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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Legion on March 19, 2016, 07:16:34 PM
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We want him out
Randy Lerner out
We just don't think you understand
From European nights
To going down without a fight
We want Randy Lerner out
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I want all these fuckers out of my club. Manager included. Piss off.
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We go (down) again
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21st defeat of the season. If we win all our remaining games the highest we can finish is 14th. Load of old shit. And collymore can suck my balls as well, twat.
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Every single (horrible) mistake is punished. We were better today but still not good enough.
We didn't deserve to lose but didn't do enough to win.
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Frustrating as some decent approach play let down by poor crossing and having no decent forwards
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Gutless, useless losers.
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Standard, low energy losers.
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Well done to all those who had comedy attempt at punching the ball clear in the how-will-we-fuck-it-up-this-week sweepstake.
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We lose again. What's there left to say? I've forgotten what a winning post match thread feels like.
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Please make it stop
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Not the only one, but Rudy Gestede is a truly embarrassing excuse for a footballer.
Less "Bambi on ice" , more "Bambi after 14 pints".
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Again a fair amount of possession but it never leads anywhere. Toothless
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Guzan, you fucking knob.
You should be the first out the door, you liability.
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Not long til we can put this horror season behind us and start again. Hopefully in a better way than we have managed these last few years.
One thing that is pissing me off. I know we're crap, everyone knows we're crap. I'm sick of ex-pros making quips and giggling over how crap we are. Grow up you pricks.
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8/10 for effort. 3/10 for ability. Hurry up next season please.
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On the plus side, there's only 7 more days like this to go.
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With a striker we could well have got something out of that one.
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Again, why do we have to watch Westwood for 90 minutes again ? I have studied him closely the last games and he offers nothing. He is not even close to winning battles, he gets nowhere near the ball. He cant shoot and he cant make any dribbles or runs. And his set pieces are poor.
And Guzan...
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We are so Shit. What position Does Hutton play?
He seems to do what he likes with very little effect up front but gets us caught out at the back time after time.
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We want him out
Randy Lerner out
We just don't think you understand
From European nights
To going down without a fight
We want Randy Lerner out
Always think of Billy Ray Cyrus "Achy Breaky Heart" when I hear that third line.
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Garde has given up too. CESM.
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Sad thing is the teams around us are no better than us but our calamitous defending and powder puff strikers have sunk us
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It says a lot about the attitude of the other players when Westwood keeps getting picked. He's not good enough but he probably tries hard in training and says the right things. There are plenty of others in the squad who have simply pulled the chute.
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On the plus side, there's only 7 more days like this to go.
...this season.
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Bit generous on the ability rating
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Again, why do we have to watch Westwood for 90 minutes again ? I have studied him closely the last games and he offers nothing. He is not even close to winning battles, he gets nowhere near the ball. He cant shoot and he cant make any dribbles or runs. And his set pieces are poor.
And Guzan...
Someone in the match thread mentioned that. He is a midfielder yet is rarely involved in changing or controlling the tempo of the match, Just not good enough.
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Better performance, but yet another defensive error costs us points. Thought Gana, vertout, Gestede and Green played well. We just don't create clear chances
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Guzan rubbish again. Shouldn't have lost the game. Absolutely no quality up front. Garde has no fight in him at all - sits there with no passion at all.
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It says a lot about the attitude of the other players when Westwood keeps getting picked. He's not good enough but he probably tries hard in training and says the right things. There are plenty of others in the squad who have simply pulled the chute.
It's his pointing ability which shines through.
The point he should be is pointless.
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We want him out
Randy Lerner out
We just don't think you understand
From European nights
To going down without a fight
We want Randy Lerner out
Always think of Billy Ray Cyrus "Achy Breaky Heart" when I hear that third line.
Probably because it's sung to that tune.
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Played reasonably well but once again a massive defensive fuck up kills us
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We want him out
Randy Lerner out
We just don't think you understand
From European nights
To going down without a fight
We want Randy Lerner out
Always think of Billy Ray Cyrus "Achy Breaky Heart" when I hear that third line.
Er, that's because it's set to the tune of Achy Breaky Heart by Billy Ray Cyrus!
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playing like a pub team the morning after a right good session! but with less energy , and with less loyalty!
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We want him out
Randy Lerner out
We just don't think you understand
From European nights
To going down without a fight
We want Randy Lerner out
Always think of Billy Ray Cyrus "Achy Breaky Heart" when I hear that third line.
Er, that's because it's set to the tune of Achy Breaky Heart by Billy Ray Cyrus!
Chuckle
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It says a lot about the attitude of the other players when Westwood keeps getting picked. He's not good enough but he probably tries hard in training and says the right things. There are plenty of others in the squad who have simply pulled the chute.
That's what crosses my mind every time is see his inevitable selection. Well done to Westwood for earning the right to play. Damn you to those much more talented who don't give a flying f##k.
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Guzan 3 - only a special type of keeper doesnt have a save to make all night but still grabs an assist. Clown
Hutton 5 - grafted as always but a ridiculously poor footballer
Lescott 6 - solid enough out of position, though think he had a share of blame in the equaliser playing everyone onside
Clark 7 - decent showing, missed two clear goals but defended well next to the car crash on his left
Cissokho 4 - granted he got zero protection from Ayew but is nowhere near good enough for our club in any division
Gil 5 - standard Gil showing, all fart and no sh*t
Westwood 4 - nothing player
Gueye 6 - standard Gueye showing, fine first half before disappearing after they scored
Ayew 5 - few decent runs, few blind alley runs. walked around the pitch. awful attitude
Gestede 6 - decent first half but hardly got a delivery to attack in the second. another woefully limited player
Veretout 4 - lively until they scored after which he disappeared
Gabby 6 - drew two yellow cards in quick succession
Green 5 - nothing really
Garde 3 - team would perform the same with no-one in charge, so pointless keeping him on
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It says a lot about the attitude of the other players when Westwood keeps getting picked. He's not good enough but he probably tries hard in training and says the right things. There are plenty of others in the squad who have simply pulled the chute.
I know, and he seems like a decent guy. Its just pathetic that we have no one obvious to play instead of him. His total lack of ability just frustrates me so much
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Awful game to watch. Two terrible teams who would struggle in the Championship. It shows how bad we were that most media outlets were emphasizing how improved our first half performance was. They were dreadful first half and I don't remember their goalkeeper making a decent save all night. Abysmal. Worst collection of players in living memory.
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I would like to have seen Gardner given some games.
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First half was ok, second half dreadful. I had to pop out second half, peered into local pubs window and they werent even showing it, Pointless was on instead. Like us, pointless. Nearly all over thank god.
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We want him out
Randy Lerner out
We just don't think you understand
From European nights
To going down without a fight
We want Randy Lerner out
Always think of Billy Ray Cyrus "Achy Breaky Heart" when I hear that third line.
Probably because it's sung to that tune.
It's almost like sonebody's taken that very song and deliberately changed the words! I have my suspicions about that "shitting on the City" one
as well....
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There's really no point getting any more upset about it, it's not going to stop being rubbish this side of the summer
Didn't watch it, slept through it, woke up with 5 minutes to go, checked score and felt nothing - no surprise, no anger, no disappointment.
I'm just used to it and expect it now
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It comes ro something when you're praying for a draw. Another 7 game consecutive losing streak, maybe more...
please garde resign
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Is it over yet??
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No system or tactics apparent designed to break Swansea down.Even in the first 20mins when we had reasonable possession there was no penetration.
I really do wonder what they do at Bodymore Heath all week.
Perhaps they play some other sport.
Maybe Hollis's report will discover what goes on.
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We're on 16 points now and we'll finish on 16 points.
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there isn't anybody I'd keep for next season
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Frustrating as some decent approach play let down by poor crossing and having no decent forwards
Agree with this. Carbon copy of so many games this season. No real pace or threat in the final third and then just waiting for one of a number of candidates to gift wrap the opposition a goal. This time it was two of the prime candidates - Hutton lost his man and Guzan didn't get to a ball that should have been his. Game over.
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We want him out
Randy Lerner out
We just don't think you understand
From European nights
To going down without a fight
We want Randy Lerner out
Always think of Billy Ray Cyrus "Achy Breaky Heart" when I hear that third line.
Probably because it's sung to that tune.
It's almost like sonebody's taken that very song and deliberately changed the words! I have my suspicions about that "shitting on the City" one
as well....
Now you've made me doubt that we made of the "Holte Enders in the Sky" tune.
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No system or tactics apparent designed to break Swansea down.Even in the first 20mins when we had reasonable possession there was no penetration.
I really do wonder what they do at Bodymore Heath all week.
Perhaps they play some other sport.
Maybe Hollis's report will discover what goes on.
(http://www.avfc.co.uk/javaImages/89/cb/0,,10265~12438409,00.jpg)
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Remi needs to go now. Sorry but just not up to it.
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8/10 for effort. 3/10 for ability. Hurry up next season please.
Effort should be the minimum for any player. Bottom line is we are frightening lack of quality.
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We have now LOST 6 on the bounce.
There was a time when a run like this would have caused headlines in the national press and questions in parliament.
Now, for Aston Villa it doesn't even raise an eyebrow and is probably considered as decent run for us.
Runs like this, and worse are far too frequent and far too easily accepted.
it's absolutely fucking criminal.
Garde, and pretty much every fucker who has 'turned out' for us this season can fuck right off!!
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Another defeat and one step closer to the drop.
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Garde out. Tonight, please.
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Westwood is a joke. There were so many times the ball come to him and the obvious thing to do is knock it first time square or diagonal. What does he do? he takes a touch gets closed down and out muscled. Surely there is a midfielder from the u21's who can knock a first time pass?
To be fair we could of had at least 2 pens for handball, Ashley Williams could of got a red and so should Leon Britton.
Gestede is also a joke. he could of made more of that Williams tussle and won a pen. No ability and no will to win.
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I would like to have seen Gardner given some games.
I take it you didn't see him today then?
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Not the only one, but Rudy Gestede is a truly embarrassing excuse for a footballer.
Less "Bambi on ice" , more "Bambi after 14 pints".
Honestly, what game were u watching? He won everything and worked tirelessly. Got a couple of efforts on target. Maybe you just want someone to take the anger out on, I don't know but I thought he was a solid 7.5/10 today
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It could all be done and dusted in 2 games and we will officially be Aston Villa (R).
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Not the only one, but Rudy Gestede is a truly embarrassing excuse for a footballer.
Less "Bambi on ice" , more "Bambi after 14 pints".
Honestly, what game were u watching? He won everything and worked tirelessly. Got a couple of efforts on target. Maybe you just want someone to take the anger out on, I don't know but I thought he was a solid 7.5/10 today
Not the only one, but Rudy Gestede is a truly embarrassing excuse for a footballer.
Less "Bambi on ice" , more "Bambi after 14 pints".
Honestly, what game were u watching? He won everything and worked tirelessly. Got a couple of efforts on target. Maybe you just want someone to take the anger out on, I don't know but I thought he was a solid 7.5/10 today
In the first half, yes.
In the second he contributed the square root of fuck all. 0/10
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At least now I know what it means when Gil takes a corner or free kick and puts one arm in the air.
It means it's going to a opponent...every fucking time...time after time after fucking time
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Another loss,another game without so much as a goal .Thank god there is only 7 games left
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Remi needs to go now. Sorry but just not up to it.
Given the fact that Hollis essentially said no one is safe I expect he'll be gone soon. He won't be able to handle the style of play necessary in the Championship anyway.
Barring Jack and Jordan Amavi I don't really care who goes.
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It could all be done and dusted in 2 games and we will officially be Aston Villa (R).
Bring it on for Christ's sake
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Not the only one, but Rudy Gestede is a truly embarrassing excuse for a footballer.
Less "Bambi on ice" , more "Bambi after 14 pints".
Honestly, what game were u watching? He won everything and worked tirelessly. Got a couple of efforts on target. Maybe you just want someone to take the anger out on, I don't know but I thought he was a solid 7.5/10 today
Maybe your chair was facing a different way?
...and not taking my anger? Out on him at all, hence saying he wasn't the only one.
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It could all be done and dusted in 2 games and we will officially be Aston Villa (R).
It will be a blessed release when it comes. Like putting a suffering pet to sleep
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the same story as many games this season. We had the upper hand for long periods without ever suggesting that we would convert it into goals. Then we give away a joke goal and it's game over. Hutton let his man go past him and Guzan should have cleaned up, but instead the ball bounces of a Swansea player - he had no idea where it went - and bounces into the net.
It's hard to get annoyed about it now it has happened so often. It's hard not to get annoyed about the commentators and pundits - especially Redknapp, who seemed to have Swansea confused with Barcelona.
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It could all be done and dusted in 2 games and we will officially be Aston Villa (R).
It will be a blessed release when it comes. Like putting a suffering pet to sleep
Knowing us we'll jam a result and everyone else will lose to drag it on for a few more weeks longer than necessary.
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Gil isn't even all fart, he's just shite as is Westwood.
Shocking players!
Thought Rudy looked decent first half, faded second but also had zero service.
He'll score a hatful in the championship with the right service.
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I would like to have seen Gardner given some games.
I take it you didn't see him today then?
No. Was he poor ?
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Lose the next 3 and we are officially down aren't we? My heart says please lose the next 3 and get it over with so I don't have to watch games and get so angry I need to kick the dog!
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Rudy will definitely do a job for us in the Chumps league
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At least now I know what it means when Gil takes a corner or free kick and puts one arm in the air.
It means it's going to a opponent...every fucking time...time after time after fucking time
Indeed. It looks he's been given lessons by Westwood.
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Seeing as Gestede is our only option up front, the fact we aren't just playing two players outwide and putting in crosses all game is ridiculous.
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a sad sight was sir Brian sat in the stands possibly wondering how did we get into this sorry mess thinking about all the great players that have worn OUR famous shirt and what they gave for the cause
Hang your heads in shame the lot of you
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Rudy will definitely do a job for us in the Chumps league
I think the Champions League is out of our reach this season mate. We just have to accept this.
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Didn't think we were that bad (without creating bugger all) up until they scored then they gained a bit of confidence and that was enough.
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Lose the next 3 and we are officially down aren't we? My heart says please lose the next 3 and get it over with so I don't have to watch games and get so angry I need to kick the dog!
I think we would be as Newcastle v Sunderland tomorrow and then Norwich play both of them during their next 3 games.
33rd game is the earliest we could officially drop.
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Remi needs to go now. Sorry but just not up to it.
Given the fact that Hollis essentially said no one is safe I expect he'll be gone soon. He won't be able to handle the style of play necessary in the Championship anyway.
Barring Jack and Jordan Amavi I don't really care who goes.
are those two benefiting by getting better the less they play?
Grealish has been dog awful this season and Amavi cost us multiple points by jumping out of physical contact early in the season
if they both spend the summer growing a pair then sure their ability will stand out in the second division
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There's not one player I'd be gutted to see leave.
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Don't know what to say. Heard the first half commentary and we were much better than Swansea but once again fuck all. This is truly embarrassing.
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Seeing as Gestede is our only option up front, the fact we aren't just playing two players outwide and putting in crosses all game is ridiculous.
I said the same in the match thread. That team selection today was atrocious.
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It could all be done and dusted in 2 games and we will officially be Aston Villa (R).
It will be a blessed release when it comes. Like putting a suffering pet to sleep
"What's that boy? You're trying to tell me something? It's 50% off the Macron training range?"
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One error which gifted them their only effort on target and our lack of any kind of cutting edge means another defeat. Our entire season summed up in a single 90 minutes.
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There's not one player I'd be gutted to see leave.
ive been saying this for months.
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Remi Garde is no doubt a nice guy but once again that was an utter
F*ckin disgrace just then.
Wtf was Guzan doing for their goal - yet he wasn't bothered as he knows there's no bollocking coming his way from the gaffer.
Half hearted attempts to regain possession after losing the ball each time were evident on the faces of all outfield players.
We continue to regress. Difficult as it seems he is managing to pull that off albeit as a result of procrastination. Don't start me on Gabby getting a run out.
Nothing positive has come out of anything since his appointment. Nothing.
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Garde and the team are shit aren't they.
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Micah Richards can't get in the worst Villa team I've ever seen. That says all you need to know about Micah Richards.
I didn't realise Westwood was playing, I'd be more than happy not to see a single player from the starting eleven plus the likes of Agbonlahor and Richards ever again.
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Garde and the team are shit aren't they.
Fraid so. As much as we had all hoped it was otherwise. There is literally nothing to be hopeful about on the playing side of the club.
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Seeing as Gestede is our only option up front, the fact we aren't just playing two players outwide and putting in crosses all game is ridiculous.
I said the same in the match thread. That team selection today was atrocious.
But then again what was the alternative? Gabby? You're right if we are playing Gestede we need to cross the ball. But then if both wingers are injured it limits that option too. Gabby is a fat fucking waste of space and Gestede is hugely limited in what he can do. Ayew is an inside forward at best. Garde is really fucked in that department and it must be depressing to be a midfielder at Villa right knowing full well none of the forwards are any good at all.
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There's not one player I'd be gutted to see leave.
ive been saying this for months.
Exactly. Why would I want to see any of these players stay when they've heaped humiliation and embarrassment on the club and the fans, and subjected us to what will turn out as the worst season of our history.
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Let this season end now. So bored of it.
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Remi needs to go now. Sorry but just not up to it.
Given the fact that Hollis essentially said no one is safe I expect he'll be gone soon. He won't be able to handle the style of play necessary in the Championship anyway.
Barring Jack and Jordan Amavi I don't really care who goes.
are those two benefiting by getting better the less they play?
Grealish has been dog awful this season and Amavi cost us multiple points by jumping out of physical contact early in the season
if they both spend the summer growing a pair then sure their ability will stand out in the second division
You mean the two kids that are better than anyone in our team?
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Seeing as Gestede is our only option up front, the fact we aren't just playing two players outwide and putting in crosses all game is ridiculous.
I said the same in the match thread. That team selection today was atrocious.
But then again what was the alternative? Gabby? You're right if we are playing Gestede we need to cross the ball. But then if both wingers are injured it limits that option too. Gabby is a fat fucking waste of space and Gestede is hugely limited in what he can do. Ayew is an inside forward at best. Garde is really fucked in that department and it must be depressing to be a midfielder at Villa right knowing full well none of the forwards are any good at all.
Then he could have done a Del Bosque. When he had no forwards good enough for his team he just replaced them with a flooded midfield and turned his midfield into a rotating attack. Alternately he could have done the replacement by defenders and parked the bus by grinding out some nil nil draws or nicking goals from very drilled set pieces. The fact that not even our set peices have improved really is inexcusable.
Garde is meant to be a modern football manager. You adjust your tactics to what you have, drill your team the way you want, show some improvment over time. He has not done much of that at all unfortunately.
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We have been shocking for years and kept up by a quality centre forward, something we no longer have
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Off course he could have tried other things. It also goes back to what he found when he got to the club and exactly how much damage had been done to team chemistry? How responsive were the players to coaching? Did he have the talent to try new things? Not having a good forward really limits things. And when you throw in a shit goalkeeper and a CB and team captain who didn't give a flying fuck then trying to be tactically astute falls on deaf ears.
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Off course he could have tried other things. It also goes back to what he found when he got to the club and exactly how much damage had been done to team chemistry? How responsive were the players to coaching? Did he have the talent to try new things? Not having a good forward really limits things. And when you throw in a shit goalkeeper and a CB and team captain who didn't give a flying fuck then trying to be tactically astute falls on deaf ears.
I got the impression that he's been playing the "best" players given to him to make a point to Hollis. I don't think his current line-ups are what's best going forward considering our position but I'm sure he'll be gone in the summer anyways.
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Four and a half months mate. You have got to show some improvement over that amount of time. Even if its "they are fitter" or "we now at least have good drilled set pieces" or "at least we play with an attractive style" or "at least we have a solid formation where everyone knows their position".
He has nothing to point to.
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Well we're definitely fitter than when Sherwood was here. It was ridiculous how unfit most of the squad looked even by the time he left after a quarter if the season.
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We want him out
Randy Lerner out
We just don't think you understand
From European nights
To going down without a fight
We want Randy Lerner out
Always think of Billy Ray Cyrus "Achy Breaky Heart" when I hear that third line.
😂
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I thought we played alright. Better than them anyway. We lack pace in midfield and a cutting edge.
Westwood his usual anonymous self, while hats off to Guzan for yet another goal he's gifted and with it three points. Them pair have got to go.
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a sad sight was sir Brian sat in the stands possibly wondering how did we get into this sorry mess thinking about all the great players that have worn OUR famous shirt and what they gave for the cause
Hang your heads in shame the lot of you
Possibly but don't forget the great man made his debut at 17 years old at our lowest ever period
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The very worst position to have a truly shit, bag of nerves player is goalkeeper. It permeates the whole side. In the same way that a good keeper instills confidence, a bad one drains it away.
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Seeing as Gestede is our only option up front, the fact we aren't just playing two players outwide and putting in crosses all game is ridiculous.
I said the same in the match thread. That team selection today was atrocious.
But then again what was the alternative? Gabby? You're right if we are playing Gestede we need to cross the ball. But then if both wingers are injured it limits that option too. Gabby is a fat fucking waste of space and Gestede is hugely limited in what he can do. Ayew is an inside forward at best. Garde is really fucked in that department and it must be depressing to be a midfielder at Villa right knowing full well none of the forwards are any good at all.
Gil one side, Sinclair the other. Would we have been any worse off with Westwood not on the pitch?
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We want guzan out
Bradley guzan out
You just don't seem to understand
From teams prepared to fight
To players who are sh-te
We want Bradley guzan out.
Replace guzan with lescott, joleon lescott or richards, Micah Richards and any
Current Villa player.
I feel nothing for them because they embarrass my club, the claret and blue of Villa
and every single fan of AVFC
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Same shit different week.
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Well we're definitely fitter than when Sherwood was here.......
Really?
So we are fitter but are still bottom of the 'distance covered' tables (apparantly).
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Out of touch with most but thought Rudy did OK today. Won loads of flick ons, all to nobody, and a couple of efforts on goal. Think he might be alright next season. Thought Sinclair might have come on, all our players are pretty crap but he seems to be less crap than most. Bought Bent to save us a while ago, what a bit of money on a decent striker in Jan might have done, seeing no one's pulled away from us despite 6 losses in a row. Still England Cricket, Rugby and the Villa.....in the words of Meatloaf, 2 out of 3 ain't bad
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I thought he did ok too.
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Guzan is gash
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Rudi equitted himself well today and actually looked reasonably effective. Westy and Gil were poor. I think we really are shooting ourselves in the foot playing them half the time.
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I would like to have seen Gardner given some games.
I take it you didn't see him today then?
No. Was he poor ?
Yes
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Rudi equitted himself well today and actually looked reasonably effective. Westy and Gil were poor. I think we really are shooting ourselves in the foot playing them half the time.
At least Gil touched the ball.
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Rudi equitted himself well today and actually looked reasonably effective. Westy and Gil were poor. I think we really are shooting ourselves in the foot playing them half the time.
At least Gil touched the ball.
He's woefully ineffective. He is a real trier and tirelessly shows for the ball but as I understand it his role is as creative attacking midfielder. When was the last time his involvement perpetuated any kind of attacking intent? What is his purpose?
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For me, it only emphasises how poor we are and how far we have fallen when Gestede was one of our "better" players. Quite possibly the worst player I've seen at the Villa along with the laughable Guzan. This against an equally shocking Swansea. It's just awful
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I thought he did ok too.
If he's going to play then we at least need to play somewhat to his strengths. We need someone running off his flick ons and plenty of crosses coming in to the box with players looking for knock downs. We had very little of that today and Gestede was very isolated for long periods of the game.
I'm still not sold on him, but think he could be useful as an impact sub next season.
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We lost today because we have a joke of a goalkeeper. How many games has Guzan lost us? If I ever see that twat in a villa shirt again, it will be too soon.
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I don't understand how Guzan has become this bad. I mean from a fundamentals stand point. The amount of mental errors he makes now, and really over the past two seasons is literally astonishing for someone who has been playing at this level and internationally for this length of time. It's not as if he had a Scott Carson moment to point to that started all of this. It just kind of happened and the mistakes are not even subtle, but often just glaring errors with disastrous consequences. He has to be one of the players to leave at the end of the season because its almost impossible to have any faith in him anymore. In fact, both Bunn and Guzan need to go. Either give Steer a shot, or ideally bring in someone completely new.
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As woeful as Guzan was for the goal, great defending by Hutton to let the player get goal side of him.
I actually thought Gestede did ok, but the lack of pace alongside him was a joke. Gil looks good but where is the end product? Ayew I have lost respect for since that injury time booking at Norwich, he don't give a shit. Westwood was useless and Vertout likewise. Gana, my lad text me to say how well he was playing, I said he is ok till we are losing and proved right. Cissokho should have been off against a fast winger who was shit.
I think Garde needs to go now and put McDonald or Sid in charge for the rest of the season and give some of the kids a chance. We are down with these clowns and lets be honest, a few kids will at least give a stuff
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For me, it only emphasises how poor we are and how far we have fallen when Gestede was one of our "better" players. Quite possibly the worst player I've seen at the Villa along with the laughable Guzan. This against an equally shocking Swansea. It's just awful
I suspect you are not an old git Allan C lol
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This, bumping along the bottom with no hope of ever getting to stay in the PL, shtick is difficult enough from a distance. What it must feel like for the away fans is unbelievably crap.
I just want to register my appreciation for everybody who was at Swansea, today.
You are absolute Heroes. It can't have been easy. UTV.
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Ah, that would be the McDonald who was in charge at Spurs.
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Ah, that would be the McDonald who was in charge at Spurs.
exactly . never again please .
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We have no pace in the side total no-one to take defenders on, how many times do we have to watch Hutton try to run past the full back? we have probably three players in that team that are worth holding on to and they will probably be the ones we sell at the end of the season. Gestede he may do better in the championship but he is not a premiership player if we are looking to the future.
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We have no pace in the side total no-one to take defenders on, how many times do we have to watch Hutton try to run past the full back? we have probably three players in that team that are worth holding on to and they will probably be the ones we sell at the end of the season. Gestede he may do better in the championship but he is not a premiership player if we are looking to the future.
I agree.
Please see the Remi Garde thread.
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For me, it only emphasises how poor we are and how far we have fallen when Gestede was one of our "better" players. Quite possibly the worst player I've seen at the Villa along with the laughable Guzan. This against an equally shocking Swansea. It's just awful
Gestede's first half performance was what you'd want from a centre forward of his height and build.
The problem is he has only delivered that about twice this season.
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We want guzan out
Bradley guzan out
You just don't seem to understand
From teams prepared to fight
To players who are sh-te
We want Bradley guzan out.
Replace guzan with lescott, joleon lescott or richards, Micah Richards and any
Current Villa player.
I feel nothing for them because they embarrass my club, the claret and blue of Villa
and every single fan of AVFC
I reckon that could work quite well to the tune of 'Achy Breaky Heart' by that Billy Ray Cyrus fella...
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For what it's worth, I think the players really looked like they cared today. The first half was littered with decent bits of possession, chasing down, interceptions and half chances. The thing we are currently missing is the spark and unfortunately, I think our two most creative players are traore and grealish who are both out injured. You are hoping one of the others will step up to the plate but limited ability coupled with bad luck and a lack of confidence means it's becoming less likely and more of a surprise when it happens.
The best of the bunch were Lescott, Cissokho Clark and Gestede
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Ah, that would be the McDonald who was in charge at Spurs.
exactly . never again please .
I totally agree, whatever his reasons at the time, never again
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Villa lost. How do you know? It's Saturday.
I've become so numb...
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Villa lost. How do you know? It's Saturday.
I've become so numb...
I wasn't thinking that last weekend ;)
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It's such a sad state of affairs when defeats become meaningless, I see a 1 goal defeat as a bonus.
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Pretty uninspiring stuff...I don't think I have ever seen a team, en masse, walk so much during a game. Is that another record we have set this season.
Just think of all the money we could have raised for charity if these walks were sponsored.
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Guzan you clown, and I might be in the minority here, but what does Veretout bring, to me he is the French version of Westwood without the pointing, says something when a 4 foot 6 midget runs the midfield ala Britton.
Gestede looked up for it first half it seemed to me that Williams had upset him early on, if that is the case someone should upset him before every game and again at half time.
Remi not looking good for your job prospects in the Midlands.
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The job in the Midlands is Remi Garde's to keep or walk away from. The top item on Steve Hollis's list is "Don't Waste Money". Underlined three times. If Remi Garde were to be sacked, having not been allowed to sign a single player of his choice, his case for constructive dismissal would be, in my opinion, indisputable.
If he goes, which bearing in mind the treatment he has received from all quarters would be entirely justified, it will be his call. There is no way whatsoever that Randy Lerner will sanction another manager compensation payout.
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So we keep him so we don't have to pay out more money? Could be right as it deffo sounds like it's come out of Randy's "cunning plan" folder.
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For me, it only emphasises how poor we are and how far we have fallen when Gestede was one of our "better" players. Quite possibly the worst player I've seen at the Villa along with the laughable Guzan. This against an equally shocking Swansea. It's just awful
I suspect you are not an old git Allan C lol
I watched Andy Lochead from the back of the Witton Lane end Villain from Luton which makes me an old git I think
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Appreciate your point Brian, but as nice as he comes across and the limited obvious candidates if he were to go, pushed or jumped, we should not stop with someone because of money or lack of perceived alternatives. I have been undecided about him from day one, as I am sure you are aware, but he is doing little to make me come over to his side, as stated I believe that a few of the malingerers will still be here next season, I also believe some of the french contingent wont be, with that being the case, I do not think he will be able to have the effect he may think he can.
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Yes is the answer to that. If it is cheaper to keep him and he wants to put up with more of the club he will stay.
If he wants to stay he will have far more leverage for funding than an incoming Nigel Pearson/Steve Bruce/Schteve McClaren/Tony Pulis/Neil Warnock/Billy Davies because he was denied funds in January. He can say to Steve Hollis that he took all the January shit but now it is back me or sack me time.
I still think whether he stays or goes is a coin toss. What is certain is that Remi Garde's funding demands will be substantially higher than some occupant of the managerial last chance saloon desperate for the Villa gig. There are plenty of those hoping that Garde will walk.
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How many times did we see the midfielders pass back to a defender how many through balls did they supply, Westwood has no drive in him whatsoever a very poor player.
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ROBBO we have been like that for years. It comes from having players not technically good enough to play the precision game. You can win games as Leicester have shown very clearly with discipline, energy, team spirit and ruthless organisation. You fall down when you try to play Barcelona style without their class of players. The back pass or the sideways pass is the easy option. The through ball or the running forward thrust are much harder to bring off so we pass sideways or backwards until we lose or give away possession of the football.
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The very worst position to have a truly shit, bag of nerves player is goalkeeper. It permeates the whole side. In the same way that a good keeper instills confidence, a bad one drains it away.
we often disagree about things Brian, but you're bang on the money there mate, unfortunately.
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I have not seen anything to date that remotely convinces me that Remi Garde can motivate the squad he has inherited and boy is it a poverty of an inheritance; a squad of sub standard Premiership players if ever there was one, with a truly questionalbe goalkeeper (who has gone from Brad to Bad to worse).
A shocking mistake by Bad Gazzoon in goal and following on from the lack of concentration again Man City last season and then Palace and Chelsea this season (all appalling passes that showed the vision of Mr Maggoo) I can accept that Remi Garde has little of any quality to work with. Quite how Almstadt and Reilly were not able to recruit a decent keeper last summer is staggering beyond belief (unless of course any would be Villa keeper looked at the squad and thought "no thanks."
Swansea were poor yesterday and Villa should have got something out of the game but we do not have a squad of players that is fit for Premiership purpose. We are not able to score and no can we defend; a normal day at the office really.
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We have no pace in the side total no-one to take defenders on, how many times do we have to watch Hutton try to run past the full back? we have probably three players in that team that are worth holding on to and they will probably be the ones we sell at the end of the season. Gestede he may do better in the championship but he is not a premiership player if we are looking to the future.
this 100%
we have to look long term
yes justhead, bacuna, westwood etc may do a job in the championship but when we come back up we will have to get rid as they arent good enough
the rebuilding job is massive
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Gestede had an overhead kick on target in the second half.
I had to go and lie down at that point.
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Gestede had an overhead kick on target in the second half.
I had to go and lie down at that point.
did guzan manage to save it?
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The job in the Midlands is Remi Garde's to keep or walk away from. The top item on Steve Hollis's list is "Don't Waste Money". Underlined three times. If Remi Garde were to be sacked, having not been allowed to sign a single player of his choice, his case for constructive dismissal would be, in my opinion, indisputable.
If he goes, which bearing in mind the treatment he has received from all quarters would be entirely justified, it will be his call. There is no way whatsoever that Randy Lerner will sanction another manager compensation payout.
A few weeks ago I would have agreed with you but I feel Mr Lerner will have been pushed into a very tight corner and will authorize his dismissal Ithink he will go either today or In the next couple of days
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We don't really know what degree of rebuilding is going to be done. In the summer Garde may stay, Garde may go. If he stays we don't know what kind of a budget he is going to get. To get a high quality goalkeeper, a striker, a full back, a centre back and a midfield hardman would set us back £30 million at least. If Garde demands that sort of money Steve Hollis may well jibe and Remi will go.
Then would come the interesting part. If we went shopping for Moyes, or Howe or Rodgers or Rowett, their response would be "I am not coming if you are going to treat me like you treated Remi Garde".
That would bring into play Plan B. We go shopping for desperate managers like Pearson, McClaren, Davies, Warnock etc. who would convince Steve Hollis that they could get us back in the Premiership with Guzan, Bacuna, Lescott, Westwood, Agbonlahor, Sinclair, Gil, Gestede, Clark and other assorted malingerers. The sheer cheapness of the Plan B option could see it in place next season.
Plan B might work, but as I have said before it would establish the height of our ambition as hoping to be as good as West Bromwich. Albion.
I am afraid it is going to be a long, nervous summer.
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i would hazard a wild guess that as lerner did nothing in jan to give us a chance of a minimum of 100 million next season there isnt going to be a lot of money about
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The lack of money is why the third rate managers keep hoping for a call from B6.
Being absolutely honest Villa next season could be a dream ticket for some tosser like McClaren. Shit moved on out of the dressing room, young players to come in, change of luck, fairer refereeing, players coming back from loan, injured players returning. Winning some games in the he Championship next season could be achieved with minimal managerial input. Brian Little could do it in his lunch break.
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We want him out
Randy Lerner out
We just don't think you understand
From European nights
To going down without a fight
We want Randy Lerner out
Always think of Billy Ray Cyrus "Achy Breaky Heart" when I hear that third line.
Er, that's because it's set to the tune of Achy Breaky Heart by Billy Ray Cyrus!
Only just got round to reading the thread and I'm laughing my head off
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There's one bright spot in all of this. I heard the commentator at Goodison yesterday say that Everton have scored less goals at home this season than Aston Villa. So next time someone takes the piss throw that stat in their faces that'll shut 'em up.
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Standard away performance, ending in another defeat. Swansea were very poor yet Guzan found a way to set up another defeat. My son on the way home said he didn't want me to get any more away tickets this season. All very sad! For me I just want the season over. Moyes would be my choice if Villa could get him.
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I scripted a letter to Hollis last night in the heat of my post match disappointment.
Usually I save these things to 'draft' to see how I'm feeling the following morning - 9 out of 10 times I delete it.
This morning however was 'the tenth' occasion and therefore he now has it in his inbox warts an all.
It has come to the point now where I don't even want to think about football and whenever I meet anyone in my line of business that talks about it - I try and divert the conversation to avoid the same old same old open mouthed shaking of head from the person I'm speaking to. 5,4,3,2,1 "What the f*cks happening at your club............." (here we go again zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz)
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We want him out
Randy Lerner out
We just don't think you understand
From European nights
To going down without a fight
We want Randy Lerner out
Always think of Billy Ray Cyrus "Achy Breaky Heart" when I hear that third line.
Er, that's because it's set to the tune of Achy Breaky Heart by Billy Ray Cyrus!
Only just got round to reading the thread and I'm laughing my head off
Doh !
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Seeing as Gestede is our only option up front, the fact we aren't just playing two players outwide and putting in crosses all game is ridiculous.
I said the same in the match thread. That team selection today was atrocious.
Another reason Remi Garde has got to go asap. Clueless and about as inspirational as rice pudding. Bring in Pearson NOW. Start the rebuilding programme immediately. Doing nothing now only hampers our chances for next season.
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Guzan is gash
Rubbish. Gash is useful.
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Seeing as Gestede is our only option up front, the fact we aren't just playing two players outwide and putting in crosses all game is ridiculous.
I said the same in the match thread. That team selection today was atrocious.
Another reason Remi Garde has got to go asap. Clueless and about as inspirational as rice pudding. Bring in Pearson NOW. Start the rebuilding programme immediately. Doing nothing now only hampers our chances for next season.
I wonder which players and journalists Pearson will physically and verbally assault while representing Aston Villa. Exciting isn't it.
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Ah, that would be the McDonald who was in charge at Spurs.
exactly . never again please .
There is simply no point in giving Mcdonald another chance. Remember his team selection against Spurs? Truly abysmal. No. Cut our losses on Garde and bring in Pearson NOW.
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Seeing as Gestede is our only option up front, the fact we aren't just playing two players outwide and putting in crosses all game is ridiculous.
I said the same in the match thread. That team selection today was atrocious.
Another reason Remi Garde has got to go asap. Clueless and about as inspirational as rice pudding. Bring in Pearson NOW. Start the rebuilding programme immediately. Doing nothing now only hampers our chances for next season.
I wonder which players and journalists Pearson will physically and verbally assault while representing Aston Villa. Exciting isn't it.
Ok. Let's just stick to having "nice guys" in charge because that's been very successful so far hasn't it?
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Seeing as Gestede is our only option up front, the fact we aren't just playing two players outwide and putting in crosses all game is ridiculous.
I said the same in the match thread. That team selection today was atrocious.
Another reason Remi Garde has got to go asap. Clueless and about as inspirational as rice pudding. Bring in Pearson NOW. Start the rebuilding programme immediately. Doing nothing now only hampers our chances for next season.
I wonder which players and journalists Pearson will physically and verbally assault while representing Aston Villa. Exciting isn't it.
Ok. Let's just stick to having "nice guys" in charge because that's been very successful so far hasn't it?
When representing AVFC nice guys get my vote over violent psychopaths every time.
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There must be a more inspirational choice then Pearson, Bruce or Moyes. Watford found Flores? Wet Spam got Bilic but there were previous connections, but they still had to take the risk, albeit not a great one with his previous managerial experience. No doubt Villa will once again go for tried and tested even if not very successful, now the Garde experiment didn't work.
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Seeing as Gestede is our only option up front, the fact we aren't just playing two players outwide and putting in crosses all game is ridiculous.
I said the same in the match thread. That team selection today was atrocious.
Another reason Remi Garde has got to go asap. Clueless and about as inspirational as rice pudding. Bring in Pearson NOW. Start the rebuilding programme immediately. Doing nothing now only hampers our chances for next season.
I wonder which players and journalists Pearson will physically and verbally assault while representing Aston Villa. Exciting isn't it.
Ok. Let's just stick to having "nice guys" in charge because that's been very successful so far hasn't it?
oh and another thing. I dont like Pearson. He comes across as a bit of a prick. But that is irrelevant. He worked a minor miracle in keeping Leicester up last season and laid the foundations for Leicesters current success. That would do for me. Even if ultimately he hits his glass ceiling like at Leicester.
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Seeing as Gestede is our only option up front, the fact we aren't just playing two players outwide and putting in crosses all game is ridiculous.
I said the same in the match thread. That team selection today was atrocious.
Another reason Remi Garde has got to go asap. Clueless and about as inspirational as rice pudding. Bring in Pearson NOW. Start the rebuilding programme immediately. Doing nothing now only hampers our chances for next season.
I wonder which players and journalists Pearson will physically and verbally assault while representing Aston Villa. Exciting isn't it.
Ok. Let's just stick to having "nice guys" in charge because that's been very successful so far hasn't it?
When representing AVFC nice guys get my vote over violent psychopaths every time.
Violent psychopath? Come on mate.
That Brian Clough guy was a bit of an arsehole wasn't he? His record wasn't too bad but hey we wouldn't want his type at the Villa would we?
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Seeing as Gestede is our only option up front, the fact we aren't just playing two players outwide and putting in crosses all game is ridiculous.
I said the same in the match thread. That team selection today was atrocious.
Another reason Remi Garde has got to go asap. Clueless and about as inspirational as rice pudding. Bring in Pearson NOW. Start the rebuilding programme immediately. Doing nothing now only hampers our chances for next season.
I wonder which players and journalists Pearson will physically and verbally assault while representing Aston Villa. Exciting isn't it.
Ok. Let's just stick to having "nice guys" in charge because that's been very successful so far hasn't it?
When representing AVFC nice guys get my vote over violent psychopaths every time.
Violent psychopath? Come on mate.
That Brian Clough guy was a bit of an arsehole wasn't he? His record wasn't too bad but hey we wouldn't want his type at the Villa would we?
If he isn't a violent psychopath then what is he? I can see the temptation based on his tenure at Leicester but I'm not so keen to excuse his appalling behaviour.
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We've had quite enough embarrassment to put up with at Villa without appointing Nigel sodding Pearson.
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There is quite a lot of middle ground there you know, Mr Edge? It's not just a straight choice between a nice guy and an unhinged maniac. I'm not even sure why Garde keeps being labelled "nice" anyway - I think you're confusing "nice" with "conducts himself with dignity". Just because it hasn't worked out for a man of his temperament doesn't mean we should go for his polar opposite and appoint a vicious thug who can't control his aggression. You might as well give the job to Rik Waller on the basis that we tried a thin bloke and he was rubbish. There must be some ambitious, talented manager out there who can do the job without resorting to violence.
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You might as well give the job to Rik Waller on the basis that we tried a thin bloke and he was rubbish.
Excellent. Ditto 'we tried passing football so let's go long', or 'we tried foreign so let's go British' (that last one is my favourite).
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We've had quite enough embarrassment to put up with at Villa without appointing Nigel sodding Pearson.
Ok then who?
Moyes- championship? No way.
Bruce- sit down potato head? I don't think so.
Mclaren- utterly useless & overrated.
Rodgers- possibly
I'm running out of managers who might take a job in the championship. We need a tried and tested experienced manager who understands the challenge of the championship. It's my honest opinion that for all his faults Pearson would do a job for us.
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Pearson is a certified lunatic
That is precisely the last sort of personality we want dropping into the monumental clusterfuck that is Aston Villa.
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There is quite a lot of middle ground there you know, Mr Edge? It's not just a straight choice between a nice guy and an unhinged maniac. I'm not even sure why Garde keeps being labelled "nice" anyway - I think you're confusing "nice" with "conducts himself with dignity". Just because it hasn't worked out for a man of his temperament doesn't mean we should go for his polar opposite and appoint a vicious thug who can't control his aggression. You might as well give the job to Rik Waller on the basis that we tried a thin bloke and he was rubbish. There must be some ambitious, talented manager out there who can do the job without resorting to violence.
I didn't call him any of those things. Managers lose it from time to time. Keegan, Pardew, Benitez, Clough, Wenger, Strachan, Di Canio etc etc have all been involved in violent outbursts towards players, refs, each other. Your right there's a lot of middle ground between nice and nuts but my main concern is whether they can do a job for us. IMHO Pearson can in the short term.
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Pearson is a certified lunatic
That is precisely the last sort of personality we want dropping into the monumental clusterfuck that is Aston Villa.
I don't think he has actually been certified.
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I reckon we'll end up with Lennon.
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There is quite a lot of middle ground there you know, Mr Edge? It's not just a straight choice between a nice guy and an unhinged maniac. I'm not even sure why Garde keeps being labelled "nice" anyway - I think you're confusing "nice" with "conducts himself with dignity". Just because it hasn't worked out for a man of his temperament doesn't mean we should go for his polar opposite and appoint a vicious thug who can't control his aggression. You might as well give the job to Rik Waller on the basis that we tried a thin bloke and he was rubbish. There must be some ambitious, talented manager out there who can do the job without resorting to violence.
I didn't call him any of those things. Managers lose it from time to time. Keegan, Pardew, Benitez, Clough, Wenger, Strachan, Di Canio etc etc have all been involved in violent outbursts towards players, refs, each other. Your right there's a lot of middle ground between nice and nuts but my main concern is whether they can do a job for us. IMHO Pearson can in the short term.
There's a big difference between those managers losing their tempers in the heat of the moment and the sort of inherent and consistent air of menace displayed publicly by Pearson. Watch that ostrich interview with that journo last year; would you really like to see a Villa manager aggressively bullying a reporter like that? He looked like a dick. And what makes you think his approach would work with our lot anyway? It did bugger all for Leicester for thirty games last season, they were rock bottom in April, which is presumably why he was so bloody angry in the first place. Everyone seems to have forgotten how abject he was until the run in. Maybe he punched his team into form for the last seven games, who knows? Whatever he did to turn it around, it was a blip in a largely unspectacular managerial career. I don't think a seven game hot streak is nearly enough to make anyone our saviour, let alone one who behaves like Gripper Stebson.
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If a short-term rescue operation is enough to appoint a manager on then we might as well re-appoint Sherwood.
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There is quite a lot of middle ground there you know, Mr Edge? It's not just a straight choice between a nice guy and an unhinged maniac. I'm not even sure why Garde keeps being labelled "nice" anyway - I think you're confusing "nice" with "conducts himself with dignity". Just because it hasn't worked out for a man of his temperament doesn't mean we should go for his polar opposite and appoint a vicious thug who can't control his aggression. You might as well give the job to Rik Waller on the basis that we tried a thin bloke and he was rubbish. There must be some ambitious, talented manager out there who can do the job without resorting to violence.
I didn't call him any of those things. Managers lose it from time to time. Keegan, Pardew, Benitez, Clough, Wenger, Strachan, Di Canio etc etc have all been involved in violent outbursts towards players, refs, each other. Your right there's a lot of middle ground between nice and nuts but my main concern is whether they can do a job for us. IMHO Pearson can in the short term.
There's a big difference between those managers losing their tempers in the heat of the moment and the sort of inherent and consistent air of menace displayed publicly by Pearson. Watch that ostrich interview with that journo last year; would you really like to see a Villa manager aggressively bullying a reporter like that? He looked like a dick. And what makes you think his approach would work with our lot anyway? It did bugger all for Leicester for thirty games last season, they were rock bottom in April, which is presumably why he was so bloody angry in the first place. Everyone seems to have forgotten how abject he was until the run in. Maybe he punched his team into form for the last seven games, who knows? Whatever he did to turn it around, it was a blip in a largely unspectacular managerial career. I don't think a seven game hot streak is nearly enough to make anyone our saviour, let alone one who behaves like Gripper Stebson.
Well to be fair to Pearson he got Leicester promoted from L1 to the Champ (first spell) and then from promoted to the Prem in his second spell. Granted his top flight achievements end at that 7 game run, but as far as getting a team promoted, he'd be as good a bet as anyone we're likely to get and more likely than Garde. I don't like the guy but if we have to have a total fuck trumpet in charge, who will bring some success, then so be it.
I would prefer Rodgers that being said. But he's unlikely to want the job.
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There's one bright spot in all of this. I heard the commentator at Goodison yesterday say that Everton have scored less goals at home this season than Aston Villa. So next time someone takes the piss throw that stat in their faces that'll shut 'em up.
What do we do when they point out they scored four against us?
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We don't really know what degree of rebuilding is going to be done. In the summer Garde may stay, Garde may go. If he stays we don't know what kind of a budget he is going to get. To get a high quality goalkeeper, a striker, a full back, a centre back and a midfield hardman would set us back £30 million at least. If Garde demands that sort of money Steve Hollis may well jibe and Remi will go.
Then would come the interesting part. If we went shopping for Moyes, or Howe or Rodgers or Rowett, their response would be "I am not coming if you are going to treat me like you treated Remi Garde".
That would bring into play Plan B. We go shopping for desperate managers like Pearson, McClaren, Davies, Warnock etc. who would convince Steve Hollis that they could get us back in the Premiership with Guzan, Bacuna, Lescott, Westwood, Agbonlahor, Sinclair, Gil, Gestede, Clark and other assorted malingerers. The sheer cheapness of the Plan B option could see it in place next season.
Plan B might work, but as I have said before it would establish the height of our ambition as hoping to be as good as West Bromwich. Albion.
I am afraid it is going to be a long, nervous summer.
Brian
I think you're being a bit harsh on Hollis and too pro Garde with some of your comments (the bit about claiming for constuctive dismissal).
Hollis certainly won't want to waste money with another payoff, but Garde has done very little to impress the new football board so far (albeit in a very difficult situation).
The nub of the issue may lie in how much money is tied up in existing player contracts which don't have relegation clauses. If the only option is to stick with many of the existing squad, then Garde has to go and he's failed to improve the younger (french) players and his relationship with the senior players is broke beyond repair. In this case, the only option open to Hollis is to pay off Garde and get someone in with proven ability to get shite players promoted.
I don't see this as a limitation to our ambition, more one of pragmatic realism in the short term, which would in reality not waste money that could then be spending on rebuilding at a more appropriate time.
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I reckon we'll end up with Lennon.
I reckon we won't.
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I reckon we'll end up with Lennon.
Julian?
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I reckon we'll end up with Lennon.
I reckon we won't.
Imagine.
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I'm no fan of Pearson but if we were ruling violent psychopaths out of the running how come Keane got a gig here? Pearson may be a bit unbalanced at times but he's not in the same ballpark as Roy.
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I'm only making plans for Nigel.
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I wouldn't mind him giving Gabby a shaking.
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I'm only making plans for Nigel.
You only want what's best for him?
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Pearson is a certified lunatic
That is precisely the last sort of personality we want dropping into the monumental clusterfuck that is Aston Villa.
Agreed, he's an asshole, but he'll ruffle a few feathers, and hopefully put the fear of God into some of the shit stains we have masquerading as footballers. I may find him a bit of a shitty human being, but personally I get a buzz from the idea of Pearson grabbing flabby around the throat...
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I'm only making plans for Nigel.
Didn't he apparently have a future in British Steele??
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For me, it only emphasises how poor we are and how far we have fallen when Gestede was one of our "better" players. Quite possibly the worst player I've seen at the Villa along with the laughable Guzan. This against an equally shocking Swansea. It's just awful
I suspect you are not an old git Allan C lol
I watched Andy Lochead from the back of the Witton Lane end Villain from Luton which makes me an old git I think
Good man, so did I
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I'm only making plans for Nigel.
Didn't he apparently have a future in British Steele??
His future is as good as sealed. A bit like Remi's...
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I'm only making plans for Nigella.
Me too.
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The True Geordie pretty much summing up many of our feelings about the Villa right now. In NSFW fashion I might add.
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The True Geordie pretty much summing up many of our feelings about the Villa right now. In NSFW fashion I might add.
I like this guy.
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There is quite a lot of middle ground there you know, Mr Edge? It's not just a straight choice between a nice guy and an unhinged maniac. I'm not even sure why Garde keeps being labelled "nice" anyway - I think you're confusing "nice" with "conducts himself with dignity". Just because it hasn't worked out for a man of his temperament doesn't mean we should go for his polar opposite and appoint a vicious thug who can't control his aggression. You might as well give the job to Rik Waller on the basis that we tried a thin bloke and he was rubbish. There must be some ambitious, talented manager out there who can do the job without resorting to violence.
I didn't call him any of those things. Managers lose it from time to time. Keegan, Pardew, Benitez, Clough, Wenger, Strachan, Di Canio etc etc have all been involved in violent outbursts towards players, refs, each other. Your right there's a lot of middle ground between nice and nuts but my main concern is whether they can do a job for us. IMHO Pearson can in the short term.
There's a big difference between those managers losing their tempers in the heat of the moment and the sort of inherent and consistent air of menace displayed publicly by Pearson. Watch that ostrich interview with that journo last year; would you really like to see a Villa manager aggressively bullying a reporter like that? He looked like a dick. And what makes you think his approach would work with our lot anyway? It did bugger all for Leicester for thirty games last season, they were rock bottom in April, which is presumably why he was so bloody angry in the first place. Everyone seems to have forgotten how abject he was until the run in. Maybe he punched his team into form for the last seven games, who knows? Whatever he did to turn it around, it was a blip in a largely unspectacular managerial career. I don't think a seven game hot streak is nearly enough to make anyone our saviour, let alone one who behaves like Gripper Stebson.
Well to be fair to Pearson he got Leicester promoted from L1 to the Champ (first spell) and then from promoted to the Prem in his second spell. Granted his top flight achievements end at that 7 game run, but as far as getting a team promoted, he'd be as good a bet as anyone we're likely to get and more likely than Garde. I don't like the guy but if we have to have a total fuck trumpet in charge, who will bring some success, then so be it.
I would prefer Rodgers that being said. But he's unlikely to want the job.
Ron Saunders was known for his leniency and laid back approach wasn't he? Fuck the psycho analysis lads. I'm just interested in who would do a job for us in our current predicament. Garde is not made of the right stuff. Pearson is.
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Psycho analysis? I can't see any psycho analysis. To keep it simple, if that's what you mean, Pearson nearly got Leicester relegated last year. He's a crap manager and a thug. Ron Saunders never punched an opponent or bullied journalists. They are not remotely comparable characters.
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For me all the anger frustration that has been vented at Lerner should now be aimed at the players
Let them now exactly how we feel about there pathetic efforts this season!
Surely someone can come up with a song for this bunch of losers
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For me all the anger frustration that has been vented at Lerner should now be aimed at the players
Let them now exactly how we feel about there pathetic efforts this season!
Surely someone can come up with a song for this bunch of losers
How about "yer just a bunch o wankers"
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Psycho analysis? I can't see any psycho analysis. To keep it simple, if that's what you mean, Pearson nearly got Leicester relegated last year. He's a crap manager and a thug. Ron Saunders never punched an opponent or bullied journalists. They are not remotely comparable characters.
He's been called a violent psychopath and a certified lunatic on here.
The point I'm making is I think he could get us promoted where as Remi Garde won't. As I said previously I think the guy is an asshole but it's all about the end result for me. The bloke serving me fish & chips might be a maniac but I'm only interested in whether the fish & chips are nice. That's my bit of psycho analysis.
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Psycho analysis? I can't see any psycho analysis. To keep it simple, if that's what you mean, Pearson nearly got Leicester relegated last year. He's a crap manager and a thug. Ron Saunders never punched an opponent or bullied journalists. They are not remotely comparable characters.
He's been called a violent psychopath and a certified lunatic on here.
The point I'm making is I think he could get us promoted where as Remi Garde won't. As I said previously I think the guy is an asshole but it's all about the end result for me. The bloke serving me fish & chips might be a maniac but I'm only interested in whether the fish & chips are nice. That's my bit of psycho analysis.
Right up to the point where he threatens to ram his salt shaker up your backside.
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Psycho analysis? I can't see any psycho analysis. To keep it simple, if that's what you mean, Pearson nearly got Leicester relegated last year. He's a crap manager and a thug. Ron Saunders never punched an opponent or bullied journalists. They are not remotely comparable characters.
He's been called a violent psychopath and a certified lunatic on here.
The point I'm making is I think he could get us promoted where as Remi Garde won't. As I said previously I think the guy is an asshole but it's all about the end result for me. The bloke serving me fish & chips might be a maniac but I'm only interested in whether the fish & chips are nice. That's my bit of psycho analysis.
Right up to the point where he threatens to ram his salt shaker up your backside.
You must use the same chippy as me ;)