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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Lucky Eddie on February 19, 2016, 07:18:44 PM

Title: Question for the Seniors
Post by: Lucky Eddie on February 19, 2016, 07:18:44 PM
Before it got its roof could you see the tilton or The Rotunda from he back of The Holte End?

Cheers
Title: Re: Question for the Seniors
Post by: The Edge on February 19, 2016, 07:41:44 PM
Before it got its roof could you see the tilton or The Rotunda from he back of The Holte End?

Cheers
What a strange question. No idea about the Rotunda but the tilton? You must be joking it was and still is tiny!
Title: Re: Question for the Seniors
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 19, 2016, 07:45:11 PM
Not old enough to know for sure, but as far as I know the roof was put on the Holte in 1962 and the Rotunda, although work started in 1961 wasn't finished until 1965 so i'd have thought it unlikely.
Title: Re: Question for the Seniors
Post by: Stu on February 19, 2016, 08:00:34 PM
Not old enough to know for sure, but as far as I know the roof was put on the Holte in 1962 and the Rotunda, although work started in 1961 wasn't finished until 1965 so i'd have thought it unlikely.

And another dogshitter windup dies.
Title: Re: Question for the Seniors
Post by: cdbearsfan on February 19, 2016, 08:09:03 PM
Lucky Eddie's no Nose. He's been posting here for ages.
Title: Re: Question for the Seniors
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 19, 2016, 08:23:36 PM
Eddie has been on here for a good 10 years so I very much doubt he's one of them.
Title: Re: Question for the Seniors
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 19, 2016, 08:28:31 PM
As a side issue I was once told that Ron Saunders' office when he went over there faced Villa Park.
Title: Re: Question for the Seniors
Post by: Lucky Eddie on February 19, 2016, 08:29:15 PM
I'm not Prepared to grace that scandalous accusation with a response.
Title: Re: Question for the Seniors
Post by: Lucky Eddie on February 19, 2016, 08:30:47 PM
Actually I will, 'how very fucking dare you Sir?'
Title: Re: Question for the Seniors
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on February 19, 2016, 08:36:39 PM
If you stood at the top of The Holte on the Trinity Road side and looked dogshitwards I have calculated a distance of 2.344 miles as the crow flies to the nearest point of the tilton.
Why any self respecting crow would want to fly in that direction once it was perched at Villa Park is another question.
I would like to make two claims:-
1) First person on here to know this distance
2) First use on here of the word `dogshitwards`.

https://www.daftlogic.com/projects-google-maps-distance-calculator.htm
     
Title: Re: Question for the Seniors
Post by: Chris Harte on February 19, 2016, 08:38:27 PM
Wouldn't the slope of Aston Park get in the way of both?
Title: Re: Question for the Seniors
Post by: The Edge on February 19, 2016, 08:59:42 PM
Wouldn't the slope of Aston Park get in the way of both?
Any little terraced house that stands between the Holte and St Andrex would block the view of that mother of all shitholes. (Fortunately)
Title: Re: Question for the Seniors
Post by: conman on February 19, 2016, 09:03:24 PM
I used to see the IMI factory
Title: Re: Question for the Seniors
Post by: The Edge on February 19, 2016, 09:08:22 PM
I used to see the IMI factory
That's very helpful. Thanks for that.
Title: Re: Question for the Seniors
Post by: aj2k77 on February 19, 2016, 09:13:55 PM
Wouldn't the slope of Aston Park get in the way of both?

Aston Park is the other side of the ground to the Sty isn't it?
Title: Re: Question for the Seniors
Post by: Pete on February 19, 2016, 09:15:39 PM
Wouldn't the slope of Aston Park get in the way of both?

Looking at the map, you're right. Thankfully, Small Heath was obscured from view.
Title: Re: Question for the Seniors
Post by: Chris Harte on February 19, 2016, 09:16:09 PM
Wouldn't the slope of Aston Park get in the way of both?

Aston Park is the other side of the ground to the Sty isn't it?
It is if my sense of direction's been frigged for the last 30+ years.
Title: Re: Question for the Seniors
Post by: aj2k77 on February 19, 2016, 09:18:28 PM
Wouldn't the slope of Aston Park get in the way of both?

Aston Park is the other side of the ground to the Sty isn't it?
It is if my sense of direction's been frigged for the last 30+ years.

No wonder I can't find my way home after a few.
Title: Re: Question for the Seniors
Post by: Pete on February 19, 2016, 09:18:38 PM
I used to see the IMI factory

Aye, especially night matches, with the red logo lit up. And, unless my mind's playing tricks, you could see Barr Beacon on the horizon, in the same general direction.
Title: Re: Question for the Seniors
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on February 19, 2016, 09:28:43 PM
A crow flying direct from the Rear Trinity Corner of The Holte dogshitwards would fly just past the North East Corner of Aston Hall passing over the Lichfield - Birmingham railway line approximately 250 yards south of Vauxhall railway station before reaching its destination of the Tilton Road stand.
Assuming of course that it didn't hit Saltley Gas Works on it's journey. Splat ! Serves you right for wanting to go there you stupid fucking bluenose crow ! 

(http://c8.alamy.com/comp/AFWB73/a-view-of-the-famous-saltley-gas-works-with-residential-tower-blocks-AFWB73.jpg)

 
Title: Re: Question for the Seniors
Post by: Chris Harte on February 19, 2016, 09:32:17 PM
Wouldn't the slope of Aston Park get in the way of both?

Aston Park is the other side of the ground to the Sty isn't it?
It is if my sense of direction's been frigged for the last 30+ years.

No wonder I can't find my way home after a few.
Hahaha.
Title: Re: Question for the Seniors
Post by: Villafirst on February 20, 2016, 07:17:54 AM
Before it got its roof could you see the tilton or The Rotunda from he back of The Holte End?

Cheers

Erm, the Holte End got it's roof in 1962 - Rotunda built in 1965. Spot anything  obvious?
Title: Re: Question for the Seniors
Post by: dave shelley on February 20, 2016, 07:54:51 AM
Before it got its roof could you see the tilton or The Rotunda from he back of The Holte End?

Cheers

Erm, the Holte End got it's roof in 1962 - Rotunda built in 1965. Spot anything  obvious?

Got in before me.  Besides, it begs the question, who the hell would want to? The Sty; that is.
Title: Re: Question for the Seniors
Post by: Lucky Eddie on February 20, 2016, 07:58:13 AM
Before it got its roof could you see the tilton or The Rotunda from he back of The Holte End?

Cheers


Erm, the Holte End got it's roof in 1962 - Rotunda built in 1965. Spot anything  obvious?

Errrrrrm - cheers smart arse.




Title: Re: Question for the Seniors
Post by: wittonwarrior on February 20, 2016, 08:08:58 PM
And why exactly would you want to see  that.

The first time I ever went to St Andrews was for the 3-2 defeat towards the end of the first season back in  Div 1 75/76 - what struck  me was the amount of house  bricks outside in the rubble - proper dump then, absolute shit hole now.
Title: Re: Question for the Seniors
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 20, 2016, 08:12:13 PM
Before it got its roof could you see the tilton or The Rotunda from he back of The Holte End?

Cheers

Erm, the Holte End got it's roof in 1962 - Rotunda built in 1965. Spot anything  obvious?

Like the same thing being pointed out yesterday?
Title: Re: Question for the Seniors
Post by: adrenachrome on February 20, 2016, 09:52:55 PM
Before it got its roof could you see the tilton or The Rotunda from he back of The Holte End?

Cheers

Erm, the Holte End got it's roof in 1962 - Rotunda built in 1965. Spot anything  obvious?

Like the same thing being pointed out yesterday?

In fact, I pointed it out in 1960 before it was built after it came to me in a vision. I think I had mumps or measles at the time and I remember the patterns on the wallpaper were moving.

I remember having an interview for a job on a high floor in the Rotunda in 1971. 
Title: Re: Question for the Seniors
Post by: nodge on February 20, 2016, 10:12:56 PM
Dogshitwards is my favourite word of the week.
Title: Re: Question for the Seniors
Post by: dave.woodhall on February 21, 2016, 02:02:55 PM
John 'Oracle' Russell has pointed out that you couldn't see anything from the back of the open Holte (or Aston as it was then) End because the wall was too high. He also told me that "It used to be possible to stand on the zebra crossing at the junction of Warren Road and Hawthorn Road in Kingstanding and see the floodlights at The Hawthorns, Villa Park and St Andrews." 
Title: Re: Question for the Seniors
Post by: Pat McMahon on February 21, 2016, 02:52:18 PM
John 'Oracle' Russell has pointed out that you couldn't see anything from the back of the open Holte (or Aston as it was then) End because the wall was too high. He also told me that "It used to be possible to stand on the zebra crossing at the junction of Warren Road and Hawthorn Road in Kingstanding and see the floodlights at The Hawthorns, Villa Park and St Andrews." 

Now that us a cracking fact
Title: Re: Question for the Seniors
Post by: Pat McMahon on February 21, 2016, 02:53:44 PM
I used to see the IMI factory

Aye, especially night matches, with the red logo lit up. And, unless my mind's playing tricks, you could see Barr Beacon on the horizon, in the same general direction.

You could see the trees at Barr Beacon and Barr Beacon school from the top right of the Holte End.
Title: Re: Question for the Seniors
Post by: Des Little on February 21, 2016, 02:58:50 PM
You could also see a match worth watching from the Holte a few years ago...
Title: Re: Question for the Seniors
Post by: steamer on February 21, 2016, 04:22:29 PM
is IMI still in business ?
Title: Re: Question for the Seniors
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on February 21, 2016, 05:39:43 PM
is IMI still in business ?

Yup, they're now in Birmingham Business Park which is some black hole in the south of the city.
Title: Re: Question for the Seniors
Post by: Lucky Eddie on February 21, 2016, 07:29:19 PM
John 'Oracle' Russell has pointed out that you couldn't see anything from the back of the open Holte (or Aston as it was then) End because the wall was too high. He also told me that "It used to be possible to stand on the zebra crossing at the junction of Warren Road and Hawthorn Road in Kingstanding and see the floodlights at The Hawthorns, Villa Park and St Andrews." 

Now that us a cracking fact


It sure is, thank you.

I lived just off Dyas Hill and you could certainly still see the olbiyun.


Title: Re: Question for the Seniors
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on February 21, 2016, 08:54:02 PM
John 'Oracle' Russell has pointed out that you couldn't see anything from the back of the open Holte (or Aston as it was then) End because the wall was too high.   

They seem to be sat on the top of the wall here.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BENTh3vCMAAlMjp.jpg)
Title: Re: Question for the Seniors
Post by: Steve R on February 22, 2016, 10:46:21 AM
Blackpool vs Spurs 1953 is my guess. Lovely to see the old Holte full.
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