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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: UK Redsox on August 10, 2016, 06:50:24 PM
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Bunn, Richards, Baker, Okore, Amavi, Tshibola, Gardner, Green, Grealish, Ayew, McCormack
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Bunn, Richards, Baker, Okore, Amavi, Tshibola, Gardner, Green, Grealish, Ayew, McCormack.
Subs: Steer, Bacuna, Elphick, Gestede, Westwood, Hutton, Cissokho.
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Subs in full: Steer, Bacuna, Elphick, Gestede, Westwood, Hutton, Cissokho.
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Damn, the Canadian beat me to it by 6 seconds :D
Merge away please Mr Mod
EDIT - I can't tell the time, I won by 20 seconds
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Merge please mods. Mr Sox was faster on the trigger today
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Damn, the Canadian beat me to it by 6 seconds :D
Merge away please Mr Mod
Haha I thought you beat me to it!! Merge anyway. It doesn't matter.
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so polite on here :D
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This team should ease past Luton. I'm looking for a strong performance tonight. Chance for a few to stake a claim to start Saturday.
I'm also lumping on Ross to open his account for us tonight
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so polite on here :D
Its building up to be the H&V battle of the year; match thread starting between me and TV ;D
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TV should be suspended from posting match threads after his defeat at the weekend.
Over to you, Mr Sox.
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Interesting line-up. The "first choice" subs rested makes one wince though.
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so polite on here :D
Its building up to be the H&V battle of the year; match thread starting between me and TV ;D
My moneys on Vinnie Chase, you two don't stand a chance.
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Mix of rest and getting them to know each other better.
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Great attacking line-up.Not many options to change things from the bench if it starts going tits up, but good to see we're going for it from the off. And when was the last time Westwood wasn't first name on the sheet? Pleased with that
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Is Kozac injured or not in favour?
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No complaints about that side at all.
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Personally I think that is a better line up than the one that lost on Sunday
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Disappointed no RHB in the squad but a pretty decent side. Be interesting to see how Amavi, Green and Tshibola, in particular, get on.
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Is Kozac injured or not in favour?
Is Kozac the new Clarke ?
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Exciting side on the whole.
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What's the betting Richards is Captain.
i cant stand the bloke but after Sunday cliff Richards would be better than the useless Hutton.
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Richards fb then.
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What's the betting Richards is Captain.
i cant stand the bloke but after Sunday cliff Richards would be better than the useless Hutton.
He is
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That's my kind of team. Only a couple of duffers in there.
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Much better lineup than the game last weekend...it would be our strongest starting XI if we could swap out Gallini for Bunn, Elphick for Baker, and add a new midfielder into the mix (on the basis that our best options of Gardner and Westwood are shit).
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Much better lineup than the game last weekend...it would be our strongest starting XI if we could swap out Gallini for Bunn, Elphick for Baker, and add a new midfielder into the mix (on the basis that our best options of Gardner and Westwood are shit).
Totally agree. I'm glad to see Amavi in the game, and that if Richards is going to be playing its not centrally.
Also, glad to see Gardner get a second shot to prove his worth. I'm sure he knows his match vs Wednesday was awful. He has to redeem himself.
Ayew and McCormack up front, as it should be.
SCORE SOME GOALS.
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Plenty of attacking potential, just hope they gel as a team.
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Wow an exciting line up which am delighted to see personally.
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TV should be suspended from posting match threads after his defeat at the weekend.
Over to you, Mr Sox.
WE WUZ ROBBED I TELL YA
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What's the betting Richards is Captain.
i cant stand the bloke but after Sunday cliff Richards would be better than the useless Hutton.
Agreed. He's a cock but he's an upgrade on Hutton in how RDM wants to play. If he keeps his bullshit to a minimum then he'll be an asset this season.
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Refreshingly positive team selection.
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Who's captain tonight?
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Eddie Howe is the ref
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Personally I think that is a better line up than the one that lost on Sunday
exactly my initial thought
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Might seem a daft question but, what is the EFL Cup? Is it the old League Cup/Carling/Rumbelows/Coca Cola etc?
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Might seem a daft question but, what is the EFL Cup? Is it the old League Cup/Carling/Rumbelows/Coca Cola etc?
Just another re-branding of the League Cup.
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Might seem a daft question but, what is the EFL Cup? Is it the old League Cup/Carling/Rumbelows/Coca Cola etc?
yes,like the prem this year no sponsor I think
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Surely it's not TISH-bola?
Isn't it SHI-bola, with a suppressed T?
That's going to annoy me this season.
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Might seem a daft question but, what is the EFL Cup? Is it the old League Cup/Carling/Rumbelows/Coca Cola etc?
Not forgetting Milk
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Who's captain tonight?
Super Micah Richards. Every aspiring young Villa fan's hero.
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Surely it's not TISH-bola?
Isn't it SHI-bola, with a suppressed T?
That's going to annoy me this season.
correct. He said as much when he joined. For context it's going to become the new Ciaran Clarke.
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Who's captain tonight?
Richards is Captain. It's a positive selection but Gardner needs replacing for me. Chance for Okore and Green to show what they have though.
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Who's captain tonight?
Super Micah Richards. Every aspiring young Villa fan's hero.
A question for Dr X is if character and willingness to fight for the cause is key criteria to play for the club how the fuck is this wanker captain tonight?
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Nearly superb OG
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I've just had to explain Luton's whereabouts to an American friend of mine who is watching on TV in the Colonies
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Woodwork twice now
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Hit the post now. That's two bits of woodwork - just need to hit the stringy bit in the middle
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Richards keeping up with play there... Twat.
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That was poor defending.
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fucking woodwork again
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yes
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Yes!
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YEaaah, GOAL!
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Yessss
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1-0 - really streaky goal, but they all count
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Ayew scores but Baker's down
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GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAL
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That defending .... are Villa in orange today?
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Help. What do I do now?
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Nice poacher's finish by Ayew
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fucking woodwork again
Please stop moaning about jack woodwork.
He's gone.
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Was going to say, even before the goal, how lovely to see us approach a game with pace, power and intent.
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Get in.
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Professor Green is the business
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I hate that song.
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Really nice from Ayew. A good scrappy goal is something to enjoy.
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I like Ayew a little bit
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shit I think enhanced odds on ayew being first goal scorer and villa winning on billy hill was 6/1
don't need to say I didn't take it
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Before the game I think I heard the Sky presenter say something along the lines of we haven't won a game in 6 months. If that's true then fine but is he really counting June and July?
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Knee slide fail from Ayew there.
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shit I think enhanced odds on ayew being first goal scorer and villa winning on billy hill was 6/1
don't need to say I didn't take it
Doesn't sound very enhanced.
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Bit naughty by McCormack
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good start to the season for Garry Monk and Leeds. Battered at the weekend, down 1-0 to Fleetwood tonight. Their owner is a nut so I expect him to fire the manager by the weekend
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Poor challenge from Ross there.
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shit I think enhanced odds on ayew being first goal scorer and villa winning on billy hill was 6/1
don't need to say I didn't take it
Doesn't sound very enhanced.
billy hill are stingy bastards
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Before the game I think I heard the Sky presenter say something along the lines of we haven't won a game in 6 months. If that's true then fine but is he really counting June and July?
Think he meant competetive fixture - Norwich 6th February. A truly frightening stat
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Richards playing well
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I like Ayew, good player and has a quirky face which always looks like he's about to burst into tears.
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I like Ayew because he genuinely appears to give a shit
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Can we have the final whistle now please?
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Before the game I think I heard the Sky presenter say something along the lines of we haven't won a game in 6 months. If that's true then fine but is he really counting June and July?
Think he meant competetive fixture - Norwich 6th February. A truly frightening stat
He added on a month the swine
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The goal might have been scrappy but not many players who could gave turned that into a goal!
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Before the game I think I heard the Sky presenter say something along the lines of we haven't won a game in 6 months. If that's true then fine but is he really counting June and July?
People always do when they want to make things sound worse.
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shit I think enhanced odds on ayew being first goal scorer and villa winning on billy hill was 6/1
don't need to say I didn't take it
Doesn't sound very enhanced.
billy hill are stingy bastards
I may not have told you yet that I bet on Sam Allardyce for England at 16-1 after the Iceland match. But, now I've started I will not stop gloating. And I have a lot more cash than you, to oppose gagging orders.
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Good to see the pressing when not in possession.
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Have we had a rousing rendition of 'my garden shed' yet?
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shit I think enhanced odds on ayew being first goal scorer and villa winning on billy hill was 6/1
don't need to say I didn't take it
Doesn't sound very enhanced.
billy hill are stingy bastards
I may not have told you yet that I bet on Sam Allardyce for England at 16-1 after the Iceland match. But, now I've started I will not stop gloating. And I have a lot more cash than you, to oppose gagging orders.
Lol.
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On reflection, my whole life has foretold that Aston Villa would reach a vital turning point playing Luton Town.
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shit I think enhanced odds on ayew being first goal scorer and villa winning on billy hill was 6/1
don't need to say I didn't take it
Doesn't sound very enhanced.
billy hill are stingy bastards
I may not have told you yet that I bet on Sam Allardyce for England at 16-1 after the Iceland match. But, now I've started I will not stop gloating. And I have a lot more cash than you, to oppose gagging orders.
ooh you loads of money barsted
GIVE ME SOME
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Should have been a corner
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Are we on telly?
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Are we on telly?
WELL I'm not id break the fucker
Sky
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Bunn really isn't that good!
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Are we on telly?
WELL I'm not id break the fucker
Sky
I'd have gone on the sick if I'd known.
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Ironically we've put a couple of crosses in which would have been superb for Justhead
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Well on top here, but Richards is showing no discipline.
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shit I think enhanced odds on ayew being first goal scorer and villa winning on billy hill was 6/1
don't need to say I didn't take it
Doesn't sound very enhanced.
billy hill are stingy bastards
I may not have told you yet that I bet on Sam Allardyce for England at 16-1 after the Iceland match. But, now I've started I will not stop gloating. And I have a lot more cash than you, to oppose gagging orders.
ooh you loads of money barsted
GIVE ME SOME
Earn it, bitch. As I expect rich people probably say.
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Surely it's not TISH-bola?
Isn't it SHI-bola, with a suppressed T?
That's going to annoy me this season.
I would pronounce it TSHI-bola myself. I guess it's not a natural sound in the English language so some commentators will have problems with it. Like Petra Kvitova - they always say Kavitova.
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Its like men v boys but I'm still worried.
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We're playing well, Luton look shit.
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Its like men v boys but I'm still worried.
The mental fragility of all Villa fans at the moment.
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if you've got William hill account you can watch the game on their site
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We'd be ok if we got relegated to League 2
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Richards does like to wander forwards, he's our furthest player up in a lot of our attacks
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Could really do with sticking another past this lot before half time.
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Ironically we've put a couple of crosses in which would have been superb for Justhead
Good point well made. Who knew them there UEFA coaching courses unlearn what pub teams know. Big fella? Cross it!
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there's no singing or chants
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74% possession apparently. I have only ever seen that number for an opposing team.
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Blimey, we're on the tellybox again. Only just realised so I missed the goal. Arse biscuits.
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I'll watch this when I get home. Love Bein Sports.
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Surely it's not TISH-bola?
Isn't it SHI-bola, with a suppressed T?
That's going to annoy me this season.
I would pronounce it TSHI-bola myself. I guess it's not a natural sound in the English language so some commentators will have problems with it. Like Petra Kvitova - they always say Kavitova.
People who say Tishbola are people who can't read.
Oh dear.
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Absolute Blues.
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Bugger. Back to comedy defending
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Predictable
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Oh fuck off.
*turns tellybox off again*
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Fucking hell.
Started with crap touch from Gardner from Mccormacks brilliant knockdown.
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FFS
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LOL Fuck me
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Oh dear, fucking rubbish defending.
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Amavi has much to learn
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Gardner and Grealish miss their men. Shit.
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Ridiculous goal. Shit give away and then the usual shit defending.
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Baker ball watching
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Nathan Baker running out of the defensive line there like a man hailing a taxi
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Rusty Amavi - looks a bit careful tackling
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The whole defensive line was wrong.
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Fucking hell.
Started with crap touch from Gardner from Mccormacks brilliant knockdown.
Quite. Gardner just doesn't seem to have it unfortunately.
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Quality from Gardner and Amavi. Amavi needs to learn how to defend.
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Entire back 4 messed up that easily defendable build-up.
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Not amavis fault he was left covering two players
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Keep bloody calm now
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Their passing and movement has actually been better than ours on a fair few occasions this half. Goal not a surprise.
And why does the ball control of Villa players always turn to shit in tinpot grounds? It's like we get drawn down their level.
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I know he hit the woodwork but im worried about the lack of impact Jack is having on this game
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Baker is not very good is he.
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Amavi switched off and let his man in behind him
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No need to panic. We've been miles better than these. Unfortunately, this is Villa. Cue panic.
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Just tired of them being bad at things. Also noticing that we're second to every ball.
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So far so good. Important to get that early goal to settle the nerves. It would be good to get a second while we're so much on top. Think we should win anyway but don't want to take a chance of letting them back in it. Boy do we need to hang onto Ayew.
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Fucking clown Richards
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Ugh. Make them go away.
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What Luton v Villa matches have you been to? I saw most of our European Cup team lose 2-1 there in April 1983. We didn't need the points but the plucky Hatters were fighting relegation, so that they could go on to invent plastic pitches & bans for away fans...
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So far so good. Important to get that early goal to settle the nerves. It would be good to get a second while we're so much on top. Think we should win anyway but don't want to take a chance of letting them back in it. Boy do we need to hang onto Ayew.
It's 1-1.
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OH POO! Here we go again for another long night ;)
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Fucking clown Richards
Times two
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Case in point Richards just now.
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Richards is an idiot.
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Classic richards
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Micah has gone all 2015/16 all of a sudden
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I'd take a point right now.
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Gone to bloody pieces
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Gardner is looking really poor.
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Getting pissed on now.
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Richards is further off the play than i am, in birmingham.
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Strewth, we need another goal
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Ayew's going all West Ham again
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Our mental fragility is a massive problem.
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I am struggling to see what Gardner offers, or will ever offer.
He seems to me to be another in a long,long line of anonymous Villa midfielders.
Has no impact on the game other than jogging around a bit.
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Surely it's not TISH-bola?
Isn't it SHI-bola, with a suppressed T?
That's going to annoy me this season.
I would pronounce it TSHI-bola myself. I guess it's not a natural sound in the English language so some commentators will have problems with it.
You and me both. But I'd at least hope a commentator to go with Shi-bola, rather than "there's an unusual jumble of letters there, I'll just let my mouth make the sound my brain thinks that those letters should be".
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Our mental fragility is a massive problem.
Agree. A won would be great for confidence...but go down to these then the old demons come back.
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I am struggling to see what Gardner offers, or will ever offer.
He seems to me to be another in a long,long line of anonymous Villa midfielders.
Has no impact on the game other than jogging around a bit.
Exactly what I was just thinking. He's a Westwood clone, isn't he? Jogs around in the middle, plays a few easy passes, doesn't track his man, doesn't win the ball, and doesn't offer anything going forwards.
It's been ages since we had the sort of midfielder who wants the ball all the time and dictates the play.
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Our mental fragility is a massive problem.
Agree. A won would be great for confidence...but go down to these then the old demons come back.
Come back ?
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They're terrified again. The whole team has stopped playing.
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Not that we should panic just yet but one problem is that we don't have much on the bench that would change things. Could maybe bring Elphick on to try and tighter up. Gustede would be the obvious attacking switch.
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Ayew is a walking red card right now.
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Our mental fragility is a massive problem.
Our sloppiness mainly in midfield is our main problem. Gardner for the beginning of their goal.
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And people actually think we can get promoted? Club is a shambles with the mental strength of a biscuit.
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We always seem to look so half-arsed. Haven't seen a sense of urgency or tempo in a Villa team for what seems like years
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Quality from Gardner and Amavi. Amavi needs to learn how to defend.
he doesnt
he needs to be a left sided midfielder
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And he's back.
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Ayew just never seems that bothered, if he could at least pretend he wants to play it would be a step in the right direction.
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We've gone from misplaced arrogance to fear in a split second. Nothing is a given. We must fight for every win.
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Someone remind these twats that they're playing fucking Luton and not Juventus.
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Flat track bullies.
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What a load of fkn shit
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Not watching, but is it the players from last season who are panicking now it's level?
I'd like/hope think that the new players would think nothing of it and carry on positively.
We need to get rid of so many players used to losing before they bring down the new players with them.
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One mistake to me seems to have been to have change the centre backs from the weekend. That is one area which could do with the least amount of tempering.
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Good 25 and then horrible 20 mins
This is only going one way at the moment
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And people actually think we can get promoted? Club is a shambles with the mental strength of a biscuit.
Amazing how you appear after we concede and not a peep when we were winning.
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Ayew just never seems that bothered, if he could at least pretend he wants to play it would be a step in the right direction.
Ayew has hardly stopped running all game and didn't stop against Wednesday. He seems to have lost his head a bit in the last few minutes but he's as for from a not "that bothered" player as you're likely to see.
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I am struggling to see what Gardner offers, or will ever offer.
He seems to me to be another in a long,long line of anonymous Villa midfielders.
Has no impact on the game other than jogging around a bit.
Grealish will be joining him soon
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Started well, outclassed Luton, looked confident. Only one winner.
Scored, got casual, sloppy, vulnerable.
Conceded equaliser, shat our pants, lost all composure. Only one winner.
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And people actually think we can get promoted?
Not in a League Cup match, no.
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We need to find a way of dealing mentally with set backs in games. They will happen, but you need to be able to react positively to them. We completely crumble and there's no leadership on the pitch.
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We looked pretty good up until Gardner lost possession. From that moment on we've looked like we did last season.
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On the plus side, Amavi seems none the worse for wear after that horrible injury.
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Ayew's a sulky so and so. Sending off waiting to happen. Again.
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Get Gardner and Richards off in the second half and we might stand a chance.
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Hylton and Marriott doing well against our sub-Premier defence.
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Micah is still a disgrace. Waking to track his man. No words
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Time for RDM to earn his corn. Instilling confidence is the main thing
Not sure if green is looking good or not ready. Maybe a bit of both
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And people actually think we can get promoted? Club is a shambles with the mental strength of a biscuit.
Amazing how you appear after we concede and not a peep when we were winning.
he was out petting his lemming when we scored
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Even with new players the mental strength is so brittle. It really doesn't matter who we play, if we let a goal in you can see the confidence rush out of them. I actually thought we were playing well until they scored with their first shot of the game. Gardner was pretty good for first 20 but he struggles when we are under pressure and then becomes mistake prone. Hopefully RDM can inject a bit of confidence back.
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Since Barry I dont recall us having a midfield general. Someone who is calm under pressure, doesnt panic, uses the ball well and can make things happen. Thats what we are missing and isnt at the club presently
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The Gardner I've seen has always struggled in tight situations and I'm not seeing much difference this season
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Our mental fragility is a massive problem.
Agree. A won would be great for confidence...but go down to these then the old demons come back.
We can't even phrase the bloody notion properly anymore it's become so alien to us (sorry DB - I know it's a typo).
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Like tshibola so far. The more Richards has pushed on the more he's taken green out of the game, think he'd looked our brightest player early on.
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I want a 90 minute result either way, I'm tired.
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Started well, outclassed Luton, looked confident. Only one winner.
Scored, got casual, sloppy, vulnerable.
Conceded equaliser, shat our pants, lost all composure. Only one winner.
We lack leaders particularly without Tommy
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Right come out in the second half and get your heads screwed on Villa. The midfield have to do more and drive the game.
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I wonder if we'll ever win a competitive game again.
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I actually enjoyed most of that half and thought we looked okay. However, despite that we are drawing with Luton, that's a worry.
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And people actually think we can get promoted?
Albion can't get promoted you silly sausage.
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Micah Richards throw in was my favourite bit. He looks Bramble-esque.
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I wonder if we'll ever win a competitive game again.
When was the last one?
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I see now that Baker ran out - fuck stupid
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we need some therapy to stop this loosing trait.
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Norwich at home six months ago
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Ayew just never seems that bothered, if he could at least pretend he wants to play it would be a step in the right direction.
Appalling hold up play from him throughout anyway, taking three touches and losing it when a give and go would be sufficient
McCormack, Green and Grealish have been anonymous, Green seems a little timid in his play so far
Middle two, Gardner and Tis unable to set any kind of tempo or structure to our play, Gardner's legs appear stuck in treacle
Amavi not exactly relishing the physical exchanges, players getting behind him regularly
Richards playing like the absolute clown he is
Okore seems as last ditch as ever and booting everything long in a fit of panic
Baker just brainless in the extreme, leaving a massive gap behind him for their goal
Great test of character now for these players and the new management team
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This is all rather depressing. Matches the grey and drab weather over here at the moment.
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Norwich I guess, ridiculously.
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One mistake to me seems to have been to have change the centre backs from the weekend.
Luton have had one shot, and the only centre-back who could arguably be at fault was the one that played at the weekend.
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I wonder if we'll ever win a competitive game again.
When was the last one?
My grandad used to tell me story's about villa winning a game when he was a lad but I'm beginning to think he was making it up.
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Hylton and Marriott doing well against our sub-Premier defence.
We're always crap when we're travel-inn.
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Scientists just discovered a cave painting of a stick thin agbonlahor scoring a winning goal.
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I see now that Baker ran out - fuck stupid
Yes he did which would have put Luton in an offside position only for Micah to be snoozing playing them on and Amavi loosing his man.
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One mistake to me seems to have been to have change the centre backs from the weekend.
Luton have had one shot, and the only centre-back who could arguably be at fault was the one that played at the weekend.
Yep let's not go overboard, we were completely dominant before they scored. Baker is shite though.
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possession states according to billy h luton 37% The Mighty ASTON VILLA 63%
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I dont get the love for Okore. Always a mistake and no coincidence that Baker looks shaky with him.
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FFS nobody has won for the last 3 months.
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Rudy on, Ross off.
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Ive just lost a fairly big bet, but hey ho, as long as we win it will ease the pain. A little bit :(
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What I'd like to know is whether we have a sports psychologist working with the players. After the calamity of last season I would say that would be essential. We crumbled so badly after they scored and it was like watching any number of games last season.
I thought Green and Ayew linked up well in the early part of that half and we got some decent crosses in which is ironic with Gestede not playing. Gardner has been woeful and although Richards started well, he reverted to type towards the end of the half. I think we're missing a commanding presence at the back which shows how much we need Elphick.
I still think we've got too much for them though although we'll try our best not to win with our backs to the wall for thd last 15 minutes.
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The big mans on
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Hutton on Baker off.
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Looks like they heard me saying Justhead could get on the end of some of our crosses
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Bloody hell should have been 2-1 down
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Should be losing.
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Come out on the front foot then
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Is it Gardner who is the absolute fanny in the midfield for their goal who is first beaten physically to lose the ball and then outpaced as the player strolls around the outside of him.
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I am struggling to see what Gardner offers, or will ever offer.
He seems to me to be another in a long,long line of anonymous Villa midfielders.
Has no impact on the game other than jogging around a bit.
I really do wonder how all his injuries have retarded his development, he was VERY highly rated at one time but I must admit I have never really seen what all the fuss was about.
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Glass Baker off again. Richards to centre half. Oh boy. We desperately need players in.
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I dislike Gardner. He is just garbage.
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Fair play to this lot they can see were shitting it
we need a fucking JIMMY CASE standing on the centre circle, directing these brainless chickens
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Christ almighty. So often at the start of the second half we're asleep. Wake the fuck up Villa.
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Richards at CB, what could go wrong?
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Hutton burned again.
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Should have been winning.
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This is basically last seasons dog shit team with a couple of kids thrown in, no surprise we are shit again.
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James Okore. I'm guessing we've signed a new defender. Otherwise Ian Dowie is making a continual mistake.
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Our midfield is offering no defence at all, it's not good enough.
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Watching Gardner is like seeing a traffic cone plonked in the middle of Stratford Road.
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The central midfield is like Swiss cheese as usual
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Oh dear oh dear oh dear
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Losing 2-1
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Oh dear
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defending comedians
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Comedy gold.
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We're absolute shambles at the back.
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Aston Villa are STILL a fucking shambles.
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Hilariously shite
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Keystone Kops!!
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We are going nowhere
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Fuck's sake.
Delete and reinstall Villa.
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Despite Bunn's best efforts. Fucking shocking.
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All over the place. Well, at least we can concentrate on the league now.
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Look at the fucking shape of them!!!!
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Still shit then.
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It's like the last five years, only with a few different but equally shit players.
Why oh why oh why is the result the same?
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All of the changes yet absolutely nothing has changed.
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Watching Gardner is like seeing a traffic cone plonked in the middle of Stratford Road.
Gardner is another result of the myth of our academy.
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Nothing. Has. Changed.
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I genuinely don't think you can rehabilitate some of these players, they just need to go
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And i laughed at blues
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What
not so much this game, but bloody hell, weve got work to do
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We are fucked. What a mess.
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Christ almighty, absolutely amateur again.
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We've got a decent manager and good coaches.
If they can't sort out this club' I think we're fucked.
League two FFS.
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Blimey I didn't think we could get worse.
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Fuck off clowns.
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Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
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At least it doesn't hurt anymore.
We are going to have this every week, teams will be up for beating Villa
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Hopefully this game convinces RDM that Richards has no future at this club, going for the "brave" header on that breakaway when he could have put his foot through the ball and put it into row Z
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In the olden days, at least we used to gift 3 consecutive goals in 2 games to Premier League teams.
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Far too many of the shit players responsible for us being shit are still here.
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It's like that bit of sick you thought you'd swallowed down, but you haven't.
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Nice loafing back into defence from Micah as the ball went into the net. Not even a half-arsed effort
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It's just so fucking diabolical. Our shape is non-existent.
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If we can another 5 subs we may have a chance.
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RDM thought moving Richards to CB and bringing on Hutton would sure up the defence. :o
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?
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People sound really surprised. Not sure we should be. We've been shit for a very long time. Bad enough to lose to Championship teams and one off cup matches against lower teams.
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Defensively we are a total mess, there is no protection at all in front of them, they're shit anyway but it doesn't help having a midfield stroll around getting bypassed by the opposition as they stream forward.
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Sigh.
That's all.
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Their second goal was like watching a rerun of an old sitcom. You knew what was coming but you still had to laugh.
We have gone to absolute shit now.
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Just exactly what is Di Matteo and his backroom seeing in Gardner? What is convincing them that Baker is a centre half? Sunday afternoon football defending at its finest.
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The players have no clue where they are meant to be standing, and they're getting bullied physically.
Fucking bollocks!
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The defensive shape is just comical and the midfield is doing nothing.
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Too many shit players still here, too few new players, new owner done fuck all of substance despite big talk. Fuck them all.
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what a joke 56 minutes played and one of theres is trying to hold the ball in the corner, its not so much that as two of our cones are making it look legitimate
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So Poor!
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Luton have got James Robertson Justice playing for them, ffs. We can beat these bastards.
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Richards has been disgraceful this half.
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Keystone cops at the back, BUT, all of our problems, every single one of them, stem from the fact that we haven't got or had a quality central midfielder for years.
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No leaders on the pitch
Just big time wanebees
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RDM thought moving Richards to CB and bringing on Hutton would sure up the defence. :o
He mustn't have gotten round to watching the videos of last seasons games where the complete oaf would contribute fuck all and be constantly ambling up the pitch completely out of position.
Richards is shit, Hutton is shit, Westwood is shit, Bacuna is shit, Cissokho is shit, Baker is shit, Gestede is shit, they're not magically going to have woken up during summer and become decent. We keep picking these fuckers and we will keep losing football matches.
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And i laughed at blues
Precisely why I didn't I knew what was likely to be around the corner
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Just exactly what is Di Matteo and his backroom seeing in Gardner? What is convincing them that Baker is a centre half? Sunday afternoon football defending at its finest.
A lack of real alternatives. For now
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they look hungry with something to play for, our lot don't want to be on the pitch
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And again Tsihbola and Gardner stood 5 yards apart and the ball just passed through them.
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Defensively we are a total mess, there is no protection at all in front of them, they're shit anyway but it doesn't help having a midfield stroll around getting bypassed by the opposition as they stream forward.
yeah Gardner is totally out of his depth unfortunately
if we want to win the game then we need Elphick of for leadership, move Richards into midfield or out of the way anyway
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Don't like to join in the scapegoating but Gardner is just taking up space where a midfielder could be playing at the moment. Gestede is on apparently but I've not seen him.
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Doncaster and Bradford all over again
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Might have to nip 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 in the bud for the time being. More like 4-5-1 and just get bodies in midfield to stop teams waltzing through us all the time.
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Better
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We've had a shot!
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Bloody bar AGAIN
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And hit the wooodwork
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Bar again. Luton are doing their best to help us, but we're just too shit.
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Hutton is just an awful footballer.
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These players need to pull their fucking finger out, getting bossed by a League Two side is not acceptable.
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Good to see we are replaying the 2015/16 season although we did get further in this cup albeit by default.
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2 of our best efforts have been off their players!
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You can't build a team on a rubbish defense.
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It is seriously making me fill ill.
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Okore is not good enough I'm afraid
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Tis hasnt a clue tactically but does look to have a bit about him going forward
Amavi is improving here on the left
Experienced holding midfielder the biggest priority
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The midfield just needs to protect the defence so much better.
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Is it too early to call for Di Matteo's head?
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Just not covering players or runs at all. Standing watching again
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Okore is not good enough I'm afraid
This. Always a mistake in him.
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when does the rebuild start
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Look at the fucking midfield, where's the protection, where's the 2-3 trying to get behind the ball and win it back before it gets to the back four!!? Fucking half arsed soft centre
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They have 2 or 3 touches around our box and get an effort off.
We dilly dally with out 9-10 touches and produce fuck all.
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We're going out against Luton aren't we?
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Bloody hell they are taking the piss now!
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They look more like scoring than we do.
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Huge gap again, 15 yards outside the box. That's the midfield failing again.
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Well, at least we're consistent in our complete and utter shiteness - sigh.....
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Seriously is this hell ever going to end?
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Luton making us look like mugs
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Being ripped a new one by a League 2 side.
We are fucking pathetic. Just fuck off.
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Jesus
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HA HA HA HA, just fucking laugh!
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We're going out against Luton aren't we?
Yep
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Pahahahahahaha
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I'm calling it.
We are playing like a bunch of fucking wankers.
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FFS they're a fucking joke
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Well the Gardner experiment should come to an end after this game.
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Ha ha ha ha ha ha.
You either laugh or fucking kill yourself.
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Oh for fuck's sake. That's beyond comedy. It's criminal
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Wankers. From Richards to Okore what the fuck was that?
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3-1 hahah it's so shit I genuinely laughed
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Does that sum is up or what
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RDM and Doctor X, welcome to Villa
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Well wasn't that the funniest thing you ever did see.
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The defence is fucking terrible, the genuinely have no idea.
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All I can manage is to laugh. I'm actually sat laughing. I thought these days were meant to be over.
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What a pathetic bunch of wankers. Fuck the lot of 'em.
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Go fuck yourselves, you disgusting fucking wretches.
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That's one hell of a finish from Okore
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This is one of the most abject attempts at defending I've ever seen.
Okore and Richards are abysmal. Charging out of position. The own goal caps it off.
There is no protection from the midfield. Gardner cannot play as a two.
This is fucking atrocious.
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Holloway called it.
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Shambles
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They look a good side so far to be honest.
*Oh another goal to them
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None of those wankers who shafted this club last season should have been anywhere near the first team squad this season.
They are. We continue to be an utter laughing stock.
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Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse.
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Will it ever stop
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oh dear...
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RDM is now watching the same shit we have for the past five years.
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Did that useless arsehole Okore refuse to sit on the bench for us last season? Then why the fuck is he playing for Aston Villa?
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hey, we need a lot of money spent clearing this shit out
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Christ almighty. Honestly this is terrible. You gutless useless ******.
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Okore is not good enough I'm afraid
good call, too good to tog out for us last season mind
Once again Micah Richards to the fore for that one, this is his last game in a Villa shirt
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Put another fucking midfielder on. These ****** cannot defend.
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I thought we'd hit bottom last season, obviously not. Absolutely fucking pathetic.
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At least it'll cheer peter w up.
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Embarrassing
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Should have been four
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Oh, that is really awful. I mean, that is just the absolute worst.
What a total embarrassment. Again.
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Scum bags. Our fuck wit owner is good value on Twitter though hey.
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They look so fragile, scared to do anything.
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Hutton and Richards should just never play again.
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All you can do is laugh.
Concentrating on the league then
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A new low...first they get out fought & worse they get completely outplayed. A few of them found their level tonight...most didn't they perhaps need to go another 2 leagues lower!
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The board must go!!
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You're losing 3-1 to a division 4 side and your keeper is your MOTM.
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We don't have a fucking centre mid, no one, we don't have a centre mid on the books who can play fucking centre mid because what they're doing is not playing centre mid.
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Nearly 4.
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When the ball hits the net and there's lots of regret, it's Okore##
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The co-commentator just said Aston Villa have some very good players. No they don't.
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Not a single redeeming feature to any of the ******.
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Since Baker was taken off we now have a big fucking gaping hole in the middle of our defence.
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Fucking bunch of tossers .....fight like lions ??🙄
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Back to back relegations anyone?
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We're going out against Luton aren't we?
We've done it before - didn't "ex Birmingham City legend" Bob Hatton score both goals in a 0-2 for them at VP about thirty years back..
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Thank goodness I'm not watching.
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We're getting spannered here.
We're still a dysfunctional, broken team. Like a rag-tag militia that's been routed by a regular army.
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Hands up, come on - how many of you said that you were excited about this line-up tonight?
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Maybe this will really show RDM how serious the situation is.
We've known it for ages, hopefully it's taken til tonight for him.
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Is it too early to call for Di Matteo's head?
dont be saft
wait til after bayern rotherham
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Well over on the other side the divers have won a gold medal.
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Richards and Okore are absolutely pathetic.
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Lerner out!
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Well the chairman is now seeing the urgent need to get some decent players in.
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Gardner, Richards and Okore should be sold tomorrow. All three have been so pathetic it's painful
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So has everyone woken up now to the fact we haven't remodelled the squad anywhere near enough yet and the embaressments from last season are likely to do really poor this season.
Promotion with these useless twats my arse.
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I mean a lot of these players shouldn't be professionals.
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When the ball hits the net and there's lots of regret, it's Okore##
Nice one.
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Gardner, Richards and Okore should never pull on a Villa shirt again. They're diabolical.
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How can Gardner be allowed to stay on the pitch?
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ah man, i'm laughing.......what else is there to do.
I'll keep it brief:
Micah Richards, what an absolute ****** you are.
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In all of the shit we have witnessed over the last few years, this ranks right up there with the shittiest.
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Gardner is so shit
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Back to back relegations anyone?
Why not? We're bad enough. A lot of fans I spoke to hoped to just stay up this season.
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I can't believe anyone thinks our transfer business thus far is anything like sufficient.
Too many of these ****** have shown themselves to be nothing like good enough over a long period of time.
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Gary Gardner is bloody useless
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Gardner isn't good enough by a long long way.
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We're going out against Luton aren't we?
We've done it before - didn't "ex Birmingham City legend" Bob Hatton score both goals in a 0-2 for them at VP about thirty years back..
We have not beaten Luton at K road since 1964 apparently.
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Gardner is truly awful. He's regressed so much since he first came through. I never thought I'd say it but take him off and get Westwood on
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The contrast with Elphick out is huge. It's staggering how bad Gardner, Okore and Richards are. Absolutely staggering.
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Zero fucking fight.
We'll keep the white flag flying high
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Clearly the stench of failure is still at the club. Don't know what the answer is, but thank fuck I don't spend any dosh watching these fuckers.
Credit to everyone down Luton tonight.
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The fact that di Matteo saw for to move a) play Richards, b) make him captain and c) then move him into centre defence is enough to make me really, really worry about whether he is the right man for the job.
This should absolutely be his last ever appearance for the club.
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At least our chairman is watching this utter shite.
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We look like we wouldn't score if we played for the next 18 nights, let alone minutes.
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We're going out against Luton aren't we?
We've done it before - didn't "ex Birmingham City legend" Bob Hatton score both goals in a 0-2 for them at VP about thirty years back..
We have not beaten Luton at K road since 1964 apparently.
1989 we won 1-0. Our only wins there.
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The contrast with Elphick out is huge. It's staggering how bad Gardner, Okore and Richards are. Absolutely staggering.
No opinion on Gardner, but why the other two weren't dispatched I don't know.
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This is why we needed a manager like Pearson or Pulis. Someone to whip this lot into shape, not a wet lettuce like Di Matteo. Owners a joke too. Stop telling lies Xia and sort this mess out.
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Looking for positives here .... Only one I can find is its a good stream
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We have lost every single 1 on 1 battle for about 15minutes. Completely inexcusable
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What on earth did Richards think he was doing in the build up to that last goal?
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Gary Gardner is bloody useless
not on his own then
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So now, its approaching 75 mins, and we have barely been out of our own half for the last 20 mins.
Fucking hell I want to scream.
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Gardner, Richards and Okore should be sold tomorrow. All three have been so pathetic it's painful
Okore should have been canned after taking the piss refusing to sit on the bench, Instead we made excuses for him and jackanory stories up. He's a disgrace.
Gardner shoves someone, the question is how on Earth did he manage to catch him to shove him, he's not been anywhere near anyone all night, donkey, that's why the Forest fans said he wasn't particularly good second season around. We chose to believe otherwise and kid ourselves. Same with Baker and Steer, players plying their trade, doing average, near the bottom of the divison.
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I am speechless
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We are making Luton look like fucking Barcelona.
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So has everyone woken up now to the fact we haven't remodelled the squad anywhere near enough yet and the embaressments from last season are likely to do really poor this season.
Promotion with these useless twats my arse.
Did anyone seriously think we'd get promoted this season? I've not heard anyone say that. (Are you joking?)
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Beneath disgraceful.
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The contrast with Elphick out is huge. It's staggering how bad Gardner, Okore and Richards are. Absolutely staggering.
No opinion on Gardner, but why the other two weren't dispatched I don't know.
Who'd want them seriously?
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At any other club Richards and Hutton would never play for them again.
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I didn't realise the plan was to be the new Portsmouth.
It's all making sense now.
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This is why we needed a manager like Pearson or Pulis. Someone to whip this lot into shape, not a wet lettuce like Di Matteo. Owners a joke too. Stop telling lies Xia and sort this mess out.
Bore off you Stripey ******.
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Why does that fucking fat head Okore keep kicking it out? Does he not know we are fucking losing?
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Tony is going to have a busy phone tonight.
Sad thing is, bar one player, this bunch of losers is very much a team from last season. "Led" by ex footballer Micah Richards.
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Fucking disgrace the lot of them
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Completely dominated by a league 2 team. Can it get any worse?
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The schadenfreude of last Friday night and last night is looking somewhat previous.
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I laughed at sha last night, oh I feel cnt now
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So has everyone woken up now to the fact we haven't remodelled the squad anywhere near enough yet and the embaressments from last season are likely to do really poor this season.
Promotion with these useless twats my arse.
Did anyone seriously think we'd get promoted this season? I've not heard anyone say that. (Are you joking?)
Plenty of comments about pissing the division or being there or there abouts.
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It's all very Doncaster-ish.
Useless.
Where's the urgency? The desire to get back in the game?
I've only watched this half. Were we any better first half?
I've got a Dutch stream on, currently showing the faces of Villa fans...that's exactly how I look. Jesus, we need something to cheer about.
Last observation-what is that fuckwit Richards doing in the team? An utter disgrace. And Gardner! Fuck OFF!
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Just proves we need 5 or 6 new players quickly
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How the fuck am I meant to go to work tomorrow? Thanks.
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Hope they post another pic from the coach tonight. Wankers.
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At least we are being consistent.
We are continuing to make ourselves a fucking laughing stock.
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FFS Okore, we're losing, stop pointlessly shanking it into touch every ten fucking seconds
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We are making Luton look like fucking Barcelona.
To be fair, most of their players actually genuinely look better than ours - stronger, better touch, better off the ball. There will always be a few top-flight (or 2nd tier) players who shouldn't be there and make it off the back of classy teammates. We are like an experiment in what happens when you put 11 such passengers together. There doesn't appear to be a limit to the level we could potentially drop with this bunch.
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Does seem to be the attitude of just turn up and win with this lot. We're on more money so that's how the world works right!
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Damage limitation against Luton.
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How can we go from looking like walking it for 20 mins to utter gash so quickly? After the first 20 mins that's the worst I've seen seen by a Villa side...and that's saying something..
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Richards, Gardner, Hutton and Baker should never ever play again.
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10 fucking minutes left and we haven't got out of our half for most of the second period.
Aaaaarrrrrrggggghhhhhhh!
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The most disgraceful thing about this is the way we spinelessly fell to fucking pieces so easily. Against a League Two side.
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Promotion......ROFL!
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How the fuck am I meant to go to work tomorrow? Thanks.
Same as you have for the last 4-5 years.
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Is this season over yet?
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How long before our new players think fuck it and the death spiral starts again. That's the thing if try and sort out a busted team like us in half measures. Fucking morons.
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Okore can fuck off. Lazy own goal like the one at Liverpool.
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Get Gestede on ffs!!!
Oh.
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Richards, Gardner, Hutton and Baker should never ever play again.
Agree...you can probably chuck Okore in there as well..
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The most disgraceful thing about this is the way we spinelessly fell to fucking pieces so easily. Against a League Two side.
Yep. We are the most mentally weak side I've ever seen.
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If we score here, I'll cut my balls off and feed them to the cat. I don't even have a cat, so I'll have to buy a cat.
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The most disgraceful thing about this is the way we spinelessly fell to fucking pieces so easily. Against a League Two side.
Yep and it's a worry...imagine the pressure Saturday now...
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So has everyone woken up now to the fact we haven't remodelled the squad anywhere near enough yet and the embaressments from last season are likely to do really poor this season.
Promotion with these useless twats my arse.
Did anyone seriously think we'd get promoted this season? I've not heard anyone say that. (Are you joking?)
Plenty of comments about pissing the division or being there or there abouts.
Blimey. I don't understand how people can think that. The bottom 4/5/6 of the top division are probably equal to top 4/5/6/7 Championship. We were relegated in embarrassing circumstances. We just need to stay up.
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Well that just sums Hutton up. No pressure, picks a 40 yard pass straight out for a goal kick.
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Jordan Ayew.
Enigma
Or
Moody c***
?
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Wow, Hutton. Fucking hell.
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fuck off Hutton you useless pr*ck
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>:(Get used to matches like this for the rest of the season , I'm afraid
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Fucking hell. Alan Fucking Hutton.
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I wish we had Nigel Pearson in that dugout.
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Utter shite , gallows humour helped me last season .... I'm not sure it can do it again
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That pass summed up Hutton's entire career.
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Sorry bollocks to anyone who says Hutton is good enough, he isn't. He's not good enough in any way, shape or form.
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Get Gestede on ffs!!!
Oh.
How does a player disappear like he has? Paul Daniels would have loved to know.
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Look at the positives - at least now we know why Eric Black didn't want to play the youngsters...
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I wish we had Nigel Pearson in that dugout.
Pep Guardiola wouldn't get much out of this bunch of arseholes.
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McInally, Platt, Saunders, Atkinson, Yorke, McGrath, Savo..... I dreamt all of you. Did it ever happen or have we been like this forever?
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I wish we had Nigel Pearson in that dugout.
I'd rather relegation than have him at my club.
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And we were aghast when Moyes passed up the chance to turn us around.
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i'll be there Saturday but , reality is hard. we are poor
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It's not a coincidence that we play Richards, Hutton and Okore in defence, with Gardner as part of a two man midfield and we look abysmal. They're awful players low on confidence.
None of them should play for us again.
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Can you imagine the atmosphere if things go wrong against Rotherham?
Come on lads.
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Does seem to be the attitude of just turn up and win with this lot. We're on more money so that's how the world works right!
I don't know where they've got that idea from seeing as they've won a handful of games in a year and get routinely beaten all the time.
The problem is they are genuinely poor players with terrible mentalities and in some cases attitudes. We need about 5 more in.
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We have a freekick in a good area, it will end up in the crowd.
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Gunter, Chester, Jedinak, Bamford and another midfielder with pace need to be brought in asap
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Commentators saying this is embarrassing. Clearly haven't watched us very much the last 5 years.
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Don't worry Paddy Riley was at Wolves last night looking for some more gems.
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McInally, Platt, Saunders, Atkinson, Yorke, McGrath, Savo..... I dreamt all of you. Did it ever happen or have we been like this forever?
I wish we could go back to that day we let Yorke go and think a little longer.
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i'll be there Saturday but , reality is hard. we are poor
So will thousands of us Tone.
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There you go.
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Defense is awful but the middle of the midfield is a whole new level of awful....just been totally dominated by a league 2 side and all the good vibes from the second half display at the weekend have just gone...If he doesn't go out and get a couple of midfield generals after this we are in for a torrid season....
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In all seriousness, how far does our club need to fall before we start the way back up?!
This is absolute bullshit.
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It's not a coincidence that we play Richards, Hutton and Okore in defence, with Gardner as part of a two man midfield and we look abysmal. They're awful players low on confidence.
None of them should play for us again.
This...fuming..
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Was Dr Tone talking about meltdown signings? What he must have meant was that he was going to sign that lot of donkey's over to the glue factory for melting down.
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I wish we had Nigel Pearson in that dugout.
Me too. RDM wrong appointment for the shit we're in
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Can you imagine the atmosphere if things go wrong against Rotherham?
Come on lads.
It really shouldn't be like this with a new owner who is flashing the cash.
Naive from the management imo, we need to stop messing about and get 3-4 in next few weeks.
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Gunter, Chester, Jedinak, Bamford and another midfielder with pace need to be brought in asap
Yep we just need to purge the squad of the players who have failed at every single turn.
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Anyone still think ''we're going to piss the league '' ?
We need at least 6 new players - preferably 8
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I think what we're slowly starting to realise is that we are even more of a basket case than we thought we were.
If we are going to rely on utter shit like Richards, Hutton, Okore, Gestede for the rest of the season, then we don't have a chance of promotion.
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The necessary mass clearout never happened and now we're paying for it.
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Richards, Gardner, Hutton and Baker should never ever play again.
Swap Baker for Okore and I agree
and at best Baker should be LCB back up
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Well ... I bet Tony is glad he's got #askthechairman out of the way .
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Aston Villa aint what I remember them as. Set of ******, and that's swearing!!!
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Okore. Fucking hell.
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I'm worried that this midfielder Xia says we've almost signed will turn out to be some frivolous non-delivering show pony like Ravel Morrison rather than a Jedinak-esque hard fucker which is what we need more than anything.
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And Okore almost scores another own goal, useless fucking muppet.
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Another great attempt on goal by Okore
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I think what we're slowly starting to realise is that we are even more of a basket case than we thought we were.
If we are going to rely on utter shit like Richards, Hutton, Okore, Gestede for the rest of the season, then we don't have a chance of promotion.
Scary thing is 10 have gone and 3 more on their way.
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Okore's had more attempts on our goal than Luton's.
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Everything would be OK with Amavi back they said...
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The necessary mass clearout never happened and now we're paying for it.
Well, to be fair, there has been a mass clear out.
But the some wrong ones have gone first
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most worrying for me is rdm has had absolutely fuck all impact and looks just as clueless as the rest of the fuckwits
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We don't have a midfield, we haven't had one for years. There's just nothing there, a group of players running around, playing 5 yard passes and chasing shadows, 3 players doing the job of 1 and badly at that. I've said it all summer, we need to buy an entire new midfield.
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I really don't think even this will be our lowest point
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Scum bags. Our fuck wit owner is good value on Twitter though hey.
Bit early to be blaming Dr. Tone.
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A cheeky attempt at the chip for the brace from Okore.
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I wish we had Nigel Pearson in that dugout.
Me too. RDM wrong appointment for the shit we're in
We're very lucky you pair weren't in charge in 1987.
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I'm worried that this midfielder Xia says we've almost signed will turn out to be some frivolous non-delivering show pony like Ravel Morrison rather than a Jedinak-esque hard fucker which is what we need more than anything.
We need 2. And to fuck Gardner off. And get another good centre half. At any cost.
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My links has gone down. Thank fuck
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Okore's on fire tonight.
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Oh well we will be the biggest club in Europe within 5 years according to Dr X.
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What's the current spread on by which game RDM will start to wear the Remi Garde / Tim Sherwood / Paul Lambert utter haunted look?
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Oh well we will be the biggest club in Europe within 5 years according to Dr X.
You misheard. It's biggest pile of shit in Europe. Should be piss easy.
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I wonder when we'll have a team that looks coached and plays a system with some effect.
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What's the current spread on by which game RDM will start to wear the Remi Garde / Tim Sherwood / Paul Lambert utter haunted look?
He's looking that way already. He hasn't moved an inch for about 20 minutes.
Has he passed away?
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Sorry, but the new owner, the new manager, the new board and the new coaches have changed nothing. The team is riddled with a cowardly, losing mentality that is as present today as it has been since the FA Cup Final. We are in free fall.
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Not a single leader on the pitch. Woefully brittle, but with some gruesomely poor players in there what do we expect?
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most worrying for me is rdm has had absolutely fuck all impact and looks just as clueless as the rest of the fuckwits
I was thinking that myself, we need a hard bastard , to give these fuckwits what for.
and I don't give a shit but yes pulis could do it.
yes I think his a ****** as well, but he wouldn't fuck about.
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In the absence of any hair, I predict RDM's head will turn grey by the end of September.
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I really don't think even this will be our lowest point
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It's getting to the point we should burn Bodymore and VP to the ground and start again somewhere else. The club is cursed through and through.
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Sorry, but the new owner, the new manager, the new board and the new coaches have changed nothing. The team is riddled with a cowardly, losing mentality that is as present today as it has been since the FA Cup Final. We are in free fall.
Exactly. The only way we can move forward is to literally dump the whole old squad off and get a whole new one in.
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Oh well we will be the biggest club in Europe within 5 years according to Dr X.
Sure he didn't say biggest in the Conference?
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I wonder when we'll have a team that looks coached and plays a system with some effect.
Well we have competent coaches on the bench...Bond was part of a Spurs set up that finished top 6 regularly and Clarke has achieved good results with teams he's been assistant at.
It's time we called some of these players out and get shot of them.....if it takes us another season to get out of the championship so be it as we have next to no chance of promotion the state we're currently in.
And that is ridiculous considering Lerner is no longer the owner.