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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: trevor fisher on February 04, 2016, 06:44:45 PM
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Stan Collymore is reported to be calling for a boycott for the rest of the season - but is this the way forward? Its an awful
season, Garde is the third manager in a year to fail to improve the team. I hope he will stay, but can't see a big improvement coming. So should fans simply stay away?
I can't see it working. Firstly, it is hard to tell who is boycotting and who is simply staying away. More importantly, what is the point? Nothing will change in the next few months. The summer is when changes might happen, so what do fans want to happen and how do they get the board to listen?
Unless the aims are clear and well communicated to the board we are simply moaning. If the fans do have an agenda and the club does not listen, then perhaps we should take action - or not action if it is a boycott. But Stan has to explain what a boycott would achieve by itself. I think fans have to get a programme together over the rest of the season then see what they can get the club to do in the close season
Trevor Fisher
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No boycott. Don't agree with that sort of bollox.
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No.
Legion
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Not in my name.
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Its a no from me Simon...sorry Trevor.
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Boycott of games? Can't see it happening. Boycott the merch, programs, refreshments, take your own food in.
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No, in fact the complete opposite, if you can afford it. Or bear it.
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Better to be there and make some noise rather than at home being an angry martyr. Anyway I though Collymore had thrown his toys out of the pram and wasn't going to talk about us any more?
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No.
Sorry, what was the question?
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I'm not sure what it would achieve really. Better to have a packed Villa Park all singing the same rebellious song, or organised in some way to get our point across. A boycott would just be another tool to hit us with.
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It will happen naturally if it happens at all. You can't force people not to go because some people love the club too much irrespective of how we are doing, who the manager is and certainly whoever is sat on the board.
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I am going to boycott the boycott.
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No.
But take lots of anti-board banners and don't buy food/drink inside the ground. (Unless you've got kids, then that can be almost impossible.)
CT
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Having thought about it a lot the only way I feel I can make my point on how pathetically the club has been run is to no longer go to games. My self and my daughter won't make that much difference though. However I have been going to villa park for nearly 50 years and I still bloody love it ! Shit football,shit team,shit leadership,shit most things but a few drinks in town with my daughter and then the afternoon or evening at villa park I still totally bloody love..And if underhand tossers such as Fox and Hollis think they can stop me enjoying my bloody outings to the villa they can think again the fkin low life's. My stand with them pair now is if they are going to take my money then they can take my abuse.
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The shitter we are the more I think the team need me. I spend nothing in the ground anyway as i'm a cheap git. That said, after the Stoke game i'll probably miss the next 2 or 3 home games any way.
Love
PWS xx
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I am more determined than ever not to turn my back on the club. SVC is media obsessed.
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Not the way forward for The Villa - if you want to be a boycotter then your a City fan.
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Stan should boycott talking shit for the rest of the season.
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I'm not sure what it would achieve really. Better to have a packed Villa Park all singing the same rebellious song, or organised in some way to get our point across. A boycott would just be another tool to hit us with.
I like it. We need a rebellious song to get behind and show the world "WE are Aston Villa"
whether we back the current bunch of error prone planks or not WE are the Villa. The hordes of supporters who follow the mighty Villa in the footsteps of our ancestors. The current owners and players will eventually swan off into the distance. We will still be here followed by our descendants. So my answer is NO to a boycott of our beloved, historic football institution.
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No boycott. Besides the Villa caught me out by having my season card money off me last summer. Sneeky, eh?
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I haven't been for years, been busy breeding, so my boycott would hardly be noticed.
All the best
Me and the family.
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Stan should boycott talking shit for the rest of the season.
That has to go down as "thought of the day"
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No doubt Stan will continue his own boycott of never being seen at VP. Unless paid to be there.
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Well comrades, I'll be boycotting the beach until Spring as a show of solidarity. In these dreadful times, such sacrifices just have to be made. Up The Revolution!
Auntie S
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I wonder how much the likes of Stan Collymore believe people will do what they suggest? Not much, I hope.
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We would be dropping down to small heaths level by having a boycott
we have more dignity than that and I agree with previous posters that no matter how we are playing and how shit we are I sill love going to vp for every game.
This club has given me the greatest times of my life and just because we have had a few barren years Svc thinks I should boycott it
No fucking way
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It may make them more carefully consider next seasons ticket prices however. Footballs too expensive for me at the mo and I refuse to give my cash to lerner. Lets face it we're the least entertaining club in the football league andfor most of the season the players weren't putting enough effort in so staying away is a logical choice for many, including myself
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Stan Collymore doesnt speak for me.
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Stan Collymore doesnt speak for me.
Me neither, but he appears to have convinced the country that he is some kind of Villa superfan. There was a link to a thread on Man City's Bluemoon forum after our game last week and several posts carried the same theme: we'd have liked Villa to stay up if it wasn't for that c**t Collymore. (I know he was winding them up last week btw).
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Boycott Collymore I reckon...
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Stan should boycott talking shit for the rest of the season.
That will require an amputation of that flappy bit just behind the teeth.
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Moaning, dour Man Ure supporting Yorkshire twat...Boycott's not for me either.
Little, D
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Well we have sold out a 2900 allocation against Stoke 3 weeks before the game, which suggests that not many people are taking much notice of Uncle Stanley..
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I'm pretty certain that when our revolution happens, Collymore won't be our Guevara.
It'll probably be televised though, and he'll be doing the shit commentary.
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I have a good deal of sympathy for Collymore and his personal demons, it's not easy to live with either as the person suffering or live with the person suffering when the Black Dog comes calling.
That said, either he can't help spouting bollocks, regardless of his mental state, or someone close to him needs to keep him away from a microphone/keyboard when he's living with an episode, to protect himself from himself. He makes himself an easy target which just makes everything else worse.
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15 000 or so took the boycott on board last saturday.
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15 000 or so took the boycott on board last saturday.
Exactly. Our attendances are in decline. I'm sure that's a boycott isn't it?
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I will not be boycotting VP.
Already not buying a programme, food or merchandise. I'm not even wearing the 'Lerner regime' badge.
I don't agree with Stan but I do admire his passion and respect his point of view.
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We're English, we can't do much as a collective whether its balloons,protests, boycotts. When we're told to do a protest its "not British" If you you get told to protest in Italy or Turkey you bloody well do it or they'll thrown your Gran, tied to a Vespa off the top tier of the main stand.
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I'm not sure what it would achieve really. Better to have a packed Villa Park all singing the same rebellious song, or organised in some way to get our point across. A boycott would just be another tool to hit us with.
I like it. We need a rebellious song to get behind and show the world "WE are Aston Villa"
whether we back the current bunch of error prone planks or not WE are the Villa. The hordes of supporters who follow the mighty Villa in the footsteps of our ancestors. The current owners and players will eventually swan off into the distance. We will still be here followed by our descendants. So my answer is NO to a boycott of our beloved, historic football institution.
I'm not one for self glorification, but that's exactly right in my opinion - especially now the custodianship of the club is utterly removed from what Villa represent; it's actually us the fans who represent Villa. We're the link between what we were and now. I think we should keep turning up. If the atmosphere is nasty for the board, so be it. You reap what you sow. We're one of England's great clubs lets carry that with us.
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Why should they stop me going to villa park? See you Saturday.
And Stan, shut up...
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I'm not sure what it would achieve really. Better to have a packed Villa Park all singing the same rebellious song, or organised in some way to get our point across. A boycott would just be another tool to hit us with.
I like it. We need a rebellious song to get behind and show the world "WE are Aston Villa"
whether we back the current bunch of error prone planks or not WE are the Villa. The hordes of supporters who follow the mighty Villa in the footsteps of our ancestors. The current owners and players will eventually swan off into the distance. We will still be here followed by our descendants. So my answer is NO to a boycott of our beloved, historic football institution.
I'm not one for self glorification, but that's exactly right in my opinion - especially now the custodianship of the club is utterly removed from what Villa represent; it's actually us the fans who represent Villa. We're the link between what we were and now. I think we should keep turning up. If the atmosphere is nasty for the board, so be it. You reap what you sow. We're one of England's great clubs lets carry that with us.
Agree!The rest of the season should be spent supporting Remi and the team and "encouraging " Randy to lower his price.
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Why should they stop me going to villa park? See you Saturday.
And Stan, shut up...
Yep, despite how bad we have been for the past few seasons, I still enjoy going to Villa Park on matchdays. No way I'm giving that up.
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While I can physically stay away my ST means I will be counted as attending
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Boycott of games? Can't see it happening. Boycott the merch, programs, refreshments, take your own food in.
Take down the system, one cheese and pickle sandwich at a time.
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Boycott of games? Can't see it happening. Boycott the merch, programs, refreshments, take your own food in.
Take down the system, one cheese and pickle sandwich at a time.
The baguette not the bullet.
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I assume if his employer requests him to attend a Villa game in the course of his work this season, he will refuse ?
Assuming his employer insisted, he would either resign or he could be dismissed ?
I would love love to find out how serious he is.
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Boycott of games? Can't see it happening. Boycott the merch, programs, refreshments, take your own food in.
Take down the system, one cheese and pickle sandwich at a time.
I don't like cheese and pickle, can I boycott the balti pies instead ?
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I wouldn't support a boycott on the basis that I couldn't ask others to do what I'm not prepared to do myself.
However. I did think that the shockingly low gate againat Man City was a more powerful message to the Board than anything else the fan base has managed.
I'll leave it there.
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An empty ground would send a message. But then again, so would burning the ground down.
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The thing is with Stan, where was he last season when we were going 10 hours without a goal? I don't remember him kicking up too much of a stink then. Where was he when we were going 10 games without a win? Where was he when the media were defending Mcleish and using his nose link as a stick to bash us?
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The thing is with Stan, where was he last season when we were going 10 hours without a goal? I don't remember him kicking up too much of a stink then. Where was he when we were going 10 games without a win? Where was he when the media were defending Mcleish and using his nose link as a stick to bash us?
Perhaps he was taken in by the PR like a lot of other Villa fans were during the same period? Never the less he now realises where the problem lies, as like the rest of us.
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The thing is with Stan, where was he last season when we were going 10 hours without a goal? I don't remember him kicking up too much of a stink then. Where was he when we were going 10 games without a win? Where was he when the media were defending Mcleish and using his nose link as a stick to bash us?
Perhaps he was taken in by the PR like a lot of other Villa fans were during the same period? Never the less he now realises where the problem lies, as like the rest of us.
Falling for PR is one thing. Hoping for the best because they're your team is one thing. The Mcleish bashing we got, another excuse to roll out the fickle comments to tar us with is another and that wanker barely uttered a peep, if he had his finger on the pulse at the Villa he'd know that, but he doesn't. I doubt he takes much in living in the Collymore bubble in his own head.
The mans a knob and the only boycott is the one Stan's currently got with his brain.
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I'm rarely there these days with life getting in the way but I don't think a boycott would achieve anything positive. Aside from stopping doing something you enjoy, whether for the football or the social, a club with dwindling attendances and rock bottom match day income will look like a club on a downhill spiral of decline and an unattractive proposition to either players or potential buyers.
Seems like cutting your nose off to spite your face.
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Interestingly one of the push reasons for me not retaining my season ticket in the late 1990's was the abject performances of SVC and subsequent leeching of money from the club, regardless of said performances. This whilst professing an undying love for the club.
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This boycott Stan wants. If he's due to be reporting from Villa Park will he take part, and therefore not get paid?
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He is advocating a boycott now, not because of our dire situation (which has been lurking for a while) - but because he has personally been "rejected" by not accepting his expertise.
His ego fuels this
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This boycott Stan wants. If he's due to be reporting from Villa Park will he take part, and therefore not get paid?
If he turns up to do work at any other Villa game this season he is just a hypocrite.
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Like I said a few pages back, if he was any kind of fan he'd be urging fans to get down there and get behind the team.
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So if the general feeling is that Collymore is wrong and that we shouldn't boycotts games, what is a positive way to really make a stance against the board?
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The fans are a complete irrelavance to the club. If the club is not bothered whether or not they stay why do you think they will care whether the fans turn up or not.
A mate of mine was attending a corporate do at Villa Park at the time fans were protesting about the appointment of McLeish and actually heard someone in upper managment say that they didn't care whether the fans liked it as it was nothing to do with them and it was going to happen whether or not the fans liked it.
You get the impression that for whatever reason those in charge want the club to go down.
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On the basis of some statements made I'm personally boycotting shirt sales.
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I'm not sure what it would achieve really. Better to have a packed Villa Park all singing the same rebellious song, or organised in some way to get our point across. A boycott would just be another tool to hit us with.
I like it. We need a rebellious song to get behind and show the world "WE are Aston Villa"
whether we back the current bunch of error prone planks or not WE are the Villa. The hordes of supporters who follow the mighty Villa in the footsteps of our ancestors. The current owners and players will eventually swan off into the distance. We will still be here followed by our descendants. So my answer is NO to a boycott of our beloved, historic football institution.
I'm not one for self glorification, but that's exactly right in my opinion - especially now the custodianship of the club is utterly removed from what Villa represent; it's actually us the fans who represent Villa. We're the link between what we were and now. I think we should keep turning up. If the atmosphere is nasty for the board, so be it. You reap what you sow. We're one of England's great clubs lets carry that with us.
Yes we owe it to the millions who have passed through the hallowed gates with hope in heart for their heroes in claret & blue.
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I've more or less stopped going.Two games this season my lowest ever. It just grinds you down. There are lots if other things I can do with my time and money which are currently far more enjoyable.
I suspect there are many like me.
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I wish Stan had been that interested in improving the club when he was a player and had the opportunity to do something about it.
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Collymore is a narcissistic mouthpiece. Boycott? You and your freeloading ilk can do one mate. Not a chance.
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The Villa are as much of a family to me as my family. I'm not blood related but my DNA by choice is Aston Villa, therefore, I support them as much now as at any time they were at their best. So no boycott, just support for for as long as I can, regardless.
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I don't agree with the boycott but I think ppl are being a bit hard on Stan. At least he speaks for the Villa in a sea of biased journo's who support Man U, Liverpool Arsenal, and Chelsea.
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Spot on, Bren.
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The Villa are as much of a family to me as my family. I'm not blood related but my DNA by choice is Aston Villa, therefore, I support them as much now as at any time they were at their best. So no boycott, just support for for as long as I can, regardless.
Exactly.
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The Villa are as much of a family to me as my family. I'm not blood related but my DNA by choice is Aston Villa, therefore, I support them as much now as at any time they were at their best. So no boycott, just support for for as long as I can, regardless.
Round of applause for you Bren.
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As an aside, that attitude (as admirable as it is) is the reason Liverpool have just announced a £77 ticket. The money men should've been kept in check in the form of boycotts at strategic moments for years. Instead the trough is now so long and wide it's not going to be reserved. It is the rain or shine, I'll be there attitude which has been exploited, so boycotts should never be ruled out entirely (although not over this).
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I asked my 12 year old nephew who only became a regular attendee in the last 3 seasons, poor lad, if he was coming Saturday? His answer was "yes ...why did you ask?" Proud of him as his school is full of Brummie reds.
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Good lad. My Grandson Freddy and his best friend Kai still absolutely love coming down to watch us. McGrath only knows why.
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Collymore has his moments where he makes sense but his inability to deal with people who disagree with his view means he's an idiot in my eyes.
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Can't the moderators delete the Collymore debates other than his time at the Villa. If I wanted to read about a Wolves Supporter I would go on a Wolves forum.
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Can't the moderators delete the Collymore debates other than his time at the Villa. If I wanted to read about a Wolves Supporter I would go on a Wolves forum.
Nonsense. Why would anyone lie about what club they support. He's a Villa fan and that's that.
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Can't the moderators delete the Collymore debates other than his time at the Villa. If I wanted to read about a Wolves Supporter I would go on a Wolves forum.
Nonsense. Why would anyone lie about what club they support. He's a Villa fan and that's that.
If he's a Villa fan then why did he put in his book Birmingham is full of rag supporters and not Villa?
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Can't the moderators delete the Collymore debates other than his time at the Villa. If I wanted to read about a Wolves Supporter I would go on a Wolves forum.
Nonsense. Why would anyone lie about what club they support. He's a Villa fan and that's that.
If he's a Villa fan then why did he put in his book Birmingham is full of rag supporters and not Villa?
I really don't know, but why would anyone go through life saying he's a fan of one club when in reality he's a secret fan of another?
It's just nonsense. He's a Villa fan.
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Can't the moderators delete the Collymore debates other than his time at the Villa. If I wanted to read about a Wolves Supporter I would go on a Wolves forum.
Nonsense. Why would anyone lie about what club they support. He's a Villa fan and that's that.
If he's a Villa fan then why did he put in his book Birmingham is full of rag supporters and not Villa?
I really don't know, but why would anyone go through life saying he's a fan of one club when in reality he's a secret fan of another?
It's just nonsense. He's a Villa fan.
No idea, Collymore makes little sense at the best of times to me.
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Can't the moderators delete the Collymore debates other than his time at the Villa. If I wanted to read about a Wolves Supporter I would go on a Wolves forum.
Nonsense. Why would anyone lie about what club they support. He's a Villa fan and that's that.
If he's a Villa fan then why did he put in his book Birmingham is full of rag supporters and not Villa?
I really don't know, but why would anyone go through life saying he's a fan of one club when in reality he's a secret fan of another?
It's just nonsense. He's a Villa fan.
No idea, Collymore makes little sense at the best of times to me.
He is without doubt a Villa fan. He is not from Birmingham though so he wouldn't understand the demographics. Brum is approx 50%villa 45% small heath and 5%. Ollbeyun IMHO
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He is without doubt a Villa fan. He is not from Birmingham though so he wouldn't understand the demographics. Brum is approx 50%villa 45% small heath and 5%. Ollbeyun IMHO
Well that's put me in my place. Sorry for not knowing as much about Villa supporters as you do.
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The Villa are as much of a family to me as my family. I'm not blood related but my DNA by choice is Aston Villa, therefore, I support them as much now as at any time they were at their best. So no boycott, just support for for as long as I can, regardless.
Agreed
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45% sha? That should be in the Amusing Internet Things thread.
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45% sha? That should be in the Amusing Internet Things thread.
Yeah, I have worked all over Birmingham (housing) and that is a wild guess massively off the mark.
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Can't the moderators delete the Collymore debates other than his time at the Villa. If I wanted to read about a Wolves Supporter I would go on a Wolves forum.
Nonsense. Why would anyone lie about what club they support. He's a Villa fan and that's that.
If he's a Villa fan then why did he put in his book Birmingham is full of rag supporters and not Villa?
I really don't know, but why would anyone go through life saying he's a fan of one club when in reality he's a secret fan of another?
It's just nonsense. He's a Villa fan.
No idea, Collymore makes little sense at the best of times to me.
He is without doubt a Villa fan. He is not from Birmingham though so he wouldn't understand the demographics. Brum is approx 50%villa 45% small heath and 5%. Ollbeyun IMHO
Rubbish - Brum is 50% Villa. 30% Small Heath, 5% Albion and 15% assorted Glory Hunters . I exclude transient student types but those that stay add to the Glory Hunters pool
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He is without doubt a Villa fan. He is not from Birmingham though so he wouldn't understand the demographics. Brum is approx 50%villa 45% small heath and 5%. Ollbeyun IMHO
Well that's put me in my place. Sorry for not knowing as much about Villa supporters as you do.
My reply was to aj2k77. He quoted Collymores book which said Birmingham is full of rag supporters. I offered my own opinion. It's not a fact as I don't know everyone in Birmingham. That's why I said IMHO. I forgot to factor in the glory hunting
hordes.
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45% sha? That should be in the Amusing Internet Things thread.
Yeah, I have worked all over Birmingham (housing) and that is a wild guess massively off the mark.
Of course it's a wild guess!! Unless you have the difinitive figures were all guessing.
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He is without doubt a Villa fan. He is not from Birmingham though so he wouldn't understand the demographics. Brum is approx 50%villa 45% small heath and 5%. Ollbeyun IMHO
Well that's put me in my place. Sorry for not knowing as much about Villa supporters as you do.
My reply was to aj2k77. He quoted Collymores book which said Birmingham is full of rag supporters. I offered my own opinion. It's not a fact as I don't know everyone in Birmingham. That's why I said IMHO. I forgot to factor in the glory hunting
hordes.
You said that because he wasn't from Birmingham he wouldn't understand the demographics of support in the city.
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He is without doubt a Villa fan. He is not from Birmingham though so he wouldn't understand the demographics. Brum is approx 50%villa 45% small heath and 5%. Ollbeyun IMHO
Well that's put me in my place. Sorry for not knowing as much about Villa supporters as you do.
My reply was to aj2k77. He quoted Collymores book which said Birmingham is full of rag supporters. I offered my own opinion. It's not a fact as I don't know everyone in Birmingham. That's why I said IMHO. I forgot to factor in the glory hunting
hordes.
You said that because he wasn't from Birmingham he wouldn't understand the demographics of support in the city.
Well not living or being raised in the city he wouldn't would he? I'd have thought that was obvious. He said in his book that Birmingham "was full of rags" and not Villa fans. Do you think he's right then?
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He is without doubt a Villa fan. He is not from Birmingham though so he wouldn't understand the demographics. Brum is approx 50%villa 45% small heath and 5%. Ollbeyun IMHO
Well that's put me in my place. Sorry for not knowing as much about Villa supporters as you do.
My reply was to aj2k77. He quoted Collymores book which said Birmingham is full of rag supporters. I offered my own opinion. It's not a fact as I don't know everyone in Birmingham. That's why I said IMHO. I forgot to factor in the glory hunting
hordes.
You said that because he wasn't from Birmingham he wouldn't understand the demographics of support in the city.
Well not living or being raised in the city he wouldn't would he? I'd have thought that was obvious. He said in his book that Birmingham "was full of rags" and not Villa fans. Do you think he's right then?
I think he's wrong because he's wrong, not because of where he was born and raised. Now, let me get this straight. You think it's "obvious" that you can only know about where Villa fans come from if you're from Birmingham?
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Can't the moderators delete the Collymore debates other than his time at the Villa. If I wanted to read about a Wolves Supporter I would go on a Wolves forum.
Nonsense. Why would anyone lie about what club they support. He's a Villa fan and that's that.
If he's a Villa fan then why did he put in his book Birmingham is full of rag supporters and not Villa?
I really don't know, but why would anyone go through life saying he's a fan of one club when in reality he's a secret fan of another?
It's just nonsense. He's a Villa fan.
No idea, Collymore makes little sense at the best of times to me.
He is without doubt a Villa fan. He is not from Birmingham though so he wouldn't understand the demographics. Brum is approx 50%villa 45% small heath and 5%. Ollbeyun IMHO
Rubbish - Brum is 50% Villa. 30% Small Heath, 5% Albion and 15% assorted Glory Hunters . I exclude transient student types but those that stay add to the Glory Hunters pool
Thanks for putting me right with the difinitive figures. Mine was just a guess.
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He is without doubt a Villa fan. He is not from Birmingham though so he wouldn't understand the demographics. Brum is approx 50%villa 45% small heath and 5%. Ollbeyun IMHO
Well that's put me in my place. Sorry for not knowing as much about Villa supporters as you do.
My reply was to aj2k77. He quoted Collymores book which said Birmingham is full of rag supporters. I offered my own opinion. It's not a fact as I don't know everyone in Birmingham. That's why I said IMHO. I forgot to factor in the glory hunting
hordes.
You said that because he wasn't from Birmingham he wouldn't understand the demographics of support in the city.
Well not living or being raised in the city he wouldn't would he? I'd have thought that was obvious. He said in his book that Birmingham "was full of rags" and not Villa fans. Do you think he's right then?
I think he's wrong because he's wrong, not because of where he was born and raised. Now, let me get this straight. You think it's "obvious" that you can only know about where Villa fans come from if you're from Birmingham?
Well I didn't say that did I? I'd say if you live in a city you would have more idea about it than someone who doesn't. That's obvious to me. Why are you taking my reply to someone else so personal?
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Well I didn't say that did I? I'd say if you live in a city you would have more idea about it than someone who doesn't. That's obvious to me. Why are you taking my reply to someone else so personal?
You said exactly that and just did again. I'm taking it personal, as you put it, because I want to.
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Well I didn't say that did I? I'd say if you live in a city you would have more idea about it than someone who doesn't. That's obvious to me. Why are you taking my reply to someone else so personal?
You said exactly that and just did again. I'm taking it personal, as you put it, because I want to.
I did not say you only know where Villa fans are from if your from Birmingham.
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Well I didn't say that did I? I'd say if you live in a city you would have more idea about it than someone who doesn't. That's obvious to me. Why are you taking my reply to someone else so personal?
You said exactly that and just did again. I'm taking it personal, as you put it, because I want to.
I did not say you only know where Villa fans are from if your from Birmingham.
The bickering-is it really needed? There are too many instances of this type of pettiness on here.
It's tiresome
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Obviously it should be a question on the next Census.
Which football club do you support ?
Jedi Knight.
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Obviously it should be a question on the next Census.
Which football club do you support ?
Jedi Knight.
There's probably more Josies Giants fans in Birmingham than rags.
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Obviously it should be a question on the next Census.
Which football club do you support ?
Jedi Knight.
There's probably more Josies Giants fans in Birmingham than rags.
lol
they couldnt even find sherlock street even though they 'run the town'
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He is without doubt a Villa fan. He is not from Birmingham though so he wouldn't understand the demographics. Brum is approx 50%villa 45% small heath and 5%. Ollbeyun IMHO
Well that's put me in my place. Sorry for not knowing as much about Villa supporters as you do.
My reply was to aj2k77. He quoted Collymores book which said Birmingham is full of rag supporters. I offered my own opinion. It's not a fact as I don't know everyone in Birmingham. That's why I said IMHO. I forgot to factor in the glory hunting
hordes.
You said that because he wasn't from Birmingham he wouldn't understand the demographics of support in the city.
Well not living or being raised in the city he wouldn't would he? I'd have thought that was obvious. He said in his book that Birmingham "was full of rags" and not Villa fans. Do you think he's right then?
I think he's wrong because he's wrong, not because of where he was born and raised. Now, let me get this straight. You think it's "obvious" that you can only know about where Villa fans come from if you're from Birmingham?
Well I didn't say that did I? I'd say if you live in a city you would have more idea about it than someone who doesn't. That's obvious to me. Why are you taking my reply to someone else so personal?
Seems pretty sensible to me.
I'd say I had a better idea of supporter ratios in the city since moving here.
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Collymore boycotted Villa Park when he was under contract and being paid a fortune .....
Sorry but this is a second rate broadcaster who the major channels won't touch
He has to come out with the rubbish he does just to try and keep his profile
However basically he is simply a thug and has always blamed everybody bar himself for his many failings
I recall reading his life story where nothing was his fault and then read Gazza's who stated the mistakes were of his own making
In all honesty i doubt if Collymore is actually a Villa fan but it suits the profile to state he is
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I believe in boycott's for certain reasons such as when Man City fans were changed £75 or whatever it was at Arsenal a few seasons back, but no not just for this. I mean if a fan doesn't want to go or can't go for money reason or family reasons then that's fine, but I don't think you should boycott just because of awful form.
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I believe in boycott's for certain reasons such as when Man City fans were changed £75 or whatever it was at Arsenal a few seasons back, but no not just for this. I mean if a fan doesn't want to go or can't go for money reason or family reasons then that's fine, but I don't think you should boycott just because of awful form.
It's not boycotting for awful form, it's boycotting to let the current custodian and the current Boardroom know that their incompetence will not be tolerated.
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I believe in boycott's for certain reasons such as when Man City fans were changed £75 or whatever it was at Arsenal a few seasons back, but no not just for this. I mean if a fan doesn't want to go or can't go for money reason or family reasons then that's fine, but I don't think you should boycott just because of awful form.
No I understand that, but it won't make a difference. Not this season at least, if fans did it next then it might make a difference, but I'm still against it in pricipal.
It's not boycotting for awful form, it's boycotting to let the current custodian and the current Boardroom know that their incompetence will not be tolerated.
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I'll be there today and next season, I'll still support the team as always,but I will no longer be buying anything from the club, programme, food, shirts or drinks.
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Liverpool 2 Sunderland 0 and Liverpool fans boycott _ for what I don't know
Final score 2-2
Aston Villa 2 Norwich 0 Villa fans back their team with great support
Final score 2-0 although we rode our luck
Collymore played for both teams
Whose fans is he most proud of?
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Liverpool 2 Sunderland 0 and Liverpool fans boycott _ for what I don't know
Final score 2-2
Aston Villa 2 Norwich 0 Villa fans back their team with great support
Final score 2-0 although we rode our luck
Collymore played for both teams
Whose fans is he most proud of?
I really don't care
Real Ovideo maybe.
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It wasn't a boycott. They walked out on 77 mins in protest at the £77 tickets next season. I don't blame them.
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It wasn't a boycott. They walked out on 77 mins in protest at the £77 tickets next season. I don't blame them.
Liverpool owners have now responded to the 77 minute walkout. Instead of £77, they are making them £95.
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I.t wasn't a boycott. They walked out on 77 mins in protest at the £77 tickets next season. I don't blame them.
fair play to them I say. Its about time fans made a stand against the rip off merchants. Shearer was right on MOTD that no club should increase prices when clubs are benefiting from tv money increases
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It wasn't a boycott. They walked out on 77 mins in protest at the £77 tickets next season. I don't blame them.
Me neither. And I don't think it made a jot of difference to the score. Fair play to the Liverpool fans, who showed that a sizeable chunk of their crowd could organise themselves sufficiently to make a point.
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The 1996 FA Cup Semi at Old Trafford a lot of Liverpool fans stayed away because there were big price increases. I guess from a Villa point of view if you still had any money left from the LC Final trip the week before you were not going to miss what was our first FA Cup semi since 1960 whatever the ticket price. There certainly was a boycott that day because the crowd was just under 40,000.
This is getting off the subject of the thread which is supposed to be Mr Collymore. So here is a picture of our Stan that day in 1996.
I am certainly not saying he should not be celebrating as he is when the team he plays for has just scored. Maybe what it does say that is that no professional player should ever try to purport to be a fan in the same way that any of us are.
(http://i3.liverpoolecho.co.uk/incoming/article9070328.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/PA-168311.jpg)
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Liverpool 2 Sunderland 0 and Liverpool fans boycott _ for what I don't know
Final score 2-2
Aston Villa 2 Norwich 0 Villa fans back their team with great support
Final score 2-0 although we rode our luck
Collymore played for both teams
Whose fans is he most proud of?
I really don't care
Real Ovideo maybe.
bradford
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As someone said to me earlier today - if he was really so keen to get rid of the board why doesn't he do as others have done and put up his own money to hire somewhere for a protest meeting?
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The 1996 FA Cup Semi at Old Trafford a lot of Liverpool fans stayed away because there were big price increases. I guess from a Villa point of view if you still had any money left from the LC Final trip the week before you were not going to miss what was our first FA Cup semi since 1960 whatever the ticket price. There certainly was a boycott that day because the crowd was just under 40,000.
This is getting off the subject of the thread which is supposed to be Mr Collymore. So here is a picture of our Stan that day in 1996.
I am certainly not saying he should not be celebrating as he is when the team he plays for has just scored. Maybe what it does say that is that no professional player should ever try to purport to be a fan in the same way that any of us are.
(http://i3.liverpoolecho.co.uk/incoming/article9070328.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/PA-168311.jpg)
Sorry, but I don't buy that at all. He ( SC) was - and indeed is - a Villa supporter from his early childhood, so in my book it makes him as much of a fan as anyone else - regardless of whom he plied his trade for professionally. I realise the guy isn't especially liked on here, but I think it's about time folk cut him a bit of slack.
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As someone said to me earlier today - if he was really so keen to get rid of the board why doesn't he do as others have done and put up his own money to hire somewhere for a protest meeting?
Digbeth Civic Hall was about £100 for the evening in 1968.
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I'll cut Stan some slack when he stops being a tit.
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Liverpool 2 Sunderland 0 and Liverpool fans boycott _ for what I don't know
Final score 2-2
Aston Villa 2 Norwich 0 Villa fans back their team with great support
Final score 2-0 although we rode our luck
Collymore played for both teams
Whose fans is he most proud of?
I give up. Who?
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He should support Hednesford Town or Stafford Rangers really. Bloody glory hunter.
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He should support Hednesford Town or Stafford Rangers really. Bloody glory hunter.
If only Mr L, if only... :(
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why would he outwardly and very publicly claim to be the supporter of a side if he isn't? And especially one like ours where we are hardly glory hunting material. I don't like how he's gone about airing his recent feelings as I don't think they help, but that doesn't mean he doesn't support us. We all convey our support in different ways, and Stan would fit in fine on here because he's like anyone else with an opinion. His advantage is that he has a much better vehicle to voice his opinion that the rest of us, and with that comes a responsibility in how he uses it. Something I think he often forgets.
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Has any one of us ever witnessed Stan to pay an entrance fee to watch a Villa match?
I've known him since the mid eighties and I don't know one single person that's ever seen him follow us.
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why would he outwardly and very publicly claim to be the supporter of a side if he isn't? And especially one like ours where we are hardly glory hunting material. I don't like how he's gone about airing his recent feelings as I don't think they help, but that doesn't mean he doesn't support us. We all convey our support in different ways, and Stan would fit in fine on here because he's like anyone else with an opinion. His advantage is that he has a much better vehicle to voice his opinion that the rest of us, and with that comes a responsibility in how he uses it. Something I think he often forgets.
Him being Villa has been doing the rounds since the mid-90s. We were possibly viewed as on a par with the likes of Arsenal back then, while the likes of Chelsea and Man City simply weren't even in the frame. At the same time he was regularly being captured on film watching Wolves, though.
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He's a chancer. Contemptuous at best...
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Has any one of us ever witnessed Stan to pay an entrance fee to watch a Villa match?
I've known him since the mid eighties and I don't know one single person that's ever seen him follow us.
You knew him when he was a young lad?
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but I think it's about time folk cut him a bit of slack.
While he is happy to use his media profile to spout stuff I disagree with on the club I support I fully intend to continue to slag him off.
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A boycott of anything would be a blunt instrument that will harm as much as safeguard. Why not show the executive what we think of people who fuck the club over by taking someone from recent history who has done exactly that and nail them to the wall next to the directors' entrance.
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Has any one of us ever witnessed Stan to pay an entrance fee to watch a Villa match?
I've known him since the mid eighties and I don't know one single person that's ever seen him follow us.
You knew him when he was a young lad?
Mid teens.
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What were 'e like ?
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I'd describe him as a confident lad.
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A boycott of anything would be a blunt instrument that will harm as much as safeguard. Why not show the executive what we think of people who fuck the club over by taking someone from recent history who has done exactly that and nail them to the wall next to the directors' entrance.
Can I nominate Steve Hodge.
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from the responses, I guess Stan has not got the support he needs for a boycott - but it is a small sample. Maybe he can tell us what plan B might be. As there are personal memories of Stan the Young Man on this thread, I can put myself on the line. Though I have never met Stan, When I moved to Stafford I met a women who washed his kit when he played for Stafford Rangers. Do I qualify for an award?
Trevor Fisher.