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Title: Eric Black - New assistant manager
Post by: berneboy on January 23, 2016, 10:29:01 PM
Telegraph seems clear:
Black, the former Motherwell and Coventry manager, is expected to join up with the Premier League's bottom club next week

Re‎mi Garde has moved to appoint Rotherham coach Eric Black as his new assistant manager at Aston Villa.

Black, the former Motherwell and Coventry manager, is expected to join up with the Premier League's bottom club next week after being headhunted by Garde.

The 52-year-old has established an impressive reputation as a coach, working under Steve Bruce and Gary McAllister, and will boost Garde's backroom team at Villa Park.
Title: Re: Eric Black - New assistant manager
Post by: Steve67 on January 23, 2016, 10:35:15 PM
I hope Black is swiftly followed by replacements for Kozak, Westwood and Bacuna.
Title: Black to be appointed new Asst Mgr
Post by: godzvilla on January 23, 2016, 10:38:20 PM

According to the Telegraph,  Eric Black will be  appointed Asst Mgr til the end of the season. He has a good reputation and the bonus ( as far as ´ l'équipe des Villans´ are concerned )  of 5 years experience of playing in France...........Godzvilla!

Re‎mi Garde appoints Eric Black as his new assistant manager at Aston Villa.
Black, the former Motherwell and Coventry manager, is expected to join up with the Premier League's bottom club next week.
Re‎mi Garde has moved to appoint Eric Black as his new assistant manager at Aston Villa.
Black, the former Motherwell and Coventry manager, is expected to join up with the Premier League's bottom club next week after being headhunted by Garde.
The 52-year-old has established an impressive reputation as a coach, working under Steve Bruce and Gary McAllister, and will boost Garde's backroom team at Villa Park.
Black's experience with Metz as a player for five years has proven pivotal for Garde, who has many French speaking players in his squad.
Garde has been working without a recognised No 2 since his appointment in November and Villa's board had attempted to persuade him to take on Steve Round, David Moyes's former assistant.
But Black is Garde's own choice and is set to agree a deal which will run initially until the end of the season.
Title: Re: Eric Black - New assistant manager
Post by: Diablo on January 24, 2016, 04:47:16 AM

According to the Telegraph,  Eric Black will be  appointed Asst Mgr til the end of the season. He has a good reputation and the bonus ( as far as ´ l'équipe des Villans´ are concerned )  of 5 years experience of playing in France...........Godzvilla!

Re‎mi Garde appoints Eric Black as his new assistant manager at Aston Villa.
Black, the former Motherwell and Coventry manager, is expected to join up with the Premier League's bottom club next week.
Re‎mi Garde has moved to appoint Eric Black as his new assistant manager at Aston Villa.
Black, the former Motherwell and Coventry manager, is expected to join up with the Premier League's bottom club next week after being headhunted by Garde.
The 52-year-old has established an impressive reputation as a coach, working under Steve Bruce and Gary McAllister, and will boost Garde's backroom team at Villa Park.
Black's experience with Metz as a player for five years has proven pivotal for Garde, who has many French speaking players in his squad.
Garde has been working without a recognised No 2 since his appointment in November and Villa's board had attempted to persuade him to take on Steve Round, David Moyes's former assistant.
But Black is Garde's own choice and is set to agree a deal which will run initially until the end of the season.

Previously worked with Dr. Jospeh Venglos.
Title: Re: Eric Black - New assistant manager
Post by: Mister E on January 24, 2016, 08:41:31 AM
From the little I know, this doesn't seem massively impressive; but I remain open-minded.
Title: Re: Eric Black - New assistant manager
Post by: curlytailavfc on January 24, 2016, 08:49:03 AM
ready for the Black days ahead
Title: Re: Eric Black - New assistant manager
Post by: Des Little on January 24, 2016, 08:54:47 AM
A positive is that he will have an extremely good knowledge of the Championship and the players within it, so should the worst happen and we drop his experience will be a useful asset.
Title: Re: Eric Black - New assistant manager
Post by: frank black on January 24, 2016, 08:56:47 AM
I seem to remember Black bouncing around on the blues bench, with Mr potato head when the played us.

Let's hope he can coach getting people into the box.
Title: Re: Eric Black - New assistant manager
Post by: supertom on January 24, 2016, 01:04:55 PM
Well he's experienced and he's not a complete joke of an appointment like Keane or Wilkins. Remi needs help and we need a proper staff line up. Good luck to him.
Title: Re: Eric Black - New assistant manager
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on January 24, 2016, 01:58:46 PM
Hasn't it almost become a case of just getting someone in the door.
Title: Re: Eric Black - New assistant manager
Post by: Pete3206 on January 24, 2016, 02:02:30 PM
Well he's experienced and he's not a complete joke of an appointment like Keane or Wilkins. Remi needs help and we need a proper staff line up. Good luck to him.

Well said
Title: Re: Eric Black - New assistant manager
Post by: CT Villan on January 24, 2016, 04:08:47 PM
He worked under old red nose at Aberdeen during their most successful spell - hopefully he's brought his hairdryer with him. He was also a decent striker so perhaps he can teach Kozak and Gestede a thing or two. We'll see.
Title: Re: Eric Black - New assistant manager
Post by: Lobsterboy on January 25, 2016, 03:15:41 PM
He's only 52 so might be worth registering him as a striker and playing instead of Gestede?
Title: Re: Eric Black - New assistant manager
Post by: Nelson Lodge on January 25, 2016, 04:36:48 PM
Just had a look at the Rotherham United web site.
As at 1hour 20 minutes ago site states that Assistant Manager Eric Black has left the club by mutual agreement. Started in the summer as first team coach and was promoted to AM in October.

No comment as to where he is going but that he had received an offer elsewhere.
Title: Re: Eric Black - New assistant manager
Post by: Diablo on January 25, 2016, 06:41:06 PM
Just had a look at the Rotherham United web site.
As at 1hour 20 minutes ago site states that Assistant Manager Eric Black has left the club by mutual agreement. Started in the summer as first team coach and was promoted to AM in October.

No comment as to where he is going but that he had received an offer elsewhere.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/35399523
Title: Re: Eric Black - New assistant manager
Post by: Dante Lavelli on January 25, 2016, 07:06:26 PM
Ticks a lot of boxes, including having knowledge of the Championship so could be a useful fella next season too (do we know how long the contact is?).
Title: Re: Eric Black - New assistant manager
Post by: Small Rodent on January 26, 2016, 10:26:38 AM
A big hero to a lot of Aberdeen fans.
Title: Re: Eric Black - New assistant manager
Post by: AVH87 on January 26, 2016, 10:54:53 AM
Ticks a lot of boxes, including having knowledge of the Championship so could be a useful fella next season too (do we know how long the contact is?).

Can't remember where, but I read end of the season initially.
Title: Re: Eric Black - New assistant manager
Post by: Risso on January 26, 2016, 11:10:58 AM
That's a bit odd.
Title: Re: Eric Black - New assistant manager
Post by: AVH87 on January 26, 2016, 11:15:07 AM
According to this article http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/aston-villa-fc/2016/01/25/remi-garde-set-to-put-his-money-on-eric-black/ it's 'expected to be confirmed until the end of the season'. Not sure why we aren't planning long-term, it's not like this guy thinks the Championship is beneath him, he's just come from Rotherham.
Title: Re: Eric Black - New assistant manager
Post by: joe_c on January 26, 2016, 11:19:28 AM
According to this article http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/aston-villa-fc/2016/01/25/remi-garde-set-to-put-his-money-on-eric-black/ it's 'expected to be confirmed until the end of the season'. Not sure why we aren't planning long-term, it's not like this guy thinks the Championship is beneath him, he's just come from Rotherham.

My guess is that Garde still has his first choices in mind and that Black would be a stop gap until the summer when they may be more readily available.
Title: Re: Eric Black - New assistant manager
Post by: AVH87 on January 26, 2016, 11:31:33 AM
According to this article http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/aston-villa-fc/2016/01/25/remi-garde-set-to-put-his-money-on-eric-black/ it's 'expected to be confirmed until the end of the season'. Not sure why we aren't planning long-term, it's not like this guy thinks the Championship is beneath him, he's just come from Rotherham.

My guess is that Garde still has his first choices in mind and that Black would be a stop gap until the summer when they may be more readily available.

Seems reasonable, I'd be happy with that. Maybe Black would drop down to Coach in the summer if that happened.
Title: Re: Eric Black - New assistant manager
Post by: ozzjim on January 26, 2016, 12:53:22 PM
Surely it is a short term contract to see if they like working together, and if they do, they will simply extend the arrangement.
Title: Re: Eric Black - New assistant manager
Post by: joe_c on January 26, 2016, 01:15:51 PM
Surely it is a short term contract to see if they like working together, and if they do, they will simply extend the arrangement.

Yes, that seems plausible too. Perhaps more so than my thoughts as at least we've been able to get him in with a minimum of fuss.
Title: Re: Eric Black - New assistant manager
Post by: OCD on January 26, 2016, 02:36:36 PM
He's been named as a first team coach so Garde must be confident of getting his first choices at the end of the season.
Title: Re: Eric Black - New assistant manager
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on January 26, 2016, 02:50:23 PM
He's been named as a first team coach so Garde must be confident of getting his first choices at the end of the season.
Agreed. Remi's mates at Lyon are still his favoured choice for assistant I would have thought, so Black as coach makes sense.
Title: Re: Eric Black - New assistant manager
Post by: alftitimus on January 28, 2016, 12:56:35 AM
Remi's mates at Lyon are still his favoured choice for assistant I would have thought, so Black as coach makes sense.

 ;D True ~ imo

Eric has been 'caretaker' at many more clubs than he has been the manager. However, he has only lasted a match or three at all of them. But he has followed some dross....Evans Keane (Blackburn), even Bruce.
...............

When Wilkins was our appointed asst Manager, I went apoleptic on here ~~~ got the usual denigration ~  ;D ~ however I feel that I was justified by results.
I was also anti-Tactics when he was the new Messiah last season.

I have no bad word against Remi ~~~ and likewise against Eric, who, in my mind is a careful, practical and workmanlike pro. He helped our neighours get promoted don't forget  ;D

Eric's contract is not a carrot,~~~ if we know/suspect, that approaches will be made for Remi's  ex-colleagues, then I am pretty sure Eric knows that as well. Hence the contract.

If Remi can't get in his original choices as backroom, Eric has the opportunity to seal a longer term contract.
He is bi-lingual and can bridge any "mis-understanding" with our non-French speakers.
Like he can explain to Gaby and Jack, a less hurtfull translation of 'merde'

Eric is a pro, been there done it etc....so even if Remi gets his original choices, for the backroom~~ I'd be happy to see Eric Black stay on.

Nothing wrong with him.

.
Title: Re: Eric Black - New assistant manager
Post by: brian green on January 28, 2016, 05:09:14 AM
In a sincere spirit of friendship alftitimus can I suggest that you are lining yourself up for a good shoeing on here if you continue to make your otherwise interesting posts look like the Magna Carta.
Title: Re: Eric Black - New assistant manager
Post by: chocolate garde on January 28, 2016, 08:27:29 AM
I might be wrong on this but this smells of a replacement for garde
Title: Re: Eric Black - New assistant manager
Post by: LeeB on January 28, 2016, 08:29:46 AM
I might be wrong on this but this smells of a replacement for garde

I think you are, and your username has a whiff of its own.
Title: Re: Eric Black - New assistant manager
Post by: Villa in Denmark on January 28, 2016, 11:31:20 AM
I might be wrong on this but this smells of a replacement for garde

I think you are, and your username has a whiff of its own.
Well the colour is probably right for the smell.
Title: Re: Eric Black - New assistant manager
Post by: Villa in Denmark on January 28, 2016, 11:32:30 AM
In a sincere spirit of friendship alftitimus can I suggest that you are lining yourself up for a good shoeing on here if you continue to make your otherwise interesting posts look like the Magna Carta.

I finally get all the ~~~~~.  It's making waves.
Title: Re: Eric Black - New assistant manager
Post by: Boz on January 28, 2016, 12:34:11 PM
I might be wrong on this but this smells of a replacement for garde

Not "might be wrong", totally wrong, and you are probably a seriously challenged bluenose
Title: Re: Eric Black - New assistant manager
Post by: The Edge on January 28, 2016, 12:39:39 PM
I  can smell "Obsession"
Title: Re: Eric Black - New assistant manager
Post by: in exile on January 28, 2016, 01:18:37 PM
Very good!
 ;D
Title: Re: Eric Black - New assistant manager
Post by: rob_bridge on January 28, 2016, 01:26:19 PM
I  can smell "Obsession"

Either that or Eau De Pissas that's what most of them smell of in their flea riven cesspit of St Dumpdews.
Title: Re: Eric Black - New assistant manager
Post by: john e on January 28, 2016, 04:53:03 PM
A big hero to a lot of Aberdeen fans.

And we have a great track record with folks from there

Billy McNeill, Alex Mcliesh
Title: Re: Eric Black - New assistant manager
Post by: supertom on January 28, 2016, 05:07:07 PM
Black's first order of business was to deal with Emmanuel Adebeyor who had been spotted going club to club last week, looking for a new home.

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Title: Re: Eric Black - New assistant manager
Post by: FarEastVilla on January 28, 2016, 05:17:31 PM
... yes totally agree with Alftitimus , all in all a very sensible appointment by Remi and Eric seems to have a wealth of knowledge in football.


Remi's mates at Lyon are still his favoured choice for assistant I would have thought, so Black as coach makes sense.

 ;D True ~ imo

Eric has been 'caretaker' at many more clubs than he has been the manager. However, he has only lasted a match or three at all of them. But he has followed some dross....Evans Keane (Blackburn), even Bruce.
...............

When Wilkins was our appointed asst Manager, I went apoleptic on here ~~~ got the usual denigration ~  ;D ~ however I feel that I was justified by results.
I was also anti-Tactics when he was the new Messiah last season.

I have no bad word against Remi ~~~ and likewise against Eric, who, in my mind is a careful, practical and workmanlike pro. He helped our neighours get promoted don't forget  ;D

Eric's contract is not a carrot,~~~ if we know/suspect, that approaches will be made for Remi's  ex-colleagues, then I am pretty sure Eric knows that as well. Hence the contract.

If Remi can't get in his original choices as backroom, Eric has the opportunity to seal a longer term contract.
He is bi-lingual and can bridge any "mis-understanding" with our non-French speakers.
Like he can explain to Gaby and Jack, a less hurtfull translation of 'merde'

Eric is a pro, been there done it etc....so even if Remi gets his original choices, for the backroom~~ I'd be happy to see Eric Black stay on.

Nothing wrong with him.

.
Title: Re: Eric Black - New assistant manager
Post by: b23 on January 28, 2016, 08:45:19 PM
 
A big hero to a lot of Aberdeen fans.

And we have a great track record with folks from there

Billy McNeill, Alex Mcliesh

Neale Cooper too.  :(
Title: Re: Eric Black - New assistant manager
Post by: The Left Side on January 28, 2016, 09:00:15 PM
SAF loves Villa Park too, we were very hospitable to him and his Manure teams over the years.
Title: Re: Eric Black - New assistant manager
Post by: pauliewalnuts on January 28, 2016, 09:04:48 PM
When Wilkins was our appointed asst Manager, I went apoleptic on here ~~~ got the usual denigration ~  ;D ~ however I feel that I was justified by results.

For there to be anything "usual" about the way people react to you on here, you'd have to actually have made far more than the 37 posts you've 'contributed' thus far.

I can honestly say you've caught the attention recently for a small number of things, none of which are the forcefulness of your out-there views.

Said things are:

1. Using smileys.
2. ~~~~~
3. Your quirky posting style which makes people assume you're a nose on a wind up, mostly on the basis that the majority of people here find it hard to even understand what you're saying, let alone debate with you.
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