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Title: How it feels to follow Aston Villa
Post by: go on the dog on February 17, 2016, 03:57:40 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/football/copa90/2016/feb/17/aston-villa-relegation-premier-league-fans

Sorry if its already been posted
Title: Re: How it feels to follow Aston Villa
Post by: Legion on February 17, 2016, 04:01:27 PM
YouTube link at top of page is already on another thread but not this article.
Title: Re: How it feels to follow Aston Villa
Post by: Dave on February 17, 2016, 04:04:02 PM
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They are rock bottom, with just two wins from 23 league games.

Not the best start to an article. It's not like we've won so many that the three that we have won are easy to forget.
Title: Re: How it feels to follow Aston Villa
Post by: adrenachrome on February 17, 2016, 04:12:24 PM
Share your feelings with the group. Don't edit yourself. So says the hippy teacher in Beavis and Butthead.

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Alright, then.

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Title: Re: How it feels to follow Aston Villa
Post by: joe_c on February 17, 2016, 04:18:00 PM
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They are rock bottom, with just two wins from 23 league games.

Not the best start to an article. It's not like we've won so many that the three that we have won are easy to forget.

This must have been written a while ago. After 23 games there had only been two wins. We're now at 26 played. He's wrong about O'Neill though, painting him as some sort of bespectacled seer and not the spendthrift, tactical dinosaur who kicked away the foundations as he left the building with the family silver under his arm.
Title: Re: How it feels to follow Aston Villa
Post by: not3bad on February 17, 2016, 04:23:04 PM
"Our history is up there with Chelsea?!"
Title: Re: How it feels to follow Aston Villa
Post by: Diablo on February 17, 2016, 04:39:05 PM
"Our history is up there with Chelsea?!"

FFS
Title: Re: How it feels to follow Aston Villa
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 17, 2016, 04:42:25 PM
I took a dump earlier which is up there with Chelsea's history.
Title: Re: How it feels to follow Aston Villa
Post by: Dave on February 17, 2016, 04:44:18 PM
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They are rock bottom, with just two wins from 23 league games.

Not the best start to an article. It's not like we've won so many that the three that we have won are easy to forget.

This must have been written a while ago. After 23 games there had only been two wins. We're now at 26 played. He's wrong about O'Neill though, painting him as some sort of bespectacled seer and not the spendthrift, tactical dinosaur who kicked away the foundations as he left the building with the family silver under his arm.

Good point.

As for the O'Neill myth, it's one of those things that is going to be repeated so much that it just becomes accepted truth. Like carrots helping you see in the dark.
Title: Re: How it feels to follow Aston Villa
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 17, 2016, 04:46:42 PM
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They are rock bottom, with just two wins from 23 league games.

Not the best start to an article. It's not like we've won so many that the three that we have won are easy to forget.

This must have been written a while ago. After 23 games there had only been two wins. We're now at 26 played. He's wrong about O'Neill though, painting him as some sort of bespectacled seer and not the spendthrift, tactical dinosaur who kicked away the foundations as he left the building with the family silver under his arm.

Good point.

As for the O'Neill myth, it's one of those things that is going to be repeated so much that it just becomes accepted truth. Like carrots helping you see in the dark.

Like Ugo made his debut in that Norwich game.
Title: Re: How it feels to follow Aston Villa
Post by: Dave on February 17, 2016, 04:48:51 PM
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They are rock bottom, with just two wins from 23 league games.

Not the best start to an article. It's not like we've won so many that the three that we have won are easy to forget.

This must have been written a while ago. After 23 games there had only been two wins. We're now at 26 played. He's wrong about O'Neill though, painting him as some sort of bespectacled seer and not the spendthrift, tactical dinosaur who kicked away the foundations as he left the building with the family silver under his arm.

Good point.

As for the O'Neill myth, it's one of those things that is going to be repeated so much that it just becomes accepted truth. Like carrots helping you see in the dark.

Like Ugo made his debut in that Norwich game.

Good one.
Title: Re: How it feels to follow Aston Villa
Post by: Richard E on February 17, 2016, 04:51:21 PM
How it feels to follow Aston Villa?

To have won the lottery of life. The greatest honour and privilege that can be bestowed upon a human being. 
Title: Re: How it feels to follow Aston Villa
Post by: Smirker on February 17, 2016, 04:56:09 PM
"Our history is up there with Chelsea?!"

I thought that as well.
Title: Re: How it feels to follow Aston Villa
Post by: walsall villain on February 17, 2016, 05:00:13 PM
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They are rock bottom, with just two wins from 23 league games.

Not the best start to an article. It's not like we've won so many that the three that we have won are easy to forget.

This must have been written a while ago. After 23 games there had only been two wins. We're now at 26 played. He's wrong about O'Neill though, painting him as some sort of bespectacled seer and not the spendthrift, tactical dinosaur who kicked away the foundations as he left the building with the family silver under his arm.

Good point.

As for the O'Neill myth, it's one of those things that is going to be repeated so much that it just becomes accepted truth. Like carrots helping you see in the dark.

Like Ugo made his debut in that Norwich game.
I used to be convinced that was true, would have put money on it. I was there to 'witness' it, but apparently not. I do remember he had a nightmare that day, or perhaps he didn't?
Title: Re: How it feels to follow Aston Villa
Post by: preston28 on February 17, 2016, 05:07:20 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/football/copa90/2016/feb/17/aston-villa-relegation-premier-league-fans

Sorry if its already been posted

My son is the one with his head in his hands at the Norwich game near the start of the video!!  You can get a glimpse of my greying head of hair behind him!!  And again later when he standing up gesticulating! 
Title: Re: How it feels to follow Aston Villa
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 17, 2016, 05:07:53 PM
Yeah he was crap in it but it was something like his 12th game for us and he had started a few before that. The Norwich game was the end of November 1992, his debut was August '91.
Title: Re: How it feels to follow Aston Villa
Post by: Des Little on February 17, 2016, 05:21:14 PM
Fuck me these are dark days aren't they? 
Title: Re: How it feels to follow Aston Villa
Post by: eamonn on February 17, 2016, 05:33:52 PM
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They are rock bottom, with just two wins from 23 league games.

Not the best start to an article. It's not like we've won so many that the three that we have won are easy to forget.

This must have been written a while ago. After 23 games there had only been two wins. We're now at 26 played. He's wrong about O'Neill though, painting him as some sort of bespectacled seer and not the spendthrift, tactical dinosaur who kicked away the foundations as he left the building with the family silver under his arm.

Good point.


They may be doing the old ''tailoring the stat to show how bad they are'' i.e we won on the first day of the season but in every game since we've only won two..although in that case he could have been even harsher and said two wins from twenty five.
Title: Re: How it feels to follow Aston Villa
Post by: TopDeck113 on February 17, 2016, 05:39:37 PM
I'll tell you how it feels to follow Aston Villa.

This season no other supporters would swap their club for ours.

Over a lifetime all but a handful would. 
Title: Re: How it feels to follow Aston Villa
Post by: Legion on February 17, 2016, 05:41:32 PM
How it feels to follow Aston Villa?

To have won the lottery of life. The greatest honour and privilege that can be bestowed upon a human being. 

Good answer.
Title: Re: How it feels to follow Aston Villa
Post by: dave shelley on February 17, 2016, 05:42:03 PM
A pride that no other football supporter of any other club in the world could even begin to imagine.
Title: Re: How it feels to follow Aston Villa
Post by: Ads on February 17, 2016, 05:43:58 PM
Chin up, we could support Small Heath.
Title: Re: How it feels to follow Aston Villa
Post by: class-of-82 on February 17, 2016, 06:52:05 PM
I'll tell you how good it feels
Fucking brilliant
This club has taken me to Wembley about 11 times has one of the few iconic grounds anywhere with a support to match.
Has taken me to the highest point looking down on all the other clubs in European football
Title: Re: How it feels to follow Aston Villa
Post by: Cliftonville Villain on February 17, 2016, 07:04:51 PM
As the banner says "You don't choose Aston Villa, Aston Villa chooses you" and it's an honour to support the greatest football club in the world. We all get it...in a way that other fans don't. These are dark days at this great grand glorious institution of ours...but whoever said supporting the Villa was dull. Honoured.
Title: Re: How it feels to follow Aston Villa
Post by: exiled on the wirral! on February 17, 2016, 07:14:12 PM
I'm quite looking forward to next season.A new chapter in our rich history, a history some clubs can only dream of.It actually feels great to be a Villa fan and I wouldn't change it for the world.As the kids say, let the haterz keep hating or words to that effect.UTV☺
Title: Re: How it feels to follow Aston Villa
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on February 17, 2016, 07:31:24 PM
It's Unconditional Love.
Title: Re: How it feels to follow Aston Villa
Post by: PeterWithesShin on February 17, 2016, 07:33:18 PM
I wouldn't swap it for anything.
Title: Re: How it feels to follow Aston Villa
Post by: Witton Warrior on February 17, 2016, 07:39:25 PM
The thing that is starting really annoy me now is you would think we were the only team going to be relegated. Have the fans of half a dozen other clubs and the media not realised two others of you are coming down with us you morons! The only solace I draw from this is that all this attention must mean we are/were important...
Title: Re: How it feels to follow Aston Villa
Post by: Steve67 on February 17, 2016, 09:45:50 PM
Not a great article. Opinions are everyone's prerogative I guess.
Title: Re: How it feels to follow Aston Villa
Post by: Holte L2 on February 17, 2016, 09:49:16 PM
Yeah he was crap in it but it was something like his 12th game for us and he had started a few before that. The Norwich game was the end of November 1992, his debut was August '91.

My second home game of having a season ticket. Aged 7. Where does the time go?
Title: Re: How it feels to follow Aston Villa
Post by: joe_c on February 17, 2016, 10:53:49 PM
I'll tell you how it feels to follow Aston Villa.

This season no other supporters would swap their club for ours.

Over a lifetime all but a handful would. 

Perfect. I was thinking on similar lines at work on Monday after being on the receiving end of bantz from Bluenoses and it struck me that I would rather endure a result like Sunday than derive so much pleasure over a team I don't support losing to another team I don't support.
Title: Re: How it feels to follow Aston Villa
Post by: Ad@m on February 18, 2016, 05:55:46 AM
"Our history is up there with Chelsea?!"

I didn't even get that far - I stopped reading when the author started apologising for MON.
Title: Re: How it feels to follow Aston Villa
Post by: alanclare on February 18, 2016, 06:53:34 AM
A beautifully-made video and a thoughtful article.
Title: Re: How it feels to follow Aston Villa
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on February 18, 2016, 07:07:02 AM
"Our history is up there with Chelsea?!"

I didn't even get that far - I stopped reading when the author started apologising for MON.


I didn't even get that far - I stopped reading when the author stated Birmingham City were Premier League regulars.
Title: Re: How it feels to follow Aston Villa
Post by: Oooh_andy on February 18, 2016, 07:53:34 AM
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They are rock bottom, with just two wins from 23 league games.

Not the best start to an article. It's not like we've won so many that the three that we have won are easy to forget.

This must have been written a while ago. After 23 games there had only been two wins. We're now at 26 played. He's wrong about O'Neill though, painting him as some sort of bespectacled seer and not the spendthrift, tactical dinosaur who kicked away the foundations as he left the building with the family silver under his arm.

Good point.

As for the O'Neill myth, it's one of those things that is going to be repeated so much that it just becomes accepted truth. Like carrots helping you see in the dark.

Like Ugo made his debut in that Norwich game.
I thought he did!
Title: Re: How it feels to follow Aston Villa
Post by: PeterWithe on February 18, 2016, 09:19:21 AM
Spurs have consistently failed to hold on to their best players over the past 10 years, they are second, we are bottom.

I've read far better analysis' of the 'death by a thousand cuts' degredation on here.
Title: Re: How it feels to follow Aston Villa
Post by: 144 Hard Boiled Eggs on February 18, 2016, 11:23:20 AM
If my Villa supporting life was a film it would be viewed as too far fetched (there probably would be a film made of those ten years from 1972 - 82 if we were one of the media luvvie clubs). Division 3 Champions to European Champions in ten years with trips to Wembley (and beating Man U in a semi final as a 3rd division club), with trophies in between? Not to mention my memories of the late 60's and relegation (Blues fans taking the piss at junior school in 1969-1970 as we hurtled towards Division 3 then suddenly going quite as we beat them 2-0 at their place, one of our solitary wins during that period, if I remember. I was there too - hilarious).
Wouldn't change a thing - an eventful history with high and low landmarks is something to cherish. So lucky to be born when I was.
Title: Re: How it feels to follow Aston Villa
Post by: rob_bridge on February 18, 2016, 11:41:25 AM
I'll tell you how it feels to follow Aston Villa.

This season no other supporters would swap their club for ours.

Over a lifetime all but a handful would. 

Perfect. I was thinking on similar lines at work on Monday after being on the receiving end of bantz from Bluenoses and it struck me that I would rather endure a result like Sunday than derive so much pleasure over a team I don't support losing to another team I don't support.

All present and correct.
Title: Re: How it feels to follow Aston Villa
Post by: McGraths Dry Cleaning on February 18, 2016, 12:05:58 PM
Like a marriage - good times, not so good times but you always remember the first kiss that turned you inside out
Title: Re: How it feels to follow Aston Villa
Post by: mr underhill on February 18, 2016, 12:22:34 PM
Tangled Up in Blue
Title: Re: How it feels to follow Aston Villa
Post by: adrenachrome on February 18, 2016, 01:46:13 PM
Like a rolling stone
Title: Re: How it feels to follow Aston Villa
Post by: mr underhill on February 18, 2016, 02:05:46 PM
Desolation Row
Title: Re: How it feels to follow Aston Villa
Post by: Tom_Mc9? on February 18, 2016, 02:35:41 PM
It's bloody hard at the moment and being in decline for more than half a decade is trying for anybody.

That being said, some of the best memories stand out however your luck is going. Liverpool at Wembley, Baggies twice in a week, Benteke unstoppable vs. Sunderland and so on. You wouldn't swap it for the world.

The fans have been through so much, deserve so much and have got so little in recent years. You just hope we turn it around and soon.
Title: Re: How it feels to follow Aston Villa
Post by: adrenachrome on February 18, 2016, 02:39:08 PM
If Villa's going down
We'll all go down together
We'll be here when Lerner's gone
Not fickle or fairweather

If Villa's going down
We'll all go down together
We are Villa till we die
And glory hunters never

If Villa's going down
We'll all go down together
We won't need coaches to the Sty
This city's ours forever
Title: Re: How it feels to follow Aston Villa
Post by: greenwichvilla on February 18, 2016, 06:46:53 PM
"Our history is up there with Chelsea?!"

I thought that as well.

The video is made by Copa90, whose audience aren't just hear in the UK. It could well have been that the producers told him to say that to give a comparison in size to overseas viewers who have little concept of what football outside the top 4/5/6/whatever it is these days.

But, yeah. Still bollocks.
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