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Title: Dean Saunders home debut - full MOTD highlights
Post by: Deano's Mullet on November 18, 2015, 03:15:39 PM


One of the seminal games in my Villa supporting career. Was sat North Stand Upper so had great view of Rosenthal hitting underside of bar down the other end. Atmosphere was amazing and it was helped by the noisy away support on top of a jubilant home crowd. Garry Parker was international class that day.
Title: Re: Dean Saunders home debut - full MOTD highlights
Post by: castlefields_villan on November 18, 2015, 03:53:29 PM
I remember saying at the time "it must've been easier for him to score"
Title: Re: Dean Saunders home debut - full MOTD highlights
Post by: tomd2103 on November 18, 2015, 03:58:31 PM
Will watch this when I get home tonight.  Apart from the last couple of months, what a season that was.  One of the last seasons of 'proper football' before Sky got a real hold on the game.  I can still name the starting XI for most of that season:

                           Spink

Barrett         McGrath     Teale    Staunton

Houghton    Richardson   Parker     Froggatt

                  Atkinson        Saunders


Of course there were the odd changes here and there.  Thinking back, I don't remember Tony Daley featuring that much that season.  Guess he must have been injured.   

     
Title: Re: Dean Saunders home debut - full MOTD highlights
Post by: The Left Side on November 18, 2015, 04:07:21 PM
Lovely stuff
Title: Re: Dean Saunders home debut - full MOTD highlights
Post by: castlefields_villan on November 18, 2015, 04:36:58 PM
It was a tremendous season, even though we didn't actually win anything it is one of my favourite seasons ever.

I remember Big Ron saying towards the end when it looked like Man U. would pip us to the league title "whatever happens, this crowd has seen some superb football this season" - again what a pity we couldn't quite push-on from finishing 2nd.
Title: Re: Dean Saunders home debut - full MOTD highlights
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on November 18, 2015, 05:10:53 PM
I remember going to see his debut at Leeds the week before. Nil Nil? Sunday game?
Title: Re: Dean Saunders home debut - full MOTD highlights
Post by: Deano's Mullet on November 18, 2015, 05:41:08 PM
I remember going to see his debut at Leeds the week before. Nil Nil? Sunday game?

1-1. He had a goal disallowed for offside. Parker scored ours, Steve Hodge for them.
Title: Re: Dean Saunders home debut - full MOTD highlights
Post by: Somniloquism on November 18, 2015, 06:03:41 PM
Does it show the whole of Holte auditioning for a coffee advert?

I was in the Holte Lower right and could see the cross bar but the flight of the ball was blocked by some tall buggers just after Rosenthal beat Spink. It felt like hours from leaving his foot to seeing it smack the cross bar because of that blocked view.
Title: Re: Dean Saunders home debut - full MOTD highlights
Post by: andyh on November 18, 2015, 06:09:37 PM
So many great things about this game and team.
But not least, the fact that we weren't pushovers at home, to anybody.
Title: Re: Dean Saunders home debut - full MOTD highlights
Post by: lovejoy on November 18, 2015, 06:41:05 PM
This is the game which I probably remember most of all, in the lower Holte, on my 18th birthday, just about to start Uni
Title: Re: Dean Saunders home debut - full MOTD highlights
Post by: cheltenhamlion on November 18, 2015, 08:29:18 PM
Vividly remember that game.
Title: Re: Dean Saunders home debut - full MOTD highlights
Post by: Exeter 77 on November 18, 2015, 09:40:37 PM
Does it show the whole of Holte auditioning for a coffee advert?
I think that happened twice in that game. For Rosenthal hitting the bar and earlier on when Walters deliberately celebrated his goal in front if us.
Title: Re: Dean Saunders home debut - full MOTD highlights
Post by: LeeB on November 18, 2015, 09:45:08 PM
The thing I remember most vividly about this game is two geezers sat just in front us, about 5 rows back from the dugouts, singing "Gringo Moustachio" relentlessly at Bruce Grobbelaar on their bench.
Title: Re: Dean Saunders home debut - full MOTD highlights
Post by: kiddylion on November 19, 2015, 12:26:08 AM
Great day,non stop attacking football haven't seen that down VP for a few years now.
Tony Gubba was a great commentator aswell RIP
Title: Re: Dean Saunders home debut - full MOTD highlights
Post by: Holte L2 on November 19, 2015, 09:22:44 AM
Will watch this when I get home tonight.  Apart from the last couple of months, what a season that was.  One of the last seasons of 'proper football' before Sky got a real hold on the game.  I can still name the starting XI for most of that season:

                           Spink

Barrett         McGrath     Teale    Staunton

Houghton    Richardson   Parker     Froggatt

                  Atkinson        Saunders


Of course there were the odd changes here and there.  Thinking back, I don't remember Tony Daley featuring that much that season.  Guess he must have been injured.   

     

Daley did his cruciate very early on in the season.  He was my favourite player at the time so remember that vividly. 

My season ticket was in the Witton Lane Stand that season.  The last year it was the single tier stand.  Used to bloody love sitting there. We had a fantastic group of lads sat with us.
I was only 8 that season, and there was a bloke called H who sat nearby - just around the half way line.  Gave me £1 every home game.
He used to shout "I don't like it Willa (with his false teeth) You've gotta move".  Brings a tear to my eye.
Title: Re: Dean Saunders home debut - full MOTD highlights
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on November 19, 2015, 09:32:45 AM
I remember going to see his debut at Leeds the week before. Nil Nil? Sunday game?

1-1. He had a goal disallowed for offside. Parker scored ours, Steve Hodge for them.

Jesus, I though it was just my short term memory that's shot to pieces. Looks like my long term memory is no better...

Slight tangent, but on a Deano theme - does anyone remember the Chapter and Verse video? Haven't seen it for years, and it's probably very much of its time, but it was brilliant
Title: Re: Dean Saunders home debut - full MOTD highlights
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on November 19, 2015, 09:40:54 AM
Full Chapter and Verse video here





Title: Re: Dean Saunders home debut - full MOTD highlights
Post by: garyshawsknee on November 19, 2015, 11:00:50 AM
One of my favourite ever games I've been to. Drove up in my brothers Astra mark one with a leeky sunroof, had to stop off on the way to buy a bin liner to stop the leak. Great performance, teasing of Walters made the day too.
Title: Re: Dean Saunders home debut - full MOTD highlights
Post by: Holte L2 on November 19, 2015, 12:14:10 PM
Full Chapter and Verse video here







Going to watch that tonight!
Title: Re: Dean Saunders home debut - full MOTD highlights
Post by: tomd2103 on November 19, 2015, 01:25:07 PM
Will watch this when I get home tonight.  Apart from the last couple of months, what a season that was.  One of the last seasons of 'proper football' before Sky got a real hold on the game.  I can still name the starting XI for most of that season:

                           Spink

Barrett         McGrath     Teale    Staunton

Houghton    Richardson   Parker     Froggatt

                  Atkinson        Saunders


Of course there were the odd changes here and there.  Thinking back, I don't remember Tony Daley featuring that much that season.  Guess he must have been injured.   

     

Daley did his cruciate very early on in the season.  He was my favourite player at the time so remember that vividly. 

My season ticket was in the Witton Lane Stand that season.  The last year it was the single tier stand.  Used to bloody love sitting there. We had a fantastic group of lads sat with us.
I was only 8 that season, and there was a bloke called H who sat nearby - just around the half way line.  Gave me £1 every home game.He used to shout "I don't like it Willa (with his false teeth) You've gotta move".  Brings a tear to my eye.

I remember H in the Witton Lane, as we used to sit right by him as well.  A real character!
Title: Re: Dean Saunders home debut - full MOTD highlights
Post by: levico on November 19, 2015, 03:21:22 PM
Certainly in my top 5 games of all time.

Very sad to see how far we have dropped since then.
Title: Re: Dean Saunders home debut - full MOTD highlights
Post by: Holte L2 on November 19, 2015, 03:30:50 PM
Will watch this when I get home tonight.  Apart from the last couple of months, what a season that was.  One of the last seasons of 'proper football' before Sky got a real hold on the game.  I can still name the starting XI for most of that season:

                           Spink

Barrett         McGrath     Teale    Staunton

Houghton    Richardson   Parker     Froggatt

                  Atkinson        Saunders


Of course there were the odd changes here and there.  Thinking back, I don't remember Tony Daley featuring that much that season.  Guess he must have been injured.   

     

Daley did his cruciate very early on in the season.  He was my favourite player at the time so remember that vividly. 

My season ticket was in the Witton Lane Stand that season.  The last year it was the single tier stand.  Used to bloody love sitting there. We had a fantastic group of lads sat with us.
I was only 8 that season, and there was a bloke called H who sat nearby - just around the half way line.  Gave me £1 every home game.He used to shout "I don't like it Willa (with his false teeth) You've gotta move".  Brings a tear to my eye.

I remember H in the Witton Lane, as we used to sit right by him as well.  A real character!

Lovely bloke.  We used to sit next to a bloke called Skinner too. Another character.
I think H passed away some time ago though? Wish there was some old photos going around in order to reminisce.
Title: Re: Dean Saunders home debut - full MOTD highlights
Post by: kiddylion on November 19, 2015, 06:10:05 PM
Full Chapter and Verse video here




Watching that makes you realise how much the game has changed since Sky took over.
The players all down to earth even paying for there own food in the canteen at the training ground.
Much prefer football back then



Title: Re: Dean Saunders home debut - full MOTD highlights
Post by: Clark W Griswold on November 20, 2015, 02:02:33 PM
Garry Parker looks like he really made us tick in midfield.
Title: Re: Dean Saunders home debut - full MOTD highlights
Post by: Deano's Mullet on November 20, 2015, 03:32:50 PM
Garry Parker looks like he really made us tick in midfield.


Parker, Houghton and Richardson were a great midfield trio supplemented by either Daley or Froggatt depending on which one was fit. Its a shame for Parker that the following summer we signed Andy Townsend and Parker became a semi-regular from that time on. Townsend did well in the big league cup games of 1993-94 but really didn't find consistent form until Brian Little's first full season. Still baffles me why BFR sold Froggatt and Daley when he signed John Fashanu the same summer who would have thrived on their crosses.
Title: Re: Dean Saunders home debut - full MOTD highlights
Post by: AV82EC on November 20, 2015, 06:52:26 PM
Garry Parker looks like he really made us tick in midfield.


Parker, Houghton and Richardson were a great midfield trio supplemented by either Daley or Froggatt depending on which one was fit. Its a shame for Parker that the following summer we signed Andy Townsend and Parker became a semi-regular from that time on. Townsend did well in the big league cup games of 1993-94 but really didn't find consistent form until Brian Little's first full season. Still baffles me why BFR sold Froggatt and Daley when he signed John Fashanu the same summer who would have thrived on their crosses.

Froggatt was never the same after he got "done" in the Dalian goal of the season Wimbledon game. Didn't he have to retire early? Didn't Daley do his ACL around then and had to retire when his contract was up?
Title: Re: Dean Saunders home debut - full MOTD highlights
Post by: Deano's Mullet on November 21, 2015, 08:57:13 PM
Garry Parker looks like he really made us tick in midfield.


Parker, Houghton and Richardson were a great midfield trio supplemented by either Daley or Froggatt depending on which one was fit. Its a shame for Parker that the following summer we signed Andy Townsend and Parker became a semi-regular from that time on. Townsend did well in the big league cup games of 1993-94 but really didn't find consistent form until Brian Little's first full season. Still baffles me why BFR sold Froggatt and Daley when he signed John Fashanu the same summer who would have thrived on their crosses.

Froggatt was never the same after he got "done" in the Dalian goal of the season Wimbledon game. Didn't he have to retire early? Didn't Daley do his ACL around then and had to retire when his contract was up?

Froggatt had a few good games in 1993-94, particularly Swindon at home where he played left back as Staunton and Small were both injured, he even scored in that one. Daley featured in the majority of games in his final season. He wasn't consistent though which is maybe why BFR  signed Phil King at left back while pushing  Steve Staunton into  the left of midfield. He also had speedy players like Yorke and Lamptey that he probably thought could do a job on the wing. Staunton was a pretty good left midfielder and had plenty of assists that year.
Title: Re: Dean Saunders home debut - full MOTD highlights
Post by: tomd2103 on November 22, 2015, 11:42:04 PM
I often have thought back as to why we were never able to really kick on from that second place finish.  I suppose the younger members of the squad at the time (Yorke, Ugo, Bosnich) were not quite the players they would later become at that point, so the strength in depth wasn't really there. 
Title: Re: Dean Saunders home debut - full MOTD highlights
Post by: Holte L2 on November 23, 2015, 10:08:53 AM
I often have thought back as to why we were never able to really kick on from that second place finish.  I suppose the younger members of the squad at the time (Yorke, Ugo, Bosnich) were not quite the players they would later become at that point, so the strength in depth wasn't really there. 

Big Ron's biggest weakness was his inability to sign younger players.  In hindsight that summer he should have signed Collymore from Southend instead of Guy Wittingham.
And a younger centre midfielder instead of re-signing Cowans to play alongside Townsend and Richardson.

Title: Re: Dean Saunders home debut - full MOTD highlights
Post by: tomd2103 on November 24, 2015, 11:30:56 PM
Along with the 2000 FA Cup Final, missing out on the league that year remain my biggest disappointments as a Villa fan.  To have won the first Premier League title and the last FA Cup Final to be played at the old Wembley would have been good footnotes in the club's long history.
Title: Re: Dean Saunders home debut - full MOTD highlights
Post by: Holte L2 on November 25, 2015, 12:30:37 PM
Along with the 2000 FA Cup Final, missing out on the league that year remain my biggest disappointments as a Villa fan.  To have won the first Premier League title and the last FA Cup Final to be played at the old Wembley would have been good footnotes in the club's long history.

Agreed. Along with loosing the semi final to Bradford in 2013. Bastards.
Title: Re: Dean Saunders home debut - full MOTD highlights
Post by: Deano's Mullet on November 26, 2015, 10:15:26 PM
I often have thought back as to why we were never able to really kick on from that second place finish.  I suppose the younger members of the squad at the time (Yorke, Ugo, Bosnich) were not quite the players they would later become at that point, so the strength in depth wasn't really there. 

Big Ron's biggest weakness was his inability to sign younger players.  In hindsight that summer he should have signed Collymore from Southend instead of Guy Wittingham.
And a younger centre midfielder instead of re-signing Cowans to play alongside Townsend and Richardson.



can you imagine Collymore up front with Dalian? Mouthwatering on paper but a complete disaster if it had happened I reckon.
Title: Re: Dean Saunders home debut - full MOTD highlights
Post by: Holte L2 on December 03, 2015, 12:24:28 PM
I often have thought back as to why we were never able to really kick on from that second place finish.  I suppose the younger members of the squad at the time (Yorke, Ugo, Bosnich) were not quite the players they would later become at that point, so the strength in depth wasn't really there. 

Big Ron's biggest weakness was his inability to sign younger players.  In hindsight that summer he should have signed Collymore from Southend instead of Guy Wittingham.
And a younger centre midfielder instead of re-signing Cowans to play alongside Townsend and Richardson.



can you imagine Collymore up front with Dalian? Mouthwatering on paper but a complete disaster if it had happened I reckon.

Bit like Fashanu and Atkinson.
Title: Re: Dean Saunders home debut - full MOTD highlights
Post by: garyshawsknee on December 03, 2015, 12:31:57 PM
Along with the 2000 FA Cup Final, missing out on the league that year remain my biggest disappointments as a Villa fan.  To have won the first Premier League title and the last FA Cup Final to be played at the old Wembley would have been good footnotes in the club's long history.

Agreed. Along with loosing the semi final to Bradford in 2013. Bastards.

Messing up the 1990 season still leaves me in a cold sweat at times.
Title: Re: Dean Saunders home debut - full MOTD highlights
Post by: castlefields_villan on December 03, 2015, 02:13:45 PM
1990 was a big disappointment, especially as we were on for the double at one point
 - but 1992-93 was worse for me - the football that season was exhilarating. 
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