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Title: atmosphere at the ground
Post by: trevor fisher on January 18, 2016, 07:20:14 PM
The mail has said that the crowd have turned to supporting the team, and this seems to be true. Its essential to be positive and back the players we have. We now know the problems, and they won't be solved this transfer window. No one comes to a poorly performing side dropping like a stone - perhaps a couple of loan signings.

But this can be altered by positive support from the crowd, which can boost players who have often shown too little effort and poor morale, Confidence is low. Back them and it can get that monkey off their back.

It starts against Wycombe tomorrow night. The lads have to have 110% support all the way through and even if it is tough early on - and it was against Notts County - keep behind them. They are all we have. The win is essential but not guaranteed, the opposition will be up for it. Start and continue being positive and carry it on. Villa Park needs to rock.

Trevor Fisher.
Title: Re: atmosphere at the ground
Post by: CT on January 18, 2016, 07:36:28 PM
If they give everything they have then they will always be backed, no matter how poor they might be technically.

It's a pity this level of effort in the last two games wasn't shown more often this season.

I'd change the side and keep players fresh for the Bitters - let's see how committed the "second string" are.
Title: Re: atmosphere at the ground
Post by: saunders_heroes on January 18, 2016, 07:45:28 PM
Yeah I'd play a second string as well. To be honest I'm not bothered about the Cup this season. Save our better players for the Albion game.
Title: Re: atmosphere at the ground
Post by: QuintonVilla on January 18, 2016, 07:48:30 PM
Give the fans something to back like against West Ham, Palace and Leicester (second half) and we will.

What I will say though is our fans rarely lift the players, it's always waiting for the team to do it. The team were poor first half Saturday and the crowd was very quiet. Understandable though I suppose when you consider our home record and league position.

Look at Leicester last season though, their fans got their ground rocking and inspired their team when they were bottom of the league.
Title: Re: atmosphere at the ground
Post by: Glenn Peen on January 18, 2016, 08:33:04 PM
I think we need a new club song. Probably something to the tune of 'Allo 'Allo or The Krypton Factor. Anyone got any ideas for words?
Title: Re: atmosphere at the ground
Post by: dave.woodhall on January 18, 2016, 08:34:06 PM
I think we need a new club song. Probably something to the tune of 'Allo 'Allo or The Krypton Factor. Anyone got any ideas for words?

Grow up or go away permanently.
Title: Re: atmosphere at the ground
Post by: Glenn Peen on January 18, 2016, 08:37:21 PM
I think we need a new club song. Probably something to the tune of 'Allo 'Allo or The Krypton Factor. Anyone got any ideas for words?

Grow up or go away permanently.

Like it, Dave - not sure it scans that well but could become the new anthem. A bit negative, perhaps, but we've all felt frustrated this season.
Title: Re: atmosphere at the ground
Post by: The Edge on January 18, 2016, 08:48:22 PM
I think we need a new club song. Probably something to the tune of 'Allo 'Allo or The Krypton Factor. Anyone got any ideas for words?

Grow up or go away permanently.

Like it, Dave - not sure it scans that well but could become the new anthem. A bit negative, perhaps, but we've all felt frustrated this season.
Glenn are you another lost blue nose drawn naturally to all things Aston Villa like a moth to a flame?
Title: Re: atmosphere at the ground
Post by: hipkiss92 on January 18, 2016, 08:59:18 PM
It wasn't until the ref started giving some strange decisions that the crowd got going. Had been very quiet up until that point.
Title: Re: atmosphere at the ground
Post by: The Edge on January 18, 2016, 09:11:21 PM
It wasn't until the ref started giving some strange decisions that the crowd got going. Had been very quiet up until that point.
Yeah your right. Noisy at the kick off then fizzled out until the ref started being an attention seeker. The linesman on the Trinity Rd side was worse. Couldn't wait to get involved all game. Spotted Cissokhos debatable hand ball at 100 mph but missed Huth blatantly whacking Kozak in the face right in front of him. I was at the back of the Trinity in line with that and saw exactly what happened and was proved right when I watched MOTD. Either I've got eyesight like the bionic man or he chose to ignore what he clearly saw. That certainly got me yelling and the Holte got much louder. Like all fans we need something to get the crowd going. We must try harder to raise some noise imo.
Title: Re: atmosphere at the ground
Post by: FatSam on January 18, 2016, 09:27:42 PM
I think we need a new club song. Probably something to the tune of 'Allo 'Allo or The Krypton Factor. Anyone got any ideas for words?
Grow up or go away permanently.
Like it, Dave - not sure it scans that well but could become the new anthem. A bit negative, perhaps, but we've all felt frustrated this season.
Glenn are you another lost blue nose drawn naturally to all things Aston Villa like a moth to a flame?
Maybe a few kangaroos short in the top paddock, but a well-valued contributor, and definitely not a blue nose. IMO this place often benefits from some absurdist humour to take 'the edge' off things.
Title: Re: atmosphere at the ground
Post by: hipkiss92 on January 18, 2016, 09:32:24 PM
It wasn't until the ref started giving some strange decisions that the crowd got going. Had been very quiet up until that point.
Yeah your right. Noisy at the kick off then fizzled out until the ref started being an attention seeker. The linesman on the Trinity Rd side was worse. Couldn't wait to get involved all game. Spotted Cissokhos debatable hand ball at 100 mph but missed Huth blatantly whacking Kozak in the face right in front of him. I was at the back of the Trinity in line with that and saw exactly what happened and was proved right when I watched MOTD. Either I've got eyesight like the bionic man or he chose to ignore what he clearly saw. That certainly got me yelling and the Holte got much louder. Like all fans we need something to get the crowd going. We must try harder to raise some noise imo.

The elbow looked even worse from the Holte than it does on tv, which is why everyone was going spare.

The handball I still don't get, he was so close and the ball was moving so fast he couldn't have reacted to block it with his hand if he wanted to.

Also, if Gestede's goal hadn't gone in, would we have got a handball from Morgan? I doubt it.
Title: Re: atmosphere at the ground
Post by: QuintonVilla on January 18, 2016, 09:37:21 PM
One very noticeable thing is there are very few player chants these days, probably because they're not very good! Ayew is probably our best player and 'Boom Boom Boom let me hear ya say Ayew, Ayew!' is an easy one.

Holte Enders In The Sky gets sung far too often. Whatever happened to the good old "Villa *clap* Villa *clap*"? Or "Come on you Lions"?
Title: Re: atmosphere at the ground
Post by: The Edge on January 18, 2016, 09:47:28 PM
One very noticeable thing is there are very few player chants these days, probably because they're not very good! Ayew is probably our best player and 'Boom Boom Boom let me hear ya say Ayew, Ayew!' is an easy one.

Holte Enders In The Sky gets sung far too often. Whatever happened to the good old "Villa *clap* Villa *clap*"? Or "Come on you Lions"?
yeah I miss "come on you lions" Also I never sing "birmingham are you listening" as it plays straight into the hands of the Blues jibe "your not a proper Birmingham club" I sing my own version which goes "small heath are you listening" etc etc. You never know it might catch on. ;)
Title: Re: atmosphere at the ground
Post by: The Edge on January 18, 2016, 09:50:36 PM
I think we need a new club song. Probably something to the tune of 'Allo 'Allo or The Krypton Factor. Anyone got any ideas for words?
Grow up or go away permanently.
Like it, Dave - not sure it scans that well but could become the new anthem. A bit negative, perhaps, but we've all felt frustrated this season.
Glenn are you another lost blue nose drawn naturally to all things Aston Villa like a moth to a flame?
Maybe a few kangaroos short in the top paddock, but a well-valued contributor, and definitely not a blue nose. IMO this place often benefits from some absurdist humour to take 'the edge' off things.
ha ha I see what you did there. Maybe my blue nose detection system needs fine tuning. ;)
Title: Re: atmosphere at the ground
Post by: KevinGage on January 18, 2016, 09:57:32 PM
Your username definitely does.   I respectfully suggest Bono or Coopers Head Injury.
Title: Re: atmosphere at the ground
Post by: hipkiss92 on January 18, 2016, 10:04:50 PM
One very noticeable thing is there are very few player chants these days, probably because they're not very good! Ayew is probably our best player and 'Boom Boom Boom let me hear ya say Ayew, Ayew!' is an easy one.

Holte Enders In The Sky gets sung far too often. Whatever happened to the good old "Villa *clap* Villa *clap*"? Or "Come on you Lions"?

Would there be anything less inspiring than singing about Ashley Westwood?
Title: Re: atmosphere at the ground
Post by: ChicagoLion on January 18, 2016, 10:10:46 PM
One very noticeable thing is there are very few player chants these days, probably because they're not very good! Ayew is probably our best player and 'Boom Boom Boom let me hear ya say Ayew, Ayew!' is an easy one.

Holte Enders In The Sky gets sung far too often. Whatever happened to the good old "Villa *clap* Villa *clap*"? Or "Come on you Lions"?

Would there be anything less inspiring than singing about Ashley Westwood?
He,s here He's there and no one really cares- Ashley Westwood
Title: Re: atmosphere at the ground
Post by: QuintonVilla on January 18, 2016, 10:28:10 PM
One very noticeable thing is there are very few player chants these days, probably because they're not very good! Ayew is probably our best player and 'Boom Boom Boom let me hear ya say Ayew, Ayew!' is an easy one.

Holte Enders In The Sky gets sung far too often. Whatever happened to the good old "Villa *clap* Villa *clap*"? Or "Come on you Lions"?

Would there be anything less inspiring than singing about Ashley Westwood?
Singing about Kieron Richardson?
Title: Re: atmosphere at the ground
Post by: Chris Stares on January 18, 2016, 11:17:06 PM
One very noticeable thing is there are very few player chants these days, probably because they're not very good! Ayew is probably our best player and 'Boom Boom Boom let me hear ya say Ayew, Ayew!' is an easy one.

Holte Enders In The Sky gets sung far too often. Whatever happened to the good old "Villa *clap* Villa *clap*"? Or "Come on you Lions"?
yeah I miss "come on you lions" Also I never sing "birmingham are you listening" as it plays straight into the hands of the Blues jibe "your not a proper Birmingham club" I sing my own version which goes "small heath are you listening" etc etc. You never know it might catch on. ;)
We always bring out the "Come on you Lions!" chant from the back of L4 whenever we have a corner.  Usually a few in and around us join in but never gets sustained, unfortunately.
Title: Re: atmosphere at the ground
Post by: Percy McCarthy on January 19, 2016, 08:11:21 AM
One very noticeable thing is there are very few player chants these days, probably because they're not very good! Ayew is probably our best player and 'Boom Boom Boom let me hear ya say Ayew, Ayew!' is an easy one.

Holte Enders In The Sky gets sung far too often. Whatever happened to the good old "Villa *clap* Villa *clap*"? Or "Come on you Lions"?
yeah I miss "come on you lions" Also I never sing "birmingham are you listening" as it plays straight into the hands of the Blues jibe "your not a proper Birmingham club" I sing my own version which goes "small heath are you listening" etc etc. You never know it might catch on. ;)
We always bring out the "Come on you Lions!" chant from the back of L4 whenever we have a corner.  Usually a few in and around us join in but never gets sustained, unfortunately.

Keep it up, you never know.
Title: Re: atmosphere at the ground
Post by: Brend'Watkins on January 19, 2016, 09:31:09 AM
"Come on you Lions" got sang against Palace, fairly loud too.  First time I heard it in ages.

Let's keep it up.
Title: Re: atmosphere at the ground
Post by: in exile on January 19, 2016, 10:11:28 AM
Just don't bring out the drum and/or plastic hand clappers please
Title: Re: atmosphere at the ground
Post by: QuintonVilla on January 19, 2016, 11:26:59 AM
"Come on you Lions" got sang against Palace, fairly loud too.  First time I heard it in ages.

Let's keep it up.
Best way to get songs going or reintroduced is at away games. Sing "come on you Lions" on Saturday at Albion and it will soon catch on again.

Speaking of songs on Saturday all I've heard off my Albion 'mates' at work is "can't wait to sing that 'we'll meet again' song to you when we play you". So lets sing it to them about ourselves 👍
Title: Re: atmosphere at the ground
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on January 19, 2016, 12:52:41 PM
Yeah I'd play a second string as well. To be honest I'm not bothered about the Cup this season. Save our better players for the Albion game.

As we're clearly going down, we should pull out all the stops to win the FA Cup.
Title: Re: atmosphere at the ground
Post by: not3bad on January 19, 2016, 01:02:40 PM
One very noticeable thing is there are very few player chants these days, probably because they're not very good! Ayew is probably our best player and 'Boom Boom Boom let me hear ya say Ayew, Ayew!' is an easy one.

Holte Enders In The Sky gets sung far too often. Whatever happened to the good old "Villa *clap* Villa *clap*"? Or "Come on you Lions"?
yeah I miss "come on you lions" Also I never sing "birmingham are you listening" as it plays straight into the hands of the Blues jibe "your not a proper Birmingham club" I sing my own version which goes "small heath are you listening" etc etc. You never know it might catch on. ;)

I always assume "Birmingham are you listening" is addressed to Birmingham the place:

Birmingham [the place] are you listening
To the song we [that is the Villa your top team] are singing
We're walking along etc etc
Title: Re: atmosphere at the ground
Post by: conman on January 19, 2016, 02:23:29 PM
"Come on you Lions" got sang against Palace, fairly loud too.  First time I heard it in ages.

Let's keep it up.
Best way to get songs going or reintroduced is at away games. Sing "come on you Lions" on Saturday at Albion and it will soon catch on again.

Speaking of songs on Saturday all I've heard off my Albion 'mates' at work is "can't wait to sing that 'we'll meet again' song to you when we play you". So lets sing it to them about ourselves 👍
I think saturday will see the return of fuck the albion for most of the match
shame we dont sing oh i do like to be beside the seaside any more
Title: Re: atmosphere at the ground
Post by: Pat McMahon on January 19, 2016, 02:25:51 PM
One very noticeable thing is there are very few player chants these days, probably because they're not very good! Ayew is probably our best player and 'Boom Boom Boom let me hear ya say Ayew, Ayew!' is an easy one.

Holte Enders In The Sky gets sung far too often. Whatever happened to the good old "Villa *clap* Villa *clap*"? Or "Come on you Lions"?
yeah I miss "come on you lions" Also I never sing "birmingham are you listening" as it plays straight into the hands of the Blues jibe "your not a proper Birmingham club" I sing my own version which goes "small heath are you listening" etc etc. You never know it might catch on. ;)
We always bring out the "Come on you Lions!" chant from the back of L4 whenever we have a corner.  Usually a few in and around us join in but never gets sustained, unfortunately.

It was generally sung when we had a corner in the old days. Nice to see traditions being respected.
Title: Re: atmosphere at the ground
Post by: bruisedshins on January 19, 2016, 03:46:22 PM
It's all about songs taking off and being taken up by others. I remember a few years back a group of lads in the lower Holte were singing the ring of fire tune, despite few others joining in they kept singing, after about 5 minutes of constant singing others finally joined in and it took off. It was the same before we got banned with Brigada, you'd sing and sometimes no one would join in, the song would quieten down and then get louder again and eventually it'd get taken up by others.

I think with the Holte it's such a vast stand that anything other than the usual like "Holte Enders in the Sky" or "Villa, Villa, Villa, Villa" rarely takes off, sound doesn't carry that well either.
Title: Re: atmosphere at the ground
Post by: The Edge on January 19, 2016, 06:57:01 PM
One very noticeable thing is there are very few player chants these days, probably because they're not very good! Ayew is probably our best player and 'Boom Boom Boom let me hear ya say Ayew, Ayew!' is an easy one.

Holte Enders In The Sky gets sung far too often. Whatever happened to the good old "Villa *clap* Villa *clap*"? Or "Come on you Lions"?
yeah I miss "come on you lions" Also I never sing "birmingham are you listening" as it plays straight into the hands of the Blues jibe "your not a proper Birmingham club" I sing my own version which goes "small heath are you listening" etc etc. You never know it might catch on. ;)

I always assume "Birmingham are you listening" is addressed to Birmingham the place:

Birmingham [the place] are you listening
To the song we [that is the Villa your top team] are singing
We're walking along etc etc
Nah "birmingham are you listening" is aimed straight at blues not the city of birmingham. Us singing "birmingham are you listening?" to them implies were not from Birmingham. Get it? That's what the noses round here say an I live in B7.
Title: Re: atmosphere at the ground
Post by: The Edge on January 19, 2016, 06:59:42 PM
Your username definitely does.   I respectfully suggest Bono or Coopers Head Injury.
Dunno how to change it. What's the problem with it anyway?
Title: Re: atmosphere at the ground
Post by: Pat McMahon on January 19, 2016, 07:29:04 PM
Your username definitely does.   I respectfully suggest Bono or Coopers Head Injury.
Dunno how to change it. What's the problem with it anyway?

It's not you, it's the people around you getting annoyed ("don't push me coz I'm close to The Edge...")
Title: Re: atmosphere at the ground
Post by: The Edge on January 19, 2016, 07:37:24 PM
Your username definitely does.   I respectfully suggest Bono or Coopers Head Injury.
Dunno how to change it. What's the problem with it anyway?

It's not you, it's the people around you getting annoyed ("don't push me coz I'm close to The Edge...")
That's not what it means but hey ho I'll have to live with people getting annoyed; )
Title: Re: atmosphere at the ground
Post by: QuintonVilla on January 19, 2016, 07:57:25 PM
Oh and can we have a rendition of "We're going on the pitch..." on Saturday please  ;)
Title: Re: atmosphere at the ground
Post by: pbavfckuwait on January 20, 2016, 06:23:15 AM
Quinton reference the 'We'll meet again", I thought a while back that we need to start singing that to take the pleasure away from the likes of the Bitters and others, plus showing our very dry brummie humour.
Title: Re: atmosphere at the ground
Post by: conman on January 20, 2016, 02:05:32 PM
Quinton reference the 'We'll meet again", I thought a while back that we need to start singing that to take the pleasure away from the likes of the Bitters and others, plus showing our very dry brummie humour.
you mean a bit like singing "we're fuckin shit" over and over again
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