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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: ClaretAndBlueBlood on February 22, 2016, 03:30:46 PM
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http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11677/10177430/remi-garde-watches-aston-villa-lose-to-clubs-u21-team
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Aston Villa manager Remi Garde watched his side lose 3-0 to the club's U21 development team in a behind closed doors match at their Bodymoor Heath training ground last Friday.
Villa first-team players Brad Guzan, Alan Hutton, Ciaran Clark, Kieran Richardson, Ashley Westwood, Jordan Veretout, Idrissa Gueye, Leandro Bacuna and Scott Sinclair all featured in the match, which offered little to please Garde.
wow
Does anyone know the starting 11 for the U21s
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It's either a morale boosting win for the Under 21's or proof we can even lose against ourselves.
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It's just funny now.
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Cracked me up
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Is there any chance we could line up a morale boosting friendly against this lot?
(https://static-secure.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/10/28/1414513692203/Englands-blind-football-s-014.jpg)
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Apparently the article says we fielded '11 Premier League stars', which is obviously bullshit.
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rehash of a very old joke.
Remi Garde has set up a friendly match against Iceland to try boost team morale and cheer the fans up...
If we beat them then we go on to play Tesco's and then Sainsbury's.
UTV
The Doc
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Well that didn't work then. Perhaps try the u11's next
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Well that didn't work then. Perhaps try the u11's next
Don't be so sure...
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I was behind Remi Garde going through security at Birmingham airport on Friday lunchtime - had to ask if he has left this watch in onw of the trays you put your hand luggage on - wasn't his - but another french bloke's that he appeared to be travelling with.
Was tempted to ask if he was just off home for the weekend, had been sacked or he had just walked out.
He looked very relaxed for somebody who had just seen his team lose to the kids. Maybe he will play the kids at Stoke.
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On a more serious note, seeing how rubbish we have been this season I do have to wonder why we haven't seen any of the youngsters feature in the first team.
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The sort of result that happens at training grounds on a weekly basis I suspect but another opportunity for the media to poke fun while we stay silent.
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Would love to know players of both teams.
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The majority of the U21's are playing tonight so what the first team played against is anyone's guess.
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Aston Villa manager Remi Garde watched his side lose 3-0 to the club's U21 development team in a behind closed doors match at their Bodymoor Heath training ground last Friday.
Villa first-team players Brad Guzan, Alan Hutton, Ciaran Clark, Kieran Richardson, Ashley Westwood, Jordan Veretout, Idrissa Gueye, Leandro Bacuna and Scott Sinclair all featured in the match, which offered little to please Garde.
wow
Does anyone know the starting 11 for the U21s
Surprised it was only 3
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According to the report on the OS, it wasn't the first team versus the u21's at all. Garde mixed the teams up. Ayew and Bacuna played for the side that won.
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The majority of the U21's are playing tonight so what the first team played against is anyone's guess.
Would only matter if the U21s had to break sweat, which judging by last weekend is unlikely.
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Manager checks out players.
Rémi Garde made the most of the free weekend to take a look at several senior players and young lions in a behind-closed doors match at Bodymoor Heath.
The manager mixed teams on Friday as he observed players coming back from injury, those who haven't featured recently as well as several young lions eager to put on a show.
Garde rested his whole back five - Mark Bunn, Micah Richards, Jores Okore, Joleon Lescott and Aly Cissokho - for the encounter.
Strikers Libor Kozak, Gabby Agbonlahor and Rudy Gestede also took no part in the match.
Keinan Davis and Scott Sinclair led the line for the more senior of the sides, with Leandro Bacuna and Jordan Ayew playing for the more youthful XI.
Garde watched the 90 minutes as he looks ahead now to Saturday's 3pm clash with Stoke City.
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Now I know we're in poor shape at the moment, but what a completely ridiculous non-story.
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Think this belongs in the ''People Lining Up To Take Pot Shots'' thread.
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Think this belongs in the ''People Lining Up To Take Pot Shots'' thread.
Most assuredly. Add Sky Sports to the growing list of sports news outlets best ignored.
John Percy at the Torygraph is about the only football journo I trust anymore. The writer at the Express and Star used to be decent, but their coverage seems to have gone to pot as well.
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Stuart James at the Guardian usually knows his stuff when it comes to us, too.
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Hmmm.
Express and Star (http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/aston-villa-fc/2016/02/22/villa-fans-plan-protest-at-next-three-games/)
Villa fans plan protest at next three games
Aston Villa fans are planning mass walkouts during their next three home games – as it emerged the club’s first team were beaten 3-0 by their own under-21 side.
PUBLISHED: February 22, 2016 5:00 pm LAST UPDATED: February 22, 2016 5:40 pm
First-team regulars were put to the sword by the development team in a behind-closed- doors match at their Bodymoor Heath training ground.
Friday’s latest humiliation was watched by boss Remi Garde and is understood to have included many familiar faces.
The likes of Brad Guzan, Alan Hutton, Ciaran Clark, Kieran Richardson, Ashley Westwood, Jordan Veretout, Idrissa Gueye and Scott Sinclair are all said to have featured.
The news emerged as the newly-formed' Out The Door On 74' group, named after the club’s founding year of 1874.
It's encouraging fans to take part in a peaceful protest against the board and its strategy over the last six years.
Group member Mike McKenna, aged 62, originally from Saltley, in Birmingham, now travels from his home in Bournemouth to attend every home game.
He said: “I have seen the highest of highs and the lowest of the lows over the last 57 years.
"Despite our time in the old third division, in my opinion the club is now at its lowest ebb ever and it may be a long, long time before we come back.
“In many ways the situation reminds me of the era prior to 1968 when the directors of the club were considered out of touch and lacking the ambition.
“However, back then the voice of the supporters was much more important and as we proved change could be affected when a new consortium was installed.”
The walkouts are planned for Villa’s home games against Everton, Spurs and Chelsea.
Mr McKenna, who runs a business in Bournemouth, said after launching the group’s website on Sunday it received 3,000 hits by yesterday morning.
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According to the report on the OS, it wasn't the first team versus the u21's at all. Garde mixed the teams up. Ayew and Bacuna played for the side that won.
Which must have made a nice change for them! ;-)
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Bacuna played for the side that won.
F*ck me, the other 10 must have played well..!
:-)
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It's amazing how this story about the under 21's beating the first team is doing the rounds on social media. Under any other circumstances it wouldn't even register anywhere but the club is now being symptomatic ally picked apart by media outlets with no hint of a strategy to defend it.
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Got to agree kippax - a Blue Nose colleague of mine took delight in texting me this non story - also it was three days ago ffs the Expeess and Star etc can go screw themselves.
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Hmmm.
Express and Star (http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/aston-villa-fc/2016/02/22/villa-fans-plan-protest-at-next-three-games/)
Villa fans plan protest at next three games
Aston Villa fans are planning mass walkouts during their next three home games – as it emerged the club’s first team were beaten 3-0 by their own under-21 side.
PUBLISHED: February 22, 2016 5:00 pm LAST UPDATED: February 22, 2016 5:40 pm
First-team regulars were put to the sword by the development team in a behind-closed- doors match at their Bodymoor Heath training ground.
Friday’s latest humiliation was watched by boss Remi Garde and is understood to have included many familiar faces.
The likes of Brad Guzan, Alan Hutton, Ciaran Clark, Kieran Richardson, Ashley Westwood, Jordan Veretout, Idrissa Gueye and Scott Sinclair are all said to have featured.
The news emerged as the newly-formed' Out The Door On 74' group, named after the club’s founding year of 1874.
It's encouraging fans to take part in a peaceful protest against the board and its strategy over the last six years.
Group member Mike McKenna, aged 62, originally from Saltley, in Birmingham, now travels from his home in Bournemouth to attend every home game.
He said: “I have seen the highest of highs and the lowest of the lows over the last 57 years.
"Despite our time in the old third division, in my opinion the club is now at its lowest ebb ever and it may be a long, long time before we come back.
“In many ways the situation reminds me of the era prior to 1968 when the directors of the club were considered out of touch and lacking the ambition.
“However, back then the voice of the supporters was much more important and as we proved change could be affected when a new consortium was installed.”
The walkouts are planned for Villa’s home games against Everton, Spurs and Chelsea.
Mr McKenna, who runs a business in Bournemouth, said after launching the group’s website on Sunday it received 3,000 hits by yesterday morning.
I really wish some Villa fans would stop and think for once. A few hundred blokes leaving toward the end of a match is no protest, it's what we do every single game. Think, for fuck's sake, think.
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No one will notice because a) people leave anyway 15 mins before the end b) people leave anyway as we tend to be out of the game by then and c) we have lots of empty seats these days anyway.
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No one will notice because a) people leave anyway 15 mins before the end b) people leave anyway as we tend to be out of the game by then and c) we have lots of empty seats these days anyway.
It's why I think it's not the greatest idea to do it at the Everton game. At best I reckon it will be 31/32K so unless half those there leave, which they won't, it will look almost certainly look crap. And if there's a crap response, or it looks crap, it will put others off doing it at the next game. Personally i'd have waited until the Spurs game when there should be a fair few more there.
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Yes I'm not against it in principal but needs to be executed correctly and preferably before we are out of the game already.
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It's amazing how this story about the under 21's beating the first team is doing the rounds on social media. Under any other circumstances it wouldn't even register anywhere but the club is now being symptomatic ally picked apart by media outlets with no hint of a strategy to defend it.
It would be so easy to turn it round as well. "We are pleasantly surprised to see that the media are so interested in our training sessions, which clearly shows the level of support for the club even in such poor times."
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I wonder what the purpose of the game was. It can't have been to refine tactics with the teams mixed and so few first choice players playing, unless it was to work on specific things with specific individuals or groups.
Maybe Garde was running the rule over potential first team candidates from the u21s.
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With us not playing for 2 weeks probably mainly fitness and to look at a few of the kids as well. These kinds of games go on at all clubs.
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On a more serious note, seeing how rubbish we have been this season I do have to wonder why we haven't seen any of the youngsters feature in the first team.
I would guess to ensure that don't ruin any more fledgling careers.
I'm not suggesting that they'd have ever been world beaters, but I do wonder how the careers of Clark, Baker, Bennett, Weimann and maybe Helenius would have panned out if we'd had the luxury of breaking them into a team that wasn't regularly on the receiving end of heavy defeats and always fighting for survival. Or in the case of Helenius actually been able to give him some games.
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I wonder what the purpose of the game was. It can't have been to refine tactics with the teams mixed and so few first choice players playing, unless it was to work on specific things with specific individuals or groups.
Maybe Garde was running the rule over potential first team candidates from the u21s.
Or maybe he was giving some first squad members a chance to prove that's where they actually belong?
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No one will notice because a) people leave anyway 15 mins before the end b) people leave anyway as we tend to be out of the game by then and c) we have lots of empty seats these days anyway.
It's why I think it's not the greatest idea to do it at the Everton game. At best I reckon it will be 31/32K so unless half those there leave, which they won't, it will look almost certainly look crap. And if there's a crap response, or it looks crap, it will put others off doing it at the next game. Personally i'd have waited until the Spurs game when there should be a fair few more there.
Why is Spurs likely to be fuller, cos of more away fans?
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No one will notice because a) people leave anyway 15 mins before the end b) people leave anyway as we tend to be out of the game by then and c) we have lots of empty seats these days anyway.
It's why I think it's not the greatest idea to do it at the Everton game. At best I reckon it will be 31/32K so unless half those there leave, which they won't, it will look almost certainly look crap. And if there's a crap response, or it looks crap, it will put others off doing it at the next game. Personally i'd have waited until the Spurs game when there should be a fair few more there.
Why is Spurs likely to be fuller, cos of more away fans?
It's a Saturday, they are, God forbid, a title-chasing attraction and over the years we tend to have bigger than usual gates against them, for some reason.
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Saturday 3pm vs Tuesday 7.45pm for starters. And as Dave says, for some reason Spurs nearly always attract a bigger gate at VP.
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Proper supporters.
Attractive playing style.
Nice kit.
What is not too like.
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Jason Cundy summed up perfectly with fact that someone's being mischievous by making this news. It's non storty and that when e played as Chelsea youngest they would regularly beat or draw with first team. He made great point that teams are looking at shape , trying out new things and its NOTHING TO DO WOITH THE RESULT. Its in the league that matters. But I can see those media thinking it's a funny story to give out when it's nonsense.And this is said by an ex pro who played rather than media outlets .
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Proper supporters.
Attractive playing style.
Nice kit.
What is not too like.
Everything.
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Proper supporters.
Attractive playing style.
Nice kit.
What is not too like.
Blimey...
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Proper supporters.
Attractive playing style.
Nice kit.
What is not too like.
Blimey...
Has to be sarcasm.
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I'm hoping it isn't but there is every chance the Spurs game will be a Sunday kick off. I don't think the walk out will have anywhere near the effect the Anfield one did, there will be thousands of empty seats anyway so it won't be as noticeable.
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On a more serious note, seeing how rubbish we have been this season I do have to wonder why we haven't seen any of the youngsters feature in the first team.
Not the best environment to start blooding youngsters.
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Aston Villa manager Remi Garde watched his side lose 3-0 to the club's U21 development team in a behind closed doors match at their Bodymoor Heath training ground last Friday.
Villa first-team players Brad Guzan, Alan Hutton, Ciaran Clark, Kieran Richardson, Ashley Westwood, Jordan Veretout, Idrissa Gueye, Leandro Bacuna and Scott Sinclair all featured in the match, which offered little to please Garde.
wow
Does anyone know the starting 11 for the U21s
If the game was behind closed doors, who told Sky
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Ridiculous how much traction this non story of non stories has got. Equally ridiculous is how we sit back and placidly take it.
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Ridiculous how much traction this non story of non stories has got. Equally ridiculous is how we sit back and placidly take it.
We always do, and that's why we end up with sucha bad reputation. Compare and contrast the quarter final with the Stripeys at Reading - we were in a difficult position because our supporters were bang to rights Guv, but the media knew they could say what they liked about us.