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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Tuscans on July 20, 2016, 02:28:30 PM
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Plans designed to reduce "intolerable behaviour" by players and managers in English football have been announced.
In a statement, the Premier League, English Football League and Football Association said poor conduct has reached "unacceptable levels".
Starting this season, red cards will be issued to players who confront match officials and use offensive language or make gestures towards them.
Behaviour within the technical areas will also be more rigorously enforced.
Not one player has been sent off in the Premier League for insulting or abusive language towards a match official in the last five seasons.
But Premier League chairman Richard Scudamore said there has been concern "for some time" that players have been "overstepping the mark".
"It is our collective position that these types of behaviour should no longer be tolerated," he added.
"Things happen in the heat of the moment during fast and highly competitive football. We still want to see the passion fans enjoy and demand, but players and managers have to be aware there are lines that should not be crossed."
Offences which could earn players a yellow card :
Visibly disrespectful behaviour to any match official;
An aggressive response to decisions;
Confronting an official face to face;
Running towards an official to contest a decision;
Offensive, insulting or abusive language and/or gestures towards match officials;
Physical contact with any match official in a non-aggressive manner;
A yellow card for at least one player when two or more from a team surround a match official.
New red card offences:
If a player confronts match officials and uses offensive, insulting or abusive language and/or gestures towards them;
Physical contact with match officials in an aggressive or confrontational
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about time too. Interesting to see how widely this is applied, especially to Chelsea, Man Ure and Jordan Henderson
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It will last as long as the previous respect campaign lasted, 2 weeks or so.
Referees have always had these options (Barry sent off anyone), however as with all decisions, the Ref will decide whether it is worth the hassle of making the decision dependent on team/ player. They don't want to miss the options of reffing the "big" games at Old Trafford or with Manure/ Chelsea. It is the same reason that Rooney has managed to eff and blind over all decisions against him but never ever saw a card.
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About time. Although I thought they were going to make those booked for diving wear a florescent arm band. That never happened did it?
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Will make no difference at all.
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How about doing something about all the pushing, pulling and grabbing of shirts carried out by defenders, when there is a corner taken.
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And anyone trying to get an opponent booked by waving an imaginary card should receive said card themselves.
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Will just benefit the wealthier Premier League clubs. I'm sure officials will have no problem sending off a Bournemouth or a Hull player, but does anyone seriously think this rule will be applied consistently? If it was, Wayne Rooney would be sent off for dissent in every game he played.
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How about doing something about all the pushing, pulling and grabbing of shirts carried out by defenders, when there is a corner taken.
Yep, stop warning people, just penalise them
Shirt pulling is never accidental and should be carded every time in occurs
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How about doing something about all the pushing, pulling and grabbing of shirts carried out by defenders, when there is a corner taken.
Yep, stop warning people, just penalise them
Shirt pulling is never accidental and should be carded every time in occurs
I've never understood why they warn them, they don't warn them anywhere else on the pitch. Just give the foul ffs
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How about doing something about all the pushing, pulling and grabbing of shirts carried out by defenders, when there is a corner taken.
Yep, stop warning people, just penalise them
Shirt pulling is never accidental and should be carded every time in occurs
I've never understood why they warn them, they don't warn them anywhere else on the pitch. Just give the foul ffs
I've no problem with the new behaviour rules, but as others have said, the physical contact at corners and free kicks are a blight on the game and really needs to be addressed sooner rather than later.
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There is nothing on that list that isn't/wasn't already covered in the laws of the game. It's just that they are/were never implemented.
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There is nothing on that list that isn't/wasn't already covered in the laws of the game. It's just that they are/were never implemented.
I think the FA and Premier League are trying to encourage it and follow rugby's take on respect for the ref. If that does ever happen it will probably be a generation until you see it.
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There is nothing on that list that isn't/wasn't already covered in the laws of the game. It's just that they are/were never implemented.
Absolutely spot on that man ... more a failing of officials applying the laws correctly than anything else.
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What a pity this wasn't brought in around 20 years or more years ago, I remember a certain team making a regular thing of surrounding and intimidating the referee when big decisions went against them.
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There is nothing on that list that isn't/wasn't already covered in the laws of the game. It's just that they are/were never implemented.
Years ago in my Sunday mornings days, we once had an Army ref. Tight game on the Ackers, and we brought on a sub to freshen things up, who ran on and declared, "Come on, we can fucking have these". Instant straight red administered. And that's gotta be 28 years ago. So unless rules regarding foul language were rescinded in the interim, they've been around at least that long.
You know, typing (thumbing) that, I got a right deja-vu. Twelve months, two years since this last got discussed?
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There is nothing on that list that isn't/wasn't already covered in the laws of the game. It's just that they are/were never implemented.
I think the FA and Premier League are trying to encourage it and follow rugby's take on respect for the ref. If that does ever happen it will probably be a generation until you see it.
The main reasons Rugby refs get respect is because they earn it. Whereas this rule won't apply to the top teams in Rugby it's applied to everyone. I personally think if football implemented the TMO then that'll help stop all the behaviour towards refs. It'll mean more correct decisions and you can't argue with the TMO as he's in the stand and the fact it'll more than likely lead to a correct decision so will cut the anger.
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There is nothing on that list that isn't/wasn't already covered in the laws of the game. It's just that they are/were never implemented.
I think the FA and Premier League are trying to encourage it and follow rugby's take on respect for the ref. If that does ever happen it will probably be a generation until you see it.
The main reasons Rugby refs get respect is because they earn it. Whereas this rule won't apply to the top teams in Rugby it's applied to everyone. I personally think if football implemented the TMO then that'll help stop all the behaviour towards refs. It'll mean more correct decisions and you can't argue with the TMO as he's in the stand and the fact it'll more than likely lead to a correct decision so will cut the anger.
In 10 years time, possibly less, something like that will come into effect.
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If this is to be implemented the referees have to show respect to the rules as much as the players - one of the things that really gets me chuntering is the referee chasing a player to book him - whistle, beckon, if player doesn't comply then book him for a 2nd time & send him off. Part of getting respect is respecting themselves and the job they do
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This ruling will never be applied consistently, imagine Wayne Rooney will last only half the games played and then Mourinho will wage war on the referees.
Intimidating officials should attract a sin bin style punishment, this punishes the player and his team but prevents matches being totally ruined by an overzealous ref where we end paying to watch 9 v 8.
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The sin bin is a punishment I'm all in favour of. Punish the player and his team during the game in which the offence takes place.
On the subject of respect for the referee, until it is instilled and insisted on at junior and youth level, and until media outlets don't lead on refereeing "controversies" as the narrative for determining the outcome of matches at the top level, it won't be happening any time soon.
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There is nothing on that list that isn't/wasn't already covered in the laws of the game. It's just that they are/were never implemented.
I think the FA and Premier League are trying to encourage it and follow rugby's take on respect for the ref. If that does ever happen it will probably be a generation until you see it.
It would take 6 weeks if the officials felt empowered to dish out the cards to whichever bunch of ****** Moanrinho's coaching this week, and whoever's taken over the chief dirty bastard role from Gerrard at Liverpool.
The managers would soon sort it out if they were down to fielding 5 youth players in an away game at Stoke because half of the team were on bans for abusing officials.
As it is, as others have said the likes of Bournemouth will end up feeling the full weight of the initiative whilst Liverpool, Arsenal Man City and Man Utd will benefit from the sort of mental gymnastics usually reserved for the NRA convention.
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The sin bin is a punishment I'm all in favour of. Punish the player and his team during the game in which the offence takes place.
On the subject of respect for the referee, until it is instilled and insisted on at junior and youth level, and until media outlets don't lead on refereeing "controversies" as the narrative for determining the outcome of matches at the top level, it won't be happening any time soon.
I don't think the sin bin is a punishment. It gives someone a 10 minute breather which his team mates can easily cover.
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The sin bin is a punishment I'm all in favour of. Punish the player and his team during the game in which the offence takes place.
On the subject of respect for the referee, until it is instilled and insisted on at junior and youth level, and until media outlets don't lead on refereeing "controversies" as the narrative for determining the outcome of matches at the top level, it won't be happening any time soon.
I don't think the sin bin is a punishment. It gives someone a 10 minute breather which his team mates can easily cover.
Covering for 1 is ok, covering for a 2nd is much tougher so you should see the team being as good as gold for the length of the sinbin. I'm in favour of it.
I also honestly think that, at professional level, they should put the ref mic on the loadspeaker. Let the refs explain their decisions and if the players are surrounding him like babies everyone can hear it and motd, etc will pick up on it and shame them into reforming their behaviour.
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Don't agree with stricter implementing of these rules which as said have been with us for years. No other sport is played at such high tempo for a prolonged period. with that comes an outburst that is made in the heat of the moment and not necessarily directed towards the official even though said to them. The best referees are those that apply common sense. I've made a heat of the moment comment to referees and the best ones are the ones who just respond with a 'Get on With It/ shut up' type attitude, or just say what they saw or think that they saw. It usually ends there. If the player persists then the warning comes then the card.