Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Villa Lew on April 29, 2016, 10:03:36 AM
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In my 59 years of supporting the Villa, I experienced relegation for the first time in the 58/59 season.
In the final match of the season on the 29th April 1959, we needed a victory at the Hawthorns to keep us up. We took the lead in the 65th minute with a goal from the late GREAT Gerry Hitchens, only for Ronnie Allen to equalise for the Albion 2 minutes from time to send us down, for only the 2nd time in our history. The good news was we made an immediate return to the top flight the next season.
In those days only 2 clubs were relegated and we went down with Portsmouth, who finished bottom. The next 3 clubs above us, were the clubs today occupying the top 3 places in the Premier League, in ascending order Man City, Leicester and Spurs. Wolves were champions, United runners up, the next 3 were Arsenal, Bolton and Albion, with Blues finishing 9th.
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I was at that game right down at the front behind the goal where Allen scored. One devastated 7 year old.
The odd thing was that Allen lived in an Albion club house round the corner from one of my aunts. He was always good to us kids playing football outside his house. I think his son, Russell ?, used to play with us.
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Is this the game where the home attendance was 300,000 judging by all the Bitters who claim to have been there?
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The year I was born - by the time I was 1 we were back in the First Division!
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The most incredible thing is that our manager left before the end. Imagine the shitstorm if that happened now?
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I was at the game with my father but do not recall it as i was only 5 years old.My father still remembers it though as if it was only yesterday and has never forgiven Allen for celebrating the goal knowing full well he had just relegated us
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Is this the game where the home attendance was 300,000 judging by all the Bitters who claim to have been there?
48,000
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The most incredible thing is that our manager left before the end. Imagine the shitstorm if that happened now?
I don't know Dave. I'd be quite happy to see Black shuffling off early down the tunnel.
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My first experience of the Villa breaking my heart. I can still recall the misery on the bus rides home with my dad. He always hated the Albion and this did nothing to change that.
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I have posted before but my granddad came home in tears that night. My nan used to tell the story of granddad being distraught outside the ground and some Albion fans mocked him. As was the custom in those days he took off his jacket before landing a couple of pissbawlers. He stowed away from Cork as a teenager but my nan's brothers made sure he was a Villa man through and through.
I lost most of my memorabilia years ago when mom had to downsize a few times whilst I lived abroad but I thought in the Peter Morris book that he claimed Allen was actually upset himself when he realised that his goal had relegated us. Can anybody confirm this?
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This match caused my old man to hate Albion with a passion all his life. Apparently they lit celebration bonfires throughout the Black Country that night.
He didn't even acknowledge Blose as even worthy of his attention.... I miss him.
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I'm sure we had big follow there, I can imagine huge numbers of villa walking up the Sandwell Road, and those who got off the number 11A at rookery Road and walk, down holyhead Road.pubs like the royal oak, grove, uplands must have been full with Villa.
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This match caused my old man to hate Albion with a passion all his life. Apparently they lit celebration bonfires throughout the Black Country that night.
He didn't even acknowledge Blose as even worthy of his attention.... I miss him.
same as my dear old Dad, his family hated the stripey filth and like me they still do...noses don't register on our radar
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The Doc
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This match caused my old man to hate Albion with a passion all his life. Apparently they lit celebration bonfires throughout the Black Country that night.
He didn't even acknowledge Blose as even worthy of his attention.... I miss him. This match caused my old man to hate Albion with a passion all his life. Apparently they lit celebration bonfires throughout the Black Country that night.
He didn't even acknowledge Blose as even worthy of his attention.... I miss him.
same as my dear old Dad, his family hated the stripey filth and like me they still do...noses don't register on our radar
UTV
The Doc
same as my dear old Dad, his family hated the stripey filth and like me they still do...noses don't register on our radar
UTV
The Doc
I don't know how I feel about it these says. We live in such an utter shite region for footy that Albion fans taking the piss out of our current plight just seems as irrelevant as Blose fans doing so.
This is the shame and disgrace of the Billionaire that is Randy Lerner's reign: I never thought we'd play the Blose again and I never thought we'd ever finish below Albion in my lifetime.
Now to fans of those clubs that may sound arrogant but our crowds used to be those two's combined a couple of seasons ago and owned by a Philanthropic Billionaire.... It must be one of professional footballs biggest fxxk ups.
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What bout villa supporters from north west brum, travelling In a north west direction to the whorethorns, plenty of boozers on route.
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Apologies if I've posted this before. During my refereeing career, Ronnie Allen was in our house trying to flog me sports insurance. I always wanted to ask him about that time he broke my heart but couldn't pluck up the courage. I got my own back by not buying any. He seemed a very nice man.
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I have posted before but my granddad came home in tears that night. My nan used to tell the story of granddad being distraught outside the ground and some Albion fans mocked him. As was the custom in those days he took off his jacket before landing a couple of pissbawlers. He stowed away from Cork as a teenager but my nan's brothers made sure he was a Villa man through and through.
I lost most of my memorabilia years ago when mom had to downsize a few times whilst I lived abroad but I thought in the Peter Morris book that he claimed Allen was actually upset himself when he realised that his goal had relegated us. Can anybody confirm this?
Nothing in the Peter Morris book Pat. Just says "he unleashed a 20 yard drive that flashed into the net past a helpless Nigel Sims" I was listening on the steam radio and was devastated. that feeling lasted for years.
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This match caused my old man to hate Albion with a passion all his life. Apparently they lit celebration bonfires throughout the Black Country that night.
He didn't even acknowledge Blose as even worthy of his attention.... I miss him.
same as my dear old Dad, his family hated the stripey filth and like me they still do...noses don't register on our radar
UTV
The Doc
This result had a similar effect on me. 12 years old and the Albion fans were unbearable at school the following day. Hated the barstewards with a vengeance ever since. Mom and dad also hated them - so part must be in the family dna. The "rags" barely registered on the dislike scale.
Still what goes around, etc. I was working in West Bromwich in 1981 and 1982. Revenge can be sweet! Then their subsequent years out of the top division were good times.
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This match caused my old man to hate Albion with a passion all his life. Apparently they lit celebration bonfires throughout the Black Country that night.
He didn't even acknowledge Blose as even worthy of his attention.... I miss him.
same as my dear old Dad, his family hated the stripey filth and like me they still do...noses don't register on our radar
UTV
The Doc
This result had a similar effect on me. 12 years old and the Albion fans were unbearable at school the following day. Hated the barstewards with a vengeance ever since. Mom and dad also hated them - so part must be in the family dna. The "rags" barely registered on the dislike scale.
Still what goes around, etc. I was working in West Bromwich in 1981 and 1982. Revenge can be sweet! Then their subsequent years out of the top division were good times.
what this shows there is some football traditions which creates the rivaly with Wba, and with blues it' none football rivaly, it's just that the supporters dislike each other.
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I have posted before but my granddad came home in tears that night. My nan used to tell the story of granddad being distraught outside the ground and some Albion fans mocked him. As was the custom in those days he took off his jacket before landing a couple of pissbawlers. He stowed away from Cork as a teenager but my nan's brothers made sure he was a Villa man through and through.
I lost most of my memorabilia years ago when mom had to downsize a few times whilst I lived abroad but I thought in the Peter Morris book that he claimed Allen was actually upset himself when he realised that his goal had relegated us. Can anybody confirm this?
He would have had to have been a hermit to be oblivious to what the points meant to Villa - relegation - and what they meant to Albion - nothing.
As I have posted elsewhere, end of season local derbies were charity affairs if one club faced relegation and the other had nothing to play for. Anecdotally (I wasn't there), Allen was the only Albion player trying in that game. Which figures with the description of his goal above. You don't just happen to whack a goal in from 20 yards, unless you mean it. Again anecdotally, Allen celebrated his goal.
I too have hated Albion ever since.
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It was the year I was born but I bet I came Into the world hating the stripey shite
Hate them with a vengeance