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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Smirker on November 21, 2015, 02:00:32 PM
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Team news: Everton v Villa - Guzan, Hutton, Richards, Clark, Richardson, Gana, Westwood, Veretout, Gil, Grealish, Ayew.
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Team news: Everton v Villa subs - Bunn, Bacuna, Sinclair, Lescott, Sanchez, N’Zogbia, Gestede.
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Would have preferred Sanchez to Westwood, but let's see.
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Westwood must practice well or Garde has found a way to use him more effectively. Still he's certainly not hiding and with Jack back in hopefully that will create chances. Still, no Kozak or Traore.
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not impressed with westwood starting over sanchez
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Kozak does not exist. He is merely a figment of our collective imaginations
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That's quite an attacking line-up.
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Attacking team that. Come on Villa.
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not impressed with westwood starting over sanchez
Westy has already compiled his dossier of dirt on the new manager ;)
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My guess is with Sanchez is that he's been rested due to his international commitments.
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Thought Carlos did well last week. Maybe its down to his travels in the week ?
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Oddly most of the players he picks are ones people on here have been calling for.
Westwood probably not so much.
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Beat me to it TV.
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Day of Judgement for Westwood.
Overall, that is pretty much the team many of us have been asking for, so today's the day we find out how stupid we are.
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Carlos would be one of the first names on my Villa team sheet but it looks like have a third manager who might have him in and out of the team.
He might be knackered from international commitments but I am sure I read that he was suspended for the second match so didn't play.
It might be that Garde had Gana, Veretout and Westwood there to work with so that's his thinking.
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Very attack-minded. Or so it seems.
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Kozak does not exist. He is merely a figment of our collective imaginations
Pictures of him training on the OS and before the last match must be struggling to impress.
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not impressed with westwood starting over sanchez
Westy has already compiled his dossier of dirt on the new manager ;)
Gabby probably emailed him a copy.
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My guess is with Sanchez is that he's been rested due to his international commitments.
He tends to miss the first game after an international break because of all the travelling. They must make an assessment and decide that he's too close to the 'red zone' (as they call it). It's happened under multiple managers now so can't be a coincidence. At least Westwood and Veretout will have been having Garde's coaching and will know the shape, tactics etc.
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To be fair to the continual non-picking of Kozak, he did break his leg twice and there's no telling how that has affected him mentally even if he is fully physically fit, which I'm not even sure he is.
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SCORE GOALS.
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Would have preferred Sanchez to Westwood, but let's see.
Has Sanchez been on international duty?
Regardless it's another solid/balanced selection unlike the puzzles Sherwood selected at the end of his reign.
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Would have preferred Sanchez to Westwood, but let's see.
Has Sanchez been on international duty?
Regardless it's another solid/balanced selection unlike the puzzles Sherwood selected at the end of his reign.
Sanchez played last weekend and got booked meaning he missed their midweek game through suspension. Assuming he was probably still required to watch the game with the team rather than being allowed to return to Brum early but not sure.
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SCORE GOALS.
DON'T CONCEDE?
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not impressed with westwood starting over sanchez
However if successive football coaches are picking him ilo of Sanchez I am assuming that they know more than we do on here.
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SCORE GOALS.
DON'T CONCEDE?
or score one more than concede.
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If Sherwood was still in charge, the sight of Westwood in the lineup might have caused me to simply not bother with the game.
As it is, I'll give Remi a chance, he trusts Westwood to do a job, so we shall see.
Good luck lads!
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Garde has talked a lot about the importance of training the team in his ways of doing things. With Sanchez gone for most of the last two weeks, and Westwood here, it's not a surprise he's gone with the one who is both fresher and better-rehearsed in the tactics.
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Very attack-minded. Or so it seems.
Or reckless in glass half empty land.
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Everton must have injuries to defenders looking at their bench. An early red card for a centre back would be handy
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not impressed with westwood starting over sanchez
Sanchez has been on international duty, loads of traveling and guessing only got back some time on Thursday.
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Everton must have injuries to defenders looking at their bench. An early red card for a centre back would be handy
Five early goals for us would also be handy.
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my stream is utter shit.
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From the BBC
14:53
I just caught sight of former Villa chairman Doug Ellis being helped to his seat.
Still going to away games at 91 - a fine effort sir. We salute you.
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Come on Villa, fuck these fuckers.
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I'll be happy with a clean sheet again today.
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Roy Keane is there. Is he obsessed with his ex? He dumped us!
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Flabby dropped from squad?
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Sitting deep content to let Everton have the ball in their own half and hit them on the break.
I'm fine with that if we can defend well.
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my stream is utter shit.
if it's any worse than mine you must be looking at a blank screen, heeeelp!
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Haven't had a huge amount of the ball yet.
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Richardson's a liability.
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my stream is utter shit.
if it's any worse than mine you must be looking at a blank screen, heeeelp!
If anybody gets a consistent these days send me a pm!
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Richardson's a liability.
Yeah he's up against it with Deulofeu today.
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my stream is utter shit.
if it's any worse than mine you must be looking at a blank screen, heeeelp!
Get Kodi. I'm watching it in HD !
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we're not going to score if we don't ever have the ball
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Everton controlling the game but not hurting Villa says Charlie Nicholas on SS.
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my stream is utter shit.
if it's any worse than mine you must be looking at a blank screen, heeeelp!
Get Kodi. I'm watching it in HD !
Same here
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my stream is utter shit.
if it's any worse than mine you must be looking at a blank screen, heeeelp!
Get Kodi. I'm watching it in HD !
Ditto on Phoenix.
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Bus well and truly parked.
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Are we allowed to have the ball st some point?
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I had a dream the other day that a Villa side not having the ball was a tactic and not just because we are not very good.
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Come on you Villa boys!
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Fuck!
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Bollocks
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fuck
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Shit.
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just waiting for them to score
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It's been coming.
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It's been coming since the kick off
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Bus well and truly parked.
Bus towed away to allow Everton access to goal
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Bus well and truly parked.
yeah, shame we didn't park it in front of the goal though
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I think the problem might just be that we're fucking shit.
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Mmmm
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At least there is plenty of time left.
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I think there is no disgrace in playing deep, parking the bus and trying to ride out a storm.
Playing like you are shit scared though is unforgivable though.
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if you have no way of holding onto the ball at all then you end up chasing shadows,Ayew just not good enough at this level
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It's sad when the best you can now possibly hope for is to have a shot on target.
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Everton have been bang in form lately, this was always going to be an awful fixture for us. Delafou or whatever the slippery little fucker is called has been incredible lately. Just want today out the way and focus on next week.
Picking Westwood over Sanchez is just odd. Whoever the manager is seems to do it too. Weird.
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Brian Little
ex-Aston Villa player & manager on BBC WM 95.6
“I can’t say that Everton deserve it because their crowd has been on edge but Villa have been sitting too deep and they will have to look at changing their approach.”
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first proper attack there - come on villa
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Everton have quality players in nearly every position, were so far off them currently.
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if you have no way of holding onto the ball at all then you end up chasing shadows,Ayew just not good enough at this level
Not up top he isn't - he should be in the side but wide. He works hard and is positive on the ball, but he has to be on the ball in space to get his head up. Back to goal protecting the ball is not his game. We need a forward like Gomis to play off. We haven't got one at the moment. Kozak is clearly not fit enough or he would be getting a game, and Gestede just doesn't hold the ball up.
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In possession (which ain't much) we look absolutely frightened to death.
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A lightweight team like ours needs to move the ball fast and accurately. Which we aren't doing at all.
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Everton look like a team who've been practicing a certain type of football for well over a year. We still look tentative and a bit incoherent, despite the (generally) improved defensive organisation.
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Everton have quality players in nearly every position, were so far off them currently.
They are solid all the way through. Not solid enough for top 4 but very much so for always competing in the top half. It's when they have to play in Europe they are stretched. We are soft and lacking confidence. We haven't won in ages so we look fragile, physically and mentally. Just getting a goal will be a big deal.
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we were lucky there - guzan save
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Richardson is horrible.
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if you have no way of holding onto the ball at all then you end up chasing shadows,Ayew just not good enough at this level
Not up top he isn't - he should be in the side but wide. He works hard and is positive on the ball, but he has to be on the ball in space to get his head up. Back to goal protecting the ball is not his game. We need a forward like Gomis to play off. We haven't got one at the moment. Kozak is clearly not fit enough or he would be getting a game, and Gestede just doesn't hold the ball up.
and we are going to have to play a lot of games like this with absoloutely no attacking options,
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We have such a batty midfield, no balls, no leadership, no fight.
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westwood shit shot
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Everton have quality players in nearly every position, were so far off them currently.
I've thought for a while we just don't have good enough players. Some say we signed good players in the summer. Maybe one or two but the majority from what i've seen are poor.
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ayew did well there
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poor from richardson, poor from westwood...
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Fuck sake, just got in.
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We're unspeakably shit at kicking a football from one Villa player to another. Just shit.
And never, ever let Westwood have a shot. Ever.
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fuck 2 0
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Fuck
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This is going to be ugly.
They are pissing all over us
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And there you have it. 2-0 already.
We are down.
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we are butter
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Right, well, lets hope for something against Watford.
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We have such a batty midfield, no balls, no leadership, no fight.
'Batty'? Charming.
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"Ashley Westwood: offering the square root of fuck all since 2012."
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do well to keep this below 6,
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Everton have quality players in nearly every position, were so far off them currently.
They are solid all the way through. Not solid enough for top 4 but very much so for always competing in the top half. It's when they have to play in Europe they are stretched. We are soft and lacking confidence. We haven't won in ages so we look fragile, physically and mentally. Just getting a goal will be a big deal.
Agreed although getting a shot on target is a big deal for me.
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Seems you can't polish a turd
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Fucking disgraceful garbage yet again. Game over in half an hour. Remi needs a miracle.
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We've had it this season we're just not good enough.
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Game over.
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if they keep going like this, it will be messy
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Fuck sake I rushed back for this shit.
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Has anyone else noticed that Villa are not very good at football ?
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Fuck me. If Garde didn't know the size of the task before he knows now. We are fucking all over the shop.
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poor from richardson, poor from westwood...
Mostly all the time theyve been at the club
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Seems you can't polish a turd
Just hope we can stick to this league like shit
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Laughable at just how shit we are.
The way it's playing out, and at the rate we keep breaking our own records at being shit, are we now going to achieve our lowest ever points total in a season? Does anyone know what that currently is?
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And that's why Lukaku is my Fantasy Football captain this week .......
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Is Traore injured or just dropped?
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Bournemouth 2-0 up at Swansea. That game was a disgrace from Sherwood, when we scored he just sat their as their midfield took over.
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Richardson is going to have a very long day. He either gets some help or the goal difference is going to take a battering.
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We have such a batty midfield, no balls, no leadership, no fight.
'Batty'? Charming.
I'd take David Batty in our midfield right now.
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Richardson looks like a five year old playing against his dads mates at the moment
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crap so far. This is what happens when you play Westwood and Richardson.
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Fucking Kieran Richardson. Fuck me
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Oh dear sounds pretty dreadful. Left back is a real problem.
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They look like a happy team and we don't.
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We have such a batty midfield, no balls, no leadership, no fight.
'Batty'? Charming.
I'd take David Batty in our midfield right now.
We need someone with some fight, someone who will tear into people, they're all so weak.
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Why Sanchez dropped for Westwood?
We have known for years that he is not good enough defensively.
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Barkely, Lukaku, Coleman, McCarthy, Stones etc. They must have 5-6 players that on the open market would go for 20 plus million. Been managed very well by Moyes and Martinez.
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Bunch of small, weakling players who have mostly been poorly trained and mismanaged for a few years now. We are mostly shit, have no goal scoring threat, a lot of nothing in midfield and defenders full of bloopers. We are going down this year and can only hope that fucking prick Lerner disappears up his own arsehole in the pre season so we can build again.
Crap for another week, I'm glad we had a week of internationals to break the monotony of being Aston Villa.
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I feel sorry for Garde. What's he supposed to do with this lot?
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Dreadful, i've switched off, my stream was wank and I just can't watch anymore
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Richardson has always seemed, to me, someone that enjoys the lifestyle of a footballer, but doesn't actually enjoy playing football.
He also has the added bonus of having the automatic law that anyone who has played Man Utd is brilliant and will continue to be brilliant wherever they go after they've realised he's too shit for them.
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just saw my mate in the crowd
poor sod
our fans deserve better
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Sanchez was good against Man City and gets dropped?? Why oh why Richardson and Westwood. Where is Okore?
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Barkely, Lukaku, Coleman, McCarthy, Stones etc. They must have 5-6 players that on the open market would go for 20 plus million. Been managed very well by Moyes and Martinez.
Yes they are miles better than us but I feel like crying right now
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We have such a batty midfield, no balls, no leadership, no fight.
'Batty'? Charming.
I'd take David Batty in our midfield right now.
We need someone with some fight, someone who will tear into people, they're all so weak.
Yeah, like Gareth 'Legbreaker' Barry and James 'The Hulk' McCarthy. Some things, like skill, matter a bit more than just fighting people like a brainless moron.
And last time I checked, 'batty' didn't just mean 'not tough'.
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We all know Richardson is shit.
But to be fair, he shouldn't be singlesd out here.
Everyone on that pitch looks out of his depth, is making mistakes, and is reponsible for this utter crap.
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Gill and Grealish away from home?
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The game's being played at pace. Everton can play that way, we can't.
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We have such a batty midfield, no balls, no leadership, no fight.
'Batty'? Charming.
I'd take David Batty in our midfield right now.
We need someone with some fight, someone who will tear into people, they're all so weak.
Yeah, like Gareth 'Legbreaker' Barry and James 'The Hulk' McCarthy. Some things, like skill, matter a bit more than just fighting people like a brainless moron.
And last time I checked, 'batty' didn't just mean 'not tough'.
Indeed. And homophobic language will not be tolerated on here.
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Gill and Grealish away from home?
I thought that. Grealish offers nothing defensively, whereas Sinclair worked hard to help Amavi against City.
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This reminds me of that game in Afghanistan where hordes of semi-savage bloodthirsty tribesmen on horseback drag a dead goat across barren plains for hours on end. We're the goat.
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Crap for another week, I'm glad we had a week of internationals to break the monotony of being Aston Villa.
and I normally hate those weekends
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Absolutely fucking shit doesn't even begin to describe this.
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This reminds me of that game in Afghanistan where a hordes of semi-savage bloodthirsty tribesmen on horseback drag a dead goat across barren plains for hours on end. We're the goat.
Can we have Stallone in our team.
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who lost the ball n midfield then ? ffs
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Anything we get out of this, however unlikely that seems, is a bonus. We need to beat the teams around us, and we've still got plenty of them to play. It's not looking good though.
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Blackburn go one up with an own goal from the Preston keeper. Someone's luck's changed...
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As I said before, the best we can possibly hope for is a shot on target.
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We're getting done by a better, more confident team but you'd expect more passion and fight from us.
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who lost the ball n midfield then ? ffs
Gana.
His tracking back was fucking terrible after he lost it.
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We have such a batty midfield, no balls, no leadership, no fight.
'Batty'? Charming.
I'd take David Batty in our midfield right now.
We need someone with some fight, someone who will tear into people, they're all so weak.
Yeah, like Gareth 'Legbreaker' Barry and James 'The Hulk' McCarthy. Some things, like skill, matter a bit more than just fighting people like a brainless moron.
And last time I checked, 'batty' didn't just mean 'not tough'.
Indeed. And homophobic language will not be tolerated on here.
It can also mean baffling or crazy. That's how I read it anyway.
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Gil and Grealish is a mistake, Grealish should be on the bench, he's been crap all season.
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Fell asleep on sofa. Woke up just now, first port of call is this thread, see we are still awful, wish I hadn't woken up.
We really are going down, sadly
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This is officially a spanking. 3-0.
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Me too rjp
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wtf 3 - 0
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no Strength, no leaders , rubbish.
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Shambles.
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I'm turning it off. See you all next week.
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Come on Randy sack the fucker
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Jesus Christ!
Unutterably shit.
What a gang of cretins.
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We're getting done by a better, more confident team but you'd expect more passion and fight from us.
People always think there's not enough 'passion', but can anyone tell me what more passion would look like? Big slide tackles? Those mostly leave you out of position. No, we're probably showing plenty of 'fight' - we're just not good enough at football at the moment.
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Are we fucked?
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Remi is tightening things up then
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In terms of tactics there is nothing there. Like a builder going to work without any tools, he can't do anything.
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Fell asleep on sofa. Woke up just now, first port of call is this thread, see we are still awful, wish I hadn't woken up.
We really are going down, sadly
What happened to "it's only November"?
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as bad as it has ever been
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Everton have got no chill, this is going to end very very bad.
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please make it stop
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I think we're in quite a lot of difficulty. Richardson is a terrible left back.
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This is fucking atrocious
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Me too rjp
And me
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I could weep, I really could.
Not one 'MAN' on that pitch is worth pissing on.
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Richardson is such a nothing player.
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I think this is the day that we realise that we are heading out of this league.
I just want it over now.
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Oh dear. Horrible.
Time for a win next week I think.
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We have such a batty midfield, no balls, no leadership, no fight.
'Batty'? Charming.
I'd take David Batty in our midfield right now.
We need someone with some fight, someone who will tear into people, they're all so weak.
Yeah, like Gareth 'Legbreaker' Barry and James 'The Hulk' McCarthy. Some things, like skill, matter a bit more than just fighting people like a brainless moron.
And last time I checked, 'batty' didn't just mean 'not tough'.
Indeed. And homophobic language will not be tolerated on here.
It can also mean baffling or crazy. That's how I read it anyway.
Exactly.
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You can lose badly to a team like Everton at Goodison Park, many will. You can't, however, keep losing to Leicester, Swansea, Stoke, Palace, not beat Sunderland, all of that. We'll go down because of that, not this.
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Jesus what a disaster. You have a lot of work to do Remi.
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Fell asleep on sofa. Woke up just now, first port of call is this thread, see we are still awful, wish I hadn't woken up.
We really are going down, sadly
What happened to "it's only November"?
It's really more a state of mind than any rational analysis of the situation
We smell of relegation
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Richards is a really bad defender, I said it when he signed and I still mean it. Hutton and Richardson can do one too.
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As soon as I saw Richardson (not many other options) and Westwood in the team I thiught we were done for.
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They put 6 past a shambolic Sunderland. I expect it will be the same today.
This season is a mission to get some team shape and style of play to get us back up, there is more chance of Corbyn winning the next general election than us staying up.
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It's worse than ever.
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gil looks mildly competent and hutton is showing willing, but the rest of them are shit
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What are the bookies doing? You can still make a pound on this if you invest Ł750
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Our new manager bounce didn't last long.
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Richards is a really bad defender, I said it when he signed and I still mean it. Hutton and Richardson can do one too.
He was our MOTM IMO in the cup final.
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Fell asleep on sofa. Woke up just now, first port of call is this thread, see we are still awful, wish I hadn't woken up.
We really are going down, sadly
What happened to "it's only November"?
It's really more a state of mind than any rational analysis of the situation
We smell of relegation
Sadly, I agree.
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this is like me having sex with someone like Jenna Jameson
out of my depth , useless and inexperience , Id be eaten alive
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They way we have approached this game, and the way we have (not) reacted to being battered makes me think the players have given up.
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Our new manager bounce didn't last long.
Bounce? We've hit the ground and made a fucking crater.
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You can lose badly to a team like Everton at Goodison Park, many will. You can't, however, keep losing to Leicester, Swansea, Stoke, Palace, not beat Sunderland, all of that. We'll go down because of that, not this.
That's how I see it to be fair. I think Garde and his staff will have games they're targeting as 'must wins' and others that it would be a bonus to get anything in. This is one of the latter, but we've got to pick up points against those around us otherwise we're well and truly buggered.
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What a bastard disgrace! The only positive is agbonlahor is not on the pitch!! Fuck the lot of em.
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Guzan poor, Richards is having a bad game, Clark is always fucking useless against a big mobile forward, Richardson is as competent at this level as I would be manning a space station. Lets not even start on Westwood.
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Guzan is a complete disaster as well. Terrible first half, truly terrible.
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Shit again, going the pub, can't be arsed wasting my time on repetitive bollocks like this. RIP Villa, can someone burn something wooden at the ground next week and put it in a little urn.
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Richards is a really bad defender, I said it when he signed and I still mean it. Hutton and Richardson can do one too.
He was our MOTM IMO in the cup final.
Haha.
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I like half time. It's a 15 minute window on a match day when things can't get any worse.
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Oh dear. Horrible.
Time for a win next week I think.
I caught bits of the Watford v Man Utd game and as much as hate to say it Watford will probably beat us as well.
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Our January transfer budget is going to have to have a fuckload of zeros on the end.
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They way we have approached this game, and the way we have (not) reacted to being battered makes me think the players have given up.
Which would imply they have taken a look at Remi and thought nah.
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If it's any consolation at all, and it really isn't, Bournemouth now 2-2 with Swansea and Vardy has given Leicester the lead at Newcastle.
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I'm off to read some mind-numbing literary theory, it'll be less painful than this shit.
Thanks for the total demolition job you've done on Aston Villa, Randy.
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Our January transfer budget is going to have to have a fuckload of zeros on the end.
No point, we are down. Not getting depressed about it. Sherwood has not prepared the squad to be ready for the season, the side itself is now very, very fragile, and we are miles from being competitive.
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this is like me having sex with someone like Jenna Jameson
out of my depth , useless and inexperience , Id be eaten alive
At least it would be over quickly, we have got another 45 minutes of this shit.
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Remi needs a small army of polishers for this collection of turds. The squad is just not good enough, blame lies with recruitment policy and Sherwood.
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can only hope that fucking prick Lerner disappears up his own arsehole in the pre season so we can build again.
People were fawning over Ellis for being so kind to us in hand picking Lerner as his successor, I'd argue that he wasn't as diligent as he might have been... but Ellis became a 'don't criticise' zone when reached 75 so i suppose i'd best keep it to myself
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Our January transfer budget is going to have to have a fuckload of zeros on the end.
It will
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Our January transfer budget is going to have to have a fuckload of zeros on the end.
Agree. We need players in but we'll be well adrift by then.
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The Villa Facebook page always makes me laugh. They constantly update it during the match with images and comments.
The latest image was Richardson and Deulofeu with the post stating "Everton 3-0 Villa – MATCH PIC: Kieran Richardson locked in a battle with Everton's Gerard Deulofeu."
Why would you post something about that? Yes, update the page. But just update the score with no images and don't mention anything. It's embarrassing.
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I like HT . I can go and have a shower and the girlfriend cant see my tears
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They way we have approached this game, and the way we have (not) reacted to being battered makes me think the players have given up.
Which would imply they have taken a look at Remi and thought nah.
Or, the players simply aren't good enough.
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so we have no centre forward, no left back, still playing Westwood and Guzan in goal. (Yes he did make a great save)
How the hell is Garde supposed to keep up with this lot?
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Fucking garbage. Enough of this wank.
I might take an Aston Villa supporting sabbatical.
We just never seem to improve. Woefully inept players. I hate seeing Westwood with the ball, he never does anything with it. Richardson is a fucking ballsack-no pace, no skill, can't pass, always looks knackered. Giving the ball out wide to Hutton-why? It's like the beginning of last season under Lambert-Hutton is shit, he never assists a goal, never has a shot, never wins a corner, even.
Sigh. Fuck off the whole team. Poor Remi. And most of all, poor us.
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The Villa Facebook page always makes me laugh. They constantly update it during the match with images and comments.
The latest image was Richardson and Deulofeu with the post stating "Everton 3-0 Villa – MATCH PIC: Kieran Richardson locked in a battle with Everton's Gerard Deulofeu."
Why would you post something about that? Yes, update the page. But just update the score with no images and don't mention anything. It's embarrassing.
It's awful, isn't it? They consistently show how out of touch they are. All well meaning content, but often cringeworthy and contrary to the mood of fans (reading comments).
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this is like me having sex with someone like Jenna Jameson
out of my depth , useless and inexperience , Id be eaten alive
At least it would be over quickly, we have got another 45 minutes of this shit.
I wouldnt get my pants off ;) bit like Villa at the moment
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Bloody Bitters beating the Arse as well ...
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17% possession no shot on target were fucked
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Guzan at fault for the 1st
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I'm trying not to knee jerkto today but I honestly get the feeling that this is an unstoppable juggernaut towards Championship football. There has been an almost inevitable culture of failure at the club for far too long.
In addition there are lots and lots of hallmarks that chime with 1987. The malaise is deep rooted.
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If it's any consolation at all, and it really isn't, Bournemouth now 2-2 with Swansea and Vardy has given Leicester the lead at Newcastle.
Every week I write Vardy off thinking he can't possibly keep this up. Despite being a bit of a knob, he's certainly producing on the pitch.
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I know it's customary to say "that was the worst half I can remember" and so on.
But that actually, genuinely, really was.
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Getting 1 point from man city and Everton isn't too bad really. It is the complete shit show in the previous games that is the problem.
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I genuinely thought we could get a point today! Ha, I'm such a deluded idiot.
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If I were Remi I think I'd be trying to thinking about how to leave and retain my dignity within the next few days. Not his fault - I really like him - but he has no chance with our players.
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It is not often that I post on a match thread but that was fucking terrible.
We are light weight, devoid of passion and clueless.
It reminds me of the team that went down in 69.
You can not imagine what the fuck that bunch can do to change things.
6 new players with experience in Jan, or wait and buy players to get us promoted next season.
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Clark is always terrible against a big centre forward, Richardson is just shit and Guzan is a liability.
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I know it's customary to say "that was the worst half I can remember" and so on.
But that actually, genuinely, really was.
We were intermittently bad, we never got a foothold, and this is probably Everton's best performance of the season so far. It's a mark of how far we are behind them.
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I know it's customary to say "that was the worst half I can remember" and so on.
But that actually, genuinely, really was.
We were intermittently bad, we never got a foothold, and this is probably Everton's best performance of the season so far. It's a mark of how far we are behind them.
And to think some of us on here have been dismissive about the work Moyes did, and the work that Martinez has carried on with.
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this is like me having sex with someone like Jenna Jameson
out of my depth , useless and inexperience , Id be eaten alive
At least it would be over quickly, we have got another 45 minutes of this shit.
Thank's for the laugh after the first half it was much needed.
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If it's any consolation at all, and it really isn't, Bournemouth now 2-2 with Swansea and Vardy has given Leicester the lead at Newcastle.
Every week I write Vardy off thinking he can't possibly keep this up. Despite being a bit of a knob, he's certainly producing on the pitch.
does that put him past Van Horseface?
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Deulofeu is destroying Richardson. It's not fair.
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We are beyond poor. Poor teams manage a win occasionally. I can't think how we could win a game as we are.
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BBC website having a field day on their Live Reporting feed.
"Shambles. An absolute shambles in the Aston Villa penalty area. Ugo Ehiogu, Gareth Southgate, Paul McGrath, Shaun Teale, any one of them would have prevented this goal.
Romelu Lukaku helps the ball on to Arouna Kone but between Brad Guzan and Micah Richards it should be easily dealt with. Instead they hesitate, Guzan can't gather the ball in, Guzan has two attempts at catching the bobbling ball before Ross Barkley arrives and thumps home. His second of the day, into two open goals."
Danny Mills - "I cannot wait for Martin Keown to destroy Aston Villa's defending on Match of the day this evening. It is comical - the ball bounced three times in the penalty area!"
Garth Crooks - "What this performance says to me is Aston Villa's problems weren't just down to Tim Sherwood - the owners have to realise that now."
"Half Time - Awful from Aston Villa."
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I don't think there's a great shame in losing to Everton, it's more the manner of it.
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Thank f*** the dodgy feed decided to pack up on me after 4 minutes! We are in deep, DEEP trouble & will definitely go down if the wonderful Randolph fails to throw some dosh in the pot come January. This present bunch - bar a handful of exceptions - clearly ain't up to it. I just hope to God Everton don't go for the jugular in the second 45 - as this could get proper embarrassing.
Dreadful scenes.
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I know it's customary to say "that was the worst half I can remember" and so on.
But that actually, genuinely, really was.
We were intermittently bad, we never got a foothold, and this is probably Everton's best performance of the season so far. It's a mark of how far we are behind them.
Everton did the same to Sunderland
It was obvious with Delafauo in form we would struggle with Amavi out but Sanchez missing from mifdfield has left us badly exposed , none of the 3 there are doing anything.
As bad as this is , and it is bad City and Everton were always going to be 2 very tough games hopefully other results help us a bit and we can regroup.
I will say looking at whats on the pitch to stay up we are going to have to gamble in Jan and spend big.
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The genuinely scary thing is I can actually believe it is very possible we won't win a game until the window opens. None of our fixtures you'd be able to describe as easy.
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Richards is a really bad defender, I said it when he signed and I still mean it.
There is no way in the world he is a centre half. He has absolutely no understanding of keeping the shape of the defence, constantly goes walk about, he's like a 7 year old chasing the ball around the playground. We give away so many goals on the right. The sooner Jores is fit the better.
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If it's any consolation at all, and it really isn't, Bournemouth now 2-2 with Swansea and Vardy has given Leicester the lead at Newcastle.
Every week I write Vardy off thinking he can't possibly keep this up. Despite being a bit of a knob, he's certainly producing on the pitch.
does that put him past Van Horseface?
Level, I think. I scoffed when we were linked with him in the Summer!! Lets be honest, he'd never have done this for us -Leicester City are light years ahead of us.
Leicester City.
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Can't defend. Can't create goal-scoring chances. I think the biggest problem is that not a one of the players seems to care. I suppose they might think that if the gaffer can't be bothered to turn up why should he expect anything different from his employees?
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"Shambles. An absolute shambles in the Aston Villa penalty area. Ugo Ehiogu, Gareth Southgate, Paul McGrath, Shaun Teale, any one of them would have prevented this goal.
Yep and they would have in their playing days as well.....
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Sanchez on for Gana? I'd have thought for Westwood, but nobody really deserved to stay on that pitch from our team.
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They can do what they like in Jan but we will be so far adrift by then it will take a miracle to save us.
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They can do what they like in Jan but we will be so far adrift by then it will take a miracle to save us.
is correct.
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Sanchez on for Gana? I'd have thought for Westwood, but nobody really deserved to stay on that pitch from our team.
Presumably it's a reflection of games played during the week for their country. Westwood's had 2 weeks to lounge around ...
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Damage limitation now we can't afford a complete annihilation
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What concerns me is that we are not just bad defensively - even if we got that right, look at the other end of the pitch, and there is pretty much nothing there.
Ayew looked like the Weimann replacement but we blatantly didn't replace Benteke
The last few seasons we got away with it - and even then only just - because no matter how shit we were, we had a top class centre forward who stayed fit for enough matches to score enough goals.
Now we are even worse, but up front there is no hint of a likely source of goals.
I think Garde will improve us and I suspect he'll buy a striker and a keeper in January, but I have a feeling by then we will be cut so far loose that even if we are not mathematically down, psychologically we are finished
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I was going to ask if Westwood is taking corners, I doubt we've got that far
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Let's try it 3-1, at least then there's an air of respectability.
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What concerns me is that we are not just bad defensively - even if we got that right, look at the other end of the pitch, and there is pretty much nothing there.
Ayew looked like the Weimann replacement but we blatantly didn't replace Benteke
The last few seasons we got away with it - and even then only just - because no matter how shit we were, we had a top class centre forward who stayed fit for enough matches to score enough goals.
Now we are even worse, but up front there is no hint of a likely source of goals.
I think Garde will improve us and I suspect he'll buy a striker and a keeper in January, but I have a feeling by then we will be cut so far loose that even if we are not mathematically down, psychologically we are finished
True, although Leicester looked dead and buried last season in January, with a squad of largely-unnoticed players and managed to find their mojo.
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If it's any consolation at all, and it really isn't, Bournemouth now 2-2 with Swansea and Vardy has given Leicester the lead at Newcastle.
Every week I write Vardy off thinking he can't possibly keep this up. Despite being a bit of a knob, he's certainly producing on the pitch.
does that put him past Van Horseface?
Level, I think. I scoffed when we were linked with him in the Summer!! Lets be honest, he'd never have done this for us -Leicester City are light years ahead of us.
Leicester City.
They are ahead of everyone as I write
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I really dislike the owner but it shouldn't be this bad.
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Good job I have a beautiful homebrewed 9.2% Imperial Pale Ale to numb the pain!
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They can do what they like in Jan but we will be so far adrift by then it will take a miracle to save us.
You're probably right. Oh happy days. :(
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Good job I have a beautiful homebrewed 9.2% Imperial Pale Ale to numb the pain!
ooh nice.
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There's absolutely no purpose to the team today. Our midfield looked so compact and organised against Man City, today the opposite. I'd love to know how Remi thinks we'll score a goal. Grealish is invisible, he may look great in training but produces next to nothing on matchday. Ayew is surrounded by 5 players and Gil is playing so deep he could be playing right back. Only Hutton is managing to do anything in Everton's half.
The less about our comedy defence the better.
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JustHead about to come on
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Good job I have a beautiful homebrewed 9.2% Imperial Pale Ale to numb the pain!
What's your hop-bill like?
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Good job I have a beautiful homebrewed 9.2% Imperial Pale Ale to numb the pain!
Just setting up my morphine drip to ease my suffering
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What concerns me is that we are not just bad defensively - even if we got that right, look at the other end of the pitch, and there is pretty much nothing there.
Ayew looked like the Weimann replacement but we blatantly didn't replace Benteke
The last few seasons we got away with it - and even then only just - because no matter how shit we were, we had a top class centre forward who stayed fit for enough matches to score enough goals.
Now we are even worse, but up front there is no hint of a likely source of goals.
I think Garde will improve us and I suspect he'll buy a striker and a keeper in January, but I have a feeling by then we will be cut so far loose that even if we are not mathematically down, psychologically we are finished
True, although Leicester looked dead and buried last season in January, with a squad of largely-unnoticed players and managed to find their mojo.
Leicester had 10 points this time last year
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Paul Lambert's Blackburn 2-0 up...
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A shot!
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Have retired to the pub..I asked the barman..he said.."a glass"..no make it a bottle I replied..ffs villa your are to blame for this.
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Really disappointing we've regressed to the mean after just one game with the new manager. Can only hope the rebuilding job in the summer is well thought out and executed, and we only spend one season in the Champ and come up stronger.
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Paul Lambert's Blackburn 2-0 up...
And he can go fuck himself too
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whoops
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Paul Lambert's Blackburn 2-0 up...
And he can go fuck himself too
I'll second that. I bet they've been excellent.
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Yay a shot on target.
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We're getting slaughtered.
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When you substitute Benteke with the likes of Ayew and Gestede that's absolutely predictable....
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Piss easy.
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they play ok for 5 minutes then everton score
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What an utter shambles
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Good move for the fourth
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Embaressing
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I was in the shower too long
well only missed a goal ;(
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Wayheeyyyy - 4 shots, 2 corners and 37%, according to the Beeb website.
That's progress.
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Paul Lambert's Blackburn 2-0 up...
So?
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I fear this might be 7 or 8
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Fucking hell
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Look at Richards for that goal, completely clueless.
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Wayheeyyyy - 4 shots, 2 corners and 37%, according to the Beeb website.
That's progress.
Fcuk it - spoke too soon.
Shite.
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Good job I have a beautiful homebrewed 9.2% Imperial Pale Ale to numb the pain!
Good idea, I have a bottle of 8.5% Petrus Aged Red in the fridge. Time to break it out.
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Goodnight.
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I don't know if this is going to constitute hitting rock bottom but I hope it is. We lost games this season but never battered. Maybe this has been coming but what a disaster this is today. Surely to God it can only get better.
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We are the whipping boys.
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The term 'like men against boys' have never, ever been so apt.
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Really disappointing we've regressed to the mean after just one game with the new manager. Can only hope the rebuilding job in the summer is well thought out and executed, and we only spend one season in the Champ and come up stronger.
Part of me thinks that should be January's transfer policy: prepare for the Championship. The reality, though, is that the buying of unproven youngsters, not-good-enough journeymen and has-beens of the last five or six seasons has been one long preparation for the Championship.
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the problem with the window. We need five players still.
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Good God this is shocking.
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I know he hasn't got many options but surely Garde has fucked up with the team selection there. It had lightweight and knife through butter written all over it. Grealish and Gil should never be on the pitch together unless we are 4-0 up at home.
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Look at Richards for that goal, completely clueless.
I think it's harsh to single him out, Lukaku is the centre-forward where were the central defenders?
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Leicester two up at Newcastle and sitting top of the PL.
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I intended going to this but missed the window for tickets. Dodged a bullet there.
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unless we are 4-0 up at home.
Haha, yes, good one!
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Wow, 5 points chalked up going into December
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Slight family crisis meant I've only just started looking at this. Are we as bad as the scoreline suggests?
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Paul Lambert's Blackburn 2-0 up...
So?
An indication that even the seemingly incompetent can once again thrive away from the putrid atmosphere that pollutes seemingly everything surrounding AVFC.
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Thank fuck some of the teams above us are shit enough not to make the gap a chasm.
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Those players should refund every poor fucker who made that shitty journey today.
Our away support is fantastic and they don't deserve to be made a laughing stock.
Gutless. Spineless.
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We are the whipping boys.
Fits nicely into a chant.
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Grealish and Gil can only be on the pitch together when we have won 6-7 on the bounce, are a full on attacking force and are playing with pomp and confidence.
Only then should they both be considered.
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Slight family crisis meant I've only just started looking at this. Are we as bad as the scoreline suggests?
Yes. Dire.
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Slight family crisis meant I've only just started looking at this. Are we as bad as the scoreline suggests?
To be fair Everton have been very good, they've just straight up murdered us.
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We have been sleepwalking into the championship for years and it's finally going to happen!
We have a team full of championship players! There isn't a player in that side that would walk into other teams and that's how far we've fallen
Garde has to be given time and if we do improve must be given the opportunity in the championship
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We need to go down. I can't stand this anymore.
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On 67 minutes we put a cross into the box
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I can see that the myth growing up about this game is that we've been 'outmuscled'. Frankly, I think this is nonsense - we haven't been outmuscled, we've been outmanouvered.
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All I can hear is our fans. 4-0, away from home, staring relegation in the face. They're the best thing about this club by a distance.
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It's awful picking individuals out, because they have all been bad, but Vertoute has been particularly fucking shit today.
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BBC: The Villa fans are still singing, a top-class performance from the travelling fans that their team barely deserve. Remi Garde stands on the touchline, the face of a worried man. "What have I got myself in to?"
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We need to go down. I can't stand this anymore.
It will be nice to lose against some different teams that's for sure.
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There is absolutely no confidence or belief.
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I can see that the myth growing up about this game is that we've been 'outmuscled'. Frankly, I think this is nonsense - we haven't been outmuscled, we've been outmanouvered.
Probably out everything apart from sang. Fair play to the fans.
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There is absolutely no confidence or belief.
That's the main problem - psychologically we are finished.
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I can see that the myth growing up about this game is that we've been 'outmuscled'. Frankly, I think this is nonsense - we haven't been outmuscled, we've been outmanouvered.
Absolutely battered is how I would put it.
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I can see that the myth growing up about this game is that we've been 'outmuscled'. Frankly, I think this is nonsense - we haven't been outmuscled, we've been outmanouvered.
I don't quite agree.
We have lost pretty much every indivual battle, have lost the ball very, very cheaply when we do have it, and have looked physically weak all over the park.
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thank fcuk hes off
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Loads of trouble in the away end today.
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nzogbia on to score five
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I can see that the myth growing up about this game is that we've been 'outmuscled'. Frankly, I think this is nonsense - we haven't been outmuscled, we've been outmanouvered.
I don't quite agree.
We have lost pretty much every indivual battle, have lost the ball very, very cheaply when we do have it, and have looked physically weak all over the park.
See, this is silly. Does Delofeu look stronger than Richardson? Barry or McCarthy than Gana? It's time to stop thinking in terms of 'individual battles', like football is sumo wrestling - we lose because the team has been completely outplayed. As a team.
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There is absolutely no confidence or belief.
That's the main problem - psychologically we are finished.
I look at Leicester's squad and I look at ours. On paper there is little between them. You could make a case if the season started today that ours has more talent. What ours had none of and there's has so much they are selling it is belief. I would bet they think they could beat Barcelona and Real Madrid right now. They have no fear. We are utterly scared to death of the game.
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I can see that the myth growing up about this game is that we've been 'outmuscled'. Frankly, I think this is nonsense - we haven't been outmuscled, we've been outmanouvered.
I don't quite agree.
We have lost pretty much every indivual battle, have lost the ball very, very cheaply when we do have it, and have looked physically weak all over the park.
See, this is silly. Does Delofeu look stronger than Richardson? Barry or McCarthy than Gana? It's time to stop thinking in terms of 'individual battles' - we lose because the team has been completely outplayed. As a team.
[/quoteI can see that the myth growing up about this game is that we've been 'outmuscled'. Frankly, I think this is nonsense - we haven't been outmuscled, we've been outmanouvered.
I don't quite agree.
We have lost pretty much every indivual battle, have lost the ball very, very cheaply when we do have it, and have looked physically weak all over the park.
See, this is silly. Does Delofeu look stronger than Richardson? Barry or McCarthy than Gana? It's time to stop thinking in terms of 'individual battles' - we lose because the team has been completely outplayed. As a team.
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Virtually every single, individual challenge, every 50-50 we have lost out.
When in possession virtually every Villa player has lost the ball cheaply.
Yes, they have outmuscled us, out manoeuvred us, out jumped us, out played us, and fucking well out scored us.
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If Garde keeps us afloat this season it will out do anything SAF achieved in 30 odd years.
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I can see that the myth growing up about this game is that we've been 'outmuscled'. Frankly, I think th9is is nonsense - we haven't been outmuscled, we've been outmanouvered.
Wasn't like that at El Alamein Monty. This is a bit more like the Alamo,
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Grealish has been rubbish this season.
Where is Traore? Delifiou or however it's spelt-excellent. Why can't Traore play like him? Give the lad a chance.
It's amazing that week in week out the players perform in this manner. Do they have any personal/professional pride? I am starting to despise their ineptitude.
Fuming and disappointed. What an unhealthy cocktail.
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The players are a complete disgrace for me! Utterly useless
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I think I now know the real meaning of 'hopeless' , all hope is gone I think, very sad.
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If Garde keeps us afloat this season it will out do anything SAF achieved in 30 odd years.
Good shout.
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There is absolutely no confidence or belief.
That's the main problem - psychologically we are finished.
I look at Leicester's squad and I look at ours. On paper there is little between them. You could make a case if the season started today that ours has more talent. What ours had none of and there's has so much they are selling it is belief. I would bet they think they could beat Barcelona and Real Madrid right now. They have no fear. We are utterly scared to death of the game.
We have been for ages sadly.
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the co commentaor
you need players like westwood when you are at the bottom
wtf
thats why we are at the bottom
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I'm just fed up with people always looking at us being beaten and putting it down to strength and size. It's obviously not true - Man City are a much, much bigger team than Everton but they didn't move as well as Everton have today. This obsession with size is just ridiculous.
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Our players aren't good enough at football - a combination of passion, technique, physicality, pace and many other things
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Much as I despise him as a person, what Leicester have really got that we haven't is a Jamie Vardy - someone who can pick the ball up and score at will. I just can't see where our goals will come from. Garde has got to get someone in to do that in January
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Jamie Vardy has become a very good player. What he has never lacked is belief in his own ability. Right now there is nothing that he doesn't believe he can do.
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Down.
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the co commentaor
you need players like westwood when you are at the bottom
wtf
thats why we are at the bottom
Every single one of those players he mentioned need to be moved on.
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We need players in and we need tactics in. I haven't seen anything that could have come off the training ground.
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We lack physicality pace and from an attacking perspective we are completely tepid.
We must buy a striker desperately in January
I do not want to see Westwood start a game ever again.
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Jamie Vardy has become a very good player. What he has never lacked is belief in his own ability. Right now there is nothing that he doesn't believe he can do.
So true.
Confidence and belief are wonderful things.
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the co commentaor
you need players like westwood when you are at the bottom
wtf
thats why we are at the bottom
I don't think singling out one player is fair. It took the entire team to lose as comprehensively as this. No positives to take from this at all. I feel that this is it; the chance to turn things around after a credible draw against Man City has been caved in.
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I reckon McLaren will get the boot this weekend and Moyes will come in and keep them up.
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the co commentaor
you need players like westwood when you are at the bottom
wtf
thats why we are at the bottom
Every single one of those players he mentioned need to be moved on.
he forgot Gabby Agbonlahor
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To have any chance we need a striker, Goalkeeper and left back.
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Much as I despise him as a person, what Leicester have really got that we haven't is a Jamie Vardy - someone who can pick the ball up and score at will. I just can't see where our goals will come from. Garde has got to get someone in to do that in January
Yet no Premier league proven goalscorer will come to us. Five months and at the end of it the very real likelihood of relegation. The best we can hope for is that Garde knows an unproven rough diamond in the lower echelons of French football, we take a punt and end up with another Benteke. That's called a long shot.
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I reckon McLaren will get the boot this weekend and Moyes will come in and keep them up.
Yeah but we will be playing technically superior continental football.
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What's so despicable about Vardy "as a person" anyway?
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I reckon McLaren will get the boot this weekend and Moyes will come in and keep them up.
Yeah but we will be playing technically superior continental football.
He says scornfully as we're losing 4-0 to superior 'continental' football.
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Some of the players are good enough, just need to go on a run of results to build up confidence and hopefully replace some of the cack ones in January.
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Much as I despise him as a person, what Leicester have really got that we haven't is a Jamie Vardy - someone who can pick the ball up and score at will. I just can't see where our goals will come from. Garde has got to get someone in to do that in January
Yet no Premier league proven goalscorer will come to us. Five months and at the end of it the very real likelihood of relegation. The best we can hope for is that Garde knows an unproven rough diamond in the lower echelons of French football, we take a punt and end up with another Benteke. That's called a long shot.
Vardy wasn't a proven PL goal scorer. He became one. Our challenge is to get the players we have believe they are PL players. They don't believe it.
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What's so despicable about Vardy "as a person" anyway?
The fact he's a racist piece of shit might be why.
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To have any chance we need a striker, Goalkeeper and left back.
Jimmy Rimmer . Charlie Aitken and Andy Gray we would just have a chance ;)
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Arsenal miss a penalty. The day just gets better.
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Some of the players are good enough, just need to go on a run of results to build up confidence and hopefully replace some of the cack ones in January.
We haven't had a run of (decent) results for 5 years.
Fuck knows if that will ever happen again.
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Much as I despise him as a person, what Leicester have really got that we haven't is a Jamie Vardy - someone who can pick the ball up and score at will. I just can't see where our goals will come from. Garde has got to get someone in to do that in January
Yet no Premier league proven goalscorer will come to us. Five months and at the end of it the very real likelihood of relegation. The best we can hope for is that Garde knows an unproven rough diamond in the lower echelons of French football, we take a punt and end up with another Benteke. That's called a long shot.
I think anyone of quality who comes to us now will have a get out clause in their contract.
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3 additional minutes of torture
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We will be lucky to have gotten away with 4-0. Take it and run.
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Our challenge is to get the players we have believe they are PL players. They don't believe it.
That is it - I'd also like to know where Kozak and Okore are because at the moment the squad looks pretty thin on quality in depth.
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Much as I despise him as a person, what Leicester have really got that we haven't is a Jamie Vardy - someone who can pick the ball up and score at will. I just can't see where our goals will come from. Garde has got to get someone in to do that in January
Why despise?
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What's so despicable about Vardy "as a person" anyway?
Try this (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/leicester-striker-jamie-vardy-starts-6257268) for starters
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We only losing the second half 1-0 so progress of sorts....
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3 additional minutes of torture
You're lucky, my stream is 15 minutes behind. N'Zogbia has just come on.
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3 additional minutes of torture
You're lucky, my stream is 15 minutes behind. N'Zogbia has just come on.
Do yourself a favour and smash the screen.
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As a positive - would we have taken 1 point from games against Citeh and Everton two weeks ago before our supposed new start against Watford?
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3 additional minutes of torture
You're lucky, my stream is 15 minutes behind. N'Zogbia has just come on.
He's about to score 5, honest :)
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Much as I despise him as a person, what Leicester have really got that we haven't is a Jamie Vardy - someone who can pick the ball up and score at will. I just can't see where our goals will come from. Garde has got to get someone in to do that in January
Yet no Premier league proven goalscorer will come to us. Five months and at the end of it the very real likelihood of relegation. The best we can hope for is that Garde knows an unproven rough diamond in the lower echelons of French football, we take a punt and end up with another Benteke. That's called a long shot.
Vardy wasn't a proven PL goal scorer. He became one. Our challenge is to get the players we have believe they are PL players. They don't believe it.
Those Villa players who don't believe they are PL quality, I'm beginning to agree with them.
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3 additional minutes of torture
You're lucky, my stream is 15 minutes behind. N'Zogbia has just come on.
He's about to score 5, honest :)
What, he's doubled his total goals for Villa in one game? For some reason I don't believe you.
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Don't know about today but against man city okore was in the car park about 10 mins before kick off.
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What's so despicable about Vardy "as a person" anyway?
He's a racist, gobby, arrogant wanker.
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Don't know about today but against man city okore was in the car park about 10 mins before kick off.
Richards has been AWOL all day today too.
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What's so despicable about Vardy "as a person" anyway?
He's a racist, gobby, arrogant wanker.
I was trying to put my finger on it but you've about summed it up just fine.
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Our utter shitness knows no bounds it would appear.
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Right now having arrived home from one of my two home matches of the season I would take Atila the Hun, Gascoigne on one leg and Vardy.
We really were that poor.
What is the point of going two down and still keeping 11 men behind the ball.
Villa fans were superb and we did have options McNaught, Morley and Greelish's dad (got to be better than his son today)