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Title: Watching Villa next season
Post by: Risso on April 13, 2016, 02:11:46 PM
Other than the obvious answer of "get yourself down to Villa Park", what are the options for watching Villa next season?


For of those of us who live a distance away, and who wish to maintain our masochistic tendencies, how often are we going to see our march to automatic promotion/mid table mediocrity/League 1 (delete as applicable).


At the moment, I get to see games on hookie internet sites at the weekend, plus of course Sky when games are live, then highlights on MOTD or Sky.


What are we going to be restricted to next season, as I have until now, taken no interest in the Football League and how often their games are shown live or on what channels.



Title: Re: Watching Villa next season
Post by: Dave Javu on April 13, 2016, 02:37:12 PM
Live games on Sky Friday nights 1945 and Saturday 1230. Channel 5 weekly highlights Saturday 9pm. I'm struggling to think of what I've watched on Ch5 ever,  apart from that highlights show on the odd occasion. What does Channel 5 actually do apart from that?

There's little point to dodgy streams, now
Title: Re: Watching Villa next season
Post by: Whiney MacWhineface on April 13, 2016, 02:50:12 PM
Sky splatters Championship fixtures all over the week, though from next season the PL is on Fridays so that may go.
Title: Re: Watching Villa next season
Post by: pauliewalnuts on April 13, 2016, 02:51:10 PM
A relative who supports a relegated-to-championship-recently side tells me that one of the worst things about it is no coverage on iffy web sites, and even worse, the Channel 5 coverage.
Title: Re: Watching Villa next season
Post by: CJ on April 13, 2016, 02:52:27 PM
MOTD may have many faults but that highlights programme on C5 is just plain awful.
Title: Re: Watching Villa next season
Post by: Malandro on April 13, 2016, 03:00:41 PM
Is there a similar service to teletext? I used to watch that for the full ninety minutes.

Waiting for the page with Villa to flick on was tense.
Title: Re: Watching Villa next season
Post by: Dr Butler on April 13, 2016, 03:11:03 PM
Is there a similar service to teletext? I used to watch that for the full ninety minutes.

Waiting for the page with Villa to flick on was tense.

you mean like this :)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-TrPuyBAttBE/T2s0_MfA8kI/AAAAAAAABNU/FAZDP6i_vz8/s1600/ceefaxsaintsrochdale2.JPG)

UTV
the Doc
Title: Re: Watching Villa next season
Post by: Walmley_Villa on April 13, 2016, 03:16:10 PM
I think the tube is about to go on your telly! You'd best contact Radio Rentals...
Title: Re: Watching Villa next season
Post by: adrenachrome on April 13, 2016, 03:16:37 PM
Dark glasses an drugz to the max fo sho.
Title: Re: Watching Villa next season
Post by: Malandro on April 13, 2016, 03:17:27 PM
Is there a similar service to teletext? I used to watch that for the full ninety minutes.

Waiting for the page with Villa to flick on was tense.

you mean like this :)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-TrPuyBAttBE/T2s0_MfA8kI/AAAAAAAABNU/FAZDP6i_vz8/s1600/ceefaxsaintsrochdale2.JPG)

UTV
the Doc

Perfect!
Title: Re: Watching Villa next season
Post by: Malandro on April 13, 2016, 03:20:13 PM
That's quite a good idea for an app,  change flash scores or something similar into old school teletext.
Title: Re: Watching Villa next season
Post by: Malandro on April 13, 2016, 03:21:33 PM
There's a Bamboozle app!
Title: Re: Watching Villa next season
Post by: PeterWithe on April 13, 2016, 03:24:15 PM
My Wolves mates reckon they have had 15 games moved for TV this season and that we will have even more moved as the biggest draw in the division. A positive of Newcastle and Sunderland coming with us is that may reduce and they'll be shown instead. They also reckon you can get D2 games on the iffy boxes but I've never tried.

Title: Re: Watching Villa next season
Post by: nuninho on April 13, 2016, 03:28:49 PM
Goals quite early on Sky Sports News from about 6pm on Saturday as well - is it Goals express?  Not sure if that only focuses on Div 1 / 2 only though.
Title: Re: Watching Villa next season
Post by: Walmley_Villa on April 13, 2016, 03:50:00 PM
On night games in the week SSN usually show the goals just after they happen. I'm sure you can pick up some streams for the Championship.
Title: Re: Watching Villa next season
Post by: WarszaVillan on April 13, 2016, 04:11:54 PM

A relative who supports a relegated-to-championship-recently side tells me that one of the worst things about it is no coverage on iffy web sites, and even worse, the Channel 5 coverage.

Surely all the games that are televised will be on the internet somewhere.
Title: Re: Watching Villa next season
Post by: Dave on April 13, 2016, 04:32:31 PM
Surely all the games that are televised will be on the internet somewhere.

You'd expect so, it's just that not many of them will be televised anywhere other than the UK. In the Premier League, if it's not on Sky/BT then it'll be on Fox Sports, Bein, NBC or somebody similar so there will be a dodgy stream to follow.

If Villa vs Derby (for example) isn't a Sky match, it's unlikely that an Abu Dhabi TV station will be choosing to broadcast it instead.
Title: Re: Watching Villa next season
Post by: eamonn on April 13, 2016, 05:52:17 PM
Do Sky have a decent highlights show for the Championship (and not just the live games and goals express/when they happen thing on SkySportsNews) ?
Title: Re: Watching Villa next season
Post by: Steve67 on April 13, 2016, 07:36:06 PM
I reckon we'll be on the box a fair few times next season. 
Title: Re: Watching Villa next season
Post by: SoccerHQ on April 13, 2016, 08:20:28 PM
Surely all the games that are televised will be on the internet somewhere.

You'd expect so, it's just that not many of them will be televised anywhere other than the UK. In the Premier League, if it's not on Sky/BT then it'll be on Fox Sports, Bein, NBC or somebody similar so there will be a dodgy stream to follow.

If Villa vs Derby (for example) isn't a Sky match, it's unlikely that an Abu Dhabi TV station will be choosing to broadcast it instead.

The 3pm Championship game that Five pick as their main game for the highlights show usually has a stream, I somehow found a Wigan-Rochdale stream a few weeks back as it was the main game on the show.

I think we'll be on TV a decent amount, correct me if I'm wrong but Leeds have been on TV around 15 times this season.

What will have next to no coverage will be our frequent midweek games home and away. It will be like the early rounds of the carling cup, think back to the Notts County game this season.
Title: Re: Watching Villa next season
Post by: Ads on April 13, 2016, 08:21:48 PM
The Aston Villa Channel/Sky Sports 1 will be showing us at 12:00 every Saturday I would imagine.
Title: Re: Watching Villa next season
Post by: Jon Crofts on April 13, 2016, 08:23:37 PM
I'm banking on the fact that the Head Of Sky Sport is a massive Villa fan and therefore we will be on a fair bit!
Title: Re: Watching Villa next season
Post by: UK Redsox on April 13, 2016, 08:27:09 PM
Does George Riley still present the Five highlights show?

I rate him as a presenter (especially on radio) but the programme itself is poor
Title: Re: Watching Villa next season
Post by: Ads on April 13, 2016, 08:28:43 PM
I'm banking on the fact that the Head Of Sky Sport is a massive Villa fan and therefore we will be on a fair bit!

As a match goer I hope not!
Title: Re: Watching Villa next season
Post by: The Man With A Stick on April 13, 2016, 08:33:02 PM
I'll be watching us on Central Match Live presented by Tony Francis and Greavsie.  Christ, it used to be Derby v Leicester or Wolves v Swindon every pissing week on that.
Title: Re: Watching Villa next season
Post by: Toronto Villa on April 13, 2016, 08:45:09 PM
I'm subscribing to Bein Sports. they have live Championship games and a pretty comprehensive Championship package for what I can tell. I also get Spanish football in that. Means I'll watch a lot less PL football, which is a plus for a year*


* I hope
Title: Re: Watching Villa next season
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on April 13, 2016, 09:06:14 PM
Do Sky have a decent highlights show for the Championship (and not just the live games and goals express/when they happen thing on SkySportsNews) ?

There's a magazine type show on Skysports think its on a Monday.  I have visions of Gavin presenting it from the sky sports cafe with Birtles co presenting.
Title: Re: Watching Villa next season
Post by: Rudy65 on April 13, 2016, 09:10:28 PM
I'm subscribing to Bein Sports. they have live Championship games and a pretty comprehensive Championship package for what I can tell. I also get Spanish football in that. Means I'll watch a lot less PL football, which is a plus for a year*


* I hope

That begs another question, will we all bother watching the prem as we have no interest? I will but not so much
Title: Re: Watching Villa next season
Post by: Dante Lavelli on April 13, 2016, 09:20:01 PM
Didn't Leeds refuse Sky access to the stadium this season because they were so fed up with their matches being moved for TV?
I'd imagine that will be us next season.
Title: Re: Watching Villa next season
Post by: Lizz on April 13, 2016, 10:19:08 PM
A relative hasn't had a season ticket for a few years, family commitments etc. For some strange reason he's actually excited about next season and will get a ST.
Title: Re: Watching Villa next season
Post by: supertom on April 13, 2016, 10:27:36 PM
I'm subscribing to Bein Sports. they have live Championship games and a pretty comprehensive Championship package for what I can tell. I also get Spanish football in that. Means I'll watch a lot less PL football, which is a plus for a year*


* I hope

That begs another question, will we all bother watching the prem as we have no interest? I will but not so much
I'll only watch if teams like Leicester continue to upset the order.
If it ends up returning to a same old, same old top four shitting all over the rest I probably won't bother. And as far as comical falls from grace I can't see a selection of big clubs falling through the trap door like this season. It'll likely be normal service next season with smaller clubs or promoted clubs fighting the drop and eventually falling.
Title: Re: Watching Villa next season
Post by: DeKuip on April 13, 2016, 10:36:06 PM
You'll just have to walk round with your fingers in your ears and avoid the scores until the end of season Cine film and LP come out.
Title: Re: Watching Villa next season
Post by: Toronto Villa on April 14, 2016, 02:06:34 AM
I'm subscribing to Bein Sports. they have live Championship games and a pretty comprehensive Championship package for what I can tell. I also get Spanish football in that. Means I'll watch a lot less PL football, which is a plus for a year*


* I hope

That begs another question, will we all bother watching the prem as we have no interest? I will but not so much

I just don't have the time personally, so I will only make the point to watch us. I'll watch the PL if by some miracle I happen across it but I won't go looking for it if that makes sense
Title: Re: Watching Villa next season
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on April 14, 2016, 05:38:38 AM
Maybe AVTV will broadcast all the full games afterwards. Just like they could have done in the Premier League but chose not to.

Nah.
Title: Re: Watching Villa next season
Post by: Matt C on April 14, 2016, 06:57:04 AM
I'm subscribing to Bein Sports. they have live Championship games and a pretty comprehensive Championship package for what I can tell. I also get Spanish football in that. Means I'll watch a lot less PL football, which is a plus for a year*


* I hope

Make that two of us. They seem to show a few Championship games every week so looks like the best bet from here.
Title: Re: Watching Villa next season
Post by: London Villan on April 14, 2016, 07:36:36 AM
With the big teams in Division 2 there might be a bit more interest. Us and the two north east clubs both have big followings, add that to leeds, sheff wed, wolves. Those 6 alone will have bugger gates than a number if premier league teams.
Title: Re: Watching Villa next season
Post by: martin o`who?? on April 14, 2016, 07:43:50 AM
Will hopefully be a lot less painful that it has been over the previous 5 - but don't bet on it........
Title: Re: Watching Villa next season
Post by: UK Redsox on April 14, 2016, 08:38:30 AM
With the big teams in Division 2 there might be a bit more interest. Us and the two north east clubs both have big followings, add that to leeds, sheff wed, wolves. Those 6 alone will have bugger gates than a number if premier league teams.

Remind me not to use those gates  ;)
Title: Re: Watching Villa next season
Post by: German James on April 14, 2016, 09:09:57 AM
Maybe AVTV will broadcast all the full games afterwards. Just like they could have done in the Premier League but chose not to.

Nah.

I don't understand this, either. When all games in the top two divisions are filmed for television, why a) are they not made available to the clubs to show live? and, b) does our club not at least show them after they've finished? It would be (yet) another revenue stream and greatly reduce the need for dodgy streams. I know the answer is "it's a rights issue", but surely that could be overcome in a heartbeat, if there was enough money involved?
Title: Re: Watching Villa next season
Post by: placeforparks on April 14, 2016, 11:36:13 AM
A relative hasn't had a season ticket for a few years, family commitments etc. For some strange reason he's actually excited about next season and will get a ST.

if the club cut them to £200 to fill the ground and did deals for kids as well, i think a lot of people would be tempted to come back.

whether the club can see that far ahead, given it's been one PR disaster after another with the fans in recent years, is another thing...
Title: Re: Watching Villa next season
Post by: Proposition Joe on April 14, 2016, 11:47:50 AM
With the big teams in Division 2 there might be a bit more interest. Us and the two north east clubs both have big followings, add that to leeds, sheff wed, wolves. Those 6 alone will have bugger gates than a number if premier league teams.

Remind me not to use those gates  ;)

'S OK, it's New Zealand for 'bigger' :)

As for the main topic, us loyal dedicated dodgy 3pm Saturday stream users abroad will be s.o.l next season and will probably only be able to see the games that are also on UK telly.

There used to be an obscure channel here in Germany that showed the Championship but I don't believe it does any more, and I can't remember its name any more either.

Is there any online resource that tells you for all the broadcasting rights up for tender which companies in which countries own them?

And after the revolution "rights restrictions" will be first against the wall.

Title: Re: Watching Villa next season
Post by: German James on April 14, 2016, 12:01:23 PM
Is there any online resource that tells you for all the broadcasting rights up for tender which companies in which countries own them?

This? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_League_Championship#International)
Title: Re: Watching Villa next season
Post by: in exile on April 14, 2016, 02:27:11 PM
beIN Sports is not available here, only in Middle East, Africa, USA, Canada, France, Australia & Spain as far as I can make out.
Very rare to see Championship games streamed from the usual sites 
Title: Re: Watching Villa next season
Post by: CT Villan on April 14, 2016, 02:31:24 PM
Make that two of us. They seem to show a few Championship games every week so looks like the best bet from here.

They do a pretty decent job too, especially when Terri Leigh is on...and Ray Hudson is fun to listen to.
Title: Re: Watching Villa next season
Post by: Rupert on April 14, 2016, 02:42:08 PM
now that i,ve come terms with fact that we are down,i,m looking forward to next season and will get a s.t for the first time in 5 years.
Title: Re: Watching Villa next season
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on April 14, 2016, 06:23:43 PM
Maybe AVTV will broadcast all the full games afterwards. Just like they could have done in the Premier League but chose not to.

Nah.

I don't understand this, either. When all games in the top two divisions are filmed for television, why a) are they not made available to the clubs to show live? and, b) does our club not at least show them after they've finished? It would be (yet) another revenue stream and greatly reduce the need for dodgy streams. I know the answer is "it's a rights issue", but surely that could be overcome in a heartbeat, if there was enough money involved?

FYI they ARE available for clubs who care about showing the full games to their fans. Chelsea and Man City for example show every game in full on their sites 24 hours after the game. Even Aston Villa games are available in full here in the USA on Spanish TV using the same footage AVTV does. There is no rights limit. Just our club doesn't think its worth the effort to do it.

Sadly I assume they will continue with the "not worth us bothering" philosophy in the Championship. Pretty annoying when that footage is there available to them and ready to use.

Title: Re: Watching Villa next season
Post by: German James on April 14, 2016, 06:40:29 PM
Maybe AVTV will broadcast all the full games afterwards. Just like they could have done in the Premier League but chose not to.

Nah.

I don't understand this, either. When all games in the top two divisions are filmed for television, why a) are they not made available to the clubs to show live? and, b) does our club not at least show them after they've finished? It would be (yet) another revenue stream and greatly reduce the need for dodgy streams. I know the answer is "it's a rights issue", but surely that could be overcome in a heartbeat, if there was enough money involved?

FYI they ARE available for clubs who care about showing the full games to their fans. Chelsea and Man City for example show every game in full on their sites 24 hours after the game. Even Aston Villa games are available in full here in the USA on Spanish TV using the same footage AVTV does. There is no rights limit. Just our club doesn't think its worth the effort to do it.

Sadly I assume they will continue with the "not worth us bothering" philosophy in the Championship. Pretty annoying when that footage is there available to them and ready to use.



If they simply choose not to do it, that's extraordinary behaviour!
Title: Re: Watching Villa next season
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on April 14, 2016, 06:47:39 PM
Maybe AVTV will broadcast all the full games afterwards. Just like they could have done in the Premier League but chose not to.

Nah.

I don't understand this, either. When all games in the top two divisions are filmed for television, why a) are they not made available to the clubs to show live? and, b) does our club not at least show them after they've finished? It would be (yet) another revenue stream and greatly reduce the need for dodgy streams. I know the answer is "it's a rights issue", but surely that could be overcome in a heartbeat, if there was enough money involved?

FYI they ARE available for clubs who care about showing the full games to their fans. Chelsea and Man City for example show every game in full on their sites 24 hours after the game. Even Aston Villa games are available in full here in the USA on Spanish TV using the same footage AVTV does. There is no rights limit. Just our club doesn't think its worth the effort to do it.

Sadly I assume they will continue with the "not worth us bothering" philosophy in the Championship. Pretty annoying when that footage is there available to them and ready to use.



If they simply choose not to do it, that's extraordinary behaviour!

Here you go. I have watched the games in full when we lose them. here is Chelsea's.

http://www.chelseafc.com/videos/about-chelsea-tv.html

"- Full match replays and extended highlights of every game"
Title: Re: Watching Villa next season
Post by: Proposition Joe on April 14, 2016, 07:41:57 PM
Is there any online resource that tells you for all the broadcasting rights up for tender which companies in which countries own them?

This? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_League_Championship#International)

Thanks! Sportdigital is the German company. I can get them on cable so maybe next season I can watch Die Eston Willa Birminghams on a real TV.
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