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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: UK Redsox on December 26, 2015, 09:27:51 PM
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Only two days away*, so we might as well run this alongside the West Ham post-match thread.
(* and I'm already part way to Norwich)
it'll be interesting to see if anyone gets a rest for the game.
Maybe Clark will come in for Lescott
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No idea on this one. Only thing you can say is with our error- prone defence we're not going to keep a clean sheet so its whether you see us getting an equalizer or 2....
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Only two days away*, so we might as well run this alongside the West Ham post-match thread.
(* and I'm already part way to Norwich)
it'll be interesting to see if anyone gets a rest for the game.
Maybe Clark will come in for Lescott
I'm certainly not a Lescott fan, but, I have to say he played well today and, apparently he did well vrs Newcastle.
I'm wondering whether a 3-5-2 would help.
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Naaarich 1-3 Villa
Rosario for them. Well he is always off form.
Gray, Gray and Gray for us.
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2-0 to Norwich, no idea who will score as I can only think of three Norwich players off the top of my head. So two from Redmond, Brady and Hoolahan.
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Them 1 Us 4
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Another draw 0-0.
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We are going to win. No problem.
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Today we missed a huge chance to put these lot under pressure. The gap could have been 7 and down to 4 with a win on Monday.
Sadly we didn't.
I think another draw will keep the gap at 9 and kill off any lingering hopes.
1-1.
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Absolute massive match. Biggest game of the season. This is win at all costs. Its really a case that a win here can gather momentum.
If look at harry Kane getting thru and scoring feel there's hope for ayew to get a goal or two as Norwich seem to enjoy backing off.
Lets say 0-2 villa. Please win, please!!
I think he will select
. Guzan
Hutton/bacuna okore Clark/richardson
veretout Westwood
sinclair gestede ayew gill
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I can see Richardson starting with Bacuna moved into midfield if Sanchez is out.
Apart from that, I would go again. Sort of side Gestede might get some joy against.
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Villa win, the start of the miraculous revival which will be talked about for years to come. VTID
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Two teams that ain't about that clean sheet life. This should be fun ;D
Going to go for something crazy like....
3-3
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This is the long awaited win...confidence will be up and we will score early to pile the pressure on Norwich, then add another on the counter, 0-2.
Assuming Richards and Sanchez are out we'll start...
Guzan
Hutton Okore Lescott Bacuna
Westwood Gana
Gil Veretout Ayew
Gestede
Traore will get 3 mins at the end.
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Villa win, the start of the miraculous revival which will be talked about for years to come. VTID
I will take that.
(and whatever you have had).
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We'll fluke a long-awaited win.
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Well, we won't win, could scrape another worthless draw though.
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2-1 Sutton for them, Houghton and saunders for us. In reality, 2-1 defeat
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Norwich are pretty poor but still too good for us. Another worthless draw is probably the best we can expect.
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For those of us who still retain some belief, it goes without saying that the next two games against bottom four teams are cup finals. If we could somehow pull two victories out of the hat, not only would the table look a lot better, confidence would rocket amongst the team and supporters.
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I said before the Newcastle game that the two I could see us winning out of this batch of games were Norwich and Sunderland. Norwich will be the tougher out the two though. Our record is not too bad there. so who knows.
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anything will do even a point.
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Two teams that ain't about that clean sheet life. This should be fun ;D
Going to go for something crazy like....
3-3
Villa scoring three, the mind boggles ;D
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2-0 to Norwich, no idea who will score as I can only think of three Norwich players off the top of my head. So two from Redmond, Brady and Hoolahan.
Just remembered Cameron Jerome plays for them so he might be one of the scorers.
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Well, we won't win, could scrape another worthless draw though.
they're not worthless. 10 draws to go with 8 or so wins should be plenty 😉
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Anything other than a loss would do me atm in all honesty. What we'd all give for a big, juicy 3 points though! Here's hoping that our season finally starts here...
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Guzan
Bacuna Okore Lescott Clark
Westwood
Gana. Veretout
Grealish
Ayew. Gestede
Traore for Grealish after an hour - time to let Jack off the leash to test if he has the character required & has some backbone, Traore needs more than 10 mins at some point.
Gil not first option - soooo average & a complete physical passenger, no pace, actually made two 'challenges' yesterday but does not offer enough with the ball to justify being a passenger.
Successive managers have been obsessed with either defensive or creative centre midfielders, we have no athleticism, no box to box - shocking lack of balance!
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Can we bring back Lambert as manager for this one....and Sunderland away too. Two of his favourite opposition as Villa manager.
2-2 anyway so not enough.
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Guzan
Bacuna Okore Lescott Clark
Westwood
Gana. Veretout
Grealish
Ayew. Gestede
Traore for Grealish after an hour - time to let Jack off the leash to test if he has the character required & has some backbone, Traore needs more than 10 mins at some point.
Gil not first option - soooo average & a complete physical passenger, no pace, actually made two 'challenges' yesterday but does not offer enough with the ball to justify being a passenger.
Successive managers have been obsessed with either defensive or creative centre midfielders, we have no athleticism, no box to box - shocking lack of balance!
I'd keep the same side. We need continuity although at the same time, there's a temptation to stick Sinclair back in and go for pace and put Gestede in at Sunderland, who look dodgy from crosses.
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Win for us. First one I have predicted all season. I also predict another parking ticket because I always get one in that benighted hole of a city. Those of you going by car, the first BP petrol station on the left on the A11 is where Alan Partridge was filmed. Mention it to the manager it makes him go ape shit.
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Win for us. First one I have predicted all season. I also predict another parking ticket because I always get one in that benighted hole of a city. Those of you going by car, the first BP petrol station on the left on the A11 is where Alan Partridge was filmed. Mention it to the manager it makes him go ape shit.
Do you mean the 2nd series set in the petrol station or the first season where he goes to buy some windscreen wiper fluid?
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Maybe, now it's really looking too late, we will actually win this. I honestly hardly care about us staying up any more, I'm resigned to doom - I just want to celebrate some fucking wins once in a while.
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Is Norwich City really so bad?
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A cathartic, kickstarter of an away win.
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Is Norwich City really so bad?
No. It's a great little city.
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The positive second half's against Newcastle and Wham need to be translated into a win here.
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A decent striker and we'd have thrashed West Ham yesterday. Thought we played really well, it's just frustrating we couldn't get the goals our display deserved.
Open the chequebook next month and we'll have a fighting chance of staying up.
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Only two days away*, so we might as well run this alongside the West Ham post-match thread.
(* and I'm already part way to Norwich)
it'll be interesting to see if anyone gets a rest for the game.
Maybe Clark will come in for Lescott
Clark for Lescott - are you joking? Lescott was solid yesterday.
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1-1...so that means either 3 points or nil points..
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Only two days away*, so we might as well run this alongside the West Ham post-match thread.
(* and I'm already part way to Norwich)
it'll be interesting to see if anyone gets a rest for the game.
Maybe Clark will come in for Lescott
Clark for Lescott - are you joking? Lescott was solid yesterday.
Lescott's looked a lot more settled the last few games. The extra midfielder in there may have helped though.
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Is Norwich City really so bad?
No. It's a great little city.
......In the Netherlands
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The positive second half's against Newcastle and Wham need to be translated into a win here.
Why can't they play from the start like the last two matches second halves? Rene needs to kick them up the ar*e in the pre game dressing room, plus of course, find someone as well as Ayew who can score a goal or two.
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The positive second half's against Newcastle and Wham need to be translated into a win here.
Why can't they play from the start like the last two matches second halves? Rene needs to kick them up the ar*e in the pre game dressing room, plus of course, find someone as well as Ayew who can score a goal or two.
It's not as easy as just kicking players in the arse though is it? Rene, or Remi as I like to call him has got them from not playing well at all for a long time to progressively improving for longer stretches. The goal just before HT was a killer because I'm confident given how we were playing overall we would have won the game in the second half. And especially if we had a proper forward or two in the squad. Gestede did ok yesterday but he should be sub and not a starter. Throw in a Loic Remy or Charlie Austin then we might give ourselves a much better chance.
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Dreadful place full of religious relics and not a toolmaker or a sheet metal worker amongst them.
Clampy, I stumbled upon them shooting Partridge when I was coming back from Yarmouth races. It was the series with the Geordie who did machine gun impressions. I don't know if that was 1 or 2.
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Naaarich 1-3 Villa
Rosario for them. Well he is always off form.
Gray, Gray and Gray for us.
Andy or Andy?
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Stuart. Kept us up at Newcastle back in the day.
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Upon the final whistle Delia and Doug should present some sort of Paul Lambert Memorial Trophy to the winner (following their own leopardskin thonged mud wrestling contest in the centre circle).
2-1 Norwich but we're both going down.
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Stuart. Kept us up at Newcastle back in the day.
Ahaa Stuart. He is caretaker at Fulham at the moment. Seem to have made a career out of that.
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Cock piss Norwich 0 Villa 1. Gap down to 6.
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Great guy Stuart Grey. Got the goal at the Geordie Nation (clears throat and expectorates) and they started fighting among each other.
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Think I saw Stuart Gray and the Black Andy Grey make debuts at Bradford vey early in the Sir GT promotion winning season. We won.
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4-2, and Steve Staunton played for Bradford (I think)
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Another draw.
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Is Norwich City really so bad?
No. It's a great little city.
......In the Netherlands
"You're just a small town in Holland..."
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Stuart. Kept us up at Newcastle back in the day.
He also scored a slightly fortuitous header against Middlesbrough that season that robbed them of two points that would have kept them up at our expense.
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We'll never win without a clean sheet because we seem unlikely to ever score more than one. I think this is the game.
1-0 Villa.
Ayew again.
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Comfortable 2-0 to Norwich
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We will definitely fuck these fuckers. 2-0 Villa a stroll in the park.
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0-2 villa win. 1 from a set piece just before half time and then one of the counter at about 75-80mins. Rudy and Traore with the goals.
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We are finally going to win and get points but I can't remember how many because it's been a while. 1-2
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Us
All day long
This is the game the empire strikes back
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Win, no option
Lose and it is away to Bury et al.
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The Force Awakens. Villa 3-1
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Norwich r2d2 villa c3po
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Both teams not very good at defending so i will go for a 2-2 draw
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Norwich r2d2 villa c3po
Lost due to a Wookie mistake ?
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1-1 draw. Another 2 points down the shit pot
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Win, no option
Lose and it is away to Bury et al.
Bury? That'll be a Fall from grace
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We will wipe the smug smile from the bloated face of the insufferable sybarite Steven Fry.
Remember the banner at the League Cup Final.
ASTON VILLA
CANARY KILLA
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Hey now, hang in a minute. No dissing Mr Fry
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Hey now, hang in a minute. No dissing Mr Fry
No exceptions, we need the points. Sod Partridge. Sod Sale of the Century. Sod Matthews Turkey. Sod Delia. Sod Fry.
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Sod Fry.
If you get a knock on the back door tonight ask your missus to deal with it.
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We will wipe the smug smile from the bloated face of the insufferable sybarite Steven Fry.
It's great to know I'm not alone where he's concerned.
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The Force Awakens. Villa 3-1
Just checking as we have only scored 2 goals, let alone 3 goals, in the Prem once in the last
3 months. So are you the world's greatest optimist or have you been on the sherry?
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Strangely think we will win. Ayew again then a late second from Veretout.
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Right I'm going for a 2-1 Villa victory here to start the great revival! Ayew and a debut goal for Veretout.
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1-1
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Norwich r2d2 villa c3po
Lost due to a Wookie mistake ?
I was thinking yesterday how much Alan Hutton resembles a shaved Chewbacca
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I can't help thinking we'll win this. I've no idea where this blind optimism has come from.
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I can't help thinking we'll win this. I've no idea where this blind optimism has come from.
You've been on the sherry!
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I can't help thinking we'll win this. I've no idea where this blind optimism has come from.
You've been on the sherry!
Hmm.... I'll post again in the morning when I've sobered up then.
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I can't help thinking we'll win this. I've no idea where this blind optimism has come from.
It what happens when you get sick of reality.
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I can't help thinking we'll win this. I've no idea where this blind optimism has come from.
You've been on the sherry!
Hmm.... I'll post again in the morning when I've sobered up then.
Drink from dawn onwards if it means we actually win one.
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I can't help thinking we'll win this. I've no idea where this blind optimism has come from.
You've been on the sherry!
Hmm.... I'll post again in the morning when I've sobered up then.
Good idea and if you arrive at the same conclusion I would start worrying.
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Do you think he may mix things up tomorrow?
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Well La Roca's out so there's one change
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Do you think he may mix things up tomorrow?
I believe he will not do so, but that we will win.
Sooner rather than later, we will turn it on and put a run together playing liquid football. Still too late to save us from the drop, but I am convinced it will happen.
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I thought the football yesterday was good, bloody annoying Amavi had his injury as massive loss. Do think the football is far better and will improve but yes, think we are too far behind but two wins eh lol
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Got to win the next two. Anything less and we've got too much to do. Remarkably we're still within sniffing distance of 17th...just about. And to drag ourselves within 6 points of Norwich tomorrow could be a turning point. 2 wins on the bounce could also instil a lot of much needed confidence. This is where our season may just be saved. It's a long shot but the wins have to start coming immediately now.
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I think the manager has started to have an effect, think we will win today but there again I am on the vodka
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I think win and a draw would give us enough hope to keep going. 2 wins and we will stay up but can't see 2 wins on the bounce.
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We are still in this. Norwich players out and just been smashed. Villa. Best performance of the season and gaining confidence. Please give Traore more pitch time. He will cause problems to any team in the prem ......
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We are still in this. Norwich players out and just been smashed. Villa. Best performance of the season and gaining confidence. Please give Traore more pitch time. He will cause problems to any team in the prem ......
This.
Dogged 0-1 win.
Have a feeling Jack will start this one with Ayew and Rudy up top.
First game this season we aren't on the tv here so of course we'll win!!
UTV!
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Just get to the January window still in touch and w stand a chance (slim but a chance) - keep a clean sheet and we will win!
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Right Villa it's my birthday today, so how about a win please.
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Right Villa it's my birthday today, so how about a win please.
Happy birthday, let's hope you get a Villa win and positive progress in the test!
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Cheers and indeed!
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If Richard's is fit, I'd like him to play right back with Okore remaining at centre half.
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It'll be interesting to see what Garde does with Sanchez being out. The four man midfield has made us look a lot more solid and given Veretout a bit more freedom. Will we see the young lad Jordan Lyden thrown in or will he start Gil?
Oh and Happy Birthday PaulWinch.
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I can't help thinking we'll win this. I've no idea where this blind optimism has come from.
You've been on the sherry!
Hmm.... I'll post again in the morning when I've sobered up then.
Good idea and if you arrive at the same conclusion I would start worrying.
It's the morning, I'm sober, and I'm still of the same opinion.
And so are 58% of the poll as I type this. Who knew crystal meth was so widely available?
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Quite a few positive posters in this thread.
Just a pity that Garde doesn't share that positivity.
He'll hold out for a 1-1 draw at best.
Take something to read Traore.
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Quite a few positive posters in this thread.
Just a pity that Garde doesn't share that positivity.
He'll hold out for a 1-1 draw at best.
Take something to read Traore.
I don't think we've played for draw's at all. We had to stop the habit of losing first of all and picking up points have done that. We need to build on it now though.
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We are still in this. Norwich players out and just been smashed. Villa. Best performance of the season and gaining confidence. Please give Traore more pitch time. He will cause problems to any team in the prem ......
This.
Dogged 0-1 win.
Have a feeling Jack will start this one with Ayew and Rudy up top.
First game this season we aren't on the tv here so of course we'll win!!
UTV!
I'm going one further. 2-0 to the villa. Veretout & Gestede. Why do you start your post with This. Just wondering
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Because he agrees with the quoted post, perhaps?
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Losing Sanchez did cost us, but I was a little dismayed at how poorly the players adapted to the substitution. Maybe there was a lack of clarity in instructions from the bench, who knows. They looked better organised when they came back out. Veretout is starting to look like a threat playing where he is, I'd try to not have to move him, but does Remi believe he has other resources to keep him there? I don't know, so it's a good job I'm not him!
If Richards is fit, I'd get him in at right-back. Hutton, for all his admirable enthusiasm, simply cannot cross, and his defensive positioning is costing us regularly. That's the change I'd make, I'll leave the Sanchez conundrum to Garde.
And here's hoping it feels like all our birthdays come later!
Villa win, I feels it.
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Villa win . Must and will.
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It'll be interesting to see what Garde does with Sanchez being out. The four man midfield has made us look a lot more solid and given Veretout a bit more freedom. Will we see the young lad Jordan Lyden thrown in or will he start Gil?
Oh and Happy Birthday PaulWinch.
Cheers. I'd be half tempted to throw Lyden in.
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Because he agrees with the quoted post, perhaps?
Strange way to put it though? Not really into computer lingo I only come on here to join the villa debate.
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That's da yoof of today for you!
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Right Villa it's my birthday today, so how about a win please.
Happy Birthday Paul and Villa to make it a great one with a 2-1 win
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It would be nice!
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Just clocked it that Lyden is a "Jordan". Chuck him in!
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Changed my mind to a win only because surely we can't go any longer without fluking something. We are shit but not that shit. Could do with a really jammy goal as well. We've started to get a touch of luck with Westwood not getting a pen against him for blatant hand ball.
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Right Villa it's my birthday today, so how about a win please.
Happy Birthday Paul and Villa to make it a great one with a 2-1 win
HB PaulWinch. It's a win today, no doubt about it!
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Right Villa it's my birthday today, so how about a win please.
Well England boys down south have delivered for you now it's Villa's turn. Happy Birthday.
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Happy 30th(?) PaulWinch, may Villa win and/or Delia bake you a birthday cake.
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That's da yoof of today for you!
This.
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That's da yoof of today for you!
This.
That
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Strange way to put it though? Not really into computer lingo I only come on here to join the villa debate.
Is computer lingo old money for Bantz?
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That's da yoof of today for you!
This.
That
the other
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That's da yoof of today for you!
This.
That
Nice one Edge.
Just a little demo of what Legion means.
As the vast majority of posters on here are much more intelligent and eloquent than me and seem to be able to express what I want to say better than I can, I tend to use "This" quite a lot.
I see it as a compliment.
A scrappy 1-0 win will do me very nicely today thanks!
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That's da yoof of today for you!
This.
That
Nice one Edge.
Just a little demo of what Legion means.
As the vast majority of posters on here are much more intelligent and eloquent than me and seem to be able to express what I want to say better than I can, I tend to use "This" quite a lot.
I see it as a compliment.
A scrappy 1-0 win will do me very nicely today thanks!
This. ;)
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That's da yoof of today for you!
This.
That
Nice one Edge.
Just a little demo of what Legion means.
As the vast majority of posters on here are much more intelligent and eloquent than me and seem to be able to express what I want to say better than I can, I tend to use "This" quite a lot.
I see it as a compliment.
A scrappy 1-0 win will do me very nicely today thanks!
okey Doke. I'm goin 2-0 Villa. We have to win sometime an I think Remi is slowly turning the ship around.
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Norwich 1 Aston villa 4
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I think today will shore if Garde is indeed turning the tide of if the last 135 minutes have been down to the opposition being very poor too.
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He needs to "shore" up defence to do that!
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He needs to "shore" up defence to do that!
I sea what you are trying to do here
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I've taken leave of my senses and had a tenner on us to win and Jordan Veretout to score anytime at 22/1 so we'll win. Definitely. I hope
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Rémi! Give us a wave!
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Please, no Westwood today.
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Fuck me, no Okore, no Lescott in the starting line up.
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Deckchairs re arranged on titanic
#AVFC XI (v Norwich) - Guzan, Hutton, Clark, Richards, Richardson, Bacuna, Gana, Westwood, Veretout, Sinclair, Ayew
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In Remi we trust...
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In Remi we trust...
We have no choice but to get behind him and trust his judgement. Shocked at him dropping Gestede though. He caused wet spam all sorts of problems.