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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Legion on March 29, 2016, 10:53:34 AM
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Club Statement (http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~5453955,00.html)
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Aston Villa Football Club confirmed today that former FA Executive Adrian Bevington is now working with the Club.
Bevington will work with David Bernstein and the Football Board as part of the current review and to implement the changes that arise from it.
David Bernstein said: "Adrian has a wealth of experience with over 20 years working at the highest level of football.
"He was the Managing Director of Club England and worked with many managers and coaches during his 17 years at The FA.
"More recently he has worked with several Clubs and the Welsh FA, and I'm convinced his experience, contacts and understanding of football will be a tremendous asset to Aston Villa Football Club."
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I hope we shouldn't read too much into the Wels FA connection. I really don't fancy Coleman.
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He's been working at Boro most recently.
Another decent appointment I think.
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And yet Riley remains in post.
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I think the clock is ticking on that one.
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When do we reach the point when we've made too many appointments at board/executive level? Heavens knows we've been missing leadership and relevant experience at the top of the club, but the proverbial too many cooks is now coming to mind.
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I'd just like to be the first to say that this is a master stroke that shows that we're now back on the right track and / or further damning evidence of what our once great club has now become.
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Another good addition to a now strong board.
Any new manager will surely receive a higher level of backing infrastructure now
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Patron of Sporting Memories and I'm reliably informed a good bloke. Massive Boro fan, it's a sign of how far this once great club has etc....
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When do we reach the point when we've made too many appointments at board/executive level? Heavens knows we've been missing leadership and relevant experience at the top of the club, but the proverbial too many cooks is now coming to mind.
A case of throwing lots of mud at a wall and hoping some of it sticks? Who knows, at least these are people with footballing experience. We could employ another 10 of them but as long as we start getting our shit together it wont bother me. I think it's a sign that the rudderless chaos is at an end myself.
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Can't say I've ever heard of him but it does look like another decent piece of the jigsaw of club re-structuring - someone with experience in running the game and with good contacts. Doesn't say whether it's a permanent appointment, just 'working with the club', maybe on a short term basis like Sir Brian until they get the new 'business model' in place and sort out who's the best manager for the short/medium term.
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shame Holis was not as prolific signing players in January
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And yet Riley remains in post.
I think this is because they haven't found him, or can't afford to fly to Australia to sack him.
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I think it's another good appointment that will help signal to any prospective new manager that we're serious about fixing the club.
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I recognise the name but can't say I know a great deal about him. He's been in the game long enough so he's got the experience which his good.
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We're gonna need a bigger car park. Didn't he follow Faulkner to Forest?
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With this many cooks, the broth is bound to be delicious.
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He's well thought of in the game and if he can help sort out our appaling media relations so much the better.
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When do we reach the point when we've made too many appointments at board/executive level? Heavens knows we've been missing leadership and relevant experience at the top of the club, but the proverbial too many cooks is now coming to mind.
A case of throwing lots of mud at a wall and hoping some of it sticks? Who knows, at least these are people with footballing experience. We could employ another 10 of them but as long as we start getting our shit together it wont bother me. I think it's a sign that the rudderless chaos is at an end myself.
He's working with the board, not on the board, with what sounds like a very specific brief, just as Little is acting as advisor to the board. It takes more work to identify what changes are required and get them in place, along with recruiting the appropriate people, than to run the thing on a day to day basis.
Expect his involvement to be finished by Christmas at the latest and probably by the summer.
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Bevington is a lot younger than I thought. I assumed that he was up around Bernstein's age but he's only in his mid-forties
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From the way the statement is worded, sounds like he's more of an advisor like Sir Brian, rather than a permanent appointment. Probably makes sense, as the next and most important decision to make and get right is the choice of manager.
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He was doing a similar job at Notts Forest since last August , but stories surfaced this week that he had not been at the City Ground for some time. Their owner, Al Hasawi, is quoted as saying "I would like to deny recent reports that Adrian Bevington is no longer employed by me."
His strengths appear to be P.R & Communications, so if he does bring those to the Club , it´s not a moment too soon!........Godzvilla!
p.s..I think he also does Press Reviews on Talkshite.
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I'd just like to be the first to say that this is a master stroke that shows that we're now back on the right track and / or further damning evidence of what our once great club has now become.
I'd just like to add that this just adds to the farce and-or is the club is now free of farce and farcical intentions.
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He's already co-written one football book titled "Doom to Boom", maybe he's looking for material for a sequel.
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Considering the £25m spunked on Zog, I think a collection what appears to be "board level experienced english football people' to bring some kind of sanity to the proceedings.
From an organisational point of view, there should be legal, marketing, sales, stadium, supporter relations, ticketing, youth development, player liaison, transport, catering, safety and above all player/manager recruitment all handled with professionalism and experience.
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Do you think people call him Bevy for short ?
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So now after years of us saying that we need to appoint people with the relevant experience, we've appointed Hollis with vast experience of restructuring, King with vast experience of the financial sector, Bevington with vast experience of PR, Bernstein with vast experience of running football clubs and Little with a lifetime of football knowledge.
And the first reaction of some:
shame Holis was not as prolific signing players in January
And yet Riley remains in post.
Talk about finding negatives out of positives.
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Sounds like a sensible appointment.
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Do you think people call him Bevy for short ?
Makes it easier for the banners
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At the very least, next time one of these plodders contracts is coming to an end I have more faith that they now won't be given new 5 yr deals.
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Finally we're acting like a football club that's focused on football.
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It's either a sound appointment, or a job for the boys, but his knowledge and experience should take the club forward on a sounder base than for a long time. Just hope they appoint the right manager and Randy provides appropriate funding for new players and paying off those who need to go.
UTV
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We have all questioned the lack of football experience on the board of directors for some time, I have to say I am really impressed with the new Chairmans appointments to address this. Yes it may take a season in the Championship to sort out the football but at least we've got our house in order off the field.
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Making these boardroom appointments should get us back on an even keel faster but also help convince Garde's replacement that we actually want to operate as a professional football club again. Attracting someone like Moyes, a more established manager in the game, who had a very secure relationship with Kenwright for example might have taken more convincing if it was just Randy/Fox in charge of affairs. He might the consider the position more attractive now with a more convincing set up at the club backing his intentions and goals.
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I think Hollis is playing his part extremely well. He admitted he knew very little about running a football club, so he now has a section of the board to oversee all the football decisions, while he can concentrate on running the business side of the club.
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Making these boardroom appointments should get us back on an even keel faster but also help convince Garde's replacement that we actually want to operate as a professional football club again. Attracting someone like Moyes, a more established manager in the game, who had a very secure relationship with Kenwright for example might have taken more convincing if it was just Randy/Fox in charge of affairs. He might the consider the position more attractive now with a more convincing set up at the club backing his intentions and goals.
I agree
After the basket case decisions of recent years and managers not exactly being disappointed to get out, I think there is a lot of value in showing the next man in that the club has sorted itself out and will provide a stable footing from the boardroom down. Something a Moyes, or enticing another club's manager might well appreciate the value of.
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Hopefully his focus is on media & PR which he always seemed on top of with England. I know the incompetence of the club has made it easy but it has seemed that some journalists / publications have been almost too eager to bring bad news and push the poison - suggests all is not well betw media and club.
A fair percentage of our fan base get their info from the likes of the Mail or shudder at the thought WM so the club can't think it can do its PR through AVTV they need to engage the media, you never know one day we may see or hear something positive said.
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For the first time in many years the Club have made a series of appointments where there at least appears to be some experience and credibility that will be brought into the post by the new arrivals. For some two years (arguably) the Club has been up for Sale and many of the previous appointments have perhaps reflected a very short term plan (yes, it is possible that there may have been a plan in place - hard to believe I know) just to keep things ticking over.
For the fifth season in a row the team have been very poor and the "keeping things ticking over" has essentially meant, more of the same sub standard fare that has meant the Villa have, until now, remained in the Premeriership by a series of narrow margins.
Lets hope that a newly organised Villa can at least stop (a) Wasting huge sums of money (b) Actually start winining a few games and (c) Start to regain some of the respect that we have well and truly lost. I am sure that there are a (d) and an (e) and indeed plent of points through to a (z).
Indeed trying to get rid of some of our higher earning wasters will be a challenge it itself.
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On the comments Hollis made in a recent interview was that the club had essentially lost touch with the fans and that there was a real need to re-establish that connection. That and our black hole size void in PR that he has quickly identified as something that needed to addressed. Well done Mr Hollis
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If we could just play board against board we'd do a lot better. I'm starting to wonder who was the person who first mooted the idea of Hollis, and who then brought in Bevingtion. Bernstein? And who brought him in? King? it's all great and at the moment every appointment seems to be a positive step. but...I think in time we'll see Hollis relinquish the reigns as he was never fully committed to it it seems and he may be here to appoint those that he thinks should be put in place when he leaves. It makes sense of the advisory role given to Sir Bri and I think Bernstein will be the chairman going forward.
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the proof will be in the summer when we are preparing for life in the Championship and we have a new manager at the helm. The support that the board give him will indicate exactly how committed they are, but right now they have done a lot of very good things, needed things in short order. This has to go somewhere now, and once the dust has settled on the inquiry all we want is to see it transfer to results on the pitch. The board love-in will dissipate quickly if the manager isn't backed and the team (at a lower level) isn't winning.
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When do we reach the point when we've made too many appointments at board/executive level? Heavens knows we've been missing leadership and relevant experience at the top of the club, but the proverbial too many cooks is now coming to mind.
A case of throwing lots of mud at a wall and hoping some of it sticks? Who knows, at least these are people with footballing experience. We could employ another 10 of them but as long as we start getting our shit together it wont bother me. I think it's a sign that the rudderless chaos is at an end myself.
That's just what I was thinking. I'm getting more and more optimistic. The rebuilding of Aston Villa is genuinely looking like a promising and coherent plan. At last! Get this season out of the way get rid of the feckless tossers who have worn the famous shirt with zero pride. Bring in a dynamic hungry young manager and let the squad rebuilding begin
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He must be good, he's already got a road near the ground named after him.
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Adrian Avenue. I know it well.
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He must be good, he's already got a road near the ground named after him.
Spotters badge for you.
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If we could just play board against board we'd do a lot better. I'm starting to wonder who was the person who first mooted the idea of Hollis, and who then brought in Bevingtion. Bernstein? And who brought him in? King? it's all great and at the moment every appointment seems to be a positive step. but...I think in time we'll see Hollis relinquish the reigns as he was never fully committed to it it seems and he may be here to appoint those that he thinks should be put in place when he leaves. It makes sense of the advisory role given to Sir Bri and I think Bernstein will be the chairman going forward.
I've just read that Bevington has ambitions of being a club CEO. Maybe on the recommendation of Bernstein, he's been brought in to not only sort out the communication but get to know Hollis before any decision is made. Just a thought.
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From the way the statement is worded, sounds like he's more of an advisor like Sir Brian, rather than a permanent appointment. Probably makes sense, as the next and most important decision to make and get right is the choice of manager.
With all these Blazer appointments it wouldn't surprise me to see someone like Gareth Southgate given the job...
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From the way the statement is worded, sounds like he's more of an advisor like Sir Brian, rather than a permanent appointment. Probably makes sense, as the next and most important decision to make and get right is the choice of manager.
With all these Blazer appointments it wouldn't surprise me to see someone like Gareth Southgate given the job...
Southgate is contracted to the FA as U21 Manager until August. I'm not sure after he'll fancy a desk job, maybe fancies his chances back in club management.
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This is a really good appointment another well respected and knowledgable football administrator. Sets us up nicely for what will be an important season ... need to get things right and hit the ground running so we maximise our chances of an immediate return.
We may not be premier league next year but theres no reason on earth not to act like we are.
For me this sends out a very clear message Villa will be back stronger than before ... just need to sort the onfield staff and manager / coaching and scouting structures.
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the proof will be in the summer when we are preparing for life in the Championship and we have a new manager at the helm. The support that the board give him will indicate exactly how committed they are, but right now they have done a lot of very good things, needed things in short order. This has to go somewhere now, and once the dust has settled on the inquiry all we want is to see it transfer to results on the pitch. The board love-in will dissipate quickly if the manager isn't backed and the team (at a lower level) isn't winning.
Yep. All the appointments and dismissals have so far been in off the field positions. I will begin to have a lot more faith when smart moves impacting things on the field begin to be made.
Saying that, this is the kind of board we needed when a Randy first came to the club and money was available. We might have been genuine challengers had that been the case.
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There is something that just does not add up about all this board enlargement and restructuring. Something is going on.
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There is something that just does not add up about all this board enlargement and restructuring. Something is going on.
Is that good or bad?
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There is something that just does not add up about all this board enlargement and restructuring. Something is going on.
Enlargement in certain areas is never a bad thing
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There is something that just does not add up about all this board enlargement and restructuring. Something is going on.
Enlargement in certain areas is never a bad thing
Titter.
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After all these exciting new signings since January I am in cross minds what name to add to my shirt. King, Bevy, D. B. or Sir Brian?
Joking aside I bet the club shop has had terrible sales on shirt names, I bet there's shit loads of letters left.
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There is something that just does not add up about all this board enlargement and restructuring. Something is going on.
They're entering the 21st century.
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There's a large trailer behind the shop, which, I am reliably informed, contains nothing but unwanted Z's
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There is something that just does not add up about all this board enlargement and restructuring. Something is going on.
They're entering the 21st century.
Knowing our luck, the millennium bug will knock the fax machine out of action.
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There's a large trailer behind the shop, which, I am reliably informed, contains nothing but unwanted Z's
Zinedine Zidane as the next manager then......sorted
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After all these exciting new signings since January I am in cross minds what name to add to my shirt. King, Bevy, D. B. or Sir Brian?
Joking aside I bet the club shop has had terrible sales on shirt names, I bet there's shit loads of letters left.
Sir Brian Little all day!
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Straight from the 19th. Could explain it.
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So Steve Round, the bloke you was linked to joining us, David Moyes' former assistant has been having a very good chat with Mr Bevington. And is apparently impressed with the plans for the club.
Hmmm...
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So Steve Round, the bloke you was linked to joining us, David Moyes' former assistant has been having a very good chat with Mr Bevington. And is apparently impressed with the plans for the club.
Hmmm...
Where did you see that?
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There is something that just does not add up about all this board enlargement and restructuring. Something is going on.
They're entering the 21st century.
Knowing our luck, the millennium bug will knock the fax machine out of action.
Brilliant.
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So Steve Round, the bloke you was linked to joining us, David Moyes' former assistant has been having a very good chat with Mr Bevington. And is apparently impressed with the plans for the club.
Hmmm...
Where did you see that?
Here you go...
Round and Bevvo chat (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2016/04/01/steve-round-discloses-discussion-with-adrian-bevington-about-ast/)
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Interesting, hope there's some meaning there....
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He's gone.
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thanks for coming.
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Aston Villa Football Club can confirm today that Adrian Bevington has decided to leave his advisory position with the Club.
Bevington joined the Club to review and evaluate the managerial position and playing staff at Villa Park in March.
Aston Villa Chairman Steve Hollis said: "I'd like to place on record my thanks to Adrian for his contribution and professionalism.
"Over a short period of time, he has provided a great deal of football knowledge and experience - both to the Club and to me personally.
"Adrian gave me his word he would remain with the Club until the end of the season. Now that time has come we wish him well for the future with his various football commitments."
Adrian Bevington said: "I explained to Steve Hollis a few weeks ago that I would not be looking to take on a full-time role with the Club, but agreed to remain as an advisor until the end of the season.
"I know how hard Steve is working on a number of levels and I hope he can conclude the ownership and managerial positions very soon.
"I have enjoyed working with Steve and Brian Little - a man who clearly cares so much for the Club and will do everything he can to help it succeed.
"I'd also like to make particular reference to Eric Black. Eric has been a true professional to work with after taking on the manager's role in the most difficult circumstances.
"There is a huge amount of work ahead for Aston Villa FC. A Club of its size with its great support should be competing at the higher levels of the Premier League, not in the position it currently finds itself.
"To move forward, now more than ever, it is crucial the Club makes the right calls on the big decisions it is faced with.
"I wish everyone at Aston Villa FC and its supporters every success for the future."
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I don't know what we'd have done without him.
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So does 'the board' now consist just of Hollis, Sir Brian, Lerner and his pet General?
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Adrian Bevington said: "I explained to Steve Hollis a few weeks ago that I would not be looking to take on a full-time role with the Club, but agreed to remain as an advisor until the end of the season.
Ah wow thanks man, that is exactly the kind of commitment we required in the root of our club at this time for Aston Villa. Prick.
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So does 'the board' now consist just of Hollis, Sir Brian, Lerner and his pet General?
Brian Little is just an advisor not a fully fledged board member.
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Oh yeah, forgot that - so it's just Hollis and the Chuckle Brothers then?
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The board now consists of Hollis and he wont be here much longer. Lerner isn't on the board he's just the absentee owner and from what I've heard the General went back to Americaland a good while back.
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I wonder if Brian Little is hanging around?
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Seems that they are winding down more than losing people.
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Adrian Bevington said: "I explained to Steve Hollis a few weeks ago that I would not be looking to take on a full-time role with the Club, but agreed to remain as an advisor until the end of the season.
Ah wow thanks man, that is exactly the kind of commitment we required in the root of our club at this time for Aston Villa. Prick.
It was reported in the press that he was thought to be deliberating whether to continue his work with the club following the resignation debacle of Bernstein and King. Obviously decided (or was persuaded) to stay until the end of the season.
And then there was Brian. If Hollis doesn't pull the sale out of the bag soon it looks like he's had an absolute stinker. Certainly as far as appointments have gone anyway.
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Just had a look on the OS and it now shows the board as Lerner (owner), Hollis (chairman) and Krulak (director) with Doug as president emeritus, but as you say, in reality it's just Hollis
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Lerner has always been on the board.
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Yet Paddy Reilly is still in a job
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Glass is half full = big announcement will be made very soon, new owners who will bring in their own people, and manager, so Bevington is leaving before then anyway.
Glass is half empty = we're f**ked, Bevington stuck it out longer than King and Bernstein, but knows we are a sinking ship, there's only Hollis left, and he will probably leave next.
When does Tony Pulis start?
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Adrian Bevington said: "I explained to Steve Hollis a few weeks ago that I would not be looking to take on a full-time role with the Club, but agreed to remain as an advisor until the end of the season.
Ah wow thanks man, that is exactly the kind of commitment we required in the root of our club at this time for Aston Villa. Prick.
The bastard. Fancy doing exactly what he said he was going to do.
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I'd love to know the salaries etc this lot have taken.
No, on second thoughts I wouldn't. I'm still trying to get over Charles NZ.
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Adrian Bevington said: "I explained to Steve Hollis a few weeks ago that I would not be looking to take on a full-time role with the Club, but agreed to remain as an advisor until the end of the season.
Ah wow thanks man, that is exactly the kind of commitment we required in the root of our club at this time for Aston Villa. Prick.
The bastard. Fancy doing exactly what he said he was going to do.
Quite, Dave.
It appears as though a sale is very close but people are sceptical. The negative reaction to every bit of news is a bit OTT, though.
People have been brought in as advisors and these have been some of the most experienced people in the game. More than we could have hoped for in our situation. Certainly more than if they had been permanent appointments. Based on the past few years experience, I would say that this has been at the instigation of Hollis. It seems as though it is him that is driving this forward.
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Adrian Bevington said: "I explained to Steve Hollis a few weeks ago that I would not be looking to take on a full-time role with the Club, but agreed to remain as an advisor until the end of the season.
Ah wow thanks man, that is exactly the kind of commitment we required in the root of our club at this time for Aston Villa. Prick.
The bastard. Fancy doing exactly what he said he was going to do.
I know, hate those kind of people who make a promise and stick to it. We don't need those kind of people at the club.
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Devastating news
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I'd love to know the salaries etc this lot have taken.
No, on second thoughts I wouldn't. I'm still trying to get over Charles NZ.
...and of course, he'll go on his "proper" holiday now, still trousering £63,000 / week until the end of June.
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I'm reading this as the new owners will not require his services and making way for the takeover.
What I would like to know is when are they going to annouce Charles NZ has left? I've got a provisional booking on a brass band to play him out of the Bodymoor heath car park.
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How can it be read as anything other than, he agreed to be brought in until the end of the season, advise on the remit he was given, has now completed that and the time period he agreed ended on Sunday.
Infamy Infamy they've all got it in for me
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I'm taking this as the new owners are incoming. Therefore, who would he be 'advising' if he was to stay any longer!?
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I guess we will never know the impact or effect he had on the club. Since being taken on, I can see very little opportunity for him to affect anything.
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I wonder what exactly he was advising on, from March till now? He must have been involved in the takeover negotiations. What else would there be?
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I wonder what exactly he was advising on, from March till now? He must have been involved in the takeover negotiations. What else would there be?
I thought he was a Press / PR bloke.
Difficult to think of it as money well spent.
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Part of his statement , regarding the football side, this may have been given to him by Hollis to see who was worth keeping and who to get rid and not just down to their footballing ability, but also their characters.
New owners may have asked for a complete report on the playing staff as anyone from outside can see from the off field antics this season, the supposed split in the camps and the general shitness of the players, that all is not well in B6 and they may have wanted to know what it may cost them to cut the lumps out. If that was the case, it may lead to the believe whoever is coming in, may just may have an idea what they are doing, not like our present owner.
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Part of his statement , regarding the football side, this may have been given to him by Hollis to see who was worth keeping and who to get rid and not just down to their footballing ability, but also their characters.
New owners may have asked for a complete report on the playing staff as anyone from outside can see from the off field antics this season, the supposed split in the camps and the general shitness of the players, that all is not well in B6 and they may have wanted to know what it may cost them to cut the lumps out. If that was the case, it may lead to the believe whoever is coming in, may just may have an idea what they are doing, not like our present owner.
thats cleared that up then.
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Aston Villa Football Club can confirm today that Adrian Bevington has decided to leave his advisory position with the Club.
Bevington joined the Club to review and evaluate the managerial position and playing staff at Villa Park in March.
The above copied from the statement, so yes it may have cleared things up Chicago, especially from those asking what his remit was, any clearer.
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Part of his statement , regarding the football side, this may have been given to him by Hollis to see who was worth keeping and who to get rid and not just down to their footballing ability, but also their characters.
New owners may have asked for a complete report on the playing staff as anyone from outside can see from the off field antics this season, the supposed split in the camps and the general shitness of the players, that all is not well in B6 and they may have wanted to know what it may cost them to cut the lumps out. If that was the case, it may lead to the believe whoever is coming in, may just may have an idea what they are doing, not like our present owner.
It's possible. Or maybe Bevington very quickly realised what a bunch of loonies he was working for and couldn't wait for our sorry season to be over to get away from the mentalists. Not sure which scenario is more likely
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I wonder what exactly he was advising on, from March till now? He must have been involved in the takeover negotiations. What else would there be?
I thought he was a Press / PR bloke.
Difficult to think of it as money well spent.
From the club statement........Bevington joined the Club to review and evaluate the managerial position and playing staff at Villa Park in March.
As the new owners are nigh I'd say that he has completed his review and has left a dossier for the new owners, which consists of one line........sack the fucking lot of them.
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sadly, I fear you are right
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I wonder what exactly he was advising on, from March till now? He must have been involved in the takeover negotiations. What else would there be?
I thought he was a Press / PR bloke.
Difficult to think of it as money well spent.
From the club statement........Bevington joined the Club to review and evaluate the managerial position and playing staff at Villa Park in March.
As the new owners are nigh I'd say that he has completed his review and has left a dossier for the new owners, which consists of one line........sack the fucking lot of them.
As anybody who has bought a house will know until somebody signs the contract then nothing is happening.
As for Bevington he gave his word to stay till the end of the season but simply doesn't want to hang around. The point is at the moment we don't have a manager and there is nobody to advise on football matters as there is nobody who can act on that advise at the moment.
The consequences of a deal breaking down is becoming unthinkable, which is presumably why the club will have a deadline by which they will have to get a new manager, but who would come under the current situation. It is also a great bargaining tool on the price as Lerner is in such a weak position.
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Aston Villa Football Club can confirm today that Adrian Bevington has decided to leave his advisory position with the Club.
Bevington joined the Club to review and evaluate the managerial position and playing staff at Villa Park in March.
The above copied from the statement, so yes it may have cleared things up Chicago, especially from those asking what his remit was, any clearer.
your above posts suggests that the club paid Bevington to give information about the club to people that may or may not buy the club.Which I think is unlikely.
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[The consequences of a deal breaking down is becoming unthinkable, which is presumably why the club will have a deadline by which they will have to get a new manager, but who would come under the current situation. It is also a great bargaining tool on the price as Lerner is in such a weak position.
Or you could play it the other way. The longer Lerner leaves it, the less time the new owners would have to get ready for next season. Therefore it would be in their interest to agree as soon as possible which may lead to the price going up. Big proviso though is that the deal does not collapse.
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I wonder what exactly he was advising on, from March till now? He must have been involved in the takeover negotiations. What else would there be?
I thought he was a Press / PR bloke.
Difficult to think of it as money well spent.
From the club statement........Bevington joined the Club to review and evaluate the managerial position and playing staff at Villa Park in March.
As the new owners are nigh I'd say that he has completed his review and has left a dossier for the new owners, which consists of one line........sack the fucking lot of them.
A glance at the league table would have given them a fair idea.
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I think there has been unusually a plan A and B. A sell the club and Plan B prepare for continuing without a sale. That was the reason for appointing the new board.
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Adrian Bevington said: "I explained to Steve Hollis a few weeks ago that I would not be looking to take on a full-time role with the Club, but agreed to remain as an advisor until the end of the season.
Ah wow thanks man, that is exactly the kind of commitment we required in the root of our club at this time for Aston Villa. Prick.
The bastard. Fancy doing exactly what he said he was going to do.
I know, hate those kind of people who make a promise and stick to it. We don't need those kind of people at the club.
My point is that we Need committment from anyone asociated with Villa. This guy didn't commit himself, he said it himself, he doesn't want to stay full time but he don't mind staying on for a couple more weeks picking up his 60k a week while still.working as an advisor to forest and Wales euro squad
That is why I called him a prick.
I got worse abuse than that for his boss if he wants it, and a smack in the gob for Reilly the master football player finder wouldn't go amiss either.
They fockin ruined us the bleepers.
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No again Chicago, maybe it is not clear enough.
He was asked by Hollis to review and evaluate the managerial position and playing staff in March, that dossier would have been given to Holis and maybe Holis from all his previous business dealings may have seen the requirement to have this available for the new owners, as it is quite obvious to anyone who wants to open their eyes, that the sale of the club was and is Holis main objective as given by the man child Lerner.
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One scenario is that Lerner was not going to sell and Bernstein, King, Bevington, Little et al were brought in to get the club in shape to go forward. He then decided to sell and that is why Bernstein and King departed (with a few choice words on the way out!)
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I assume Bevington was being paid handsomely to tell Hollis what was patently obvious. And in any case, his recommendations wouldn't apply to a new owner, who would get his own people to assess what is needed: a proper board with competent and experienced people, and some professional footballers who can, a) play football, and b) be arsed. In short, a complete overhaul.
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We will only know how good or bad a job Bevington, Bernstein, King and ultimately Hollis has done when we see the calibre of the new owner(s) and manager.
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Where's the £60K per week come from?
Was he even being paid? Neither King nor Bernstein were.
If you want to moan about commitment, then you'd better turn your ire on SBL next, as he is also only a short term advisor.
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I assume Bevington was being paid handsomely to tell Hollis what was patently obvious. And in any case, his recommendations wouldn't apply to a new owner, who would get his own people to assess what is needed: a proper board with competent and experienced people, and some professional footballers who can, a) play football, and b) be arsed. In short, a complete overhaul.
The latter is probably what King and Bernstein were trying to suggest. When this was ignored they presumably thought "fk this for a game of soldiers" and resigned.
What an absolute shit show this season has been.
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No again Chicago, maybe it is not clear enough.
He was asked by Hollis to review and evaluate the managerial position and playing staff in March, that dossier would have been given to Holis and maybe Holis from all his previous business dealings may have seen the requirement to have this available for the new owners, as it is quite obvious to anyone who wants to open their eyes, that the sale of the club was and is Holis main objective as given by the man child Lerner.
which fits in with my view they had a Plan B, if the club don't sell.
The critical piece of information regarding the sale is the value and liabilities emanating from the player contracts and any resale or recovery value.
I am pretty sure that potential buyers would undertake that work themselves.
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We will only know how good or bad a job Bevington, Bernstein, King and ultimately Hollis has done when we see the calibre of the new owner(s) and manager.
You can't hold them up on the calibre of any new owners. They can't decide who's going to make an offer.
If he f##ks the deal up, then you can have a go.
If it turns out he's done a deal with Carsen's Yeung's less scrupulous older brother instead of someone far more viable, then You can have a go.
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The only problem with that line of thinking Chicago is when in the last 10 years have we had a plan B???
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The only problem with that line of thinking Chicago is when in the last 10 years have we had a plan B???
I'm scratching my head trying to think of what plan A was
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The only problem with that line of thinking Chicago is when in the last 10 years have we had a plan B???
Yes it would be a novelty mate.
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Let's just clear one thing up, neither King, Bernstein, Bevington or Sir Brian are or have been on a salary at the club.
So quite where the 60k a week for Bevington came from I'd love to know.
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but he don't mind staying on for a couple more weeks picking up his 60k a week while still.working as an advisor to forest and Wales euro squad
£60k a week? Are you sure about that?!
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The only problem with that line of thinking Chicago is when in the last 10 years have we had a plan B???
I'm scratching my head trying to think of what plan A was
Plan A was the five year plan but nobody has any idea what that actually was.
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The only problem with that line of thinking Chicago is when in the last 10 years have we had a plan B???
I'm scratching my head trying to think of what plan A was
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What I would like to know is when are they going to annouce Charles NZ has left? I've got a provisional booking on a brass band to play him out of the Bodymoor heath car park.
What a superb idea. A bit like this one?
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I'd love to know the salaries etc this lot have taken.
No, on second thoughts I wouldn't. I'm still trying to get over Charles NZ.
...and of course, he'll go on his "proper" holiday now, still trousering £63,000 / week until the end of June.
My mistake sorry lads. CT meant zog wages.
Why has he left though? Villa have really p-d me off so i hope he is leaving because he has fulfilled his duties
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Aston Villa would like to place on record our thanks to Adrian for the vast improvements he made with our media relations. Now the season is over, he has returned Joleon's phone to him and has left to pursue other less challenging opportunities.
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Or you could play it the other way. The longer Lerner leaves it, the less time the new owners would have to get ready for next season. Therefore it would be in their interest to agree as soon as possible which may lead to the price going up. Big proviso though is that the deal does not collapse.
Or another cynical way to look at it is
The longer they leave it the less outlay the owners will have to make on getting us ready. I know its a horrible thought but for every honest, wealthy, good intended owner there are a lot of the megalomaniac. skint, fly by nights as well
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You don't need to worry about megalomaniacs and fly by nights Hookey. They'll be weeded out by the stringent Owner And Director Test. ;)
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Let's just clear one thing up, neither King, Bernstein, Bevington or Sir Brian are or have been on a salary at the club.
A very strange episode indeed. New board appointed, weeks later most of new board have left and the club is apparently close to being sold. If there is any truth in the sale rumours, surely wheels were in motion when King, Bernstein and Bevington came on board? "Here we go lads, great opportunity to come on board at Aston Villa. Only going to be for a few weeks while we find nerw owners, but a job's a job ain't it".
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Let's just clear one thing up, neither King, Bernstein, Bevington or Sir Brian are or have been on a salary at the club.
A very strange episode indeed. New board appointed, weeks later most of new board have left and the club is apparently close to being sold. If there is any truth in the sale rumours, surely wheels were in motion when King, Bernstein and Bevington came on board? "Here we go lads, great opportunity to come on board at Aston Villa. Only going to be for a few weeks while we find nerw owners, but a job's a job ain't it".
We have been for sale for ages now. Their departure doesn't have to mean that there is something imminent - it could simply have been the advice was being ignored.
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Let's just clear one thing up, neither King, Bernstein, Bevington or Sir Brian are or have been on a salary at the club.
A very strange episode indeed. New board appointed, weeks later most of new board have left and the club is apparently close to being sold. If there is any truth in the sale rumours, surely wheels were in motion when King, Bernstein and Bevington came on board? "Here we go lads, great opportunity to come on board at Aston Villa. Only going to be for a few weeks while we find nerw owners, but a job's a job ain't it".
We have been for sale for ages now. Their departure doesn't have to mean that there is something imminent - it could simply have been the advice was being ignored.
Or even more mundane, Bevington had completed the work he had agreed to carry out and had stayed on until the end of the season to help Hollis out after King and Bernstein left.
Come 5pm Sunday night Bevington has nothing tying him to the club. Last job is to write his own departure notice and get someone to post it.
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I'd love to know the salaries etc this lot have taken.
No, on second thoughts I wouldn't. I'm still trying to get over Charles NZ.
...and of course, he'll go on his "proper" holiday now, still trousering £63,000 / week until the end of June.
My mistake sorry lads. CT meant zog wages.
Why has he left though? Villa have really p-d me off so i hope he is leaving because he has fulfilled his duties
Yep, sorry - definitely meant CNZ. A season long holiday on £63,000/week followed by a proper holiday until end of June.
I envy him to be honest, massively!!
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Let's just clear one thing up, neither King, Bernstein, Bevington or Sir Brian are or have been on a salary at the club.
A very strange episode indeed. New board appointed, weeks later most of new board have left and the club is apparently close to being sold. If there is any truth in the sale rumours, surely wheels were in motion when King, Bernstein and Bevington came on board? "Here we go lads, great opportunity to come on board at Aston Villa. Only going to be for a few weeks while we find nerw owners, but a job's a job ain't it".
We have been for sale for ages now. Their departure doesn't have to mean that there is something imminent - it could simply have been the advice was being ignored.
Or even more mundane, Bevington had completed the work he had agreed to carry out and had stayed on until the end of the season to help Hollis out after King and Bernstein left.
Come 5pm Sunday night Bevington has nothing tying him to the club. Last job is to write his own departure notice and get someone to post it.
I meant the departures of King and Bernstein not necessarily meaning a sale was imminent.
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VID that doesn't tie in with the conspiracy theory that some are compelled or almost obligated to spin. That a man came to the club, fulfilled his duties and departed as planned provides no drama. And a comment I read earlier that he left because of the looneys at the club. Well if that was the case he would have done that 5 minutes after walking through the doors. He didn't and instead stayed for the term he committed to, but that isn't the scandalous story some are praying for it to be instead.
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Everyone's assuming that it was always agreed that Bevington was a only ever a short term fix at the club but this was never mentioned at the time. Or if it was I can't find it
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Everyone's assuming that it was always agreed that Bevington was a only ever a short term fix at the club but this was never mentioned at the time. Or if it was I can't find it
I think I remember reading it was, but then again I can't remember the last time we won a game.
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VID that doesn't tie in with the conspiracy theory that some are compelled or almost obligated to spin. That a man came to the club, fulfilled his duties and departed as planned provides no drama. And a comment I read earlier that he left because of the looneys at the club. Well if that was the case he would have done that 5 minutes after walking through the doors. He didn't and instead stayed for the term he committed to, but that isn't the scandalous story some are praying for it to be instead.
No offence, TV, but you've as much of an idea about what his original plan was as those thinking the worst, it's all just speculation. Frankly, the state that the club is in at the moment, i wouldn't be getting too sniffy about people thinking the worst. The worst has happened, repeatedly, this season.
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Everyone's assuming that it was always agreed that Bevington was a only ever a short term fix at the club but this was never mentioned at the time. Or if it was I can't find it
I think I remember reading it was, but then again I can't remember the last time we won a game.
I'm searching press articles and can't find any reference to the agreed length of his tenure. It was mentioned today but not at the time, I'm sure
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VID that doesn't tie in with the conspiracy theory that some are compelled or almost obligated to spin. That a man came to the club, fulfilled his duties and departed as planned provides no drama. And a comment I read earlier that he left because of the looneys at the club. Well if that was the case he would have done that 5 minutes after walking through the doors. He didn't and instead stayed for the term he committed to, but that isn't the scandalous story some are praying for it to be instead.
No offence, TV, but you've as much of an idea about what his original plan was as those thinking the worst, it's all just speculation. Frankly, the state that the club is in at the moment, i wouldn't be getting too sniffy about people thinking the worst. The worst has happened, repeatedly, this season.
Thinking the worst is fine if that's what you want to do because of where we are, but not everything has to be. I chose not to take that approach. If his remit was to be here until the end of the season which he says in his departure note, and the end of season has arrived, why can it not be that he did what he came to do? He was never announced as a permanent hire. And it was suggested when he did arrive that came to assist Bernstein. That he didn't leave when Bernstein did suggests he worked for Hollis instead and was on a different agenda to the one originally suggested.
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Neither plan A - (sell the club) or plan B - (run the club as a success,) have worked, and now the people who were working to plan B have all left.
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What I would like to know is when are they going to annouce Charles NZ has left? I've got a provisional booking on a brass band to play him out of the Bodymoor heath car park.
What a superb idea. A bit like this one?
I'd like to shove a tuba up his arse.
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Neither plan A - (sell the club) or plan B - (run the club as a success,) have worked, and now the people who were working to plan B have all left.
It looks to me as those that were appointed thinking they would have a chance at plan b have left because they think plan a means they will not have the opportunity to implement it.
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Aston Villa Football Club can confirm today that Adrian Bevington has decided to leave his advisory position with the Club.
Bevington joined the Club to review and evaluate the managerial position and playing staff at Villa Park in March.
The above copied from the statement, so yes it may have cleared things up Chicago, especially from those asking what his remit was, any clearer.
They could have hired me and I'd have saved them a heap of money evaluating the playing staff. They're all shite.
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Neither plan A - (sell the club) or plan B - (run the club as a success,) have worked, and now the people who were working to plan B have all left.
It looks to me as those that were appointed thinking they would have a chance at plan b have left because they think plan a means they will not have the opportunity to implement it.
and even the bits of plan b that they could do regardless of the sale weren't going to happen.
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Let's just clear one thing up, neither King, Bernstein, Bevington or Sir Brian are or have been on a salary at the club.
A very strange episode indeed. New board appointed, weeks later most of new board have left and the club is apparently close to being sold. If there is any truth in the sale rumours, surely wheels were in motion when King, Bernstein and Bevington came on board? "Here we go lads, great opportunity to come on board at Aston Villa. Only going to be for a few weeks while we find nerw owners, but a job's a job ain't it".
We have been for sale for ages now. Their departure doesn't have to mean that there is something imminent - it could simply have been the advice was being ignored.
Or even more mundane, Bevington had completed the work he had agreed to carry out and had stayed on until the end of the season to help Hollis out after King and Bernstein left.
Come 5pm Sunday night Bevington has nothing tying him to the club. Last job is to write his own departure notice and get someone to post it.
I meant the departures of King and Bernstein not necessarily meaning a sale was imminent.
Sorry aev, misunderstood.
I don't think that there's any doubt that King and Bernstein departing was anything to do with an imminent sale and everything to do with what they saw as Lerner moving the goalposts with regards what they understand their brief and responsibilities to be as agreed with Hollis.
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We will only know how good or bad a job Bevington, Bernstein, King and ultimately Hollis has done when we see the calibre of the new owner(s) and manager.
you're probably right; unless Lerner simply pulls names out of a hat for the "new owner" competition.
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It's me. I had the purple ticket and number 649.
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Daft question but do we know, or can we speculate, what involvement Randy is having in these negotiations? Typically we seemed to know where his planes was or when he was in the country but there's not been any such updates recently.
Is Randy doing the negotiating whilst Holis runs the shop or has Randy delegated both tasks to Holis?
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Hollis is running the sale. Obviously there is a dotted line back to Lerner on where they are at, what they are prepared to spend etc.
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Randy couldn't run a bath....
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Hollis is running the sale. Obviously there is a dotted line back to Lerner on where they are at, what they are prepared to spend etc.
Squires are running the sale, if as we are led to believe the sale is imment we are at the Warranties representations and Undertakings stage which is the part that a lot of transactions fall down on.
Obviously Randy has the final say.
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Everyone's assuming that it was always agreed that Bevington was a only ever a short term fix at the club but this was never mentioned at the time. Or if it was I can't find it
I was thinking the same. I don't recall any announcement that he was here on a fixed term agreement.
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Everyone's assuming that it was always agreed that Bevington was a only ever a short term fix at the club but this was never mentioned at the time. Or if it was I can't find it
I was thinking the same. I don't recall any announcement that he was here on a fixed term agreement.
I think people are basing it on the wording of the statement from today, it certainly reads as someone who had a specific target to meet and that has been completed so there's an amicable parting.
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I read it as the departure of Bernstein and King was such as major PR gaffe. Bevington leaving would have been even worse ,As he wasn't in the"Randy is an idiot" e-mail chain they kept him on till the dust had settled and there couldn't be seen a direct connection between the other departures.Little will be out the door soon, and the whole "lets try running the club with football people" experiment will be over.
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I read it as the departure of Bernstein and King was such as major PR gaffe. Bevington leaving would have been even worse ,As he wasn't in the"Randy is an idiot" e-mail chain they kept him on till the dust had settled and there couldn't be seen a direct connection between the other departures.Little will be out the door soon, and the whole "lets try running the club with football people" experiment will be over.
Or, we're on the verge of a take over and as Wyness and Comolli are lined up to take over the footballing side of things, he sees little point in staying on.
I can be as negative as the next person but you talk as if a takeover isn't even a possibility
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Everyone's assuming that it was always agreed that Bevington was a only ever a short term fix at the club but this was never mentioned at the time. Or if it was I can't find it
I was thinking the same. I don't recall any announcement that he was here on a fixed term agreement.
I agree. If a short term agreement was the plan all along, then surely the statement would have said so, rather than saying Hollis was told a few weeks ago.
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If a sale was always on the cards then surely nobody at all at board level, coaching or management would have been safe to say they were long term appointments?
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This is the bit of Bevington's statement that puzzles me - ""To move forward, now more than ever, it is crucial the Club makes the right calls on the big decisions it is faced with."
If a sale has been agreed and is on the cusp of being completed, what big decisions are facing the club? Unless, of course, he is talking about the incoming owners.
It's all a bit sad really, for a few weeks we had a really competent, well rounded board. Arguably for the first time in the 58 years since I first watched a game - and probably a decade or two before that.
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This is the bit of Bevington's statement that puzzles me - ""To move forward, now more than ever, it is crucial the Club makes the right calls on the big decisions it is faced with."
If a sale has been agreed and is on the cusp of being completed, what big decisions are facing the club? Unless, of course, he is talking about the incoming owners.
It's all a bit sad really, for a few weeks we had a really competent, well rounded board. Arguably for the first time in the 58 years since I first watched a game - and probably a decade or two before that.
I felt the same - the board actually felt fit for purpose, and then within a blink of an eye it was back to how it was.
In terms of reviewing the playing situation, it didn't require any great insight to conclude we were shit - the table has been doing this for the last few years.
Not replacing Garde has also left us scraping along at the bottom for weeks now. What happens if we aren't taken over? These past few weeks really have been completely wasted.
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I read it as the departure of Bernstein and King was such as major PR gaffe. Bevington leaving would have been even worse ,As he wasn't in the"Randy is an idiot" e-mail chain they kept him on till the dust had settled and there couldn't be seen a direct connection between the other departures.Little will be out the door soon, and the whole "lets try running the club with football people" experiment will be over.
I think it aptly sums up Lerner, after almost 10 years of being run by his mates or joeys, he employs some people experienced in the cut and thrust world of football, in positions they are accustomed to, for a couple of weeks, then sells up making it all a waste of time and pointless anyway. He doesn't/never did know what he was doing.
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I read it as the departure of Bernstein and King was such as major PR gaffe. Bevington leaving would have been even worse ,As he wasn't in the"Randy is an idiot" e-mail chain they kept him on till the dust had settled and there couldn't be seen a direct connection between the other departures.Little will be out the door soon, and the whole "lets try running the club with football people" experiment will be over.
I think it aptly sums up Lerner, after almost 10 years of being run by his mates or joeys, he employs some people experienced in the cut and thrust world of football, in positions they are accustomed to, for a couple of weeks, then sells up making it all a waste of time and pointless anyway. He doesn't/never did know what he was doing.
totally agree,
if lerner hadn't been given money, he'd be cleaning windows (badly)
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I read it as the departure of Bernstein and King was such as major PR gaffe. Bevington leaving would have been even worse ,As he wasn't in the"Randy is an idiot" e-mail chain they kept him on till the dust had settled and there couldn't be seen a direct connection between the other departures.Little will be out the door soon, and the whole "lets try running the club with football people" experiment will be over.
I think it aptly sums up Lerner, after almost 10 years of being run by his mates or joeys, he employs some people experienced in the cut and thrust world of football, in positions they are accustomed to, for a couple of weeks, then sells up making it all a waste of time and pointless anyway. He doesn't/never did know what he was doing.
Cut out the "joey" crap.
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I read it as the departure of Bernstein and King was such as major PR gaffe. Bevington leaving would have been even worse ,As he wasn't in the"Randy is an idiot" e-mail chain they kept him on till the dust had settled and there couldn't be seen a direct connection between the other departures.Little will be out the door soon, and the whole "lets try running the club with football people" experiment will be over.
I think it aptly sums up Lerner, after almost 10 years of being run by his mates or joeys, he employs some people experienced in the cut and thrust world of football, in positions they are accustomed to, for a couple of weeks, then sells up making it all a waste of time and pointless anyway. He doesn't/never did know what he was doing.
Cut out the "joey" crap.
Might be ignorant here but I thought a joey was someone who went along with whatever they were told because they were a bit dim. Apologies if it means something else, no offence meant.
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I read it as the departure of Bernstein and King was such as major PR gaffe. Bevington leaving would have been even worse ,As he wasn't in the"Randy is an idiot" e-mail chain they kept him on till the dust had settled and there couldn't be seen a direct connection between the other departures.Little will be out the door soon, and the whole "lets try running the club with football people" experiment will be over.
I think it aptly sums up Lerner, after almost 10 years of being run by his mates or joeys, he employs some people experienced in the cut and thrust world of football, in positions they are accustomed to, for a couple of weeks, then sells up making it all a waste of time and pointless anyway. He doesn't/never did know what he was doing.
Cut out the "joey" crap.
Might be ignorant here but I thought a joey was someone who went along with whatever they were told because they were a bit dim. Apologies if it means something else, no offence meant.
Some of my best friends are kangaroos. You bastard.
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I read it as the departure of Bernstein and King was such as major PR gaffe. Bevington leaving would have been even worse ,As he wasn't in the"Randy is an idiot" e-mail chain they kept him on till the dust had settled and there couldn't be seen a direct connection between the other departures.Little will be out the door soon, and the whole "lets try running the club with football people" experiment will be over.
I think it aptly sums up Lerner, after almost 10 years of being run by his mates or joeys, he employs some people experienced in the cut and thrust world of football, in positions they are accustomed to, for a couple of weeks, then sells up making it all a waste of time and pointless anyway. He doesn't/never did know what he was doing.
Cut out the "joey" crap.
Might be ignorant here but I thought a joey was someone who went along with whatever they were told because they were a bit dim. Apologies if it means something else, no offence meant.
Joey Deacon, sufferer of cerebral palsy.
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I read it as the departure of Bernstein and King was such as major PR gaffe. Bevington leaving would have been even worse ,As he wasn't in the"Randy is an idiot" e-mail chain they kept him on till the dust had settled and there couldn't be seen a direct connection between the other departures.Little will be out the door soon, and the whole "lets try running the club with football people" experiment will be over.
I think it aptly sums up Lerner, after almost 10 years of being run by his mates or joeys, he employs some people experienced in the cut and thrust world of football, in positions they are accustomed to, for a couple of weeks, then sells up making it all a waste of time and pointless anyway. He doesn't/never did know what he was doing.
Cut out the "joey" crap.
Might be ignorant here but I thought a joey was someone who went along with whatever they were told because they were a bit dim. Apologies if it means something else, no offence meant.
joey = joey deacon. it was a playground insult in the 80s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joey_Deacon#Blue_Peter_and_cultural_impact
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I've never used the term and don't recall hearing it very often but I never knew it was offensive.
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Well, you learn something new every day.
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With the review of the playing staff and the obvious answer, is get rid of all, they are all shit, since we need to do this as cost effectively as possible, maybe Bevington was tasked with talking to some of these tossers agents, i.e. Gabby, Bactwat, Richards, Guzan and trying to find out exactly what percentage of their remaining, hopefully relegated clause contracts they would require to be shifted.
Also with the sale, we know Randy has wanted out, so the talks could have been going on for a lot longer than we thought, but only over the last say 3 to 4 weeks has a serious intentioned buyer been identified, so that also saw the departure of Bernie and King, as their remit was changed to sit on your hands boys orders from the man child, a deal is on the cards. There e-mail content something like ' Yeah where has the stupid twat heard that before"
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I've never used the term and don't recall hearing it very often but I never knew it was offensive.
I have heard that term a handful of times over the years but always assumed it was just a generic word like doofus or eejit. I had no idea it was based on a person. I was living in Paris back in pre-internet days then so other than Villa results was clueless about a lot of UK stuff.
I knew some Aussies years back who used Joey as a term for a person whose name they didn't know - equivalent to bloke or geezer.
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I knew some Aussies years back who used Joey as a term for a person whose name they didn't know - equivalent to bloke or geezer.
I think that is the only context I've heard it in.
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We had a "beer wench" we hired for the day at the cricket in Australia once.
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We had a "beer wench" we hired for the day at the cricket in Australia once.
Coincidentally we were in the Cock at Highbury tube before the game on Sunday and Chico and a couple of others were discussing this concept from cricket matches. Lo and behold, the pub had employed a member of staff to deliver beer to customers in the beer garden - no queuing, and she brought change back too. Cracking idea.