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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: dave.woodhall on April 04, 2016, 12:19:33 AM

Title: The Press-ipice awaits
Post by: dave.woodhall on April 04, 2016, 12:19:33 AM: http://thebirminghampress.com/2016/04/close-to-the-edge/
Title: Re: The Press-ipice awaits
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on April 04, 2016, 12:24:32 AM: As Glenn Hoddle said this weekend, whoever takes over needs to get rid of some bad eggs before they can rebuild again. We all know who he means by that.
Title: Re: The Press-ipice awaits
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on April 04, 2016, 12:31:50 AM: Nice piece. I am relieved its going to be over early in a way. No hopes to be dashed, that was done in January.

I do hope this summer those players who do not want to be here, or seemingly actively dislike the club (why else play the way they do?) go away. I don't want to see them ever again in our shirt. Its a cliche but they simply do not deserve that honour.

minor typo on assembled fyi
Title: Re: The Press-ipice awaits
Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 04, 2016, 12:45:43 AM: Good article.

As an aside

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It was said that not one of the relegation side of 1987 would have got near the squad that conquered Europe five years earlier.

I remember hearing that a lot and never really getting it considering 5 of them were in the squad (ok counting Gary Shaw & Blair is a bit iffy!), Walters, Keown and Dorigo were no slouches, neither was hodge even if he was a wanker. Daley as well wouldn't have been far off the squad.
Title: Re: The Press-ipice awaits
Post by: dave.woodhall on April 04, 2016, 12:51:09 AM: Quote from: PeterWithesShin on April 04, 2016, 12:45:43 AM
Good article.

As an aside

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It was said that not one of the relegation side of 1987 would have got near the squad that conquered Europe five years earlier.

I remember hearing that a lot and never really getting it considering 5 of them were in the squad (ok counting Gary Shaw & Blair is a bit iffy!), Walters, Keown and Dorigo were no slouches, neither was hodge even if he was a wanker. Daley as well wouldn't have been far off the squad.

They were decent players, or rather became decent (Walters excepted as he was at his best then) but at that time none of them were in the same class.
Title: Re: The Press-ipice awaits
Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 04, 2016, 12:58:08 AM: They were probably better than Donovan, Bullivant, Heard and Linton as examples. I know it's nit picking but this is the internet.
Title: Re: The Press-ipice awaits
Post by: ChicagoLion on April 04, 2016, 03:34:08 AM: Very well put.
Is there any hope that this disgraceful bunch of players ever get to see or hear the utter contempt that We have for them?
Title: Re: The Press-ipice awaits
Post by: pbavfckuwait on April 04, 2016, 05:01:33 AM: Hits the nail on the head Dave, especially with the task of whoever comes in, this is my major concern because if we cannot get some of this lot and by that the ones that need to go, Richards, Gabby et al, I see just more despair.
Title: Re: The Press-ipice awaits
Post by: Ron Manager on April 04, 2016, 05:07:26 AM: Close to the edge mmm yes.Close to the edge of obscurity unless Mr Lerner has finally
found a buyer to offload the club to.The future looks distinctly bleak at this present
moment.
Title: Re: The Press-ipice awaits
Post by: levico on April 04, 2016, 10:00:18 AM: Can't argue with that but let's hope Moyes doesn't read it.
Title: Re: The Press-ipice awaits
Post by: mrfuse on April 04, 2016, 02:45:46 PM: Quote from: Ron Manager on April 04, 2016, 05:07:26 AM
Close to the edge mmm yes.Close to the edge of obscurity unless Mr Lerner has finally
found a buyer to offload the club to.The future looks distinctly bleak at this present
moment.

Well Im hoping that the recent appointments off the field will steady the ship and hopefully get the right man in charge, which for me is also Moyes.
Okay if it was to be him he would have his work cut out, but he also needs to rebuild his own reputation and I think he could achieve that with us.

Good article again Dave.
Title: Re: The Press-ipice awaits
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on April 04, 2016, 03:02:53 PM: Good, honest article Mr Woodhall.

The comments about the current crop of Villa "players" are pretty damning yet totally deserved.
The clear-out has started at the top, let's hope - even allowing for contracts etc - that we can move some of these so-called "professional footballers" on...to somewhere else...just anywhere else!
Title: Re: The Press-ipice awaits
Post by: Jon Crofts on April 04, 2016, 03:08:28 PM: Frighteningly accurate. Let's face it, who'd want the Villa job in these circumstances?
Title: Re: The Press-ipice awaits
Post by: Richard E on April 04, 2016, 03:19:05 PM: Quote from: Jon Crofts on April 04, 2016, 03:08:28 PM
Frighteningly accurate. Let's face it, who'd want the Villa job in these circumstances?

Oh, I dunno, you do it for 4-8 months and then get a six-figure payoff with no expectations of achieving anything worthwhile in the intervening period. Sounds like not a bad gig to me.
Title: Re: The Press-ipice awaits
Post by: darren woolley on April 04, 2016, 05:20:21 PM: Spot on Dave.
Title: Re: The Press-ipice awaits
Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 04, 2016, 05:58:20 PM: Quote from: Jon Crofts on April 04, 2016, 03:08:28 PM
Frighteningly accurate. Let's face it, who'd want the Villa job in these circumstances?

Anyone that wants to earn at least a million quid for starters.
Title: Re: The Press-ipice awaits
Post by: gpbarr on April 04, 2016, 08:43:49 PM: Quote from: PeterWithesShin on April 04, 2016, 05:58:20 PM
Quote from: Jon Crofts on April 04, 2016, 03:08:28 PM
Frighteningly accurate. Let's face it, who'd want the Villa job in these circumstances?

Anyone that wants to earn at least a million quid for starters.

Too simplistic, especially when management opportunities come and go with alarming frequency. There will be at least 4-5 so called big jobs requiring managers in the next 6-8 weeks, all paying very good money. If I were a gifted manager, I'd be paying close attention to a lot more things than my bank account.
Title: Re: The Press-ipice awaits
Post by: Drummond on April 05, 2016, 12:03:11 AM: The thing is, even a month ago I'd have agreed it's a shit job, but now, with the changes Hollis has made, there's genuine hope.

Plenty of managers will fancy it, if you can turn this ship round, it sets you up massively. Get it wrong and you can blame what you inherited.

I just don't see us making the same mistakes now.
Title: Re: The Press-ipice awaits
Post by: gpbarr on April 05, 2016, 01:16:58 PM: Quote from: Drummond on April 05, 2016, 12:03:11 AM
The thing is, even a month ago I'd have agreed it's a shit job, but now, with the changes Hollis has made, there's genuine hope.

Plenty of managers will fancy it, if you can turn this ship round, it sets you up massively. Get it wrong and you can blame what you inherited.

I just don't see us making the same mistakes now.

I do
Title: Re: The Press-ipice awaits
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on April 05, 2016, 01:20:59 PM: We've got a lunatic in charge with a proven track record for consistently making dreadful decisions. Doesn't matter who is employed beneath him, the fish rots from the head.
Title: Re: The Press-ipice awaits
Post by: LeeS on April 05, 2016, 01:50:12 PM: It has just dawned on me, we are actually going down. I knew it was coming but somehow it didn't seem real before.

Oh fuck