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Title: How many games will we win next season?
Post by: oldtimernow on April 16, 2016, 07:19:24 PM
I start off with 20

Higher or lower?
Title: Re: How many games will we win next season?
Post by: eamonn on April 16, 2016, 07:25:52 PM
How many do you need to get out of it?
Title: Re: How many games will we win next season?
Post by: brian green on April 16, 2016, 07:27:04 PM
The best I see without Moyes or Pearson is a late scramble for the playoffs so 20 could be about right.  With Moyes we will cruise into one of the automatic places.  With Pearson we will either smash them all or get relegated again.
Title: Re: How many games will we win next season?
Post by: Ads on April 16, 2016, 07:27:11 PM
46.
Title: Re: How many games will we win next season?
Post by: Deano's Mullet on April 16, 2016, 08:08:16 PM
14. Cant see us coming straight back up.
Title: Re: How many games will we win next season?
Post by: ozzjim on April 16, 2016, 08:25:11 PM
27.
Title: Re: How many games will we win next season?
Post by: andyh on April 16, 2016, 08:26:22 PM
All of the fuckers!
Title: Re: How many games will we win next season?
Post by: Richard E on April 16, 2016, 08:27:45 PM
At the moment, we only need to win 4 league games for it to be an improvement!
Title: Re: How many games will we win next season?
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on April 16, 2016, 08:27:50 PM
I'll stick my neck out and say more than this season. Maybe.
Title: Re: How many games will we win next season?
Post by: supertom on April 16, 2016, 08:29:08 PM
As our squad stands, about 10 games if we're lucky.
Ship out all the c^^ts and sign the right kind of senior player and we should finish top 4, and ideally top 2.
Title: Re: How many games will we win next season?
Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 16, 2016, 08:50:25 PM
28
Title: Re: How many games will we win next season?
Post by: BOB MANSFIELD on April 16, 2016, 08:50:50 PM
There will only be TWO " MUST WIN " games !
Title: Re: How many games will we win next season?
Post by: Richard E on April 16, 2016, 08:51:52 PM
There will only be TWO " MUST WIN " games !

For the opposition, yes, but we aim higher than that.
Title: Re: How many games will we win next season?
Post by: Irish villain on April 16, 2016, 08:55:50 PM
How many do you need to get out of it?

24 or 25 by my reckoning.

Have we won that many games in the last three seasons?
Title: Re: How many games will we win next season?
Post by: leylandalbion on April 16, 2016, 08:57:56 PM
I would imagine no where near that past 3 years. Utter disgrace how this has happened. 
Title: Re: How many games will we win next season?
Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 16, 2016, 09:05:52 PM
Working backwards and covering the last 11 years, the points needed to finish second are 87, 86, 78, 87, 81, 80, 81, 76, 85, 82, 86.

Just to be clear, that's not the points the second placed teams necessarily finished on, but what was needed to finish 1 point above 3rd place.

Title: Re: How many games will we win next season?
Post by: Lastfootstamper on April 16, 2016, 09:10:28 PM
Ooh, those look scarily big numbers.
Title: Re: How many games will we win next season?
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on April 16, 2016, 09:11:48 PM
How many do you need to get out of it?

24 or 25 by my reckoning.

Have we won that many games in the last three seasons?

Bloody hell, I thought you might have been kidding. But the answer is no. So we have to win more games next season than we have the past three combined.



Title: Re: How many games will we win next season?
Post by: Ad@m on April 16, 2016, 09:13:04 PM
How many do you need to get out of it?

24 or 25 by my reckoning.

Have we won that many games in the last three seasons?

We haven't won that many home games in the last five...!
Title: Re: How many games will we win next season?
Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 16, 2016, 09:19:43 PM
Assuming we don't win again this season, it will be 23 league wins over the last 3 seasons.

How is this for some 'fun' facts.

Last time we won more than 10 league games in a season was 10/11 under Houllier.
Last time we won 10 home games was 2007/08 when we won 10.
Last time we won more than 10 homes games, 02/03 under SGTII. We won 11.
Title: Re: How many games will we win next season?
Post by: Goldie.7 on April 16, 2016, 09:25:10 PM
We've won around a total of 40 league games since Houllier left and that was in Jun 2011.

Us winning 25/26 games next season even in a lower league is kind of hard to imagine actually happening.
Title: Re: How many games will we win next season?
Post by: nodge on April 16, 2016, 09:25:45 PM
Tough league this year, Middlesborough are on 85 now with 4 games left and they're still not certs.
Title: Re: How many games will we win next season?
Post by: Ads on April 16, 2016, 09:26:08 PM
The home form has been woeful for years. We're too nice and soft a side to play at something like Villa Park, which motivates the opposition with its history and opulence.
Title: Re: How many games will we win next season?
Post by: TonyD on April 16, 2016, 09:43:57 PM
Not many unless we fire sale most of the squad and get a winning hard core manager in.  A good start is essential.  Big VP crowds and massive away following. 
Title: Re: How many games will we win next season?
Post by: Oscar Arce on April 16, 2016, 09:46:17 PM
The answer is nowhere near enough
Title: Re: How many games will we win next season?
Post by: olaftab on April 16, 2016, 09:56:20 PM
I'll stick my neck out and say more than this season. Maybe.
You were very brave and then you go and spoil it with maybe!
Title: Re: How many games will we win next season?
Post by: olaftab on April 16, 2016, 09:57:49 PM
How many do you need to get out of it?

24 or 25 by my reckoning.

Have we won that many games in the last three seasons?

We haven't won that many home games in the last five...!
We haven't been in the second division for 28 years so no point in looking at what we did in the last 5.
Title: Re: How many games will we win next season?
Post by: Tokyo Sexwhale on April 16, 2016, 10:05:41 PM
We will probably need 25 wins to make the playoff.

27-28 wins to finish top 2.
Title: Re: How many games will we win next season?
Post by: Dave P on April 16, 2016, 10:05:49 PM
There will only be TWO " MUST WIN " games !

The ones against Newcastle to see who goes up as champions.?
Title: Re: How many games will we win next season?
Post by: Tokyo Sexwhale on April 16, 2016, 10:06:15 PM
We will probably need 22-25 wins to make the playoff.

26-28 wins to finish top 2.
Title: Re: How many games will we win next season?
Post by: Dave P on April 16, 2016, 10:08:50 PM
We will probably need 22-25 wins to make the playoff.

26-28 wins to finish top 2.

We heard you the first time 😉
Title: Re: How many games will we win next season?
Post by: Tokyo Sexwhale on April 16, 2016, 10:25:00 PM
I meant to edit, but quoted instead.

Title: Re: How many games will we win next season?
Post by: David_Nab on April 16, 2016, 10:30:51 PM
Looking at 25 plus , Boro who are top have 26 vs Burnley in 2nd with 23 as it stands


Title: Re: How many games will we win next season?
Post by: Irish villain on April 16, 2016, 10:47:29 PM
How many do you need to get out of it?

24 or 25 by my reckoning.

Have we won that many games in the last three seasons?

Bloody hell, I thought you might have been kidding. But the answer is no. So we have to win more games next season than we have the past three combined.





I posted without double-checking but was fairly sure we hadn't. It has been grim for a very long time. It is true that comparing the top flight with the Championship is a bit 'apples and oranges'. Still, that losing mentality is deeply ingrained and will be hard to shake off. We will need to hit the ground running, learn how to be professional and close tight games out.

Easy....
Title: Re: How many games will we win next season?
Post by: oswald funkletrumpet on April 16, 2016, 11:18:52 PM
14
Title: Re: How many games will we win next season?
Post by: Jimbo on April 16, 2016, 11:24:14 PM
A major change in culture must occur before we even begin to imagine winning the amount of games required to go up next year. Seriously, don't hold your breath.
Title: Re: How many games will we win next season?
Post by: oswald funkletrumpet on April 16, 2016, 11:31:29 PM
A major change in culture must occur before we even begin to imagine winning the amount of games required to go up next year. Seriously, don't hold your breath.

i can see us winning one, drawing one and losing one and finishing around tenth

we will be the scalp everyone wants and without a major overhaul and an injection of bottle i can see us shitting it
Title: Re: How many games will we win next season?
Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 16, 2016, 11:32:42 PM
We'll be screwed if we only manage 4 points next season!
Title: Re: How many games will we win next season?
Post by: CT on April 16, 2016, 11:40:54 PM
If the five parasites are still here, no more than ten.

If they're gone, then more than 20.
Title: Re: How many games will we win next season?
Post by: passport1 on April 16, 2016, 11:53:20 PM
What's a win?
Title: Re: How many games will we win next season?
Post by: Skerra on April 16, 2016, 11:59:38 PM
Thinking with my head and, not my heart. If we don't shift the bulk of the current squad, I think we'll be flirting with relegation but, stop up by the skin of our teeth. If we get some decent players in, I think we could have a good shot at promotion but, for that to happen, we need a complete change of culture at our great Club.
Title: Re: How many games will we win next season?
Post by: Villa in Denmark on April 17, 2016, 12:11:02 AM
There will only be TWO " MUST WIN " games !
The ones at the end April to confirm promotion as champions?
Title: Re: How many games will we win next season?
Post by: Louzie0 on April 17, 2016, 12:18:48 AM
What's a win?

I've forgotten as well.
But I know we get three points for it!

Title: Re: How many games will we win next season?
Post by: Steve67 on April 17, 2016, 12:49:47 AM
Can we come back and answer this question on, say, September 1st?
Title: Re: How many games will we win next season?
Post by: West Derby Villan on April 17, 2016, 02:23:21 AM
Fuck the fuckers what ever it takes
Title: Re: How many games will we win next season?
Post by: West Derby Villan on April 17, 2016, 02:29:19 AM
And fuck em once more for luck
Title: Re: How many games will we win next season?
Post by: olaftab on April 17, 2016, 11:51:10 AM
And fuck em once more for luck
Elton John being a football man would say that's not for luck that's for fun.
Title: Re: How many games will we win next season?
Post by: HolmesyVilla on April 17, 2016, 11:55:22 AM
And fuck em once more for luck
Elton John being a football man would say that's not for luck that's for fun.

Well if we Kiki Dee football into the goal more times than the other team we shall win more than we lose
Title: Re: How many games will we win next season?
Post by: Risso on April 17, 2016, 11:58:09 AM
And fuck em once more for luck
Elton John being a football man would say that's not for luck that's for fun.

Well if we Kiki Dee football into the goal more times than the other team we shall win more than we lose

Very good.
Title: Re: How many games will we win next season?
Post by: Dave Cooper please on April 17, 2016, 02:52:19 PM
Twelvety
Title: Re: How many games will we win next season?
Post by: Des Little on April 17, 2016, 10:41:57 PM
Bakers dozen
Title: Re: How many games will we win next season?
Post by: lordmcgrath5 on April 19, 2016, 12:26:07 PM
As things stand, I can honestly see us winning five or even six games next season.
Title: Re: How many games will we win next season?
Post by: ozzjim on April 19, 2016, 12:48:49 PM
Going to change my answer. It was given in the knowledge we had a competent board structure for the first time in years. In light of them leaving, I will say 11. With 13 draws. The rest defeats. Does a point a game keep you in the championship? Does it matter?
Title: Re: How many games will we win next season?
Post by: Comrade Blitz on April 19, 2016, 01:01:07 PM
-7

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