasted energy as far as I'm concerned.
Whether people like him or not, he's got us our first bloody away win since 1925.
Enjoy it for christ's sake.
Tater's gonna tate.
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The Mrs was watching some mind-numbing horseshit on the telly, so I sloped off to play FIFA for a bit. There were ten mins of the match left, so I opened Fotmob on my phone and left it showing our score, as I was utterly convinced we'd spunk one into our own net or otherwise conspire to let them win.
I'll never forget that moment when I looked at my phone to see we'd only gone and managed to score a last minute goal and win.
The Mrs walked into the room and looked at my pale, shocked face. "They haven't, have they?" she asked of me.
It was a moment which will linger long in my memory.
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What's the story (morning glory) with the playing of Don't look back in anger?
Was it Reading playing it for their fans because we always beat them, or for the Villa fans?
Heard some good reports of decent admission and beer prices, plus bar staff wearing B6 t-shirts in the away end etc. Fair play to them for that if true.
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Good that Gardner seemed to step up............ I think he offers more as an attacking threat than Westwood.
How dare you. You take that back. What game have you been watching?
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I want a B6 t-shirt.
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I want a B6 t-shirt.
Last year ( or was it the year before) away at Spurs the catering staff were all wearing the 81 retro Villa shirts. Didn't make the beer any better.
Talking of which, we got the train back from Reading to Paddington on Tuesday night and I bought 2 cans of standard cooking lager at the buffet carriage for £7.
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I've been to Reading away a couple of times in the past (4-2 FA Cup win) and 2-1 win in the league.
It was a really good away day both times - decent admission prices, good stadium, friendly fans, etc. Sounds like they have kicked on since then so it will be an away day we look forward to next season if we are both still in the same league.
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The Mrs was watching some mind-numbing horseshit on the telly, so I sloped off to play FIFA for a bit. There were ten mins of the match left, so I opened Fotmob on my phone and left it showing our score, as I was utterly convinced we'd spunk one into our own net or otherwise conspire to let them win.
I'll never forget that moment when I looked at my phone to see we'd only gone and managed to score a last minute goal and win.
The Mrs walked into the room and looked at my pale, shocked face. "They haven't, have they?" she asked of me.
It was a moment which will linger long in my memory.
I was at work still when "it" happened. The reason I figured out that "it" happened is that this place had permanently crashed and I therefore simply assumed the mods and operators had slipped into some alcohol induced coma, each of swimming in the vomit of their own delirium.
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Only the second game of the season that I missed and I was in the Cinema watching the Oasis film Supersonic. I was chuffed obviously but part of me was gutted that I missed out - a friend of mine used my reference for tickets so was there in spirit.
I cracked open another can in the cinema. Can't wait for Saturday and the Derby next week now.
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I somehow ended up following the game on Gillette Soccer Special and was sitting with my I pad, somewhat alarmed not to be able to get H&V.
For the last 20 minutes or so, I started chanting 'Come on Villa Come on Villa' under my breath really willing it to happen.
When we scored I leapt up and let out a silent cheer and did a little jubilant dance in the middle of the living room. Then I paced up and down with my arms outstretched miming 'Come on ref! How long????''
Only when the final whistle went did I allow myself to shouted YESSS!
I'don't forgotten what it felt like for me to let it matter! It was great for it to matter.
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I had the commentary on and Sky Sports which handily showed the goals as they went in from around the championship. Being without H&V was a testing time. I'm glad we all came through it.
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I follow Kevin Gage on facebook and he's said that Alan Cork was at the game working as a scout and he said that the Villa fans were unbelievable.
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I was staying near Maidstone in my hotel room watching the Leicester game on my Lap top all the while thinking, "shall I check how we're doing"? I don't know why at my age but just the very fact I'm trying to find how we're getting on sends my heart into rapid beat mode. To see we are 1 - 0 up came as a mighty surprise. Then there's the dilemma, how and when do I check again in the 2nd half? I didn't want to Jinx it so decided to wait till the Leicester game had finished and looked on the BBC fixtures to see how we were fairing knowing there would be 10 or so minutes left, 1-1..."wankers! you had to go and let one in didn't you"...10 more minutes under the cosh with our goal being continually bombarded was my vision. Eventually I summoned up the spirit to accept disappointment so clicked on BBC football results, "what, what is this, we've won?" Now I craved in detail info' so tried to access H&V to be greeted by lots of odd "you can't" type messages. Still went to bed very happy.
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I want a B6 t-shirt.
I want a beer
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Big thanks to Legion for letting us use his Facebook page as an emergency match thread. I think that his luck may be changing!
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Big thanks to Legion for letting us use his Facebook page as an emergency match thread. I think that his luck may be changing!
I think we should just use it every week now.
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Big thanks to Legion for letting us use his Facebook page as an emergency match thread. I think that his luck may be changing!
I think we should just use it every week now.
I wish someone would have told me before I deleted my profile.