Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Chico Hamilton III on December 14, 2015, 10:56:03 AM
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Has this been posted already?
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/arsenal-players-celebrate-return-premier-7008568
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Making the most of his last season as a Premier league ''footballer'' and celebrity.
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Clyne's slippers are nice
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Scruffy fuckers for the most part and all seemingly unable to put the phone down.
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In the interests of consistency after Grealish, he's got to play with the reserves for 2 weeks.
Double punishment for doing it as club captain = 4 weeks.
Crimes against humanity for that cap. 20 weeks. That must take him past season end. No selection headaches for Remi on that score.
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Bunch of fucking tasteless bellends.
Gabby can just Fook Right Off
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In the interests of consistency after Grealish, he's got to play with the reserves for 2 weeks.
Double punishment for doing it as club captain = 4 weeks.
Crimes against humanity for that cap. 20 weeks. That must take him past season end. No selection headaches for Remi on that score.
On behalf of the reserves, thanks but no thanks
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Twat makes himself look an even bigger twat. No surprise really.
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He can't help himself can he the soft lad.
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When we look back during our stay in the championship, I will remember the names of the twats got paid thousands and didnt give a toss about the club. Never forget.
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They shouldn't be allowed into any establishment without a tweed jacket, cravat and slacks.
Bunch of twunts.
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As much as I'd like to, I can't really see the problem with this.
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Who cares?
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Big deal. I think we've got enough to worry about than to fret over this non story.
Gabby Agbonlahor is not the reason we've become relegation rubbish.
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Big deal. I think we've got enough to worry about than to fret over this non story.
Gabby Agbonlahor is not the reason we've become relegation rubbish.
No, but his attitude is symptomatic.
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I think I'd want to keep my head down, get an early night and concentrate on getting fit. Not prance around an expensive night club in a shit hat.
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Big deal. I think we've got enough to worry about than to fret over this non story.
Gabby Agbonlahor is not the reason we've become relegation rubbish.
No, but his attitude is symptomatic.
Why because he went out for a beer? Jesus.
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I look forward to the "Gabby's Arse at Walsall Party" thread.
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What a scruffy bunch......Why is Ozil wearing a skirt?
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Big deal. I think we've got enough to worry about than to fret over this non story.
Gabby Agbonlahor is not the reason we've become relegation rubbish.
No, but his attitude is symptomatic.
Why because he went out for a beer? Jesus.
Went out for a beer in London. I personally think It creates the wrong image when the club's languishing at the bottom of the league.
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Big deal. I think we've got enough to worry about than to fret over this non story.
Gabby Agbonlahor is not the reason we've become relegation rubbish.
No, but his attitude is symptomatic.
Why because he went out for a beer? Jesus.
No I'm talking about his half arsed apparently struggling to give a fuck, whilst waddling around on the pitch looking like an overgrown mascot that forgot to leave the pitch stinking attitude.
And this from a player who is definitely on "Proper Premier League Wages"
He is symptomatic of far too many players at the club and has been for far too many years.
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Big deal. I think we've got enough to worry about than to fret over this non story.
Gabby Agbonlahor is not the reason we've become relegation rubbish.
No, but his attitude is symptomatic.
Why because he went out for a beer? Jesus.
Went out for a beer in London. I personally think It creates the wrong image when the club's languishing at the bottom of the league.
It doesn't bother me either way. The problems at Villa have nothing to do with Gabby's social life. The real problems lie elsewhere, and fans should concentrate their criticisms at the real guilty party.
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Big deal. I think we've got enough to worry about than to fret over this non story.
Gabby Agbonlahor is not the reason we've become relegation rubbish.
No, but his attitude is symptomatic.
Why because he went out for a beer? Jesus.
No I'm talking about his half arsed apparently struggling to give a fuck, whilst waddling around on the pitch looking like an overgrown mascot that forgot to leave the pitch stinking attitude.
And this from a player who is definitely on "Proper Premier League Wages"
He is symptomatic of far too many players at the club and has been for far too many years.
He/They are entitled to a social life away from Aston Villa FC
He hasnt disgraced himself or the club in this article.
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Big deal. I think we've got enough to worry about than to fret over this non story.
Gabby Agbonlahor is not the reason we've become relegation rubbish.
No, but his attitude is symptomatic.
Why because he went out for a beer? Jesus.
No I'm talking about his half arsed apparently struggling to give a fuck, whilst waddling around on the pitch looking like an overgrown mascot that forgot to leave the pitch stinking attitude.
And this from a player who is definitely on "Proper Premier League Wages"
He is symptomatic of far too many players at the club and has been for far too many years.
Keeping players past their best at the club isn't Gabby's fault.
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I think there's more than one guilty party in this fiasco, there's about 20 and Gabby's one of them.
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Big deal. I think we've got enough to worry about than to fret over this non story.
Gabby Agbonlahor is not the reason we've become relegation rubbish.
No, but his attitude is symptomatic.
Why because he went out for a beer? Jesus.
No I'm talking about his half arsed apparently struggling to give a fuck, whilst waddling around on the pitch looking like an overgrown mascot that forgot to leave the pitch stinking attitude.
And this from a player who is definitely on "Proper Premier League Wages"
He is symptomatic of far too many players at the club and has been for far too many years.
I agree that he's pretty rubbish on the pitch (and has been for a while), but "being out of his house on a Sunday night" is pretty low down on the list of things to criticism Gabby for.
As saunders_heroes points out (although I disagree with him on how laser-focused his one target is), there are lots of actual things to be angry about. This doesn't really need to be one of them.
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I think here's more than one guilty party in this fiasco, there's about 20 and Gabby's one of them.
If you want to blame the players for Villa's decline then fair enough, but I disagree. They're just the symptoms of our decline not the cause.
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I heard Lerner paid for his National Express ticket.
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Big deal. I think we've got enough to worry about than to fret over this non story.
Gabby Agbonlahor is not the reason we've become relegation rubbish.
No, but his attitude is symptomatic.
Why because he went out for a beer? Jesus.
Went out for a beer in London. I personally think It creates the wrong image when the club's languishing at the bottom of the league.
It doesn't bother me either way. The problems at Villa have nothing to do with Gabby's social life. The real problems lie elsewhere, and fans should concentrate their criticisms at the real guilty party.
Don't they? I'd suggest a direct correlation between his can't be arsed attitude and lack of professionalism along with plenty of other players over the last few years as being part of the picture of decline at AVFC.
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Big deal. I think we've got enough to worry about than to fret over this non story.
Gabby Agbonlahor is not the reason we've become relegation rubbish.
No, but his attitude is symptomatic.
Why because he went out for a beer? Jesus.
No I'm talking about his half arsed apparently struggling to give a fuck, whilst waddling around on the pitch looking like an overgrown mascot that forgot to leave the pitch stinking attitude.
And this from a player who is definitely on "Proper Premier League Wages"
He is symptomatic of far too many players at the club and has been for far too many years.
I agree that he's pretty rubbish on the pitch (and has been for a while), but "being out of his house on a Sunday night" is pretty low down on the list of things to criticism Gabby for.
As saunders_heroes points out (although I disagree with him on how laser-focused his one target is), there are lots of actual things to be angry about. This doesn't really need to be one of them.
My original point in this post was exactly that. If there's anything to criticise Gabby for, going out for the evening isn't one of them, which I explained in response to s-h's post.
Although going out with half the team that's just taken the piss out of your team mates for 95 minutes will definitely not sit well with some people.
Where Gabby's concerned I've only one concern. I don't want him anywhere near the first team unless he can play with the hunger he demonstrated when he was younger, and not the one he appears to have developed latter.
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Big deal. I think we've got enough to worry about than to fret over this non story.
Gabby Agbonlahor is not the reason we've become relegation rubbish.
No, but his attitude is symptomatic.
Why because he went out for a beer? Jesus.
No I'm talking about his half arsed apparently struggling to give a fuck, whilst waddling around on the pitch looking like an overgrown mascot that forgot to leave the pitch stinking attitude.
And this from a player who is definitely on "Proper Premier League Wages"
He is symptomatic of far too many players at the club and has been for far too many years.
Keeping players past their best at the club isn't Gabby's fault.
Oh, so there is more to it than just chucking bin bags full of £50 notes at it then?
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I don't know why a player would want to go to another club's Christmas party anyway, especially after we'd just lost to them. Maybe a player going back to an old club's bash (Weimann popping back here for a beer with his ex team mates for example) would be understandable but that's it.
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I don't know why a player would want to go to another club's Christmas party anyway, especially after we'd just lost to them. Maybe a player going back to an old club's bash (Weimann popping back here for a beer with his ex team mates for example) would be understandable but that's it.
As an Arsenal fan he may be in awe of them
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No one would care if we were 11th and Gabby had scored 9 in the league.
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No one would care if we were 11th and Gabby had scored 9 in the league.
There's more chance of us finishing 11th than Gabby scoring 9.
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No one would care if we were 11th and Gabby had scored 9 in the league.
We are bottom, he's crap, sulky, half-arsed and looks like an unhealthy Pablo Escobar.
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The point is that they have nothing to do with each other. Players are humans who sometimes congregate in largish groups at events called 'parties'. I'm much more concerned about the fact that he's never been a good finisher and is getting worse, that we're bottom, that Sherwood was allowed to run this club to the bottom of the league by our incredibly incompetent owner. Much more bothering.
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The point is that they have nothing to do with each other. Players are humans who sometimes congregate in largish groups at events called 'parties'. I'm much more concerned about the fact that he's never been a good finisher and is getting worse, that we're bottom, that Sherwood was allowed to run this club to the bottom of the league by our incredibly incompetent owner. Much more bothering.
Definitely this.
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He's turned into a right fat git so I do hope they put enough sausage rolls and Pringles on, the big fat sod.
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that Koscielny is a severe looking fella
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We've all loved Gabby in the past, but he's been living on his past reputation for some time.
He hasn't had a decent game for us since Sunderland away last season, and we need to be looking back another 12 months for another decent performance.
His being out at the Arse party doesn't bother me in the slightest - I can't see him playing for us again anyway.
His best days are long over and he needs to move on to a League One/Two club if he wants to kick a ball around for a living.
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Gabby Gabby Gabby Agbonlahor
Shops at £ store
Shops at £ store
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Big deal. I think we've got enough to worry about than to fret over this non story.
Gabby Agbonlahor is not the reason we've become relegation rubbish.
No, but his attitude is symptomatic.
Why because he went out for a beer? Jesus.
No I'm talking about his half arsed apparently struggling to give a fuck, whilst waddling around on the pitch looking like an overgrown mascot that forgot to leave the pitch stinking attitude.
And this from a player who is definitely on "Proper Premier League Wages"
He is symptomatic of far too many players at the club and has been for far too many years.
He/They are entitled to a social life away from Aston Villa FC
He hasnt disgraced himself or the club in this article.
But he has got a shit hat and for that he should be ashamed of himself.
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It seems a bit of an odd decision, going to Arsenal's party.
Maybe he's daft enough to think that if he can cozy up to the likes of Ozil and Mertersecker then he might get a transfer there once we've been relegated.
And there's a thought, I wonder if he has a relegation clause in his contract?
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Didn't some of our players also celebrate Arsenal humiliating us in the FA Cup final, at Arsenal's FA Cup Winning and Aston Villa Humiliating party?
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I've been to many of our rival companies Christmas parties.
I still think they're twats but you can't beat having a free pint at someone else's expense.
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Big deal. I think we've got enough to worry about than to fret over this non story.
Gabby Agbonlahor is not the reason we've become relegation rubbish.
No, but his attitude is symptomatic.
Why because he went out for a beer? Jesus.
No I'm talking about his half arsed apparently struggling to give a fuck, whilst waddling around on the pitch looking like an overgrown mascot that forgot to leave the pitch stinking attitude.
And this from a player who is definitely on "Proper Premier League Wages"
He is symptomatic of far too many players at the club and has been for far too many years.
He/They are entitled to a social life away from Aston Villa FC
He hasnt disgraced himself or the club in this article.
Did you actually read what I said?
Where did I say he shouldn't have a social life or that he'd brought himself or teh club into disrepute?
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I fail to understand how people think players can adopt a way of life that mirrors a player playing for his local pub side (no comments on we are, aren't we please).
If people think that it's acceptable to show such a relaxed attitude, then you are going to get less than dedicated performances on the pitch. I assume that there is no full training today as it is the day after a match but with the situation we are in, every hour at the training ground is important.
Players are paid a fortune and the fans have a right to expect professionalism from the players. This can be either be training harder (physically and tactically) or keeping your head down when things are not going well.
How does this compare with Houllier's comments at Liverpool and how people are viewing it. I bet there are a few saying this is ok but were highly critical of Houllier.
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Big deal. I think we've got enough to worry about than to fret over this non story.
Gabby Agbonlahor is not the reason we've become relegation rubbish.
No, but his attitude is symptomatic.
Why because he went out for a beer? Jesus.
No I'm talking about his half arsed apparently struggling to give a fuck, whilst waddling around on the pitch looking like an overgrown mascot that forgot to leave the pitch stinking attitude.
And this from a player who is definitely on "Proper Premier League Wages"
He is symptomatic of far too many players at the club and has been for far too many years.
He/They are entitled to a social life away from Aston Villa FC
He hasnt disgraced himself or the club in this article.
Did you actually read what I said?
Where did I say he shouldn't have a social life or that he'd brought himself or teh club into disrepute?
Yes ... You were suggesting his atitude in the shirt was not good enough, which I agree with .but I can't see what relevance that has to what he does in his own time away from club matters.
& your second no you didn't
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Is it Gabby in the white hat on his phone? If so, am I the only one who thinks it's nothing like him, that chap is white isn't he? Maybe it's me, it was a long old night at work. Even if it is him, it's not a real problem anyway.
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I fail to understand how people think players can adopt a way of life that mirrors a player playing for his local pub side (no comments on we are, aren't we please).
If people think that it's acceptable to show such a relaxed attitude, then you are going to get less than dedicated performances on the pitch. I assume that there is no full training today as it is the day after a match but with the situation we are in, every hour at the training ground is important.
Players are paid a fortune and the fans have a right to expect professionalism from the players. This can be either be training harder (physically and tactically) or keeping your head down when things are not going well.
How does this compare with Houllier's comments at Liverpool and how people are viewing it. I bet there are a few saying this is ok but were highly critical of Houllier.
Bravo sir.
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I didn't care about the Houllier thing either.
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Stone him to death....how dare he!
I agree with "what a bunch of twats" comments.
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Looks like he's been on the pills.
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Was Remi Garde there? Or,even worse Jack!!!
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Not many seem to care how any of our players conduct themselves. They're unprofessional on the pitch and unprofessional off the pitch, short of one of them being seen taking a shit on the club flag I don't think anyone bats an eyelid at any of the pathetic losers such is the apathy around the place.
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Gabby isn't the first Villa player to hang out with the Arsenal
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa178/Brendunne/a1eb973d-ebad-4bab-8e8a-c3bd1a7cbbab_zpsl8hztzw1.jpg) (http://s201.photobucket.com/user/Brendunne/media/a1eb973d-ebad-4bab-8e8a-c3bd1a7cbbab_zpsl8hztzw1.jpg.html)
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I fail to understand how people think players can adopt a way of life that mirrors a player playing for his local pub side (no comments on we are, aren't we please).
This is it for me. I understand why people say that footballers should be allowed to do things that we "normal" folk all get up to.
Fair enough, if they want to do that. But in that case, they should be paid the same shitty wages we "normal" folk get.
As the French (more or less) say, "you can't keep the butter, and the money, and shag the dairymaid".
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I suppose it all depends on whether this activity helps speed up his recovery from injury or not / improve his on field displays.
I'm sure we all possess some rudimentary medical knowledge which would intuitively suggest that this would not do so, though the content of the drinks, finish time and rest of week schedule would also need to be taken into consideration.
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Gabby Agbonlahor is not the reason we've become relegation rubbish.
I'd say his piss poor performances and half arsed attititude over the last three seasons have contributed to our malaise. The fact he's club captain also kind of sums up the club.
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Gabby Agbonlahor is not the reason we've become relegation rubbish.
I'd say his piss poor performances and half arsed attititude over the last three seasons have contributed to our malaise. The fact he's club captain also kind of sums up the club.
I would have to agree with that. After all if he can get away with doing fuck all not exactly a good example to others
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Gabby Agbonlahor is not the reason we've become relegation rubbish.
I'd say his piss poor performances and half arsed attititude over the last three seasons have contributed to our malaise. The fact he's club captain also kind of sums up the club.
He's not the reason the club is rubbish, he's just emblematic of our rubbishness. Used to be ok, now can't be arsed. A poster boy for complacency, apathy and misplaced arrogance.
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Gabby Agbonlahor is not the reason we've become relegation rubbish.
I'd say his piss poor performances and half arsed attititude over the last three seasons have contributed to our malaise. The fact he's club captain also kind of sums up the club.
He's not the reason the club is rubbish, he's just emblematic of our rubbishness. Used to be ok, now can't be arsed. A poster boy for complacency, apathy and misplaced arrogance.
A senior player and the club captain, tremendous example and inspiration to any young players. I read an article on Grealish and he said he was his hero growing up and couldn't believe it when he started training with him and then got to play in the first team with him.
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Gabby Agbonlahor is not the reason we've become relegation rubbish.
I'd say his piss poor performances and half arsed attititude over the last three seasons have contributed to our malaise. The fact he's club captain also kind of sums up the club.
He's not the reason the club is rubbish, he's just emblematic of our rubbishness. Used to be ok, now can't be arsed. A poster boy for complacency, apathy and misplaced arrogance.
He ought to be our new club mascot.
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I'm pretty sure he's going to have had permission, must be a boring fucker to get stuck with
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Big deal. I think we've got enough to worry about than to fret over this non story.
Gabby Agbonlahor is not the reason we've become relegation rubbish.
No, but his attitude is symptomatic.
Why because he went out for a beer? Jesus.
No I'm talking about his half arsed apparently struggling to give a fuck, whilst waddling around on the pitch looking like an overgrown mascot that forgot to leave the pitch stinking attitude.
And this from a player who is definitely on "Proper Premier League Wages"
He is symptomatic of far too many players at the club and has been for far too many years.
Keeping players past their best at the club isn't Gabby's fault.
Oh, so there is more to it than just chucking bin bags full of £50 notes at it then?
Look if you're happy to blame our humiliating 6 season decline on a few poor decisions and a bit of bad luck then who am I to argue.
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I appreciate the main reason for our decline is our idiot owner but it's depressing seeing that lazy, fat arsed excuse for a footballer stealing a living and looking like he couldn't give a toss.
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As the French (more or less) say, "you can't keep the butter, and the money, and shag the dairymaid".
... but you can shag the cow. It's not so bad.
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Gabby 's biggest problem is that he hasn't had the dedication to want to reach the very top of his profession...that's why he hasn't. .another case of what could have been
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I think it's the implication that they don't really care about Villa's plight that cuts for me. Gabby's meant to be a Villa fan ain't he? If I was playing for Villa, no fucking chance would I be out partying with the team who just helped keep us bottom of the league in December.
Whatever, go have your social life.
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I'm no sartorial expert by any stretch of the imagination, but some of that clobber them twonks are wearing, you'd be hard pressed to shift in a charity shop.No doubt it costs a fortune as well.
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I don't begrudge footballers getting the odd night off but fucking off out the same night we've been soundly beaten and then socialising with most of the squad of the same fucking side that's beaten us is bound to wind people up and frankly it winds me up. I want that fat prick at the gym working his bollocks off to get fit.
As far as recent weeks go, Ayew can have a day off. The rest can go fuck themselves or better yet, piss off and don't come back. We'll play the yoofs instead.
I will also add that every single player pictured at that nightclub looks like a knobhead. Premier League footballers... ::)
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I think it's the implication that they don't really care about Villa's plight that cuts for me. Gabby's meant to be a Villa fan ain't he? If I was playing for Villa, no fucking chance would I be out partying with the team who just helped keep us bottom of the league in December.
Whatever, go have your social life.
There was a shocking lack of effort by most of the players yesterday and has been most of the season. In fact Gabby has typified this for years now. Just a total and utter lack of any pride in wearing the shirt. Half assed is a generous way to describe his performance levels.
He's Mr Aston Villa. He's the face of the club. If he can get rewarded with new deals for doing shit all, why should he make more effort? In addition if he's setting the benchmark, the rest don't have to do much to do the bare minimum.
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I think it's the implication that they don't really care about Villa's plight that cuts for me. Gabby's meant to be a Villa fan ain't he? If I was playing for Villa, no fucking chance would I be out partying with the team who just helped keep us bottom of the league in December.
Whatever, go have your social life.
There was a shocking lack of effort by most of the players yesterday and has been most of the season. In fact Gabby has typified this for years now. Just a total and utter lack of any pride in wearing the shirt. Half assed is a generous way to describe his performance levels.
He's Mr Aston Villa. He's the face of the club. If he can get rewarded with new deals for doing shit all, why should he make more effort? In addition if he's setting the benchmark, the rest don't have to do much to do the bare minimum.
Agreed Supertom. It just serves to highlight the apparent gulf between the fans and players; we care, they don't.
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I get the feeling that some players at the club think that when we are in trouble the owner will put his hand in his pocket and buy somebody to get us out of it and they can just carry on as normal.
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Let's face it under normal service, it wouldn't particularly matter. Only this is far from normal service and it just doesn't look very good really does it. Similar to after the Cup Final, but, more understandable there.
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I think they missed a trick not inviting Charlie. At least they could have had a good laugh at his clothes.
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No one would care if we were 11th and Gabby had scored 9 in the league.
I would be having "Gabby Agbonlahor, he's bound to score!" tattooed onto my cock
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No one would care if we were 11th and Gabby had scored 9 in the league.
But we aren't. And he hasn't.
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His best days are long over and he needs to move on to a League One/Two club if he wants to kick a ball around for a living.
Hmmm, with his new contract given last season, we will be lucky to see him go for any type of fee in the next few years. Thank you Fox.
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All I could accommodate of that tattoo would be "G ore". Interested voyeurs would be told I love Myra Breckinridge.
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I mentioned this a couple of weeks ago but it's worth repeating. A friend of mine works with someone who is very close to Gabby. Very recently (the days leading up to our home defeat by Watford), Gabby was on holiday in Las Vegas with the club's blessing, whilst he was out injured and supposedly recovering from injury.
My mate also saw photos that Gabby had texted back of a gambling table filled with £40 Grand in chips that Gabby was gambling as he "had nothing else to do all day".
I know that technically he's done nothing wrong, but as club captain and supposedly "one of us", he really pisses me off to be honest.
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Gabby did go to Vegas, apparently warm weather rehabilitation. The fat, fucking simpleton should have been sitting on the bench watching us get twatted again in the freezing cold.
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gabby has never been one of us
all we have ever been is a gravy train as no other club would have stood his for his continual shitness
club captain fuck me i cant think of a worse ambassador or role model for younger players
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I don't care if some pap has snapped a load of scruffy rich twats in the street. However, I do like the casino theme:-
"Flabby Aintgonnascore, les jeux sont faits, rien ne va plus !"
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I think they missed a trick not inviting Charlie. At least they could have had a good laugh at his clothes.
I've got a hunch that Charlie made an appearance at some point during the evening.
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"prance around an expensive night club in a shit hat" That's cheered me up.
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Keeping players past their best at the club isn't Gabby's fault.
Oh, so there is more to it than just chucking bin bags full of £50 notes at it then?
Look if you're happy to blame our humiliating 6 season decline on a few poor decisions and a bit of bad luck then who am I to argue.
I've never said it was bad luck, but poor decisions I'll give you. I just think your point of view is overly simplistic and one dimensional and the kind of thinking that was the reason we ended up in the shit to start with.
Yes the budget has been slashed since. No the budget is nowhere near what it would need to be to expect to compete for top 6 at the moment, but neither is it low enough to expect to be where we are.
From the day Lerner walked through the door the one constant theme has been a bewildering combination of incompetence and naivety. Unfortunately that that also applied to the first 4 years didn't become completely apparent until year 5 when the full extent of the stupidity of some of the contracts (as you so rightly point out) came to light.
Although Harewood, Heskey and 2 complete new back 4 line ups in 2 summers should have set the alarm bells ringing. There's the best part of £100M in transfers and probably the same in wages where for vast chunks of it you might as well have set fire to a few of your bin bags full of £50 notes.
I posted this on several threads last week that you somehow managed to miss so maybe you could do me the honour of indulging me with an answer this time?
Are we in debt to banks like Leeds were?
We could well be, should our current owner not be our owner anymore.
So you're saying that we should be thankful we still have a club irrespective of what league we're in and whatever humiliations he's inflicted onto us?
Did I say that?
But if your defence of Lerner not spending is along the lines of "we could become a Leeds" then I think I'm within my rights to reply. That excuse was churned out when Ellis was in charge, and fans thought nothing of calling for him to borrow money from banks to bankroll spending which actually could have resulted in a Leeds like shitfest. Lerner on the other hand is disgustingly rich, so what's so wrong in fans calling for him to spend some of his riches on the club in our hour of need?
There's a world of difference between spending "in our hour of need" and carrying on regardless over the last 5 years.
I've asked this now at least three times tonight and countless times over the last few months.
I've asked you this before, but I'll try again.
How much do you think Lerner should have continued to invest, bearing that the current tab is north of £250M?
Background info before answering.
Being as you assert that wages are the issue because we won't pay them, maybe take a few seconds to read this.
For 2013-14 season we had the joint (with Everton) 9th highest wage bill (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/apr/29/premier-league-finances-club-by-club)That year Newcastle had the 7th highest, Southampton the 11th highest and Stoke the 16th highest.
1. Abramovich, a man who's worth around 10 times Lerner's personal net worth, put the best part of £1 billion into Chelsea over a 10 year period before pretty much calling a halt. They still spend plenty "net" but it's almost all covered by CL and associated TV income.
2. The Mansoors, who to all intents and purposes have limitless wealth, put the best part of £1.2 billion into Man City over a 5-6 year period before reigning in the chequebook. Again they spend plenty "net" but it's almost all covered by CL and associated TV income.
3. "Enough" or similar isn't an answer. A number be it £1 or £10 billion or anywhere in between.
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I really hope so Chico, it would really give a boost to Charlie's fan club (me and Mr Underhill).
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I really hope so Chico, it would really give a boost to Charlie's fan club (me and Mr Underhill).
I know it was an Arsenal do, but I didn't see Charlie Nicolas there.
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Is it Gabby in the white hat on his phone? If so, am I the only one who thinks it's nothing like him, that chap is white isn't he?
I thought that on first viewing but I assumed that they got more pics of the same guy, looking like he's about to sneeze on every one of them.
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I'm no sartorial expert by any stretch of the imagination, but some of that clobber them twonks are wearing, you'd be hard pressed to shift in a charity shop.No doubt it costs a fortune as well.
Yep. Thousands to spend on a new set of threads each week should they want to and they end up looking like a bunch of tramps.
As for Gabby, I'll say exactly the same as I did about Jack after the Cup Final: if we equate a football club to a business, if I was an employee and I'd just lost out on a major contract to a competitor, I wouldn't particularly want to be out gallivanting with the employees of that competitor. If I was a stakeholder in that business, I'd be f***ing furious that an employee of the company was doing that.
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Not the Flower of Scotland VID, the Shand Kydd Kid, Mr Wallpaper trousers.
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Don't care. Gabby can rock up to the Blues Xmas bash if he wants. What happens on the pitch is what I will get angry at him about.
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Not the Flower of Scotland VID, the Shand Kydd Kid, Mr Wallpaper trousers.
I guess my "Scandinavianised" sarcastic humour doesn't always transmit well through the written word.
It was more a dig at his "I still think I'm 25" appearance. (Or at least that was how was trying to pass himself off the last time I saw him)
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Don't care. Gabby can rock up to the Blues Xmas bash if he wants. What happens on the pitch is what I will get angry at him about.
I will get angry if he gets anywhere near the pitch.
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I think they missed a trick not inviting Charlie. At least they could have had a good laugh at his clothes.
I've got a hunch that Charlie made an appearance at some point during the evening.
Has he still got the car that says 'cock piss' on the side?
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Snore
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Im more bothered with the twat who extended his contract
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Clyne's slippers are nice
;D ;D ;D
His taxi sharer doesn't appear to want to be recognised ?
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Gabby is back from his Californian surfing holiday.
He probably wanted a beer ?
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I think they missed a trick not inviting Charlie. At least they could have had a good laugh at his clothes.
I've got a hunch that Charlie made an appearance at some point during the evening.
Has he still got the car that says 'cock piss' on the side?
I think Chico was talking about a different type of Charlie.
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Apparently we'll "listen to offers" for him in January. Can't help but think they'll struggle to hear anyone willing to take on his fat wage packet.
We could have a whip round on here, I'll throw £20 in the pot as my car could do with a wash.
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There is no chance of getting anyone to take him. Not a prayer.
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There is no chance of getting anyone to take him. Not a prayer.
This is spot on. Maybe we can loan him out to someone who's desparate and not paid attention to his form in years if we pay his wages?
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There's desperate and there's desperate. I mean, we're completely on our arse but he can't get in our team. Aren't we the worst form team in the whole country?
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Apparently we'll "listen to offers" for him in January. Can't help but think they'll struggle to hear anyone willing to take on his fat wage packet.
We could have a whip round on here, I'll throw £20 in the pot as my car could do with a wash.
Glue factory. I imagine you could make a lot of glue from something Gabby's size.
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The Torygraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/aston-villa/12050624/Aston-villa-to-let-Gabby-Agbonlahor-go-after-striker-fails-to-impress-Remi-Garde.html)
Gabby Agbonlahor's time at Aston Villa looks to be up as manager Remi Garde seeks to offload striker in January
Striker, excluded from Villa's matchday squad at the weekend, will likely be moving on from Villa Park in the next transfer window
By John Percy, Midlands Football Correspondent
10:30PM GMT 14 Dec 2015
Gabriel Agbonlahor is fighting to save his Aston Villa career with Remi Garde open to offers for the forward in January.
Agbonlahor is facing an uncertain future under the new Villa manager after he was excluded from the matchday squad for Sunday’s game against Arsenal.
The club’s longest serving player is yet to score this season and Garde dropped him from his plans last weekend after being unimpressed with his performances in training.
Agbonlahor, a former England international, had been suffering with a calf injury and flew to America in October in a bid to cure the problem.
But the 29-year-old has still struggled to impress Garde since the Frenchman’s appointment last month and Villa are prepared to listen to offers when the transfer window reopens.
Garde is understood to have grave concerns over the lack of goals in his squad, admitting they are “not strong enough offensively” and has identified the signing of at least one new forward as a priority.
Agbonlahor could be sacrificed if Villa receive an acceptable offer next month. He came through the youth ranks at his local club before making his debut in 2006 at the age of 19.
Villa are preparing for a pivotal stage of the campaign, with Premier League games against Newcastle, West Ham, Norwich and Sunderland up next, plus an FA Cup tie at League Two club Wycombe Wanderers.
Joleon Lescott, the defender, said: "The points are still there to be won – in order for us to climb out.
"It's very much in our hands. And we know how vital the next run of games is for the club. Everyone in that dressing room is determined to go out and get the maximum points we can.
"You have to relish these games. And it's important to remember they are against teams with the same goal of staying in this league.
"We aim on capitalising on some good results and, in the process, them not getting any points. A good run of results would be big for team spirit."
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who would want to buy him on his wages?
i would let him go on a free
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He will probably end up playing for a club in the prem while we go down.
Is ironic the correct word ?
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He will probably end up playing for a club in the prem while we go down.
Is ironic the correct word ?
No, I would say it should be 'travesty'
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Wolves. Nailed on.
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Sad end to a decent Villa career for Gabby.
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Sad end to a decent Villa career for Gabby.
Booked more times than he's scored in the last 5 seasons. Yeah really decent.
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He will probably end up playing for a club in the prem while we go down.
Is ironic the correct word ?
No, I would say it should be 'travesty'
Can't imagine any Premier League side plucking a non scoring, injury prone forward from a rock bottom club
The only way he's going anywhere is on a free to a Championship club
Ironically I think he would do well in the Championship and would probably end up scoring a hat trick against us playing for Wolves
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Sad end to a decent Villa career for Gabby.
Decent? When I heard some fucking idiot had deemed his half arsed, couldn't give a crap 'performances' of the last 3 years warranted a new lengthy contract it made me angry. He's been far from decent, he can't get in the match day squad of the worst team the Premier League has seen in years. It's not 'sad' at all, it's all his own doing although you'll no doubt blame Lerner for his inability to look like he gives a toss about Aston Villa.
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Fuck him. It's not as if we'd miss him. Dim witted, stupid shit cap wearing waste of a shirt.
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That last contract he was given beggars belief. We were less than a year from getting shot of him. There's just no logic to it.
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Sad end to a decent Villa career for Gabby.
Decent villa career ? Not for me.
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Booked more times than he's scored in the last 5 seasons. Yeah really decent.
If he wasn't already a Villa player, he sounds like the sort of striker we'll end up signing in January
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Sad end to a decent Villa career for Gabby.
Booked more times than he's scored in the last 5 seasons. Yeah really decent.
And yet he's still ahead of Kozak in the pecking order
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Sad end to a decent Villa career for Gabby.
A relevant comment if this was 2010
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He will probably end up playing for a club in the prem while we go down.
Is ironic the correct word ?
No, I would say it should be 'travesty'
Can't imagine any Premier League side plucking a non scoring, injury prone forward from a rock bottom club
The only way he's going anywhere is on a free to a Championship club
Ironically I think he would do well in the Championship and would probably end up scoring a hat trick against us playing for Wolves
This
apart from the Wolves bit
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Sad end to a decent Villa career for Gabby.
A relevant comment if this was 2010
True, but not many have scored more than 67 league goals for us. I'm not going to dismiss that so easily.
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73 goals in 315 appearances according to Wiki.
1 goal in nearly every 4 and half games.
Get shot. That is no way good enough for a top flight side.
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Scored plenty of goals when we had decent wingers like Young, Downing, Milner etc in the team. He's past his best no doubt about that but our decline is down to us replacing our best players with shit ones, so it's no wonder his goals dried up.
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The thing is I just know or rather I have a very strong feeling that he will go somewhere still in the PL - a Norwich or someone and score goals or at least give them a lift.
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I'm in agreement with saunders_heroes. I have too many fond memories of his contributions over the years to be totally dismissive of him but that the club captain and longest serving player has become probably the greatest example of the malaise at Villa Park, certainly in playing terms, is very sad indeed.
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The thing is I just know or rather I have a very strong feeling that he will go somewhere still in the PL - a Norwich or someone and score goals or at least give them a lift.
That's what I'm thinking too.
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Sad end to a decent Villa career for Gabby.
Decent? When I heard some fucking idiot had deemed his half arsed, couldn't give a crap 'performances' of the last 3 years warranted a new lengthy contract it made me angry. He's been far from decent, he can't get in the match day squad of the worst team the Premier League has seen in years. It's not 'sad' at all, it's all his own doing although you'll no doubt blame Lerner for his inability to look like he gives a toss about Aston Villa.
Able to dine out on goals scored v Blosers ans Bitters times ago.
He was more than decent for 4-5 years a lot of time. The last 4-5 years he has been largely ineffective. The last 2 woeful.
Should never been given a new contract.
Hope we can get a mug punter to take a punt on him. Can we get Redknapp a temporary job somewhere.
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I don't think Gabby will be easily shifted, with the remaining time on his contract he can afford to sit it out. I think for whatever reason ,he has been hugely disappointing for us over the last few seasons. The speed which was his major asset is diminishing ,it would be a shame if he stayed with us and became a figure of redicule.
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Sad end to a decent Villa career for Gabby.
A relevant comment if this was 2010
True, but not many have scored more than 67 league goals for us. I'm not going to dismiss that so easily.
For a forward player in 9 seasons+ it's not that great.
And a total of 33 goals (all comps) in the last 5.5 season is fucking rubbish.
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I don't think Gabby will be easily shifted, with the remaining time on his contract he can afford to sit it out. I think for whatever reason ,he has been hugely disappointing for us over the last few seasons. The speed which was his major asset is diminishing ,it would be a shame if he stayed with us and became a figure of redicule.
He is likely to stay and is already a figure of dismay
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I don't think Gabby will be easily shifted, with the remaining time on his contract he can afford to sit it out. I think for whatever reason ,he has been hugely disappointing for us over the last few seasons. The speed which was his major asset is diminishing ,it would be a shame if he stayed with us and became a figure of redicule.
He is likely to stay and is already a figure of dismay
The whole squad are figures of dismay.
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If we were Spurs we'd be taking £8m off somebody. As usual we'll end up paying his wages while he plays elsewhere.
He's been a good player if inconsistent.
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I've been to many of our rival companies Christmas parties.
I still think they're twats but you can't beat having a free pint at someone else's expense.
same as that mate- been to a few also and when I was searching for a job desperately July to September it was someone from one of those companies who rang me
And offered me a gig
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I tell you what else boiled my piss on Sunday: that bloody bad santa video with the players. Cos nothing captures the mood at half time than having the money-grabbing, pitch-jogging f*ckwits squealing with laughter through the Holte End tannoy system.
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73 goals in 315 appearances according to Wiki.
1 goal in nearly every 4 and half games.
Get shot. That is no way good enough for a top flight side.
And he's got into double figures three times, the last time being 2009/10. In the five years since then, he's scored 27 in 154 - one in 5.7. Not good enough
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If we were Spurs we'd be taking £8m off somebody. As usual we'll end up paying his wages while he plays elsewhere.
He's been a good player if inconsistent.
He's been consistently crap for 2 years. He has consistently underachieved for 5.
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In the Independent today it's reported that Garde is considering selling Gabby, "in order to generate funds for the January transfer window." Do you laugh or cry?
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In the Independent today it's reported that Garde is considering selling Gabby, "in order to generate funds for the January transfer window." Do you laugh or cry?
Neither, you just take the 50p and run.
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In the Independent today it's reported that Garde is considering selling Gabby, "in order to generate funds for the January transfer window." Do you laugh or cry?
Neither, you just take the 50p and run.
A copy of The Independent is about all we could expect in return for Gabby.
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Agree with you completely exigo. I thought I was the only one chewing my seat when those silly fuckers were behaving like laughing hyenas. As the truly, deeply wonderful and late lamented Cupid Stunt would say doing a panoramic crotch shot - all in the best possible taste.
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Not a foreign player on show either in the Santa video. But there is definitely no split in the dressing room. Oh no.
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In reference to the National Express comment- this is Lerner we are talking about, surely it would have been megabus.com
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If gabby is put up for sale I can definitely see the top clubs in Europe coming in for him
Pacha
Cream
Ministry of sound
Libertys
Peppermint place
Rum runner
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With the current people running the club if Gabby is put up for sale , we'd probably end up buying him
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With the current people running the club if Gabby is put up for sale , we'd probably end up buying him
Depends what version of football manager Paddy uses. Lerner probably hasn't bought a new copy since 2010/11.
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If gabby is put up for sale I can definitely see the top clubs in Europe coming in for him
Pacha
Cream
Ministry of sound
Libertys
Peppermint place
Rum runner
Genuinely funny.
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Agree with you completely exigo. I thought I was the only one chewing my seat when those silly fuckers were behaving like laughing hyenas. As the truly, deeply wonderful and late lamented Cupid Stunt would say doing a panoramic crotch shot - all in the best possible taste.
Good call Brian. And I always knew that oleaginous scouse Cupid Stunt was a wrong un long before his infamous Tory Party Conference appearance.
It will be interesting to hear the fans' reaction to any PR Merry Christmas bullshit on Boxing Day if we don't put in a convincing performance. They can shove it up their fundament. Sideways.
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Only three months to go before it will be a full year since this waste of space scored last. He'll still be here past January... he's our local hero, Villa legend.
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If we were Spurs we'd be taking £8m off somebody. As usual we'll end up paying his wages while he plays elsewhere.
He's been a good player if inconsistent.
He's been consistently crap for 2 years. He has consistently underachieved for 5.
He's past his best, I completely agree. A bit like the kind of player spurs sell for £8m, which was my point really. We seem incapable of selling this type of player, which is why I fully expect him to be playing with the reserves for 18 months or loaned out with us paying most of his wages.
He has been a good / effective player in the past.
To be honest, I can't see how he'd be any worse than Gestede.
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I heard Lerner paid for his National Express ticket.
Rather aptly many would say, The Divine Comedy song of that name contains the lines:
But it's hard to get by
When your arse is the size
Of a small country
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If we were Spurs we'd be taking £8m off somebody. As usual we'll end up paying his wages while he plays elsewhere.
He's been a good player if inconsistent.
He's been consistently crap for 2 years. He has consistently underachieved for 5.
He's past his best, I completely agree. A bit like the kind of player spurs sell for £8m, which was my point really. We seem incapable of selling this type of player, which is why I fully expect him to be playing with the reserves for 18 months or loaned out with us paying most of his wages.
He has been a good / effective player in the past.
To be honest, I can't see how he'd be any worse than Gestede.
He's not but we could probably move Jushede on for around £3m, who is going to pay £3m for Gabby + his huge wages?
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A wild shot, but might we offload him onto Birmingham's new national sperm bank? At least they could guarantee some end product from him.
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In the Independent today it's reported that Garde is considering selling Gabby, "in order to generate funds for the January transfer window." Do you laugh or cry?
First laugh then cry.
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The thing is I just know or rather I have a very strong feeling that he will go somewhere still in the PL - a Norwich or someone and score goals or at least give them a lift.
Yes let's send him to Norwich and get revenge for Grant Holt.
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Fuck him. It's not as if we'd miss him. Dim witted, stupid shit cap wearing waste of a shirt.
A very apt description of current Gabby Nik.
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Perhaps it will be America.He seems to spend a fair amount of time there.
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Sad end to a decent Villa career for Gabby.
Booked more times than he's scored in the last 5 seasons. Yeah really decent.
And yet he's still ahead of Kozak in the pecking order
That is something Kozak needs to think about.
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No one would care if we were 11th and Gabby had scored 9 in the league.
I would be having "Gabby Agbonlahor, he's bound to score!" tattooed onto my cock
How?
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In the Independent today it's reported that Garde is considering selling Gabby, "in order to generate funds for the January transfer window." Do you laugh or cry?
First laugh then cry.
I'm hoping and praying that's absolute bollocks.
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Never certain he is or was a Villa fan . as young lad playing in the central warwicks league for a Redditch side . he was pretty uninspiring . quick yes . there was a kid for coldlands colts called Scott who was quicker for sure . they were very simliar .
Gabby caught the eye of McAndrew and the die was csst .
He was quick and his headed goal at St Andrews was a great moment . he made a good living out of it . fair play but was always ordinary other than pace
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Never certain he is or was a Villa fan . as young lad playing in the central warwicks league for a Redditch side . he was pretty uninspiring . quick yes . there was a kid for coldlands colts called Scott who was quicker for sure . they were very simliar .
Gabby caught the eye of McAndrew and the die was csst .
He was quick and his headed goal at St Andrews was a great moment . he made a good living out of it . fair play but was always ordinary other than pace
well documented he was an arsenal fan as a kid
so gabby what has made you so loyal to aston villa the team that made you a multi millionaire
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Multi millionaire he may well be. How long he remains one bearing in mind his destinations of choice are Las Vegas and the knickers of high maintenance women remains to be seen. Skint by forty looks on the cards.
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I still cannot believe he was given a four year contract by Lambert and Fox.Even two years would have been excessive. But at last we have a manager who can see him and others for w.hat they are.In fact I like everything about Remi Garde except his results
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Nailed it for me Ron. Like everything about Remi Garde but his results. You are not Darren Woolley in disguise are you Ron?
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as young lad playing in the central warwicks league for a Redditch side . he was pretty uninspiring .
Gabby played for a team from Redditch?
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he's eaten bigger pies than Redditch
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as young lad playing in the central warwicks league for a Redditch side . he was pretty uninspiring .
Maybe we can sell him to Redditch United?
Gabby played for a team from Redditch?
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Nailed it for me Ron. Like everything about Remi Garde but his results. You are not Darren Woolley in disguise are you Ron?
agree. He's had a pretty tough run of games to start with, the next month and half will be more telling
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Not sure if it's true or not but i've just seen on twitter that if Gabby leaves in January the villa player with the most premier league goals will be... Ciaran Clark with 6 goals!
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...now that is embarrassing.
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Exchange Gabby for the Galatasaray goalie..he has to go abroad..broaden horiOn. More to world than Aston Cross.
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Nailed it for me Ron. Like everything about Remi Garde but his results. You are not Darren Woolley in disguise are you Ron?
Unfortunately not BG. Darrens far too intelligent to be mistaken for me!
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Not sure if it's true or not but i've just seen on twitter that if Gabby leaves in January the villa player with the most premier league goals will be... Ciaran Clark with 6 goals!
it's a stupid stat though because we sold Benteke in the summer. It's like saying if Harry Kane left Spurs and then they went and sold the next highest scorer at the club, how many goals would the next highest scorer after that have? I bet it wouldn't be anything impressive.
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Fuck him. It's not as if we'd miss him. Dim witted, stupid shit cap wearing waste of a shirt.
A very apt description of current Gabby Nik.
Haha. Hello Aftab, maybe I'm being a bit harsh judging him, but his lack of effort has gotten to me over the last few years. He used to be so exciting and fast, chasing, dangerous.
Who knows, maybe he'll pop up and score the winner on Saturday!
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Not sure if it's true or not but i've just seen on twitter that if Gabby leaves in January the villa player with the most premier league goals will be... Ciaran Clark with 6 goals!
Surely Scott Sinclair has scored more than Clark in the Premier League? Maybe not much more but surely more!
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Not sure if it's true or not but i've just seen on twitter that if Gabby leaves in January the villa player with the most premier league goals will be... Ciaran Clark with 6 goals!
Surely Scott Sinclair has scored more than Clark in the Premier League? Maybe not much more but surely more!
N'Zogbia has scored more top flight goals too. But let's not let facts get in the way of a good rant.
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Good that sounds like the last of Gabby to me. I don't see him outlasting this manager.
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Are we taking bets on who will be photographed out on this piss after this weekends defeat yet? I'm throwing out there Micah Richards on the lash at the Man City crimbo knees up.
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Brad Guzan in the Hare and Hounds with Bella Emberg.
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Not sure if it's true or not but i've just seen on twitter that if Gabby leaves in January the villa player with the most premier league goals will be... Ciaran Clark with 6 goals!
Surely Scott Sinclair has scored more than Clark in the Premier League? Maybe not much more but surely more!
N'Zogbia has scored more top flight goals too. But let's not let facts get in the way of a good rant.
Not for Villa he ain't which I think is what ez means in his post
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Not sure if it's true or not but i've just seen on twitter that if Gabby leaves in January the villa player with the most premier league goals will be... Ciaran Clark with 6 goals!
Surely Scott Sinclair has scored more than Clark in the Premier League? Maybe not much more but surely more!
N'Zogbia has scored more top flight goals too. But let's not let facts get in the way of a good rant.
Not for Villa he ain't which I think is what ez means in his post
Yes. I should have said that.
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Are we taking bets on who will be photographed out on this piss after this weekends defeat yet? I'm throwing out there Micah Richards on the lash at the Man City crimbo knees up.
Chuck N'Zogbia in a ruff, tunic, tights, cod-piece and Jimmy Choo crampons downing white wine spritzers from a thermos flask outside the ladies' in the Square Peg. Definitely.
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Are we taking bets on who will be photographed out on this piss after this weekends defeat yet? I'm throwing out there Micah Richards on the lash at the Man City crimbo knees up.
Chuck N'Zogbia in a ruff, tunic, tights, cod-piece and Jimmy Choo crampons downing white wine spritzers from a thermos flask outside the ladies' in the Square Peg. Definitely.
It's surprising how easy it is to picture that.
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A western style saloon where the barman slides cold beers the length of the bar, Brad Guzan stood at the end next to a pile of Broken Glasses.
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Are we taking bets on who will be photographed out on this piss after this weekends defeat yet? I'm throwing out there Micah Richards on the lash at the Man City crimbo knees up.
Charles N'Zogbia caught shopping for some new psychedelic pyjamas in Dubai on Saturday evening?
Scott Sinclair caught in a bar running around pointlessly, banging into doors and tables with his hair on fire?
Alan Hutton eating a glass sandwich?
Rudi Gestede trying to eat pizza off his head?
I could go on but the only thing I want to see and more importantly expect to see this weekend is about a Villa win. If we can't beat a poxy little waste of space club like Newcastle, we deserve to go down.
3-0 Villa (Sinclair, Hutton & N'Zogbia)
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Beat Newcastle and the whole squad can get absolutely bladdered if they want. If we lose then lock them inside bodymoor heath and have them all pelted with turds.
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No bars or nightclubs. A PR club promotion of the players in party hats around a festive table. Brad Guzan pushing a Christmas cracker.
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So it doesn't take much reading between the lines to realise that players like Gabby haven't taken too kindly to the new training methods imposed by Garde, and have been playing their faces up about it. I am not sure whether Garde calling them out publicly is going to help, there will be a little clique of English players at the club who may well rally around and create divisions. Chuff knows what's going on down Bodymoor at the moment, but this from the Mail is pretty clear:
Gabby Agbonlahor’s Aston Villa future could be in doubt after boss Remi Garde admitted to a ‘disagreement’ with the club captain.
The 29-year-old was left out of the squad last week and is facing a fight to regain his place ahead of Saturday’s trip to Newcastle.
Garde insists none of his players have asked to leave in January but concedes that he will look to offload any individuals who are not fully committed to the cause.
Villa will listen to offers for Agbonlahor but the manager was quick to play down talk that he doesn’t trust the long-serving forward.
“It’s more than Gabby’s (individual) case - every player has the possibility twice in the year to come to the manager and say ‘I don’t feel you trust me, I don’t feel well anymore',
“For Gabby and the rest of the team, when you change manager and the way of working, maybe suddenly you don’t feel comfortable.
“I’m not saying that about Gabby especially. It will be the same for every player.
“I want to trust my player and for my players to trust me and how we try to play and win games,
“I feel the trust is there for the moment, When a player is not selected in the team, like Gabby last week, obviously it creates a disagreement.
“Sometimes disagreements or mistake in life are not definitive.
“Sometimes you learn from that. You can have a discussion and have a new start. It can match or it can not match, I don’t know.”
Asked whether Agbonlahor must buy into Garde’s vision or find himself a new club, the manager replied:
“No. I understand what you’re asking, but don’t create a situation that doesn’t exist at the moment. The situation is clear with Gabby.
“As I told you, for Gabby or another player, maybe they will not see what we’re doing or where we’re going. I don’t know.
“I don’t feel that at all with players. It’s not the time. We have a huge game on Saturday and then next three after that will be important.
“I am proud that no-one has come to me and asked to leave in January.
“Maybe it will happen.
“It will be the time to do that because after that I will need players totally committed with me, and me with my players.”
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Fuck Agbonlahor. I am sick of manager's tip toeing around this prick. Get rid.
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See ya Gabby! Enjoy life at the Dingles!
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I think we're stuck with him. He'll become our Winston Bogarde.
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I think he might just about make it as a Championship player. On balance, hang on to him.
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I think this shows just how deep the problems are that Remi is having to deal with. I think the comparison to the Houlier era and player bust ups are accurate.
It will take January and the summer to clear the air and I hope the Club back the Manager.
Sadly it will be too late for this season.
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You know what that is all about don't you? Remi has asked him to get on the scales and he has refused.
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It is funny how he seems to have fallen out, straight away, with our two more cerebral managers.
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It's wrong to speculate I know, but I wonder if because he's so used to walking straight back into the side after an injury that he didn't like it very much that he didn't even make the squad last week?
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I reckon he was asked if he could possibly manage to get into double figures for touches of the ball in future matches and kick offs don't count.
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We need Remi to clear out the garbage that has been dragging us down for years. Clearly Gabby is part of this problem.
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Are we taking bets on who will be photographed out on this piss after this weekends defeat yet? I'm throwing out there Micah Richards on the lash at the Man City crimbo knees up.
Chuck N'Zogbia in a ruff, tunic, tights, cod-piece and Jimmy Choo crampons downing white wine spritzers from a thermos flask outside the ladies' in the Square Peg. Definitely.
It's surprising how easy it is to picture that.
In the Square Peg - definitely!!
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He had a few private Twitter accounts and I managed to get into one of them. He stated quite clearly he wouldn't move anywhere on less money. He'll sit out his contract with us all the way.
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He's fast becoming one of my least favourite footballers.
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Garde's right to highlight him if he's a bit shit and being unprofessional about it...and we all know that he is!
I'd almost forgotten he was still with us.
What a waste of money and potential!
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Gabby will be involved tomorrow, or next week, and will breathe life into our already doomed campaign. yes, I am being serious. He'll get his mojo back.
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Gabby will be involved tomorrow, or next week, and will breathe life into our already doomed campaign. yes, I am being serious. He'll get his mojo back.
I'm not hopeful but he fucking better, the fat git.
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Gabby will be involved tomorrow, or next week, and will breathe life into our already doomed campaign. yes, I am being serious. He'll get his mojo back.
A bit like last season, there is a part of me that thinks he might show up for 5-6 games to give us a chance of avoiding relegation.
But then I think back to his "performance" at Tottenham, some of his former English team mates laughing at him at half time...
and I think we are best off without him
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Can the Mods do the word thing and automatically replace "Gabby" with Bad English's excellent "Flabby Aintgonnascore"?
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Agbonlahor is a fat, lazy disgrace and should have his contract paid up and be sent on his way.
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He's fast becoming one of my least favourite footballers.
He's got some good competition in our squad alone.
I'm really chuffing well starting to despise football and it sickens me that there's so few players in our squad I feel I can get behind.
What's funny is, one of the few players I'm liking right now is Ayew, who came with a bit of a reputation, but to be fair to the lad, he gives his all and it seems to matter to him whether we win or lose. It looks like it hurts him when we play so poorly and don't get results. He's got pride and I like him because of it.
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Agbonlahor is a fat, lazy disgrace and should have his contract paid up and be sent on his way.
definately
unless we terminate his contract he is going nowhere
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What's funny is, one of the few players I'm liking right now is Ayew, who came with a bit of a reputation, but to be fair to the lad, he gives his all and it seems to matter to him whether we win or lose. It looks like it hurts him when we play so poorly and don't get results. He's got pride and I like him because of it.
Absolutely agree on this.
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Can't be bothered to check, but is there any evidence that his form used to spike prior to a new contract being negotiated?
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Agbonlahor is a fat, lazy disgrace and should have his contract paid up and be sent on his way.
definately
unless we terminate his contract he is going nowhere
As Agbonlahor is probably a millionaire anyway and doesn't want to move from his local patch it will suit him to sit on his contract for the next three years turning out for the stiffs. In the end they will get fed up of him and make a decision to pay him up and get him out of the club.
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A lot of vitriol on here for Agbonlahor. He's a bit past it, but that's it really. I understand the frustration, but really, the daggers are a little over the top.
I remember a player who scored important goals in the (relative) good times and a few besides.
Is he worse than Gestede? Fuck no.
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Gabby is dog shit. Get rid.
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Succinct analysis there paulthevillain.
Shall we carry on playing Gestede up top?
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Due to body mass expansion of alarming proportions, we can forget about his pace.
However, there is much to be said for his sumo wrestling skills in the box, particularly from dead balls, which are part and parcel of the BPL. This should not be overlooked, and is not trivial. Apart from taking a defender out by blocking them off with his prodigious girth, with a moderate run he could form a mini solar eclipse and leave a couple of them in the dark, functioning like a not so small moon.
And again, although the tippy tappy tenedency are in denial on this physical aspect of our game, I would not fancy the chances of a defender who is stupid enough to let slack jawed fellow get them in an an arm lock, because they will be needing treatment for dislocation or damaged tendons.
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Succinct analysis there paulthevillain.
Shall we carry on playing Gestede up top?
No.
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Due to body mass expansion of alarming proportions, we can forget about his pace.
However, there is much to be said for his sumo wrestling skills in the box, particularly from dead balls, which are part and parcel of the BPL. This should not be overlooked, and is not trivial. Apart from taking a defender out by blocking them off with his prodigious girth, with a moderate run he could form a mini solar eclipse and leave a couple of them in the dark, functioning like a not so small moon.
And again, although the tippy tappy tenedency are in denial on this physical aspect of our game, I would not fancy the chances of a defender who is stupid enough to let slack jawed fellow get them in an an arm lock, because they will be needing treatment for dislocation or damaged tendons.
Gabby has more yellow cards than goals in the last 5 seasons. His only weapon is his back side, which he spends pushing into defenders. Then standing there with his mouth open (as always) when a foul is awarded against him. Thick fucker has robbed a living. At least it's kept him out of prison.
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Due to body mass expansion of alarming proportions, we can forget about his pace.
However, there is much to be said for his sumo wrestling skills in the box, particularly from dead balls, which are part and parcel of the BPL. This should not be overlooked, and is not trivial. Apart from taking a defender out by blocking them off with his prodigious girth, with a moderate run he could form a mini solar eclipse and leave a couple of them in the dark, functioning like a not so small moon.
And again, although the tippy tappy tenedency are in denial on this physical aspect of our game, I would not fancy the chances of a defender who is stupid enough to let slack jawed fellow get them in an an arm lock, because they will be needing treatment for dislocation or damaged tendons.
Gabby has more yellow cards than goals in the last 5 seasons. His only weapon is his back side, which he spends pushing into defenders. Then standing there with his mouth open (as always) when a foul is awarded against him. Thick fucker has robbed a living. At least it's kept him out of prison.
You clearly don't like him very much. But prison? What do you know about him that would give you that impression?
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Agbonlahor is a fat, lazy disgrace and should have his contract paid up and be sent on his way.
definately
unless we terminate his contract he is going nowhere
As Agbonlahor is probably a millionaire anyway and doesn't want to move from his local patch it will suit him to sit on his contract for the next three years turning out for the stiffs. In the end they will get fed up of him and make a decision to pay him up and get him out of the club.
agree totally
cant see a prem team coming in for him and if he is going to drop down to the championship that would mean a 50% drop in wages which he wont go for.
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Agbonlahor is a fat, lazy disgrace and should have his contract paid up and be sent on his way.
definately
unless we terminate his contract he is going nowhere
Hiddink has told Chelsea to buy him an English striker in January, with Leicester forward Jamie Vardy, 28 and West Brom's Saido Berahino, 22, top of his list
Nailed on.
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Succinct analysis there paulthevillain.
Shall we carry on playing Gestede up top?
No.
Yes if the choice is Gestede or Agbonlahor.
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Come on Gabby. Prove the bastards wrong, son.
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Come on Gabby. Prove the bastards wrong, son.
I have no idea if he's terminally 'gone' but he still, just about, has some credit in the bank with me and I would love it if he did start to turn it on, even just for a few months.
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All he will be turning on is his iPhone to check his balance.
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Due to body mass expansion of alarming proportions, we can forget about his pace.
However, there is much to be said for his sumo wrestling skills in the box, particularly from dead balls, which are part and parcel of the BPL. This should not be overlooked, and is not trivial. Apart from taking a defender out by blocking them off with his prodigious girth, with a moderate run he could form a mini solar eclipse and leave a couple of them in the dark, functioning like a not so small moon.
And again, although the tippy tappy tenedency are in denial on this physical aspect of our game, I would not fancy the chances of a defender who is stupid enough to let slack jawed fellow get them in an an arm lock, because they will be needing treatment for dislocation or damaged tendons.
Gabby has more yellow cards than goals in the last 5 seasons. His only weapon is his back side, which he spends pushing into defenders. Then standing there with his mouth open (as always) when a foul is awarded against him. Thick fucker has robbed a living. At least it's kept him out of prison.
You clearly don't like him very much. But prison? What do you know about him that would give you that impression?
I agree. That sort of comment is well out of order.
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Come on Gabby. Prove the bastards wrong, son.
I have no idea if he's terminally 'gone' but he still, just about, has some credit in the bank with me and I would love it if he did start to turn it on, even just for a few months.
Me too. He's past his best, no question, but he's not the architect of Villa's downfall so I'm not going to scapegoat him for it. That blame lays at the chairman's door.
I'd love him to prove everyone wrong.
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I think he's past his best and has been for a while but i'd keep him until the end of the season then let him go.
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Me too. He's past his best, no question, but he's not the architect of Villa's downfall so I'm not going to scapegoat him for it. That blame lays at the chairman's door.
I'd love him to prove everyone wrong.
I think he will just give his usual a hundredth of ten per cent effort and I want to bet against you saunders.
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Due to body mass expansion of alarming proportions, we can forget about his pace.
However, there is much to be said for his sumo wrestling skills in the box, particularly from dead balls, which are part and parcel of the BPL. This should not be overlooked, and is not trivial. Apart from taking a defender out by blocking them off with his prodigious girth, with a moderate run he could form a mini solar eclipse and leave a couple of them in the dark, functioning like a not so small moon.
And again, although the tippy tappy tenedency are in denial on this physical aspect of our game, I would not fancy the chances of a defender who is stupid enough to let slack jawed fellow get them in an an arm lock, because they will be needing treatment for dislocation or damaged tendons.
Gabby has more yellow cards than goals in the last 5 seasons. His only weapon is his back side, which he spends pushing into defenders. Then standing there with his mouth open (as always) when a foul is awarded against him. Thick fucker has robbed a living. At least it's kept him out of prison.
You clearly don't like him very much. But prison? What do you know about him that would give you that impression?
I agree. That sort of comment is well out of order.
Ok, maybe he wouldn't have ended up in prison. ;)
On the dole? I think so. ;D
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Come on Gabby. Prove the bastards wrong, son.
He is due one of his 3 good games a season.
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When he next scores, which by my calculations will be in April (not prepared to commit to a year), he will do that finger to the mouth 'celebration' as an answer to his critics.
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I don't think anyone is using Flabby Aintgonnascore as a scapegoat. Just correctly stating how massively shit he is.
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Due to body mass expansion of alarming proportions, we can forget about his pace.
However, there is much to be said for his sumo wrestling skills in the box, particularly from dead balls, which are part and parcel of the BPL. This should not be overlooked, and is not trivial. Apart from taking a defender out by blocking them off with his prodigious girth, with a moderate run he could form a mini solar eclipse and leave a couple of them in the dark, functioning like a not so small moon.
And again, although the tippy tappy tenedency are in denial on this physical aspect of our game, I would not fancy the chances of a defender who is stupid enough to let slack jawed fellow get them in an an arm lock, because they will be needing treatment for dislocation or damaged tendons.
Sadly Gabby isn't even good for that. Two goals conceded at home v spurs last season, one was down to Gabby letting his mind wander and presenting a barrier as tough as the skin off a rice pudding whilst the guy he was marking got a virtually free header. The second goal came directly from him not tracking back on a runner from midfield. He's still arguably marginally more useful (or marginally less useless) than having a lamp post up front until/unless Garde wants to play to Gestede's only strength and start pumping non-stop high balls in.
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As I have said before on here, he isn't helping himself, but by a strange culmination of events, he is probably still one of our only small ray of hopes of actually getting out of this mess. And you just know that if he departs and ends up at Norwich he will start turning it on to our detriment.
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I think the one thing you can say in Gabby's defence this season, is he was playing up front in the only game where we looked genuinely dangerous and slick going forward - Leicester away. He ran the channels well and brought Gil and Grealish into the game that day.
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Gabby currently makes Simon Stainrod look like a caring grafter
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He is Villa through and through you know.
Fucking shite!
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None story who cares? ::)
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He's not hit double figures in the league for 6 seasons. When someone with that scoring record as well as performances is one of your top wages earners, then something has gone very very wrong with the club employing him. He should have been let go to a middling championship side 3 years ago which ironically where he'll probably be next season.
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The annoying thing is, if Gabby can respond in the manner he should, and work his bollocks off to get back into the side and maintain his place, then he's probably the best option at CF right now. Now granted he won't score goals but at the very least we could possibly get him in a sort of Heskey role. He's strong and whereas Gestede is just too immobile, that's not a problem for Gabby. He's also Bergkampesque on the ball compared to Rudy.
I would be inclined in the Everton game to play him in the middle in the hope that he can offer some presence in the middle and do some donkey work and let Ayew shine and provide the spark and goals.
He's absolutely in last chance saloon though. His attitude and workrate have been fucking atrocious. He owes us a massive turnaround in performance. We've probably got a good 5-6 games before we'll see a striker coming in (if we even do). Gabby should be moving heaven and earth to salvage his Villa career. My gut feeling though is that he'll have a sulk like he did under Houllier and not respond well to being challenged to move his fucking arse like Gerard did.
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I'd take a half soaked, injured and couldn't be arsed Gabby every day over Scott Sinclair.
At least we know only one has at least a minuscule of talent and makes Gabby look like Einstein.
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I'd take a half soaked, injured and couldn't be arsed Gabby every day over Scott Sinclair.
At least we know only one has at least a minuscule of talent and makes Gabby look like Einstein.
And yet it would seem that Rémi does not share your opinion on this most crucial of issues. This must surely be a grave cause for concern, and the question arises: "Was Timmah right all along and Gabby, if not a Man For All Seasons, was at least the man for this season.
We will never know, because Gabby is in The Black Book and his days are numbered. Cynical supporters are muttering darkly about Brummies being unable to speak slowly without falling asleep.
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I'm sorry, but Gabby has spent nearly all of our previous struggles against relegation doing fuck all so why would now be any different?
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Due to body mass expansion of alarming proportions, we can forget about his pace.
However, there is much to be said for his sumo wrestling skills in the box, particularly from dead balls, which are part and parcel of the BPL. This should not be overlooked, and is not trivial. Apart from taking a defender out by blocking them off with his prodigious girth, with a moderate run he could form a mini solar eclipse and leave a couple of them in the dark, functioning like a not so small moon.
And again, although the tippy tappy tenedency are in denial on this physical aspect of our game, I would not fancy the chances of a defender who is stupid enough to let slack jawed fellow get them in an an arm lock, because they will be needing treatment for dislocation or damaged tendons.
Gabby has more yellow cards than goals in the last 5 seasons. His only weapon is his back side, which he spends pushing into defenders. Then standing there with his mouth open (as always) when a foul is awarded against him. Thick fucker has robbed a living. At least it's kept him out of prison.
You clearly don't like him very much. But prison? What do you know about him that would give you that impression?
I think Paul is a policeman. He may ''know' things that we don't.
(Just messin')
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I can't take anyone called Bogdan seriously. I keep seeing Walter White's car wash owner in my head.
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I can't take anyone called Bogdan seriously. I keep seeing Walter White's car wash owner in my head.
Is being called Bogdan worse than being called Pooldan? And is this the wrong thread?
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Fuck everything and its eyebrows! You are right. Soz! Muli-tab H&V browsing and posting fail.
Pooldan was as full of shit as Bogdan, so draw there.
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Fuck everything and its eyebrows! You are right. Soz! Muli-tab H&V browsing and posting fail.
Pooldan was as full of shit as Bogdan, so draw there.
I went to language school over here with someone called Bogdan. He was from eastern Ukraine and without doubt the scariest individual I've ever met.