Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: kippaxvilla2 on April 06, 2016, 09:42:07 AM
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I've stolen this from elsewhere.
Ie when do they expire....
When you break it down it doesn't look AS bad. With the exception of Westwood and Richards of course. What were they thinking.
I'd like to think we could ship out the 2016 and 2017 expiries the 2018 and beyond ones might be more of a challenge.
2016 - Richardson, N'Zogbia, Kinsella, Donacien, Robinson, Calder
2017 - Guzan, Okore, Bennett, Lescott, Hutton, Kozak, Bunn, Lyden
2018 - Agbonlahor, Sanchez, Grealish, Cissokho, Gardner, Crespo
2019 - Baker, Richards, Gueye, Sinclair, Gil, Steer
2020 - Clarke, Bacuna, Westwood, Veretout, Ayew, Traore, Amavi, Gestede
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2020 for Bacuna , at least we can hold out for big money for him
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Oh yeh forgot about him.
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I've stolen this from elsewhere.
Ie when do they expire....
When you break it down it doesn't look AS bad. With the exception of Westwood and Richards of course. What were they thinking.
I'd like to think we could ship out the 2016 and 2017 expiries the 2018 and beyond ones might be more of a challenge.
2016 - Richardson, N'Zogbia, Kinsella, Donacien, Robinson, Calder. Thank god
2017 - Guzan, Okore, Bennett, Lescott, Hutton, Kozak, Bunn, Lyden. Guzan, maybe MLS, Okore will find the exit door for himself,
2018 - Agbonlahor, Sanchez, Grealish, Cissokho, Gardner, Crespo. Sanchez and Cissokho could maybe move to Spain or Portugal, the pace of the game would certainly suit Sanchez better
2019 - Baker, Richards, Gueye, Sinclair, Gil, Steer. You've got to hope that he'll find the exit door for himself.
2020 - Clarke, Bacuna, Westwood, Veretout, Ayew, Traore, Amavi, Gestede. Unfortunately the one's we'd most like to keep are the ones most likely to attract interest.
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When you consider Robinson scores goals in the Championship it is a bit of a concern he might go this summer especially given the folly of the Bacuna deal.
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Did we sell Crespo, or has he just gone out on loan?
If he's still ours, I actually think he might be worth keeping hold of for the Championship.
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Did we sell Crespo, or has he just gone out on loan?
If he's still ours, I actually think he might be worth keeping hold of for the Championship.
What have you seen in him that brings you to this conclusion?
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Did we sell Crespo, or has he just gone out on loan?
If he's still ours, I actually think he might be worth keeping hold of for the Championship.
What have you seen in him that brings you to this conclusion?
it's more about what I've seen in the defenders that we didn't ship-out on loan!
But in all seriousness, his versatility is a big plus and, aside from lacking a bit of pace (which wouldn't be as evident in the Championship) I actually think he looked ok as a full-back. Was all at sea when Sherwood tried him as part of a back 3, but actually looked like he was attempting to communicate with, and organise, his team-mates.
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When you consider Robinson scores goals in the Championship it is a bit of a concern he might go this summer especially given the folly of the Bacuna deal.
He's scored two. I'd give a year or two extension but he's hardly tearing the league up.
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Did we sell Crespo, or has he just gone out on loan?
If he's still ours, I actually think he might be worth keeping hold of for the Championship.
What have you seen in him that brings you to this conclusion?
the beard will see him through a cold tuesday night in rotherham.
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there were a few clubs in for richards on a free, he was in a strong negotiating position. you'd think he would have something in his contract which would allow him to go in the event of relegation.
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When you consider Robinson scores goals in the Championship it is a bit of a concern he might go this summer especially given the folly of the Bacuna deal.
He's scored two. I'd give a year or two extension but he's hardly tearing the league up.
Two is pretty good by our standards!
Didn't realise it was that low. Oh well worth keeping though I think.
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You say its not 'AS bad'.
But remember for every player on 30K per week that equates to £1.5m per year.
multiply that by the number of shit players, its still a whole lot of dosh leaking out.
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Holding on to youth players is a tricky business. On the one hand, you may have them before they're ready - look at the likes of Afobe, who I think left Arsenal and basically tore up the lower divisions, which I'd like to think is where our new superstar striker is going to come from; on the other, you give them a bumper contract on the inkling they'll continue to develop and you end up with nothing more than a squad player.
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From the 2017 expiries onwards I reckon that's about £42m per annum based on an average wage of £30k per week. How much will we lose in revenue per annum?!
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Did you also steal info about the percentage of wage-cuts in our useless set of players' relegation clauses? Surely Panama has that intel.
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When you consider Robinson scores goals in the Championship it is a bit of a concern he might go this summer especially given the folly of the Bacuna deal.
He's scored two. I'd give a year or two extension but he's hardly tearing the league up.
Apart from his first spell at Preston when he was very popular with the fans he has done very little. Pity I thought he had a good chance of breaking through.
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I don't think it matters, I think most will want to go anyway
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Gabby and Sinclair are the ones on big money we won't be able to shift.
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I think Sinclair will be fine in the Championship.
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I think Sinclair will be fine in the Championship.
Yeah, Burton Albion should put a bid in for him.
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Can't help but think that if we hadn't wasted £2m on rebranding we could have paid off at least one of these losers.
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Can't help but think that if we hadn't wasted £2m on rebranding we could have paid off at least one of these losers.
Apart from according to the club it cost £80k, not £2m. So basically about two weeks wages for Gabby. Nowhere near enough to pay off anyone.
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-confirm-club-crest-11148401
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Hutton has gone 26 league games without a win. Let's hope he leaves 2016 rather than 2017
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I've obviously been in too many dull meetings, but I'd imagine the wages budget and the marketing budget are in two seperate 'pots'.
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I think we'll sell anyone that can be sold. I don't think anyone, including Grealish, is safe. Some players won't accept the pay cut that comes with relegation, others will think they're too good for that league.
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I think we'll sell anyone that can be sold. I don't think anyone, including Grealish, is safe. Some players won't accept the pay cut that comes with relegation, others will think they're too good for that league.
They may not have a choice. Their wages are in their contracts, so "not accepting it" isn't really an option unless somebody wants to buy them. Then it comes down to how much the club are offered.
If somebody were to offer us £6/7/8m for the likes of Ayew or Gana then we'd probably take the money. If somebody offers us £1/2/3m for then, then I expect we'd choose to hold onto them.
See the likes of Hull - I reckon that had somebody better come in for likes of Hernandez, Diame, Huddlestone, Dawson, and they'd offered Hull enough to make them want to sell then they'd probably have left. But they didn't, so they're still there.
Also, for the ones that we'd have an interest in keeping, their reduced salaries probably are still likely to be more than they were earning prior to joining us - the likes of Gana and Amavi were earning between £15-20k per week in France.