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Title: Premier League to cap cost of tickets for away fans at £30
Post by: PeterWithe on March 09, 2016, 01:06:58 PM
From the Beeb. Good timing eh?

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Premier League clubs have agreed plans to cap away tickets at £30 for the next three seasons.

The cost of watching football has been a hot topic of debate, with supporters at Liverpool organising a high-profile protest over proposed increases in season ticket prices.

Now the top flight's 20 clubs have "unanimously agreed" that more should be done to help away fans.

The £30 away ticket cap will be introduced from next season.

In a statement, the Premier League said away fans were "essential for match atmosphere" and helped make the league unique.

It also recognised that away fans often had travel costs to pay on top of the price of a matchday ticket.
Title: Re: Premier League to cap cost of tickets for away fans at £30
Post by: UK Redsox on March 09, 2016, 01:16:31 PM
So, theoretically next season we could be paying more to watch Villa away at Sheffield Wednesday in the Championship than away fans are paying the same day at Man City, Chelsea etc
Title: Re: Premier League to cap cost of tickets for away fans at £30
Post by: AVH87 on March 09, 2016, 01:17:02 PM
Excellent news. I'm sure there will be some who say it's still too much, but the amount of times I've paid £40-50 for away tickets at Man U, Liverpool, loads of the London clubs (even smaller ones like QPR charging £45 recently), this makes a big difference. Shame we won't be around to reap the benefits.
Title: Re: Premier League to cap cost of tickets for away fans at £30
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on March 09, 2016, 01:30:01 PM
So, theoretically next season we could be paying more to watch Villa away at Sheffield Wednesday in the Championship than away fans are paying the same day at Man City, Chelsea etc

Annoying isn't it. I know Small Heath fans were charged £35 at Sheff Wednesday this season
Title: Re: Premier League to cap cost of tickets for away fans at £30
Post by: Clampy on March 09, 2016, 01:34:14 PM
I think Norwich were still charging £40 when they went down.
Title: Re: Premier League to cap cost of tickets for away fans at £30
Post by: AVH87 on March 09, 2016, 01:37:15 PM
Surely it's now only a matter of time before the Championship follow suit? Ideally with a lower cap of £20.
Title: Re: Premier League to cap cost of tickets for away fans at £30
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on March 09, 2016, 01:43:03 PM
Surely it's now only a matter of time before the Championship follow suit? Ideally with a lower cap of £20.

That would be nice but unlikely. The Championship clubs who've never been in the PL already think it's an uneven playing field due to the parachute payments.  They will want to still be able to charge what they want.
Title: Re: Premier League to cap cost of tickets for away fans at £30
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on March 09, 2016, 01:45:34 PM
A bit bleeding late now, although it is a step in the right direction.
Title: Re: Premier League to cap cost of tickets for away fans at £30
Post by: luke95 on March 09, 2016, 02:14:39 PM
When do they announce that they will only be selling one category of tickets ... Where a child ticket costs the same as an adult.
Title: Re: Premier League to cap cost of tickets for away fans at £30
Post by: SoccerHQ on March 09, 2016, 02:22:07 PM
A good compromise, it was never going as low as 20 quid realistically.

Yeah bad time to go down, I read last week Bolton fans paid 41 quid for Leeds away.

Given we'll take good numbers away to most grounds we will get fleeced down there compared to what premier league will be paying so that will be very odd!

Title: Re: Premier League to cap cost of tickets for away fans at £30
Post by: andyh on March 09, 2016, 02:37:24 PM
its seeing stories like this that make you realise that only the premier league matters.
And, being in the PL is the only place to be.

How many more PL things are going to take place that has no relevance to Aston Villa FC.

 
 
Title: Re: Premier League to cap cost of tickets for away fans at £30
Post by: placeforparks on March 09, 2016, 02:48:26 PM
Surely it's now only a matter of time before the Championship follow suit? Ideally with a lower cap of £20.

no chance. with the disparity in tv money between the two leagues, there is more pressure on tickets prices in the championship. it represents a far larger income stream in percentage terms.

our travelling support will get rinsed at every ground next season.
Title: Re: Premier League to cap cost of tickets for away fans at £30
Post by: cdbearsfan on March 09, 2016, 03:04:14 PM
Good announcement, even if we might not benefit immediately. Well done to Brigada and all the others who put pressure on the clubs.
Title: Re: Premier League to cap cost of tickets for away fans at £30
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on March 09, 2016, 03:14:26 PM
Arsenal will charge away fans £26
Title: Re: Premier League to cap cost of tickets for away fans at £30
Post by: hipkiss92 on March 09, 2016, 03:24:23 PM
The cynic in me is thinking that tickets that might have been £23-£25 this season may suddenly all become £30 next year.

Not that it'll affect us anyhow!
Title: Re: Premier League to cap cost of tickets for away fans at £30
Post by: DeKuip on March 09, 2016, 03:25:17 PM
It's not just away tickets that are too expensive and the cynic in me thinks the shortfall will be made up by an increase in home ticket prices.

Hopefully the Championship will follow suit, although most away games Leeds fans go to are around £30, and they're in the category A band we'll find ourselves in. They were charged £24 at Cardiff last night and £27 for Blackburn this Saturday, but £32 for the Monday night trip to Brighton last week and £36 at Sheff Wed. Elland Road itself though is very expensive and away fans have been moved to the dearest stand the last few seasons.
Title: Re: Premier League to cap cost of tickets for away fans at £30
Post by: SoccerHQ on March 09, 2016, 03:35:33 PM
Arsenal will charge away fans £26

Tbf going there last few years it's only actually been about 30 quid hasn't it? Obviously they fleece other London clubs but it's always been one of the better value aways I think.
Title: Re: Premier League to cap cost of tickets for away fans at £30
Post by: cdbearsfan on March 09, 2016, 03:38:54 PM
Arsenal will charge away fans £26


They're charging their own fans who go to away games £26, by offering a £4 discount per fan. They're not giving seats to away fans at their ground tickets for £26.
Title: Re: Premier League to cap cost of tickets for away fans at £30
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on March 09, 2016, 03:39:49 PM
Arsenal will charge away fans £26

Tbf going there last few years it's only actually been about 30 quid hasn't it? Obviously they fleece other London clubs but it's always been one of the better value aways I think.
They've always been one of the more reasonably priced London away games, relatively speaking
Title: Re: Premier League to cap cost of tickets for away fans at £30
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on March 09, 2016, 03:41:00 PM
Arsenal will charge away fans £26


They're charging their own fans who go to away games £26, by offering a £4 discount per fan. They're not giving seats to away fans at their ground tickets for £26.
Oh, I didn't realise that
Title: Re: Premier League to cap cost of tickets for away fans at £30
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 09, 2016, 03:42:53 PM
Arsenal will charge away fans £26

Tbf going there last few years it's only actually been about 30 quid hasn't it? Obviously they fleece other London clubs but it's always been one of the better value aways I think.

They can afford it with the money they charge their own.
Title: Re: Premier League to cap cost of tickets for away fans at £30
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on March 09, 2016, 03:47:01 PM
Arsenal will charge away fans £26

Tbf going there last few years it's only actually been about 30 quid hasn't it? Obviously they fleece other London clubs but it's always been one of the better value aways I think.

They can afford it with the money they charge their own.

You do get the feeling that home fans might be subsidising this initiative
Title: Re: Premier League to cap cost of tickets for away fans at £30
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 09, 2016, 03:47:41 PM
Arsenal will charge away fans £26

Tbf going there last few years it's only actually been about 30 quid hasn't it? Obviously they fleece other London clubs but it's always been one of the better value aways I think.

They can afford it with the money they charge their own.

You do get the feeling that home fans might be subsidising this initiative

Which is my "cause animosity" worry.
Title: Re: Premier League to cap cost of tickets for away fans at £30
Post by: SoccerHQ on March 09, 2016, 05:43:05 PM
Fans who sit in the same area as away fans will get charged the same price so reductions for them aswell.

For example Villa fans who sit in the Lower and Upper Witton I think get charged 39 and 42 quid which is what we charge away fans so if we by a miracle stayed up that would be a pretty hefty reduction for next season.
Title: Missing the point?
Post by: preston28 on March 09, 2016, 06:25:15 PM
http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~5406439,00.html

Oh dear. We wont be in the premier league next year so why make a statement about something that will not affect us?

{i know they can't be defeatist on the OS!)
Title: Re: Missing the point?
Post by: TopDeck113 on March 09, 2016, 06:30:02 PM
Of course the further, almost inevitable, slap in the face will be next season when Championship clubs rub their hands at the prospect of a bumper pay day and charge well in excess of £30 when the Villa roll into town.
Title: Re: Premier League to cap cost of tickets for away fans at £30
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on March 09, 2016, 06:34:02 PM
I wonder how much our attendance home and away will go down next season? Anyone care to speculate who has relevant comparisons with other clubs in recent times or even us back in the day?
Title: Re: Premier League to cap cost of tickets for away fans at £30
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 09, 2016, 06:51:37 PM
Away support won't change much I reckon, new grounds for many and novelty factor. At home will depend on prices and mainly how we're doing. If we're near the top we'll average low 30s probably.
Title: Re: Premier League to cap cost of tickets for away fans at £30
Post by: dave.woodhall on March 09, 2016, 06:54:03 PM
Given that Premier League grounds rarely have more than 3,000 away seats and the Championship has more empty spaces than you can count, we could end up next season as the best-supported away team in the country.
Title: Re: Premier League to cap cost of tickets for away fans at £30
Post by: PeterWithesShin on March 09, 2016, 06:56:01 PM
Apart from for Leeds. No one has away support as good as Leeds. According to them.
Title: Re: Premier League to cap cost of tickets for away fans at £30
Post by: TopDeck113 on March 09, 2016, 06:59:27 PM
Apart from for Leeds. No one has away support as good as Leeds. According to them.

Or Small Heath. Provided it's at Wembley.
Title: Re: Premier League to cap cost of tickets for away fans at £30
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on March 09, 2016, 06:59:54 PM
Interesting. That could be fun, to see our away support actually rise a bit.
Title: Re: Premier League to cap cost of tickets for away fans at £30
Post by: hipkiss92 on March 09, 2016, 07:03:58 PM
Not a fan of all the backslapping that seems to be going on on most clubs twitter feeds over this. As if the clubs were hamstrung by the PL, rather than if they'd had the appetite they could have done it individually years ago.
Title: Re: Premier League to cap cost of tickets for away fans at £30
Post by: Sexual Ealing on March 09, 2016, 07:20:10 PM
Surely it's now only a matter of time before the Championship follow suit? Ideally with a lower cap of £20.

That would be nice but unlikely. The Championship clubs who've never been in the PL already think it's an uneven playing field due to the parachute payments.  They will want to still be able to charge what they want.

On a slight tangent, I was looking at the Championship table the other day (I can't remember why. Probably acclimatising) and counted only 6 teams in the whole division who've never been in the PL.

I don't know why I'm drawing a distinction between the PL and the top flight. I guess I'm one of those dicks now.
Title: Re: Premier League to cap cost of tickets for away fans at £30
Post by: Ads on March 09, 2016, 07:21:08 PM
Apart from for Leeds. No one has away support as good as Leeds. According to them.

The took 930 to Cardiff last night. Leeds would have taken more*.



(*not sure if anybody else is familiar with this running interweb gag).
Title: Re: Premier League to cap cost of tickets for away fans at £30
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on March 09, 2016, 07:34:07 PM
Typical!

And here's me been telling my smug 'The Mighty Reds YNWA', Bitters and Everton supporting "friends" that I'll be paying less for away games in the Championship next season!

It's a conspiracy isn't it?
It's got to be!
FFS!
Title: Re: Premier League to cap cost of tickets for away fans at £30
Post by: Chris Harte on March 09, 2016, 07:39:15 PM
I don't think this goes far enough.

Maybe they should go for maximum £30 for home tickets, maximum £20 for away tickets. It's not like they won't be able to afford it.
Title: Re: Premier League to cap cost of tickets for away fans at £30
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on March 09, 2016, 07:42:30 PM
One day football will be free...
Title: Re: Premier League to cap cost of tickets for away fans at £30
Post by: MillerBall on March 09, 2016, 09:45:38 PM
Hopefully free of Randy Lerner and his questionable appointments but sadly for us the damage is already done.

The £30 away ticket is good news but when you consider the complete and utter shite we have been watching now for at least four seasons (home and away) it really is unfortunate that our team is so totally unsuitable for the Premiership that we will not have the opportunity to benefit from this reduction.

Lerner, Almstadt, Fox and Riley - the "Four Horseman of the Claret and Blue Apocalypse."
Title: Re: Premier League to cap cost of tickets for away fans at £30
Post by: DeKuip on March 09, 2016, 10:13:45 PM
Given that Premier League grounds rarely have more than 3,000 away seats and the Championship has more empty spaces than you can count, we could end up next season as the best-supported away team in the country.

We're not the only big club going down!
Title: Re: Premier League to cap cost of tickets for away fans at £30
Post by: MillerBall on March 09, 2016, 10:24:03 PM
We will also need to win some matches; if the same sort of performances were to carry on to next season as we have just been witnessing then the novelty of the new ground will soon wear off.
Title: Re: Premier League to cap cost of tickets for away fans at £30
Post by: Witton Warrior on March 10, 2016, 12:14:18 PM
We will also need to win some matches; if the same sort of performances were to carry on to next season as we have just been witnessing then the novelty of the new ground will soon wear off.

We need to win some at home or it will be empty seats M'lord for sure
The Villa away following has never cared about the on-field performance when considering whether to go...
Title: Re: Premier League to cap cost of tickets for away fans at £30
Post by: darren woolley on March 10, 2016, 12:16:16 PM
It's about time long overdue it's a start in the right direction.
Title: Re: Premier League to cap cost of tickets for away fans at £30
Post by: Comrade Blitz on March 10, 2016, 12:46:50 PM
Last time this came up, didn't certain clubs threaten also threaten to reduce the number of away tickets sold? especially those with season-ticket waiting lists? 

Title: Re: Premier League to cap cost of tickets for away fans at £30
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on March 10, 2016, 02:52:34 PM
I didn't even know about the campaign on prices.
I thought Twenty is Plenty was something particular to us and how many points we get this season.
Title: Re: Premier League to cap cost of tickets for away fans at £30
Post by: Chris Harte on March 10, 2016, 09:34:44 PM
I didn't even know about the campaign on prices.
I thought Twenty is Plenty was something particular to us and how many points we get this season.
I see the gallows homour permeates everywhere.
Title: Re: Premier League to cap cost of tickets for away fans at £30
Post by: olaftab on March 10, 2016, 09:39:45 PM
The bastards. They have deliberately done this to hurt us even more.
Title: Re: Premier League to cap cost of tickets for away fans at £30
Post by: Gregorys Boy on March 12, 2016, 10:19:41 AM
So, theoretically next season we could be paying more to watch Villa away at Sheffield Wednesday in the Championship than away fans are paying the same day at Man City, Chelsea etc

Yeah, but be honest wouldn't you rather pay the extra to attend a game at a fine historic Football ground with proper atmosphere than at the mogue which is Stamford Bridge?

This is a move in the right direction, but considering the big flaws in the current top flight product, even 30 pounds seems too much for me in some cases.
Title: Re: Premier League to cap cost of tickets for away fans at £30
Post by: hipkiss92 on March 12, 2016, 10:25:10 AM
Given that Premier League grounds rarely have more than 3,000 away seats and the Championship has more empty spaces than you can count, we could end up next season as the best-supported away team in the country.

We're not the only big club going down!

But we are the biggest
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