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Title: On this day in 1961
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 05, 2016, 06:18:13 PM
We won the inaugural League Cup 3-2 on aggregate against Rotherham.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Crl44qSWcAA6ljp.jpg)
Title: Re: On this day in 1961
Post by: brian green on September 05, 2016, 06:51:50 PM
Look at the size of Nigel Sims and how small Jimmy Dugdale was for a centre half.  Thank you for posting that.
Title: Re: On this day in 1961
Post by: Tugby Villain on September 05, 2016, 08:52:24 PM
I did an article about this in the January issue.  A great success, and one that should not be overlooked.
Title: Re: On this day in 1961
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on September 05, 2016, 09:47:53 PM
I've got the programmes for both legs. The first leg at Rotherham changes hands for hundreds.
Title: Re: On this day in 1961
Post by: cdbearsfan on September 05, 2016, 10:20:23 PM
It's a shame there doesn't appear to be any footage of this anywhere.

I can't help feeling that they'd have persuaded a camera crew to turn up at late notice if a London side had been involved!
Title: Re: On this day in 1961
Post by: BC54 VFC on September 05, 2016, 10:49:06 PM
I've got the programmes for both legs. The first leg at Rotherham changes hands for hundreds.
Paid £222 for mine - the most I've ever paid for a programme.
Title: Re: On this day in 1961
Post by: MorrisNielson on September 05, 2016, 11:29:34 PM
Its a shame that the cup final got held over until the start of the 61/62 season, therefore Gerry Hitchens missed out on a medal as he left for Inter Milan in that summer.  Although, it gave young Ralph Brown his only 1st team game.
Title: Re: On this day in 1961
Post by: eamonn on September 05, 2016, 11:31:43 PM
What, in September? How queer.
Title: Re: On this day in 1961
Post by: brian green on September 06, 2016, 06:18:58 AM
Bloody hell.  I have got one of those Millmoor programmes somewhere.  If the mice have not eaten it.
Title: Re: On this day in 1961
Post by: Ron Manager on September 06, 2016, 06:45:20 AM
I don't think Ralph Brown is on that team photo.Wasnt it the only game he played for the first team?  Morris to the thread please!
Title: Re: On this day in 1961
Post by: Ron Manager on September 06, 2016, 07:01:14 AM
Look at the size of Nigel Sims and how small Jimmy Dugdale was for a centre half.  Thank you for posting that.

Jimmy Dugdale was as I recall about 5ft 10" which was not particularly small.A good comparison would be the England captain Billy Wright who was 5ft 8".Both of them were top class centre halves in their era.
Title: Re: On this day in 1961
Post by: brian green on September 06, 2016, 07:14:20 AM
They were indeed.  Model professionals.
Title: Re: On this day in 1961
Post by: Ron Manager on September 06, 2016, 07:25:15 AM
We won the inaugural League Cup 3-2 on aggregate against Rotherham.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Crl44qSWcAA6ljp.jpg)
I am having trouble identifying the player at the right end of the top row.Could he be the fabled Ralph Brown or is it Trevor Birch?

It's Ralph Brown.l found a picture of him when he was with Ilkeston Town!
Title: Re: On this day in 1961
Post by: Axl Rose on September 06, 2016, 08:12:54 AM
I've got the programmes for both legs. The first leg at Rotherham changes hands for hundreds.

Wow! I just had to have a look on ebay.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1961-LEAGUE-CUP-FINAL-ROTHERHAM-UNITED-v-ASTON-VILLA-RARE-/112043148245
Title: Re: On this day in 1961
Post by: cdbearsfan on September 06, 2016, 08:19:12 AM
£900 for our (losing) 1924 Cup Final programme!

http://m.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_nkw=Aston+villa+programme&isNewKw=1&sqp=aston%2Bvilla%2Bprogramme&_sop=16&_sacat=53621&_pgn=1

Title: Re: On this day in 1961
Post by: Ron Manager on September 06, 2016, 09:36:24 AM
£900 for our (losing) 1924 Cup Final programme!

http://m.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_nkw=Aston+villa+programme&isNewKw=1&sqp=aston%2Bvilla%2Bprogramme&_sop=16&_sacat=53621&_pgn=1
Some of those prices are unreal. I have  the programmes from both legs of the 1963 League Cup Final when we lost to....some other team.If I could get 150.00 for it I would sell today!
We were dreadful in both legs.
Title: Re: On this day in 1961
Post by: Axl Rose on September 06, 2016, 01:16:08 PM
£900 for our (losing) 1924 Cup Final programme!

http://m.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_nkw=Aston+villa+programme&isNewKw=1&sqp=aston%2Bvilla%2Bprogramme&_sop=16&_sacat=53621&_pgn=1
Some of those prices are unreal. I have  the programmes from both legs of the 1963 League Cup Final when we lost to....some other team.If I could get 150.00 for it I would sell today!
We were dreadful in both legs.

Get them on eBay, mate!
Title: Re: On this day in 1961
Post by: Ron Manager on September 06, 2016, 04:47:50 PM
Its a shame that the cup final got held over until the start of the 61/62 season, therefore Gerry Hitchens missed out on a medal as he left for Inter Milan in that summer.  Although, it gave young Ralph Brown his only 1st team game.

Ralph Brown is 75 now.  How quickly time flies!
Title: Re: On this day in 1961
Post by: brian green on September 06, 2016, 05:19:12 PM
And somehow the older you get the faster it goes.  I blame Einstein.
Title: Re: On this day in 1961
Post by: MorrisNielson on September 06, 2016, 10:22:14 PM
We won the inaugural League Cup 3-2 on aggregate against Rotherham.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Crl44qSWcAA6ljp.jpg)
I am having trouble identifying the player at the right end of the top row.Could he be the fabled Ralph Brown or is it Trevor Birch?

It's Ralph Brown.l found a picture of him when he was with Ilkeston Town!
Its definitely Ralph Brown (sold Notts County towards to end of the 61/62 season).
However I just noticed that Dick Taylor isn't in the photo. Was he not at the club then?
Which leads me to the of who is the trainer next to Mercer? Is it Jimmy Easson or someone else as I don't know who it is.
Title: Re: On this day in 1961
Post by: Ron Manager on September 07, 2016, 06:51:21 AM
We won the inaugural League Cup 3-2 on aggregate against Rotherham.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Crl44qSWcAA6ljp.jpg)
I am having trouble identifying the player at the right end of the top row.Could he be the fabled Ralph Brown or is it Trevor Birch?

It's Ralph Brown.l found a picture of him when he was with Ilkeston Town!
Its definitely Ralph Brown (sold Notts County towards to end of the 61/62 season).
However I just noticed that Dick Taylor isn't in the photo. Was he not at the club then?
Which leads me to the of who is the trainer next to Mercer? Is it Jimmy Easson or someone else as I don't know who it is.
You are right Morris.That is Jimmy Easson next to Joe Mercer.
Title: Re: On this day in 1961
Post by: dcdavecollett on September 25, 2016, 09:03:58 PM
Isn't it trainer Ray Shaw?
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