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Title: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: olaftab on July 29, 2016, 08:25:46 PM
Now that everyone is there or not  as in the case of lot of Russians time to look forward to the games.
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Post by: cdbearsfan on July 30, 2016, 02:45:38 PM
Looking forward to it but worried a lot of the best events will be on at stupid o'clock to suit American prime-time TV.
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Post by: ACVilla on July 31, 2016, 09:15:29 AM
The best Athletics events will all be on between about 11pm and 3am.
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Post by: spangley1812 on July 31, 2016, 02:56:02 PM
I have just looked and the 100m Final is on @ 02:20am GMT 
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Post by: cdbearsfan on July 31, 2016, 03:53:53 PM
Doubt I'll watch that then. Might stay up for the Saturday night/Sunday morning which features Farah, Rutherford, Ennis-Hill and Johnson-Thomson.
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Post by: cdbearsfan on July 31, 2016, 03:54:49 PM
Also the cycling should be on at a reasonable time and we usually have plenty of medal hopes in that. Rowing might be on while I'm at work but will watch discretely if the boss isn't in.
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Post by: Dave Cooper please on July 31, 2016, 11:53:00 PM
I'm looking forward to the women's weightlifting, I especially like the snatch.
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Post by: usav on August 01, 2016, 02:46:16 PM
Looking forward to it but worried a lot of the best events will be on at stupid o'clock to suit American prime-time TV.

Firstly, a lot of Brazil is in the same timezone(s) as America, and in fact, NBC were heavily criticised during the London Olympics for insisting on not showing the events live and instead broadcasting the taped version as though they were live for prime time in America.   As people noted at the time, in this day and age with streaming media content, it is not necessary.  However, NBC plan on doing the same this time around.
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Post by: cdbearsfan on August 01, 2016, 10:02:26 PM
Happy to be corrected. I know Brazil is in the same timezone as America but most World Cup games weren't on so late. Only one kicked off after midnight our time, if I remember correctly.

I thought they often scheduled to suit the US TV market, I seem to recall some fuss over them holding all the swimming finals in the morning when it was in China for that very reason.

Whatever the reason, it's a shame from entirely selfish point of view that (at least) the next two Summer Olympics are in an awkward timezone from our point of view.

It's about time Africa got a go at hosting, that'd be fine for us!
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: olaftab on August 03, 2016, 10:00:08 AM
Lizzie Armitstead is a very lucky lady. First one could be possibly excused but next two.....
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Post by: UK Redsox on August 03, 2016, 11:48:14 AM
Looking forward to it but worried a lot of the best events will be on at stupid o'clock to suit American prime-time TV.

Firstly, a lot of Brazil is in the same timezone(s) as America, and in fact, NBC were heavily criticised during the London Olympics for insisting on not showing the events live and instead broadcasting the taped version as though they were live for prime time in America.   As people noted at the time, in this day and age with streaming media content, it is not necessary.  However, NBC plan on doing the same this time around.

NBC are showing more live these days but not necessarily on their main channel.

However, their continuing to show events as-live in prime time is so last century. Hopefully they're up front these days about it being recorded.

Bob Costas is good though. After his pink eye in Sochi, I wonder how worried he is about Zika
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Post by: UK Redsox on August 03, 2016, 11:48:55 AM
Lizzie Armitstead is a very lucky lady. First one could be possibly excused but next two.....

Would she have got away with this if she was Russian ?

Somehow I doubt it
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Post by: UK Redsox on August 03, 2016, 12:15:41 PM
80 years ago today

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Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 04, 2016, 06:58:21 PM
I can't wait for the Olympics.

I will automatically become an expert in sports I never ever watch.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: usav on August 05, 2016, 12:41:23 PM
Lizzie Armitstead - discuss.
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Post by: ACVilla on August 05, 2016, 12:44:47 PM
Shouldn't be there. Tarnished forever.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: usav on August 05, 2016, 12:57:46 PM
She seems genuine in her tears during an interview I just watched on Sky, but really, with all the question marks around British cycling it certainly leaves a bad taste in the mouth.
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Post by: ACVilla on August 05, 2016, 01:34:53 PM
If she is looking for sympathy and understanding she may wish to release more details of her "family crisis" she keeps blaming for the missed test.

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Post by: Dave Cooper please on August 05, 2016, 03:09:39 PM
Lizzie Armitstead - discuss.

No she rides a bike.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: olaftab on August 05, 2016, 03:48:13 PM
Very  funny Mr Cooper.

3 missed tests sorry but she should not be there.
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Post by: Exeter 77 on August 05, 2016, 04:10:41 PM
Very  funny Mr Cooper.

3 missed tests sorry but she should not be there.
Very  funny Mr Cooper.

3 missed tests sorry but she should not be there.
Christine Ohuruogu was banned for a year for the same thing despite never failing a test.
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Post by: Dave Cooper please on August 05, 2016, 04:48:56 PM
Very  funny Mr Cooper.

3 missed tests sorry but she should not be there.

Sorry, couldn't help it.

No, I agree, if that had been an athlete from another country who had missed three tests and was a genuine hope for a medal people would be up in arms about our plucky British cyclist potentially being robbed of a medal. As a bloke (rower I think) on Five Live said, if you miss just one test you spend the next year sleeping by the front door so you don't miss the next one such are the consequences (or should be).
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 05, 2016, 06:17:05 PM
Lizzie Armitstead - discuss.

Nah, she's entered in cycling
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 05, 2016, 06:20:48 PM
Very  funny Mr Cooper.

3 missed tests sorry but she should not be there.

Haven't they conceded that on one of the tests, the examiners did not try hard enough to locate her?

Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 05, 2016, 07:56:35 PM
This is a lovely story

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/aug/05/uber-driver-olympics-rio-2016-kindness-crowdfunding
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: manic-road on August 05, 2016, 09:43:57 PM
A Greek athlete has just been kicked out of the Olympics for testing positive, didn't take long did it?
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Louzie0 on August 06, 2016, 12:22:03 AM
Rather imaginative opening ceremony
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Post by: Louzie0 on August 06, 2016, 12:38:29 AM
After the disco, the multicoloured Yetis!
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Post by: thick_mike on August 06, 2016, 01:15:59 AM
Kasakstan is the world's largest land locked country
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Post by: thick_mike on August 06, 2016, 01:17:20 AM
Great to hear about any political unrest and mineral wealth status of each country.
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Post by: thick_mike on August 06, 2016, 01:28:13 AM
Dominican Republic - 'Iceland in the sun'
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Post by: thick_mike on August 06, 2016, 01:46:31 AM
Guinea - world's second largest producer of bauxite
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Post by: thick_mike on August 06, 2016, 01:49:07 AM
There are some terrifically healthy looking people in this parade.
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Post by: thick_mike on August 06, 2016, 02:06:21 AM
Last dodo killed in 1681 in Mauritius.
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Post by: Louzie0 on August 06, 2016, 02:12:17 AM

Nauru - 'the most overweight country' !
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Post by: Louzie0 on August 06, 2016, 02:15:23 AM
How many Russians will turn up? Tension mounting.

Not really!
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Post by: Louzie0 on August 06, 2016, 02:17:33 AM
One or two men only teams, looking anachronistic.
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Post by: Louzie0 on August 06, 2016, 02:49:19 AM
Cool reception for Russian team, quite a lot have made it to Rio.
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Post by: Louzie0 on August 06, 2016, 02:52:02 AM
Huge cheer for the refugee team.
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Post by: UK Redsox on August 06, 2016, 04:03:12 PM
USA's first gold is in a shooting event. There's a surprise
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Post by: four fornicholl on August 06, 2016, 06:00:05 PM
Into the last hour of the road race and Chris Froome is perfectly placed. As are Yates and Thomas. Come on team GB 1,2,3.
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Post by: Louzie0 on August 06, 2016, 07:09:22 PM
People all over the road as the racers climb for the last time. It's mad!
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Post by: SteveN on August 06, 2016, 07:47:25 PM
Tremendous road race on an absolute brute of a course.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: dave shelley on August 06, 2016, 07:58:29 PM
Apologies if I'm late with this but, Adam Peaty has just broken the world record in the 100m Breaststroke heats.
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Post by: thick_mike on August 06, 2016, 08:17:30 PM
Great road race put a real hole in my day!
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Post by: Ron Manager on August 06, 2016, 08:26:00 PM
USA's first gold is in a shooting event. There's a surprise
That's what Lady Ron said!
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Ron Manager on August 06, 2016, 08:28:31 PM
Apologies if I'm late with this but, Adam Peaty has just broken the world record in the 100m Breaststroke heats.
Absolutely took it apart!
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: wittonwarrior on August 06, 2016, 11:50:35 PM
Apologies if I'm late with this but, Adam Peaty has just broken the world record in the 100m Breaststroke heats.
Absolutely took it apart!

When you watch Peaty his technique  is everything you are told not to do for breast stroke, his leg strokes are more like  a  butterfly kick  rather than wide and then clicking together.  Probably the reason why we seldom win any swimming gongs.
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Post by: paul_e on August 07, 2016, 12:03:36 AM
Apologies if I'm late with this but, Adam Peaty has just broken the world record in the 100m Breaststroke heats.
Absolutely took it apart!

Phenomenal athlete, over a second (in a sub minute race) ahead of anyone else in the world and has been the best in 50 and 100m for a couple of years and yet hardly anyone has heard of him and he has absolutely no chance of any major recognition, bet he won't even make the back covers tomorrow despite destroying his own world record in the heat.  He was one of 2 (along with Rutherford) that I tried to champion for sports personality of the year, was far more deserving than the likes of Murray, Hamilton and Fury but profile matters far more than ability.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 07, 2016, 08:49:42 AM
Peaty has been the biggest bright spark for Britain so far. Should win gold, shame that hardly anyone will see it as it's on so late. Good win for the hockey girls against the Convictesses.
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Post by: TopDeck113 on August 07, 2016, 08:57:04 AM
The cycling road race was brutal - more like one of the Spring Monuments than the stages of the Tour that most people are familiar with, so fitting then that the winner should be from the heartlands of that form of the sport.

I also enjoyed the women's rugby sevens. 
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Post by: ADVILLAFAN on August 07, 2016, 09:12:13 AM
My nan had the cycling on yesterday. Not my cup of tea but I did enjoy the scenery around Rio
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Post by: paul_e on August 07, 2016, 08:17:16 PM
i hope Van Vleuten is ok from the women's roadrace but her crash looked truly horrific, Nibali broke both collar bones yesterday and her's looks far worse.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: four fornicholl on August 07, 2016, 08:47:48 PM
I can understand most sports, but fk me fencings beyond me!
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Post by: SashasGrandad on August 07, 2016, 08:53:12 PM
I can understand most sports, but fk me fencings beyond me!

You just need 2 posts 6ft apart - then nail a panel in between.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: olaftab on August 07, 2016, 11:29:48 PM
The cycling road race was brutal - more like one of the Spring Monuments than the stages of the Tour that most people are familiar with, so fitting then that the winner should be from the heartlands of that form of the sport.

I also enjoyed the women's rugby sevens. 
I enjoyed the beach volleyball and I am pleased  Lizard Armistead didn't win a medal.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: olaftab on August 07, 2016, 11:31:19 PM
I can understand most sports, but fk me fencings beyond me!
Things like fencing and shooting should have no place in modern Olympics.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 07, 2016, 11:38:02 PM
That was a horrible leg break that fella had in the vault.
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Post by: paul_e on August 08, 2016, 12:03:46 AM
i hope Van Vleuten is ok from the women's roadrace but her crash looked truly horrific, Nibali broke both collar bones yesterday and her's looks far worse.

Quoting myself but BBC have said she's conscious but has 3 breaks in her back and has severe concussion so she's in intensive care.  Not a surprise in the slightest, I'd go so far as to say I suspected worse.

There is a video of it on youtube if anyone wants to watch, it's really nasty though, flips off the bike, lands on her head and then slams into the concrete 'kerb' and just sort of crumples in place and doesn't move.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: paul_e on August 08, 2016, 12:15:49 AM
Apologies if I'm late with this but, Adam Peaty has just broken the world record in the 100m Breaststroke heats.
Absolutely took it apart!

Phenomenal athlete, over a second (in a sub minute race) ahead of anyone else in the world and has been the best in 50 and 100m for a couple of years and yet hardly anyone has heard of him and he has absolutely no chance of any major recognition, bet he won't even make the back covers tomorrow despite destroying his own world record in the heat.  He was one of 2 (along with Rutherford) that I tried to champion for sports personality of the year, was far more deserving than the likes of Murray, Hamilton and Fury but profile matters far more than ability.

I'm soo glad that this was wrong and he's been being bigged up all day, he thoroughly deserves this.  On the BBC Mark Foster made a very brief comparison to Usain Bolt (in terms of how far ahead of the field he is) which sums up why I think he needs to be a lot more of a household name.
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Post by: Louzie0 on August 08, 2016, 03:24:45 AM
He just won the gold and set a new world record again. Twice in 2 days!
Incredible.
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Post by: Ron Manager on August 08, 2016, 07:37:57 AM
If Peaty was a track athlete he would be world famous.He has in his sport achieved everything by the age of 21.

And he is English!
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Post by: paul_e on August 08, 2016, 08:40:37 AM
Got up to watch the final Peaty made it look so easy.  The next race was the women's 400m freestyle Carlin got a very good silver but Ledecky who won it was ridiculously good.
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Post by: Dave Cooper please on August 08, 2016, 10:17:45 AM
Peaty looks about 14!
In my state of post-cricket haziness I must have set the BBC app to alert me to British medals, got woken up at some ungodly hour twice as Peaty and Carlin finished their races.
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Post by: mrfuse on August 08, 2016, 12:20:00 PM
Well done to Adam Peaty and Jazz Carlin.

That's real dedication and hard work and it puts many footballers to shame doesn't it when you see Britain's Olympic hopefuls competing.
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Post by: Comrade Blitz on August 08, 2016, 01:10:52 PM
During the opening ceremonies Twitter appears to have suppressed the hastag #nbcfail from trending.

While the whole world was watching live, NBC was dawdling on about all sorts in the few minutes they weren't showing adverts. We VPN'd into the CBC feed while reading the hilarious tweets about #nbcfail

http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/2016-olympics-opening-ceremony-nbc-telecast-too-many-commercials-1201831764/
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Post by: PGW on August 08, 2016, 04:08:06 PM
Watching the Boxing earlier was sorry to see young Yafai get eliminated against the world best, a Cuban by a split decision.
Cracking little fight more deserving of a bout with a medal at stake. Pure bad luck with the draw i suppose.

Irish lad Paddy Barnes, Bronze medallist on 2 occasions previously also eliminated by a Spaniard.
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Post by: PGW on August 08, 2016, 04:43:53 PM
Kyle Edmunds knocked out of Men's singles 2nd rd match v Japans Taro Daniel 6-4, 7-5
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Post by: PGW on August 08, 2016, 05:41:41 PM
Johanna Konta won her first set 6-2 v Garcia (France)
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Post by: PGW on August 08, 2016, 06:36:26 PM
Johanna Konta won her first set 6-2 v Garcia (France)
She won 6-2, 6-3
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Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 08, 2016, 06:50:21 PM
Watching the Boxing earlier was sorry to see young Yafai get eliminated against the world best, a Cuban by a split decision.
Cracking little fight more deserving of a bout with a medal at stake. Pure bad luck with the draw i suppose.

Irish lad Paddy Barnes, Bronze medallist on 2 occasions previously also eliminated by a Spaniard.

Can't get used to the olympic boxing without the helmets. Looks silly
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Post by: PGW on August 08, 2016, 07:28:06 PM
Heather Watson gone out 3-6 6-1 3-6 to Svitolina (15) UKR
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Post by: cdbearsfan on August 08, 2016, 09:38:06 PM
I can't understand why it's safer for women to wear headgear but considered less dangerous for men to go without.
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Post by: Exeter 77 on August 08, 2016, 10:02:59 PM
Sounds like there was a bit of a scrap in the stands at the tennis in the game between Juan Martin Del Potro and Joao Sousa. Hooliganism at tennis! It's like going back to the dark ages ;)
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: olaftab on August 08, 2016, 10:07:15 PM
If Peaty was a track athlete he would be world famous.He has in his sport achieved everything by the age of 21.

And he is English!
British😉
Anyway superb effort and it was reminiscint of Bolt winning the 100 Ms final. He was so far ahead that he watched the others come in...fantastic😂
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Post by: ACVilla on August 08, 2016, 10:41:53 PM
Tom Daley gets far more attention than he deserves but a well fought bronze medal for him tonight with Daniel Goodfellow.

Louis Smith's fall from the pommel horse has looked like its condemed is to 4th.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 08, 2016, 10:44:17 PM
Tom Daley gets far more attention than he deserves but a well fought bronze medal for him tonight with Daniel Goodfellow.

Louis Smith's fall from the pommel horse has looked like its condemed is to 4th.

Unfortunate for Smith, would have been a guaranteed bronze without the fall
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: ACVilla on August 08, 2016, 10:44:36 PM
Tom Daley gets far more attention than he deserves but a well fought bronze medal for him tonight with Daniel Goodfellow.

Louis Smith's fall from the pommel horse has looked like its condemed is to 4th.
Russian gymnast + severe acne = heightened suspicion.
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Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 08, 2016, 10:45:22 PM
GB womens Rugby 7's team look to have a case of the fourth's also
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Post by: Rudy65 on August 08, 2016, 10:46:57 PM
Tom Daley gets far more attention than he deserves but a well fought bronze medal for him tonight with Daniel Goodfellow.

Louis Smith's fall from the pommel horse has looked like its condemed is to 4th.

Smith might have been better to go safer rather than taking risks. Difficult call but a bronze is better than nowt. Wiomder how his team mates feel about him

See the cheating Russians got a medal
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Post by: ACVilla on August 08, 2016, 11:03:30 PM
Tom Daley gets far more attention than he deserves but a well fought bronze medal for him tonight with Daniel Goodfellow.

Louis Smith's fall from the pommel horse has looked like its condemed is to 4th.

Smith might have been better to go safer rather than taking risks. Difficult call but a bronze is better than nowt. Wiomder how his team mates feel about him

See the cheating Russians got a medal
Nah, I disagree. I think we were too far behind and needed a couple of very, very good scores. Fair play to him for going for it, I'm sure it was a team decision.

See my above quoted post regarding the Russians.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: ACVilla on August 08, 2016, 11:26:30 PM
Currently watching GBR women beat India at hockey.

Hockey has the potential to be a very watchable game.

Get rid of the sticks. Let them kick the ball. You've got yourself a sport.
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Post by: UK Redsox on August 09, 2016, 12:03:29 PM
I played Field Hockey as a kid and then again a few years ago. Bloody dangerous sport
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Post by: LeeS on August 09, 2016, 12:45:31 PM
Tom Daley gets far more attention than he deserves but a well fought bronze medal for him tonight with Daniel Goodfellow.

Louis Smith's fall from the pommel horse has looked like its condemed is to 4th.

Unfortunate for Smith, would have been a guaranteed bronze without the fall

Just caught up on a recording from last night. I think it was Max Whitlock's totally lacklustre all-round performance that cost us. He really underperformed. Smith was told to go for the difficult routine but it wouldn't have made a difference anyway. Unless, of course, his falling off meant the Chinese could go easy with some of their routines on the high bar and he failed to put them under pressure. Sadly, the TV coverage was awful and you didn't know what was happening in what order.

On a separate note - I just cant get excited by bronze medals. I know we set ourselves a total medal target, irrespective of colour, but bronze is worth a tenth of a gold, in my view. I'd be gutted if I was in contention and walked away with that colour. I'd probably hand it to a kid in the crowd.
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Post by: dave shelley on August 09, 2016, 01:13:06 PM
I understand your point LeeS but the worst place you can finish is fourth.  After four or more years of hard graft, sacrifice and commitment a medal of any colour has to be something an athlete can really be proud of, along with all his/her countrymen/women.
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Post by: LeeS on August 09, 2016, 02:10:22 PM
I understand your point LeeS but the worst place you can finish is fourth.  After four or more years of hard graft, sacrifice and commitment a medal of any colour has to be something an athlete can really be proud of, along with all his/her countrymen/women.

If I finished 4th I'd find another sport. Some of the athletes just seem pleased to be there - like its an achievement in itself, rather than an honour. I prefer the Ben Ainslie approach. He was going to win whatever happened and however he had to do it. His victory in Sydney was one of the greatest examples of win-at-all-costs ever. He skilfully blocked the Brazilian chap (who had narrowly beaten the teenage Ainslie in Atlanta) in the final race so that they both came in at the rear and Ainslie won the gold. In 2012 he had a similar experience where the Danish guy accused him of cheating and Ainslie decided to destroy him whilst taking gold. Love it.
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Post by: Dr Butler on August 09, 2016, 03:11:48 PM
Tom Daley gets far more attention than he deserves but a well fought bronze medal for him tonight with Daniel Goodfellow.

yeah I don't get the "hype" about Tom Daley far too over the top, but well done to him and Goodfellow (who incidently trained at the local pool in Cambridge) and as you say they fought hard for their bronze medal...

UTV
The Doc
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Post by: ACVilla on August 09, 2016, 03:41:58 PM
I played Field Hockey as a kid and then again a few years ago. Bloody dangerous sport
I played at school and quite enjoyed it. I also went to a semi final at London 2012 and enjoyed that as well.

Watching it last night however was a different matter. The constant whistling and stopping of the game due to minor ingressions made it totally unwatchable.

As an aside I saw Jane Sixsmith the other day, she lived just round the corner from me and it turns out she still plays hockey for Sutton.
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Post by: Stu on August 09, 2016, 05:04:50 PM
Japan beat NZ in the Rugby 7's.

Shame.
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Post by: dave shelley on August 09, 2016, 05:12:04 PM
Dutch gymnast sent home for being pissed.

Link (https://heatst.com/world/rio-2016-dutch-gymnast-kicked-out-of-olympics-after-night-of-drunken-celebration/)
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Post by: Villa in Denmark on August 09, 2016, 05:25:41 PM
What a self absorbed twat, looking at his form for similar down the years.
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Post by: ACVilla on August 09, 2016, 07:38:44 PM
David Florence has just had an absolute 'mare in the canoeing.
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Post by: PGW on August 09, 2016, 07:56:19 PM
Superb womens tennis match taking place our Johanna Konta just taken the 2nd set 7-5 to take match v Kuznetsova into a final set.
Trying to watch this along with T20...
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: ACVilla on August 09, 2016, 08:09:01 PM
Superb womens tennis match taking place our Johanna Konta just taken the 2nd set 7-5 to take match v Kuznetsova into a final set.
Trying to watch this along with T20...
Kiss-cam amused me greatly.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: PGW on August 09, 2016, 09:11:32 PM
Superb womens tennis match taking place our Johanna Konta just taken the 2nd set 7-5 to take match v Kuznetsova into a final set.
Trying to watch this along with T20...
Kiss-cam amused me greatly.
Fair play to camerawork there.
What a great match though 3 hours 7 minutes and Konta makes it through 3-6 7-5 7-5.
Into last 8 now. Truly was a great match i think they broke each other 7 times each.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: ACVilla on August 09, 2016, 09:16:55 PM
I turned over for the diving (we had a shocker in the last dive which cost us a bronze) but caught the end of the tennis. Good girl Konta, I like her a lot.

I'm watching the gymnastics but its sooooooooo hard to follow what is going on.

I don't watch a lot of TV but love the Olympics.
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Post by: Whiney MacWhineface on August 09, 2016, 09:21:20 PM
Tough match - both ladies looked dead on their feet.

Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Rudy65 on August 09, 2016, 09:25:49 PM
Tom Daley gets far more attention than he deserves but a well fought bronze medal for him tonight with Daniel Goodfellow.

Louis Smith's fall from the pommel horse has looked like its condemed is to 4th.

Unfortunate for Smith, would have been a guaranteed bronze without the fall

Just caught up on a recording from last night. I think it was Max Whitlock's totally lacklustre all-round performance that cost us. He really underperformed. Smith was told to go for the difficult routine but it wouldn't have made a difference anyway. Unless, of course, his falling off meant the Chinese could go easy with some of their routines on the high bar and he failed to put them under pressure. Sadly, the TV coverage was awful and you didn't know what was happening in what order.

On a separate note - I just cant get excited by bronze medals. I know we set ourselves a total medal target, irrespective of colour, but bronze is worth a tenth of a gold, in my view. I'd be gutted if I was in contention and walked away with that colour. I'd probably hand it to a kid in the crowd.

Really. We all want to be winners but being 3rd best in the world is pretty good for most including me
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Post by: Rudy65 on August 09, 2016, 09:30:28 PM
I understand your point LeeS but the worst place you can finish is fourth.  After four or more years of hard graft, sacrifice and commitment a medal of any colour has to be something an athlete can really be proud of, along with all his/her countrymen/women.

If I finished 4th I'd find another sport. Some of the athletes just seem pleased to be there - like its an achievement in itself, rather than an honour. I prefer the Ben Ainslie approach. He was going to win whatever happened and however he had to do it. His victory in Sydney was one of the greatest examples of win-at-all-costs ever. He skilfully blocked the Brazilian chap (who had narrowly beaten the teenage Ainslie in Atlanta) in the final race so that they both came in at the rear and Ainslie won the gold. In 2012 he had a similar experience where the Danish guy accused him of cheating and Ainslie decided to destroy him whilst taking gold. Love it.

It is an achievement. How can it not be?

If I was 4th place in the Olympics and was getting criticised I think I might be asking that person what have they ever achieved in their lives which is comparable

Maybe its just me

Ainslie was a cut above. On the basis of your comments above he wouldnt have had many to beat if the rest has merely given up
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Post by: usav on August 10, 2016, 03:53:29 AM
Phelps - best Olympian of all time, how can there be any debate?

Really pleased to see the Brits doing well in the pool after decades of nothing.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Dave Cooper please on August 10, 2016, 04:44:14 AM
Phelps - best Olympian of all time, how can there be any debate?


Has he been tested for fish DNA?
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Post by: cdbearsfan on August 10, 2016, 08:04:26 AM
Phelps - best Olympian of all time, how can there be any debate?

Because it's a lot easier to win medals in swimming than any other event. I'm sure there are people who have been similarly dominant in their given sports but haven't ended up with anywhere near as many titles.

I'd say Bolt is better. He's entered six events and won six golds.

Phelps has been beaten a few times.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: UK Redsox on August 10, 2016, 08:58:54 AM
Phelps - best Olympian of all time, how can there be any debate?

He's good but he's also a drink-driving arrogant knob who once pushed a mate of mine out of a (albeit stationery) car


Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on August 10, 2016, 12:14:06 PM
Phelps - best Olympian of all time, how can there be any debate?

He's good but he's also a drink-driving arrogant knob who once pushed a mate of mine out of a (albeit stationery) car




Doesn't he have Asperger's Syndrome? high functioning autism? might explain why he comes across as arrogant. So does Messi, by the way.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: usav on August 10, 2016, 12:34:16 PM
Phelps - best Olympian of all time, how can there be any debate?

He's good but he's also a drink-driving arrogant knob who once pushed a mate of mine out of a (albeit stationery) car
Mutually exclusive.  Some of the best people in their fields are knobs, it goes with the territory.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: dave shelley on August 10, 2016, 12:41:16 PM
Phelps - best Olympian of all time, how can there be any debate?

He's good but he's also a drink-driving arrogant knob who once pushed a mate of mine out of a (albeit stationery) car




Doesn't he have Asperger's Syndrome? high functioning autism? might explain why he comes across as arrogant. So does Messi, by the way.

I've just asked my daughter about this and, she says he was diagnosed as ADHD at about the age of thirteen.  She thinks she read that swimming was the way they decided to attempt to control it as opposed to going down the medication line.  Sorry, I have no links to prove/disprove.
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Post by: spangley1812 on August 10, 2016, 12:48:30 PM
Its raining in Rio today so conditions for the Men's and Women's road races are not clever - lets hope nobody gets badly injured

Rowing has been cancelled for the day due to it being too windy
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on August 10, 2016, 12:49:31 PM
Phelps - best Olympian of all time, how can there be any debate?

He's good but he's also a drink-driving arrogant knob who once pushed a mate of mine out of a (albeit stationery) car




Doesn't he have Asperger's Syndrome? high functioning autism? might explain why he comes across as arrogant. So does Messi, by the way.

I've just asked my daughter about this and, she says he was diagnosed as ADHD at about the age of thirteen.  She thinks she read that swimming was the way they decided to attempt to control it as opposed to going down the medication line.  Sorry, I have no links to prove/disprove.

Same with Louis Smith, GB gymnast
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: PGW on August 10, 2016, 03:17:43 PM
Argilagos the little Cuban who beat Galal Yafai in the boxing was on just against a Kenyan and absolutely boxed the life
out of him. I thought the other day that the best 2 boxers met in first round and today only further enhances my belief.
Yafai lost by 1 point this Kenyan lost by 4 points on one of the judges cards here today. Yafai so unfortunate to meet him
so early.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: PGW on August 10, 2016, 04:04:09 PM
Looks like another Team GB boxer going out - Ashfaq has been beaten in fact well beaten by a Thai...Butdee
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 10, 2016, 04:55:07 PM
Been a poor olympics so far for Britain
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Whiney MacWhineface on August 10, 2016, 04:57:30 PM
Froome got bronze - Cancellara murdered the field.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: LeeS on August 10, 2016, 04:58:58 PM
Been a poor olympics so far for Britain

Another bronze from Froomy. Meh.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: PGW on August 10, 2016, 07:02:28 PM
GB Women beat Argentina women 3-2 in hockey
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 10, 2016, 07:46:30 PM
Gold for Joe Clarke in the canoeing. Plus we got bronze in shooting  (was always gonna happen as the playoff was between two Brits).
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: TopDeck113 on August 10, 2016, 07:47:39 PM
If Staffordshire was a country, where would it be in the medal table?
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: ACVilla on August 10, 2016, 08:18:31 PM
That canoeing was great stuff. Looking forward to the judo shortly where Sally Conway fights in the semi after 3 ippons in a row.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: ACVilla on August 10, 2016, 09:26:45 PM
Been a poor olympics so far for Britain
You were saying?
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 10, 2016, 09:38:52 PM
Been a poor olympics so far for Britain
You were saying?

Knew it would work
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 10, 2016, 09:52:24 PM
Great gold for Jo Clark earlier.
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Post by: Risso on August 10, 2016, 10:51:47 PM
Bronze from Manxman Tim Kneale in the shooting. He used to play for the local rugby club my son plays for.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 10, 2016, 11:01:10 PM
You only have to say he's Manx and we can all guess that you know him, there's only about half a dozen people there!
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Risso on August 10, 2016, 11:12:21 PM
Actually, I was reacting to an erroneous post from a mate of mine who's friends with him, he lost the bronze match, so ignore the post!
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Dave Cooper please on August 10, 2016, 11:17:37 PM
First ever diving gold and an excellent bronze for Max Whitlock in the PE.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: dave.woodhall on August 11, 2016, 12:05:04 AM
First ever diving gold and an excellent bronze for Max Whitlock in the PE.

Being a teacher is now an Olympic sport?
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Dave Cooper please on August 11, 2016, 12:17:33 AM
First ever diving gold and an excellent bronze for Max Whitlock in the PE.

Being a teacher is now an Olympic sport?

No, but running and jumping about in your vest and pants is.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Comrade Blitz on August 11, 2016, 12:31:13 PM
Had to turn the swimming off because of those two giggling eejits.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: ACVilla on August 11, 2016, 01:00:13 PM
Had to turn the swimming off because of those two giggling eejits.
It's getting embarrassing isn't it.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 11, 2016, 03:36:50 PM
Silver in rowing, I was hoping for gold though. 😣
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: UK Redsox on August 11, 2016, 03:51:42 PM
Silver in rowing, I was hoping for gold though. 😣

I didn't even know that you were competing in Rio cd.
Still, congrats on the silver
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 11, 2016, 04:32:07 PM
Justin Rose has had a hole in one.

I don't think Golf should be in the olympics. Unless Britain win the gold
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: ACVilla on August 11, 2016, 05:00:22 PM
Justin Rose has had a hole in one.

I don't think Golf should be in the olympics. Unless Britain win the gold
I can't help but wonder what it is that makes golfers so much more susceptible to the zika virus than the rest of human kind.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 11, 2016, 05:01:47 PM
Justin Rose has had a hole in one.

I don't think Golf should be in the olympics. Unless Britain win the gold
I can't help but wonder what it is that makes golfers so much more susceptible to the zika virus than the rest of human kind.

I think their fear of the Zika virus was heightened when they realised they would not be playing for prize money.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 11, 2016, 05:03:43 PM
It really shouldn't be an Olympic sport anyway.

Neither should Football, Basketball, Tennis, Road Cycling etc in my opinion.

The Olympics should be the absolute pinnacle of your sport. A gold medal at the Olympics should be the ultimate reward. Too many sports it isn't
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Post by: cdbearsfan on August 11, 2016, 05:26:03 PM
I used to think that but have changed my mind. Let all the sports in. I wouldn't mind an extra week or two of Olympics.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: paul_e on August 11, 2016, 05:30:01 PM
I used to think that but have changed my mind. Let all the sports in. I wouldn't mind an extra week or two of Olympics.

I agree, lets use it as a festival to showcase all sports and make it a little longerso that all sports get a decent amount of coverage.  I'd add T20 for a start.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on August 11, 2016, 05:46:09 PM
First ever diving gold and an excellent bronze for Max Whitlock in the PE.

Being a teacher is now an Olympic sport?

No, but running and jumping about in your vest and pants is.

It was indeed an excellent bronze. The commentators here decided it as the Olympics best ever Men’s Individual All-around Gymnastics with all winners finishing with over 90 points.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 11, 2016, 05:53:44 PM
I used to think that but have changed my mind. Let all the sports in. I wouldn't mind an extra week or two of Olympics.

I agree, lets use it as a festival to showcase all sports and make it a little longerso that all sports get a decent amount of coverage.  I'd add T20 for a start.

Twenty20 should be the first sport added. It would be a wonderful spectacle and add hundreds of millions of extra fans in a very short space of time.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: cheltenhamlion on August 11, 2016, 06:03:22 PM
Rugby 7's concludes later doesn't it? Escaping work shortly so wouldn't mind watching that. And does the indoor cycling start today?
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: PGW on August 11, 2016, 06:09:23 PM
7's has started GB v SA 19:00
Cycling starts at 20:00
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: cheltenhamlion on August 11, 2016, 06:11:49 PM
Medal matches are tonight in the rugby though?
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: PGW on August 11, 2016, 06:20:04 PM
18:30
Medal matches are tonight in the rugby though?
Fiji v Japan followed by GB v SA

Bronze Medal match 22:30 followed by Gold Medal match
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 11, 2016, 06:21:30 PM
Sounds like a decent night's sport. Couple of Pakistan wickets followed by half a dozen GB golds, please.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: PGW on August 11, 2016, 06:29:19 PM
Murray a set up against an Italian, 3-2 to italy in 2nd going with serve.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: PGW on August 11, 2016, 06:39:33 PM
Murray 5-2 down in 2nd
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: cheltenhamlion on August 11, 2016, 06:42:08 PM
Just making it interesting! I hope Konta gets a medal. A massive plus for "birds" tennis if so.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: PGW on August 11, 2016, 06:44:24 PM
6-1, 2-6 3rd set decider.

Konta on later
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on August 11, 2016, 06:50:31 PM
Fucking dancing horses. Absolutely ridiculous. Fuck off you posh fuckers!!!

Worst sport ever.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: dave shelley on August 11, 2016, 06:56:29 PM
I don't like it either but, respect for the training.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 11, 2016, 07:17:34 PM
Got a feeling its gonna be last minute heartbreak in the rugby
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 11, 2016, 07:22:02 PM
Maybe not, fantastic effort!!
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 11, 2016, 07:23:23 PM
Fiji are a different gravy in this form of Rugby though. Gonna be extremely difficult in the final
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 11, 2016, 07:25:28 PM
Murray going out by the looks of things
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 11, 2016, 07:27:53 PM
Could do with some Gold's, been all Silver today
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: paul_e on August 11, 2016, 07:35:56 PM
Did realyy well in the 7s.  I can't help but feel that Dan Norton should be changing into some running shoes and going over to the athletics stadium after today, he's rapid.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 11, 2016, 07:36:48 PM
After losing eight games in a row, Murray has now won the last four to go a break up in the decider. Barmy game this.

Finish it please, Andy.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: paul_e on August 11, 2016, 07:38:29 PM
Murray going out by the looks of things

I wouldn't bet on it, his mental strength and sheer fitness wil lsee him through I reckon.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 11, 2016, 07:39:09 PM
Yeah he's found his fire here. He looked deflated and beat a short while ago. I suppose it's the mark of how great a champion he is
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: PGW on August 11, 2016, 07:43:26 PM
After losing eight games in a row, Murray has now won the last four to go a break up in the decider. Barmy game this.

Finish it please, Andy.
He should do now 5 games on the trot. Hope not the kiss of doom!
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: cheadlevilla on August 11, 2016, 07:48:50 PM
Watching athletes with fight and pride and passion.....   All missing at VP!!!!!
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: four fornicholl on August 11, 2016, 07:57:52 PM
Much as I love watching live sport the coverage from the bbc seems a little disjointed to me, I just cant seem to keep up, ie. keep missing things.
I may be missing it but are they not doing a programme at a decent time with all the condensed highlights?
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: cdward on August 11, 2016, 08:02:49 PM
They talked about the GB 7s rugby team showing the benefits of the psychological training they received. Can we book the Villa players in for some sessions.
Watching a team hold their nerve to come from behind, hold on and defend, and then see out the win.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: four fornicholl on August 11, 2016, 08:10:21 PM
How low have the bbc sunk!!!!!!!!!

They've just allowed Jason Kenny to say the word ARSE on a recorded clip! Disgraceful, I'm writing to Points Of View!
Disgraced, NW England.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 11, 2016, 08:14:12 PM
Our sprint team just set the Olympic record in the heat!

Fantastic effort. They were considered as around 4th favourites
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: PGW on August 11, 2016, 08:30:44 PM
Konta 4-1 down to Kerber from Germany...make that 5-1
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: PGW on August 11, 2016, 09:04:08 PM
Konta losing 1-6, 2-4
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: four fornicholl on August 11, 2016, 09:08:41 PM
World record :D :D
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Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 11, 2016, 09:09:04 PM
That was impressive
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: paul_e on August 11, 2016, 09:09:26 PM
Our sprint team just set the Olympic record in the heat!

Fantastic effort. They were considered as around 4th favourites

and then the Ladies add a world record and looked stunningly good.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 11, 2016, 09:09:52 PM
Sexist.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: PGW on August 11, 2016, 09:11:01 PM
Girls impressed there in team pursuit setting a world record in qualification 4.13.260 and this with 2 teams...USA & Canada to go
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: PGW on August 11, 2016, 09:13:58 PM
Konta out
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 11, 2016, 09:39:03 PM
NZ have got their act together in the team sprint.

Will be a big ask to beat them in the final
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 11, 2016, 09:40:03 PM
Lets hope its not Silver in the Sprint final and Silver in the Rugby
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: paul_e on August 11, 2016, 09:59:26 PM
Dutch crash out in the men's pursuit, not hurt which is good but probably a delay whilst they do repairs to the track.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 11, 2016, 10:05:01 PM
Andy Murray has gone from nearly being eliminated from his only remaining event to still being in two events this evening.

A Romanian duo have withdrawn from the Mixed Doubles so Murray and Watson take their place in the draw.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: four fornicholl on August 11, 2016, 10:06:41 PM
NZ have got their act together in the team sprint.

Will be a big ask to beat them in the final
Fk me, for a minute there I thought it said NZ had got his head together.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: PGW on August 11, 2016, 10:26:10 PM
P. McCormack 21yr old in the ring now for GB v a Kazhakstan chappie.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: PGW on August 11, 2016, 10:38:58 PM
P. McCormack 21yr old in the ring now for GB v a Kazhakstan chappie.
He won...looks decent
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Exeter 77 on August 11, 2016, 10:39:28 PM
P. McCormack 21yr old in the ring now for GB v a Kazhakstan chappie.
And he wins on a split decision.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 11, 2016, 10:40:35 PM
Britain racing for gold on BBC One next.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: paul_e on August 11, 2016, 10:42:24 PM
Britain racing for gold on BBC One next.

Followed 10-15minutes later with the gold medal match in the 7s, this is a bad evening to be wanting an early night.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: four fornicholl on August 11, 2016, 10:43:42 PM
Cabooom
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 11, 2016, 10:43:51 PM
Boom.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Exeter 77 on August 11, 2016, 10:44:00 PM
Team sprint gold!
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 11, 2016, 10:44:09 PM
GOLD
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: paul_e on August 11, 2016, 10:44:25 PM
Phenomenal 2nd lap from Kenny.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: paul_e on August 11, 2016, 10:51:54 PM
I think it highlights how good our semi-final was to see Cecil Africa destroying Japan, he was utterly anonymous in our game because Tom Mitchell owned him.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: paul_e on August 11, 2016, 10:59:22 PM
SA have won comfortably but there's something a bit c**t-y about running in an extra try in overtime after the opposition have had a sending off and you're already 23 points up.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: PGW on August 11, 2016, 11:01:38 PM
Josh Kelly boxing in 3 bouts time.....hopefully be able to get 7's out the way first.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 11, 2016, 11:10:40 PM
Fiji looking like running away with this.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on August 11, 2016, 11:12:32 PM
Looks like could be embarrassing. Fiji look ace.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: paul_e on August 11, 2016, 11:14:19 PM
2nd try looked like a forward pass to me.

Either way we need to put them on the floor in the tackle, can't let them offload like this.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on August 11, 2016, 11:14:22 PM
Disappointing...I stayed up for this.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on August 11, 2016, 11:15:24 PM
That was just shocking.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: paul_e on August 11, 2016, 11:16:17 PM
That's piss poor from the restart, GB heads have gone a little here because we can't get out of our own half.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on August 11, 2016, 11:17:40 PM
Fiji are doing to GB what every team does to Villa. Embarrass us.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: PGW on August 11, 2016, 11:18:37 PM
Josh Kelly fighting now
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: paul_e on August 11, 2016, 11:19:18 PM
Ah well, Silver is better than I expected, everyone had this down as a Fiji vs NZ final so we've done well but it was a game too far.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 11, 2016, 11:27:18 PM
The comeback is on!
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: paul_e on August 11, 2016, 11:29:07 PM
Glad they scored, they didn't deserve to be whitewashed.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: PGW on August 11, 2016, 11:32:40 PM
Kelly beaten by a unanimous decision....Yellusinov superb...World no.1
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 11, 2016, 11:33:51 PM
Thoroughly deserved drubbing in the final. Still, another medal added and they surpassed expectations.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: paul_e on August 11, 2016, 11:36:14 PM
A very good silver in the rugby even if the final was a bit of a battering.

What that does show you is that having the kick off against the wind can be a huge disadvantage because if you concede early against an aggressive side they can just kick long from the restarts and pin you in your own half.  I think they'd have outclassed us either way but reverse the start and I reckon you'd have had a much closer game.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: TopDeck113 on August 11, 2016, 11:47:28 PM
I think it would be churlish to not to be just a little pleased for Fiji. The first medal in the nation's history, in a form of the sport that they are able to teach the rest of the world something about. 
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 11, 2016, 11:51:16 PM
Indeed. Britain exceeded expectations to reach the Gold Medal match and may do better in future, I assume now it's an Olympic sport it will receive more Lottery funding?

Fiji were fantastic. They must have been under immense pressure coming from a country that had never achieved a single medal before, but they didn't show it. Fair play to them.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 11, 2016, 11:57:02 PM
Is there anything else decent to come tonight?
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: PGW on August 12, 2016, 12:02:05 AM
Indeed. Britain exceeded expectations to reach the Gold Medal match and may do better in future, I assume now it's an Olympic sport it will receive more Lottery funding?

Fiji were fantastic. They must have been under immense pressure coming from a country that had never achieved a single medal before, but they didn't show it. Fair play to them.
Apparently it's guaranteed a place in the next olympics but negotiations are to take place about further games so not cut and dried. I would have thought the success of this
tournament should help sway the decision.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Dave Cooper please on August 12, 2016, 12:04:44 AM
Is there anything else decent to come tonight?

Cycling team pursuit later I think.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 12, 2016, 12:06:27 AM
Is there anything else decent to come tonight?

Cycling team pursuit later I think.

I think the cycling is done for the day
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Dave Cooper please on August 12, 2016, 12:07:53 AM
Oh yes, so it is, just looked, swimming, badminton and hockey coming up. Wouldn't bother if I wasn't on a night shift, but I am so I will.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: paul_e on August 12, 2016, 12:52:17 AM
Indeed. Britain exceeded expectations to reach the Gold Medal match and may do better in future, I assume now it's an Olympic sport it will receive more Lottery funding?

Fiji were fantastic. They must have been under immense pressure coming from a country that had never achieved a single medal before, but they didn't show it. Fair play to them.
Apparently it's guaranteed a place in the next olympics but negotiations are to take place about further games so not cut and dried. I would have thought the success of this
tournament should help sway the decision.

I think it would be a shocking decision to drop it now after it's been such a good tournament.  Hopefully a lot more countries will show an interest as well because it's actually fairly easy to start up with and it's been around long enough that you've got plenty of decent coaches who'd be happy to get a country started off in the game.  If it does take off it will only be good for the 15 a side format if only for the interest level it generates.

I'd like T20 in (as mentioned earlier) for the same reason, get more countries involved in the bite sized versions and people who really take to it will explore the other formats and expand the sports.  I'd honestly love to see one or both start to get the sort of partcipation football has because I think they're both better sports for anyone other than ultra casual fans.

Back to the funding I think in the UK 7s is starting to become something the clubs are interested in as well (as a way to generate extra stadium income given they only have 14 guaranteed home games a season) there's been fairly high profile 7s tournaments in the summer for a couple of years now so i'm not sure it needs any more.
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Post by: rob_bridge on August 12, 2016, 08:55:03 AM
7s were brilliant.

Well done Fiji - genuinely don't mind GB finishing 2nd in that event.
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Post by: ACVilla on August 12, 2016, 09:37:02 AM
Great and unexpected win for the cyclists, including Philip Hindes, an excuse to show this toe curling interview after they won in 2012. You can see Jason Kenny and Sir Chris Hoy thinking "nooooooo, don't say that":

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Post by: PGW on August 12, 2016, 12:10:57 PM
A few times to look out for today if stuck at work:
Jessica Ennis-Hill starts Heptathlon she should be on at 13:50
Jo Pavey in 10000m final at 15:10
Andy Murray singles 16:00
Glover & Stanning Womens pairs rowing final 13:30
Some skeet shooting at 13:00
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Post by: Comrade Blitz on August 12, 2016, 12:36:15 PM
"I am not for doping and I have never used it." - Yulia Efimova

Well, except for the steroids and the meldonium.
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Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 12, 2016, 02:32:22 PM
Should be winning 2 golds in the next hour or so in the rowing
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Post by: PGW on August 12, 2016, 02:53:39 PM
Ireland just won silver in Mens double rowing....o'Donovan brothers
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Post by: dave shelley on August 12, 2016, 03:02:35 PM
Ireland just won silver in Mens double rowing....o'Donovan brothers

That's a great achievement for those lads.  Two likable, laid back individuals who, like all serious athletes that show a happy-go-lucky exterior; hide a steely determination.  Great for Ireland, great for their hometown of Skibbereen.  A beautiful spot BTW.  I'm delighted for them.
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Post by: PGW on August 12, 2016, 03:03:13 PM
Jess won the 100m hurdles with fastest time in the final heat 12.84 sec

A poor Latvian girl not so lucky, she was put in first heat because officials took her shot put length 13.48 or something like that
as her 100m hurdle time which meant she had to run with the duffers, she won the heat but about.4 of a second below her average time.
She should have been running with Jess i think.
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Post by: PGW on August 12, 2016, 03:05:34 PM
Womens Pair - Glover & Stanning about to start
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Post by: PGW on August 12, 2016, 03:13:30 PM
Womens Pair - Glover & Stanning about to start

Gold
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Post by: PGW on August 12, 2016, 03:15:48 PM
Jo Pavey has started in womens 10000m as well
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Post by: PGW on August 12, 2016, 03:26:40 PM
Coxless 4's starting now
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Post by: PGW on August 12, 2016, 03:33:10 PM
Coxless 4's starting now

Gold
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Post by: PGW on August 12, 2016, 03:48:22 PM
Up to 4th in the Medals table after these 2 Golds
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Post by: cdbearsfan on August 12, 2016, 03:50:20 PM
Above the Convicts. Stay there please (or move up to third, if I'm being greedy).
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: rob_bridge on August 12, 2016, 04:05:57 PM
"I am not for doping and I have never used it." - Yulia Efimova

Well, except for the steroids and the meldonium.

Ha ha
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Post by: rob_bridge on August 12, 2016, 04:06:51 PM
Brilliant rowing 2 Brit Golds and Silver for Ireland.

Brilliant
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Post by: PGW on August 12, 2016, 05:01:28 PM
Andy Murray under way 2-0 up in 1st set. Yank losing his rag already
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Post by: Exeter 77 on August 12, 2016, 05:06:15 PM
Just seen the time for the world record for women's 10000m. That is barely believable!
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Post by: PGW on August 12, 2016, 05:13:21 PM
Just seen the time for the world record for women's 10000m. That is barely believable!
29:17:45 beat the old one 29:31:78...well smashed it. I think it said on commentary that it was only the 2nd time she had run the distance in competition!!!
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Post by: PGW on August 12, 2016, 05:17:59 PM
Katie Johnson - Thompson doing brilliant in the heptathlon high jump....just gone clear at 1.95.
Jess went out at 1.92
Only 2 girls left in i think, A Belgian & KJT...the belgian gone clear as well.
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Post by: PGW on August 12, 2016, 05:21:21 PM
Belgian gone clear at 1.98

Murray won 1st set 6-0

KJT failed first attempt
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Post by: PGW on August 12, 2016, 05:24:25 PM
KJT gone over at 2nd attempt ...personal...& British record in heptathlon
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Post by: PGW on August 12, 2016, 05:47:49 PM
Typical Murray 6-0, 2-4
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Post by: cdbearsfan on August 12, 2016, 05:57:10 PM
Murray has Villad the second set.
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Post by: PGW on August 12, 2016, 06:31:25 PM
Murray in danger now, just been broken in final set.
Johnson serving for 5-3
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Post by: PGW on August 12, 2016, 06:34:33 PM
Murray broke back 4-4
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Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 12, 2016, 07:10:41 PM
Just seen the time for the world record for women's 10000m. That is barely believable!

The old record was set by someone who there were extremely high legality suspicions about.
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Post by: dave shelley on August 12, 2016, 07:33:13 PM
Murray through.

Anyone watching the womens' fooball?  Sweden v USA.  5 mins from the end of extra time, USA have possible winner ruled out for a foul, rightly in my opinion.  Sweden go up the other end and the ball gets crossed in to the centre forward in an onside position but then strays into an off-side position.  The US defender makes a pigs ear of clearing the ball and it spins to the Swedish player who says thank you very much and scores a perfectly legal goal only for the stupid lineswoman to flag it for offside.

Now gone to penalties.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on August 12, 2016, 07:37:09 PM
Fucking dressage again!!!

It's a red button thing surely, not prime time?

It's not a sport. Impressive control of the horse, but it's posh wanker bollocks. Fuck it off prime time. So boring as well. Even the commentators sound bored.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 12, 2016, 07:38:25 PM
Fucking dressage again!!!

It's a red button thing surely, not prime time?

It's not a sport. Impressive control of the horse, but it's posh wanker bollocks. Fuck it off prime time. So boring as well. Even the commentators sound bored.

I think they are only showing it because the British posho is pretty much nailed on for a gold medal
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Post by: dave shelley on August 12, 2016, 07:44:54 PM
USA out on penalties to Sweden.  Bit of an upset there.
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Post by: cdbearsfan on August 12, 2016, 07:46:03 PM
I think that's the first time the US Ladies have ever failed to win gold in sahker.
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Post by: cdbearsfan on August 12, 2016, 08:15:43 PM
Silver medal for Britain in the team stripeless zebra taunting. Also in with a chance of a medal in the trampolining.
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Post by: cdbearsfan on August 12, 2016, 08:19:56 PM
Bryony Page has a medal in the trampolining. Crying her eyes out! I didn't even know this was in the Olympics!
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Post by: cdbearsfan on August 12, 2016, 08:21:44 PM
Finished with a silver medal.
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Post by: SashasGrandad on August 12, 2016, 08:25:36 PM
Katie Johnson - Thompson doing brilliant in the heptathlon high jump....just gone clear at 1.95.
Jess went out at 1.92
Only 2 girls left in i think, A Belgian & KJT...the belgian gone clear as well.

The Belgian was lucky not be DQ in hurdles. Wrong card issued for the False start. Given a Yellow conduct card, should have been Yellow and Black. As it was 2nd FS she could have been DQ. Wrong interpretation of IAAF rule 162.8
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Post by: Villan For Life on August 12, 2016, 09:56:51 PM
Team GB through to the final with a world record time in the cycling team pursuit. Hopefully they can carry that through to the final, I'd like to see Wiggins get another gold.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 12, 2016, 10:03:04 PM
Team GB through to the final with a world record time in the cycling team pursuit. Hopefully they can carry that through to the final, I'd like to see Wiggins get another gold.

Unless they fall off they should win comfortably.
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Post by: paul_e on August 12, 2016, 10:05:34 PM
and then Kenny and Skinner looked strong in the individual races as well, cycling looks like it's going to be another good source of medals this year and heptathlon looks good again.  Add the rowing and it just shows success breeds success.
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Post by: Villan For Life on August 12, 2016, 10:10:47 PM
and then Kenny and Skinner looked strong in the individual races as well, cycling looks like it's going to be another good source of medals this year and heptathlon looks good again.  Add the rowing and it just shows success breeds success.

I'm enjoying watching sports that I wouldn't usually watch, like Judo and Trampolining. It's a change from my usual diet of football, cricket and rugby.
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Post by: paul_e on August 12, 2016, 10:16:45 PM
and then Kenny and Skinner looked strong in the individual races as well, cycling looks like it's going to be another good source of medals this year and heptathlon looks good again.  Add the rowing and it just shows success breeds success.

I'm enjoying watching sports that I wouldn't usually watch, like Judo and Trampolining. It's a change from my usual diet of football, cricket and rugby.

Yeah that's why I'd love them to add things like cricket but also extend it out to 3 or 4 weeks so a lot more of the 'niche' sports can get prime time coverage.  The gymnastics has been superb and we've watched archery, table tennis and badminton (me and the kids). I wish we'd had time to catch things like the judo which has always fallen behind something else.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: PGW on August 12, 2016, 10:44:22 PM
Murray/Watson lost 1st set 6-4 to Indian pair in Mixed doubles qtr Final
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Post by: four fornicholl on August 12, 2016, 11:03:25 PM
SIR BRADLEY WIGGINS.
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Post by: dave shelley on August 12, 2016, 11:05:55 PM
Fabulous race.  Credit to those lads.  The Aussies fairly made them work for it.
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Post by: TopDeck113 on August 12, 2016, 11:09:30 PM
Legend.
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Post by: paul_e on August 12, 2016, 11:09:55 PM
Absolutely brilliant, to be put under that pressure and have the confidence to stick to the plan and break the world record for the 2nd time in a matter of hours takes immense mental strength.  I hope Ed Clancy, Stephen Burke and Owain Doull get the credit they deserve as well.  Clancy has been the backbone of the team pursuit winning 3 straight golds and deserves huge respect.
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Post by: Risso on August 12, 2016, 11:23:49 PM
How exciting was that?!  What a finish, 0.7 seconds behind, then bam, see you later.  Brilliant.
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Post by: PGW on August 12, 2016, 11:24:00 PM
Up to 3rd in medal table as well.
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Post by: four fornicholl on August 12, 2016, 11:31:00 PM
Got bored with the Olympics and started channel hopping, Fish Called Wanda on ITV, CLASS!!
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 13, 2016, 01:20:26 AM
Poor evening for KJT and JEH in the shot put. The Belgian girl must be favourite for gold now.
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Post by: cdbearsfan on August 13, 2016, 02:00:17 AM
Rutherford in trouble. Two no jumps. One left to save himself and get in the Final. Maybe he's just remembered he was once involved with Villa.
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Post by: Risso on August 13, 2016, 07:07:43 AM
Poor evening for KJT and JEH in the shot put. The Belgian girl must be favourite for gold now.

Not sure she is. Poor 800m runner apparently.
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Post by: Ron Manager on August 13, 2016, 07:58:04 AM
Morning.Its probably me but the obvious lack of support for these games from the Brazilian public means a financial disaster for the country. I am shocked how few are there.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 13, 2016, 10:46:57 AM
Poor evening for KJT and JEH in the shot put. The Belgian girl must be favourite for gold now.

Not sure she is. Poor 800m runner apparently.

That sounds promising then. I think Ennis-Hill is favourite again then, I think David O'Leary had a word for people like me!
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Post by: Pete3206 on August 13, 2016, 11:02:00 AM
Morning.Its probably me but the obvious lack of support for these games from the Brazilian public means a financial disaster for the country. I am shocked how few are there.

High poverty, recession and general apathy over non traditional sports wouldn't help matters. The thousands of tickets that 'disappear' into tout's hand probably have no market and the corporate types may have been put off by the Zika virus scare.
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Post by: Lastfootstamper on August 13, 2016, 11:10:30 AM
Morning.Its probably me but the obvious lack of support for these games from the Brazilian public means a financial disaster for the country. I am shocked how few are there.

High poverty, recession and general apathy over non traditional sports wouldn't help matters. The thousands of tickets that 'disappear' into tout's hand probably have no market and the corporate types may have been put off by the Zika virus scare.

On Today the other morning, during the Olympics report, the question was raised over their suitability to host the games, with the IOC seemingly still having to overcome problems on a daily basis. It was stated that when the games were awarded, Brazil was on the verge of breaking into the wealthiest top five countries, in terms of gdp.

It now sits 74th in that list.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Dave Cooper please on August 13, 2016, 01:25:58 PM
"I am not for doping and I have never used it." - Yulia Efimova

Well, except for the steroids and the meldonium.

What's wrong with Meldonium?
Surely having really white pumps isn't performance enhancing?
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: ACVilla on August 13, 2016, 06:01:14 PM
Morning.Its probably me but the obvious lack of support for these games from the Brazilian public means a financial disaster for the country. I am shocked how few are there.
They had a huge amount to live up to after Beijing and London but it's not going to be looked upon as a classic games regardless of what happens on the track.

It's such a shame but the Olympic venues are sure to end up as the whitest of white elephants.

I'm fairly sure Tokyo in 2020 will be different.
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Post by: four fornicholl on August 13, 2016, 07:06:16 PM
Can we please fk off the tennis
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Post by: ACVilla on August 13, 2016, 07:12:35 PM
Can we please fk off the tennis
Put on red button, GB in the badminton.
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Post by: PGW on August 13, 2016, 09:34:48 PM
What a performance from the girls there, a new World record time to go with their Gold.

Del Potro to play Murray for Tennis Gold.
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Post by: paul_e on August 13, 2016, 09:43:38 PM
another brilliant gold in and world record in the cycling for the women in the team pursuit.  Trott becomes the first british woman to get 3 olympic golds, at 24.  I think it's now pretty clear that we have the best track coaching team in the world by a long way.

and there's a silver for Becky James in the keirin as well, which is a massive achievement for her.
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Post by: Whiney MacWhineface on August 13, 2016, 09:50:20 PM
It helps that we do so well in it, but I've found the whole cycling circus very exciting, whoever's in it.
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Post by: paul_e on August 13, 2016, 10:05:46 PM
The track cycling is brilliant.  I love the Keirin and the scratch race in the omnium is about the most bonkers thing in the entire olympics, but in a brilliantly watchable way.
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Post by: andyh on August 13, 2016, 10:47:05 PM
The cycling is just superb, fantastic, brilliant.
But, please........

Stop showing FUCKING TENNIS AND GOLF.

I love both sports, but they don't need to be shown wher there is so much other quality sport to watch.
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Post by: paul_e on August 13, 2016, 11:09:55 PM
I agree but a brit leading in the golf and a brit into the gold medal match of the tennis means they're going to get a lot of airtime.
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Post by: paul_e on August 13, 2016, 11:25:39 PM
Women's hockey top the group with 5 wins from 5.


They got bronze last time round and should be in with a good chance of a medal again.
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Post by: cdbearsfan on August 14, 2016, 01:59:06 AM
Mo wins! First British athlete to win three Olympic golds.
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Post by: Karlos96 on August 14, 2016, 01:59:34 AM
Fantastic Mo Farah what an achievement.
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Post by: dave shelley on August 14, 2016, 02:01:29 AM
Got tripped, got up and still won.  What a superb athlete.
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Post by: cdbearsfan on August 14, 2016, 02:23:41 AM
Bronze for the Villa reject.
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Post by: paul_e on August 14, 2016, 02:49:31 AM
I feel for Rutherford there, for his fifth jump he clearly changed the run up because thry fouled the fourth so to reverse that is a bit galling.
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Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 14, 2016, 07:57:28 AM
What an incredible performer Mo Farah is. Will surely win gold in the 5k now.

Disappointing night for Ennis and Rutherford
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Post by: ACVilla on August 14, 2016, 10:49:43 AM
Looks as if it's the end of the road for Ennis, it's a shame she couldn't get gold but the Belgian put in an outrageous performance. Hopefully Ennis can now pass on some tips to help KJT's javelin because it doesn't hapf need it.

Mo is now in legend status.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 14, 2016, 10:54:04 AM
Looks as if it's the end of the road for Ennis, it's a shame she couldn't get gold but the Belgian put in an outrageous performance. Hopefully Ennis can now pass on some tips to help KJT's javelin because it doesn't hapf need it.

Mo is now in legend status.

Yeah. It's genuinely incredible what he's done the last 5 years or so.
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Post by: Brend'Watkins on August 14, 2016, 11:39:48 AM
Don't you just love Mo Farah. What an athlete and personality.
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Post by: olaftab on August 14, 2016, 11:41:47 AM
Well done Jessica and Mo. We are proud, humble and grateful.
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Post by: rob_bridge on August 14, 2016, 01:25:37 PM
Slight shame for Jess - great role model.

For everyone
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Post by: paul_e on August 14, 2016, 01:27:28 PM
Looks as if it's the end of the road for Ennis, it's a shame she couldn't get gold but the Belgian put in an outrageous performance. Hopefully Ennis can now pass on some tips to help KJT's javelin because it doesn't hapf need it.

Mo is now in legend status.

The odd thing in the heptathlon is that KJT matched or bettered the belgian in 5 events and finished 6th because she can't throw, if someone can train her to get 14.50+ in the shot and 45+ in the javelin she'll be unstoppable.

Mo was fantastic, he makes it looks so effortless.

Whilst we're still discussing last night Peaty's split time in the relay was ridiculous, head and shoulders above anyone else in that leg and, unfortunately, a class above the rest of the GB team.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 14, 2016, 01:37:53 PM
Looks as if it's the end of the road for Ennis, it's a shame she couldn't get gold but the Belgian put in an outrageous performance. Hopefully Ennis can now pass on some tips to help KJT's javelin because it doesn't hapf need it.

Mo is now in legend status.

The odd thing in the heptathlon is that KJT matched or bettered the belgian in 5 events and finished 6th because she can't throw, if someone can train her to get 14.50+ in the shot and 45+ in the javelin she'll be unstoppable.

Mo was fantastic, he makes it looks so effortless.

Whilst we're still discussing last night Peaty's split time in the relay was ridiculous, head and shoulders above anyone else in that leg and, unfortunately, a class above the rest of the GB team.

Watching on Friday night, KJT during the shotput had the demeanour of a broken women, which was strange because she was leading after the high jump. It was almost as if she had resigned herself to throwing poorly
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: paul_e on August 14, 2016, 01:48:48 PM
Looks as if it's the end of the road for Ennis, it's a shame she couldn't get gold but the Belgian put in an outrageous performance. Hopefully Ennis can now pass on some tips to help KJT's javelin because it doesn't hapf need it.

Mo is now in legend status.

The odd thing in the heptathlon is that KJT matched or bettered the belgian in 5 events and finished 6th because she can't throw, if someone can train her to get 14.50+ in the shot and 45+ in the javelin she'll be unstoppable.

Mo was fantastic, he makes it looks so effortless.

Whilst we're still discussing last night Peaty's split time in the relay was ridiculous, head and shoulders above anyone else in that leg and, unfortunately, a class above the rest of the GB team.

Watching on Friday night, KJT during the shotput had the demeanour of a broken women, which was strange because she was leading after the high jump. It was almost as if she had resigned herself to throwing poorly

Yep, she was worse in the Javelin, she'd clearly decided she couldn't throw enough to still be in with a chance.  She needs to work on technique and strength but more importantly she needs the belief that the throwing events aren't going to let her down so that, if the first one isn't great, she doesn't throw in the towel.
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Post by: four fornicholl on August 14, 2016, 01:51:44 PM
Guaranteed gold tonight, Kenny v Skinner, 21.04. Whos favourite?
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Ron Manager on August 14, 2016, 01:52:13 PM
I don't think she is going to master either the shot or the javelin which is a great pity. Whether she could develop her long jumping to world class standards is the question she may think about on her return home.
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Post by: spangley1812 on August 14, 2016, 01:52:28 PM
Guaranteed gold tonight, Kenny v Skinner, 21.04. Whos favourite?

Kenny
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Post by: spangley1812 on August 14, 2016, 01:54:38 PM
I don't think she is going to master either the shot or the javelin which is a great pity. Whether she could develop her long jumping to world class standards is the question she may think about on her return home.

She needs to get a specialist coach for the Shot and the Javelin like Jess did i.e Mick Hill
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Ron Manager on August 14, 2016, 01:56:35 PM
I don't think she is going to master either the shot or the javelin which is a great pity. Whether she could develop her long jumping to world class standards is the question she may think about on her return home.

She needs to get a specialist coach for the Shot and the Javelin like Jess did i.e Mick Hill

Good point. She certainly needs to do something and soon.
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Post by: paul_e on August 14, 2016, 02:46:24 PM
Yep, if KJT can get some proper specialised coaching int he throwing I think she can still become the world class heptathlete she looked like being as an 18-19 year old, don't forget she's still only 23 so time is on her side.

If you look at her points split it's a pretty ridiculous disparity between the running/jumping an throwing.

hurdles - 1053
high jump - 1211
shot - 640
200 - 1053
long jump - 1010
javelin - 598
800 - 958

high jump, hurdles, 200 and long jump are all world record standard or better and she's got more in her in the last 2 I can easily see both of those getting her up around 1100-1150 points.  If she can get the throwing up to 700-750 she'll be pushing on 7000 points, that's what makes it so frustrating.  I hope Jess has a good chat with her about coaching and mental strength.
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Post by: cdbearsfan on August 14, 2016, 04:36:41 PM
Is there not an event she could enter that just involves running and jumping but no throwing?

Ah, I know! Tell her to give Heptathlon up and do hurdles instead.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Ron Manager on August 14, 2016, 04:51:21 PM
You would think the last event in any Olympics would be the mens 100 metre final which has worldwide fame,but it isn't

It is in fact in 2016, the mens basketball. Why?
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: paul_e on August 14, 2016, 04:52:30 PM
I make it that we have 5 more medals in the bag right now, silver and gold in the sprint cycling, 1 in the tennis, 1 in the golf and the sailing we have a procession for an already sealed gold which wil ltake us to 35.  Given the target they set was 48 I think we're looking good to do at least that, probably won't match London but this is still another incredibly impresses games for team GB.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: spangley1812 on August 14, 2016, 05:09:12 PM
We have a good chance of a medal/medals in the Men's Gymnastics tonight as well

The medal total is looking good but the number of Golds we have won is not as many as at the same stage of the London Olympics
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: ACVilla on August 14, 2016, 05:33:36 PM
You would think the last event in any Olympics would be the mens 100 metre final which has worldwide fame,but it isn't

It is in fact in 2016, the mens basketball. Why?
It would be highly impractical to hold the relays before as people who double up in both events would pull out/not give 100% in these relays in order to maximise their chances in the individual races.

I also think the relays are a much better spectacle and a great way to finish the athletics even when our men inevitably drop the baton.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Exeter 77 on August 14, 2016, 05:36:58 PM
I think there is a pretty much guaranteed medal in individual dressage tomorrow as well.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 14, 2016, 05:38:11 PM
I think there is a pretty much guaranteed medal in individual dressage tomorrow as well.

Be a huge shock if its not gold
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: spangley1812 on August 14, 2016, 05:44:41 PM
Isn't Cavendish going in the cycling tonight as well
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: ACVilla on August 14, 2016, 05:45:16 PM
I think there is a pretty much guaranteed medal in individual dressage tomorrow as well.
I can get excited about pretty much every olympic sport.
Dressage???
Nah.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: spangley1812 on August 14, 2016, 05:46:28 PM
Rose and Stenson tied on -15 after 12 holes
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Ron Manager on August 14, 2016, 05:48:53 PM
I think so. Bolt will be burning up the track at 2.30AM and the drug cheat Gatlin will be trailing in his wake....hopefully.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: ACVilla on August 14, 2016, 05:51:30 PM
I fear that may not be the case.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: spangley1812 on August 14, 2016, 05:57:09 PM
I fear that may not be the case.

Really ??? If that does happen Social Media may go into meltdown
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Exeter 77 on August 14, 2016, 05:57:53 PM
I think there is a pretty much guaranteed medal in individual dressage tomorrow as well.
I can get excited about pretty much every olympic sport.
Dressage???
Nah.
Much how I feel about it.  Probably because I don't understand how it us scored.  Someone who does tried to explain it to me and I could feel myself glazing over so I must have had the look I've often seen when explaining the offside laws in football and rugby union.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: ACVilla on August 14, 2016, 06:02:35 PM
I fear that may not be the case.

Really ??? If that does happen Social Media may go into meltdown
The Olympic movement should hang their collective heads in shame if it does happen but I really think it may.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Rudy65 on August 14, 2016, 06:06:56 PM
I think there is a pretty much guaranteed medal in individual dressage tomorrow as well.
I can get excited about pretty much every olympic sport.
Dressage???
Nah.

Looks a bit cruel to me as well
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: paul_e on August 14, 2016, 06:11:03 PM
Isn't Cavendish going in the cycling tonight as well

Yeah, in the omnium, you'd expect him to get a medal given he's probably the greatest sprint cyclist of all time but over 6 events there's so many things to consider.

In my list I tried to only include medals that were guaranteed, only the golf was a guess but even at the time Rose would've had to have a remarkable breakdown to not get a medal and now it would be a case of one of the most alarming collapses in sporting history so I'm going to stick with it.  I'm going to up it to a gold or silver in fact, Rose is playing beautifully but so is Stenson.  Kuchar has been superb today to get to 3rd but it's just too big an ask I think.

All the others already have medals but are awaiting confirmation, it's 2 definite golds a definite silver and then 1 more that could be either.

I think there is a pretty much guaranteed medal in individual dressage tomorrow as well.

If you get into events where we look good for a gold then you have Cavendish as above, Trott in the Women's omnium, Dujardin in the dressage, Mo in the 5k, Adams in the womens boxing and Jones in the taekwondo all have a very strong chance.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: olaftab on August 14, 2016, 06:13:13 PM
I think there is a pretty much guaranteed medal in individual dressage tomorrow as well.
I can get excited about pretty much every olympic sport.
Dressage???
Nah.

Looks a bit cruel to me as well
I firmly believe it's torture for the poor horses but no one seems to agree😟
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 14, 2016, 06:22:41 PM
Whitlock guaranteed a medal in the floor exercise. Leading with 2 to go
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 14, 2016, 06:23:15 PM
Odds on favourite up now
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: paul_e on August 14, 2016, 06:23:19 PM
Rose drops a shot behind with 5 to go.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 14, 2016, 06:23:55 PM
Probably blowing it!
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 14, 2016, 06:24:24 PM
At least a silver for Whitlock now
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: paul_e on August 14, 2016, 06:26:11 PM
Fair play to Whitlock, has a good chance for another on the pommel horse later as well.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 14, 2016, 06:27:38 PM
This is gonna be gold!
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 14, 2016, 06:28:22 PM
Fair play to Whitlock, has a good chance for another on the pommel horse later as well.

Odds on favourite for that. Looking like an amazing chance for 2 golds tonight for him
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 14, 2016, 06:31:01 PM
Brilliant from Whitlock!!

His coaches need to focus him now. He's got another final in an hour!
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: ACVilla on August 14, 2016, 06:36:08 PM
Who makes decisions at the BBC nowadays.

Did they really need to cut to BBC1 from BBC 2 when the gold confirmation for Whitlock was imminent. Surely hold it for 10/20/30 seconds. I'd imagine a lot of people missed it.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: spangley1812 on August 14, 2016, 06:36:24 PM
Rose and Stenson tied on -14 after 14

Kouchar on -13 after 17
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 14, 2016, 06:37:42 PM
Who makes decisions at the BBC nowadays.

Did they really need to cut to BBC1 from BBC 2 when the gold confirmation for Whitlock was imminent. Surely hold it for 10/20/30 seconds. I'd imagine a lot of people missed it.

yeah, I thought that. Crazy
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: paul_e on August 14, 2016, 06:37:45 PM
Brilliant win for him, his score put a lot of pressure on the Japanese and American guys and they couldn't hack it.

The pressure in the golf is massive, Stenson drops a shot now so level again after a fantastic par save for Rose.

The important thing is that the last 3 seem to be good to pick up shots and Kuchar is through 2 of them so he might not be as close as it looks right now.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 14, 2016, 06:40:55 PM
I'm not a fan of golf being in the Olympics, but I must say the course looks fantastic
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 14, 2016, 06:44:16 PM
Slight error from Stenson leaving his 2nd to 15 short.

Needs to take advantage here Rose
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 14, 2016, 06:45:11 PM
He has. Fabulous shot.

Did I say I wasn't a fan of golf in the Olympics!?
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: paul_e on August 14, 2016, 06:52:11 PM
I'm really enjoying it, great course, hugely tense final day and a brit right in the mix for the title.

Rose 1 shot up with 3 to go.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 14, 2016, 06:54:57 PM
Kuchar needed the birdie at the last to give himself any realistic hope of gold.

Rose ahead but Stenson is as cool as they come
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 14, 2016, 06:55:49 PM
If Rose and Murray win, added to our guaranteed cycling gold, we could end up above China!
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 14, 2016, 07:01:08 PM
Stenson all but guaranteed a birdie. Rose needs to knock this one close
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 14, 2016, 07:01:43 PM
Poor shot unfortunately
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 14, 2016, 07:04:43 PM
You have got to be joking!!!

How does that not go in??
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 14, 2016, 07:05:18 PM
Looking like Rose and Stenson level going down the 17th
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: paul_e on August 14, 2016, 07:33:46 PM
If Rose and Murray win, added to our guaranteed cycling gold, we could end up above China!

Don't forget Giles Scott in the Finn (sailing) it's pretty much guaranteed if he keeps going as he is in the ninth race, his lead is massive regardless but right now it looks like it's going to widen significantly here.

Got a silver in the men's windsurfing as well.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: paul_e on August 14, 2016, 07:38:56 PM
Looking like Rose and Stenson level going down the 17th

I reckon there's about an inch between them coming up to the third shots on the 18th, this is brilliantly tense.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 14, 2016, 07:40:17 PM
Huge chance for Rose, poor shot from Stenson
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 14, 2016, 07:41:09 PM
Brilliant from Rose!!

Stenson is going to have to hole from 20 feet to force a playoff by the looks of things
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: SamTheMouse on August 14, 2016, 07:41:42 PM
I think this is the first time ever I've found golf even vaguely exciting.

Proper squeaky bum time!
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: paul_e on August 14, 2016, 07:41:52 PM
I reckon that shot wins it, huge pressure on stenson now.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: West Derby Villan on August 14, 2016, 07:42:45 PM
Sorry if it's been mentioned before, but who is the trackside interviewer. His only remit is to get the athlete he interviews after the race to start sobbing. Last night he succeeded with KJT and Mo Farrah.when he interviewed Jess Ennis, she said that she was determined she wasn't "gonna cry in front of the camera". He kept asking her irrelevant and retirement questions until tears welled up in her eyes. I'm sure I heard him shout "result" as the camera panned away.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 14, 2016, 07:47:11 PM
Great stuff from Rose
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: paul_e on August 14, 2016, 07:47:50 PM
Pressure has told on Stenson, Rose's 3rd was the decider it meant Stenson had to go all out for the birdie.

Congratulations to Rose, showed huge character in the last few holes.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: ACVilla on August 14, 2016, 07:50:41 PM
Sorry if it's been mentioned before, but who is the trackside interviewer. His only remit is to get the athlete he interviews after the race to start sobbing. Last night he succeeded with KJT and Mo Farrah.when he interviewed Jess Ennis, she said that she was determined she wasn't "gonna cry in front of the camera". He kept asking her irrelevant and retirement questions until tears welled up in her eyes. I'm sure I heard him shout "result" as the camera panned away.
Phil Jones, he has been doing trackside interviews for years and I for one think he is very good and very knowledgable.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 14, 2016, 07:51:21 PM
This has the real potential to be a 6 gold day for Britain now. That would be incredible. I doubt we did that even in London
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: tomd2103 on August 14, 2016, 07:51:47 PM
Don't you just love Mo Farah. What an athlete and personality.

One of the things I find remarkable about Mo is that in events like the 10,000m he doesn't have the luxury of heats to find his form.  He has one shot at it, yet delivers pretty much every time. 
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: ACVilla on August 14, 2016, 07:52:29 PM
I hope all the golfers that did take part manage to now get out of Brazil alive before bring struck down by this deadly Zika virus.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: four fornicholl on August 14, 2016, 07:53:55 PM
Cant wait for the cycling to start!
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 14, 2016, 07:54:32 PM
I hope all the golfers that did take part manage to now get out of Brazil alive before bring struck down by this deadly Zika virus.

I think that Zika virus specifically targets golfers.

Wasn't many gymnast's, rowers, swimmers who withdrew over it!
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Villa Lew on August 14, 2016, 08:00:56 PM
Fantastic Justin Rose.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 14, 2016, 08:12:57 PM
Another Gold for Whitlock. What an hour he has had!!!
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 14, 2016, 08:13:17 PM
Silver for Smith also
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: spangley1812 on August 14, 2016, 08:13:59 PM
Gold and Silver from the Pommel...........

Go Team GB

Will be above China soon
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Louzie0 on August 14, 2016, 08:15:04 PM
It's only when somebody from another team makes a hash of it that I realise just how difficult this gymnastics is. Max Whitlock's talent is stunning.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: andyh on August 14, 2016, 08:16:25 PM
Max Whitlock, absolutely brilliant.
2 golds in the space on a couple of hours.

Well done, young man.

Now, bring on the cycling !!
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 14, 2016, 08:18:14 PM
Max Whitlock, absolutely brilliant.
2 golds in the space on a couple of hours.

Well done, young man.

2 in a couple of hours, after no gymnastics gold for Britain for 116 years!!!!!
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: ACVilla on August 14, 2016, 08:18:55 PM
I feel very sorry for Smith. He seems such a likeable guy and looks genuinely gutted with silver.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: dave shelley on August 14, 2016, 08:23:06 PM
Wonderful stuff from both gymnasts.  I agree re-Smith, I feel sorry for him but you can't take anything away from Whitlock.

Brilliant from Rose too. 
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Louzie0 on August 14, 2016, 08:25:09 PM
I feel very sorry for Smith. He seems such a likeable guy and looks genuinely gutted with silver.
Yes, so do I. I thought he was going to win the pommel, based on his experience. Apparently he dropped a difficult move from his routine according to the commentator. I think this affected the maximum mark he could score, compared to MW.

He looks close to tears, on the podium.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 14, 2016, 08:27:46 PM
Whilst obviously feel sympathy for Smith, It is great to see a British athlete gutted with silver
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: ACVilla on August 14, 2016, 08:30:26 PM
I feel very sorry for Smith. He seems such a likeable guy and looks genuinely gutted with silver.
Yes, so do I. I thought he was going to win the pommel, based on his experience. Apparently he dropped a difficult move from his routine according to the commentator. I think this affected the maximum mark he could score, compared to MW.

He looks close to tears, on the podium.
He tried the harder routine in the team final and fell off, this must have affected his thinking.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Louzie0 on August 14, 2016, 08:32:10 PM
I feel very sorry for Smith. He seems such a likeable guy and looks genuinely gutted with silver.
Yes, so do I. I thought he was going to win the pommel, based on his experience. Apparently he dropped a difficult move from his routine according to the commentator. I think this affected the maximum mark he could score, compared to MW.

He looks close to tears, on the podium.
He tried the harder routine in the team final and fell off, this must have affected his thinking.
That does sound likely, doesn't it.
His interview about the pressures from detractors has just explained a lot.
Why talk down a talented athlete? Incredible to attack someone personally, whether you rate them or not.


Meant to say, excellent from Justin Rose as well!
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Dante Lavelli on August 14, 2016, 08:32:15 PM
Another Gold for Whitlock. What an hour he has had!!!

I bet he shagged Taylor Swift during the break too.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Dante Lavelli on August 14, 2016, 08:34:17 PM
Wonderful stuff from both gymnasts.  I agree re-Smith, I feel sorry for him but you can't take anything away from Whitlock.

Probably a bit unfair but I'm not a fan of the bloke, seems more interested in being a celebrity rather than the best in his discipline.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Exeter 77 on August 14, 2016, 08:34:30 PM
It is great to see a British athlete gutted with silver
I thought that when Greg Rutherford was so disappointed with Bronze last night.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: ACVilla on August 14, 2016, 08:37:00 PM
Wonderful stuff from both gymnasts.  I agree re-Smith, I feel sorry for him but you can't take anything away from Whitlock.

Probably a bit unfair but I'm not a fan of the bloke, seems more interested in being a celebrity rather than the best in his discipline.
Yet he is the best In the world in 2 disciplines.

Strangely though I'm not a fan either, can't put my finger on it but not sure I like the bloke.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Risso on August 14, 2016, 08:39:10 PM
2nd in the table now ahead of China.  Stunning, simply stunning.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Richard E on August 14, 2016, 08:39:59 PM
Another Gold for Whitlock. What an hour he has had!!!

I bet he shagged Taylor Swift during the break too.

He turned up at her bedroom door but I told him to sod off because she was otherwise engaged.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: dave shelley on August 14, 2016, 08:45:05 PM
Another Gold in the sailing just confirmed.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Dante Lavelli on August 14, 2016, 08:46:59 PM
Super Saturday is now stupid sunday.
This is mental. 
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 14, 2016, 08:48:36 PM
Another Gold in the sailing just confirmed.

Won't go onto the official tally until Tuesday. Which means we can only win a paltry 5 golds today!
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Risso on August 14, 2016, 08:54:26 PM
Wonderful stuff from both gymnasts.  I agree re-Smith, I feel sorry for him but you can't take anything away from Whitlock.

Probably a bit unfair but I'm not a fan of the bloke, seems more interested in being a celebrity rather than the best in his discipline.


Based on what exactly?!

He's just won two gold medals in an hour, the first two golds we've ever had in gymnastics.  How would he have achieved that at the age of 23 if he wasn't utterly dedicated?  Unless you meant Smith, in which case I agree.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: spangley1812 on August 14, 2016, 08:56:52 PM
Wonderful stuff from both gymnasts.  I agree re-Smith, I feel sorry for him but you can't take anything away from Whitlock.

Probably a bit unfair but I'm not a fan of the bloke, seems more interested in being a celebrity rather than the best in his discipline.


Based on what exactly?!

He's just won two gold medals in an hour, the first two golds we've ever had in gymnastics.  How would he have achieved that at the age of 23 if he wasn't utterly dedicated?  Unless you meant Smith, in which case I agree.

I think he means Smith, wasn't he on Come Dancing??
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Dante Lavelli on August 14, 2016, 08:58:54 PM
Sorry, yes Smith.  Me not liking him is a big price to pay for him doing Strictly.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Richard E on August 14, 2016, 09:02:20 PM
Sorry, yes Smith.  Me not liking him is a big price to pay for him doing Strictly.

And he missed out on shagging Taylor Swift, too.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: andyh on August 14, 2016, 09:12:39 PM
Who to want to win?
Kenny or skinner? What a horrible decision to have to make.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Richard E on August 14, 2016, 09:14:29 PM
Who to want to win?
Kenny or skinner? What a horrible decision to have to make.

I can't make up my mind. They're going to have to settle it by racing on bicycles.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: andyh on August 14, 2016, 09:21:08 PM
There are worst jobs in the world than being Becky James' saddle!
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: paul_e on August 14, 2016, 09:27:37 PM
There are worst jobs in the world than being Becky James' saddle!

The only problem with that is that you probably don't want to tell her fella that you want the job.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: OCD on August 14, 2016, 09:29:34 PM
Somebody posted a picture on Twitter earlier of the final top 25 of the Atlanta Games to compare the difference. We're nowhere to be seen. Quite startling to see the difference.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Whiney MacWhineface on August 14, 2016, 09:30:49 PM
There are worst jobs in the world than being Becky James' saddle!

Certainly at least one up from being Raven Saunders' athletic shorts.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: ACVilla on August 14, 2016, 09:38:04 PM
Somebody posted a picture on Twitter earlier of the final top 25 of the Atlanta Games to compare the difference. We're nowhere to be seen. Quite startling to see the difference.
Two words:

National Lottery
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 14, 2016, 09:39:24 PM
Somebody posted a picture on Twitter earlier of the final top 25 of the Atlanta Games to compare the difference. We're nowhere to be seen. Quite startling to see the difference.

Didn't we win just 1 gold in that Olympics? Redgrave and Pinsent?
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Rudy65 on August 14, 2016, 09:39:45 PM
Never thought i would say it but the cycling and gymnastics has been fab. Superb by all the Brits. 
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: garyshawsknee on August 14, 2016, 09:40:39 PM
Yep.  None in athletics i think. 
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 14, 2016, 09:40:41 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Summer_Olympics_medal_table
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 14, 2016, 09:41:11 PM
Pretty crazy really.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Dante Lavelli on August 14, 2016, 09:43:32 PM
Somebody posted a picture on Twitter earlier of the final top 25 of the Atlanta Games to compare the difference. We're nowhere to be seen. Quite startling to see the difference.
Two words:

National Lottery

When the government talk about cutting funding for the under performing olympic sports (badminton springs to mind) is that in addition to the National Lottery funding or is it simply a case of how the Lottery money gets divvied up across all the sports/arts?
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: andyh on August 14, 2016, 09:43:41 PM
Somebody posted a picture on Twitter earlier of the final top 25 of the Atlanta Games to compare the difference. We're nowhere to be seen. Quite startling to see the difference.
Two words:

National Lottery
Absolutely.
I was explaining this to my missus the other day, who suddenly knows everything about the onmium and the Kieran, including the best tactics for overtaking, despite never watching track cycling before Friday, and never sitting her arse on a bike.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: ACVilla on August 14, 2016, 09:49:05 PM
Somebody posted a picture on Twitter earlier of the final top 25 of the Atlanta Games to compare the difference. We're nowhere to be seen. Quite startling to see the difference.
Two words:

National Lottery

When the government talk about cutting funding for the under performing olympic sports (badminton springs to mind) is that in addition to the National Lottery funding or is it simply a case of how the Lottery money gets divvied up across all the sports/arts?
I'm guessing but I'd imagine it's just how the money is divvied up.

Whatever way it is it works a treat and it can't be long before lots of other countries copy our investment strategy.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: ACVilla on August 14, 2016, 09:52:45 PM
Info here regarding UK Sport investment.

http://www.uksport.gov.uk/our-work/investing-in-sport/how-uk-sport-funding-works
Interesting to note that lottery money basically pays athletes wages enabling them to be full time athletes.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 14, 2016, 09:52:51 PM
Gold for Kenny, Silver for Skinner
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: dave shelley on August 14, 2016, 09:53:23 PM
Huge respect for all these athletes.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 14, 2016, 09:54:07 PM
Del Potro looks out on his feet, yet is taking control against Murray.

Bit strange
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: andyh on August 14, 2016, 09:55:05 PM
Well done Kenny, you killed it.

I just cant get excited about the tennis though.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: ACVilla on August 14, 2016, 09:56:07 PM
Reading the info regarding lottery funding it is very good news for local lad Matthew Hudson-Smith who qualified quite spectacularly for the 400 final. This will see him get at least Band B funding.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 14, 2016, 10:00:43 PM
Massive hold of serve for Murray
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: ACVilla on August 14, 2016, 10:24:49 PM
I tell you what, you really have to admire Andy Murray. It's hard to think that prior to 2012 he was a perennial finals loser, hadn't won a major and was not a hugely popular sportsman especially to your average English person.

4 years later he is a multi open winner, looking likely to win his second Olympic gold and seems very proud wearing the GB vest. Through sheer hard work id say he has also won around most English sports fans.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: VillaAlways on August 14, 2016, 10:37:54 PM
Having a bit of a wobble in the second set a break down
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: devilla on August 14, 2016, 11:10:26 PM
Del Potro starting to put those forehands into the net now. Fancy Murray to break him in this game.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Dave Cooper please on August 14, 2016, 11:25:08 PM
This next omnium race is brilliant, the elimination race. Laura Trott is an expert at it, let's hope Cav has been taking some tips.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: OCD on August 14, 2016, 11:35:37 PM
Lottery funding was the initial catalyst but since then so much has subsequently changed. The culture, expectations, technology, analysis etc.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: PGW on August 14, 2016, 11:38:19 PM
This next omnium race is brilliant, the elimination race. Laura Trott is an expert at it, let's hope Cav has been taking some tips.
Bit daft there trying to get through on inside getting eliminated that way when well placed.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: paul_e on August 14, 2016, 11:39:06 PM
This next omnium race is brilliant, the elimination race. Laura Trott is an expert at it, let's hope Cav has been taking some tips.

My favourite in the whole thing, it's great fun. Cav got himself trapped inside a bit too often but a decent enough result to keep him in touch.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: PGW on August 14, 2016, 11:44:11 PM
A great break for Murray...4-2 up
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 14, 2016, 11:51:37 PM
This next omnium race is brilliant, the elimination race. Laura Trott is an expert at it, let's hope Cav has been taking some tips.

My favourite in the whole thing, it's great fun. Cav got himself trapped inside a bit too often but a decent enough result to keep him in touch.

The Elimination Race is the best event in the entire Olympics.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 14, 2016, 11:52:56 PM
Third set... Murray! Please finish it in four, I'd like to be asleep before 2am for once.
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Post by: OCD on August 14, 2016, 11:55:19 PM
I thought Murray winning the first set was absolutely crucial. I couldn't see Del Potro being able to sustain his peak levels for 4 hours plus, especially after his injury problems and having a tough match against Nadal yesterday. So far, so good.
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Post by: Monty on August 14, 2016, 11:55:28 PM
Christ, playing Murray must be an absolute nightmare. Del Potro has been hitting some of the best forehands I've ever seen and he's 2-1 down - not to mention pretty shagged out, by the look of it.
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Post by: VillaAlways on August 14, 2016, 11:59:00 PM
Very shabby from Murray. Gave that game away
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Post by: paul_e on August 15, 2016, 12:04:02 AM
Brilliant first round for Buatsi in the boxing.
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Post by: ACVilla on August 15, 2016, 12:04:54 AM
Being the towel boy must be the most frustrating job in sport.
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Post by: VillaAlways on August 15, 2016, 12:09:33 AM
FFS
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Post by: Pat McMahon on August 15, 2016, 12:10:47 AM
Info here regarding UK Sport investment.

http://www.uksport.gov.uk/our-work/investing-in-sport/how-uk-sport-funding-works
Interesting to note that lottery money basically pays athletes wages enabling them to be full time athletes.

I was listening to a cycling commentator earlier who said that the British cycling budget is roughly equal to the next 9 nations combined. The sustained success is all to do with great full time athletes working in a dedicated environment with top coaches and sports scientists. Apparently the US team has one full time employee.
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Post by: paul_e on August 15, 2016, 12:12:23 AM
Brilliant first round for Buatsi in the boxing.

Wins and has at least a bronze.
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Post by: PGW on August 15, 2016, 12:14:04 AM
Brilliant first round for Buatsi in the boxing.

Wins and has at least a bronze.
Shame McCormack got beat.
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Post by: St AustellAVFC on August 15, 2016, 12:17:35 AM
Let's go Andy, let's go . Apart from the chant I'm loving the late night sport. Last night was so much fun, hope tonight is the same.
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Post by: OCD on August 15, 2016, 12:17:54 AM
Brilliant first round for Buatsi in the boxing.

Wins and has at least a bronze.

How does he have at least a bronze when he's into a semi final?
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Monty on August 15, 2016, 12:18:56 AM
Brilliant first round for Buatsi in the boxing.

Wins and has at least a bronze.

How does he have at least a bronze when he's into a semi final?

Pretty sure the losing semi-finalists each get a bronze in the boxing.
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Post by: paul_e on August 15, 2016, 12:24:35 AM
Brilliant first round for Buatsi in the boxing.

Wins and has at least a bronze.

How does he have at least a bronze when he's into a semi final?

Pretty sure the losing semi-finalists each get a bronze in the boxing.

Yep, no third place fight so you get 2 bronzes in each weight.
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Post by: VillaAlways on August 15, 2016, 12:33:39 AM
Murray now serving to stay in the set
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Post by: St AustellAVFC on August 15, 2016, 12:36:53 AM
Sat in my caravan, kids and wife sleeping, me and my dog chilling. Normally hate Murray but am really backing him tonight. Crowd sound intimidating for a tennis match.
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Post by: VillaAlways on August 15, 2016, 12:47:36 AM
Now hold your serve
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Post by: St AustellAVFC on August 15, 2016, 12:56:07 AM
The best thing about this Murray game is, we don't need to look at his bloody mom every time he gets a point.
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Post by: St AustellAVFC on August 15, 2016, 01:06:14 AM
Gold for Murray. Lovely from both players at the end. Enjoyed that.
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Post by: cdbearsfan on August 15, 2016, 01:06:40 AM
Murray wins! What a fucking hero. And hopefully the twat in the jester hat has been left to fend for himself in the City of God.
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Post by: VillaAlways on August 15, 2016, 01:07:55 AM
Absolutely fantastic from Murray. An absolute winner
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Post by: Ads on August 15, 2016, 01:11:44 AM
Epic match! Well done Murray!
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Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 15, 2016, 01:13:12 AM
Gold for Murray. Lovely from both players at the end. Enjoyed that.

Yeah, the embrace between the two at the end was one of the defining moments of these games
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Post by: OCD on August 15, 2016, 01:15:00 AM
What a tense match. 5 Golds in one day, amazing. Glad he won just because of that cheating Argie.

Fair play to Del Potro. Great effort saying how tired he must have been. It'll be interesting to see if Murray can win the US Open.
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Post by: olaftab on August 15, 2016, 01:18:28 AM
  .....  it's raining Gold!
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Post by: luke:lamf on August 15, 2016, 01:24:44 AM
Very impressive from Bolt. Going to be worth staying up for another hour or so and seeing if he can do it.

I'm not sure if there has been some directive from the BBC, but I keep hearing the commentator saying "X resides in 4/5/6th place" and I find it incredibly grating. Resides !? It's their place of abode ? It seems to be a pretty clear example of someone trying to use a longer word that doesn't really fit, to try and appear a bit cleverer than they probably are. Whatever happened to "sits in" or, even more simply, "is in"... ?
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 15, 2016, 01:41:46 AM
I hope Bolt destroys drug cheat Gatlin who shouldn't even be in the Olympics imo.

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Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 15, 2016, 02:00:52 AM
Still ahead of China in medals table. Incredible!
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Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 15, 2016, 02:02:07 AM
Wow. WR in the 400m

From Lane 8
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 15, 2016, 02:02:08 AM
New WR in the men's 400M.
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Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 15, 2016, 02:02:41 AM
Michael Johnson's record gone. Never thought that would happen
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Post by: Villafirst on August 15, 2016, 02:14:00 AM
Great 400 men's final. Amazing new WR of 43:02.
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Post by: Villafirst on August 15, 2016, 02:17:17 AM
Well done Andy Murray!  A true champion. Del Potro pushed Andy really hard. Great match.
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 15, 2016, 02:27:18 AM
BOOM!
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Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 15, 2016, 02:27:45 AM
Shame the cheat got a medal.
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Post by: Ron Manager on August 15, 2016, 02:58:22 AM
Usian Bolt probably the greatest athlete in history.
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Post by: devilla on August 15, 2016, 02:58:32 AM
Wow. WR in the 400m

From Lane 8

Amazing from lane 8. Can't remember whether Michael Johnson's record was run in that lane.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: devilla on August 15, 2016, 03:01:18 AM
Usian Bolt probably the greatest athlete in history.

He's a force of nature. Thought Gatlin got a great start but Bolt just reeled him in. Gatlin winning would have ruined it for me.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 15, 2016, 08:23:41 AM
Can someone explain how Russians that have never failed a test, are banned and Gatlin, who has failed two, is allowed to compete?
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Post by: ACVilla on August 15, 2016, 08:40:26 AM
Delighted, not just for Bolt but for the sport itself. I'd convinced myself that Gatlin was going to win, so much so that I didn't watch it so to wake up this morning to this news is great.

I then read about van Niekerk beating Michael Johnson's record and the cynic in me immediately raises doubts about the legality of him. A quick Wikipedia read through assures me that he seems to be just a very special athlete.

A quick mention for Matthew Hudson Smith who, despite coming 8th in the final, has had a meteoric 6 months or so and has secured himself some pretty decent lottery funding which is great.
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Post by: Brend'Watkins on August 15, 2016, 08:41:54 AM
Well done Andy Murray!  A true champion. Del Potro pushed Andy really hard. Great match.

If Murray could improve his first serve he would be number 1 in the world no problem. Still, it was a great match as you say with both players giving their all. I felt a bit for Del Potro as he comes across as a decent bloke.
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Post by: UK Redsox on August 15, 2016, 09:00:17 AM
Usian Bolt probably the greatest athlete in history.


"Hey, Usain... how about a quick smile for the camera?"

(http://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/scalefit_630_noupscale/57b11ccd1700002c00d1eb34.jpeg?cache=b08n3qrkm7)
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: UK Redsox on August 15, 2016, 09:01:38 AM
Can someone explain how Russians that have never failed a test, are banned and Gatlin, who has failed two, is allowed to compete?

No
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: UK Redsox on August 15, 2016, 09:02:33 AM
I hope Bolt destroys drug cheat Gatlin who shouldn't even be in the Olympics imo.



These Olympics are in a perfect timezone for you, aren't they ?  :)
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Post by: paul_e on August 15, 2016, 09:14:11 AM
Usian Bolt probably the greatest athlete in history.


"Hey, Usain... how about a quick smile for the camera?"

(http://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/scalefit_630_noupscale/57b11ccd1700002c00d1eb34.jpeg?cache=b08n3qrkm7)

Probably the photo that sums him up more than anything else, canters over the line with a big grin on his face whilst the rest are working their bollocks off to get within a couple of meters of him.  Phenomenal athlete and the next olympics is going to be a much poorer event for his absence.

For Van Niekerk I think being in lane 8 was the difference for him, he had 2 very quick guys inside him and just went for it because he didn't know where they were, great start and finish but the power in the middle 200 was the key.
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Post by: Brend'Watkins on August 15, 2016, 03:25:31 PM
Those two O'Donnovan brothers who won the silver in rowing are giving some great interviews.  Tactics for the final..."Get your head down and pull like a dog"
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Post by: dave shelley on August 15, 2016, 03:37:15 PM
Those two O'Donnovan brothers who won the silver in rowing are giving some great interviews.  Tactics for the final..."Get your head down and pull like a dog"

Asked about food, one of them replied "plenty of shpuds and shteak!"  They really are brilliant.  Down to earth doesn't really cover it.  They did an interview with national t.v. and said they were starving, next thing, RTE had Pizza delivered and they were munching on that.  Great fun.
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Post by: paul_e on August 15, 2016, 03:47:31 PM
They are brilliant, I love the interview after they got the medals that Dave mentioned, they get asked about what it's like back home and you honestly get the impression that they'd rather get all the nonsense of interviews, etc out of the way so they could just go to the pub.
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Post by: dave shelley on August 15, 2016, 04:49:44 PM
I'm not over keen on boxing, sorry boxing fans but, can someone who has knowledge of these things; please explain why headguards are not in evidence during these games?  I've just seen a clash of heads resulting in a cut eye which, had headguards been in use, would not have happened.

Also, why did the referee not take action in the same fight when one boxer punched the other in the bollocks, not once but twice?

I'm only watching because I can't be bothered with dancing horses.  Horses are only good enough for pulling beer wagons, glue and, if you're French, sandwiches.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 15, 2016, 05:37:02 PM
I've been neglecting my duties to keep score this Olympics... so here you go....

GREAT BRITAIN 16 (Sixteen)
Australolia 6

and the swimming has finished!
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Post by: paul_e on August 15, 2016, 06:03:34 PM
I'm not over keen on boxing, sorry boxing fans but, can someone who has knowledge of these things; please explain why headguards are not in evidence during these games?  I've just seen a clash of heads resulting in a cut eye which, had headguards been in use, would not have happened.

Also, why did the referee not take action in the same fight when one boxer punched the other in the bollocks, not once but twice?

I'm only watching because I can't be bothered with dancing horses.  Horses are only good enough for pulling beer wagons, glue and, if you're French, sandwiches.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/35701948
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Post by: dave shelley on August 15, 2016, 06:18:13 PM
Thanks Paul_e.
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Post by: paul_e on August 15, 2016, 06:32:35 PM
I was trying to find the actual study to post some of the evidence but the basics of it is that people are more willing to punch the top and back of the head which are the really dangerous ones.

It's related to studies on american football which have shown a clear increase in the number of injuries and the severity of injuries as a result of body armour.
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Post by: dave shelley on August 15, 2016, 06:55:40 PM
It's a strange one isn't it?  You would think that cracking heads together would bring more of a risk of concussion but there you go.
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Post by: Risso on August 15, 2016, 09:06:58 PM
I've been neglecting my duties to keep score this Olympics... so here you go....

GREAT BRITAIN 16 (Sixteen)
Australolia 6

and the swimming has finished!

Having turned up for the first day or two, the Aussies now seem to have packed up and gone home.
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Post by: paul_e on August 15, 2016, 09:21:49 PM
Brilliant from Trott to take the lead after 2 events and the elimination to come today which she has a great reputation in.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 15, 2016, 09:25:40 PM
I've been neglecting my duties to keep score this Olympics... so here you go....

GREAT BRITAIN 16 (Sixteen)
Australolia 6

and the swimming has finished!

Having turned up for the first day or two, the Aussies now seem to have packed up and gone home.

While you're here... I was wondering, do all Manx people sound like Cavendish? Sort of an odd mix between Scouse and Mancunian?
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Post by: devilla on August 15, 2016, 09:26:56 PM
Great performance by Marcus Ellis and Chris Langridge in the men's doubles badminton today. Through to the semi-final now so chance of another medal there.

You don't see much badminton coverage on the telly which is a shame because it's a great sport. The BBC's onlne coverage has been realy good though.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 15, 2016, 09:52:44 PM
Not really sure why Cavendish hasn't been disqualified? Will they wait until the end or has he got away with it?
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Risso on August 15, 2016, 09:52:44 PM
I've been neglecting my duties to keep score this Olympics... so here you go....

GREAT BRITAIN 16 (Sixteen)
Australolia 6

and the swimming has finished!

Having turned up for the first day or two, the Aussies now seem to have packed up and gone home.

While you're here... I was wondering, do all Manx people sound like Cavendish? Sort of an odd mix between Scouse and Mancunian?

Pretty much!

Can anybody explain what on earth is going on is this last omnium race?!
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 15, 2016, 09:53:15 PM
I'm not sure but I like it... fucking mental event!
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Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 15, 2016, 10:20:10 PM
Good Silver for Cavendish, but I can't help that think after his  bitching and whining he really needed to win Gold to make any sort of point
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Post by: cdbearsfan on August 15, 2016, 10:27:26 PM
Elimination Race! My favourite.
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Post by: Colhint on August 15, 2016, 10:42:32 PM
I think Trott will be our best Olympian ever eventualy
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Post by: West Derby Villan on August 15, 2016, 10:46:01 PM
I think Trott will be our best Olympian ever eventualy


Agree, she's got "age" on her side as well as extraordinary talent and fitness
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Post by: SteveN on August 15, 2016, 10:55:43 PM
I'm more of a road racing fan than track but bloody hell the elimination and points races in the omnium are tremendous to watch.
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Post by: Rudy65 on August 15, 2016, 10:58:50 PM
I think Trott will be our best Olympian ever eventualy

She is awesome. Nothing to her but bloody hell the power of her sprint
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Post by: Rudy65 on August 15, 2016, 11:00:10 PM
Good Silver for Cavendish, but I can't help that think after his  bitching and whining he really needed to win Gold to make any sort of point

Bit like Louis Smith?
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Colhint on August 15, 2016, 11:05:19 PM
I think Trott will be our best Olympian ever eventualy

She is awesome. Nothing to her but bloody hell the power of her sprint

And she's got 9 centuries for england
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Pat McMahon on August 15, 2016, 11:13:54 PM
Elimination Race! My favourite.

Never seen it before but I loved it. Feels like it was designed by Stephen King
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Post by: cdbearsfan on August 15, 2016, 11:35:01 PM
Men's heavyweight final on now.
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Post by: devilla on August 15, 2016, 11:44:58 PM
Rajiv Ouseph just reached the quarter final in the men's singles Badminton. Fantastic performance against Tommy Sugiarto, a very talented Indonesian player.

What an Olympics this is for the Brits.
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Post by: cdbearsfan on August 15, 2016, 11:46:51 PM
Controversial decision in the heavyweight final.

It wasn't quite Jones Jr vs the Korean bloke, but I'm not sure about it.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on August 16, 2016, 08:52:01 AM
They stopped the final round in the men's heavyweight boxing final to tend to the Russian bloke, who's head was bleeding, for an absolute age. Must have been frustrating for the Kazakh, who seemed on the verge of knocking him out at the time.

Also watched a splendidly dirty matchup between an Egyptian and a Mexican earlier. The Egyptian was punching to the back of the head, pushing his opponent's chin up with the back of his hand and finally did a low blow smack where it hurts. The Mexican on the other hand spat his gumshield out about 6 times to delay the fight and take a breather, suspect he knew that he was ahead.
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Post by: PGW on August 16, 2016, 03:02:09 PM
Adams just started...defending her Gold against girl from Ukraine
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Post by: PGW on August 16, 2016, 03:43:13 PM
Adams won to progress into last 4, guaranteed a Bronze.....only had 1 fight!!
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Post by: Ger Regan on August 16, 2016, 06:32:51 PM
Anyone see the conlan fight? Disgraceful decision.
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Post by: Jon Crofts on August 16, 2016, 07:29:03 PM
Not really sure why Cavendish hasn't been disqualified? Will they wait until the end or has he got away with it?


Because it was a racing incident and not deliberate, he was covering what he thought was a move by Viviani to come down from high and misjudged it. Go to your local velodrome and watch any track race and there will be a crash, shit happens its part of track racing.
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Post by: cdbearsfan on August 16, 2016, 10:57:32 PM
Okay. Sound off in the pub. Can anyone explain what is going on?
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Post by: Risso on August 16, 2016, 10:58:27 PM
So what happens now in the cycling.  Stopped once and Kenny looking like he got a big let off.  Second infringement from the German seemingly, are they going to disqualify him?
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Post by: Countryside Villain on August 16, 2016, 10:59:57 PM
I don't quite get it but you can't be ahead of the shit green bike before it peels off. There was a chance that Kenny faced DQ on the first false start but was ruled that it was too difficult to judge. Then wouldn't you believe it, one of them does it again. Sure to be a DW this time.
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Post by: Countryside Villain on August 16, 2016, 11:01:46 PM
Brilliant. Decided the technology is shit so they don't have the grounds to disqualify anybody. This could go on all night.
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Post by: cdbearsfan on August 16, 2016, 11:19:44 PM
Update imminent....
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Post by: cdbearsfan on August 16, 2016, 11:20:05 PM
GREAT BRITAIN 19 (nineteen)
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Post by: cdbearsfan on August 16, 2016, 11:20:16 PM
Australolia 7
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Post by: cdbearsfan on August 16, 2016, 11:21:46 PM
Chuck another gold on the barbie.
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Post by: Colhint on August 16, 2016, 11:32:43 PM
The thing is with the motorbike, it has to leave the track at a certain point. that point is marked on the track, he kept going over.  Imagine formula 1 , they line up on the grid, just on the painted line, then go. The cyclists  are looking at that line to go, if the bloke on a bike hasn't got off the track, that's his fault, not the cyclists
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Post by: Ian. on August 17, 2016, 07:48:24 AM
Elimination Race! My favourite.

Never seen it before but I loved it. Feels like it was designed by Stephen King

It's brilliant, best thing I've seen so far too, love it.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Ian. on August 17, 2016, 07:51:16 AM
Usian Bolt probably the greatest athlete in history.


"Hey, Usain... how about a quick smile for the camera?"

(http://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/scalefit_630_noupscale/57b11ccd1700002c00d1eb34.jpeg?cache=b08n3qrkm7)
Wonderful!
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Post by: Eckybloke on August 17, 2016, 10:20:53 AM
The thing is with the motorbike, it has to leave the track at a certain point. that point is marked on the track, he kept going over. 

It was the last time people were going to see the natty gentleman on his funky futuristic bike.  Maybe he just couldn't let go...
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Post by: paul_e on August 17, 2016, 10:28:36 AM
With the Keirin last night I think the problem was that he motorbike wasn't accelerating off the course, they normally give it a bit of gas of the last corner so the first bike or 2 behind don't have a massive disadvantage but the guy yesterday wasn't doing that so everyone was concertina'd up behind him.  It can't be good for the race to have people back peddling to stay behind the pace bike at the start of the sprint and Kenny was having to do that on the 2nd attempt.  For the third I thhink they all agreed to let the motorbike get 5-6 yards on them so they could just get on with it, but again that's not ideal.
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Post by: ACVilla on August 17, 2016, 11:19:12 AM
I've just seen Laura Muir in the 1500m final and I tell you what she may not have ran a tactically great race at all but bloody hell fair play to her, she really gave it a go.

Wonderful effort.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: ACVilla on August 17, 2016, 11:22:02 AM
Surely the Brazilian crowd should know more about Olympic etiquette than the Beijing public in 2008, in that respect it was really poor form to boo the French pole vaulter the other night when he was jumping but to boo him when he stands on the podium to receive his silver medal is pretty damn shocking.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: LeeS on August 17, 2016, 11:46:30 AM
Surely the Brazilian crowd should know more about Olympic etiquette than the Beijing public in 2008, in that respect it was really poor form to boo the French pole vaulter the other night when he was jumping but to boo him when he stands on the podium to receive his silver medal is pretty damn shocking.

Grace, in a sporting context, comes with practice. We can see from the tiny number of medals they've won and the shameful attendances that Brazil just aren't a big sporting nation.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on August 17, 2016, 01:03:49 PM
Bit odd, could maybe understand them booing him (but not condone) if the Brazilian had finished second behind him, but their guy won!

Brazil are crap at sport. 200M people and they've got 2 golds so far. The only sport they're any good at is football.

Beach Volleyball doesn't really count.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Richard E on August 17, 2016, 01:04:55 PM
Even Brazil being good at football is more open to question than it used to be.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Villafirst on August 17, 2016, 02:24:02 PM
Mo Farah was lucky not to fall in the 5000 heat! I wish he'd keep out of the bunch - move clear of the pack ffs!
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Ger Regan on August 17, 2016, 02:40:45 PM
I'm really conflicted about Farah, on the one hand he seems like a really great guy, but on the other, his who support structure absolutely stinks.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: paul_e on August 17, 2016, 02:50:46 PM
They're very good at their type of football.  Unfortunately the rest of the world has caught up to them and there are other ways to play now that are just as effective.  Brazil rule at the 'street' football (footsal is it?) thing they play and that's clearly shown by the close control and tricks that their best players all have (Neymar being the best example, the guy is a magician with the ball at his feet but at times struggles to convert that to end product).

The biggest problem they have with other sport is the sheer degree of poverty in the country, so many of the olympic events are just out of reach of most of their public and they, like so many countries, don't have any system in place to brin gout the potential.  GB probably do it better than anywhere in the world, for an island of our size we really have no rights being in the top 2-3 in cricket, rugby, cycling, rowing and gymnastics alongside the random world class competitors in other sports with people like Farah and Peaty.  We have a better conversion rate from young potential than pretty much any other country in the world when you bring in all sports.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 17, 2016, 05:28:52 PM
Brazil 2 up, Honduras defending like we did last season, especially for the first.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: LeeS on August 17, 2016, 07:26:47 PM
Brazil 2 up, Honduras defending like we did last season, especially for the first.

6 nil now. Have Honduras got Lescott and Richards in defence?
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Rudy65 on August 17, 2016, 07:39:55 PM
I'm really conflicted about Farah, on the one hand he seems like a really great guy, but on the other, his who support structure absolutely stinks.

Stink? In what way?
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: ACVilla on August 17, 2016, 08:00:24 PM
I'm really conflicted about Farah, on the one hand he seems like a really great guy, but on the other, his who support structure absolutely stinks.

Stink? In what way?
I'm presuming it is in reference to Alberto Salazar.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Ger Regan on August 17, 2016, 09:40:51 PM
And Jama Aden. As I say, I hope he's clean, but there's serious questions to be asked.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 17, 2016, 10:11:05 PM
And Jama Aden. As I say, I hope he's clean, but there's serious questions to be asked.

There are questions to be asked, but I just cannot see him not being clean.

None of his times come close to breaking world records or anything like that
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: ACVilla on August 17, 2016, 10:13:24 PM
And Jama Aden. As I say, I hope he's clean, but there's serious questions to be asked.

There are questions to be asked, but I just cannot see him not being clean.

None of his times come close to breaking world records or anything like that
I totally agree that he is clean but you can't use world records as a barometer to decide if he's clean or not.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 17, 2016, 10:17:01 PM
And Jama Aden. As I say, I hope he's clean, but there's serious questions to be asked.

There are questions to be asked, but I just cannot see him not being clean.

None of his times come close to breaking world records or anything like that
I totally agree that he is clean but you can't use world records as a barometer to decide if he's clean or not.

The point was that none of his performances look suspicious when you watch them. His career has been steady progression, there hasn't been a massive spike in his performance
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on August 17, 2016, 10:33:50 PM
British women look like they're going to be in the gold medal match in the hockey for the first time ever.

Beating New Zealand 3-0
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: ACVilla on August 17, 2016, 10:38:27 PM
And Jama Aden. As I say, I hope he's clean, but there's serious questions to be asked.

There are questions to be asked, but I just cannot see him not being clean.

None of his times come close to breaking world records or anything like that
I totally agree that he is clean but you can't use world records as a barometer to decide if he's clean or not.

The point was that none of his performances look suspicious when you watch them. His career has been steady progression, there hasn't been a massive spike in his performance
It's a crying shame that athletics make us have this discussion. Until they rid themselves of the Gatlin's of this world this conversation will continue to happen.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Pat McMahon on August 17, 2016, 11:00:06 PM
Surely the Brazilian crowd should know more about Olympic etiquette than the Beijing public in 2008, in that respect it was really poor form to boo the French pole vaulter the other night when he was jumping but to boo him when he stands on the podium to receive his silver medal is pretty damn shocking.

Grace, in a sporting context, comes with practice. We can see from the tiny number of medals they've won and the shameful attendances that Brazil just aren't a big sporting nation.

I know a fella from California who is out there at the moment to support a friend of his in the athletics. He has posted some great pics on Facebook and I asked him how come he has seen so many great events (athletics finals including Bolt and Farah, Velodrome Tuesday, boxing last night, diving etc)and he said it is all down to cost.

Very simply the tickets are out o ft he reach of most Brazilians, so there are loads of unsold tickets for many events. Throw in the absence of medal hopes for Brazil in many events and you can basically turn up on the door.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Pat McMahon on August 17, 2016, 11:01:50 PM
Despite generally being good at sport the BBC have been shite for the Olympics.

Watching the hockey tonight and ey must have switched channels twice. Why don't they just show the whole bloody game on one channel and stick with it.

It feels like they have been bought by ITV.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: ACVilla on August 17, 2016, 11:15:42 PM
Despite generally being good at sport the BBC have been shite for the Olympics.

Watching the hockey tonight and ey must have switched channels twice. Why don't they just show the whole bloody game on one channel and stick with it.

It feels like they have been bought by ITV.
Shocking isn't it, they don't deserve to retain the rights. Even Sky with their continuous adverts would do better. Hugely dissapointed in the BBC.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: ACVilla on August 18, 2016, 07:52:39 AM
Bizarre reports emerging regarding Ryan Lochte and his teammates.

Despite some fantastic individual performances and great successes for us I'm afraid this Olympics will go down as one of the worst in living memory.

Roll on Tokyo 2020.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Jon Crofts on August 18, 2016, 09:00:52 AM
Bizarre reports emerging regarding Ryan Lochte and his teammates.

Despite some fantastic individual performances and great successes for us I'm afraid this Olympics will go down as one of the words to in living memory.

Roll on Tokyo 2020.

Relating to the gunpoint robbery?  Sounds well dodgy, CCTV at the Olympic Village blows a hole in their story allegedly.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: ACVilla on August 18, 2016, 09:21:40 AM
Bizarre reports emerging regarding Ryan Lochte and his teammates.

Despite some fantastic individual performances and great successes for us I'm afraid this Olympics will go down as one of the words to in living memory.

Roll on Tokyo 2020.

Relating to the gunpoint robbery?  Sounds well dodgy, CCTV at the Olympic Village blows a hole in their story allegedly.
Yes John. The stories emerging don't make sense. Then reports coming that Lochte and a teammate were not allowed to leave the country but had apparantly left two days earlier but two other teammates had been detained at the airport on their way home.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Dave Cooper please on August 18, 2016, 10:48:14 AM
Despite generally being good at sport the BBC have been shite for the Olympics.

Watching the hockey tonight and ey must have switched channels twice. Why don't they just show the whole bloody game on one channel and stick with it.

It feels like they have been bought by ITV.

Yes it 's been poor. I'm sure they would have had a few complaints if they had, say, made BBC2 the dedicated Olympics channel, all the main coverage on there, no switching, but surely they would have been allowed to for an event that only happens every four years?
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on August 18, 2016, 10:53:48 AM
Despite generally being good at sport the BBC have been shite for the Olympics.

Watching the hockey tonight and ey must have switched channels twice. Why don't they just show the whole bloody game on one channel and stick with it.

It feels like they have been bought by ITV.

Yes it 's been poor. I'm sure they would have had a few complaints if they had, say, made BBC2 the dedicated Olympics channel, all the main coverage on there, no switching, but surely they would have been allowed to for an event that only happens every four years?

I think it has been improving (or I'm getting used to it). The coverage on the iPlayer is the way to go for me.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Jon Crofts on August 18, 2016, 11:14:39 AM
Despite generally being good at sport the BBC have been shite for the Olympics.

Watching the hockey tonight and ey must have switched channels twice. Why don't they just show the whole bloody game on one channel and stick with it.

It feels like they have been bought by ITV.

Yes it 's been poor. I'm sure they would have had a few complaints if they had, say, made BBC2 the dedicated Olympics channel, all the main coverage on there, no switching, but surely they would have been allowed to for an event that only happens every four years?

I think it has been improving (or I'm getting used to it). The coverage on the iPlayer is the way to go for me.

It's not great having to switch channels but I do have some sympathy, 7000 hours of sport and the BBC is showing over 3000 hours of it.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: LeeS on August 18, 2016, 11:55:13 AM
And they also made the sensible decision to push the 10pm news back while we watched Kenny make history. They got that right, at least.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: paul_e on August 18, 2016, 12:28:02 PM
Yeah I think the BBC have done a decent job really, I've been using iplayer rather than sticking to the schedule.

My only complaint is that I'd like them to have everything available on catchup, all neatly organised by sport and date so if you want to go back and watch, for example, the race where the dutch girl road along the wall (which was fucking brilliant) then you can easily find it.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Dante Lavelli on August 18, 2016, 01:25:58 PM
Despite generally being good at sport the BBC have been shite for the Olympics.

Watching the hockey tonight and ey must have switched channels twice. Why don't they just show the whole bloody game on one channel and stick with it.

It feels like they have been bought by ITV.
Shocking isn't it, they don't deserve to retain the rights. Even Sky with their continuous adverts would do better. Hugely dissapointed in the BBC.

I strongly disagree that Sky would be better.  It would be a disaster for sport in the UK.  Part of the beauty of the Olympics is that the BBC allows pretty much everyone to have access to it which is vital for the minority sports.  I appreciate that I've twisted your words slightly there as you're referring to the quality of the coverage rather than the merits of the actual broadcaster (apologies).

In defence of the BBC - from a coverage perspective - I think it's best enjoyed via the iPlayer app and BBC website rather than watching the traditional  BBC1/BBC2 TV channels.  It's the same for Glastonbury too.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Dante Lavelli on August 18, 2016, 01:28:39 PM
Bizarre reports emerging regarding Ryan Lochte and his teammates.

Despite some fantastic individual performances and great successes for us I'm afraid this Olympics will go down as one of the words to in living memory.

Roll on Tokyo 2020.

Have any newspapers reported on the alternative theories?  I'd be interested to read if links are available.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: ACVilla on August 18, 2016, 02:35:49 PM
Bizarre reports emerging regarding Ryan Lochte and his teammates.

Despite some fantastic individual performances and great successes for us I'm afraid this Olympics will go down as one of the words to in living memory.

Roll on Tokyo 2020.

Have any newspapers reported on the alternative theories?  I'd be interested to read if links are available.
I haven't read anything apart from what is being reported mainstream but it's all just a little bit strange, not least the American officials initially stating they hadn't been mugged and then changing their official line to they had.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: dave shelley on August 18, 2016, 04:48:26 PM
Brownlee brothers first and second in the Triathlon.  Great achievements both.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Richard E on August 18, 2016, 04:50:23 PM
Bizarre reports emerging regarding Ryan Lochte and his teammates.

Despite some fantastic individual performances and great successes for us I'm afraid this Olympics will go down as one of the words to in living memory.

Roll on Tokyo 2020.

Have any newspapers reported on the alternative theories?  I'd be interested to read if links are available.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-37115778
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Ron Manager on August 18, 2016, 05:45:43 PM
Brownlee brothers first and second in the Triathlon.  Great achievements both.

Absolute dedication to their chosen sport. A credit to this country.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Ron Manager on August 18, 2016, 05:48:15 PM
Bizarre reports emerging regarding Ryan Lochte and his teammates.

Despite some fantastic individual performances and great successes for us I'm afraid this Olympics will go down as one of the words to in living memory.

Roll on Tokyo 2020.

Relating to the gunpoint robbery?  Sounds well dodgy, CCTV at the Olympic Village blows a hole in their story allegedly.

Oh dear it looks like they have been found out. Not good for the USA.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Jon Crofts on August 18, 2016, 07:06:41 PM
Brownlee brothers first and second in the Triathlon.  Great achievements both.

Absolute dedication to their chosen sport. A credit to this country.

Sports.

They're amazing athletes, it was a great shame Javier Gomez is injured, I think he'd have been there or there abouts with Alistair on previous form.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: fredm on August 18, 2016, 08:25:59 PM
Brownlee brothers first and second in the Triathlon.  Great achievements both.

Absolute dedication to their chosen sport. A credit to this country.

Sports.

They're amazing athletes, it was a great shame Javier Gomez is injured, I think he'd have been there or there abouts with Alistair on previous form.

And the Brownlees said before the event that they were disappointed that Gomez was injured as they wanted to test themselves against the best in the world and his injury would mean that one of the best would not be there.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Villafirst on August 18, 2016, 10:15:24 PM
Brilliant Brownlee brothers!
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Ron Manager on August 19, 2016, 06:52:00 AM
I watched the 200 metres live and about four times since.I still think Gemini got the bronze!!
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 19, 2016, 08:06:58 AM
Another gold for Jade Jones. That's us on 22 now.

Fair play to Australia. They've nearly won a third of our golds.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: olaftab on August 19, 2016, 08:14:46 AM
Pfftt....,Jonathan Brownlee not even the best triathlon competitor  in his own family!
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on August 19, 2016, 08:35:44 AM
British women won a sailing gold.

Was that the one where they just needed to complete the race to win the gold? If so I was hoping that they'd turn up in pirate outfits.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: oldtimernow on August 19, 2016, 08:42:20 AM
Bizarre reports emerging regarding Ryan Lochte and his teammates.

Despite some fantastic individual performances and great successes for us I'm afraid this Olympics will go down as one of the words to in living memory.

Roll on Tokyo 2020.

Relating to the gunpoint robbery?  Sounds well dodgy, CCTV at the Olympic Village blows a hole in their story allegedly.

Oh dear it looks like they have been found out. Not good for the USA.

It's a disgrace....they should strip the USA of all their medals...

Liars and cheating has no place in Olympian sport.

Doh!
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: ACVilla on August 19, 2016, 09:02:28 AM
Bizarre reports emerging regarding Ryan Lochte and his teammates.

Despite some fantastic individual performances and great successes for us I'm afraid this Olympics will go down as one of the words to in living memory.

Roll on Tokyo 2020.

Relating to the gunpoint robbery?  Sounds well dodgy, CCTV at the Olympic Village blows a hole in their story allegedly.

Oh dear it looks like they have been found out. Not good for the USA.

It's a disgrace....they should strip the USA of all their medals...

Liars and cheating has no place in Olympian sport.

Doh!

12 gold medals and this will be his ultimate Olympic legacy. What a fool, what on earth was he thinking?
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Eckybloke on August 19, 2016, 10:41:51 AM

12 gold medals and this will be his ultimate Olympic legacy. What a fool, what on earth was he thinking?

I think this explains that he's just an entitled man-child. (https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/aug/18/ryan-lochte-rio-olympics-robbery-gunpoint-ileana-reality-tv)
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Jon Crofts on August 19, 2016, 10:51:24 AM
Another gold for Jade Jones. That's us on 22 now.

Fair play to Australia. They've nearly won a third of our golds.

I've missed the rivalry with the shackle draggers, they've been shit at sport for a while now, cricket, rugby, the Olympics.  It's fucking great.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: LeeS on August 19, 2016, 04:19:55 PM
Aaron Cook eliminated early doors. That is pretty humiliating since he kicked up such a fuss over being dropped by GB last time around. I wonder how much the Moldovans paid him to take their passport.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Damo70 on August 19, 2016, 05:23:16 PM
I haven't watched any of it but I have just seen some pictures in the paper of Sam Quek. She might have been hit by some hockey sticks in her time but she certainly hasn't been hit by any ugly sticks.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: thick_mike on August 19, 2016, 05:34:08 PM
I haven't watched any of it but I have just seen some pictures in the paper of Sam Quek. She might have been hit by some hockey sticks in her time but she certainly hasn't been hit by any ugly sticks.

Hands off, she's mine!
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Damo70 on August 19, 2016, 05:44:29 PM
I haven't watched any of it but I have just seen some pictures in the paper of Sam Quek. She might have been hit by some hockey sticks in her time but she certainly hasn't been hit by any ugly sticks.

Hands off, she's mine!


Surely it's down to who gets in there 'Quekest'!
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: ACVilla on August 19, 2016, 05:47:21 PM
I haven't watched any of it but I have just seen some pictures in the paper of Sam Quek. She might have been hit by some hockey sticks in her time but she certainly hasn't been hit by any ugly sticks.

Hands off, she's mine!


Surely it's down to who gets in there 'Quekest'!
I see your Sam Quek and raise you an Ellen Hoog.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Lastfootstamper on August 19, 2016, 06:12:58 PM
I haven't watched any of it but I have just seen some pictures in the paper of Sam Quek. She might have been hit by some hockey sticks in her time but she certainly hasn't been hit by any ugly sticks.

Crikey!!
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: dave shelley on August 19, 2016, 06:18:27 PM
I'm loving the BMX.  It's like crash test dummies on bikes.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: dave shelley on August 19, 2016, 06:42:35 PM
In this BMX, one of the most predictable pieces of commentary has to be: "Oh, there's a crash".
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: four fornicholl on August 19, 2016, 06:51:11 PM
Nick Skelton, 7 Olympics?, must be a record.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: four fornicholl on August 19, 2016, 07:02:49 PM
Wow, a 58 year old Olympic champion, that's fkn mad.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: TopDeck113 on August 19, 2016, 07:15:11 PM
The Olympics where even our near-pensioners are whipping the world's arses.  Unbelievable.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: four fornicholl on August 19, 2016, 07:48:54 PM
The Olympics where even our near-pensioners are whipping the world's arses.  Unbelievable.
Complete with a hip replacement. The epitome of old age.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: four fornicholl on August 19, 2016, 08:40:38 PM
Can I be arsed to watch the hockey?, probably not but I hope they win.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: ACVilla on August 19, 2016, 09:11:17 PM
Can I be arsed to watch the hockey?, probably not but I hope they win.
Ditto, they deserve to be watched but.......nah. Good luck to them,
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Jon Crofts on August 19, 2016, 09:12:35 PM
Can I be arsed to watch the hockey?, probably not but I hope they win.
Ditto, they deserve to be watched but.......nah. Good luck to them,

It's good so far, cloggers missed a pen and we are 1 up in Q1
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: VILLA MOLE on August 19, 2016, 09:19:26 PM
great goal , juggling involved
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Jon Crofts on August 19, 2016, 09:24:32 PM
1-1 Van der Valk equalises.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 19, 2016, 09:35:07 PM
I've decided that hockey is shite. Do they ever manage to go 30 seconds without a penalty of some sort? Plus we're losing now!
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Whiney MacWhineface on August 19, 2016, 09:35:24 PM
Getting swarmed 1-2
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Jon Crofts on August 19, 2016, 09:35:30 PM
2-1 Van der Molen
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on August 19, 2016, 09:36:17 PM
2-2  :) :)
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Jon Crofts on August 19, 2016, 09:36:45 PM
2-2 great goal and response.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: rob_bridge on August 19, 2016, 09:58:35 PM
Dutch are relentless


Good to see Muhammad through to final
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Jon Crofts on August 19, 2016, 10:00:21 PM
3-2 Van der Stiggels.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: olaftab on August 19, 2016, 10:00:46 PM
They take the lead now. It was coming.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: rob_bridge on August 19, 2016, 10:20:00 PM
3.3
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: olaftab on August 19, 2016, 10:20:16 PM
Yes game on
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Jon Crofts on August 19, 2016, 10:20:48 PM
3-3
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Jon Crofts on August 19, 2016, 10:33:22 PM
Pens
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: olaftab on August 19, 2016, 10:40:56 PM
1-0
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: cheadlevilla on August 19, 2016, 10:42:59 PM
Can we sign this GB keeper please?
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: olaftab on August 19, 2016, 10:43:49 PM
It's gOLLLLLLD 2-0
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 19, 2016, 10:43:59 PM
We won the gold but even the shootout was crap. Still, well done girls.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Jon Crofts on August 19, 2016, 10:44:47 PM
Excellent entertainment
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 19, 2016, 10:45:48 PM
That was a bit exciting! Villa should sign that goalie.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: rob_bridge on August 19, 2016, 10:46:19 PM
Cracking. Saw them beat Aussies in first game and thye have been briooiant throughout
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: TopDeck113 on August 19, 2016, 10:46:51 PM
Bonkers but brilliant.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: dave shelley on August 19, 2016, 10:48:33 PM
An o.g. of Okore proportions in the womens football final.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Brend'Watkins on August 19, 2016, 10:56:08 PM
Best Olympic team moment I've seen. The Dutch were the better team but happened to be up against a brilliant keeper. She was immense. Felt a bit for the Dutch but at least the coach got to dish out plenty of hugs and support to her team which by the look of her I'm sure she liked.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: manic-road on August 19, 2016, 11:01:08 PM
Yep the GB keeper was exceptional in the woman's hockey, the Dutch will no doubt be aggrieved as they were far the better team in the match. 
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 19, 2016, 11:03:56 PM
Not good news for the Paralympics

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/disability-sport/37135083
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 19, 2016, 11:21:27 PM
Yep the GB keeper was exceptional in the woman's hockey, the Dutch will no doubt be aggrieved as they were far the better team in the match.

Maybe, but they only got through by winning a penalty shootout whereas Britain qualified by right. I don't think they can have too many complaints on that basis.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: dave shelley on August 19, 2016, 11:26:13 PM
It's time we won a penalty shoot out, even if it was the Hockey women that showed us how it's done.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: paul_e on August 19, 2016, 11:50:20 PM
I watched one of the group games in the hockey and thought the keeper looked brilliant and every game since she seems to have just got better, she was immense today and was the key difference between the teams.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: TopDeck113 on August 20, 2016, 12:04:41 AM
Best Olympic team moment I've seen. The Dutch were the better team but happened to be up against a brilliant keeper. She was immense. Felt a bit for the Dutch but at least the coach got to dish out plenty of hugs and support to her team which by the look of her I'm sure she liked.

To quote Barry Davies, frankly, who cares.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Pat McMahon on August 20, 2016, 01:32:10 AM
Excellent entertainment

Completely agree. A rally good game and only a great goalkeeping display, dogged defending and a very good conversion ratio for the few chances created saw the Brits win it.

From the very beginning when a couple of the Dutch girls had the giggles during their anthem it was fantastic entertainment.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: oldtimernow on August 20, 2016, 08:43:15 AM
The Olympics where even our near-pensioners are whipping the world's arses.  Unbelievable.
Complete with a hip replacement. The epitome of old age.

It's that attention to detail that really pisses the others off!
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: oldtimernow on August 20, 2016, 08:46:14 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/37140834

Has there been anymore on this?
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Risso on August 20, 2016, 10:02:53 AM
Really well done to Nick Skelton.  I remember my nan taking me to Canwell Show near Sutton Coldfield in the 70s and seeing him jumping there, so that really is an impressive career span.  The hockey final was brilliant TV as well, their penalty shoot outs are mental.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Jon Crofts on August 20, 2016, 10:33:00 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/37140834

Has there been anymore on this?

Ridiculous if that's upheld, smacks of cheating or at the very least influencing an official by the Brazilians.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: TopDeck113 on August 20, 2016, 12:04:04 PM
The London-centric media bleating about the inconvenience of the Olympic/Paralympic victory parade being in Manchester, conveniently forgetting that tens-of-thousands of their fellow residents in the South East don't seem to have any problem making the trek every fortnight between August and May.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 20, 2016, 12:07:11 PM
Lutalo Muhammed must be devastated. Losing in the last second must be incredibly difficult to take
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: rob_bridge on August 20, 2016, 06:48:42 PM
The London-centric media bleating about the inconvenience of the Olympic/Paralympic victory parade being in Manchester, conveniently forgetting that tens-of-thousands of their fellow residents in the South East don't seem to have any problem making the trek every fortnight between August and May.

Very good
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: olaftab on August 21, 2016, 12:13:40 AM
Brazil win the gold medal in Football after beating Germans on pens.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 21, 2016, 01:50:39 AM
Boom! Mo does it again.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Ger Regan on August 21, 2016, 01:54:56 AM
Whatever the questions, I want him to be knighted, just to annoy / confuse the daily mailers.
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Post by: dave shelley on August 21, 2016, 01:56:07 AM
Never looked troubled. Superb athlete.  Worth staying up for.
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Post by: PaulWinch again on August 21, 2016, 01:56:15 AM
Mo is remarkable.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: taylorsworkrate on August 21, 2016, 01:57:52 AM
Truly incredible athlete. In complete control from start to finish
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Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on August 21, 2016, 02:12:04 AM
Good run by Butchart too.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 21, 2016, 02:17:44 AM
4x400 Bronze.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: PeterWithesShin on August 21, 2016, 02:32:41 AM
Two of the heptathletes jumped higher than the winning jump in the individual high jump.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: oldtimernow on August 21, 2016, 09:03:11 AM
If you take out their two main sports from GB and USA then you end up with GB winning 18 golds against USA 14 golds
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Monty on August 21, 2016, 05:07:19 PM
If you take out their two main sports from GB and USA then you end up with GB winning 18 golds against USA 14 golds

Yes, the British spread across different events is incredibly impressive.

I've just read that Britain will officially finish ahead of China in second place. That's absolutely nuts.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Jon Crofts on August 21, 2016, 05:21:26 PM
If you take out their two main sports from GB and USA then you end up with GB winning 18 golds against USA 14 golds

Yes, the British spread across different events is incredibly impressive.

I've just read that Britain will officially finish ahead of China in second place. That's absolutely nuts.

Yep an unassailable lead over China, bonkers.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: TopDeck113 on August 21, 2016, 06:47:27 PM
Delighted as I am with the achievements of British athletes, I'm finding the obsession with the medal table just a little bit disconcerting.  I don't recall the same focus when we weren't winning anything but a handful of medals in the Olympiads of the late twentieth century. 

I've had a family member post on Facebook, "...just surprised no one seems to be suggesting joining up with 27 other European nations as a super team to ensure our future success..." To which my response was:

(1) Now there's an idea as to how to catch the runaway leaders who are a federation of fifty states with a single currency.

(2) Who are you going to follow in next month's Ryder Cup?

(3) Now that we've supposedly got our country back, how do you feel about celebrating the "British" gold medal success of, amongst others, on the athletics track a Somalian refugee based in Oregon, in the velodrome cyclists who were Belgium-born (with an Australian father) and German-born (with a German-mother), and on the rowing lake a men's coxless four that contained the sons of Moroccan and Greek fathers (coached by a German)?

I've yet to get a response.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: spangley1812 on August 21, 2016, 06:56:09 PM
All the highlights are on BBC1 from 8.00pm tonight
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: four fornicholl on August 21, 2016, 07:22:21 PM
Good luck Joe. This is going to be good.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Villa in Denmark on August 21, 2016, 07:45:29 PM
It's coming home,
It's coming home,
Handball's coming home.

I'd be impressed if I knew the rules.

Although beating France who apparently had won the last 10 Olympic/European/World championships sounds quite good.

Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 21, 2016, 07:46:38 PM
That French bloke stole that and he appears to be a cock.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: LeeS on August 21, 2016, 07:49:31 PM
That French bloke stole that and he appears to be a cock.

It's hardly a surprise. Aren't all boxing judges either blind or corrupt?
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Villa in Denmark on August 21, 2016, 08:00:04 PM
Delighted as I am with the achievements of British athletes, I'm finding the obsession with the medal table just a little bit disconcerting.  I don't recall the same focus when we weren't winning anything but a handful of medals in the Olympiads of the late twentieth century. 

I agree. I can just about remember Montreal in '76 and clearly remember Moscow in '80 and can't remember anything of that nature until Seoul in '88, where after, with each passing Olympiad  it's become an almost pernicious yardstick for whether it was worth turning up.

Everything in life is reduced to a business analyst's ROI and ROCE metrics  these days, including human life itself.

As for the impressive medal haul itself, an effect in partsof so many Russians (quite rightly) missing?
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Whiney MacWhineface on August 21, 2016, 08:05:40 PM
I remember the medal table being rammed into our faces every Olympics back to 1960:

USA 1,000
USSR 999
East Germany 50
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GB  2 Gold, 3 Silvers (due to cheating judges), 5 (plucky) bronzes
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: paul_e on August 21, 2016, 08:15:16 PM
Yeah, I remember the medal table being a source of shame in 96.  I don't see a problem with celebrating it, remember what it really represents is that we have absolutely mastery of 1 sport (track cycling) but more importantly we have found a formula to achieve success in a vast number of events.  Being proud of that is perfectly reasonable.  What we need to start looking at now is finding ways to improve in the sports/areas where we've failed or at least not had much success.  We've done very little in field athletics for example.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Jon Crofts on August 21, 2016, 09:01:45 PM
Boxing judges are a fucking disgrace to the games.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: ACVilla on August 21, 2016, 09:06:31 PM
We've done very little in field athletics for example.
Agreed, I love watching field athletics. Oh for the glorious failures of Dalton Grant and Steve Backley. And the perennial eigth place for Mick Hill.

Does anyone know what happened to Steve Lewis?
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Jon Crofts on August 21, 2016, 09:28:04 PM
We've done very little in field athletics for example.
Agreed, I love watching field athletics. Oh for the glorious failures of Dalton Grant and Steve Backley. And the perennial eigth place for Mick Hill.

Does anyone know what happened to Steve Lewis?

The American sprinter?  I vaguely remember him in Seoul I think.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: ACVilla on August 21, 2016, 09:33:03 PM
We've done very little in field athletics for example.
Agreed, I love watching field athletics. Oh for the glorious failures of Dalton Grant and Steve Backley. And the perennial eigth place for Mick Hill.

Does anyone know what happened to Steve Lewis?

The American sprinter?  I vaguely remember him in Seoul I think.
GB pole vaulter, looked very good at one point.

Carl Lewis is no better than Ben Johnson.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Exeter 77 on August 21, 2016, 09:36:57 PM
We've done very little in field athletics for example.
Agreed, I love watching field athletics. Oh for the glorious failures of Dalton Grant and Steve Backley. And the perennial eigth place for Mick Hill.

Does anyone know what happened to Steve Lewis?
According to Wikipedia he finished 29th at the World Championships last year.





Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: ACVilla on August 21, 2016, 09:45:48 PM
We've done very little in field athletics for example.
Agreed, I love watching field athletics. Oh for the glorious failures of Dalton Grant and Steve Backley. And the perennial eigth place for Mick Hill.

Does anyone know what happened to Steve Lewis?
According to Wikipedia he finished 29th at the World Championships last year.
Thanks. He turned average then. We had a female pole vaulter who I think broke the UK record as well recently. I'll have to wiki her
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: ACVilla on August 21, 2016, 09:47:16 PM
We've done very little in field athletics for example.
Agreed, I love watching field athletics. Oh for the glorious failures of Dalton Grant and Steve Backley. And the perennial eigth place for Mick Hill.

Does anyone know what happened to Steve Lewis?
According to Wikipedia he finished 29th at the World Championships last year.
Thanks. He turned average then. We had a female pole vaulter who I think broke the UK record as well recently. I'll have to wiki her
Holly Bradshaw apparantly, not who I was thinking of, it was Kate Dennison.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Risso on August 21, 2016, 10:36:42 PM
Well, on the whole I really enjoyed the Olympics.  GB have outdone themselves, with a magnificent medal haul in wide variety of sports.  A few things though:

Take out Mo, and we're exceedingly crap in Track and Field.  Where are the sprinters and middle distance runners, and all of the other events ike discus, hammer and pole vault etc?

Surely they need to even out the medals available in the various events.  The USA got 33 medals, about a quarter of their total in swimming.  Also, as pleased as I was for Nicola Adams, she was guaranteed a bronze after winning one fight.  And sort the bloody judges out for the boxing, they were a disgrace.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: TopDeck113 on August 21, 2016, 10:43:35 PM
What we need to start looking at now is finding ways to improve in the sports/areas where we've failed or at least not had much success. 

No. What we need to start looking at now is why the easily-cited inspiration of winning a large haul of medals doesn't translate into increased participation. Why two hours per week of P.E. is no longer statutory in schools.  Why cuts in council budgets inevitably mean a disproportionate cut in funding of leisure and sports facilities.  In an ideal world, developing and delivering world class performers should be the by-product of a culture of mass participation by all - and especially the young. 
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Ads on August 22, 2016, 12:03:21 AM
Funding for scholarships at universities where the thick fast kid can get a "degree" in some made up shite like sociology while spending 90% of their time training for the 400 metres. That's how the Americans do it.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Ger Regan on August 22, 2016, 09:49:26 AM
Funding for scholarships at universities where the thick fast kid can get a "degree" in some made up shite like sociology while spending 90% of their time training for the 400 metres. That's how the Americans do it.
This is not a million miles away from GB's recipe for success, is it?
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: paul_e on August 22, 2016, 10:00:58 AM
What we need to start looking at now is finding ways to improve in the sports/areas where we've failed or at least not had much success. 

No. What we need to start looking at now is why the easily-cited inspiration of winning a large haul of medals doesn't translate into increased participation. Why two hours per week of P.E. is no longer statutory in schools.  Why cuts in council budgets inevitably mean a disproportionate cut in funding of leisure and sports facilities.  In an ideal world, developing and delivering world class performers should be the by-product of a culture of mass participation by all - and especially the young. 

Not really, that's a very different problem and comes down to the effect of austerity and the politicising of education.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: thick_mike on August 22, 2016, 10:38:18 AM
I don't have any stats, but the number of people cycling and jogging around this neck of the woods seems to have massively increased over the last ten years. Focus seems to be on individual exercise and fitness rather than competitive sport.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: LeeS on August 22, 2016, 01:34:12 PM
I don't have any stats, but the number of people cycling and jogging around this neck of the woods seems to have massively increased over the last ten years. Focus seems to be on individual exercise and fitness rather than competitive sport.

Maybe a reflection of the diminished social cohesion. We are all more solitary in our outlook now.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: PaulWinch again on August 22, 2016, 02:07:02 PM
Well, on the whole I really enjoyed the Olympics.  GB have outdone themselves, with a magnificent medal haul in wide variety of sports.  A few things though:

Take out Mo, and we're exceedingly crap in Track and Field.  Where are the sprinters and middle distance runners, and all of the other events ike discus, hammer and pole vault etc?

Surely they need to even out the medals available in the various events.  The USA got 33 medals, about a quarter of their total in swimming.  Also, as pleased as I was for Nicola Adams, she was guaranteed a bronze after winning one fight.  And sort the bloody judges out for the boxing, they were a disgrace.

I think once Bolt is gone Gemilli will be up there in the 200 metres. He's got a good flat speed and runs a great bend. He's also got plenty of scope to improve.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: TopDeck113 on August 22, 2016, 06:29:18 PM
What we need to start looking at now is finding ways to improve in the sports/areas where we've failed or at least not had much success. 

No. What we need to start looking at now is why the easily-cited inspiration of winning a large haul of medals doesn't translate into increased participation. Why two hours per week of P.E. is no longer statutory in schools.  Why cuts in council budgets inevitably mean a disproportionate cut in funding of leisure and sports facilities.  In an ideal world, developing and delivering world class performers should be the by-product of a culture of mass participation by all - and especially the young. 

Not really, that's a very different problem and comes down to the effect of austerity and the politicising of education.

I disagree.  The potential gold medal winners of 2032 are already born and, for the most part, already at school.  If they're not hooked on participation and have easy/cheap access to grass-roots facilities over the next few years, then all the Lottery funding in the world is not going to delivery success at the very pinnacle of sport, at least not on the scale and breadth that we are becoming accustomed to, when they hit their twenties.

However, my wider point is, given the choice between millions of people participating in sport and physical recreation or the feel good factor of a hundred-odd of our citizens winning medals every four years, I think the former is not only the preferable option for our collective long-term health and well-being, but has the potential of actually delivering even more success.   I'm not advocating that UK Sport no longer funds the top level programmes, but I wonder whether additional - and much greater amounts of - Lottery money shouldn't be directed towards creating that base.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Risso on August 22, 2016, 06:42:42 PM
What we need to start looking at now is finding ways to improve in the sports/areas where we've failed or at least not had much success. 



No. What we need to start looking at now is why the easily-cited inspiration of winning a large haul of medals doesn't translate into increased participation. Why two hours per week of P.E. is no longer statutory in schools.  Why cuts in council budgets inevitably mean a disproportionate cut in funding of leisure and sports facilities.  In an ideal world, developing and delivering world class performers should be the by-product of a culture of mass participation by all - and especially the young. 

Not really, that's a very different problem and comes down to the effect of austerity and the politicising of education.

I disagree.  The potential gold medal winners of 2032 are already born and, for the most part, already at school.  If they're not hooked on participation and have easy/cheap access to grass-roots facilities over the next few years, then all the Lottery funding in the world is not going to delivery success at the very pinnacle of sport, at least not on the scale and breadth that we are becoming accustomed to, when they hit their twenties.

However, my wider point is, given the choice between millions of people participating in sport and physical recreation or the feel good factor of a hundred-odd of our citizens winning medals every four years, I think the former is not only the preferable option for our collective long-term health and well-being, but has the potential of actually delivering even more success.   I'm not advocating that UK Sport no longer funds the top level programmes, but I wonder whether additional - and much greater amounts of - Lottery money shouldn't be directed towards creating that base.


They were making a similar point on R5 on the drive home.  Apparently Finland is the fittest nation in Europe by most available criteria, but managed one bronze in Rio.  I don't see why the two have to be mutually exclusive.  My two eldest both enjoy swimming, Taekwondo and horse riding, and both have been hugely inspired by watching the success of the GB team.  Cycling is hugely popular over, inspired in part by Mark Cavendish and Peter Kennaugh.  The country needs a combination of good facilities, good parenting, good teaching of sport in schools, and people to look up to.  The government has a huge part to play in that, of course.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: paul_e on August 22, 2016, 07:05:54 PM
What we need to start looking at now is finding ways to improve in the sports/areas where we've failed or at least not had much success. 

No. What we need to start looking at now is why the easily-cited inspiration of winning a large haul of medals doesn't translate into increased participation. Why two hours per week of P.E. is no longer statutory in schools.  Why cuts in council budgets inevitably mean a disproportionate cut in funding of leisure and sports facilities.  In an ideal world, developing and delivering world class performers should be the by-product of a culture of mass participation by all - and especially the young. 

Not really, that's a very different problem and comes down to the effect of austerity and the politicising of education.

I disagree.  The potential gold medal winners of 2032 are already born and, for the most part, already at school.  If they're not hooked on participation and have easy/cheap access to grass-roots facilities over the next few years, then all the Lottery funding in the world is not going to delivery success at the very pinnacle of sport, at least not on the scale and breadth that we are becoming accustomed to, when they hit their twenties.

However, my wider point is, given the choice between millions of people participating in sport and physical recreation or the feel good factor of a hundred-odd of our citizens winning medals every four years, I think the former is not only the preferable option for our collective long-term health and well-being, but has the potential of actually delivering even more success.   I'm not advocating that UK Sport no longer funds the top level programmes, but I wonder whether additional - and much greater amounts of - Lottery money shouldn't be directed towards creating that base.

No they shouldn't be, that's my point.  We shouldn't be using those funds to improve sport in schools or provide community sports facilities, those are things that should be paid for out of taxes but that have been purposely cut by successive governments.  The lottery funding is a finite pot that is spread across numerous areas including sport so additional funding means a withdrawal of lottery funding from other areas (such as culture and the arts) in favour of sport, even if that's not what you intend. Those areas that would lose are equally underfunded/undervalued from the government at school and community level and need the money just as badly.

As I've said the issue is that austerity has cut funding to the point where councils are only delivering essential services, and sports facilities don't fit in and education policy has been screwed with repeatedly for years to make everything measurable and almost entirely academic focused.  I completely agree that it's something we need to address and that it will be for the good of the country to do so I just don't think lottery funding and UK Sport direction is the right way to do it.  May has said that she wants this to be a government that serves everyone, she needs to be held to that promise and this is a key area that she should be measured on.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: TopDeck113 on August 22, 2016, 10:31:27 PM
With regard to school sport, schools are still in receipt of what is known as the Sports Premium.  It is actually reasonably generous and has the potential to give greater and wider opportunities to all children and also to the more talented.  Unfortunately, far too often at primary level it is used to bring in an outside coach to deliver P.E. lessons allowing the class teacher their contracted non-contact time without the need to employ another teacher to cover it (as a result of the squeeze on other areas of the school budget).  I'm certainly not decrying children getting an hour a week of coaching from, say, a basketball specialist, but I rather they were paid to deliver that as an extra-curricular hour in addition to the P.E. lesson delivered by the class teacher. 
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: olaftab on August 22, 2016, 11:21:23 PM
Third position where the top two are USA and China is very good indeed. I know it's about a million pounds per medal but nothing inspires our future generations like winning so well done all involved. 
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: Ron Manager on August 23, 2016, 05:35:55 AM
Whatever happened to Peri Shakes Drayton? She seems to have gone off the radar.Has she given up through injury or perhaps was over hyped by the press?
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: fredm on August 23, 2016, 07:40:44 AM
Third position where the top two are USA and China is very good indeed. I know it's about a million pounds per medal but nothing inspires our future generations like winning so well done all involved. 

Eh? I thought we finished second, behind USA and in front of China?
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: paul_e on August 23, 2016, 08:59:08 AM
Third position where the top two are USA and China is very good indeed. I know it's about a million pounds per medal but nothing inspires our future generations like winning so well done all involved. 

Eh? I thought we finished second, behind USA and in front of China?

China got more total medals but we got more golds and silvers.  We're 2nd officially but some sites have just reported the medal count and have us 3rd.

Olaf you're a long way short with your valuation, it's closer to £4m per medal, the head of UK sport gave that very figure at the weekend.  However even at that level I agree with you that it's worth every penny.

With regard to school sport, schools are still in receipt of what is known as the Sports Premium.  It is actually reasonably generous and has the potential to give greater and wider opportunities to all children and also to the more talented.  Unfortunately, far too often at primary level it is used to bring in an outside coach to deliver P.E. lessons allowing the class teacher their contracted non-contact time without the need to employ another teacher to cover it (as a result of the squeeze on other areas of the school budget).  I'm certainly not decrying children getting an hour a week of coaching from, say, a basketball specialist, but I rather they were paid to deliver that as an extra-curricular hour in addition to the P.E. lesson delivered by the class teacher. 

See again this is what I mean about the way sport in education is handled.  Throwing extra lottery funding into the mix won't help.  There needs to be a fundamental shift in education policy to a point where areas which are difficult to measure teacher performance are given just as big a priority as subjects where the government can produce stats and tables.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: LeeS on August 23, 2016, 11:19:14 AM
Third position where the top two are USA and China is very good indeed. I know it's about a million pounds per medal but nothing inspires our future generations like winning so well done all involved. 

Eh? I thought we finished second, behind USA and in front of China?

China got more total medals but we got more golds and silvers.  We're 2nd officially but some sites have just reported the medal count and have us 3rd.



We are not anything 'officially' because there is no such thing as the official medal table. In fact, the IOC has said in the past that it doesn't recognise medal tables and doesn't encourage them. It is even documented as such in the IOC charter. Different countries and different media present things for their own audiences. In the US, for instance, the convention is total medals - meaning they see China as 2nd and us as 3rd.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: paul_e on August 23, 2016, 11:25:41 AM
Then they should probably tell themselves as much because if you go to the website for rio 2016 - https://www.rio2016.com/en/schedule-and-results - and click on medals on the left you get a fairly clear medal table in the format that I called official.  That's why I said it that way because that's what their own website reports.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: LeeS on August 23, 2016, 11:34:05 AM
Then they should probably tell themselves as much because if you go to the website for rio 2016 - https://www.rio2016.com/en/schedule-and-results - and click on medals on the left you get a fairly clear medal table in the format that I called official.  That's why I said it that way because that's what their own website reports.

They provide it for information purposes only. And they do say that. The IOC charter is as clear as day. Medals are awarded to individuals and not countries. So although they provide a list of winners in lots of formats, they do not determine winners or runners up in the medal table. So there is no official 2nd place. Which is great as it allows us to debate it on a football forum 😄
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: paul_e on August 23, 2016, 11:44:05 AM
I get what you're saying and I agree that fundamentally athletes win medals not countries but I'm afraid i'm calling bullshit.  If they put a medal table ranked by country on their own website then they implicitly support it as a concept regardless of what they say.  If they don't wan to have a table then just put every country in alphabetical order and list the number of medals they got, gives the same info but removes the implication of 'winning'.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: LeeS on August 23, 2016, 12:04:19 PM
I get what you're saying and I agree that fundamentally athletes win medals not countries but I'm afraid i'm calling bullshit.  If they put a medal table ranked by country on their own website then they implicitly support it as a concept regardless of what they say.  If they don't wan to have a table then just put every country in alphabetical order and list the number of medals they got, gives the same info but removes the implication of 'winning'.

I think there is just an issue of semantics, I perceive a difference between, "here is a list of medals won by country, ranked in order" versus, " here is the official medal table and the winner is..."  Especially when the IOC themselves are very explicit in saying they do not recognise the medal table has having anything other than an information basis and it is not official.

The Olympic Charter, Chapter 1, section 6 states that:

"The Olympic Games are competitions between athletes in individual or team events and not between countries..."

The Charter goes even further in Chapter 5, section 57, expressly prohibiting the IOC from producing an official ranking:

"The IOC and the OCOG shall not draw up any global ranking per country"

But I accept that in a stats obsessed world we will naturally look to these tables as an indicator of success.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: paul_e on August 23, 2016, 12:31:21 PM
I get what you're saying and I agree that fundamentally athletes win medals not countries but I'm afraid i'm calling bullshit.  If they put a medal table ranked by country on their own website then they implicitly support it as a concept regardless of what they say.  If they don't wan to have a table then just put every country in alphabetical order and list the number of medals they got, gives the same info but removes the implication of 'winning'.

I think there is just an issue of semantics, I perceive a difference between, "here is a list of medals won by country, ranked in order" versus, " here is the official medal table and the winner is..."  Especially when the IOC themselves are very explicit in saying they do not recognise the medal table has having anything other than an information basis and it is not official.

The Olympic Charter, Chapter 1, section 6 states that:

"The Olympic Games are competitions between athletes in individual or team events and not between countries..."

The Charter goes even further in Chapter 5, section 57, expressly prohibiting the IOC from producing an official ranking:

"The IOC and the OCOG shall not draw up any global ranking per country"

But I accept that in a stats obsessed world we will naturally look to these tables as an indicator of success.

The bold bit is the problem, that's exactly what they've done on their own website because they have a medals table and headline it with 'top 5', that's a ranking by nation so their own website breaks their charter.  That's not semantics it's quite clearly what they've done.

As I say, I don't feel all that strongly either way but the official website for the games having a 'top 5' medal table with GB in 2nd is an official placing for the country, the charter doesn't really matter at that point, anyone looking for an official placement for their country in the medal tables will look on that website and find it.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 23, 2016, 12:34:05 PM
Third position where the top two are USA and China is very good indeed. I know it's about a million pounds per medal but nothing inspires our future generations like winning so well done all involved. 

Eh? I thought we finished second, behind USA and in front of China?

China got more total medals but we got more golds and silvers.  We're 2nd officially but some sites have just reported the medal count and have us 3rd.



We are not anything 'officially' because there is no such thing as the official medal table. In fact, the IOC has said in the past that it doesn't recognise medal tables and doesn't encourage them. It is even documented as such in the IOC charter. Different countries and different media present things for their own audiences. In the US, for instance, the convention is total medals - meaning they see China as 2nd and us as 3rd.

I'm pretty sure America only adopted that "convention" when they finished below China on golds but above them on total medals.

The general consensus is you rank by gold, then silver, then bronze.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on August 23, 2016, 01:02:10 PM
I think they should do it on points:-

3: Gold
2: Silver
1: Bronze

Or 5,3 and 1.

The current system means that bronze medals become more or less irrelevant.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: cdbearsfan on August 23, 2016, 01:16:16 PM
It should be 4, 2 and 1. Then the number of points gained in each sport should be divided by the number of medals available in said sport. That way you wouldn't have the ludicrous situation where being good at swimming is better than being good at about nine different sports.

Add all the totals together to get an overall score.

Merge the Winter and Summer Olympic Medal Tables while you're at it for a grand total to work out which is really top nation.
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: four fornicholl on August 26, 2016, 08:33:23 PM
If they had a double dutch America would have won another, Hey Ebo, Ebonettes!!!
Title: Re: Rio Olympic Games 2016
Post by: thick_mike on August 27, 2016, 11:50:12 AM
If they had a double dutch America would have won another, Hey Ebo, Ebonettes!!!

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