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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: UK Redsox on March 20, 2016, 04:26:01 PM
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I thought that a thread should be in place for when the club announces next year's prices.
I'm sure that the club has already decided on the prices for either the Championship or in the extremely unlikely event that Villa are still in the Premier League.
I expect that they'll start chasing us as soon as the inevitable is mathematically confirmed.
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They can chase me as much as they like.......they won't be getting another penny.
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I'm guessing the message from Nicola Keye and co will be along the lines of 'great news for supporters...the season ticket prices have been frozen. Also you get 4 extra matches! '
Those matches will be played randomly on week nights yet to be arranged against the likes of Burton, Rotherham, Brentford and Walsall.
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I'll be sorted for a lot of aways living in the North West. I like a lot of people will have concerns regarding the random night games.
Perhaps Leeds United have a point regarding TV games.
If Villa and Seatwave stay in bed that would be the best option for me.
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the club had their sports marketing analysts in london poring over excel spreadsheets of their 'customers' back in october/november, looking at the possible implications of relegation on matchday revenue ...
“they’re shitting it” was the jist of the conversation.
let's see how they react.
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I think they'll announce details of these once we are mathematically down or very close to it.
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How will relegation affect the approach to pricing? Something I thought about after seeing a news story about what's happening at Huddersfield, and we'll be in the same division next year. They are charging £179, £69 for 8 to 17 year olds and £23 for under eights. They've sold 11,000 already, this for a club with an average attendance of about 15,000 (not at all bad for a town with a population of 120,000. Following your local team is a big thing here). Anyway, what will the new board do? Prices surely won't go up. Will it be a freeze, or a cut to try to get the numbers in?
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Probably a price freeze, and they'll say it's actually a reduction because we play more games. It'd be nice they reduce the prices and try and attract more kids.
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Freezes prices is my guess.
If it was me, i'd do a one season special. Lower every price. Try and pack the place as much as possible to help get us straight back up.
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It surely has to be a reduction after the garbage people have forked out for the past few years and this seasons shambolic attempt at staying up. With Fox gone we might get some sense.
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Thread over in Tickets & Travel if a Mod would like to merge
EDIT - ta
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Sincerely hope we try and keep or even attract what will turn out to be a completely lost generation of support that's endured the past 5 years of a complete shitefest.
Big ideas in every department please Villa for the forthcoming season.I've made the point before that the whippersnappers spend,or rather sponge,an awful lot of pennies within the ground/club shop etc.Admirable to see plenty of clubs starting to think about their support base.Witness Wigan,where we'll be heading.Adult season tickets in the family stand also include an under 16's season ticket for free, meaning adult+1 under 16 for the amazing price of £199.
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they need to make kids tickets very very cheap at the very least. They need to get youngsters into villa park and, hopefully, we will win more games and hook another generation
also think they should substantially reduce prices for current season ticket holders to compensate for the crap we have had to put up with and try and persuade people to renew, would be pleasantly surprised if they do this though
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If it was me running the marketing I would have letters / emails delivered not long after after we are confirmed as down, offering a discount on next season if you buy early so you can 'Join the fightback'
I would try to get the supporters to feel part of the rebuilding by getting us on board as early as I could.
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If it was me, i'd do a one season special. Lower every price. Try and pack the place as much as possible to help get us straight back up.
Absolutely agree - keep the crowds high; that way you sell more merchandise and consumables as well as generating an atmosphere.
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Who has the final say on pricing, is it Lerner or Hollis? I rather fear it might be Lerner, in which case I can't see him offering any special deals.
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If it was me running the marketing I would have letters / emails delivered not long after after we are confirmed as down, offering a discount on next season if you buy early so you can 'Join the fightback'
I would try to get the supporters to feel part of the rebuilding by getting us on board as early as I could.
They're more likely to freeze the price and spin it as joining the fightback.
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I'm not sure about season tickets in the championship, but match day tickets at some clubs are pretty close to our levels.
I wouldn't expect to be paying a great deal less next year - perhaps it's not unreasonable either.
I think the club are pretty decent with tickets.
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I can see some convoluted offer. Pricing will remain the same, however if you are a ST holder next season the price will also remain the same for the 17/18 season if we're promoted. Something like that.
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I sit next to a Wednesday fan at work and he said when they went down in 2000 they offered a discounted 3 year ST called Premier League- the return or something similar. They went down to League 1 in 2003.
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If it was me running the marketing I would have letters / emails delivered not long after after we are confirmed as down, offering a discount on next season if you buy early so you can 'Join the fightback'
I would try to get the supporters to feel part of the rebuilding by getting us on board as early as I could.
Yep, my money's on this being the deal - early bird reduction if you buy/renew before the end of the season then it goes up to current season ticket prices from that point on. I'd be amazed if they attempt an increase - after all, Herbert's no longer in charge!
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I think we need a new manager in before any announcement. In terms of pricing it's a difficult one because we want to punch our weight as the biggest club down there, which means paying considerably more than small clubs like Huddersfield and Wigan, as matchday revenue is more important in the Champ than PL. At the same time though, it's an insult to want to charge those of us who have paid circa £500 for this season, the same again.
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I think we need a new manager in before any announcement. In terms of pricing it's a difficult one because we want to punch our weight as the biggest club down there, which means paying considerably more than small clubs like Huddersfield and Wigan, as matchday revenue is more important in the Champ than PL. At the same time though, it's an insult to want to charge those of us who have paid circa £500 for this season, the same again.
cheapskate!!! if you paid a bit more, you'd get a seat inside the stadium. On second thoughts.........
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I would suggest they offer discount incentive to fill the lower tier of the ground next season and close the Upper Trin otherwise Villa Park will resemble a ghost ship with 25k each home game which just motivates away teams. Stick the away fans in Witton Lane upper.
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Surely a gesture of some kind is in order? I know there aren't any guarantees in football but the £-per-win ratio for a ST at Villa is diabolical. I honestly don't know what other incentives there are for ST holders to renew - it's not as if getting a ticket next season will be a tricky task. This is where Charlie Wijeratna's highly paid marketing cronies earn their corn I reckon.
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Surely with the new TV deal kicking in next season they can reduce the...oh.
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Apparently we had £2M set aside to fund a ST reduction, but we spent it on a bottle of tippex and some new claws.
Edit - £80k (winky thing)
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AVST (http://villatrust.org.uk/?p=1688)
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The Supporters’ Trust have today (12th April) issued proposals to Aston Villa Football Club demanding an aggressive ticket pricing policy for the forthcoming season in the Championship.
A letter with our proposals has been sent to Steve Hollis, Chairman, and expands upon our initial verbal input provided to Tom Fox, former CEO, and Lee Preece, Supporter Liaison Officer, in February. A copy of the full letter is available below.
The principles of the proposed policy are to maximise match day attendees and ensuring that we have passionate supporters getting behind the team in a packed Villa Park as we seek to bounce back immediately to the Premier League. Maximising attendances and atmosphere will lead not only to more revenue spend on match day activities (club shop and kiosks), compensating the price shortfall, but will also lead to more TV revenue where Aston Villa is seen as an attractive TV product.
The main proposals of our pricing policy proposal are:
Reduction in match day attendance pricing to an average of £20;
Past season ticket holders who have suffered the worst home form in our history in the last 5 years are given a tiered rebate towards a 2016/17 season ticket;
Ongoing loyalty discounts into the 2017/18 season;
Attractive junior and young adult pricing to ensure we develop a youth supporter base for the future; and
Our loyal away followers are not worse off in the absence of the Premier League’s away fan pricing cap.
In addition, we have requested that away supporters to Villa Park access at £20, adding to a vibrant atmosphere.
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When we play at St Andrews next year - as we must - can our fans be filmed from all angles.
Can stupid villa fans sending of Flares, smashing up toilets and posting it on You Tube
...can they truly be banned.
FOREVER
Can we have a "decent fan" attendance at non-prohibitive prices?
For this one game, and get the old banter and jokes and songs ringing around their pigsty
and not any more vandalism and danger.
Just for this match ?
So we can take our kids, and not be in danger because of our own lunatic fringe ?
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I think your more in danger from Small Heaths lot than our own.
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not sure i get it
fans telling the club how to price tickets, what next?
what team should be picked? how the grass should be be cut on the pitch? what brand of pies to sell?
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One of the criticisms constantly thrown at the club is they don't do anything imaginative on ticket sales. They won't fill the ground next year by freezing prices. Why not give them some ideas that might keep people coming through the doors next season and that would be palatable to our worn down support?
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One of the criticisms constantly thrown at the club is they don't do anything imaginative on ticket sales. They won't fill the ground next year by freezing prices. Why not give them some ideas that might keep people coming through the doors next season and that would be palatable to our worn down support?
I've had conversations in the past with both Nicky Keye and Paul Faulkener about our ticket prices. Surely the objective is to fill our ground, not just for the next game, but for the next x number of years, kids ticket prices being the key to the longer term goal.
All they throw back at you is that our prices are good compared to other clubs. That's true, but isn't really that relevant. It doesn't matter to me how much other clubs charge, I'm not going to start going elsewhere because they are £5 cheaper than Villa. This applies to all Villa fans I would assume. Ticket prices at Villa are what gets the fans through the doors, not how much our tickets are compared with Everton, Stoke, Hull etc
They really need to get the kids through the doors next season when, hopefully, we will be winning more home games. If they don't. they will lose the next generation of potential Villa fans to becoming TV fans of Man City, Utd, Chelsea etc
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They've obviously been struggling with what to do - this time last year ST's were already on sale, and the year before they went on sale in March. My guess is they'll wait until we're mathematically relegated (Saturday) then come out with what's on offer and, like others, I think it will be a price freeze with the supposed sweetener that we'll get more games. Surely they won't be so stupid that they'll put prices up. Will they?
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First game should be free
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The "get more games" thing is both an understandable argument and an annoying one.
Yes, "more games", only they're against the likes of Burton Albion and MK Dons.
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The "get more games" thing is both an understandable argument and an annoying one.
Yes, "more games", only they're against the likes of Burton Albion and MK Dons.
And something like 6 out of the 23 home games are Tuesday nights, so actually about the same number of weekend games as this season, I'll definitely want a reduction if I'm renewing.
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Yeah the prospect of playing the likes Rotherham on a freezing wet Tuesday night in January doesn't bear thinking about and, although I'll renew, I may start missing a few games at VP
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I was seriously considering dropping my ST next season, and picking up tickets for each game, however I intend to get an away ST next season and I don't think you can get one without the other...foiled!!
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I've had conversations in the past with both Nicky Keye and Paul Faulkener about our ticket prices. Surely the objective is to fill our ground, not just for the next game, but for the next x number of years, kids ticket prices being the key to the longer term goal.
All they throw back at you is that our prices are good compared to other clubs. That's true, but isn't really that relevant. It doesn't matter to me how much other clubs charge, I'm not going to start going elsewhere because they are £5 cheaper than Villa. This applies to all Villa fans I would assume. Ticket prices at Villa are what gets the fans through the doors, not how much our tickets are compared with Everton, Stoke, Hull etc
The trouble for all football fans is attendances and ticket prices bear almost no relationship to one another and clubs know this. The performance of the team has a much greater impact on attendances than ticket prices (for example, why do Premier League clubs get the highest crowds when they charge the highest ticket prices?).
So the clubs know that from a pricing perspective, as long as they don't make ticket prices extortionate (ie out of kilter with other clubs) then the target they work to is to price as highly as they can get away with. By the very same logic, reducing prices doesn't increase attendances and therefore never results in the oft-claimed compensating amount of matchday revenue from catering, etc.
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I was seriously considering dropping my ST next season, and picking up tickets for each game, however I intend to get an away ST next season and I don't think you can get one without the other...foiled!!
is there such a thing as an away season ticket?
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Would they close part of the ground such as the upper witton lane stand home section maybe?
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Would they close part of the ground such as the upper witton lane stand home section maybe?
I overheard an old gentleman in the Trinity Rd Lift saying they were going to shut the top tier next season.I am not so sure though, they will be the most expensive tickets with matchday revenue more important next year.
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not sure i get it
fans telling the club how to price tickets, what next?
what team should be picked? how the grass should be be cut on the pitch? what brand of pies to sell?
What's wrong with fans having an opinion on tickets prices and letting them be known?
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One of the criticisms constantly thrown at the club is they don't do anything imaginative on ticket sales. They won't fill the ground next year by freezing prices. Why not give them some ideas that might keep people coming through the doors next season and that would be palatable to our worn down support?
I've had conversations in the past with both Nicky Keye and Paul Faulkener about our ticket prices. Surely the objective is to fill our ground, not just for the next game, but for the next x number of years, kids ticket prices being the key to the longer term goal.
All they throw back at you is that our prices are good compared to other clubs. That's true, but isn't really that relevant. It doesn't matter to me how much other clubs charge, I'm not going to start going elsewhere because they are £5 cheaper than Villa. This applies to all Villa fans I would assume. Ticket prices at Villa are what gets the fans through the doors, not how much our tickets are compared with Everton, Stoke, Hull etc
They really need to get the kids through the doors next season when, hopefully, we will be winning more home games. If they don't. they will lose the next generation of potential Villa fans to becoming TV fans of Man City, Utd, Chelsea etc
They need to learn from West Ham - a club that has never had higher gates than us as far as I can remember - and see how they've managed to shift all their season tickets for a 60k seater stadium.
Like you say, it's not just about prices, it's about ambition, top level marketing and connecting with fans. The Club has failed at such things for far too long.
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The selection of the new Manager will play a big part in this. Personally, I say try to fill the ground by halving the costs of season tickets and try to get the fans back on side. Money will be made by Villa through other sources at Villa Park on matchday by keeping the ground full, selling food and merchandise etc. As long as there are enough staff available to do the selling of course! Got to make tickets sellable. Try selling me a Holte End ST for around £300 and I would be interested, even in the Championship.
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not sure i get it
fans telling the club how to price tickets, what next?
what team should be picked? how the grass should be be cut on the pitch? what brand of pies to sell?
What's wrong with fans having an opinion on tickets prices and letting them be known?
nothing at all but be honest do you think that the club will think hang on a minute that was going to be our pricing structure but having received a letter we will change it
nice idea but will never happen on planet earth
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Would they close part of the ground such as the upper witton lane stand home section maybe?
I overheard an old gentleman in the Trinity Rd Lift saying they were going to shut the top tier next season.I am not so sure though, they will be the most expensive tickets with matchday revenue more important next year.
This is a serious consideration and will reduce staff costs without ruining the image on tv games. Will mean other areas will be fuller
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not sure i get it
fans telling the club how to price tickets, what next?
what team should be picked? how the grass should be be cut on the pitch? what brand of pies to sell?
What's wrong with fans having an opinion on tickets prices and letting them be known?
nothing at all but be honest do you think that the club will think hang on a minute that was going to be our pricing structure but having received a letter we will change it
nice idea but will never happen on planet earth
Well if they want to get back on-side with the fan base they should be looking at things like this. We've suffered enough since 2010 and I'm all for the fans speaking out. The club should listen.
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Some sort of reward for continuously renewing over the last five years would be nice.
I bet it doesn't happen though.
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They need to learn from West Ham - a club that has never had higher gates than us as far as I can remember - and see how they've managed to shift all their season tickets for a 60k seater stadium.
Like you say, it's not just about prices, it's about ambition, top level marketing and connecting with fans. The Club has failed at such things for far too long
Easy, you just get a tax-payer funded 60k stadium which cost £750m to build and pay £2m a year to rent it, sell adult season tickets from £500 - £900 and charge everyone £10 just to go on a waiting list to find out more information. With West Ham and their owners ( who I wouldn't be surprised to see sell the club next season to the highest overseas bidder) it is all about the prices and the money. Their model seems to be to squeeze every extra penny out of the affluent support base. I don't think there's much we need to learn from them, except maybe their kids' season ticket prices.
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Some sort of reward for continuously renewing over the last five years would be nice.
I bet it doesn't happen though.
we should be rewarded with a white unremoveable jacket for that
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Some sort of reward for continuously renewing over the last five years would be nice.
I bet it doesn't happen though.
we should be rewarded with a white unremoveable jacket for that
Hindsight is a wonderful thing, isn't it?
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They need to learn from West Ham - a club that has never had higher gates than us as far as I can remember - and see how they've managed to shift all their season tickets for a 60k seater stadium.
Like you say, it's not just about prices, it's about ambition, top level marketing and connecting with fans. The Club has failed at such things for far too long
Easy, you just get a tax-payer funded 60k stadium which cost £750m to build and pay £2m a year to rent it, sell adult season tickets from £500 - £900 and charge everyone £10 just to go on a waiting list to find out more information. With West Ham and their owners ( who I wouldn't be surprised to see sell the club next season to the highest overseas bidder) it is all about the prices and the money. Their model seems to be to squeeze every extra penny out of the affluent support base. I don't think there's much we need to learn from them, except maybe their kids' season ticket prices.
You're quite right, obviously the excitement of having a brand new stadium helps. However, prior to this, say five years ago, if you'd asked anyone who follows football whether they thought West Ham could fill a 60k stadium most, I reckon, would have replied "no chance". What West Ham have done very well is engaged with their fans and ramped up a sense of ambition around their club. I don't know what the prices of tickets are for next season there compared to previous seasons at Upton Park/Boleyn Ground but the whole process has certainly energised their fanbase and they are snapping up tickets. Would the same happen at Villa if we showed genuine ambition, engaged with fans and employed top marketing strategies? I have no doubt at all that it would.
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Hamilton Accies are charging £14 for a kids season ticket next season, in honour of John Cruyff. Imaginitive
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Would the same happen at Villa if we showed genuine ambition, engaged with fans and employed top marketing strategies? I have no doubt at all that it would.
Probably not. History shows that regardless of what happens the Villa fanbase tends not to move around too much. This is part of what caught Randy out - he thought he could buy this underachieving Birmingham club, give the local populace something to get behind and the fans would come in their thousands. What he found was that our attendances peaked the first year we finished 6th and actually fell over both the next two seasons, despite us finishing 6th again and bettering our cup performance from the previous year both times.
If we moved the club to London however...
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Well they'll probably come with a health warning for a start.
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Would the same happen at Villa if we showed genuine ambition, engaged with fans and employed top marketing strategies? I have no doubt at all that it would.
Probably not. History shows that regardless of what happens the Villa fanbase tends not to move around too much. This is part of what caught Randy out - he thought he could buy this underachieving Birmingham club, give the local populace something to get behind and the fans would come in their thousands. What he found was that our attendances peaked the first year we finished 6th and actually fell over both the next two seasons, despite us finishing 6th again and bettering our cup performance from the previous year both times.
If we moved the club to London however...
We went from 40,000 to 39,800 - that's the most tiny fall so your statement comes across as harsh, the season after that was 38,500 but could that not have been because we went pretty much all the way in both cups so people had a lot to pay for with extra home cup ties, meaning a few of the league gates suffered? I think we'd have stayed around 40k if we stayed in the top 6.
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Would they close part of the ground such as the upper witton lane stand home section maybe?
I overheard an old gentleman in the Trinity Rd Lift saying they were going to shut the top tier next season.I am not so sure though, they will be the most expensive tickets with matchday revenue more important next year.
It's a third full for half the premier league fixtures so can't really see anyone being in there next season when you consider the usual matchday price up there is 40 quid! And I can't really see a 50% price reduction.
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They need to learn from West Ham - a club that has never had higher gates than us as far as I can remember - and see how they've managed to shift all their season tickets for a 60k seater stadium.
Like you say, it's not just about prices, it's about ambition, top level marketing and connecting with fans. The Club has failed at such things for far too long
Easy, you just get a tax-payer funded 60k stadium which cost £750m to build and pay £2m a year to rent it, sell adult season tickets from £500 - £900 and charge everyone £10 just to go on a waiting list to find out more information. With West Ham and their owners ( who I wouldn't be surprised to see sell the club next season to the highest overseas bidder) it is all about the prices and the money. Their model seems to be to squeeze every extra penny out of the affluent support base. I don't think there's much we need to learn from them, except maybe their kids' season ticket prices.
Yeah, I agree that the Spammers seem to have pulled a stroke with this deal.
The Govt have taken the line of least resistance on dealing with the Olympic Stadium.
And as for "the West Ham way": if I hear / read that again, I'll puke.
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Rumours of closing the top tier are depressing when you consider we're going through a period of ground expansions: city, Liverpool, West ham, spurs.
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Rumours of closing the top tier are depressing when you consider we're going through a period of ground expansions: city, Liverpool, West ham, spurs.
The top tier of which?
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Rumours of closing the top tier are depressing when you consider we're going through a period of ground expansions: city, Liverpool, West ham, spurs.
The top tier of which?
TR I assume. I suppose that the upper Witton could be closed as well if the visitors can be accommodated in the lower away area
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Rumours of closing the top tier are depressing when you consider we're going through a period of ground expansions: city, Liverpool, West ham, spurs.
The top tier of which?
TR I assume. I suppose that the upper Witton could be closed as well if the visitors can be accommodated in the lower away area
Thanks.
I agree about the Witton.
It's been pretty sparse there all season. Not sure about the Trinity upper. Is that sparse too (can't see from where I am in Trinity)?
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I am amazed that any consideration is being given to closing sections of the ground. The Geordies and Man City kept their crowds when relegated- why won't we?
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I am amazed that any consideration is being given to closing sections of the ground. The Geordies and Man City kept their crowds when relegated- why won't we?
Maybe due to staffing cuts
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A price freeze would seem the most sensible option.
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A price freeze would seem the most sensible option.
a substantial price cut is the most sensible option.
the club should slash season ticket prices and try and shift 30k+ season tickets, get disillusioned fans back in the ground.
five years of total dross at villa park.
the club will take a financial hit, but they've got parachute payments to subsidise such an initiative and if fans don't come back next season, they never will.
hollis and co. need to wise up - they need the fans, more than the fans need them.
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A Huddersfield fan at work reckons they've already sold 15,000 season tickets for next season as they are reduced to £180. This is more then the average gate this season.
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A price freeze would seem the most sensible option.
a substantial price cut is the most sensible option.
the club should slash season ticket prices and try and shift 30k+ season tickets, get disillusioned fans back in the ground.
five years of total dross at villa park.
the club will take a financial hit, but they've got parachute payments to subsidise such an initiative and if fans don't come back next season, they never will.
hollis and co. need to wise up - they need the fans, more than the fans need them.
30k ST holders is a pipedream, even if we'd stayed up and slashed the prices we wouldn't get that many.
Aiming for 20k in the championship would be a good number, when you add on away fans and individual match sales that would set us up to average around 30k.
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A Huddersfield fan at work reckons they've already sold 15,000 season tickets for next season as they are reduced to £180. This is more then the average gate this season.
Great to hear about initiatives like this. Fair play to Huddersfield.
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We wouldnt shift 30K if we gave them away !
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Rumours of closing the top tier are depressing when you consider we're going through a period of ground expansions: city, Liverpool, West ham, spurs.
The top tier of which?
TR I assume. I suppose that the upper Witton could be closed as well if the visitors can be accommodated in the lower away area
Thanks.
I agree about the Witton.
It's been pretty sparse there all season. Not sure about the Trinity upper. Is that sparse too (can't see from where I am in Trinity)?
I suppose they could give half of the upper tier to visiting fans and leave the rest of it shut. No away fans pitchside then.
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Rumours of closing the top tier are depressing when you consider we're going through a period of ground expansions: city, Liverpool, West ham, spurs.
The top tier of which?
TR I assume. I suppose that the upper Witton could be closed as well if the visitors can be accommodated in the lower away area
Thanks.
I agree about the Witton.
It's been pretty sparse there all season. Not sure about the Trinity upper. Is that sparse too (can't see from where I am in Trinity)?
I suppose they could give half of the upper tier to visiting fans and leave the rest of it shut. No away fans pitchside then.
That might be a problem when the likes of Blues are here.
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They'll have to give season tickets away at this rate.
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They'll have to give season tickets away at this rate.
The person in charge of marketing them is going to deserve a bravery medal, that's for sure.
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A ground share at Walsall makes more sense at the moment.
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Trinity Upper is shutting for next season.Apparently letters were despatched yesterday.Bury all the unwanted publicity in 24 hours Villa.Nice.Here's one fans twitter status https://twitter.com/ktvilla92
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Seems madness to me. There are supporters there for many many years who have always paid the top prices. People do not need much excuse not to renew, I would say this is one.
How about a bit of smart thinking on pricing etc, at least the first season with a bit of a change in mood (new manager etc) we could sell at least as many as this year
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short sighted and another reason not to renew
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Trinity Upper is shutting for next season.Apparently letters were despatched yesterday.Bury all the unwanted publicity in 24 hours Villa.Nice.Here's one fans twitter status https://twitter.com/ktvilla92
Received my letter this morning offering £60 discount on renewal for inconvenience - will reallocate seats on basis of how long in upper tier. I have only been in upper tier 2 yrs so will be near back of queue. I was in middle trinity for years and have had season ticket for 48 years since 1968 but had to move from middle trinity 2 yrs ago when my dad died because no concessions were available as concession died with him and couldn't afford 2 adult tickets as I wanted 1 adult and one under 18. They don't care so why should I? Next season I can plan my Friday nights, Saturday lunchtimes, Saturday afternoons, Saturday evenings, Sunday lunchtimes, Sunday afternoons, Monday nights, Tuesday nights, Wednesday nights and Thursday nights without having to change plans or work around the ever changing kick off times that will come with the Championship. Thank you Aston Villa for helping me to get a life after devoting myself to AVFC for the last 53 years.
GOODBYE ASTON VILLA - R.I.P.
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Wow, that is incredible - so they don;lt think we'll sell out any games, that the support would come swarming back with a bit of ambition and success. Have they not looked at the crowds last time we were down there? Seems to me they know that we are not going to be competetive next season!!
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Why not price it to fill it?
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Why not price it to fill it?
Because that would be sensible and show a moderate amount of ambition
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A daft decision.
Not only is it inconveniencing the fans, but it makes us look as small time as the no marks down the road.
Why not put in place a pricing structure to recompense the season ticket holders who've swallowed so much garbage at home over the past five years, where we've won 20 games. If it is just for one season, as seems increasingly unlikely given events, then getting cheap season tickets in place to get 30 odd thousand in the ground every other week would help build an atmosphere and a sense of re-birth.
Close the place down. What's the bloody point?
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These guys just don't get it. They think the solution is to shrink and shrink and shrink the Club. They are killing us in every sense. Seriously everyone, new boardroom gone, closing of stands...this is reminding me of Wolves in the 1980s. Closing the top tier of the Trinity is confirmation to me that there are no takeover talks going on at all either, this is all short-sighted crisis management. We have to really wake up now as supporters and do something before we just drop through the leagues. I have not known anything like this in three decades of supporting Villa. I've heard stories about the decline in the 1960s, this must surely be setting off the alarm bells of older fans?
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I'd imagine they will open it when the demand is there for certain games.
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They're winding the club down. Start well in the Championship and we could attract some big crowds. We certainly will in our derby games. If we're top of the league, we will sell the place out.
The whole club is giving up, downsizing and hunkering down for life in the lower leagues. I actually find this incredible. But mainly sickening.
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A Huddersfield fan at work reckons they've already sold 15,000 season tickets for next season as they are reduced to £180. This is more then the average gate this season.
They are £179, £69 for age 8-17, £23 for under 8s. They have actually sold 11,000 so far, the reduced price offer is limited to the first 15,000 and they expect to sell them all.
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The whole club is giving up, downsizing and hunkering down for life in the lower leagues. I actually find this incredible. But mainly sickening.
That's exactly my take on it.
Gave up on the premier league in January, given up on even trying to attract decent crowds next season, pissing off people who have paid top dollar for years (in several cases) by making them move.
Every single thing about this football club is depressing as fuck and screams "stopped trying".
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They're winding the club down. Start well in the Championship and we could attract some big crowds. We certainly will in our derby games. If we're top of the league, we will sell the place out.
The whole club is giving up, downsizing and hunkering down for life in the lower leagues. I actually find this incredible. But mainly sickening.
It seems that Lerner's actual aim is to make is some piss pot mid-table third division outfit.
"Nobody could be worse than that snake Ellis" - well I guess we were wrong.
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Not content with making the club smaller they now want to make the ground smaller too.
Our history shows that we'll get behind a team heading in the right direction, regardless of what division they occupy.
This is yet another example that the club has given up.
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They're winding the club down. Start well in the Championship and we could attract some big crowds. We certainly will in our derby games. If we're top of the league, we will sell the place out.
The whole club is giving up, downsizing and hunkering down for life in the lower leagues. I actually find this incredible. But mainly sickening.
It seems that Lerner's actual aim is to make is some piss pot mid-table third division outfit.
"Nobody could be worse than that snake Ellis" - well I guess we were wrong.
Perhaps this was Lerner's idea? 'Oh, just close off some of the ground, we rarely sell out anyway.' Has he any idea what kind of message this sends out?
It's yet another reason why we can never compare ourselves to Newcastle as far as bouncing back is concerned. This would never happen there in a million years.
Lerner is cancerous, he needs to be cut out.
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I've nothing rational to add to this discussion that hasnt already been said, other than I dispise these wankers in charge of our club.
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Also shows there is no pending sale of the club - why would you close part of the ground if you were about to sell.
Shocking news - the last 24 hours have been horrendous
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The whole club is giving up, downsizing and hunkering down for life in the lower leagues. I actually find this incredible. But mainly sickening.
That's exactly my take on it.
Gave up on the premier league in January, given up on even trying to attract decent crowds next season, pissing off people who have paid top dollar for years (in several cases) by making them move.
Every single thing about this football club is depressing as fuck and screams "stopped trying".
Agree entirely.
The ridiculous thing is, we clearly haven't reached the bottom of this plummet either.
Can anybody else recall this happening at a club, where the owner was a complete virus corroding everything from within and simply giving up?
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Hi , just joined the forum and I thought I'd let you know that I've received a similar letter about my Season Ticket in the North Stand. Basically the back 7 rows of the Lower North are being removed for extra wheelchair places. I've been offered a £35 sweetener to take another seat.
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Although we haven't seen the detail yet with regard to prices,marketing and ambition for next season,it appears that like the last 5 seasons,it'll be done in a lowering expectations,meddling way.
Clubs like Huddersfield,Wigan,Bradford are all restructuring their pricing,all seeking new committed supporters.As Malcom remarks indicate,the pricing has to be right next year,especially with regard to concessions and the long standing loyalty of many.
One thing I always imagined when Lerner brought us,was that the club would be marketed with panache and vigour,it now seems like every move is a purely reactive one,and we are constantly fire fighting.
I seriously hope we do not seek to recover as much income as possible off the suffering faithful.
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Hi , just joined the forum and I thought I'd let you know that I've received a similar letter about my Season Ticket in the North Stand. Basically the back 7 rows of the Lower North are being removed for extra wheelchair places. I've been offered a £35 sweetener to take another seat.
I'm all for extra wheelchair spaces but am also sorry you are having to be moved
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Hi , just joined the forum and I thought I'd let you know that I've received a similar letter about my Season Ticket in the North Stand. Basically the back 7 rows of the Lower North are being removed for extra wheelchair places. I've been offered a £35 sweetener to take another seat.
Just turn up in a wheelchair.
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Hi , just joined the forum and I thought I'd let you know that I've received a similar letter about my Season Ticket in the North Stand. Basically the back 7 rows of the Lower North are being removed for extra wheelchair places. I've been offered a £35 sweetener to take another seat.
Just turn up in a wheelchair.
Is that a joke?
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One thing I always imagined when Lerner brought us,was that the club would be marketed with panache and vigour,it now seems like every move is a purely reactive one,and we are constantly fire fighting.
When we first had Acorns on our shirts, myself and most other Villans thought it was a fine benevolent gesture. The more I think about it, the more convinced I am that it was a cynical PR move to make up for the fact that we had not secured a shirt sponsor. It would certainly fit the pattern of sheer chaos, neglect and duplicity that has become Lerner's trademark.
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Wheelchair space at the back of the lower north.... which spends most of the game stood up.
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Moving my seat , or the turning up in a wheelchair?
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Moving my seat , or the turning up in a wheelchair?
The wheelchair reply from a moderator
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Does seem a bit odd. Although as it is seven rows being cordoned off, maybe it is only one row of wheelchair fans and six empty rows in front to ensure their view won't be blocked?
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Moving my seat , or the turning up in a wheelchair?
The wheelchair reply from a moderator
Oh, come on. Don't choose to be offended by what was obviously a joke.
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Hi , just joined the forum and I thought I'd let you know that I've received a similar letter about my Season Ticket in the North Stand. Basically the back 7 rows of the Lower North are being removed for extra wheelchair places. I've been offered a £35 sweetener to take another seat.
How will wheelchair users get up the back of the North Stand?
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Moving my seat , or the turning up in a wheelchair?
The wheelchair reply from a moderator
Oh, come on. Don't choose to be offended by what was obviously a joke.
I'm a season ticket holder in the disabled section. Trying to get a ticket is like trying to find rocking horse shit when you are not a season ticket holder.
If you or he find it funny you are in my opinion pretty low
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Moving my seat , or the turning up in a wheelchair?
The wheelchair reply from a moderator
I did guess, the letter states Rows L to R are being removed in Blocks R1 to R7.
It'll apparently create 50 extra wheelchair places.
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Whilst it's undoubtedly a kick in the nuts to anyone with a season ticket up there, in the past couple of months it's been incredibly sparse up there - anyone sitting there has pretty much had a block to themselves.
So given we'll probably struggle to average 30,000 next season it makes sense to start off with it shut. I'm sure if we actually manage to sort our shit out and start romping the league, the fans will return and the club will reopen it. I know that won't help season ticket holders who've moved but it's not a permanent closure.
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Hi , just joined the forum and I thought I'd let you know that I've received a similar letter about my Season Ticket in the North Stand. Basically the back 7 rows of the Lower North are being removed for extra wheelchair places. I've been offered a £35 sweetener to take another seat.
How will wheelchair users get up the back of the North Stand?
It's level access at the back of the Lower North.
They will build a platform hence taking out 7 rows I guess
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Hi , just joined the forum and I thought I'd let you know that I've received a similar letter about my Season Ticket in the North Stand. Basically the back 7 rows of the Lower North are being removed for extra wheelchair places. I've been offered a £35 sweetener to take another seat.
Just turn up in a wheelchair.
Is that a joke?
No, not at all, I really am suggesting that someone rocks up in a wheelchair.
Of course it's a joke.
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Moving my seat , or the turning up in a wheelchair?
The wheelchair reply from a moderator
Oh, come on. Don't choose to be offended by what was obviously a joke.
I'm a season ticket holder in the disabled section. Trying to get a ticket is like trying to find rocking horse shit when you are not a season ticket holder.
If you or he find it funny you are in my opinion pretty low
Nobody finds disability funny. The joke was obviously about taking unusual measures to retain his seat. Nothing low in that.
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Gotcha, I missed the 'Lower' bit of the post. Ta.
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Moving my seat , or the turning up in a wheelchair?
The wheelchair reply from a moderator
Oh, come on. Don't choose to be offended by what was obviously a joke.
I'm a season ticket holder in the disabled section. Trying to get a ticket is like trying to find rocking horse shit when you are not a season ticket holder.
If you or he find it funny you are in my opinion pretty low
Genuine question - what was offensive about paulie's obviously tongue in cheek comment?
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Moving my seat , or the turning up in a wheelchair?
The wheelchair reply from a moderator
Oh, come on. Don't choose to be offended by what was obviously a joke.
I'm a season ticket holder in the disabled section. Trying to get a ticket is like trying to find rocking horse shit when you are not a season ticket holder.
If you or he find it funny you are in my opinion pretty low
Nobody finds disability funny. The joke was obviously about taking unusual measures to retain his seat. Nothing low in that.
I think it's sick
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Whilst it's undoubtedly a kick in the nuts to anyone with a season ticket up there, in the past couple of months it's been incredibly sparse up there - anyone sitting there has pretty much had a block to themselves.
So given we'll probably struggle to average 30,000 next season it makes sense to start off with it shut. I'm sure if we actually manage to sort our shit out and start romping the league, the fans will return and the club will reopen it. I know that won't help season ticket holders who've moved but it's not a permanent closure.
This. Regrettable, but we are where we are.
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If you're unhappy at the lack of wheelchair spaces at the club (a legitimate complaint, there are far too few at the moment), then I'd have thought you'd be pleased at the news that they are installing more, rather than stalking the thread looking for something to complain about.
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Whilst it's undoubtedly a kick in the nuts to anyone with a season ticket up there, in the past couple of months it's been incredibly sparse up there - anyone sitting there has pretty much had a block to themselves.
So given we'll probably struggle to average 30,000 next season it makes sense to start off with it shut. I'm sure if we actually manage to sort our shit out and start romping the league, the fans will return and the club will reopen it. I know that won't help season ticket holders who've moved but it's not a permanent closure.
How about getting an exciting new manager, some good players, and starting the season in hope with a roaring sell-out? No, that's not in the plan. None of it.
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Moving my seat , or the turning up in a wheelchair?
The wheelchair reply from a moderator
Oh, come on. Don't choose to be offended by what was obviously a joke.
I'm a season ticket holder in the disabled section. Trying to get a ticket is like trying to find rocking horse shit when you are not a season ticket holder.
If you or he find it funny you are in my opinion pretty low
Nobody finds disability funny. The joke was obviously about taking unusual measures to retain his seat. Nothing low in that.
I think it's sick
Why?
I'm not making a joke about disability, I'm making a joke suggesting the poster go to extreme (and obviously not realistic) measures to keep his seat.
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Moving my seat , or the turning up in a wheelchair?
The wheelchair reply from a moderator
Oh, come on. Don't choose to be offended by what was obviously a joke.
I'm a season ticket holder in the disabled section. Trying to get a ticket is like trying to find rocking horse shit when you are not a season ticket holder.
If you or he find it funny you are in my opinion pretty low
Genuine question - what was offensive about paulie's obviously tongue in cheek comment?
I think it's a sick thing to say
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Moving my seat , or the turning up in a wheelchair?
The wheelchair reply from a moderator
Oh, come on. Don't choose to be offended by what was obviously a joke.
I'm a season ticket holder in the disabled section. Trying to get a ticket is like trying to find rocking horse shit when you are not a season ticket holder.
If you or he find it funny you are in my opinion pretty low
Genuine question - what was offensive about paulie's obviously tongue in cheek comment?
I think it's a sick thing to say
Doesn't really answer my question. What about it was 'sick'?
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I doubt its just as easy as opening it or closing it, as the club would have to maintain a contingency for staff to man it and also secure a safety certificate for it. Its unlikely given our desire to be smaller than Small Heath that the funds would be there to do that, otherwise they wouldn't bother with such a a pathetic downgrading of the club.
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Can you DRAW a wheelchair though Paulie?
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Moving my seat , or the turning up in a wheelchair?
The wheelchair reply from a moderator
Oh, come on. Don't choose to be offended by what was obviously a joke.
I'm a season ticket holder in the disabled section. Trying to get a ticket is like trying to find rocking horse shit when you are not a season ticket holder.
If you or he find it funny you are in my opinion pretty low
Nobody finds disability funny. The joke was obviously about taking unusual measures to retain his seat. Nothing low in that.
I think it's sick
Why?
I'm not making a joke about disability, I'm making a joke suggesting the poster go to extreme (and obviously not realistic) measures to keep his seat.
It's an option but I'm not sure my son of 6 would be strong enough to push me.
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Moving my seat , or the turning up in a wheelchair?
The wheelchair reply from a moderator
Oh, come on. Don't choose to be offended by what was obviously a joke.
I'm a season ticket holder in the disabled section. Trying to get a ticket is like trying to find rocking horse shit when you are not a season ticket holder.
If you or he find it funny you are in my opinion pretty low
Nobody finds disability funny. The joke was obviously about taking unusual measures to retain his seat. Nothing low in that.
I think it's sick
You have a right to your opinion, but to avoid further offence try looking into the difference between the target and the subject of a joke. They are two very different things, and neither disability nor wheelchair users were the target here.
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Can you DRAW a wheelchair though Paulie?
Ha ha, the oldies are the goldies!
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Perhaps that woman who made the tea and tidied the office a bit took the key to the Upper Trinity with her when she left?
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Moving my seat , or the turning up in a wheelchair?
The wheelchair reply from a moderator
Oh, come on. Don't choose to be offended by what was obviously a joke.
I'm a season ticket holder in the disabled section. Trying to get a ticket is like trying to find rocking horse shit when you are not a season ticket holder.
If you or he find it funny you are in my opinion pretty low
Genuine question - what was offensive about paulie's obviously tongue in cheek comment?
I think it's a sick thing to say
Doesn't really answer my question. What about it was 'sick'?
I find any joke about disability, in this case wheelchair use, sick
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But the joke wasn't about someone who was disabled or a wheelchair user, if he was he wouldn't be moving.
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He hasn't made a joke about disability though has he.
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Moving my seat , or the turning up in a wheelchair?
The wheelchair reply from a moderator
Oh, come on. Don't choose to be offended by what was obviously a joke.
I'm a season ticket holder in the disabled section. Trying to get a ticket is like trying to find rocking horse shit when you are not a season ticket holder.
If you or he find it funny you are in my opinion pretty low
Genuine question - what was offensive about paulie's obviously tongue in cheek comment?
I think it's a sick thing to say
Doesn't really answer my question. What about it was 'sick'?
I find any joke about disability, in this case wheelchair use, sick
It's not a joke about wheel chair use, and it's not a joke about disability, it's a joke about having to go to extreme measures to keep his season ticket seat.
I can't believe anyone would think otherwise. Like there's not already enough to get angry about when you read it on here.
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Moving my seat , or the turning up in a wheelchair?
The wheelchair reply from a moderator
Oh, come on. Don't choose to be offended by what was obviously a joke.
I'm a season ticket holder in the disabled section. Trying to get a ticket is like trying to find rocking horse shit when you are not a season ticket holder.
If you or he find it funny you are in my opinion pretty low
Genuine question - what was offensive about paulie's obviously tongue in cheek comment?
I think it's a sick thing to say
Doesn't really answer my question. What about it was 'sick'?
I find any joke about disability, in this case wheelchair use, sick
I'd agree with you there so maybe you should re-read the joke and realise there's nothing to get offended by.
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Never mind 30,000 average attendance for next season. I think that if Lerner is still in charge, we will be lucky to get between 15K and 20K for some of the matches. I've been a season ticket holder for many seasons but, yesterday's announcements made up my mind to chuck it in until we become a proper football club again!! These Americans only understand one thing, if many people stop going to matches, it won't take long for him to take any price for the club and bugger off!!
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It's an option but I'm not sure my son of 6 would be strong enough to push me.
Maybe Lou can leave Andy in Aston Park and give you a hand
(https://alienationmentale.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/little-britain-lou-and-andy.jpg)
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I'm not apologising for voicing my opinion.
I'm sticking to it
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We could have closed the upper Trinity for most of this season without anyone having difficulty getting a ticket.
You can price to get people back through the gates, or can have a ground that 'feels' fuller, looks better on telly, and creates a better atmosphere to get people through the gate.
It is a pain for those that have to be moved, but I actually think they need to do both.
People need to want to be there - so it needs to not look and sound like a soulless echo chamber when they watch a match on the telly (like St Andrews often does when we're not being relegated and giving them something to sing about) ......and then when they look up the price of a ticket, they need not be thinking 'sod that then!'
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Who has suggested apologising?
I don't want anyone to apologise, I'm mortified at the suggestion I was making a joke about the disabled, though. Hence trying to convince you I wasn't
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I'm not apologising for voicing my opinion.
I'm sticking to it
If your opinion is that you don't agree with jokes about the disabled I think you'll struggle to find someone on here to argue with.
If your opinion is that paulie's joke was targeting the disabled then you've completely and utterly misunderstood it in a way no-one else appears to have.
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Fine
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Fine
My wife says that a lot.
It's normally not fine! ;)
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I think competitively priced STs are the key, if I don't renew and face a journey down to VP to collect single tickets for an uninteresting game then I might not bother.
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I thought Paulie's post was highly amusing and god knows we could do with a bit of a smile at the moment. It's obvious what the joke was about.
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I've come to the conclusion that I am going to renew, more out of sheer bloody minded defiance than for any logical reason.
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Has any other club closed a section upon relegation? It strikes me as being very small time.
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Has any other club closed a section upon relegation? It strikes me as being very small time.
A certain club not very far up the road from us, so "small time" hits the nail on the head.
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The policy of closing off parts of the ground is something that Vitesse Arnhem is also implementing next season. In their particular case, it is specifically because their stadium is too big for their support and they wish to maximize the atmosphere for fans by moving them closer together and closing off the wings. I understand the logic about it and I can see why we would be interested in it too. There will be sharp job cuts following our relegation and that will certainly fall on stewards, catering and ticket staff, so it makes economic sense to close off an entire tier and concentrate the fans together.
Having said all of this, it has an real echo of mothballing about it and gives our detractors more ammunition to label us a club in crisis and decline.
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Has any other club closed a section upon relegation? It strikes me as being very small time.
I've got a feeling that Leeds closed off the top tier of the main stand after they were relegated.
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Has any other club closed a section upon relegation? It strikes me as being very small time.
A certain club not very far up the road from us, so "small time" hits the nail on the head.
Wasn't that more to do with not having a safety certificate for it?
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You can't imagine the Maggots or Sunderland shutting stands if they join us in the Magical Championship Tour.Even if it is subtly subsidized by the club,as in previous seasons up there.
We give 1000-2000 tickets away to local schools for every potential lower attendance game in the premiership.My daughters school in Four Oaks get it 3/4 times a season.All of whom require a cheap adult ticket.Why couldn't we shut the upper North to season ticket holders and fill it with 5/6000 of these for every game in the championship.From Cheltenham to Stafford,there's plenty of schools whom would take up the opportunity. All spending money,all keeping matchday income up.
Instead we'll take the obvious cost cutting selection.
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Has any other club closed a section upon relegation? It strikes me as being very small time.
I've got a feeling that Leeds closed off the top tier of the main stand after they were relegated.
They did. Cardiff too.
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As an example I have just spoke to a family friend who has been a season ticket for way over 30 yrs in Trinity upper, Aston Born. He owns his own business quite successful and Villa has been an obsession for as many years as I can recall.
He says he will not renew, the discount is immaterial to him and quite a few who sit close to him. Most of the people he sits with are long standing season ticket holders mid 40's upwards he thinks most in his section and those he has known for years will not move. They just won't renew.
The problem with this is what we all know, once you stop going you realise you don't miss it. I imagine most on here know very long standing season ticket holders who never missed a game then did not renew one year and have not set foot in the stadium since. When you speak to them, they still care but would not buy a ticket to watch them or even go if given a ticket. Mainly apathy or just convenience as they will watch it on Sky or Match of the day etc
I just think another strategy could work, we have a marketing team and a guy we bought in who was meant to be a marketing success elsewhere, I hate the expression, but surely they can think outside the box and realise that there is another way.
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Problem I have is giving Lerner another penny of my dosh - I love going to VP - I love singing and laughing (hysterically maybe) with those around me in the Holte - I can honestly say I have given up actually watching the football - but the thought of paying £550 to these clowns makes me feel sick...
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4 of us will also be losing our seats in the lower North Stand. Received the letter today. Despite the sweetener of a discount off next season's season ticket sadly that's another 4 "customers" that will be lost next season.
We was deciding whether to renew or not but this has just made our mind up for us! I honestly can't justify giving this current regime any more money!
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What's the drill with Lower North??
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Back 7 rows (Rows L-R)of the North Stand Lower tier (Blocks R1-R7) need to be removed to create a wheelchair viewing platform!!!
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Back 7 rows (Rows L-R)of the North Stand Lower tier (Blocks R1-R7) need to be removed to create a wheelchair viewing platform!!!
Why the objection? I know it is annoying to be removed from a seat that you may have held for a while (since the away fans moved out, perhaps). But this sounds like a positive step to assist disabled customers. Has it really pissed you off so much you wont renew? I'd have thought that of all the reasons not to go next season this would be low on the list.
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I hear you're a racist now paulie.
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Has any other club closed a section upon relegation? It strikes me as being very small time.
Think of a club. The smallest, most shittiest club you can think of. They have a pair of bollocks for a badge, play in blue and have won fuck all.
That's who we're emulating.
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I'm not interested in paying any kind of money to waste my time watching this Randy Lerner Zombie incarnation/parody of Villa.
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Leeds closed the upper tier of one stand.
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What happy bedfellows. The Noses and a synonym for a basket case club.
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That sea of blue seats bang opposite the cameras is going to look great on telly.
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I reckon they are clearing those seats in the Lower North so as Gabby has somewhere to sit.
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That sea of blue seats bang opposite the cameras is going to look great on telly.
We can just do a Mosaic like Arsenal had during the North Bank. Maybe 5,000 Lerner clown heads?
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That sea of blue seats bang opposite the cameras is going to look great on telly.
That's why i thought it would be one of the tiers in the witton lane stand. Anyway i like to think the upper trinity will be opened again as and when the demand is there. It seems like a long time ago that Mr Krulak was talking of expanding the north stand.
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That sea of blue seats bang opposite the cameras is going to look great on telly.
We can just do a Mosaic like Arsenal had during the North Bank. Maybe 5,000 Lerner clown heads?
I was going to suggest that ( actually, a mural). We could paint loads of miserable faces. And a few banners, for the authentic "Villa fan" effect
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Jesus, who invited the daily mail in here?....
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Jesus, who invited the daily mail in here?....
What have I missed? I know paulie is a racist now but has somebody had a pop at migrants and single parents?
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Jesus, who invited the daily mail in here?....
What have I missed? I know paulie is a racist now but has somebody had a pop at migrants and single parents?
You want to go to Off Topic. Paulie's denying climate change and talking up a china figurine of Princess Diana.
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I think it's the right decision with regards the Trinity Upper. That stands only needed if we are going to get any games where over 38,000 turn up. May not be what they want, but moving down one tier for a reduced price doesn't seem that bad an alternative to me for the few hundred ST holders currently up there.
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It's a decision that makes sense, until you think that at the worst possible time they are pissing off 100s of ST holders who pay some of the highest prices in the ground. Isn't it about £550-600 up there? Even if there's only about 400 ST holders up there, that's about a quarter of a million by my reckoning, especially when you add in by match ticket sales. Plus concession purchases. I have my doubts that it will cost that much to staff it next season.
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It's a decision that makes sense, until you think that at the worst possible time they are pissing off 100s of ST holders who pay some of the highest prices in the ground. Isn't it about £550-600 up there? Even if there's only about 400 ST holders up there, that's about a quarter of a million by my reckoning, especially when you add in by match ticket sales. Plus concession purchases. I have my doubts that it will cost that much to staff it next season.
They do pay the most in the ground and it's another piece of bad news they could do without. The timing couldn't be helped though, as the letters would have already been sent before the Bernstein/King resignations.
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Why not price it to fill it?
If they priced it to fill it, those of us paying higher prices in the rest of the ground might get a bit pissed off.
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That sea of blue seats bang opposite the cameras is going to look great on telly.
It'll be the Villa version of Oakland's 'Mount Davis'
(http://cdn3.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1430795/mountdavis1.jpg)
I suggest that we call it 'Lerner Hillock'
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It's a decision that makes sense, until you think that at the worst possible time they are pissing off 100s of ST holders who pay some of the highest prices in the ground. Isn't it about £550-600 up there? Even if there's only about 400 ST holders up there, that's about a quarter of a million by my reckoning, especially when you add in by match ticket sales. Plus concession purchases. I have my doubts that it will cost that much to staff it next season.
They've really done it to piss off people looking for cheap tickets in the wings and then moving central when the game starts ;)
I've always been surprised by the cost of tickets in the UTR. Prices up there are more than I pay behind the home dugout
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Why not price it to fill it?
If they priced it to fill it, those of us paying higher prices in the rest of the ground might get a bit pissed off.
They should shut down the wings of all of the stands and plant tasteful trees and shrubbery. We would go beyond carbon neutrality into exciting new realms of conservation.
I would suggest that the Trinity wing nearest the Holte and the attached wing of the Holte be planted especially thickly and called Dunce Corner after Onegoalayear.
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It's a decision that makes sense, until you think that at the worst possible time they are pissing off 100s of ST holders who pay some of the highest prices in the ground. Isn't it about £550-600 up there? Even if there's only about 400 ST holders up there, that's about a quarter of a million by my reckoning, especially when you add in by match ticket sales. Plus concession purchases. I have my doubts that it will cost that much to staff it next season.
They've really done it to piss off people looking for cheap tickets in the wings and then moving central when the game starts ;)
I've always been surprised by the cost of tickets in the UTR. Prices up there are more than I pay behind the home dugout
I assume it's because it's a better view than the tier. Plus you can avoid the commoners that sit behind the dugout.
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That went well. I've just called them to discuss these premium seats they mention in the letter. After being in queue for 10 mins I was connected...to some kind of conference call facility, before being promptly cut off.
Bring back Ray Fairfax!
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Back 7 rows (Rows L-R)of the North Stand Lower tier (Blocks R1-R7) need to be removed to create a wheelchair viewing platform!!!
Why the objection? I know it is annoying to be removed from a seat that you may have held for a while (since the away fans moved out, perhaps). But this sounds like a positive step to assist disabled customers. Has it really pissed you off so much you wont renew? I'd have thought that of all the reasons not to go next season this would be low on the list.
Whoa....If you read my original post without your "oh so righteous" hat on,I stated that we was already debating not renewing. That was due to "all the reasons not to go next season". I make no apology for stating that today's letter was a deciding factor. My decision would have been the same if they'd taken my seat for wheelchairs,a kid's play park,a herb garden.....whatever! :-\
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It appears it's the straw that broke the camel's back for GP, which none of us can say is wrong or right, it could be a different straw for other posters.
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I find this crazy. Can you imagine if instead of shutting the upper tier they'd offered £ 150 - £ 200 season tickets up there. If they were interested in getting fans back onside, filling the ground and getting back to the Premier League. Positive PR instead of this constant stream of shit.
Like many have said, this is giving up. Not only is Lerner inept, he's toxic.
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They're not interested anymore, everything is about downgrading, costing nothing, cutting and causing the least hassle. Talk about washing their hands of us. Disgrace.
Randy Lerner, a custodian? A fucking coward.
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What happy bedfellows. The Noses and a synonym for a basket case club.
Unfortunately under Lerner we are a basket case club.
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It's a decision that makes sense, until you think that at the worst possible time they are pissing off 100s of ST holders who pay some of the highest prices in the ground. Isn't it about £550-600 up there? Even if there's only about 400 ST holders up there, that's about a quarter of a million by my reckoning, especially when you add in by match ticket sales. Plus concession purchases. I have my doubts that it will cost that much to staff it next season.
I think I paid £640 up there, certainly in excess of 600 anyway. The view is magnificent to be honest
plus I used to frequently take along mates for occasional games. That's a lot of revenue that they will be missing out on
there are 5 of us that sit up there, 4 of us were wavering anyway
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We have been in managed decline mode for years and it is now accelerating.
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Well I guess it saves us laying out the wages for the one person who actually served beers at half time up there.
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4 of us will also be losing our seats in the lower North Stand. Received the letter today. Despite the sweetener of a discount off next season's season ticket sadly that's another 4 "customers" that will be lost next season.
We was deciding whether to renew or not but this has just made our mind up for us! I honestly can't justify giving this current regime any more money!
im in row q in the lower north and was going to renew almost purely down to i like the lads around me and we have a laugh
so unless they do the right thing and make the price 250 quid i wont renew
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Crikey, just had a letter from 'The Villa'. They are going to evict me from my seat in the lower north stand. Apparently, the are going to make my area, more wheelchair friendly. So, the back severn rows ( just in my block? going to read it properly after tea )are to disappear to make a disabled viewing area, with access for wheelchairs.
Looks like I will be back in the holte end, next year, Think I'm getting £35 pounds reallocation allowance :)
If anyone wants more info I will scan the letter and email it to you.
Allo Lion
is it too late for April Fool's Day?
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Why would you put wheelchairs at the back of a stand where most people stand up? Sounds like a bit of trickery here from them to combat the problem?
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Why would you put wheelchairs at the back of a stand where most people stand up? Sounds like a bit of trickery here from them to combat the problem?
There's nowhere else they can be put.
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That's why it will be 7 rows i'd imagine. It's so that there will be enough space between those standing on what will now be the last row and the wheelchair area for there to be no views obstructed in the wheelchair section.
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What's the reason for this, is it that there's not enough space for them in the middle of the Trinity?
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I find this crazy. Can you imagine if instead of shutting the upper tier they'd offered £ 150 - £ 200 season tickets up there. If they were interested in getting fans back onside, filling the ground and getting back to the Premier League. Positive PR instead of this constant stream of shit.
Like many have said, this is giving up. Not only is Lerner inept, he's toxic.
If they did that kind of pricing, there'd be no one sat in any other areas of the ground. You can't have that large a seating area at that much of a discounted price.
One section (like they did with the section of the Upper Witton closet to the away fans) is fine but the UTR is far too big an area to do the same
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What's the reason for this, is it that there's not enough space for them in the middle of the Trinity?
Correct, there's no where near enough space. As an earlier poster said, tickets are difficult to get hold of.
Am I right in thinking that there's no area for wheelchair using supporters of the away team, or has that problem been sorted now ?
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What's the reason for this, is it that there's not enough space for them in the middle of the Trinity?
It's been said on here many times before that there aren't enough wheelchair spaces, meaning many disabled fans can't watch games as the wheelchair season tickets etc are hard to get. I'm going by what's been said on here by wheelchair users/carers and also at more than one SCG.
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What's the reason for this, is it that there's not enough space for them in the middle of the Trinity?
Correct, there's no where near enough space. As an earlier poster said, tickets are difficult to get hold of.
Am I right in thinking that there's no area for wheelchair using supporters of the away team, or has that problem been sorted now ?
I think the away supporters are in with the home fans in the disabled area.
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The BBC did a review a couple of years ago of what proportion of the recommended wheelchair accessible facilities were provided by each club and we came 18th out of the 20 in the Prem that year with less than half the recommended spaces. This will have been planned long before relegation became a certainty.
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Seeing as how most of our (admittedly few) shots have ended up hitting the back of the Lower North, this seems like a particularly cruel place to put those with less mobility.
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Leeds are offering a 25% refund on season tickets if they don't make the play-offs next season. Lets see whether Lerner and his cronies have the bollocks to do something similar.
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Who's going to be put on the season ticket literature seeing as most of the players are near hated!
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Who's going to be put on the season ticket literature seeing as most of the players are near hated!
seeing prices would be nice
im betting on a freeze
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Joe Bennett and Nathan Baker.
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Gary Gardner kissing the (new) badge.
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Gary Gardner kissing the (new) badge.
the lions new claws and gary gardner is an accident waiting to happen
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Who's going to be put on the season ticket literature seeing as most of the players are near hated!
seeing prices would be nice
im betting on a freeze
Fuck a freeze, complete rip off.
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Leeds are offering a 25% refund on season tickets if they don't make the play-offs next season. Lets see whether Lerner and his cronies have the bollocks to do something similar.
and if they sell 15,000 season tickets by July 31 2016, and the club does not reach at least the Play-Offs, the Season Ticket refund will increase to 50% of the Season Ticket Price.
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Drastic times call for drastic measures. I've called an emergency meeting of the Trinity Upper Ultras in the boozer pre match Saturday to canvas opinion. This is bigger and more crucial than the Brexit debate.
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What's the reason for this, is it that there's not enough space for them in the middle of the Trinity?
It's been said on here many times before that there aren't enough wheelchair spaces, meaning many disabled fans can't watch games as the wheelchair season tickets etc are hard to get. I'm going by what's been said on here by wheelchair users/carers and also at more than one SCG.
Yes PWS, you are spot on with your post.
As I said from the outset, I welcome more wheelchair spaces but I am sorry that season ticket holders have to give up their space for it to happen
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This will create a clash between the persistent standers and wheel chair supporters. The persistent standing supporters who will be reallocated will go stand somewhere else, where standing is not the norm, this will cause another clash. Its taken a while to create segregated areas for standing fans and sitting, this is a backward step, wheel chair supporters should be accommodated but some where else like the witton lane, but not the north stand lower.
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The north stand lower is a place where working class lads 14-50 years old congregate. They persistently stand and are passionate about AVFC. They are exactly the people the Establishment and people who make decisions at villa hate.
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Putting disabled fans behind fans who stand all game, and what about games like Blues when the whole lower tier stands all game? Makes sense ::)
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This will create a clash between the persistent standers and wheel chair supporters. The persistent standing supporters who will be reallocated will go stand somewhere else, where standing is not the norm, this will cause another clash. Its taken a while to create segregated areas for standing fans and sitting, this is a backward step, wheel chair supporters should be accommodated but some where else like the witton lane, but not the north stand lower.
Surely they'll just relocate to one of these other "segregated areas for standing"? Which are where, by the way? Only asking as I'm getting booted out of my seat, and I'm looking to not have to ask the new bloke in front of me to sit down all the time.
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Have we decided which will be the standing sections at Wembley for the play-off final yet?
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Meanwhile, Villa have confirmed MirrorSport's revelation from February 8 that they will close the top tier of their Trinity Road Stand next season amid big cut-backs in the Championship.
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Have we decided which will be the standing sections at Wembley for the play-off final yet?
Don't encourage him, he'll be back.
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What happy bedfellows. The Noses and a synonym for a basket case club.
Not sure you can say "basket case" these days Ads, might offend basket cases.
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I suggest that we call it 'Lerner Hillock'
Rhyming slang.
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This will create a clash between the persistent standers and wheel chair supporters. The persistent standing supporters who will be reallocated will go stand somewhere else, where standing is not the norm, this will cause another clash. Its taken a while to create segregated areas for standing fans and sitting, this is a backward step, wheel chair supporters should be accommodated but some where else like the witton lane, but not the north stand lower.
Surely they'll just relocate to one of these other "segregated areas for standing"? Which are where, by the way? Only asking as I'm getting booted out of my seat, and I'm looking to not have to ask the new bloke in front of me to sit down all the time.
if you observed around villa park where persistent standing is observed you will know.Some of the lads in the north lower wont be renewing and some wont even pick and choose games, as standing with our mates and having a bit of laugh was the only thing left we had at villa park.
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The atmosphere will be absolutely dreadful with that section gone. The atmosphere is very good in there at times, especially this season there has been some funny banter and good humour. The Holte is too far away from the away end to have any kind of banter. With those lads in the lower North missing completely or dispersed around the ground it will be diluted.
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Putting disabled fans behind fans who stand all game, and what about games like Blues when the whole lower tier stands all game? Makes sense ::)
I hope there are sufficient toilets for the disabled in the lower north as well.
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I sit in the Upper Trinity a lot as the club always puts cheapish tickets out on the Viagogo/SeatWave sites.
Let's be honest though it's a third full for many premier league games and aside from local derbies (Would imagine it will re-open for those games as demand will be much higher and it will be easy for our neighbours to mock) very few will be up there although I sympathize with the season ticket holders.
I think the problem is with the structure of the stand, it's three tiers and the top one is isolated whereas other clubs will just have two tiers so people can spread out around that.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think Leeds shut their upper tier for a fair few games a while ago.
I can see reasons for the club doing this although it just adds to the negativity. If by some miracle we'll well in with a promotion chance I'm sure it will be re opened if the demand is there.
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Hi , just joined the forum and I thought I'd let you know that I've received a similar letter about my Season Ticket in the North Stand. Basically the back 7 rows of the Lower North are being removed for extra wheelchair places. I've been offered a £35 sweetener to take another seat.
I sat in the Lower North for the first time in about 10 years v Everton and forgot what a piss take it was to get out. Again taking seats out seems a bit drastic but might actually improve that part of the ground with extra space to leave as it is a real bottleneck....and I left on 74 minutes!
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I stay to the end to avoid the crowds and traffic.
/baddumtish
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While I welcome the move for more spaces for those with disabilities, it does seem like an odd choice of area. Being so close to the away fans its often an area with a good atmosphere and also an area where fans rightly or wrongly tend to stand when they can.
Is it because it has easy access all on the same level ?
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Going on memory of the North Stand, there's two rows of terracing with about a 10cm drop per row. So it's about 1m 40cm height over the new back row. That's less than the difference in height between somebody standing and somebody sitting, unless the Harlem Globetrotters are getting freebies. Should be fine.
Regarding the letter sent out, from what I saw of the scan of the letter, they will be putting their new seats from Monday 25th. So presumably the refugees will be getting a look at next years prices then. Please share if you do...
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While I welcome the move for more spaces for those with disabilities, it does seem like an odd choice of area. Being so close to the away fans its often an area with a good atmosphere and also an area where fans rightly or wrongly tend to stand when they can.
Is it because it has easy access all on the same level ?
They might extend it so it joins with the Trinity stand which has good space nowadays, probably stop halfway as I doubt they'll put them right in the corner by the away section and where it all kicks off.
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Going on memory of the North Stand, there's two rows of terracing with about a 10cm drop per row. So it's about 1m 40cm height over the new back row. That's less than the difference in height between somebody standing and somebody sitting, unless the Harlem Globetrotters are getting freebies. Should be fine.
Regarding the letter sent out, from what I saw of the scan of the letter, they will be putting their new seats from Monday 25th. So presumably the refugees will be getting a look at next years prices then. Please share if you do...
Oh so before Newcastle game then?
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I sit in the Upper Trinity a lot as the club always puts cheapish tickets out on the Viagogo/SeatWave sites.
Let's be honest though it's a third full for many premier league games and aside from local derbies (Would imagine it will re-open for those games as demand will be much higher and it will be easy for our neighbours to mock) very few will be up there although I sympathize with the season ticket holders.
I think the problem is with the structure of the stand, it's three tiers and the top one is isolated whereas other clubs will just have two tiers so people can spread out around that.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think Leeds shut their upper tier for a fair few games a while ago.
I can see reasons for the club doing this although it just adds to the negativity. If by some miracle we'll well in with a promotion chance I'm sure it will be re opened if the demand is there.
I have had a season ticket in the Upper Trinity for 10 years but after receiving the letter about it closing and have to relocate, I doubt that I'll be back. Any company that goes out of it's way to upset its customers like that doesn't deserve to succeed and given the current situation, it won't.
They could fill the ground by lowering the prices and thus keeping supporters in the habit of attending matches.
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I sit in the Upper Trinity a lot as the club always puts cheapish tickets out on the Viagogo/SeatWave sites.
Let's be honest though it's a third full for many premier league games and aside from local derbies (Would imagine it will re-open for those games as demand will be much higher and it will be easy for our neighbours to mock) very few will be up there although I sympathize with the season ticket holders.
I think the problem is with the structure of the stand, it's three tiers and the top one is isolated whereas other clubs will just have two tiers so people can spread out around that.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think Leeds shut their upper tier for a fair few games a while ago.
I can see reasons for the club doing this although it just adds to the negativity. If by some miracle we'll well in with a promotion chance I'm sure it will be re opened if the demand is there.
I have had a season ticket in the Upper Trinity for 10 years but after receiving the letter about it closing and have to relocate, I doubt that I'll be back. Any company that goes out of it's way to upset its customers like that doesn't deserve to succeed and given the current situation, it won't.
They could fill the ground by lowering the prices and thus keeping supporters in the habit of attending matches.
this if the club made all season tickets 200 - 300 attendances would hold up
as for opening the top tier of the trinity for local derbies not a chance, our last couple of games against wolves were in the low 30's
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Drastic times call for drastic measures. I've called an emergency meeting of the Trinity Upper Ultras in the boozer pre match Saturday to canvas opinion. This is bigger and more crucial than the Brexit debate.
Randy Lerner has issued a dossier showing that unless we close the Trinity Upper, Aston Villa will be playing in the National League North by 2030, and the whole ground will be consumed by a plague of locusts.
Actually it's because we got outvoted by the chairmen of Birmingham, Albion and Wolves, all savings to be put towards subsidising their season tickets.
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While I welcome the move for more spaces for those with disabilities, it does seem like an odd choice of area. Being so close to the away fans its often an area with a good atmosphere and also an area where fans rightly or wrongly tend to stand when they can.
Is it because it has easy access all on the same level ?
given you can often see police/stewards filming supporters in the lower north for the duration of the game...
the cynic in me tells me that the club are doing deliberately, hence no consultation with supporters.
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While I welcome the move for more spaces for those with disabilities, it does seem like an odd choice of area. Being so close to the away fans its often an area with a good atmosphere and also an area where fans rightly or wrongly tend to stand when they can.
Is it because it has easy access all on the same level ?
given you can often see police/stewards filming supporters in the lower north for the duration of the game...
the cynic in me tells me that the club are doing deliberately, hence no consultation with supporters.
They have to do it by law and there's nowhere else they can.
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I sit in the Upper Trinity a lot as the club always puts cheapish tickets out on the Viagogo/SeatWave sites.
Let's be honest though it's a third full for many premier league games and aside from local derbies (Would imagine it will re-open for those games as demand will be much higher and it will be easy for our neighbours to mock) very few will be up there although I sympathize with the season ticket holders.
I think the problem is with the structure of the stand, it's three tiers and the top one is isolated whereas other clubs will just have two tiers so people can spread out around that.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think Leeds shut their upper tier for a fair few games a while ago.
I can see reasons for the club doing this although it just adds to the negativity. If by some miracle we'll well in with a promotion chance I'm sure it will be re opened if the demand is there.
I have had a season ticket in the Upper Trinity for 10 years but after receiving the letter about it closing and have to relocate, I doubt that I'll be back. Any company that goes out of it's way to upset its customers like that doesn't deserve to succeed and given the current situation, it won't.
They could fill the ground by lowering the prices and thus keeping supporters in the habit of attending matches.
this if the club made all season tickets 200 - 300 attendances would hold up
as for opening the top tier of the trinity for local derbies not a chance, our last couple of games against wolves were in the low 30's
It's wrong of you to say 'no chance'.
Our Derby attendances will fluctuate enormously - by 10,000+ depending on three factors; our form, TV and scheduling.
It's 'no chance' if we're playing mid table on a televised Friday night but every chance if we're both top six on a Saturday at three pm.
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There's a lot to be said for lowering prices to attract/retain support. Heaven knows we are at our lowest ebb for a long time. Why would the floating fan part with their money when the whole place is in such a mess? We should be doing everything we can to make people want to be part of a revival, even if we don't really believe it ourselves; this is what we pay our marketing team for. As it is, they're probably too busy trying to flog advertising space on those huge plastic sheets we'll have covering the empty seats...
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I hope that whatever happens, people remain civil if they get a call asking them if they'll be renewing.
It's not the staff's fault we're shit and a lot of them will be worried about their jobs.
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I sit in the Upper Trinity a lot as the club always puts cheapish tickets out on the Viagogo/SeatWave sites.
Let's be honest though it's a third full for many premier league games and aside from local derbies (Would imagine it will re-open for those games as demand will be much higher and it will be easy for our neighbours to mock) very few will be up there although I sympathize with the season ticket holders.
I think the problem is with the structure of the stand, it's three tiers and the top one is isolated whereas other clubs will just have two tiers so people can spread out around that.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think Leeds shut their upper tier for a fair few games a while ago.
I can see reasons for the club doing this although it just adds to the negativity. If by some miracle we'll well in with a promotion chance I'm sure it will be re opened if the demand is there.
I have had a season ticket in the Upper Trinity for 10 years but after receiving the letter about it closing and have to relocate, I doubt that I'll be back. Any company that goes out of it's way to upset its customers like that doesn't deserve to succeed and given the current situation, it won't.
They could fill the ground by lowering the prices and thus keeping supporters in the habit of attending matches.
this if the club made all season tickets 200 - 300 attendances would hold up
as for opening the top tier of the trinity for local derbies not a chance, our last couple of games against wolves were in the low 30's
It's wrong of you to say 'no chance'.
Our Derby attendances will fluctuate enormously - by 10,000+ depending on three factors; our form, TV and scheduling.
It's 'no chance' if we're playing mid table on a televised Friday night but every chance if we're both top six on a Saturday at three pm.
no way will wolves or blues be 3pm on a saturday
derby or forest above 38k? if they open the trinity upper for any game next season ill give you 20 quid
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I hope that whatever happens, people remain civil if they get a call asking them if they'll be renewing.
It's not the staff's fault we're shit and a lot of them will be worried about their jobs.
That's a very good point. The ticket office people do a really good job. Although I understand the reason for it, I wonder if making phone calls this time round is a wise idea?
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I sit in the Upper Trinity a lot as the club always puts cheapish tickets out on the Viagogo/SeatWave sites.
Let's be honest though it's a third full for many premier league games and aside from local derbies (Would imagine it will re-open for those games as demand will be much higher and it will be easy for our neighbours to mock) very few will be up there although I sympathize with the season ticket holders.
I think the problem is with the structure of the stand, it's three tiers and the top one is isolated whereas other clubs will just have two tiers so people can spread out around that.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think Leeds shut their upper tier for a fair few games a while ago.
I can see reasons for the club doing this although it just adds to the negativity. If by some miracle we'll well in with a promotion chance I'm sure it will be re opened if the demand is there.
I have had a season ticket in the Upper Trinity for 10 years but after receiving the letter about it closing and have to relocate, I doubt that I'll be back. Any company that goes out of it's way to upset its customers like that doesn't deserve to succeed and given the current situation, it won't.
They could fill the ground by lowering the prices and thus keeping supporters in the habit of attending matches.
this if the club made all season tickets 200 - 300 attendances would hold up
as for opening the top tier of the trinity for local derbies not a chance, our last couple of games against wolves were in the low 30's
It's wrong of you to say 'no chance'.
Our Derby attendances will fluctuate enormously - by 10,000+ depending on three factors; our form, TV and scheduling.
It's 'no chance' if we're playing mid table on a televised Friday night but every chance if we're both top six on a Saturday at three pm.
no way will wolves or blues be 3pm on a saturday
derby or forest above 38k? if they open the trinity upper for any game next season ill give you 20 quid
Thank you - is anyone else brave enough to match this bold offer?
Or are you all yellow?
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If we are top of the league and winning every week the fans will flood back. But I imagine we'll be upper mid table at best so to maximise income they need to lower prices to boost attendances and then I can have my seat in the Upper Trinity back.
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When are they publishing the prices? They must know them by now.
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When are they publishing the prices? They must know them by now.
Probably waiting for another shambolic bad news day to bury the prices.
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What depresses me is that we are planning for failure. A radical pricing structure could fill the ground. Will we close the Witton Upper tier when we get relegated again?
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They would be even more mad to release season tickets news amongst this sea of despair, do it when there is some good news, or failing that, some not quite so bad news.
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They would be even more mad to release season tickets news amongst this sea of despair, do it when there is some good news, or failing that, some not quite so bad news.
They've backed themselves in to a corner as the letters sent to the Upper Trinity season ticket holders said they could renew next week so prices will have to be released by then.
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This sounds insane but I wish they'd hurry up. I just want to sort my seat out and pay up. They're losing interest earnings by the day the buffoons.
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A lot of people say they are not going to renew then weaken as the reality of Saturday's in Ikea form in the mind, after this season and all the goings on I reckon the longer they wait the better for sales.
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I'd rather get a ST at the Albion than spend Saturday's in IKEA.
And I'm not completely sure I'm joking either.
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If you build a decent shed in your back garden and have decent wifi in your house you can beat off to internet porn and tell your missus that you are watching the Villa.
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If you build a decent shed in your back garden and have decent wifi in your house you can beat off to internet porn and tell your missus that you are watching the Villa.
My wife would be far more understanding of the porn.
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If you build a decent shed in your back garden and have decent wifi in your house you can beat off to internet porn and tell your missus that you are watching the Villa.
My wife would be far more understanding of the porn.
think i would rather beat off in the house looking at the shed
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I'd rather get a ST at the Albion than spend Saturday's in IKEA.
And I'm not completely sure I'm joking either.
Well the club does see us as customers, perhaps a different provider will teach them.
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While I welcome the move for more spaces for those with disabilities, it does seem like an odd choice of area. Being so close to the away fans its often an area with a good atmosphere and also an area where fans rightly or wrongly tend to stand when they can.
Is it because it has easy access all on the same level ?
given you can often see police/stewards filming supporters in the lower north for the duration of the game...
the cynic in me tells me that the club are doing deliberately, hence no consultation with supporters.
They have to do it by law and there's nowhere else they can.
I didn't realise how far behind we were with Villa Park only holding 74 disabled places in the ground for home fans, and eight for away.
We should have 214 wheelchair spaces - 182 home and 32 away - just to meet the bare minimum criteria according to Level Playing Field and the club are rightly now creating 50 more accessible options for fans this summer to slowly start bringing us into line.
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Someone on Twitter saying Season Ticket info to be released today.
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On the official site now, no change a chance missed by the misguided fools running the club.
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http://dlvr.it/L6X6HB
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"Your support has been outstanding as always this term and we want you to be with us for next season's journey as we aim for promotion back to the top-flight, with derby games against the likes of Blues and Wolves on the horizon."
Surprised they didn't mention the added value of extra games too.
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The fucking, bastard, fucking fuckers.
"Swift return......"
"Derby games agains the shit and the dingles to look forward to ...."
And they are using that as marketing.
We knew they would but fuck it all to hell!!!
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This made me smile:
"Anyone who buys their season ticket - or renews it - by May 31 will have the price fixed on their seat for the following 2017/18 season."
Does that mean they're definitely increasing the price for the following season irrespective of what division we're in?
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(http://www.avfc.co.uk/javaImages/6/9e/0,,10265~14523910,00.jpg)
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On the official site now, no change a chance missed by the misguided fools running the club.
Standard price tickets reduced by £10
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This made me smile:
"Anyone who buys their season ticket - or renews it - by May 31 will have the price fixed on their seat for the following 2017/18 season."
Does that mean they're definitely increasing the price for the following season irrespective of what division we're in?
...or if the prices drop overall, those that renew by May 31 won't benefit ?
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£700 for me and my nipper (U8) Holte Upper works out £30 per game. Could be £19.78 per game in North Stand lower but rather keep seats.
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So unimaginative as usual. I wish they'd just fuck off.
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Adult season ticket prices have been reduced across the stadium for the 2016/17 campaign.
Your support will be invaluable as we look for a swift return to the Premier League.
Your support has been outstanding as always this term and we want you to be with us for next season's journey as we aim for promotion back to the top-flight, with derby games against the likes of Blues and Wolves on the horizon.
Season tickets are on sale to supporters from Wednesday April 27.
Prices start at £325 for adults or £14.13 per game, with top-priced tickets at £595.
Junior prices begin at £85 or £3.69 per game.
Anyone who buys their season ticket - or renews it - by May 31 will have the price fixed on their seat for the following 2017/18 season.
Fans can continue to spread payments interest-free over four and nine months via the Zebra Finance scheme if purchased before May 27.
You'll also receive a 3% Villa Cash balance too.
Villa Cash is a rewards scheme that runs each season from August 1 to July 31 - and season ticket holders are automatically enrolled.
You can choose to spend your Villa Cash balance how you like - on home tickets, merchandise, stadium tours, events, soccer schools or hospitality.
As part of the season ticket holder package, you'll also get our first home Cup game of the term FREE as well as priority access to away tickets.
You'll also receive a 3% Villa Cash balance too - That's another reduction, isn't it ? ...........EDIT - Yes it is, this year it was 5% and for 2014/15 it was 10%
you'll also get our first home Cup game of the term FREE - Reinstating a benefit we use to get
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On the official site now, no change a chance missed by the misguided fools running the club.
Standard price tickets reduced by £10
Wow.... a whole tenner. Well, thank you kind sir, I doff my cap to you sir.
Piss is indeed being taken as expected
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Are the red areas being closed or just not sold as STs?
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This made me smile:
"Anyone who buys their season ticket - or renews it - by May 31 will have the price fixed on their seat for the following 2017/18 season."
Does that mean they're definitely increasing the price for the following season irrespective of what division we're in?
...or if the prices drop overall, those that renew by May 31 won't benefit ?
Indeed
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Hold on, I thought they were closing the upper Trinity?
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Well that is fucking shite.
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I can imagine the meeting that took place.
Ok, we've just had our worst season in the clubs History. 9 defeats on the trot. Relegated by February. Crowds are declining, the board has just walked out, we have no manager and the players are openly hated because of their lack of desire and effort and we will be playing in a lower division for the first time in a generation.
What do you think we can do to stem the tide and try and keep crowds up and them on side a little?
I know, let's knock a tenner off, that should do the trick.
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On the official site now, no change a chance missed by the misguided fools running the club.
Standard price tickets reduced by £10
Wow.... a whole tenner. Well, thank you kind sir, I doff my cap to you sir.
Piss is indeed being taken as expected
Only stating a fact -no need to take the piss out of me, mate.
And as for your question about the red areas - they're not closed - they're the prices in the red column. The only places not available for ST's is the away section and the Upper Trinity
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They are never going to win on the pricing, but fuck me the most depressing part of it is that is now all so real.
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Hold on, I thought they were closing the upper Trinity?
They are, the original graphic I posted was from last year. I later updated it
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Only stating a fact -no need to take the piss out of me, mate.
CJ - I was taking the piss out of them (aka those who decided the pricing structure), not you
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So our big push to fill the place out and "roar them on to promotion" is to charge the same price for an inferior product and close parts of the ground? Fucking brilliant.
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Only stating a fact -no need to take the piss out of me, mate.
CJ - I was taking the piss out of them (aka those who decided the pricing structure), not you
Ah, my bad - apologies for the misinterpretation on my part. Blame it on over-sensitivity because of the shit storm we're in!
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Completely understandable CJ
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What a load of crap. Why not do a proper reduction, like 10 or 20%, not £10! Could have thrown in all Cup games for free for ST holders.
Also shows that as we already feared the fans have no power, including the likes of AVST who wrote a letter campaigning for a proper reduction and innovative marketing.
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A tenner off !!??
Another nail in the coffin for a lot of people .
If the arseholes at the club had a fucking clue - and sacked Gabby - saving his £3M a year salary , they could knock £150 off each season ticket for 20,000 people .
But that would make too much sense .
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Those prices are a disgrace and an insult to us supporters who have stuck with the club again this season.
So pissed off when I saw them I knocked a cup of tea over - which went into a draw and soaked my Watford tickets.
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Well that is fucking shite.
It is, but I suppose they would argue that as it is more games the pro rata reduction is greater. Never mind that we are getting an inferior product.
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I just feel it's just another show of contempt for the fans.
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Well that is fucking shite.
It is, but I suppose they would argue that as it is more games the pro rata reduction is greater. Never mind that we are getting an inferior product.
and a few of them will be midweek, as to get up there from Cambridge is a bastard nightmare...grrr
UTV
The Doc
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They are never going to win on the pricing, but fuck me the most depressing part of it is that is now all so real.
Yes they could win...by knocking at least £50 off them.
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Well that is fucking shite.
It is, but I suppose they would argue that as it is more games the pro rata reduction is greater. Never mind that we are getting an inferior product.
The quality of the Villa's opposition may be inferior over the season but if we're lucky, we'll have a similar squad to the current one so you could argue that the "product" is the same as before and therefore this represents a genuine steal for the loyal consumer.
Providing we hang onto Micah Richards and using my season ticket in L7 as a guide, it'll be £4.37 per game less for the privilege of seeing him surge into the opposition half, lose possession and be hopelessly out of position as the visitors open the scoring. Snap those tickets up.
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I think it just shows how stale the club is. There is no imagination or marketing strategy about it. What will happen as we all know is that our core base will renew (18000 to 20000?) we will get a smaller percentage than normal of those wavering and then the rest will pay on a game by game basis.
We also know from experience of Leeds etc that a big draw like us will get lots of games moved to inconvenient times at relative short notice so lots of "pay per game" people will not go. Why recruit a new marketing guy when other than a couple of amendments you could have copied and pasted this from the last 5 years.
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They know a lot of people will pay it. A lot won't, though. I did briefly consider supporting my club in its hour of need as it battles its way out of a tough league, but now I know I'll be able to pick and choose games as I wish, anywhere in the ground (apart from the upper Trinity), I won't bother.
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Dominic is spot on.Where's the imagination,the marketing foresight amongst a genuine opportunity to lay down a marker about the club-supporter axis.They've done the absolute obvious with the odd sneaky amendment(cash).
Whatever happens,we desperately need a rapid realignment of our faith after this year.Personally I'd have scaled it back dependent on years of suffering..£50 off for 5 years plus...£30 off for anything over a year..with the added bonus they you get the fixed price for next year.I'd have also attempted to make more of the concessions available and priced aggressively ...e.g the adult jnr combo could've been £500 in the lower trinity,Witton and Upper Holte.
Give people the hope back(which will naturally occur when we get a new manager/odd signing) and give people the excuse in terms of pricing and it'd be on a par with the last 4/5 seasons attendance wise.
I'm renewing,I'm desperate for my 14 year old to see us win a few,maybe even a few aways,and actually see him get on the train at Aston with a smile and a performance to talk about.I'm not sure how many of his peers will be there next season with this fudge.
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The really frustrating thing is that until about 2009 they would have marketed the bollox out of this, come up with some genuinely imaginative pricing and made us feel we wanted to get relegated.
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Was Middle Trinity not £625 this season? Thats would be £30 reduction so approx 5% ....I can't find online prices but know I paid £615 season before and thought it went up slightly
What ever the price we would be unhappy .....
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Mine's only gone down a fiver. I thought they might have knocked off a bit more than they have, not just to entice people to renew, but to encourage newbies to buy one. Overall, they could have done a lot better than they have.
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Was Middle Trinity not £625 this season? Thats would be £30 reduction so approx 5% ....I can't find online prices but know I paid £615 season before and thought it went up slightly
What ever the price we would be unhappy .....
It was £615 last season too, so £20 equating to a huge 3.25% reduction.
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15000 paying 500
30000 paying 250
it shouldnt be that difficult to work out. more matchday revenue and a fuller ground and better atmosphere
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£200-250 would have been reasonable in the shit league.
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Before I start I would obviously have wanted better pricing BUT the Club couldn't really win ....
Lets just look at Middle Trinity - selfish but thats where I sit
2015-16 £615 for 19 games = 32.36 per game
2016-17 £595 for 23 games = 25.87 per game
There £6.49 saving per game or 20% reduction per game plus one cup ticket
And I am not defending just ytuing to look at it constructive - I have no idea what other Clubs charge
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Well it's consistent with what's been done by other relegated clubs (http://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?topic=55558.msg3020626#msg3020626)in the last two seasons.
Here's (https://i.imgur.com/F0frPRb.jpg)last years prices for reference. The map is the same except for the additional disabled area - not clear where these additional 500 economy tickets are.
Here's (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/sep/03/championship-ticket-prices-52-pounds-game) what other clubs charge in the Championship - looks like we're now average-priced.
As for me renewing, I'm in two minds. Part of me says 'keep the faith', part of me says 'all hope has been extinguished'.
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L2 Lower Holte £10 off from last year over 65 same price
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So our big push to fill the place out and "roar them on to promotion" is to charge the same price for an inferior product and close parts of the ground? Fucking brilliant.
There's no push for anything.
You can bet your bottom dollar they'll be twiddling their thumbs over a manager for a while yet. There's no board, they won't be replaced because cock face had a reality check when he realised what having a board entails.
Will we have scouted anyone properly these last few months? Who knows, we certainly didn't last season.
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Look at what lesser clubs are doing. Look at the list of imaginative ways to use pricing to get back a relationship with a disenfranchised support by AVST. It's a bit cheaper per game.
Buy now and we won't put the price up for you next year. Good luck selling that shit if we are in Division 3.
They had a chance here to price dirt cheap for youngsters to encourage a new generation of support. They have failed miserably.
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It's not just about looking at what other clubs in that shit hole division are charging.
It's about a fan base that are completely disenfranchised and feel like they have no hope. Would it have hurt to have sat down and really talked through what deals could be conjured up? Almost an olive branch to the long suffering renewers. A tempter for the young lads who have gotten bored with it all. The kids who see us with about as often as they have a Birthday.
Zero entertainment on the pitch, zero ambition off of it. Zero brains behind the scenes.
Shit again from these no marks.
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15000 paying 500
30000 paying 250
it shouldnt be that difficult to work out. more matchday revenue and a fuller ground and better atmosphere
It doesn't work like that and never has. Price is one of the smallest factors in gates.
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I'd have preferred them to come up with better incentives, I really wanted to see us trying to fill the place to help us go straight back up.
But at the same time, if you buy the cheapest ST it's £14 a game. Which is probably less than it will be to watch Kiddy in the Conference North/South next season.
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I'm gonna buy my 2-3 in k7 then move across into the best seats that aren't occupied
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15000 paying 500
30000 paying 250
it shouldnt be that difficult to work out. more matchday revenue and a fuller ground and better atmosphere
It doesn't work like that and never has. Price is one of the smallest factors in gates.
Not necessarily true. As I've mentioned in earlier posts Huddersfield have cut their prices to £179 and have big concessions for kids, sales have doubled from 6000 to 12000. That means about 10% of the population of Huddersfield are season ticket holders. Translate that to the population of Birmingham! (I know that wouldn't happen, but there is potential there).
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15000 paying 500
30000 paying 250
it shouldnt be that difficult to work out. more matchday revenue and a fuller ground and better atmosphere
It doesn't work like that and never has. Price is one of the smallest factors in gates.
so having a 250 quid max price and 50 quid for kids wouldnt lead to a big increase in st holders and guarante we have a decent future support?
price isnt a factor for me but it is to a lot of people
the fan who wants to sit in the holte but cant afford 500 quid but could get a st for him and his 2 kids for 350 and do interest free payments job done
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Exactly
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You'd get more, but not double, so you'd generate less money.
Plotting these price/demand revenue curves isnt all that hard and I doubt even Villa are so crap that they don't have that data.
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I cringed when i read that bit about Wolves and blues. That's embarrassing.
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What pisses me off more is the Villa Cash. From 10% to 5% this season, down to 3% next. That's a sneaky little rise they keep doing while banging on prices are frozen/reduced.
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we have already missed the boat for heavily discounting season tickets. the time we should have done it was when we had maximum sky money and st revenue was 13 million against a turnover of 116 million
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They have missed a trick on rewarding the long term idiots amongst us though. Give them the coming season at a decent reduction and they are all back next year.
Promise to make it cheaper in future years for loyalty, more will renew at that time.
Buy now, at a similar price, and we promise not to charge more next year (potentially in Division 3)? Get to fuck.
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15000 paying 500
30000 paying 250
it shouldnt be that difficult to work out. more matchday revenue and a fuller ground and better atmosphere
It doesn't work like that and never has. Price is one of the smallest factors in gates.
Not necessarily true. As I've mentioned in earlier posts Huddersfield have cut their prices to £179 and have big concessions for kids, sales have doubled from 6000 to 12000. That means about 10% of the population of Huddersfield are season ticket holders. Translate that to the population of Birmingham! (I know that wouldn't happen, but there is potential there).
And even then they probably wouldn't have done so well on the back of a season like we're enduring.
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What will they do?
Start a rumour that the Club is about to be sold.
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What a shower of twats we have running our club. 10 fucking pounds off to watch us struggle in the Championship.
Which twat came up with that idea?
We will be lucky to average 20,000 and after 5 years of utter garbage, to be rewarded with this bullshit is a slap in the face.
For the first time in 25 years I'm considering telling them to shove their season ticket up their arse.
c***s.
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AVST will be majoring this at them at the pre match club thing on Saturday.
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AVST will be majoring this at them at the pre match club thong on Saturday.
Don't let them get your kickers in a twist!
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AVST will be majoring this at them at the pre match club thong on Saturday.
Don't let them get your kickers in a twist!
I just hope they keep it brief.
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What a shower of twats we have running our club. 10 fucking pounds off to watch us struggle in the Championship.
Which twat came up with that idea?
We will be lucky to average 20,000 and after 5 years of utter garbage, to be rewarded with this bullshit is a slap in the face.
I'd also have loved to have received a substantial discount on my next season ticket simply for the dirge we've all had to endure, but the reality is the club will lose a huge slice of TV money and so have to replace it with something else.
I expected the prices to be frozen. A tenner off my season ticket is almost a pointless gesture but I do understand why they've limited it to that. Our seaon ticket money is now more important than at any other time in recent history.
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Ive only been 5 times this season but I'll be getting a season ticket next season im strangely excited about the championship.
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AVST will be majoring this at them at the pre match club thong on Saturday.
Don't let them get your kickers in a twist!
Fucker!
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AVST will be majoring this at them at the pre match club thong on Saturday.
Don't let them get your kickers in a twist!
I just hope they keep it brief.
I heard these events are full of hipsters.
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Ive only been 5 times this season but I'll be getting a season ticket next season im strangely excited about the championship.
I've warmed to it, but I'm probably just making a virtue out of necessity.
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I'm more tempted to get one for next season than I have been the last couple since I gave mine up. Main thing that puts me off, besides being skint!, is that I think we'll be on TV a lot so will have loads of shite KO times.
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What a shower of twats we have running our club. 10 fucking pounds off to watch us struggle in the Championship.
Which twat came up with that idea?
We will be lucky to average 20,000 and after 5 years of utter garbage, to be rewarded with this bullshit is a slap in the face.
I'd also have loved to have received a substantial discount on my next season ticket simply for the dirge we've all had to endure, but the reality is the club will lose a huge slice of TV money and so have to replace it with something else.
I expected the prices to be frozen. A tenner off my season ticket is almost a pointless gesture but I do understand why they've limited it to that. Our seaon ticket money is now more important than at any other time in recent history.
They could have taken a short-term pain/long-term gain hit by dropping the prices a bit more. What they can still do is a bit of a U-turn and say anyone who buys a season ticket at any time next season is guaranteed a price freeze for 2017-18 then a hefty discount (maybe 25%) until we get promoted.
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I will say that in my case, if it was say £250 i'd 99% get one, even at £325 which i know is only £75 more, it's more 50/50.
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Just give me some hope and I'll get a season ticket. That's all I ask. Hope.
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They could have taken a short-term pain/long-term gain hit by dropping the prices a bit more. What they can still do is a bit of a U-turn and say anyone who buys a season ticket at any time next season is guaranteed a price freeze for 2017-18 then a hefty discount (maybe 25%) until we get promoted.
You'd said yourself to someone else that the price won't make a difference. As for the hefty discount, I'd love it, but if it's until we are promoted it'll be unrealistic because the club will need that money more than ever.
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The whole philosophy is the wrong way round, it's all about stinging the loyal fans who they think will pay whatever they're told and kicking people out of seats they've had for years so they won't have to bother opening that section. This way of thinking will result in just Holte being opened for the 13,000 who can afford it in a few years time.
If ever a club needed to build bridges with its fans and show how valued they are, its this club now.
They should be thinking how can we get fans in seats - not how can we alienate them even more.
A seat in the equivalent position to mine at Sunderland next season is exactly £100 cheaper.
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They could have taken a short-term pain/long-term gain hit by dropping the prices a bit more. What they can still do is a bit of a U-turn and say anyone who buys a season ticket at any time next season is guaranteed a price freeze for 2017-18 then a hefty discount (maybe 25%) until we get promoted.
You'd said yourself to someone else that the price won't make a difference. As for the hefty discount, I'd love it, but if it's until we are promoted it'll be unrealistic because the club will need that money more than ever.
That's why I wouldn't reduce the price now but a marketing exercise like this might not make much of a difference short-term but it would get them a bit of goodwill and positive publicity.
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from the off, I will apologise.
I have until now never said anything pro small heath, but aren't they doing a deal , Buy one full price season ticket get a half price one free. which kind of is a sensible way to go.
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Well that's helped me make my mind up - no ST and will attend Saturday 3PM matches and a few others if interesting enough.
Of course if we are sold, Moyesy turns up and is given £100m I retain the right to change my mind...
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from the off, I will apologise.
I have until now never said anything pro small heath, but aren't they doing a deal , Buy one full price season ticket get a half price one free. which kind of is a sensible way to go.
Turn it in. For them it's a good deal but then consider their attendances.
Do you really think we'll only get 17,500 each game next season, on average?
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Unimaginative pricing, just when we needed it most.
I think I'll renew, I'm the dream customer, I'll keep going whatever shit they churn out but the few of us who still go used to be part of 20 odd. Plenty of them were talking about STs if the price was right. It isn't.
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What a shower of twats we have running our club. 10 fucking pounds off to watch us struggle in the Championship.
Which twat came up with that idea?
We will be lucky to average 20,000 and after 5 years of utter garbage, to be rewarded with this bullshit is a slap in the face.
For the first time in 25 years I'm considering telling them to shove their season ticket up their arse.
c***s.
Same here but not only for this but also my experience at the ticket office today. I have two ST's a senior and a junior. I went in to buy two more tickets for a couple of youngsters in the family as I had promised that I will take them to a match. After that transaction I asked if my junior ST can be upgraded to full for the Newcastle game. I was told yes and it's 22 pounds to upgrade. I know the rules and that's what they normally do. I explained that I wanted this done free of charge as a gesture of good will from the club and as my seat is already paid there would be no loss of revenue to the club. No was the answer followed by a verbalisation of rules. I asked the young lady if she could check with someone else if this was possible. She made a call and asked me to hang on as as someone called Ms Richards was coming down to deal with me. 5 minutes and a lady appeared and asked what was the issue. I explained my request. She didn't even wait for me to finish and basically explained the rules and said if she did that it would be very unfair to other fans but she could give me a discount of 4 pounds and upgrade for 18. I said that I could buy a seat for 10 externally. She dismissed that as "well you are not guaranteed to occupy your season ticket seat that way".
This episode basically squeezed the last ounce of goodwill that I had about people running our club!
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Overall I think the adult prices are fair enough, I just think the kids prices could be lower...as all parents like me will know it's pretty difficult to keep your child interested in a team that win 2 home wins in a season.Luckily my 8 year old is Villa mad and I will be getting her 1st ST this summer, but it's going to be hard for a lot of Mum's and Dad's to find and justify the best part of £200 for their nippers when they could be easily be charged £50 for one with an adult paying full price.Missed opportunity IMO.
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Missed a trick or two there The Villa.
I have had to rely on the goodwill of others for some away tickets this season but with the exception of the Arsenal game I have always been able to pick one up somehow.
In 2015 I think it went down to 6 homes for a Wembley cup final ticket - so what is the incentive of actually buying a season ticket, particularly if you sat in the Upper Trinity paid good money for the ticket, only to find them being sold by the club at £15 a match for most homes.
No imaginatiion Aston Villa.
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What a shower of twats we have running our club. 10 fucking pounds off to watch us struggle in the Championship.
Which twat came up with that idea?
We will be lucky to average 20,000 and after 5 years of utter garbage, to be rewarded with this bullshit is a slap in the face.
For the first time in 25 years I'm considering telling them to shove their season ticket up their arse.
c***s.
Same here but not only for this but also my experience at the ticket office today. I have two ST's a senior and a junior. I went in to buy two more tickets for a couple of youngsters in the family as I had promised that I will take them to a match. After that transaction I asked if my junior ST can be upgraded to full for the Newcastle game. I was told yes and it's 22 pounds to upgrade. I know the rules and that's what they normally do. I explained that I wanted this done free of charge as a gesture of good will from the club and as my seat is already paid there would be no loss of revenue to the club. No was the answer followed by a verbalisation of rules. I asked the young lady if she could check with someone else if this was possible. She made a call and asked me to hang on as as someone called Ms Richards was coming down to deal with me. 5 minutes and a lady appeared and asked what was the issue. I explained my request. She didn't even wait for me to finish and basically explained the rules and said if she did that it would be very unfair to other fans but she could give me a discount of 4 pounds and upgrade for 18. I said that I could buy a seat for 10 externally. She dismissed that as "well you are not guaranteed to occupy your season ticket seat that way".
This episode basically squeezed the last ounce of goodwill that I had about people running our club!
Because they didn't give you something for nothing?
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What a shower of twats we have running our club. 10 fucking pounds off to watch us struggle in the Championship.
Which twat came up with that idea?
We will be lucky to average 20,000 and after 5 years of utter garbage, to be rewarded with this bullshit is a slap in the face.
For the first time in 25 years I'm considering telling them to shove their season ticket up their arse.
c***s.
Same here but not only for this but also my experience at the ticket office today. I have two ST's a senior and a junior. I went in to buy two more tickets for a couple of youngsters in the family as I had promised that I will take them to a match. After that transaction I asked if my junior ST can be upgraded to full for the Newcastle game. I was told yes and it's 22 pounds to upgrade. I know the rules and that's what they normally do. I explained that I wanted this done free of charge as a gesture of good will from the club and as my seat is already paid there would be no loss of revenue to the club. No was the answer followed by a verbalisation of rules. I asked the young lady if she could check with someone else if this was possible. She made a call and asked me to hang on as as someone called Ms Richards was coming down to deal with me. 5 minutes and a lady appeared and asked what was the issue. I explained my request. She didn't even wait for me to finish and basically explained the rules and said if she did that it would be very unfair to other fans but she could give me a discount of 4 pounds and upgrade for 18. I said that I could buy a seat for 10 externally. She dismissed that as "well you are not guaranteed to occupy your season ticket seat that way".
This episode basically squeezed the last ounce of goodwill that I had about people running our club!
Because they didn't give you something for nothing?
They've been giving nothing to Villa fans for years.
Still taking the money though.....
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Insane that they haven't reduced prices. If they'd have been imaginative Villa Park could've been close to full and intimating for the yokel opposition. It'll be like a League Cup First Round game every week now, we'll be lucky if we average 25,000.
What an absolute shower of twats.
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The idea of giving those who've had a season ticket for longest is lovely, but the absence of this shows how football is now 'business'. Those who've had their season tickets longest have already shown they're the most likely to renew regardless, so why would a 'business' need to incentivise them? However, I think they may be overestimating people's patience a little.
On the other hand, building in a generic loyalty discount is a better business idea. 5% off after you've held it 5 years, 10% off after 10 years etc - that makes people think more about not renewing because they lose the loyalty bonus & go back to square one. So it helps to 'lock people in' - which could be needed if things get worse before they get better. In my case, a scheme like this would pull the price of mine from £420 (prev. £430) to £378, £15.75 a match. There's the £50 reduction we were looking for, but it's not going to everyone so the losses aren't as great.
They could still build this in on top of what they've announced if they wanted to.
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Was speaking to a Leeds supporting mate last night - this is what they are doing
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36086902
Leeds United have promised to give fans who buy a season ticket for 2016-17 a refund of up to 50% - if the club fail to reach the Championship play-offs.
Fans who buy a ticket before the end of May will receive 25% of their money back if the club sell less than 15,000 tickets by the end of July or 50% if they sell more than that amount.
Leeds have not finished in the top six of the second tier since 2006.
The Elland Road side can not finish in the play-off places this season.
The club said in a statement: "We are more determined than ever to gain promotion from the Championship and are fully committed to doing everything we can to return this great club to the Premier League in 2016-17.
"With the full support of our fans, we believe we can achieve this goal next season."
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The idea of giving those who've had a season ticket for longest is lovely, but the absence of this shows how football is now 'business'. Those who've had their season tickets longest have already shown they're the most likely to renew regardless, so why would a 'business' need to incentivise them? However, I think they may be overestimating people's patience a little.
On the other hand, building in a generic loyalty discount is a better business idea. 5% off after you've held it 5 years, 10% off after 10 years etc - that makes people think more about not renewing because they lose the loyalty bonus & go back to square one. So it helps to 'lock people in' - which could be needed if things get worse before they get better. In my case, a scheme like this would pull the price of mine from £420 (prev. £430) to £378, £15.75 a match. There's the £50 reduction we were looking for, but it's not going to everyone so the losses aren't as great.
They could still build this in on top of what they've announced if they wanted to.
1) Yep, that's why adverts for discounts on various services tend to say say something along the lines of "new customers only"
2) To me this would be a far fairer scheme than heavily discounting tickets in specific areas of the ground.
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I have a season ticket for a club close to where I live here. They increased the season ticket prices this season to a mighty 110Euros (a 20Euro increase), but even a small club like this sweetened this with an incentive, namely that were they were not to finish higher than last season the increase would be refunded to us. I cannot fathom that given what our loyal season ticket holders have been through, that the club could not offer some sweetener to soften the blow of the last few years. The cynic in me thinks that the uncertainty at the club and 500 job losses hanging over everyone’s head has acted as a disincentive to our marketing dept.
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Leeds United have promised fans a refund of up to 50% on season ticket prices if they fail to reach the Sky Bet Championship play-offs next season 2016-17.
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[quote authoWhat a shower of twats we have running our club. 10 fucking pounds off to watch us struggle in the Championship.
Which twat came up with that idea?
We will be lucky to average 20,000 and after 5 years of utter garbage, to be rewarded with this bullshit is a slap in the face.
For the first time in 25 years I'm considering telling them to shove their season ticket up their arse.
c***s.
Same here but not only for this but also my experience at the ticket office today. I have two ST's a senior and a junior. I went in to buy two more tickets for a couple of youngsters in the family as I had promised that I will take them to a match. After that transaction I asked if my junior ST can be upgraded to full for the Newcastle game. I was told yes and it's 22 pounds to upgrade. I know the rules and that's what they normally do. I explained that I wanted this done free of charge as a gesture of good will from the club and as my seat is already paid there would be no loss of revenue to the club. No was the answer followed by a verbalisation of rules. I asked the young lady if she could check with someone else if this was possible. She made a call and asked me to hang on as as someone called Ms Richards was coming down to deal with me. 5 minutes and a lady appeared and asked what was the issue. I explained my request. She didn't even wait for me to finish and basically explained the rules and said if she did that it would be very unfair to other fans but she could give me a discount of 4 pounds and upgrade for 18. I said that I could buy a seat for 10 externally. She dismissed that as "well you are not guaranteed to occupy your season ticket seat that way".
This episode basically squeezed the last ounce of goodwill that I had about people running our club!
Because they didn't give you something for nothing?
They've been giving nothing to Villa fans for years.
Still taking the money though.....
Go or don't go, it's your choice
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It's a strange one, isn't it. People feel compelled to give their support to their club in its darkest hour, but they don't want to be ripped off and taken for mugs in the process. Others just can't justify spending that kind of money on watching a club that, despite all the spin and bullshit, has clearly given up.
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It's a strange one, isn't it. People feel compelled to give their support to their club in its darkest hour, but they don't want to be ripped off and taken for mugs in the process. Others just can't justify spending that kind of money on watching a club that, despite all the spin and bullshit, has clearly given up.
Depends on your outlook, for me the fans ARE the club and not all of us have given up - in fact for some 'giving up' isn't even an option.
The club know this and therefore know they're guaranteed a certain number of renewals.
That number however decreases year on year.
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Thing is the villa are like my kids
You love them when they are good and you love them when they are bad and boy are we bad at the moment.
But for all the moanings we all know that as soon as we get back to winning ways the fans will flock back.
Just like the song we sing to chelski and Man sittay fans "where were you when you where shit"
At least we can say we was always there
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Someone has pointed out the small print regarding Over 65 prices for, what looks like the top tier pricing, can't be right surely?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CgqxZd7WsAAxpnX?format=jpg&name=large)
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That can't be right surely? If it is, it's possibly the most bonkers pricing I've seen since a local charity shop priced up a signed paperback version of Hugh Cornwell's at £150.00. It was made out 'To Steve' so of you know of a massive Hugh Cornwell fan called Steve with more money than sense let me know.
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I dunno about the rest of the ground, but I'm pretty certain that that's been the pricing policy in the UT since 2006.
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Yes always been the case in centre of the Upper Witton
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''Supporters must have been 65 or over as of September 1st 2006''
Is that for real? So you have to be 75 and have held a season ticket for the last 10 years to qualify for an ovr 65's season ticket?
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Yep.
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That can't be right surely? If it is, it's possibly the most bonkers pricing I've seen since a local charity shop priced up a signed paperback version of Hugh Cornwell's at £150.00. It was made out 'To Steve' so of you know of a massive Hugh Cornwell fan called Steve with more money than sense let me know.
nearly as good as a framed bitters shirt in a halesowen charity shop. it had that horrible sandwell logo on and was signed: to derek best wishes from all at the murderer and pickaxe love from ethel, renee and rabid dog. well something like that.
they had it up for offers over 250, i took great delight in telling them on a good day they would get a tenner for the frame
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I've just been looking for a new seat. I love my seat. I am amongst kindred spirits, the same faces for years. The view is unbeatable. I don't want to sit somewhere else. I have the seat I wanted ever since I started having a couple of quid spare to be able to "go in the seats", albeit somewhat different in build from back then.
To everyone responsible for me having to move, a truly heartfelt "fuck you, you utter ******".
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I've just been looking for a new seat. I love my seat. I am amongst kindred spirits, the same faces for years. The view is unbeatable. I don't want to sit somewhere else. I have the seat I wanted ever since I started having a couple of quid spare to be able to "go in the seats", albeit somewhat different in build from back then.
To everyone responsible for me having to move, a truly heartfelt "fuck you, you utter c***s".
Same here. Wankers
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That goes back to when concessions were scrapped for the posh seats and there were a lot on here who said things along the lines of "Fair play, they can sell out at top price and if the old 'uns don't like it there's plenty of other seats." Back then everything they did was right.
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The club really do need to work hard to rebuild good faith with the match going fan base. 'Everyone else does it' isn't really going to cut it anymore.
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Because they didn't give you something for nothing?
Haha...a predictable response from you.
I like to pay a fair amount for everything I receive. I just thought as ground won't be sold out it's no loss to the Club to upgrade my seat. That's all.
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Because they didn't give you something for nothing?
Haha...a predictable response from you.
I like to pay a fair amount for everything I receive. I just thought as ground won't be sold out it's no loss to the Club to upgrade my seat. That's all.
Why is it predictable from me? You ask for something, they don't want to give it away and you get upset.
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Yes ok I am upset.
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I was plesently surprised yesterday when I entered the yew tree pub in Witton , it had been painted claret and blue inside, new management, and cheaper decent beer, in addition to cheaper parking.This reduces further costs and better pre match build up for next season.
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Because they didn't give you something for nothing?
Haha...a predictable response from you.
I like to pay a fair amount for everything I receive. I just thought as ground won't be sold out it's no loss to the Club to upgrade my seat. That's all.
A bit like an airline upgrading your seat when they have the spare capacity really.
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I had been dubious about renewing until yesterday. Two lads (about 16 or 17) have been by us in K3 since the early part of the season - they are ok kids and always say hello politely and seem genuinely pleased when us old gits talk to them. They watch how we react to stuff and follow along. Yesterday I asked if they would be coming next season and they seemed astonished I would ask - it put it in perspective for me - my own lad gave up 3 seasons ago but here are a couple of kids who seem as excited as I was back in the 70's about being at Villa Park on matchday. I will renew even if only for the next generation (even if I am not always a perfect role-model).
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I had been dubious about renewing until yesterday. Two lads (about 16 or 17) have been by us in K3 since the early part of the season - they are ok kids and always say hello politely and seem genuinely pleased when us old gits talk to them. They watch how we react to stuff and follow along. Yesterday I asked if they would be coming next season and they seemed astonished I would ask - it put it in perspective for me - my own lad gave up 3 seasons ago but here are a couple of kids who seem as excited as I was back in the 70's about being at Villa Park on matchday. I will renew even if only for the next generation (even if I am not always a perfect role-model).
Well put
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I will renew mine and my lads even though he is at uni. I can't let the likes of Lerner stop me going, they will be gone one day and we will still be here.
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I will renew mine and my lads even though he is at uni. I can't let the likes of Lerner stop me going, they will be gone one day and we will still be here.
I think that's the conclusion I've come to as well.
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Where I sit I've watched a friend's son grow from a young boy of about 8 to a young lad of 16, goes to home and away games, and for the first time yesterday his mom turned up without him as he just couldn't face it any more. So sad. I'll be there as usual next season - I think it's going to be an interesting year one way or another and the ride could be interesting, and at the end of the day it's just what I do.
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I was plesently surprised yesterday when I entered the yew tree pub in Witton , it had been painted claret and blue inside, new management, and cheaper decent beer, in addition to cheaper parking.This reduces further costs and better pre match build up for next season.
Yeah my mates just took it over , Tony off the Bromford, proper Villa fan
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I was plesently surprised yesterday when I entered the yew tree pub in Witton , it had been painted claret and blue inside, new management, and cheaper decent beer, in addition to cheaper parking.This reduces further costs and better pre match build up for next season.
Yeah my mates just took it over , Tony off the Bromford, proper Villa fan
it's only good news related to anything to do with going the villa all season. After years of horrible beer and poor running, they have got it right, and with a villa landlord even better. I drank so much yesterday I have to have two donner burgers with salad chilli n mayo, as the booze built up a big appetite, resulting in eggy farts.
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The best way to sell the seats is to sell the club and appoint a worthy Manager. I honestly feel the fun factor will be back quickly and seats will sell. An extra four games, better match day experience, some positivity. I would be interested in buying one if those conditions are met. Keep it all as it is and they will be lucky to get 20k average gate.
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I was plesently surprised yesterday when I entered the yew tree pub in Witton , it had been painted claret and blue inside, new management, and cheaper decent beer, in addition to cheaper parking.This reduces further costs and better pre match build up for next season.
Yeah my mates just took it over , Tony off the Bromford, proper Villa fan
it's only good news related to anything to do with going the villa all season. After years of horrible beer and poor running, they have got it right, and with a villa landlord even better. I drank so much yesterday I have to have two donner burgers with salad chilli n mayo, as the booze built up a big appetite, resulting in eggy farts.
Another satisfied customer then
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I was plesently surprised yesterday when I entered the yew tree pub in Witton , it had been painted claret and blue inside, new management, and cheaper decent beer, in addition to cheaper parking.This reduces further costs and better pre match build up for next season.
Yeah my mates just took it over , Tony off the Bromford, proper Villa fan
it's only good news related to anything to do with going the villa all season. After years of horrible beer and poor running, they have got it right, and with a villa landlord even better. I drank so much yesterday I have to have two donner burgers with salad chilli n mayo, as the booze built up a big appetite, resulting in eggy farts.
Another satisfied customer then
more than satisfied with the yew tree booza improvements, Same old experience with the dodgy donner.
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I was plesently surprised yesterday when I entered the yew tree pub in Witton , it had been painted claret and blue inside, new management, and cheaper decent beer, in addition to cheaper parking.This reduces further costs and better pre match build up for next season.
Yeah my mates just took it over , Tony off the Bromford, proper Villa fan
it's only good news related to anything to do with going the villa all season. After years of horrible beer and poor running, they have got it right, and with a villa landlord even better. I drank so much yesterday I have to have two donner burgers with salad chilli n mayo, as the booze built up a big appetite, resulting in eggy farts.
Another satisfied customer then
more than satisfied with the yew tree booza improvements, Same old experience with the dodgy donner.
Just bring some spare underpants for the Newcastle match
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Anybody else renewed yet or am I on my own?
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Waiting for Lerner to foxtrot Oscar.
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I've renewed
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me too
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Haven't been arsed yet but I suppose will eventually.
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at 325 quid , L8 will sell out quick
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Relocated from lower north to L8 with £35 off for inconveniance and my villa cash got it for £278 not bad price.
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I've renewed!
It's in the blood!
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It would be rude not to
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They've not given a deadline yet for ST renewals, have they? Other than the May 31 for frozen prices for 17/18. My seat's still unavailable for new purchasers at the moment (still a few at £325 at the front of the Holte for new purchasers if you're so inclined, just not mine). I'm still not sure, will probably leave it till the last minute.
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They've not given a deadline yet for ST renewals, have they? Other than the May 31 for frozen prices for 17/18. My seat's still unavailable for new purchasers at the moment (still a few at £325 at the front of the Holte for new purchasers if you're so inclined, just not mine). I'm still not sure, will probably leave it till the last minute.
Key dates from PRAVDA.......
Wednesday 27th April
Season Tickets On Sale
Friday 27th May
4 or 9 Month Interest Free Finance Deadline (4 months available after this date subject to 2.3% admin fee)
Tuesday 31st May
Deadline to secure price freeze on 2017/18 season ticket prices
Monday 6th June
Trinity Road Stand Lower and Family Stand Key Renewal Deadline
Wednesday 8th June
North Stand Key Renewal Deadline
Monday 13th June
Trinity Road Stand Middle Key Renewal Deadline
Wednesday 15th June
Holte End Lower Key Renewal Deadline
Friday 17th June
Holte End Upper Key Renewal Deadline
Monday 20th June
Doug Ellis Stand Key Renewal Deadline
Friday 24th June
Final Deadline Day (For existing season ticket holders to claim current seat) & Priority Relocation for North Stand Lower or Trinity Road Upper
Relocations
Saturday 25th June
Relocation Day
Sunday 31st July
2015-16 Villa Cash Deadline
Wednesday 31st August
Deadline For 4 Month Finance Applications (subject to 2.3% admin fee)
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They've not given a deadline yet for ST renewals, have they? Other than the May 31 for frozen prices for 17/18. My seat's still unavailable for new purchasers at the moment (still a few at £325 at the front of the Holte for new purchasers if you're so inclined, just not mine). I'm still not sure, will probably leave it till the last minute.
Wednesday 27th April
Season Tickets On Sale
Friday 27th May
4 or 9 Month Interest Free Finance Deadline (4 months available after this date subject to 2.3% admin fee)
Tuesday 31st May
Deadline to secure price freeze on 2017/18 season ticket prices
Monday 6th June
Trinity Road Stand Lower and Family Stand Key Renewal Deadline
Wednesday 8th June
North Stand Key Renewal Deadline
Monday 13th June
Trinity Road Stand Middle Key Renewal Deadline
Wednesday 15th June
Holte End Lower Key Renewal Deadline
Friday 17th June
Holte End Upper Key Renewal Deadline
Monday 20th June
Doug Ellis Stand Key Renewal Deadline
Friday 24th June
Final Deadline Day (For existing season ticket holders to claim current seat) & Priority Relocation for North Stand Lower or Trinity Road Upper Relocations
Saturday 25th June
Relocation Day
Sunday 31st July
2015-16 Villa Cash Deadline
Wednesday 31st August
Deadline For 4 Month Finance Applications (subject to 2.3% admin fee)
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Renewed today. Me and my brother, moving to L9. Between us we've saved in excess of £700 compared to our outlay of twelve months ago.
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I've renewed too, stayed in lower North but now in Row J.
£405 for myself and 7 year old son.
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I haven't had a reminder yet from the club regarding my season ticket. They are probably not in a hurry with me as, without Lerner going or/and some sort of movement regarding getting new players in, I definately will not be putting any more money into Lerner's pockets. As I've said before, the only thing Americans understand is money in their pocket and, as much as it saddens me to give up my season ticket, he ain't having mine.
Also, as regards price freeze for 2017/2018, I wouldn't worry too much about that as, with the current bunch of twat players, we will end up in League 1 by then so. season ticket prices will actually come down.
In summary, I'll just take my chances and, if things do improve on the playing front, I honestly don't think I'll have too much trouble to get a ticket for any given home match and, at a cheaper price as well.
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I haven't had a reminder yet from the club regarding my season ticket. They are probably not in a hurry with me as, without Lerner going or/and some sort of movement regarding getting new players in, I definately will not be putting any more money into Lerner's pockets. As I've said before, the only thing Americans understand is money in their pocket and, as much as it saddens me to give up my season ticket, he ain't having mine.
Also, as regards price freeze for 2017/2018, I wouldn't worry too much about that as, with the current bunch of twat players, we will end up in League 1 by then so. season ticket prices will actually come down.
In summary, I'll just take my chances and, if things do improve on the playing front, I honestly don't think I'll have too much trouble to get a ticket for any given home match and, at a cheaper price as well.
That's the spirit.
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I have just renewed again even though some midweek home games will be difficult for me to get to because of work...I sit with great friends and love their company at matches, just a shame the Villa are so poor....
UTV
The Doc
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Renewed - £420.
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Dave,
I have been pouring my money into the club for years. I've also tried to back each protest this season. I've written to the club but all futile. In short, and as a last resort, I have run out of patience with what this owner has done to our great club so now, I'm protesting in the best way I think I can. Others may not agree and, that's fair enough but, at this moment in time, as supporters, we are being shit on from a great height by players and Lerner alike.
I will of course still get my fix by renewing my subscription to H & V and, take in odd match as well. If there were to be some positive movement from the club, before the start of the season, I'll be the first in line to get another season ticket.
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I've renewed today. I'd saved up a few months mileage claim to pay it straight off this year. I thought my claim would be in next month's pay but as its arrived, I've gone for it before I end up spending the money on something else.
An early renewal is also the best way I can think of to help to keep the job losses down.
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i renewed today, p8 in upper doug, 35 quid off for relocating from the lower north and used villa cash so paid 278
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I normally leave it till the last minute to renew, not for any reason other than idleness. I'll probably sort it a bit earlier this time though. With my Villa cash thrown in, it'll cost me £512.
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Got 3 season tickets but heard nowt about renewing
Will renew you just got to so much looking forward to the championship had a belly full of that prem shite
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I needs my away scheme so I will get around to it.
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I haven't had a reminder yet from the club regarding my season ticket. They are probably not in a hurry with me as, without Lerner going or/and some sort of movement regarding getting new players in, I definately will not be putting any more money into Lerner's pockets. As I've said before, the only thing Americans understand is money in their pocket and, as much as it saddens me to give up my season ticket, he ain't having mine.
Also, as regards price freeze for 2017/2018, I wouldn't worry too much about that as, with the current bunch of twat players, we will end up in League 1 by then so. season ticket prices will actually come down.
In summary, I'll just take my chances and, if things do improve on the playing front, I honestly don't think I'll have too much trouble to get a ticket for any given home match and, at a cheaper price as well.
That's the spirit.
Totally understand your views Skerra and yes it's downbeat and pessimistic but it pretty accurate given the prolonged demise of our club. No condescending quips from me.
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they emailed me yesterday ive replied i will renew when we get a real manager and the usuall shite weve been getting
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No way am I renewing while Lerner owns us.
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Received an e-mail about renewing yesterday - £500 for Holte K3 - about £40 off then?
Just deciding whether to stump up now while I have the money and get £25 Villa Cash or go for the 9 payment deal.
I'll go whatever state we are in as I like to see the blokes I stand with and I can say "I was there in the Championship" when we win the Champions League in 2026...
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Well have renewed - it was only the tenner off but what the hell - I went through a few years in life when I couldn't afford a season ticket so may as well do it now I can
UTV
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I've renewed this morning. I came to the conclusion that rubbish as it has been this season, I was here before Randy Lerner and I will be here (God willing) after Randy Lerner so I'm not going to let him drive me away from my club.
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Where were you?
Where were you?
Where were you when you were shit?
Renew NOW and get your answer ready Villa fans!
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I'll renew but it would be nice if the Villa made some sort of effort to be a proper football club before I do, starting with recruiting a fucking manager.
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Done it today, hoping to see us win a few more games & maybe even win something.
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I haven't had a reminder yet from the club regarding my season ticket. They are probably not in a hurry with me as, without Lerner going or/and some sort of movement regarding getting new players in, I definately will not be putting any more money into Lerner's pockets. As I've said before, the only thing Americans understand is money in their pocket and, as much as it saddens me to give up my season ticket, he ain't having mine.
Also, as regards price freeze for 2017/2018, I wouldn't worry too much about that as, with the current bunch of twat players, we will end up in League 1 by then so. season ticket prices will actually come down.
In summary, I'll just take my chances and, if things do improve on the playing front, I honestly don't think I'll have too much trouble to get a ticket for any given home match and, at a cheaper price as well.
That's the spirit.
Agree Skerra
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Simply makes no sense for me a season ticket in the championship living in the NW and having so many odd kick off times.
Hopefully will be covered for the aways I want and will get to 60% of homes - even to the dismay (or perhaps not) of my family.
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Where were you?
Where were you?
Where were you when you were shit?
Renew NOW and get your answer ready Villa fans!
That might actually work as a marketing tactic. Something like this:
(http://i.imgur.com/U6W8WPz.jpg)
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isnt that Ian Olney?
Well his lad is clearly a Gooner...
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Simply makes no sense for me a season ticket in the championship living in the NW and having so many odd kick off times.
Hopefully will be covered for the aways I want and will get to 60% of homes - even to the dismay (or perhaps not) of my family.
Where abouts are you mate? I'm in Didsbury.
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Just tried to go into the TO to renew my ST.
Not even allowed inside the door. They're not doing renewals because they're "too busy".
The queue to be served was well inside. Probably only a dozen people waiting to be served.
Certainly not my definition of too busy
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Renewed Friday. Can't imagine not going down the match no matter what division, manager or owner.
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Simply makes no sense for me a season ticket in the championship living in the NW and having so many odd kick off times.
Hopefully will be covered for the aways I want and will get to 60% of homes - even to the dismay (or perhaps not) of my family.
Where abouts are you mate? I'm in Didsbury.
Bootle - pretty sure I met up with you and your mates in Danny's gaff at Wembley.
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the £325 tickets in L8 have sold out
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the £325 tickets in L8 have sold out
how much is it for the Tracey Andrews stand thats what some of call the dough Ellis, as it should be named after a villa legend.
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the £325 tickets in L8 have sold out
how much is it for the Tracey Andrews stand thats what some of call the dough Ellis, as it should be named after a villa legend.
One more like that and you can find somewhere else to play.
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the £325 tickets in L8 have sold out
how much is it for the Tracey Andrews stand thats what some of call the dough Ellis, as it should be named after a villa legend.
Carry on down that route and your stay here will be a short one.
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Here we are, 11th May, with four longstanding season tickets and still no communication from the Club regarding the renewal of these.
The administration at Aston Villa is a FUCKING SHAMBLES!
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What do you mean? The club not called? I don't think they've ever written or called me to renew.
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Here we are, 11th May, with four longstanding season tickets and still no communication from the Club regarding the renewal of these.
The administration at Aston Villa is a FUCKING SHAMBLES!
Have they called/contacted you on previous seasons before the season has ended??
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Yes, usually get correspondence advising of renewal prices, etc.
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...and my sister received this email on 30th April:-
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Yes, usually get correspondence advising of renewal prices, etc.
This link tells you all you need to know mate
http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/SeasonTicketInformation/
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Yes, usually get correspondence advising of renewal prices, etc.
This link tells you all you need to know mate
http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/SeasonTicketInformation/
Many thanks; that's really useful.
Cheers
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Yes, usually get correspondence advising of renewal prices, etc.
I don't think that I've ever had an email from the club about renewing. Certainly I didn't this season
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They do normally send out a ST renewal pack which they don't seem to have done this time, but it's easy enough to find out the price of your seat and it's easy enough to renew. It's hardly shambolic.
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Yes, usually get correspondence advising of renewal prices, etc.
I don't think that I've ever had an email from the club about renewing. Certainly I didn't this season
Had a renewal e-mail 2 weeks ago and renewed last week - seems strange they don't e-mail everyone as a matter of course...
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They do normally send out a ST renewal pack which they don't seem to have done this time, but it's easy enough to find out the price of your seat and it's easy enough to renew. It's hardly shambolic.
Well I guess we'll beg to differ on that one, noting that if the world was about to end you'd still think everything in the garden was rosy. :)
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Yes, usually get correspondence advising of renewal prices, etc.
I don't think that I've ever had an email from the club about renewing. Certainly I didn't this season
Had a renewal e-mail 2 weeks ago and renewed last week - seems strange they don't e-mail everyone as a matter of course...
It does indeed, and that's why I termed it 'shambolic'.
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I've not had an email either but I have had a couple of missed phone calls. Like I said, the club are easy enough to contact if people wish to renew.
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Had an email couple of weeks ago but holding back on renewal til end of this month so it doesn't appear on my credit card statement until 1st July
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Renewed mine today :)
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No phone call or email yet......
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I had the generic e-mail posted on the previous page. Personally doesn't bother me whether I get a phone call/renewal pack/e-mail, I don't sit around waiting for it, if I'm going to renew I'm pro-active.
I do think for some of our less internet savvy fans though a welcome pack landing on the mat is of more importance, some people like to see a bit of effort from the club too before parting with hundreds of pounds.
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After 6 years of shit it would probably be wise to at least make a concerted effort to wooing those that are undecided. Seems there is the usual let things drift and what will be will be attitude.
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Agree the club should make more effort - of the 10 or so people I've sat with for years 7 aren't intending to renew. They'll pick and choose games but not going to commit to a ST. Maybe something more positive/personal from the club might sway them the other way
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After the woeful season we've just had, I could kind of understand if they're deliberately being a bit more low key about renewals. They are making calls and have sent emails though so it's not as if they're not making no effort at all.
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I have had an email and a couple of missed calls.
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I have had an email and a couple of missed calls.
your popular
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An email circular is usually just the press of a group button isn't it? I can't really understand how some people are getting emails and not others. It's plain weird.
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Renewed two days ago.
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An email circular is usually just the press of a group button isn't it? I can't really understand how some people are getting emails and not others. It's plain weird.
Depends if people have updated the club if they have changed e-mail addresses, may have gone into their spam folders,etc
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An email circular is usually just the press of a group button isn't it? I can't really understand how some people are getting emails and not others. It's plain weird.
Depends if people have updated the club if they have changed e-mail addresses, may have gone into their spam folders,etc
Possibly those of us who haven't received an email might have ticked a box sometime in the past to say that we didn't want marketing messages.
The TO certainly know my email address, they check the bloody thing (and my mobile number) every time I ring up
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Just renewed for me and my son and discovered another stealth trick, along with reduction in VillaCash allowances that have been used previously, to effectively not reduce the season ticket price at all, is that AVTV is not included in the season ticket package for next season. I know a lot of people won't be that bothered about that, but personally we enjoyed being able to watch the U21s online. The ticket office did say that the current AVTV subscription will expire on 31st July which should enable most, if not all, of the pre-season games to be watched online. Oh, and the "benefit" of the first home cup game being free is moot if we get drawn away and get knocked out in the first round! ;)
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Oh, and the "benefit" of the first home cup game being free is moot if we get drawn away and get knocked out in the first round! ;)
Is that for all ST's Chris? Wasn't mentioned when I renewed so must have missed it...
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Oh, and the "benefit" of the first home cup game being free is moot if we get drawn away and get knocked out in the first round! ;)
Is that for all ST's Chris? Wasn't mentioned when I renewed so must have missed it...
Yeah - first home cup game included in the ST as per the OS (http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/SeasonTicketsAndHospitality)
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Oh, and the "benefit" of the first home cup game being free is moot if we get drawn away and get knocked out in the first round! ;)
Is that for all ST's Chris? Wasn't mentioned when I renewed so must have missed it...
Yeah - first home cup game included in the ST as per the OS (http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/SeasonTicketsAndHospitality)
Yep WW - as CJ stated. It was mentioned by the very pleasant lad at the ticket office as a benefit in response to my mild disappointment at AVTV not being a part of next season's ST package.
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stan collymoore tweeted that he has bought a season ticket , upper holte , k5
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stan collymoore tweeted that he has bought a season ticket , upper holte , k5
Which he'll never use. He's full of shit.
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Oh, and the "benefit" of the first home cup game being free is moot if we get drawn away and get knocked out in the first round! ;)
Is that for all ST's Chris? Wasn't mentioned when I renewed so must have missed it...
Yeah - first home cup game included in the ST as per the OS (http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/SeasonTicketsAndHospitality)
We used to get the first game free years ago and they we didn't for some reason
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stan collymoore tweeted that he has bought a season ticket , upper holte , k5
How long before he is offering half the Holte out and claiming racism?
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Well the takeover has had some effect. A mate waited for an just under an hour in the ticket office queue to renew earlier and i've been trying to get through on the phone this afternoon without any luck.
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Or, there is only one person manning phones who is watching the cricket
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I renewed yesterday. I was very surprised how busy the ticket office was. There also seemed to be quite a few people being taken into the ground to view seats so I presume they were mainly new Season ticket holders.
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I finally got through on the phone and renewed too.
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Or the displaced from the Upper Trinity or back of the Lower North Stand.
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Hopefully there'll be plenty of free tickets to local schools to fill in the empty spaces. Come on Villa, please do the right thing. They'll all spend a fiver on a hotdog or whatever.
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Or the displaced from the Upper Trinity or back of the Lower North Stand.
Yeah, think that's more likely. Would imagine most 'new' people would wait until after renewal deadlines for the various sections - for example, there'll be some cracking non-renewed seats by me near front/centre of the Upper Holte.
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When I renewed last week (pre takeover, I'm no glory hunter) the guy in the TO in town said sales had been pretty good and that 25% of sales had been to people who didn't have a ST last season.
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When I renewed last week (pre takeover, I'm no glory hunter) the guy in the TO in town said sales had been pretty good and that 25% of sales had been to people who didn't have a ST last season.
I'm surprised at that even if it is probably a "made up on the spot" percentage - also delighted if it is true - having 30k plus averages would be very good
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When I renewed last week (pre takeover, I'm no glory hunter) the guy in the TO in town said sales had been pretty good and that 25% of sales had been to people who didn't have a ST last season.
I wonder when they will be reopening the Trinity Road upper!
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When I renewed last week (pre takeover, I'm no glory hunter) the guy in the TO in town said sales had been pretty good and that 25% of sales had been to people who didn't have a ST last season.
I wonder when they will be reopening the Trinity Road upper!
Not until we get back into the Premier League
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Maybe not to sell season tickets but it will surely be open for some games at least next season, particularly against Midlands teams of which there are quite a few.
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Maybe not to sell season tickets but it will surely be open for some games at least next season, particularly against Midlands teams of which there are quite a few.
I am very confident that the season ticket holders that have been moved had a letter from the club and it stated it would be closed all next season for every game.
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Maybe not to sell season tickets but it will surely be open for some games at least next season, particularly against Midlands teams of which there are quite a few.
I am very confident that the season ticket holders that have been moved had a letter from the club and it stated it would be closed all next season for every game.
What does the UT hold - 3.5k? Even against Blose we will only have about 38k due to the security restrictions on buying tickets
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Maybe not to sell season tickets but it will surely be open for some games at least next season, particularly against Midlands teams of which there are quite a few.
I am very confident that the season ticket holders that have been moved had a letter from the club and it stated it would be closed all next season for every game.
Which, until Friday's ownership update, and despite renewing and moving to another part of the ground and paying for it, remains the only communication I've received from the club since an email asking me if I was interested in extra tickets for the Bournemouth game. I know they're busy lately, but something would be nice. Nowt too elaborate, just a note to confirm that it's all sorted would do.
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There's quite a lot of Chinese students in Birmingham at the various unis aren't there, could we see an influx of them becoming new season ticket holders now we've had this takeover?
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There's quite a lot of Chinese students in Birmingham at the various unis aren't there, could we see an influx of them becoming new season ticket holders now we've had this takeover?
i dont know , but ive heard quite a few polish / east european accents in the holte over the last year or 2
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Maybe not to sell season tickets but it will surely be open for some games at least next season, particularly against Midlands teams of which there are quite a few.
I am very confident that the season ticket holders that have been moved had a letter from the club and it stated it would be closed all next season for every game.
True but there's a different direction hopefully now at the club. What the good Doctor is saying dosen't tally with closing parts of the ground down.
I reckon they'll see how crowds and form go first half of the season and re-open it at xmas if we're near the top and flog some half season tickets there.
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Maybe not to sell season tickets but it will surely be open for some games at least next season, particularly against Midlands teams of which there are quite a few.
I am very confident that the season ticket holders that have been moved had a letter from the club and it stated it would be closed all next season for every game.
True but there's a different direction hopefully now at the club. What the good Doctor is saying dosen't tally with closing parts of the ground down.
I reckon they'll see how crowds and form go first half of the season and re-open it at xmas if we're near the top and flog some half season tickets there.
Maybe but they are still cutting a 3rd of the staff from all parts of Villa Park including the ticket office
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That was going to happen regardless. We were massively over staffed.
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Renewed today - took ages to get through but had to do by phone as the option to use up your Villa Cash towards the ST cost can't be done online (apparently could do earlier but it was screwing up the finance options so Villa Cash option removed). Thought I'd bump this as the deadline to keep next season's ST cost at this year's price runs out on Tuesday for those who may be interested.
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Renewed today - took ages to get through but had to do by phone as the option to use up your Villa Cash towards the ST cost can't be done online (apparently could do earlier but it was screwing up the finance options so Villa Cash option removed). Thought I'd bump this as the deadline to keep next season's ST cost at this year's price runs out on Tuesday for those who may be interested.
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Renewed also after saying I wouldn't because of the last 5 years,but after over 40 years unbroken I
Suppose I was always going to renew. Just hope and pray on my Tony Butler prayer Matt that this season we can throw off the shackles of the past & Tony Zia can take us into an improved comfort zone and successful future. Getting back to the offer if we could manage to get back up next season
then the cost will remain the same
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Is the ticket office open tomorrow and Monday?
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Found this somewhere on the OS. Don't know about BH Monday:
In Person
Come into the ticket office to purchase your season ticket with one of our friendly members of staff. Pay by cash, credit or debit card or sign up for one of our finance options.
Villa Village – Opening Hours
Mon – Sat 9:00am to 5:00pm
Sun Closed
City Centre Store – Opening Hours
Mon – Sat 9:30am to 5:00pm (closed from 2:00pm to 2:30pm)
Sun 11:00am to 3:00pm
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It was on the local news up here yesterday that in further good news for Newcastle supporters all season ticket prices are to be reduced by 10% next season.
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I ended up paying £500 for mine which was £45 cheaper than last year.
I'm hopeful of seeing close to as many home wins in 23 games as I've seen in 5 years.
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I paid £595 for a front row seat in the Doug Ellis upper. Looking forward to lots of home wins after seasons of celebrating away fans.
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Is the ticket office open tomorrow and Monday?
From PRAVDA
Our Ticket Office at Villa Park will be open 9am-5pm on Saturday, closed on Sunday and 11am-4pm on Bank Holiday Monday.
Our Ticket Office in the City Centre will be open 9.30am-5pm on Saturday, 11am-3pm on Sunday and 11am-5pm on Bank Holiday Monday.
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Renewed again - please be better than the last few seasons!!
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Is the ticket office open tomorrow and Monday?
From PRAVDA
Our Ticket Office at Villa Park will be open 9am-5pm on Saturday, closed on Sunday and 11am-4pm on Bank Holiday Monday.
Our Ticket Office in the City Centre will be open 9.30am-5pm on Saturday, 11am-3pm on Sunday and 11am-5pm on Bank Holiday Monday.
Cheers. Forgot all about it anyway! Will renew... at some point!
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I swore that i would not renew for next season but you know the saying ''A fool and his money are easily parted''.
Been down Ticket office this morning £500.66 lighter in my account but i suppose the £34.34 cashback lightened the blow a little.
Can't believe how weak i've become.....it's called Love!!
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Renewed today, thought today was the deadline for the 17/18 price freeze but a day late. I'll try it on when the time comes.
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Renewed last Week.
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Renewed, mug or what?
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Renewed yesterday. Still in the Trinity Road Upper but with a £60 discount because I had to move along a bit and 4 extra games to boot. Great value. Bring it on!
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Renewed yesterday. Still in the Trinity Road Upper but with a £60 discount because I had to move along a bit and 4 extra games to boot. Great value. Bring it on!
I thought the Trinity Road Upper was closed?
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Apparently only the middle section. The sides are still open.
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Renewed yesterday. Still in the Trinity Road Upper but with a £60 discount because I had to move along a bit and 4 extra games to boot. Great value. Bring it on!
Upper Trinity? Did you give your money to a bloke outside the Ticket Office? I'd check your receipt if I was you
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They said it was the Upper Trinity but looking at the receipt it must be in the middle bit. Conned by the Villa again.
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They said it was the Upper Trinity but looking at the receipt it must be in the middle bit. Conned by the Villa again.
Technically the Middle is the Upper now.
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Renewed today, thought today was the deadline for the 17/18 price freeze but a day late. I'll try it on when the time comes.
A day late? I did the same.....I think they're wrong, it clearly states on the OS that the deadline for the price freeze is 31st May
AVFC Key Dates
Wednesday 27th April
Season Tickets On Sale
Friday 27th May
4 or 9 Month Interest Free Finance Deadline (4 months available after this date subject to 2.3% admin fee)
Tuesday 31st May
Deadline to secure price freeze on 2017/18 season ticket prices
Monday 6th June
Trinity Road Stand Lower and Family Stand Key Renewal Deadline
Wednesday 8th June
North Stand Key Renewal Deadline
Monday 13th June
Trinity Road Stand Middle Key Renewal Deadline
Wednesday 15th June
Holte End Lower Key Renewal Deadline
Friday 17th June
Holte End Upper Key Renewal Deadline
Monday 20th June
Doug Ellis Stand Key Renewal Deadline
Friday 24th June
Final Deadline Day (For existing season ticket holders to claim current seat) & Priority Relocation for North Stand Lower or Trinity Road Upper Relocations
Saturday 25th June
Relocation Day
Sunday 31st July
2015-16 Villa Cash Deadline
Wednesday 31st August
Deadline For 4 Month Finance Applications (subject to 2.3% admin fee)
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I see the planned work on Lower North has been put back to next Summer
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I wonder if that's because the North stand may not be with us for too much longer if we go up? Knock it into the long grass as we may have a shiny new stand instead.
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I see the planned work on Lower North has been put back to next Summer
What planned work was there? The disabled seating?
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Yeah they were taking out a row or two to put in disabled seats.
Made no sense the location being right next to the away fans where they stand and its all a bit raucous.
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I see the planned work on Lower North has been put back to next Summer
Are you sure Des, the post above yours refers to Priority relocation for North Stand Lower and Trinity Upper?
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Well I'm glad that they've seen a bit of sense. Things like the cheaper seating for the kids being in the lower North, next to the away fans, the family enclosure next to the away fans. Some thought needs to go in to how we can arrange it. I know I wouldn't want to be taking a young kid to watch defeats next to away fans mocking and taking the piss every other week, it makes a crap match day 'experience' even crapper.
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I see the planned work on Lower North has been put back to next Summer
Are you sure Des, the post above yours refers to Priority relocation for North Stand Lower and Trinity Upper?
definately right
ive had a letter saying that the work isnt going ahead until the end of next season and i can have my old seat back for next season
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So are they not opening the upper trinity at all next season, or just not selling season tickets there so that they don't have to open it if a low crowd is expected for a particular match?
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So are they not opening the upper trinity at all next season, or just not selling season tickets there so that they don't have to open it if a low crowd is expected for a particular match?
Its not open at all next season for any games
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That's pretty poor.
Maybe trying to save on policing costs if the capacity is restricted to (guess) 35000?
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The upper trinity will hold about 4000 maximum, not 8k!
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So are they not opening the upper trinity at all next season, or just not selling season tickets there so that they don't have to open it if a low crowd is expected for a particular match?
Its not open at all next season for any games
Not even for the SHA match?
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So are they not opening the upper trinity at all next season, or just not selling season tickets there so that they don't have to open it if a low crowd is expected for a particular match?
Its not open at all next season for any games
We have a good season & draw Man Utd in the 1/4 of the FACup they soon reopen it .
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So are they not opening the upper trinity at all next season, or just not selling season tickets there so that they don't have to open it if a low crowd is expected for a particular match?
Its not open at all next season for any games
An utterly bone-headed decision. I know they are probably currently reserving seats for people who will not ultimately renew and the prospect of a takeover has piqued interest , but the current seating plan for season tickets shows a fairly full ground already.
The upper trinity has many of the best seats in the ground. I wonder how many ST holders have thought 'fuck it' rather than take a seat (presumably) behind the goals.
I would hope that Xia reviews the decision.
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So are they not opening the upper trinity at all next season, or just not selling season tickets there so that they don't have to open it if a low crowd is expected for a particular match?
Its not open at all next season for any games
An utterly bone-headed decision. I know they are probably currently reserving seats for people who will not ultimately renew and the prospect of a takeover has piqued interest , but the current seating plan for season tickets shows a fairly full ground already.
The upper trinity has many of the best seats in the ground. I wonder how many ST holders have thought 'fuck it' rather than take a seat (presumably) behind the goals.
I would hope that Xia reviews the decision.
He will when we are ten points clear at the top by Xmas and they're queuing past the Holte pub to get in against Burton Albion.
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So are they not opening the upper trinity at all next season, or just not selling season tickets there so that they don't have to open it if a low crowd is expected for a particular match?
Its not open at all next season for any games
An utterly bone-headed decision. I know they are probably currently reserving seats for people who will not ultimately renew and the prospect of a takeover has piqued interest , but the current seating plan for season tickets shows a fairly full ground already.
The upper trinity has many of the best seats in the ground. I wonder how many ST holders have thought 'fuck it' rather than take a seat (presumably) behind the goals.
I would hope that Xia reviews the decision.
i think the current map view takes into account that people have until 24th june to renew
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14,000 sold to date according to the Meaning Evil.
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I think it just crept over 20,000 last season so nearly a 33% drop.
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I think it just crept over 20,000 last season so nearly a 33% drop.
Final deadline for existing ST holders isnt till next week so Il imagine we will sell a few more.
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I think a few decent signings and a bit of optimism will get it to 20,000.
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I still haven't got round to renewing. I doubt I'll have a problem getting one.
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Late day is Friday 24th so a while to go yet ....mine hasn't been renewed but will be on the final day ....
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I think it just crept over 20,000 last season so nearly a 33% drop.
Final deadline for existing ST holders isnt till next week so Il imagine we will sell a few more.
We'll be selling them until after Christmas.
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Wasn't but have got a bonus to cover the ticket so with the hassle of having to ask people can I use your client's number - think 25th June will be make sure you get one.
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Renewing mine Friday or Saturday going to pick another seat last seasons seat was a little bit unlucky
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Renewing mine Friday or Saturday going to pick another seat last seasons seat was a little bit unlucky
You may be best off renewing the seat you have and then moving it next Saturday when its re-location day as there isnt many spare one currently
as everyone has until next thurs/fri to renew
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Wasn't but have got a bonus to cover the ticket so with the hassle of having to ask people can I use your client's number - think 25th June will be make sure you get one.
good news, where are you going to sit mate
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Renewed today, I waited until Mr Lerner had left the building and the takeover was done and dusted. My end of season despair is morphing into ridiculous over optimism already!
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Renewing mine Friday or Saturday going to pick another seat last seasons seat was a little bit unlucky
They must have had a dodgy batch of unlucky seats last summer as I ended up with one as well.
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just worked out if you check carefully at L3, L4 and L5 there are extra value seats at £325 in the lower rows. Bargain.
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just worked out if you check carefully at L3, L4 and L5 there are extra value seats at £325 in the lower rows. Bargain.
but it's a terrible view that low down
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but it's a terrible view that low down
I'm there - if the action's at the North it's a bit difficult to work out the relative distances away, but the screens help there. Nothing beats watching 'em go in at the Holte though from close range.
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Renewed yesterday P1
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Around 450 out of a 1000 away scheme memberships now sold. We usually have about 500-600 so we are on for the same.
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We renewed our Away scheme and even added another member. I suspect his "this will be fun" might last for a few weeks until a mid-week slog up the M6 gives him a dose of reality
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They have only gone and taken the map down of available seats. How you now supposed to buy online?
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It's relocation day today so everyone who had bought previously could move. Suspect tomorrow the map will back up. Only took me 1hr 30 on phone to get through....think Helen might have been a bit stressed this evening!
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We went for relocation this morning, there were 150 / 200 in the queue at 9am which might explain why the phone lines were busy.
Seemed a lot of temps on the desk so can imagine it was a slow process for some.
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Very encouraging though that there is that much interest which will grow as the season approaches and we make hopefully good player decisions for the club.
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Apparently the availability map is back up Wednesday 9am.
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Getting to VP is going to be awkward possibly until December with J6 slip/Park Circus closures - details posted on Tickets & Travel
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Does anyone know when you can actually pick your seat and row season ticket online
Apologies if this has been answered before
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Does anyone know when you can actually pick your seat and row season ticket online
Apologies if this has been answered before
You can do it now mate.......The season ticket map is back on line
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Doesn't look like they've sold anywhere near as many as we had last season so far. Holte is nearly all green availability whereas last season a good few sections in both the lower and upper were orange for limited availability based on ST holders.
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Thanks a lot I will AV a look later didn't renew my season ticket seats from previous years they just seemed a tad unlucky
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If you were to purchase an extra value seat (towards the front of the Holte) or towards the back of the Upper Witton End (North Stand for any youngsters) where would you purchase?
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If you were to purchase an extra value seat (towards the front of the Holte) or towards the back of the Upper Witton End (North Stand for any youngsters) where would you purchase?
I would get one in the Holte
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Does anyone on this site know how many season tickets the club has sold so far?
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Wyness said they'd sold 14,000 a couple of weeks ago. I'm sure he said that figure had been the target too?
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I am one of the 14,000 + so if you are in L5 row DD, then unfortunately I will be there as well
Hopefully all my friends LOL will have renewed as well in the seats around me, lets hope that this season I don't have too much to moan about
Also I hope that JILL who travels from Lincoln home and away (and deserves a medal for doing so) has renewed!
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Does anyone on this site know how many season tickets the club has sold so far?
My mate reckons the figure is now close to 20k.
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Does anyone on this site know how many season tickets the club has sold so far?
My mate reckons the figure is now close to 20k.
Rubbish the club are expecting us to sell 15k that came from Keyes
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Does anyone on this site know how many season tickets the club has sold so far?
My mate reckons the figure is now close to 20k.
Rubbish the club are expecting us to sell 15k that came from Keyes
That's a slightly abrupt response, she might be right but we are in uncharted territory so it can only be a guess.
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Does anyone on this site know how many season tickets the club has sold so far?
My mate reckons the figure is now close to 20k.
Rubbish the club are expecting us to sell 15k that came from Keyes
The club, according to Wyness, expected to sell circa 14k and reached that target a few weeks ago. Whether we've sold 5 or 6 thousand more remains to be seen. I guess everything over and above 14k is speculation.
Either way, there's no need to get your undies in a twist.
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We had 20,000 last season so a drop of 6,000 would be quite an amount and I'd expect crowds of 25/26,000 with only 14k season tickets, not good.
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14,000 isn't a very good target to set, very low bar. If that's all we sell then some midweek games will see gates of less than 20k.
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14,000 isn't a very good target to set, very low bar. If that's all we sell then some midweek games will see gates of less than 20k.
That wasnt the target it was the figure that had been sold about 3 weeks ago......The figures were in the Evening Mail I am guessing the target will be about 17.000 ish
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14,000 isn't a very good target to set, very low bar. If that's all we sell then some midweek games will see gates of less than 20k.
That wasnt the target it was the figure that had been sold about 3 weeks ago......The figures were in the Evening Mail I am guessing the target will be about 17.000 ish
I was going off what I read (below).
Wyness said they'd sold 14,000 a couple of weeks ago. I'm sure he said that figure had been the target too?
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14,000 isn't a very good target to set, very low bar. If that's all we sell then some midweek games will see gates of less than 20k.
That wasnt the target it was the figure that had been sold about 3 weeks ago......The figures were in the Evening Mail I am guessing the target will be about 17.000 ish
I was going off what I read (below).
Wyness said they'd sold 14,000 a couple of weeks ago. I'm sure he said that figure had been the target too?
It was possibly the target at that time was to sell 14,000 and that they had met that
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We had 20,000 last season so a drop of 6,000 would be quite an amount and I'd expect crowds of 25/26,000 with only 14k season tickets, not good.
Depends what the match day prices are like as obviously we'll need big walk up crowds this season to get close to even 35k I think.
Be interested when those come out, at premier league level it's more or less 40 quid to sit in Upper Witton so that will surely be reduced by a tenner otherwise you might aswell close that bar the away fans.
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From memory the highest we've got in recent times is 25k or just over in a couple of the MON signings.
Ever since McLeish it's been back down to around 20k.
I remember years back when SHA came up they made a great noise about selling more than us and their figure was 23k.
We just don't have huge consistent week in week out support. We have a hard core of about 25k (at prem level) and then the rest fluctuates on so many different reasons.
I think anything close to 20k would be pretty good and well the rest is up to the marketing team. We had plenty of cheap ticket combos at prem level so can only imagine they'll be more 2-1 games and like that. Are we still using Seatwave this season or going back to Viagogo?
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We had 20,000 last season so a drop of 6,000 would be quite an amount and I'd expect crowds of 25/26,000 with only 14k season tickets, not good.
Depends what the match day prices are like as obviously we'll need big walk up crowds this season to get close to even 35k I think.
Be interested when those come out, at premier league level it's more or less 40 quid to sit in Upper Witton so that will surely be reduced by a tenner otherwise you might aswell close that bar the away fans.
Yes surely they will be releasing ticket prices for the various categories this season in the next week or two as games like Rotherham will need to go on sale fairly soon. My concern is that if season ticket prices only went down by a tenner over the season, they can't afford to put match ticket prices down a lot, or it will mean having a season ticket doesn't save you money.
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We are still using Seatwave
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If you were to purchase an extra value seat (towards the front of the Holte) or towards the back of the Upper Witton End (North Stand for any youngsters) where would you purchase?
I would get one in the Holte
i oo I oo its up the Holte we go......
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From memory the highest we've got in recent times is 25k or just over in a couple of the MON signings.
Ever since McLeish it's been back down to around 20k.
I remember years back when SHA came up they made a great noise about selling more than us and their figure was 23k.
We just don't have huge consistent week in week out support. We have a hard core of about 25k (at prem level) and then the rest fluctuates on so many different reasons.
I think anything close to 20k would be pretty good and well the rest is up to the marketing team. We had plenty of cheap ticket combos at prem level so can only imagine they'll be more 2-1 games and like that. Are we still using Seatwave this season or going back to Viagogo?
you mean they made a great noise that after being being out of the top flight for nearly a generation ,sixteen years I believe ? they managed to sell what we normally sell and bearing in mind that their ground capacity is only 25000 home spaces v our 40,000 so greater need to secure tickets....
these were also dark times for us Taylor Mark II and O'Dreay years just to give it some context.
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We had 20,000 last season so a drop of 6,000 would be quite an amount and I'd expect crowds of 25/26,000 with only 14k season tickets, not good.
Depends what the match day prices are like as obviously we'll need big walk up crowds this season to get close to even 35k I think.
Be interested when those come out, at premier league level it's more or less 40 quid to sit in Upper Witton so that will surely be reduced by a tenner otherwise you might aswell close that bar the away fans.
Yes surely they will be releasing ticket prices for the various categories this season in the next week or two as games like Rotherham will need to go on sale fairly soon. My concern is that if season ticket prices only went down by a tenner over the season, they can't afford to put match ticket prices down a lot, or it will mean having a season ticket doesn't save you money.
Don't forget the addition 4 games. That gives a fair bit of scope to have some budget games
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but with away allocations being sparse at some grounds at least a season ticket gives you a head start.
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Anyone know how many sold to date?
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Anyone had there's yet?
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Was in the ticket office this afternoon buying ticket for the Boro match. Overheard one of the guys on the desk telling someone to expect new ST cards through the post towards end of July.
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Was in the ticket office this afternoon buying ticket for the Boro match. Overheard one of the guys on the desk telling someone to expect new ST cards through the post towards end of July.
I was told 2 weeks before the season starts when I renewed
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Was in the ticket office this afternoon buying ticket for the Boro match. Overheard one of the guys on the desk telling someone to expect new ST cards through the post towards end of July.
I was told 2 weeks before the season starts when I renewed
Seems to tally up then. Probably at some point during week beginning 25th July.
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I was going to say, they could start by sending the cards out.
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I was told first couple of weeks of July
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We've sold 18,000 so far, which is 5,000 less than last season.
Decent going and you'd think we'll likely tip the 20,000 by the time the season kicks off.
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YAY!
Just got my season ticket in the post.
Not much in it, no mention of AVTV even though they told me as far as they knew it was still part of the season ticket package.
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If we can get to around 20k in the Championship that is pretty good going and shows loyal support as in our last few seasons of struggle we've tended to be between 20-23k I think.
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Did we sell 23,000 season tickets last season, I thought that it was around the 20,000?
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I think the optimism of the FA cup run and spending 50m pushed it up to probably the highest since Lambert's first season.
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I think this is proving the point that we have around 20 odd thousand who will turn up no matter what, with probably double or triple that number who pick and chose 6 or 7 games a season, giving us an average of 30 odd thousand.
Competing, and I say that deliberately, shows we can get another 10k to stick as we averaged 40 and 39 thousand pretty consistently under O'Neill.
If we win some home games [there's a novelty!] and play some decent stuff in the mix, then I think we'd see an average north of 30k.
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Norwich averaged 26k in the Championship. I reckon we'll be comfortable low 30's early on and then get to around an average of mid to high 30's by the end of the season if things are going to plan.
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YAY!
Just got my season ticket in the post.
Not much in it, no mention of AVTV even though they told me as far as they knew it was still part of the season ticket package.
Had an email to say AVTV will be part of the season ticket package, and authorisation codes will be emailed out on July18th
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YAY!
Just got my season ticket in the post.
Not much in it, no mention of AVTV even though they told me as far as they knew it was still part of the season ticket package.
I'm glad that there's not much more than the ST itself. The pack sent out in some recent years was OTT in my view
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YAY!
Just got my season ticket in the post.
Not much in it, no mention of AVTV even though they told me as far as they knew it was still part of the season ticket package.
I'm glad that there's not much more than the ST itself. The pack sent out in some recent years was OTT in my view
Agree, if we have to make savings that was a good place to start but will miss my season ticket holder car sticker- It's always nice to see fellow Villa fans anywhere and everywhere
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YAY!
Just got my season ticket in the post.
Not much in it, no mention of AVTV even though they told me as far as they knew it was still part of the season ticket package.
I'm glad that there's not much more than the ST itself. The pack sent out in some recent years was OTT in my view
Maybe keeping them on for kids would have been a nice idea.
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The club should put a season tickets sold live tally on the OS
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The club should put a season tickets sold live tally on the OS
That would be Ace :)
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The club should put a season tickets sold live tally on the OS
I would like to see some kind of trip advisor ratings for new or relocating season ticket holders where those around you can leave reviews of incumbents to advise potential buyers who they'll be sitting next to for 23 home games e.g. "swearing moaner, takes up 1.5 seats, could do with a wash", "sound bloke buys whole row a pint at Christmas, "finger biting maniac goes out for a smoke every 10 minutes", "doesn't understand offiside".
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".... Orfzide..."
That one's for you SligoTom
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The club should put a season tickets sold live tally on the OS
Commercially sensitive information?
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(http://www.headheritage.co.uk/trip-advizer/gfx/trip-advizer-banner.jpg)
Three seats to my right...... formerly the aforementioned "orfzide" bloke but we seem to have lost him now.
Two seats to my left...... bloke who rarely turns up. I've had one conversation with him in the 18 seasons that I've sat near the guy (and that was at Wembley before the 2000 cup final)
Two seats to my right and one row in front...... SligoTom and next to him Rob. That's Rob, not Rob who sits in front of Tom or Rob who sits to my right with his daughter.
One seat to my left and one row in front...... Mark, our designated shouter at opposition managers (slightly curtailed since Lambert switched the dugouts)
A few seats to my left and three rows in front...... group of blokes who really hate fullbacks (especially Seamus Coleman but few escape their wrath)
A few seats to my left and one row behind...... the drinkers (turn up bang on KO for the start and second half), including blokewhoseswearingvocabularyconsistssolelyoftheword"cnut"
To my left.....Mike - recent addition. Nice bloke
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The club should put a season tickets sold live tally on the OS
Commercially sensitive information?
not really
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Mine turned up this morning. Reality really starting to bite now - 'The Sky Bet Championship' on the front of the ST, and the list of fixtures - I know we've all known these things for ages, but it gets more palpable by the day. Oh, and spotter's badge for the apostrophe police - ST holders will be entered into competition's...
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Mine turned up this morning. Reality really starting to bite now - 'The Sky Bet Championship' on the front of the ST, and the list of fixtures - I know we've all known these things for ages, but it gets more palpable by the day. Oh, and spotter's badge for the apostrophe police - ST holders will be entered into competition's...
Mine as well. It even feels cheaper...
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No AVTV code this year?
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No AVTV code this year?
Being posted out 18/7
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No AVTV code this year?
Being posted out 18/7
Nice one, thanks mate
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First post on this forum. Just bought my first ever season ticket. Been going to VP since 1981 and alwys bought match tockets, but felt this year would be a good year to start. Feel prettyoptimistic about our chances and believe we'll go up through the playoffs.
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First post on this forum. Just bought my first ever season ticket. Been going to VP since 1981 and alwys bought match tockets, but felt this year would be a good year to start. Feel prettyoptimistic about our chances and believe we'll go up through the playoffs.
Welcome to the jungle. You'll like it here.
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First post on this forum. Just bought my first ever season ticket. Been going to VP since 1981 and alwys bought match tockets, but felt this year would be a good year to start. Feel prettyoptimistic about our chances and believe we'll go up through the playoffs.
Welcome. 🖒
Not sure my heart could take the playoffs!
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Welcome imm. You are now part of the cleverest, funniest, most provocative, idiotic, troll smashing fanzine forum in the known universe. I too think it is going to be the play offs with a good shout of winning el gordo at Wembley.
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Welcome imm. You are now part of the cleverest, funniest, most provocative, idiotic, troll smashing fanzine forum in the known universe. I too think it is going to be the play offs with a good shout of winning el gordo at Wembley.
As you can see, we are also all heavily into drinking battery acid too.
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A wet-spamming acquaintance of mine tells me that the 'appy 'ammers have sold 50k ST at the Olympic Stadium. He said his new tickets - 2 adult and 3 children - were no more expensive than the 2 adult tickets he had at Upton Park.
Pricing for success, IMO.
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My season ticket came through today and I must say the whole package feels a lot cheaper than in previous years. I've relocated from the Holte End to the Trinity this year, so hoping for some of the success, I started sitting in the Holte in McLeish's season and it's been downhill ever since. I sat in the Trinity for the 'glory' of the Little, Gregory and MON years. So, here's hopingnfor s return ....
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Welcome imm. You are now part of the cleverest, funniest, most provocative, idiotic, troll smashing fanzine forum in the known universe. I too think it is going to be the play offs with a good shout of winning el gordo at Wembley.
As you can see, we are also all heavily into drinking battery acid too.
that and tio pepe
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A wet-spamming acquaintance of mine tells me that the 'appy 'ammers have sold 50k ST at the Olympic Stadium. He said his new tickets - 2 adult and 3 children - were no more expensive than the 2 adult tickets he had at Upton Park.
Pricing for success, IMO.
Give us the best ground in the country for nowt and we could do it.
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A wet-spamming acquaintance of mine tells me that the 'appy 'ammers have sold 50k ST at the Olympic Stadium. He said his new tickets - 2 adult and 3 children - were no more expensive than the 2 adult tickets he had at Upton Park.
Pricing for success, IMO.
That's because they have a brand new stadium with minimal running costs..........
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A wet-spamming acquaintance of mine tells me that the 'appy 'ammers have sold 50k ST at the Olympic Stadium. He said his new tickets - 2 adult and 3 children - were no more expensive than the 2 adult tickets he had at Upton Park.
Pricing for success, IMO.
That's because they have a brand new stadium with minimal running costs..........
And we're all chipping in
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You're right that the deal struck by Wet spam is beneficial beyond reasonable. However, there is something commercially astute about pricing to fill a ground rather than pricing people out of attending, given that gate receipts are not the prime income stream these days.
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Are the season tickets being posted out in alphabetical order does anyone know .
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Haven't got mine yet. Mind you I only bought them last week.
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Are the season tickets being posted out in alphabetical order does anyone know .
i got mine last week, having said that my name is aaron aardvark
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Are the season tickets being posted out in alphabetical order does anyone know .
They are doing them in stands and then blocks in those stands
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A wet-spamming acquaintance of mine tells me that the 'appy 'ammers have sold 50k ST at the Olympic Stadium. He said his new tickets - 2 adult and 3 children - were no more expensive than the 2 adult tickets he had at Upton Park.
Pricing for success, IMO.
West Ham have sold 50k season tickets - sounds like a bit of Brexit, they've probably offloaded thousands to corporate resellers.
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Notable that the fixtures card is now literally that - cardboard - not the same sturdy plastic as the ST itself - must have saved a few quid?
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Mine arrived this morning. A bit underwhelmed with the contents. A badge or key ring would have been nice. Not even a sticker for the car, not that I've ever used one before but that's not the point.
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MIne arrived yesterday. Not really interested in the package. I paid for my season ticket and that's what I got.
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Are the season tickets being posted out in alphabetical order does anyone know .
They are doing them in stands and then blocks in those stands
Are the season tickets being posted out in alphabetical order does anyone know .
i got mine last week, having said that my name is aaron aardvark
Ok thank you
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I gather Zinedine Zidane has emailed Nicky Keye chasing his up too
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Wonder Dr Xia's has dropped on his mat yet :)
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Still waiting on mine and I am a L
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Still waiting on mine and I am a L
Fair play to you for coming out. Plenty of L action in Orange is the New Black.
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Notable that the fixtures card is now literally that - cardboard - not the same sturdy plastic as the ST itself - must have saved a few quid?
Why bother sending a fixtures card anyway? A large number of the games will be moved
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I'm thinking of buying a season ticket again after years of not doing so (too much TSM's etc) - I looked this morning and you can get an economy job for £325. Can anyone recommend the best place for the cheap seats? I'm thinking of L9.
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I'm thinking of buying a season ticket again after years of not doing so (too much TSM's etc) - I looked this morning and you can get an economy job for £325. Can anyone recommend the best place for the cheap seats? I'm thinking of L9.
Definately one in the Lower Holte mate.....as far back as you can I think it the 1st 6 or so rows
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I'm thinking of buying a season ticket again after years of not doing so (too much TSM's etc) - I looked this morning and you can get an economy job for £325. Can anyone recommend the best place for the cheap seats? I'm thinking of L9.
Looks like there isn't the map on the official site for ST sales, but going on the Rotherham game, assuming no-one's mad enough to buy match tickets for this yet, then just one seat is available for L9. There's a smattering across the front of the Holte, and plenty of at the back of the North Stand in the £325 range. I love my front row Holte seat, nothing beats it for corners and when we score there. But the sense of perspective goes out of the window at the other end, I have one eye on play and one on the screen to tell if it's in the box or 25 yards away.
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I'm thinking of buying a season ticket again after years of not doing so (too much TSM's etc) - I looked this morning and you can get an economy job for £325. Can anyone recommend the best place for the cheap seats? I'm thinking of L9.
Looks like there isn't the map on the official site for ST sales, but going on the Rotherham game, assuming no-one's mad enough to buy match tickets for this yet, then just one seat is available for L9.
I know the reason for this.
They have removed from sale every third seat in the Holte - basically they need to keep the upper and lower open but reduce the number of people in it sufficiently to be able to employ fewer stewards / bar staff / safety people.
They've done this by doing the above.
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So we are in the privileged position of turning potential seat sales away for the sake of a few stewards wages? Excuse me if I'm being thick but is this really good business? Serious question and apologies if I've missed something.
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Rotherham should be a decent crowd surely. If we're talking a third of Holte that's what 4k empty seats which would surprise me for first home game.
Huddersfield midweek game straight after I can understand that.
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If that's true across the whole ground, then wouldn't the maximum crowd we could get be under 30k?
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It is only in the Holte. Not the whole ground.
Apparently a 33% capacity reduction means a 50% staff requirements reduction.
It stinks of eagerness to downscale if you ask me, but then again, it's to be expected, i guess.
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So we've effectively shaved off 7500 from our capacity? 35,000 being the maximum.
What a load of small time shite.
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How many times would we get that many, though?
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Well they can't possibly reduce the number of bar staff in the Holte Suite by 33%, seeing as there's only 2 of the buggers working on a match day...
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Win matches at home on a regular basis (which is the hope) and I'd say every other weekend.
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Win matches at home on a regular basis (which is the hope) and I'd say every other weekend.
I've spotted the flaw in your argument ;-)
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I'm thinking of buying a season ticket again after years of not doing so (too much TSM's etc) - I looked this morning and you can get an economy job for £325. Can anyone recommend the best place for the cheap seats? I'm thinking of L9.
Looks like there isn't the map on the official site for ST sales, but going on the Rotherham game, assuming no-one's mad enough to buy match tickets for this yet, then just one seat is available for L9.
I know the reason for this.
They have removed from sale every third seat in the Holte - basically they need to keep the upper and lower open but reduce the number of people in it sufficiently to be able to employ fewer stewards / bar staff / safety people.
They've done this by doing the above.
That's ridiculous. I expected better with Xia running the club, that's the kind of small time shite I'd expect if Lerner was still in charge.
By my calculations we've lost 5k capacity from the Trinity and 4.5k from the Holte (Holte total holds 13.5k), so the ground now only caters for 33,000. With the right ambition shown we could be getting gates well above that for certain games. This also makes me worry about how much cash Xia has actually got/will spend.
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Surely it's misinformation? We are penny pinching over employing a few stewards?
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I'm thinking of buying a season ticket again after years of not doing so (too much TSM's etc) - I looked this morning and you can get an economy job for £325. Can anyone recommend the best place for the cheap seats? I'm thinking of L9.
Looks like there isn't the map on the official site for ST sales, but going on the Rotherham game, assuming no-one's mad enough to buy match tickets for this yet, then just one seat is available for L9.
I know the reason for this.
They have removed from sale every third seat in the Holte - basically they need to keep the upper and lower open but reduce the number of people in it sufficiently to be able to employ fewer stewards / bar staff / safety people.
They've done this by doing the above.
That's ridiculous. I expected better with Xia running the club, that's the kind of small time shite I'd expect if Lerner was still in charge.
By my calculations we've lost 5k capacity from the Trinity and 4.5k from the Holte (Holte total holds 13.5k), so the ground now only caters for 33,000. With the right ambition shown we could be getting gates well above that for certain games. This also makes me worry about how much cash Xia has actually got/will spend.
Surely the part about the Holte End ain't true :o :(
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I can't even believe the Paulie is serious about the every third seat thing & am a bit confused as to why so many are happy just to jump on this.
I say this on the basis that one match ticket pays a member of barstaff, and probably less that 2 match tickets would pay a steward - so on what planet would this make any sense?
Even taking into account the lower income from season ticket sales as the price per match is less, we stlll aren't far off a position where every pair of tickets pays for a member of staff.
Who knows if we are enough of a basket case of a club to think up this plan, but I'm a bit surprised that no one even questions the source of this madness before slamming the club.
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So if every 3rd seat is empty, why is my row and the row in front of me sold out?
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surely we would sell-out or come close to it for the unmentionables and one or two others, i.e. the Jawdies?
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I can't even believe the Paulie is serious about the every third seat thing & am a bit confused as to why so many are happy just to jump on this.
I say this on the basis that one match ticket pays a member of barstaff, and probably less that 2 match tickets would pay a steward - so on what planet would this make any sense?
Even taking into account the lower income from season ticket sales as the price per match is less, we stlll aren't far off a position where every pair of tickets pays for a member of staff.
Who knows if we are enough of a basket case of a club to think up this plan, but I'm a bit surprised that no one even questions the source of this madness before slamming the club.
I am sure it is a Walnuts Wind-up. Even taking into account his renowned erudition it beggars belief that not one other person has heard the same story.
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Mine arrived this morning.
For the first time in what seems like ages I'm actually looking forward to the coming season.
One thing's for sure it's not gonna be boring!
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Its strange to even contemplate what it must be like going to a game to see your team being even remotely competitive.
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Has anyone received a kids ST yet, got mine but not the kids....hoping the money saved on ours goes into a bumper kids pack
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The seats thing was a joke btw ;)
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Brilliant Mr Walnuts. I applaud you sir.👏
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I was told today that there are 1,256 tickets left for the Rotherham game.
1,256 in the whole ground, other than the upper Trinity, which will be closed.
If that's all that is left, does it make a mockery of the decision to close that stand ?
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The seats thing was a joke btw ;)
Oh you swine! Well I'll know to believe Amfy next time as the trustworthy one ;)
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Andy, there are 1000's left - look at the online bookings. Whole of north end is green. I think your source may have meant for Wednesday away!
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Maybe they meant on SeatWave?
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Maybe they meant in the lower north stand?
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Maybe they meant in the away end?
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I was told today that there are 1,256 tickets left for the Rotherham game.
1,256 in the whole ground, other than the upper Trinity, which will be closed.
That's what is left on secondary ticket site seatwave mate
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The seats thing was a joke btw ;)
pfft....next you'll be telling me you made up the Evan Davis ancedote....;)
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Mine has arrived today :)can't wait
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Xia said on twitter we are now approaching 20k. However he then quoted Newcastle's 33k sold as if we should be aspiring to do similar, it was pointed out to him that being a one-club city makes a massive difference.
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Why can't they reopen Trinity road upper stand as we got the support for it.
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Why can't they reopen Trinity road upper stand as we got the support for it.
My starting position is that no stand should be closed. However, the Villa have cut match day staffing down to a minimum. For the number or lack of numbers that use the Upper Trinity it is not cost effective. To be honest great view but its dead as a door nail up there.
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My season ticket hasn't arrived yet! This happened last season as well. They had to send me paper tickets for the first two home games and then send the season ticket out later. Is anyone else having the same problem?
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No mine has not yet turned up, they have taken the money though!
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My ST hasn't arrived yet but my Sheffield Wednesday ticket has.
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My ST hasn't arrived yet but my Sheffield Wednesday ticket has.
Ditto
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My season card is safely in my pocket. The silly sods have printed Sky Bet Championship on it. It didn't say Premier League on last season's.
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Why can't they reopen Trinity road upper stand as we got the support for it.
My starting position is that no stand should be closed. However, the Villa have cut match day staffing down to a minimum. For the number or lack of numbers that use the Upper Trinity it is not cost effective. To be honest great view but its dead as a door nail up there.
I sat with my lad a number of times in trinity upper last season very near the back, as you say a great view but like a library with so few people up there
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The postie, a Villa fan, knocked the door so he could deliver them personally. Good old Royal Mail.
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If you purchased your season ticket seats prior to the June 28 2016 you should receive your season ticket by Monday August 1.
For season ticket sales after June 28 or if you have moved seats since then, you will receive your season ticket by Monday August 8.
If you have not received your season cards by Monday August 8 please contact us on 0333 323 1874.
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Postie has just delivered mine. What a let down! It's such a boring card to look at - let's hope the football doesn't match it! Previous seasons have seen lovely designs, so why have they done such a dreary design this time!