Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine

Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Legion on January 19, 2016, 09:39:00 PM

Title: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on January 19, 2016, 09:39:00 PM
Fire away.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 19, 2016, 09:40:00 PM
Made bloody hard work of it, but at least another win and several players rested.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: passport1 on January 19, 2016, 09:40:09 PM
I feel giddy
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: Deano's Mullet on January 19, 2016, 09:40:13 PM
Win is a win
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: Bad English on January 19, 2016, 09:41:37 PM
We showed mussel and snatched the win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on January 19, 2016, 09:42:02 PM
Sounded like we were shocking for large parts of both halves.
A fine insurance goal at the death was important, makes the vibe among the players and fans that bit better and something to take into the next game.

West Brom are nothing special, get our best team (whatever that is) out on Saturday and get into them.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: kipeye on January 19, 2016, 09:42:38 PM
We showed mussel and snatched the win.
At least we didn't clam up.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on January 19, 2016, 09:42:55 PM
Huffed and puffed against a league 2 side. We found our level.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: Meanwood Villa on January 19, 2016, 09:43:12 PM
Two goals and a win. Take that.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: Ian. on January 19, 2016, 09:43:28 PM
Well I enjoyed the first half, at home in the warm half heartedly listening to Talk Sport but the match thread on here was very informative.
 
Had to go and pick my daughter up second half and could only get Saunders talking a load of old snatch. He's useless isn't he?

Missed both goals, but overall great result, the cups ours.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: cdward on January 19, 2016, 09:43:54 PM
We showed mussel and snatched the win.
Finally came out of our shell
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: Steve67 on January 19, 2016, 09:44:05 PM
Fuck a duck, we won, scored two, four games unbeaten. Woooooooo.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: clash city rocker on January 19, 2016, 09:44:55 PM
Well that was a thriller !! Suppose we won ...
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on January 19, 2016, 09:45:01 PM
Good win, and we got to practise our booing for the next round against Fabian Smellph.

Unbeaten at Fortress Villa Park all year.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on January 19, 2016, 09:45:07 PM
Not sure many teams would fear our starting X1. That's how bad this squad is.
At least we go into the Olyon game on the back of a win.
Be great to beat them.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: oldtimernow on January 19, 2016, 09:45:29 PM
nothing warms me cockles better than 2 goal difference
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: saunders_heroes on January 19, 2016, 09:46:31 PM
Dodgy performance but a win is a win. In the next round and that's all that matters.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: Tayls_7 on January 19, 2016, 09:48:21 PM
We showed mussel and snatched the win.
Finally came out of our shell

Until the second went in I thought we were just gonna limpet across the line.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on January 19, 2016, 09:49:19 PM
Gana made the difference

Westwood is not the man

And Grealish.. No idea what's happened


Richards look one of the better players

But it's still shockingly poor
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: auntiesledd on January 19, 2016, 09:49:47 PM
I'm just happy we managed to winkle out a win in the end.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: hipkiss92 on January 19, 2016, 09:50:06 PM
Lyden played out of position by the sounds of things? Don't understand that
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: Keeno on January 19, 2016, 09:50:17 PM
UNBEATEN IN FOUR.


Say it slowly.
Say it out loud.


UNBEATEN IN FOUR.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: Bad English on January 19, 2016, 09:50:22 PM
We showed mussel and snatched the win.
Finally came out of our shell

Until the second went in I thought we were just gonna limpet across the line.


The world is our oyster.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: clash city rocker on January 19, 2016, 09:52:00 PM
Thought lydon did ok tonight...better than Hutton.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: Goldie.7 on January 19, 2016, 09:52:02 PM
Two goals and a clean sheet, job done. Bring on Citeh!!

(http://reaction.club/r/hqg-387.gif)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: oldtimernow on January 19, 2016, 09:53:25 PM
unbeaten in four.....we are like Botticelli's venus rising out of our shell
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: QuintonVilla on January 19, 2016, 09:54:10 PM
"We are unbeatable, we are unbeatable..."

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: Steve kirk on January 19, 2016, 09:54:49 PM
And now your gonna believe us were gonna win the cup.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: auntiesledd on January 19, 2016, 09:54:57 PM
Lyden played out of position by the sounds of things? Don't understand that

He'll just have to put that down to rotten luck.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: Dante Lavelli on January 19, 2016, 09:58:06 PM
Where did he play (and usually play for that matter).
Was Richards right back?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: Dave on January 19, 2016, 09:58:07 PM
We showed mussel and snatched the win.
Finally came out of our shell

Until the second went in I thought we were just gonna limpet across the line.


The world is our oyster.

If we get through the next round, Man City would be quite an impressive scallop.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: CT Villan on January 19, 2016, 09:58:53 PM
The second goal shows what we can do when we apply ourselves...there's going to be a few pundits and journalists a little upset that we've won.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 19, 2016, 09:59:50 PM
In the cup winning is the most important thing obviously but apart from the last 20ish minutes that was very very poor against a division 4 side. Grealish was woeful. Lyden looked decent.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: auntiesledd on January 19, 2016, 10:00:09 PM
We showed mussel and snatched the win.
Finally came out of our shell

Until the second went in I thought we were just gonna limpet across the line.


The world is our oyster.

If we get through the next round, Man City would be quite an impressive scallop.

Damn you Dave! You beat me to it.   :(
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: Ian. on January 19, 2016, 10:00:19 PM
We showed mussel and snatched the win.
Finally came out of our shell

Until the second went in I thought we were just gonna limpet across the line.


The world is our oyster.

If we get through the next round, Man City would be quite an impressive scallop.
I can't sea it myself
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on January 19, 2016, 10:01:58 PM
Sounds like we made hard work of it but we're through and that's the main thing.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: rob_bridge on January 19, 2016, 10:03:38 PM
We showed mussel and snatched the win.
Finally came out of our shell

Until the second went in I thought we were just gonna limpet across the line.


The world is our oyster.

If we get through the next round, Man City would be quite an impressive scallop.
I can't sea it myself

Algae for a win.

(Glaswegian or Ulster accent just about works).
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: maidstonevillain on January 19, 2016, 10:03:51 PM
We showed mussel and snatched the win.
Finally came out of our shell

Until the second went in I thought we were just gonna limpet across the line.


The world is our oyster.

If we get through the next round, Man City would be quite an impressive scallop.
I can't sea it myself

It least we have the advantage of it being at our plaice.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: Edvard Remberg on January 19, 2016, 10:05:49 PM
Oh for Cod's sake stop it!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on January 19, 2016, 10:06:35 PM
Guess Grealish didnt do anything to suggest getting more involved with the first team?

Suspect Garde might send him off on loan

Sanchez injured again
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: ACVilla on January 19, 2016, 10:07:49 PM
Gabby didn't get a look in again.

Definitely something fishy going on there.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: Edvard Remberg on January 19, 2016, 10:09:02 PM
Grealish has behaved like a sulking baby the times he has had a chance after his "telling off".
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: auntiesledd on January 19, 2016, 10:09:46 PM
We showed mussel and snatched the win.
Finally came out of our shell

Until the second went in I thought we were just gonna limpet across the line.


The world is our oyster.

If we get through the next round, Man City would be quite an impressive scallop.
I can't sea it myself

It least we have the advantage of it being at our plaice.

True, but we haven't got a Tope in Hell of winning against that lot.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: auntiesledd on January 19, 2016, 10:10:47 PM
Gabby didn't get a look in again.

Definitely something fishy going on there.

I reckon he's had his chips.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: myf on January 19, 2016, 10:12:40 PM
Whats happened to Traore?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: Steve kirk on January 19, 2016, 10:13:00 PM
Villa being poor in the first half was just a red herring.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: hipkiss92 on January 19, 2016, 10:14:07 PM
Whats happened to Traore?

Broken metatarsal

Only we would get injuries that stopped happening 10 years ago

Someone will probably go down with scurvy next
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: devilla on January 19, 2016, 10:14:15 PM
Two goals and a win. I'm shell-shocked.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: FatSam on January 19, 2016, 10:15:50 PM
Whats happened to Traore?
Eight weeks out with a metatarsal injury last time I heard.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: ACVilla on January 19, 2016, 10:16:13 PM
Gabby didn't get a look in again.

Definitely something fishy going on there.

I reckon he's had his chips.
He's yesterday's news.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: not3bad on January 19, 2016, 10:22:56 PM
And now you've got to believe uuuus!
We're gonna win the cup!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: German James on January 19, 2016, 10:24:28 PM
Gabby didn't get a look in again.

Definitely something fishy going on there.

I reckon he's had his chips.
He's yesterday's newts.

Fixed.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: saunders_heroes on January 19, 2016, 10:24:35 PM
20k is a decent crowd for a midweek FA Cup replay considering our woes.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: aj2k77 on January 19, 2016, 10:25:38 PM
Nice to win, over 20,000 but that sounded completely shit again.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: citizenDJ on January 19, 2016, 10:25:57 PM
Not a great showing but we just about limpet over the line.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on January 19, 2016, 10:26:21 PM
Any idea what day Man. City will be played, I imagine it will be a TV game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: Warren Aspinall on January 19, 2016, 10:27:32 PM
I heard it was a Tench atmosphere
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: mr-villa on January 19, 2016, 10:27:43 PM
cod knows what will happen in the Man City game probably get battered!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: Dave on January 19, 2016, 10:28:03 PM
Any idea what day Man. City will be played, I imagine it will be a TV game.

It's not
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: andyh on January 19, 2016, 10:28:20 PM
I've been down there 3 times this week and not seen us lose.
What's going on??
I demand an explanation.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: peter w on January 19, 2016, 10:29:14 PM
4 games W 2 D 2 L 0 F 5 A 2

Fancy us next week too.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: paul_e on January 19, 2016, 10:29:23 PM
Any idea what day Man. City will be played, I imagine it will be a TV game.

Not on TV, saturday 30th, 3pm kick off.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: QuintonVilla on January 19, 2016, 10:29:27 PM
20k is a decent crowd for a midweek FA Cup replay considering our woes.
Agreed. Funny seeing the Wycombe fans on Twitter saying the ground was half empty, no atmosphere etc, what did they expect? They took 150 to Hartlepool Saturday, 4000 tonight, loyal...
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: saunders_heroes on January 19, 2016, 10:29:45 PM
I've been down there 3 times this week and not seen us lose.
What's going on??
I demand an explanation.



It's a leap year.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: itbrvilla on January 19, 2016, 10:32:27 PM
I've been down there 3 times this week and not seen us lose.
What's going on??
I demand an explanation.



It's a leap year.
4 planets aligning tomorrow morning.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: Bad English on January 19, 2016, 10:33:09 PM
Funny seeing the Wycombe fans on Twitter saying the ground was half empty,

Did they expect us to fillet?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on January 19, 2016, 10:33:57 PM
20k is a decent crowd for a midweek FA Cup replay considering our woes.
Agreed. Funny seeing the Wycombe fans on Twitter saying the ground was half empty, no atmosphere etc, what did they expect? They took 150 to Hartlepool Saturday, 4000 tonight, loyal...

It's a back-handed compliment. They know we're a big club and expected a big crowd son they're a bit disappointed. Nothing wrong with that.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on January 19, 2016, 10:36:58 PM
Wycombe probably earned more tonight than they did for their combined ST sales for the last 2 or 3 years.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: four fornicholl on January 19, 2016, 10:48:41 PM
we NETTED two goals, that's the alLURE of the villa
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: CJ on January 19, 2016, 10:54:36 PM
Well we made very hard work of that. Wycombe worked hard and pressed well but we really should have made a more comfortable job of it. Can't be arsed to give player ratings but one player I'll pick out - Jack Grealish. When Garde came in I said Jack would have to prove his worth rather than get picked on his reputation, but he's completely lost his way. Whether it's Billy Big Bollocks mentality or loss of confidence I don't know, but he needs to get his head down and work - maybe on loan - or he'll just be another in the line of our next big hope playing lower league football.

Poor attendance and atmosphere a bit flat (Wycombe fans made plenty of noise to be fair), but on the plus side I got home quicker than it usually takes me to get from King Edward's to the M6.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: SheffieldVillain on January 19, 2016, 10:56:42 PM
Well we made very hard work of that. Wycombe worked hard and pressed well but we really should have made a more comfortable job of it. Can't be arsed to give player ratings but one player I'll pick out - Jack Grealish. When Garde came in I said Jack would have to prove his worth rather than get picked on his reputation, but he's completely lost his way. Whether it's Billy Big Bollocks mentality or loss of confidence I don't know, but he needs to get his head down and work - maybe on loan - or he'll just be another in the line of our next big hope playing lower league football.

I think I'd send Grealish on loan. Preferably to the biggest shithole in the Championship/Div 1 (bar the Blues, no-one deserves that) so he can see what's going to happen to his career unless he pulls his socks up.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: not3bad on January 19, 2016, 10:58:41 PM
Funny seeing the Wycombe fans on Twitter saying the ground was half empty,

Did they expect us to fillet?


Apparently they did at their plaice.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: django on January 19, 2016, 11:01:30 PM
Funny seeing the Wycombe fans on Twitter saying the ground was half empty,

Did they expect us to fillet?



I sea water you did there.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on January 19, 2016, 11:04:11 PM
I would like to say I love Garde. He can be our manager forever and ever.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on January 19, 2016, 11:05:28 PM
Funny seeing the Wycombe fans on Twitter saying the ground was half empty,

Did they expect us to fillet?


Apparently they did at their plaice.
They were perched quite high up in the North stand.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on January 19, 2016, 11:07:32 PM
Erm, lobsters.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: django on January 19, 2016, 11:21:28 PM
There was a point towards the end of the first half where Ayew won the ball, was tackled, knocked to the ground won it back, was tackled again and then won it back and laid it off. All the while Grealish was stood a foot away uninvolved.

Really strange what's happening with Grealish. Think it's a lack of confidence like most of our players, they just defer to each other rather than taking responsibility. A team with Ayews attitude and we'd be fine.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on January 19, 2016, 11:22:34 PM
The BBC highlights are on the website. Only tiny snag is they've forgotten to include the goals, but you can't have everything.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on January 19, 2016, 11:27:57 PM
I see Mr Garde has been carping on about Grealish during his post match press conference.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on January 19, 2016, 11:33:13 PM
Really, I thought he'd clam up.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: mrfuse on January 19, 2016, 11:37:44 PM
The BBC highlights are on the website. Only tiny snag is they've forgotten to include the goals, but you can't have everything.

Its rather weird you have click the related goals links to see the goals separately from the er.....watch every goals highlights.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: Pat McMahon on January 19, 2016, 11:59:31 PM
I heard bits of the commentary and Saunders was laying into Gestede ( he is good in the air but useless with his back to goal; you should work out what you can and can't do when you're a youngster and he is no good wi the ball at his feet) and Ayew ( giving Lyden no support at all, really wouldn't want to be making a debut behind him).
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: LTA on January 20, 2016, 12:03:07 AM
There was a point towards the end of the first half where Ayew won the ball, was tackled, knocked to the ground won it back, was tackled again and then won it back and laid it off. All the while Grealish was stood a foot away uninvolved.

Really strange what's happening with Grealish. Think it's a lack of confidence like most of our players, they just defer to each other rather than taking responsibility. A team with Ayews attitude and we'd be fine.

We need to be careful with Grealish.  Yes he's having a bad time, but given the number of players we've let go, only to see them shine at other clubs where their managed properly, is that a risk we should take?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: tomd2103 on January 20, 2016, 12:05:12 AM
Job done.  Quite looking forward to the next round and hoping for the Saturday 5.30pm slot.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on January 20, 2016, 12:10:15 AM
Which is the best car park at Wembley?

Anyone know a good place for drinking towards Harrow?

Anyone know when the FA will announce the allocations?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on January 20, 2016, 12:14:15 AM
If you're in the seat behind me at Wembley then you're in the standing section.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on January 20, 2016, 12:17:49 AM
I heard bits of the commentary and Saunders was laying into Gestede ( he is good in the air but useless with his back to goal; you should work out what you can and can't do when you're a youngster and he is no good wi the ball at his feet) and Ayew ( giving Lyden no support at all, really wouldn't want to be making a debut behind him).
Gestede is not very good at highest level  in any aspect of the game.  Apart from that he could be an effective aerial threat but is too immobile and clumsy.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on January 20, 2016, 12:21:22 AM
Which is the best car park at Wembley?

Anyone know a good place for drinking towards Harrow?

Anyone know when the FA will announce the allocations?
I have booked mu hotel. Managed to get a room at the Wembley Hilton for  just £650 per night. Staying Friday and Saturday for celebrations.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: django on January 20, 2016, 12:21:28 AM
There was a point towards the end of the first half where Ayew won the ball, was tackled, knocked to the ground won it back, was tackled again and then won it back and laid it off. All the while Grealish was stood a foot away uninvolved.

Really strange what's happening with Grealish. Think it's a lack of confidence like most of our players, they just defer to each other rather than taking responsibility. A team with Ayews attitude and we'd be fine.

We need to be careful with Grealish.  Yes he's having a bad time, but given the number of players we've let go, only to see them shine at other clubs where their managed properly, is that a risk we should take?

I agree. I've been wanting him more involved lately but tonight's performance showed why he's not been featuring.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: auntiesledd on January 20, 2016, 12:21:37 AM
I see Mr Garde has been carping on about Grealish during his post match press conference.

I'd have thought he'd be a dab-hand at dealing with the media by now, although eel probably be getting a tad tired of all that post-match pollocks.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on January 20, 2016, 12:22:29 AM
Man City fans must have been thinking "no wembley this year" during that titanic sruggle for the 4th round.

Anyhoo, who cares we won woop woop!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on January 20, 2016, 12:27:37 AM
We made bloody hard work of that!
Main bits for me:
Interesting selection, clearly saving a few legs for Saturday, and quite right too.
imho Bunn should have played...he needs games at first team level. Guzan continues to look "nervous" every time he has the ball.
Dreadful first half, booing no shock though I never join in.
Only improved after Gana and Gil came on, the former showing the class that ALL of our players should have been showing from kick off.
Strange picking Lyden then playing him out of position, but I thought he did pretty well.
Gestede was truly awful...suggested to my mate we swap him with the bloke they brought on for the last 15 minutes - he was full of guile, subtle touches and won almost every ball in the air, to effect, not just "knocking it on" to no-one or just falling over, as Rudi does.
Ayew worked hard again but is too often isolated.
Grealish...it hurts me to see him lacking in almost every aspect of his play at the moment. I really hope he can take Garde's advice on board and work at his game so that he can benefit the team - and himself -  much more.
2 goals. Clean sheet. :-)

See you in Smethwick on Satdy.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on January 20, 2016, 12:36:20 AM
At least we didn't lose to minnows!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on January 20, 2016, 12:55:15 AM
What date is the Charity Shield this year?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: joe_c on January 20, 2016, 01:01:09 AM
There was a point towards the end of the first half where Ayew won the ball, was tackled, knocked to the ground won it back, was tackled again and then won it back and laid it off. All the while Grealish was stood a foot away uninvolved.

Really strange what's happening with Grealish. Think it's a lack of confidence like most of our players, they just defer to each other rather than taking responsibility. A team with Ayews attitude and we'd be fine.

We need to be careful with Grealish.  Yes he's having a bad time, but given the number of players we've let go, only to see them shine at other clubs where their managed properly, is that a risk we should take?

Apart from Marc Albrighton (for half a season) I'm struggling to think of any other examples of this phenomenon.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: The Left Side on January 20, 2016, 02:34:41 AM
Gary Cahill for one, maybe Steven Davis but that was all I could think of.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: Dave Cooper please on January 20, 2016, 04:15:04 AM
Troy Deeney?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: Bad English on January 20, 2016, 05:19:59 AM
At least we go into the Olyon game on the back of a win.
Be great to beat them.

Oh to be going into a game with Olympique Lyonnais
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: Bad English on January 20, 2016, 05:23:13 AM
Whats happened to Traore?
I think he he has a problem with something around his sole.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: mr underhill on January 20, 2016, 06:08:37 AM
back in April and out again before May?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: adrenachrome on January 20, 2016, 06:22:51 AM
There is no doubt at all that  a loss would have dealt a severe blow to club morale.

Nonetheless, the  victory affords little in terms of momentum. In fact, it is not so much a kick in the balls as a sharp tap in the balls, which can be worse in freezing temperatures.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: Astral Weeks on January 20, 2016, 06:51:28 AM
We showed mussel and snatched the win.
Finally came out of our shell

Until the second went in I thought we were just gonna limpet across the line.


The world is our oyster.

If we get through the next round, Man City would be quite an impressive scallop.
A win against them would certainly be very whelkome.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: Kevin Dawson on January 20, 2016, 08:14:02 AM
We showed mussel and snatched the win.
Finally came out of our shell

Until the second went in I thought we were just gonna limpet across the line.


The world is our oyster.

If we get through the next round, Man City would be quite an impressive scallop.
A win against them would certainly be very whelkome.

Thought Grealish haddock rap game.....
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: Olof's Beard on January 20, 2016, 09:38:21 AM
Well we made very hard work of that. Wycombe worked hard and pressed well but we really should have made a more comfortable job of it. Can't be arsed to give player ratings but one player I'll pick out - Jack Grealish. When Garde came in I said Jack would have to prove his worth rather than get picked on his reputation, but he's completely lost his way. Whether it's Billy Big Bollocks mentality or loss of confidence I don't know, but he needs to get his head down and work - maybe on loan - or he'll just be another in the line of our next big hope playing lower league football.

I think I'd send Grealish on loan. Preferably to the biggest shithole in the Championship/Div 1 (bar the Blues, no-one deserves that) so he can see what's going to happen to his career unless he pulls his socks up.

I have no problem with how he wants to wear his socks, but I wish he would play a bit better.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: CJ on January 20, 2016, 09:43:16 AM
Something else I noticed last night was attacking towards the Holte in the first half/swapping ends after the toss. We did the same against Palace, and I presumed we changed ends as we'd lost the toss until someone pointed out that Palace kicked off, so we must have won the toss and chosen to change ends. As Wycombe kicked off last night I presume the same happened. Wonder why they've started doing that? do they think they play better attacking the Holte so try to use it as a first half advantage? Whatever the reason - I don't like it
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 20, 2016, 09:46:51 AM
Something else I noticed last night was attacking towards the Holte in the first half/swapping ends after the toss. We did the same against Palace, and I presumed we changed ends as we'd lost the toss until someone pointed out that Palace kicked off, so we must have won the toss and chosen to change ends. As Wycombe kicked off last night I presume the same happened. Wonder why they've started doing that? do they think they play better attacking the Holte so try to use it as a first half advantage? Whatever the reason - I don't like it

Well given we've won both the games in which we've done it, they can keep doing it as far as I'm concerned.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 20, 2016, 09:47:51 AM
Gary Cahill for one, maybe Steven Davis but that was all I could think of.

And he's never played in a team as good as the one he was in for us.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: levico on January 20, 2016, 09:52:09 AM
Grealish was so bad last night he looked like a fan who had won a competition to star for the Villa for 45 minutes. Truly woeful, so easily knocked off the ball.

Lyden was promising though.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on January 20, 2016, 09:59:35 AM
Grealish was a lazy git last night. Compare that performance to the one against Notts County. Like watching two different players.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: passport1 on January 20, 2016, 10:05:09 AM
I suppose Grealish has had tonsillitis which could have had an impact on his energy levels.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: Skerra on January 20, 2016, 10:22:06 AM
Obviously pleased that we won but, my precis of the match: Wycombe: First half: 1 shot on target that Guzan had to make a good save from. Us - 2 shots into the side netting.
Second half - both teams pretty woeful but we managed to get two shots on target and scored from both.
I've never in all the years I've been going to Villa Park ever felt like leaving before the end of the match but, it was really cold and the players were doing absolutely sod all to warm us up that, had it have finished 0-0, after 90 minutes, I was going to leave and just listen to the rest on the radio. Players were booed at half time although I never join in with this.
Can't blame Gestede as he can only do the best he can so, the manager should have a little pity on him and not select him. He would get nowhere near any other premier league team. Grealish - least said the better. Sinclair - please learn Welsh immediately and go to Swansea asap.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on January 20, 2016, 10:50:37 AM
When have we played lower league opposition and come away happy? it's always shite
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: oldhill_avfc on January 20, 2016, 10:50:46 AM
There was a point towards the end of the first half where Ayew won the ball, was tackled, knocked to the ground won it back, was tackled again and then won it back and laid it off. All the while Grealish was stood a foot away uninvolved.

Really strange what's happening with Grealish. Think it's a lack of confidence like most of our players, they just defer to each other rather than taking responsibility. A team with Ayews attitude and we'd be fine.

We need to be careful with Grealish.  Yes he's having a bad time, but given the number of players we've let go, only to see them shine at other clubs where their managed properly, is that a risk we should take?

I think it's a bit unfair to judge Grealish on last nights performance alone.  Yes, he was bundled off the ball a few times and had a couple of poor touches - but everyone around him was woeful too. 

Equally he showed glimpses of what he can do and at these times he looks like a real player.  Yes, he's not developed as we would have expected this season and yes, he needs to sort any shit out - but for me he's a must keep.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: postal on January 20, 2016, 11:03:26 AM
With Grealish, as someone said, he's been ill, so that will effect his energy. But has Garde's riot act to him had an effect? Some players need a shoulder and to be told "hey you're great". And when that doesn't happen, it can effect the lack of confidence more. Obviously as a professional they should put the shirt on and put a shift in.

Or you could look as Gabby as an example, and assume everyone should love you.

Sinclair had ( from the radio / highlights ) a ok game and still has a role to play. And Ayew, as usual, played as an example for everyone else.

Still, good that Gueye got a goal as that could help him in the league.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: oldhill_avfc on January 20, 2016, 11:11:24 AM
I don't get it when I read the suggestions he was lazy or didn't put a shift in last night.

I couldn't fault his work rate - I particulary noticed his movement in trying to get away  from their #20 who seemed to be intent on man marking him by holding Grealish in some type of bear grip for most of the first half.

To me he looked out of touch and to some degree constained by the paucity of options around him - much the same as many have excused Gill for.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: Bad English on January 20, 2016, 12:15:08 PM
many have excused Gill for.
Fair point. However, I have had enough of the seafood puns. ;-)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on January 20, 2016, 12:43:13 PM
Which is the best car park at Wembley?

Anyone know a good place for drinking towards Harrow?

Anyone know when the FA will announce the allocations?

No idea where it is but The Green Man was mighty fine last year.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on January 20, 2016, 12:46:55 PM
Whats happened to Traore?
I think he he has a problem with something around his sole.
As a result he has lost his turbot charged speed.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on January 20, 2016, 12:51:47 PM
Something else I noticed last night was attacking towards the Holte in the first half/swapping ends after the toss. We did the same against Palace, and I presumed we changed ends as we'd lost the toss until someone pointed out that Palace kicked off, so we must have won the toss and chosen to change ends. As Wycombe kicked off last night I presume the same happened. Wonder why they've started doing that? do they think they play better attacking the Holte so try to use it as a first half advantage? Whatever the reason - I don't like it
Clearly it's a poilcy now if we win the toss. We didn't against Leicester  as we kicked off after losing the toss.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on January 20, 2016, 12:54:51 PM
I have just read the match report in this mornings Guardian and its says.... " Wycombe themselves led 3-1 at Villa Park in the League Cup on 2005 before losing 8-3 "

I know a few H & Vers read The Guardian. I have no idea where their reporter Peter Lansley got the idea that game was at Villa Park. Perhaps he was inaccurately told this by an employee or someone associated with Aston Villa Football Club. If this was the case then it is just another sign of how far our once great club has fallen.

I have e-mailed them about this and hopefully it will be remedied in their corrections and clarifications section in the coming days. I shall keep my Guardian subscription at present but review this pending their response.   

Disgraceful.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on January 20, 2016, 12:54:55 PM
I must say I have never seen so many fat blokes dressed up as professional footballers as I did in the Wycombe team last night. There were about 5 in the team but two playing upfront were fit for any Pub team!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on January 20, 2016, 01:07:41 PM
Guzan - One decent save, still too much posing when in possession, Flapped comically at cross ion 2nd half

Lyden - Tidy on debut. Considering I did not know that was not his natural position then actually very good

Richards - Dominant

Clark - won every header and took goal well

Richardson - The journeymans career is over as his legs are showing

Sinclair - looks great in 5 minute cameos, anon for rest of games

Sanchez - quite simply the worst midfielder I have ever seen in our shirt

Westwood - about his level - shame I had high hopes for him but 4 managers cannot get a consistent performance out of him

Grealish - Sadly has fell victim to all the hype and Sherwood mounting him on a pedestal when clearly not good enough (yet?) - worst player on the pitch and considering her shared most of it with Sanchez that is saying something!

Ayew - Works his nads off - holds it a little too long at times but the only player we have with a bit of skill and pace ATM

Gestede - I think its an urban myth about his prowess in the air - he is beaten most times as his timing is so awful. About as mobile as Stephen Hawking - maybe keep as a last chance battering ram

Gana - Changed the game - industrious and scored a good goal. Always looks to go forward which I like

Gil - Caused them concern by his presence and the game opened up although his actual contribution I thought was minimul

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on January 20, 2016, 01:15:18 PM
his actual contribution I thought was minimul


Its... wus minimul
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on January 20, 2016, 01:15:28 PM
Guzan - One decent save, still too much posing when in possession, Flapped comically at cross ion 2nd half

Lyden - Tidy on debut. Considering I did not know that was not his natural position then actually very good

Richards - Dominant

Clark - won every header and took goal well

Richardson - The journeymans career is over as his legs are showing

Sinclair - looks great in 5 minute cameos, anon for rest of games


Sanchez - quite simply the worst midfielder I have ever seen in our shirt

Westwood - about his level - shame I had high hopes for him but 4 managers cannot get a consistent performance out of him

Grealish - Sadly has fell victim to all the hype and Sherwood mounting him on a pedestal when clearly not good enough (yet?) - worst player on the pitch and considering her shared most of it with Sanchez that is saying something!

Ayew - Works his nads off - holds it a little too long at times but the only player we have with a bit of skill and pace ATM

Gestede - I think its an urban myth about his prowess in the air - he is beaten most times as his timing is so awful. About as mobile as Stephen Hawking - maybe keep as a last chance battering ram

Gana - Changed the game - industrious and scored a good goal. Always looks to go forward which I like

Gil - Caused them concern by his presence and the game opened up although his actual contribution I thought was minimul


I've only seen the highlights, so found this quite useful - you would've guessed from the 6/7 clips that Sinclair ran the game and was our most dangerous threat, not suprising at all to hear he did little. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on January 20, 2016, 02:27:33 PM
I don't get it when I read the suggestions he was lazy or didn't put a shift in last night.

I couldn't fault his work rate - I particulary noticed his movement in trying to get away  from their #20 who seemed to be intent on man marking him by holding Grealish in some type of bear grip for most of the first half.

To me he looked out of touch and to some degree constained by the paucity of options around him - much the same as many have excused Gill for.

Repectfully disagree, I thought he hardly moved a muscle last night. As for Gil, we looked a different proposition altogether when he came on. He seemed to find no problem in finding team mates with the ball. Grealish didn't fancy it at all IMO.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: aj2k77 on January 20, 2016, 02:42:58 PM
Not basing this on anything but Grealish to me has the look about him of someone not enjoying his football. I think he was expecting England call ups, booze, women and the life style this season with fans in raptures about him. Instead he's got a public beat down and found out that other teams know about him now and are better equipped defending against him. He wasn't ready for this fight and hasn't had the right attitude from summer on.

I understand it's his free time and he's young and all that but being unconscious on the streets of shagamuff or wherever it was isn't what I expected of him and isn't where he needed to be post season, which he carried on in to the season.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: joe_c on January 20, 2016, 02:44:04 PM
I have just read the match report in this mornings Guardian and its says.... " Wycombe themselves led 3-1 at Villa Park in the League Cup on 2005 before losing 8-3 "

I know a few H & Vers read The Guardian. I have no idea where their reporter Peter Lansley got the idea that game was at Villa Park. Perhaps he was inaccurately told this by an employee or someone associated with Aston Villa Football Club. If this was the case then it is just another sign of how far our once great club has fallen.

I have e-mailed them about this and hopefully it will be remedied in their corrections and clarifications section in the coming days. I shall keep my Guardian subscription at present but review this pending their response.   

Disgraceful.

Most unlike The Grauniad to make a mistake.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on January 20, 2016, 03:18:33 PM

Clark - won every header and took goal well

Gana - Changed the game - industrious and scored a good goal. Always looks to go forward which I like
Clark was at fault twicw when their player was able to get a clean header in but missed both times.
Agree that Gana made a huge difference in the second half.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 20, 2016, 03:43:01 PM
Highlights (http://www.fullmatchesandshows.com/2016/01/19/aston-villa-vs-wycombe-wanderers-highlights/)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: The Edge on January 20, 2016, 04:52:24 PM
Not sure many teams would fear our starting X1. That's how bad this squad is.
At least we go into the Olyon game on the back of a win.
Be great to beat them.
Yow meen Ollbeyun doh ya?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on January 20, 2016, 04:54:46 PM
Highlights (http://www.fullmatchesandshows.com/2016/01/19/aston-villa-vs-wycombe-wanderers-highlights/)

Cheers for that. One thing you notice from both goals is the players celebrating together. Seems to go against the rumours of a split dressing room.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: Dave on January 20, 2016, 05:05:03 PM
Highlights (http://www.fullmatchesandshows.com/2016/01/19/aston-villa-vs-wycombe-wanderers-highlights/)

Cheers for that. One thing you notice from both goals is the players celebrating together. Seems to go against the rumours of a split dressing room.

Yup, was particularly nice to see Gana going over the subs and them all looking really happy for him. Still think he'll be the first one who'll be keen to leave when we're in the Championship, but he's showing signs that he could yet be a useful player for us.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on January 20, 2016, 05:30:43 PM
Highlights (http://www.fullmatchesandshows.com/2016/01/19/aston-villa-vs-wycombe-wanderers-highlights/)

Cheers for that. One thing you notice from both goals is the players celebrating together. Seems to go against the rumours of a split dressing room.

Yes, I thought that too.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on January 20, 2016, 07:38:07 PM
Highlights (http://www.fullmatchesandshows.com/2016/01/19/aston-villa-vs-wycombe-wanderers-highlights/)

Cheers for that. One thing you notice from both goals is the players celebrating together. Seems to go against the rumours of a split dressing room.

Nothing I've seen in the last couple of weeks suggests to me that we've got a split dressing room. I think Garde has fixed that.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Wycombe Wanderers Post-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on January 20, 2016, 07:39:33 PM
Garde has shown he isn't afraid to call out the wankers. It has helped unify the dressing room.
SimplePortal 2.3.6 © 2008-2014, SimplePortal