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Title: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on November 03, 2015, 07:32:43 PM
I haven't done one of these since my self-imposed sacking the other season.

Sunday 8.11.15 1.30pm KO

0-2 to them.

Good luck, Remi. Sort the shambles out, please. Just give us a glimmer of hope for the future.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: peter w on November 03, 2015, 07:33:11 PM
Park.The.Bus.

0-3
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: curlytailavfc on November 03, 2015, 07:36:06 PM
0-5
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on November 03, 2015, 07:36:23 PM
I expect we'll lose, but I want to see Gana, Veretout, Ayew, Amavi, Gil and probably Adama involved in some capacity.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: aj2k77 on November 03, 2015, 07:38:58 PM
Brutal battering.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Louzie0 on November 03, 2015, 07:39:19 PM
I just want to know - or would like to know - who's the other optimist voting for a Villa win?

And
Go, Garde!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on November 03, 2015, 07:39:37 PM
I expect we'll lose, but I want to see Gana, Veretout, Ayew, Amavi, Gil and probably Adama involved in some capacity.
All of those please!
And Kozak?
Ilori at least on the bench...or we'll never know what the lad looks like!

Think we'll nick this one....Hart: og.
:D
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on November 03, 2015, 07:40:52 PM
You might think it's me Louzie, but I couldn't possibly comment!


Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on November 03, 2015, 07:42:23 PM
And you need to remove "Tim" from your name!!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on November 03, 2015, 07:43:08 PM
2-1 Villa win.

The world will sit in silence, open mouthed.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Louzie0 on November 03, 2015, 07:43:21 PM
You might think it's me Louzie, but I couldn't possibly comment!



Understood.
As for the Tim I have a request pending....
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on November 03, 2015, 07:45:58 PM
You might think it's me Louzie, but I couldn't possibly comment!



Understood.
As for the Tim I have a request pending....
Intriguing!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: atomicjam on November 03, 2015, 07:46:59 PM
2-1 Villa win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on November 03, 2015, 07:50:07 PM
2-1 Villa win.

The world will sit in silence, open mouthed.
With new added Gallic shrug.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: oswald funkletrumpet on November 03, 2015, 07:56:53 PM
is that c*** delph likely to feature?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Tom_Mc9? on November 03, 2015, 07:59:41 PM
Aston Villa 3-0 Manchester City.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on November 03, 2015, 08:03:53 PM
is that c*** delph likely to feature?
Think he's on the bench for Ci£y tonight, so looking likely(ish).
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on November 03, 2015, 08:07:58 PM
I can't see us getting anything, but I'd like us to give it a go.

Not sure if Gueye will be available.

Guzan
Hutton Richards Clark Amavi
Sanchez Veretout
Grealish       Gil        Sinclair
Ayew
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Louzie0 on November 03, 2015, 08:11:01 PM
Aston Villa 3-0 Manchester City.

Well cool username.




Have you thought about entering Guess The Crowd?  It's never too late.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: MarkM on November 03, 2015, 08:11:21 PM
1-4
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Comrade Blitz on November 03, 2015, 08:12:47 PM
Them ****** need humbling

3-2

UTV!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: oswald funkletrumpet on November 03, 2015, 08:15:26 PM
is that c*** delph likely to feature?
Think he's on the bench for Ci£y tonight, so looking likely(ish).

should make for a lively atmosphere lol
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: clash city rocker on November 03, 2015, 08:16:57 PM
For the first time in a long time I would be happy to sit there and endure a 0-0 draw.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on November 03, 2015, 08:24:53 PM
Shouldn't the three poll options be 'narrow defeat' , 'heavy defeat' and 'really heavy defeat'?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: damon loves JT on November 03, 2015, 08:27:49 PM
I think we will play really well and be unlucky not to win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Steve R on November 03, 2015, 08:28:29 PM
3-0 minimum to Villa. It will be so one sided Mansour will buy himself a hybrid car and and couple of Kylie Minogue CDs to play on the way home.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Stu on November 03, 2015, 08:37:14 PM
Villa win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on November 03, 2015, 08:39:13 PM
Villa win.

This is what I love about this site, the humour.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: clash city rocker on November 03, 2015, 08:39:56 PM
I don't think we should boo delph after all he moved to help secure his children's futures. The pitance we paid him obviously made that impossible. He can across as a very honourable chap. A real family man who always thought of others before himself. We should welcome him back and show him we are not bitter. Perhaps a few polite shouts of 'judas' will make him feel at home.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: QuintonVilla on November 03, 2015, 08:46:20 PM
They're going to tear us a new arsehole.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on November 03, 2015, 08:52:48 PM
They're going to tear us a new arsehole.

To be honest I shall be quite relieved if it is just the one new arsehole that they tear us.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Goldie.7 on November 03, 2015, 08:54:46 PM
Going to go for 1-1 with them equalizing in the last 10 minutes.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ldavfc4eva on November 03, 2015, 08:56:13 PM
You just never know with city, they can as some put it 'tear you a new arsehole' or they can look average, not the latter very often but on the odd occasion.

I'd go for

Guzan

Amavi
Clark
Richards
Hutton

Sanchez
Gana

Sinclair
Veretout
Gil

Ayew
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 03, 2015, 08:57:08 PM
If we set up to have a go, you never know. If we enter with the mindset of damage limitation, we'll get battered.

We need pace to counter their midfield and wingers which, in Aguero's absence, are their main strength.

They'll only play one forward so don't even think about playing three centre-halves. Really can't decide who should play up front so I've gone Sinclair on the "bound to score against former club" principal.

Guzan

Hutton
Lescott (just keeps his place as Clark was so bad)
Richards
Amavi

Gil
Gana
Veretout
Sanchez
Ayew

Sinclair.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: CT on November 03, 2015, 09:04:22 PM
1-0. Fuck them.

Veretout will score the winner and we'll all have a jolly good chuckle at Delph.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on November 03, 2015, 09:10:05 PM
Next
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on November 03, 2015, 09:14:51 PM
Next

Yes, I might go menswear shopping rather than going to the game too.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: damon loves JT on November 03, 2015, 09:17:06 PM
Next

Yes, I might go menswear shopping rather than going to the game too.

top man
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: peter w on November 03, 2015, 09:22:15 PM
Guzan

hutton
okore
Lescott
Crespo
Clark
Amavi

Sanchez
Westwood
Gana
veretout
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on November 03, 2015, 09:25:57 PM
Villa win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: john e on November 03, 2015, 09:29:34 PM
I predict a meltdown on here if Gabby, Westwood and Richardson take the field
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Stu on November 03, 2015, 09:30:12 PM
Villa win.

Word.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: four fornicholl on November 03, 2015, 09:32:57 PM
we do ok against city
villa win
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Edge on November 03, 2015, 09:35:00 PM
Who knows? Can Remi make the team look organised in just 1 week? That would be a minor miracle after the total dog shit we have endured recently. I'm going with my heart with a 1-1. Guzan to set up their equaliser with a defence splitting pass to an unmarked millionaire in a sky blue kit.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Des Little on November 03, 2015, 09:38:30 PM
Villa win.

Like it boss
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Louzie0 on November 03, 2015, 09:41:32 PM
They're going to tear us a new arsehole.
I'd rather they didn't.

I think Remi might have a plan.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on November 03, 2015, 09:59:18 PM
They're going to tear us a new arsehole.
Well we gave them one at the start of the season in the shape of a snake.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Salsa Party Animal on November 03, 2015, 10:22:14 PM
Saw Man City beat Sevilla on TV tonight they are very dangerous so a 4-2 win for City :(
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Mossie Hennebry on November 03, 2015, 10:29:48 PM
The new regime has me all excited again, so I'm going for a Villa win. 3-2 Ayew, Sinclair (2). De Breuyne and Sterling for them.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on November 03, 2015, 10:50:06 PM
Norwich gave this lot a right game of it last weekend, hopefully we can do likewise. Will be very interesting to see what kind of time Garde puts together.

I'm hoping it will be mobile and well balanced.

---------------Bunn
Hutton, Richards, Clark, Amavi
--------Sanchez, Gueye-----
-----Traore, Veretout, Gil
-------------Ayew------------

subs - Guzan, Crespo, Richardson, Westwood, Bacuna, Gestede, Grealish
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Deano's Mullet on November 03, 2015, 11:05:47 PM
0-4
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 03, 2015, 11:08:39 PM
Hard fought draw. 1-1 and green shoots of optimism spotted.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on November 03, 2015, 11:08:50 PM
Norwich gave this lot a right game of it last weekend, hopefully we can do likewise. Will be very interesting to see what kind of time Garde puts together.

I'm hoping it will be mobile and well balanced.

---------------Bunn
Hutton, Richards, Clark, Amavi
--------Sanchez, Gueye-----
-----Traore, Veretout, Gil
-------------Ayew------------

subs - Guzan, Crespo, Richardson, Westwood, Bacuna, Gestede, Grealish

I know he comes highly rated, but it's a bit unfair to start comparing him to Fergie already! 😁
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on November 03, 2015, 11:20:25 PM
Was really looking forward to this one in the summer when you know who left, tremendous atmosphere at Vp and a chance to turn them over.

Now it all looks a damp squib to me, top v bottom and d*lph will probably get a 5 minute run out at the end when half the ground is empty.

0-3.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: passport1 on November 03, 2015, 11:21:02 PM
Another thumping.Our squad/team will be sadly exposed in this company.The one hope is they might go a bit easy due to their European game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 04, 2015, 12:40:13 AM
Us 2 Them 1. The return to greatness begins. And Hutton absolutely clatters Delph late on.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villadelph on November 04, 2015, 02:32:05 AM
I predict a meltdown on here if Gabby, Westwood and Richardson take the field

and rightly so..

What a tough game for Remi to start his tenure. I already know we'll give them a few goals, I just hope we can bag a couple ourselves. I know I should be excited about a new manager on board but I've just really lost interest at the moment.  :-\
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 04, 2015, 03:31:12 AM
I predict a meltdown on here if Gabby, Westwood and Richardson take the field

and rightly so..

What a tough game for Remi to start his tenure. I already know we'll give them a few goals, I just hope we can bag a couple ourselves. I know I should be excited about a new manager on board but I've just really lost interest at the moment.  :-\

As much as I don't want Gabby to play we have to trust the manager in the team he selects. These players will either start to play well and keep their places or eliminate themselves naturally. Gabby certainly didn't help himself yesterday, but that could be said of a few of them. I am hoping though that between Randy's comments about the large investments made in players over the summer, whatever discussion Garde has had with Randy and Tom Fox regarding objectives and what he has seen with his own eyes will lead to the correct team decisions. I certainly however would hope to see Ayew start over Gabby and Gil come in with Gana returning for starters.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VancouverLion on November 04, 2015, 03:33:36 AM
A badly needed draw to stop the rot, 2-2 with a late Gestede header after coming off the bench.

I'd love to see a midfield of;

       Sanchez  Gueye

Gil.        Veretout.     Grealish

                Ayew

           
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: CT Villan on November 04, 2015, 03:40:34 AM
A badly needed draw to stop the rot, 2-2 with a late Gestede header after coming off the bench.

I'd love to see a midfield of;

       Sanchez  Gueye

Gil.        Veretout.     Grealish

                Ayew

           

Agree and I'd be fine with Sinclair instead of Grealish too. Traore, Kozak and Gestede on the bench.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: l_mckay on November 04, 2015, 08:00:15 AM
A decent performance but a 2-1 defeat
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VicMackey on November 04, 2015, 08:07:22 AM
Us 2 Them 1. The return to greatness begins. And Hutton absolutely clatters Delph late on.

Would be very amusing if Hutton was to manage that while Delph is still on the bench...

I expect we'll get battered.  But we live in hope and football is, after all, a funny old game...

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: maigrait on November 04, 2015, 08:56:38 AM
I'd say 1-3 to City... and thats with them taking it easy. I would have liked a home win (or draw) for Remi's first game in charge but just can't see it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Mortimer's Bear on November 04, 2015, 09:01:23 AM
I expect we'll lose, but I want to see Gana, Veretout, Ayew, Amavi, Gil and probably Adama involved in some capacity.

What he said.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on November 04, 2015, 09:07:35 AM
I expect we'll lose, but I want to see Gana, Veretout, Ayew, Amavi, Gil and probably Adama involved in some capacity.

What he said.

thirded
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dr Butler on November 04, 2015, 09:17:13 AM
AVFC 1-0 Man Ci££y (a snake og 88 )

UTV
The Doc
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on November 04, 2015, 09:21:31 AM
I predict a meltdown on here if Gabby, Westwood and Richardson take the field

and rightly so..

What a tough game for Remi to start his tenure. I already know we'll give them a few goals, I just hope we can bag a couple ourselves. I know I should be excited about a new manager on board but I've just really lost interest at the moment.  :-\

As much as I don't want Gabby to play we have to trust the manager in the team he selects. These players will either start to play well and keep their places or eliminate themselves naturally. Gabby certainly didn't help himself yesterday, but that could be said of a few of them. I am hoping though that between Randy's comments about the large investments made in players over the summer, whatever discussion Garde has had with Randy and Tom Fox regarding objectives and what he has seen with his own eyes will lead to the correct team decisions. I certainly however would hope to see Ayew start over Gabby and Gil come in with Gana returning for starters.
I think Gabby will be "injured"...a bit like the kid who gets his mum to write a note because he doesn't want to do rugby in PE because it will be rough and a bit cold.
And he will be expected to run around and look interested.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: AVH87 on November 04, 2015, 09:32:06 AM
Well our last 2 managers have started with a defeat, could Remi make it third time lucky? If Burnley beat this lot last season, we've got a chance.

Get Gana and Sanchez protecting the back four, with Gil pulling strings infront of them. Ayew to start up front. Less fussed on the wingers, 2 from Grealish, Sinclair, Traore I guess.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: phantom limb on November 04, 2015, 09:33:30 AM
I've gone for an overly optimistic draw. I'm really interested in Garde's first team selection, and will be both shocked and baffled if his starting eleven includes Gabby.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on November 04, 2015, 09:58:40 AM
I've gone for an overly optimistic draw. I'm really interested in Garde's first team selection, and will be both shocked and baffled if his starting eleven includes Gabby.

If Gabby starts, some of the alternatives must be terrible in training, and we really are fucked.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: AVH87 on November 04, 2015, 10:40:13 AM
Aguero definitely out and just seen that Silva didn't feature last night and is a doubt, nailed on home win then.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: tj66 on November 04, 2015, 10:51:42 AM
Let's hope Remi has been pointed in the direction of this site rather than Kmac's notes and analysis.  Almost everyone on here has the same basic 9 players with only a couple of variants and we almost all want at least 6 changes to Monday's starting line up, and some as many as 8 or 9.
Personally I'd only have Grealish and Traore on the bench as the lack of tracking back, if we include both, will put huge pressure on the back 6(?) and Gil and Ayew obviously have to start and we probably need Sanchez, Gueye and Veretout in front of the defence. Sinclair probably gets the nod to play alongside Ayew - will have something to prove and their pace is our best option with Gil threading the passes through.
Defence has to have Amavi, Richards and I suppose Hutton, after Monday's effort (though must run back not jog/walk) and then preferably Okore if match fit.

Subs - Bunn, Crespo, Clark, Grealish, Traore, Kozak, Bacuna
I fear though that it would be a very brave man (though that is what we need) to make 7 changes after 6 days and we'll all be a little disappointed - I expect Lescott, for one, will keep his place.
I do however expect to hear a lot of hissing if he, who shall not be named, is involved.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: oldtimernow on November 04, 2015, 10:56:22 AM
AVFC 1-0 Man Ci££y (a snake og 88 )

UTV
The Doc

I like your optimism Doc....hope it becomes infectious
Title: Manuel Pellegrini will gauge Fabian Delph's state of mind before.......
Post by: Desi on November 04, 2015, 11:11:09 AM
 .....allowing him to run the gauntlet against former club Aston Villa.

 See more at: http://www.sportinastorm.com/Premier-League/Manchester-City/Pellegrini-to-check-on-midfielder's-mindset/X1Y47Z2005261#sthash.qstdlkoV.dpuf
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on November 04, 2015, 11:15:36 AM
.....allowing him to run the gauntlet against former club Aston Villa.

 See more at: http://www.sportinastorm.com/Premier-League/Manchester-City/Pellegrini-to-check-on-midfielder's-mindset/X1Y47Z2005261#sthash.qstdlkoV.dpuf

...leaving him on the bench or out of the squad, as with pretty much ever other game past, present or future in his Man City career.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: simon ward 50 on November 04, 2015, 12:02:10 PM
Aston Villa 3-0 Manchester City.

I'll have what you're drinking!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: aj2k77 on November 04, 2015, 12:12:05 PM
Aston Villa 3-0 Manchester City.

I'll have what you're drinking!

Anti freeze.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: in exile on November 04, 2015, 12:16:27 PM
At the risk of being breath/drug tested, I've gone for a draw
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Marlon's Hairy Wood on November 04, 2015, 12:28:55 PM
--------------------Guzan

Richards ---- Okore ----- Clark ---- Amavi

------------ Sanchez --- Gana

----------------- Veretout

Traore ----------------------------- Gil

------------------ Ayew

Subs: Bunn, Hutton, Ilori, Gardner, Grealish, Sinclair, Kozak.

Aston Villa 4 - 0 Manchester City

Substitutions: Gardner ON Sanchez OFF 60. Kozak ON Ayew OFF 65. Ilori ON Traore OFF 75.

Goals: Veretout 10, 67. Okore 22. Gardner 84.

A famous victory and celebratory pints all round in the Aston Tavern.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on November 04, 2015, 12:40:27 PM
--------------------Guzan

Richards ---- Okore ----- Clark ---- Amavi

------------ Sanchez --- Gana

----------------- Veretout

Traore ----------------------------- Gil

------------------ Ayew

Subs: Bunn, Hutton, Ilori, Gardner, Grealish, Sinclair, Kozak.

Aston Villa 4 - 0 Manchester City

Substitutions: Gardner ON Sanchez OFF 60. Kozak ON Ayew OFF 65. Ilori ON Traore OFF 75.

Goals: Veretout 10, 67. Okore 22. Gardner 84.

A famous victory and celebratory pints all round in the Aston Tavern.

What a ridiculous prediction.

It'll clearly be the 63rd minute when Gardner comes on for Sanchez.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on November 04, 2015, 12:48:30 PM

I do however expect to hear a lot of hissing if he, who shall not be named, is involved.

You mean Gabby right?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 04, 2015, 12:56:14 PM

I do however expect to hear a lot of hissing if he, who shall not be named, is involved.

You mean Gabby right?

That would be the sound of air being let out of the tire above his hips.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on November 04, 2015, 01:03:11 PM
I'm afraid that we're likely to get battered.  The defence will still be shit, the midfield pedestrian and the attack laughably bad.  However, I'd like to at least the emblance of a plan, a shape to the team and at least a hint that tactics are being worked on.

I'd go:

Hutton Richards Lescott Amavi
Gana Sanchez Veretout
Gil Ayew Grealish

That front three could really cause them problems, and with Gana (if he's fit) and Sanchez keeping things solid in the middle.  Gil and Grealish would be expected o put in a shift as well though.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle on November 04, 2015, 01:05:56 PM
Win or Draw for Villa is 2/1. As far as I'm concerned that's money in the bank.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Monty on November 04, 2015, 01:06:02 PM
I'm afraid that we're likely to get battered.  The defence will still be shit, the midfield pedestrian and the attack laughably bad.  However, I'd like to at least the emblance of a plan, a shape to the team and at least a hint that tactics are being worked on.

I'd go:

Hutton Richards Lescott Amavi
Gana Sanchez Veretout
Gil Ayew Grealish

That front three could really cause them problems, and with Gana (if he's fit) and Sanchez keeping things solid in the middle.  Gil and Grealish would be expected o put in a shift as well though.

Okore instead of Lescott if possible, but otherwise I agree with this team.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: tomd2103 on November 04, 2015, 01:14:21 PM
--------------------Guzan

Richards ---- Okore ----- Clark ---- Amavi

------------ Sanchez --- Gana

----------------- Veretout

Traore ----------------------------- Gil

------------------ Ayew


I would personally "reverse the midfield triangle" and have Sanchez sitting in front of the back four with Veretout and Gana a bit more advanced.  I don't see Ayew as an out-and-out front man, so in lieu of any other candidates (and seeing as Kozak has seemingly disappeared off the face of the Earth) I think we'll have to persist with Gestede.   
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Monty on November 04, 2015, 01:18:08 PM
Ayew might not be as used to playing up front on his own as Gestede is, but surely it's worth seeing if he'd be better at it? Gestede is just a waste of a shirt at the moment.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Marlon's Hairy Wood on November 04, 2015, 01:26:08 PM
Ayew might not be as used to playing up front on his own as Gestede is, but surely it's worth seeing if he'd be better at it? Gestede is just a waste of a shirt at the moment.

The problem at the moment is the style of players we use

Gestede wants the Downing and Young style players behind him who will simply take on a man and cross it in

where as Gil, Grealish and perhaps Traore want an Aguero style striker who only wants the ball played to feet in front of them

and because Gestede is utterly useless on the ground, thats why we've had trouble keeping the ball in the final third. At least with Ayew he can pass and move on a similar wavelength to Gil and Grealish
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on November 04, 2015, 01:36:13 PM
I might be wrong but I think Ayew played most of his football out wide for his previous club and it's where he looks most effective. Same goes for Sinclair really.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Monty on November 04, 2015, 01:39:46 PM
I might be wrong but I think Ayew played most of his football out wide for his previous club and it's where he looks most effective. Same goes for Sinclair really.

Sure, but the point is about our alternatives - would he look more or less effective than Gabby, Sinclair or Gestede through the middle? I think he's our best bet.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: damon loves JT on November 04, 2015, 02:20:24 PM
Aston Villa 3-0 Manchester City.

I'll have what you're drinking!

Anti freeze.

I think in the book it was cherry cough syrup.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: DBTW on November 04, 2015, 02:23:05 PM
Lets try and be brave: -

                                                 Guzan

                Richards          Crespo          Lescott           Amavi

                                                Sanchez

                              Gana                              Veretout

                                                    Gil

                                     Traore              Ayew




Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 04, 2015, 02:25:33 PM
Traore up front is interesting though I would play him a little deeper so he can run at defenders and cut in from the right. I don't know if he's instinctive enough to be a striker though having said that he certainly took his goal vs Notts County well.

Maybe Gil on one side and Traore on the other day behind Ayew.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Stirchley Villain on November 04, 2015, 02:40:07 PM
I can't see anything other than a convincing defeat here. Get it over with and move on.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Lobsterboy on November 04, 2015, 03:14:43 PM
They're the best side in the country, have a squad worth about a squillion pounds and buy our best players off us for fun.

We'll get beaten and probably quite convincingly but would be happy to simply see us play our best players in their best positions and take it from there

Would like to see Guzan, Hutton, Richards, Lescott, Amavi, Gana, Sanchez, Veretout, Gil, Sinclair, Ayew with subs: Bunn, Clark, Okore, Grealish, Gestede, Traore, Westwood

Not looking forward to this one to be honest...
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Alex77 on November 04, 2015, 03:21:34 PM

Not looking forward to this one to be honest...

I am quite looking forward to this one and it is the first game I've looked forward to in a long time. The result is immaterial, even if we get spanked 3/4/5 - 0, what I want to see is a little bit of progress in the way we set up and react to the changes in the game. That alone will give me some hope and let me actually look forward to the next game for a change!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Bad English on November 04, 2015, 03:56:11 PM
It's been a while but I can't wait until Saturday comes now.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on November 04, 2015, 03:58:32 PM
It's been a while but I can't wait until Saturday comes now.

Sunday!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: tomd2103 on November 04, 2015, 04:09:08 PM
I might be wrong but I think Ayew played most of his football out wide for his previous club and it's where he looks most effective. Same goes for Sinclair really.

Sure, but the point is about our alternatives - would he look more or less effective than Gabby, Sinclair or Gestede through the middle? I think he's our best bet.

Not so sure Monty.  The worst part of Ayew's game is his hold up play, so playing him up front on his own could see him struggle.  Also, when he played up front against Notts County, I lost number of the times he got caught offside.  I think he has shown flashes out wide and that is where I would play him for now. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: john e on November 04, 2015, 04:22:20 PM
It's been a while but I can't wait until Saturday comes now.

Ha ha, you on promise mate
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Monty on November 04, 2015, 04:33:14 PM
I might be wrong but I think Ayew played most of his football out wide for his previous club and it's where he looks most effective. Same goes for Sinclair really.

Sure, but the point is about our alternatives - would he look more or less effective than Gabby, Sinclair or Gestede through the middle? I think he's our best bet.

Not so sure Monty.  The worst part of Ayew's game is his hold up play, so playing him up front on his own could see him struggle.  Also, when he played up front against Notts County, I lost number of the times he got caught offside.  I think he has shown flashes out wide and that is where I would play him for now. 

You're still faced with the problem of who to play through the middle though. Assuming no Kozak, the only other option to play as the main striker is Scott Sinclair (given the soul-crushing poorness of Gabby and Gestede), and I'm not convinced he's much better in the role either.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: tomd2103 on November 04, 2015, 04:46:50 PM
I might be wrong but I think Ayew played most of his football out wide for his previous club and it's where he looks most effective. Same goes for Sinclair really.

Sure, but the point is about our alternatives - would he look more or less effective than Gabby, Sinclair or Gestede through the middle? I think he's our best bet.

Not so sure Monty.  The worst part of Ayew's game is his hold up play, so playing him up front on his own could see him struggle.  Also, when he played up front against Notts County, I lost number of the times he got caught offside.  I think he has shown flashes out wide and that is where I would play him for now. 

You're still faced with the problem of who to play through the middle though. Assuming no Kozak, the only other option to play as the main striker is Scott Sinclair (given the soul-crushing poorness of Gabby and Gestede), and I'm not convinced he's much better in the role either.

I honsetly think we are stuck with having to play Gestede until January.  Unless he has been genuinely awful in training ior has a terrible attitude, Kozak has surely got to be given a chance at some point. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Monty on November 04, 2015, 04:51:17 PM
See, Ayew might have his problems up front, but I'd still play him there instead of Gestede, who doesn't so much have flaws, but is more an actively detrimental influence on the team.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Gareth on November 04, 2015, 04:52:15 PM
1-2 - Delph to get a red card to give crowd a chance to vent the spleen

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: garyshawsknee on November 04, 2015, 05:16:27 PM
For how limited Gestede is, I'd have him upfront in preference to Ayew. Would play him left and Gil right of Gestede, who for me just doesnt seem fit. The game he played against Liverpool for Blackburn last, he was athletic and dynamic, albit one game. For us he looks like he's got his boots on the wrong feet.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on November 04, 2015, 05:21:03 PM
For how limited Gestede is, I'd have him upfront in preference to Ayew. Would play him left and Gil right of Gestede, who for me just doesnt seem fit. The game he played against Liverpool for Blackburn last, he was athletic and dynamic, albit one game. For us he looks like he's got his concrete boots on the wrong feet.

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ron Manager on November 04, 2015, 05:28:02 PM
I may be wrong ,as I have been before, but I think it is just possible that some of the home support may not take kindly to Fabian Delph showing his boat race inside Villa Park next Sunday. My guess is horrid horrid comments will be shouted at him by those behind the Man City bench. Ribald language may be heard and things may get out of hand.

Whatever will Remi make of it?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Monty on November 04, 2015, 05:33:51 PM
Gestede's inability to kick a ball makes the players around him worse. It might not work, but I'd much rather see if Ayew can play as a striker with creative midfielders supporting then just persevere with the Big Lump because he sort of looks like a striker.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: IAmTheOneIanOlney on November 04, 2015, 05:48:24 PM
Probably already been said, but I think Remi Garde will be quite happy this is his first game - we're expected to lose, so anything other than that is a bonus. If we do lose, he can hardly be held responsible less than a week into his job.
I'm not expecting much in terms of a result, but I'm really hoping for something encouraging in terms of the team selection and the performance.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Edge on November 04, 2015, 05:54:48 PM
I'm afraid that we're likely to get battered.  The defence will still be shit, the midfield pedestrian and the attack laughably bad.  However, I'd like to at least the emblance of a plan, a shape to the team and at least a hint that tactics are being worked on.

I'd go:

Hutton Richards Lescott Amavi
Gana Sanchez Veretout
Gil Ayew Grealish

That front three could really cause them problems, and with Gana (if he's fit) and Sanchez keeping things solid in the middle.  Gil and Grealish would be expected o put in a shift as well though.
I like your style but starting without a keeper even one as dodgy as Guzan is a bit risky!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Edge on November 04, 2015, 05:59:09 PM
Off to see Sir Paul Mcgrath at the Irish Centre tonight. Reliving some past glories might cheer me up. Maybe I'll be looking forward to Sunday with less dread after a few beers and hopefully meeting the great man himself. Oooh aaahh
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 04, 2015, 06:29:06 PM
Just got my ticket sorted, looking forward to it. Viva la revolution!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: aj2k77 on November 04, 2015, 06:47:35 PM
Off to see Sir Paul Mcgrath at the Irish Centre tonight. Reliving some past glories might cheer me up. Maybe I'll be looking forward to Sunday with less dread after a few beers and hopefully meeting the great man himself. Oooh aaahh

Give him an Oooh Ahhh Paul McGrath from me!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TheWarlock on November 04, 2015, 07:19:38 PM
Hard to see us getting anything out of a game v Man City even if we were having a good season never mind on a 7 defeat losing streak, loss no.8 unfortunately, hopefully we can keep it down to a couple of goals ill say 3-1 Man City with Gil to score a late consolation for us.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: QuintonVilla on November 04, 2015, 08:18:21 PM
0-5. Delph to come on with ten minutes left when the ground is empty.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on November 04, 2015, 08:30:40 PM
We haven't had a draw for ages so this could be the day. A decent 1-1.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Steve kirk on November 04, 2015, 11:13:05 PM
We haven't had a draw for ages so this could be the day. A decent 1-1.

Yes its time for our 2nd draw of the season, I'm also going for 1-1, no rhyme or reason for this prediction just a gut feeling, Mods any chance of the return of the orange dot for Remi's first match?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 04, 2015, 11:17:23 PM
I'm afraid that we're likely to get battered.  The defence will still be shit, the midfield pedestrian and the attack laughably bad.  However, I'd like to at least the emblance of a plan, a shape to the team and at least a hint that tactics are being worked on.

I'd go:

Hutton Richards Lescott Amavi
Gana Sanchez Veretout
Gil Ayew Grealish

That front three could really cause them problems, and with Gana (if he's fit) and Sanchez keeping things solid in the middle.  Gil and Grealish would be expected o put in a shift as well though.

With the proviso of playing a keeper (and I'd seriously think about Bunn, as Guzan just looks more and more like Scott Carson every week), I'd go for that line up too.

The absolute last thing I want to see is Sanchez paired with Westwood. If I see that, I know we've got no chance.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: OCD on November 04, 2015, 11:32:23 PM
Gestede's inability to kick a ball makes the players around him worse. It might not work, but I'd much rather see if Ayew can play as a striker with creative midfielders supporting then just persevere with the Big Lump because he sort of looks like a striker.

On the other hand, he's shown he'll score for fun with the right service. Presumably Amavi will be back in the team and possibly Bacuna, we would be getting players back in who can provide. Garde's philosophy and resolve are going to raise some interesting questions over the next few weeks. Our predicament might make it necessary to make some sacrifices.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Monty on November 04, 2015, 11:44:14 PM
Gestede's inability to kick a ball makes the players around him worse. It might not work, but I'd much rather see if Ayew can play as a striker with creative midfielders supporting then just persevere with the Big Lump because he sort of looks like a striker.

On the other hand, he's shown he'll score for fun with the right service. Presumably Amavi will be back in the team and possibly Bacuna, we would be getting players back in who can provide. Garde's philosophy and resolve are going to raise some interesting questions over the next few weeks. Our predicament might make it necessary to make some sacrifices.

I wouldn't exactly say 'for fun' - he missed a very easy chance the other day. And I'm not totally sold on the idea that the way to get the best out of our available players is to just go wide and cross it every time, all the time - that's been a big part of our strategy so far, and we can all see what it's yielded. He can head the ball sometimes, but the fact that he loses it so often should just disqualify him from starting alongside players like Gil, frankly, who need and deserve a good chunk of possession to make it count.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Edge on November 05, 2015, 12:08:49 AM
Off to see Sir Paul Mcgrath at the Irish Centre tonight. Reliving some past glories might cheer me up. Maybe I'll be looking forward to Sunday with less dread after a few beers and hopefully meeting the great man himself. Oooh aaahh

Give him an Oooh Ahhh Paul McGrath from me!
Done!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on November 05, 2015, 11:36:45 AM
2-2
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: AVH87 on November 05, 2015, 12:37:10 PM
42% think Villa won't lose, quite staggering really given the gulf in glass and difference in form. Let's hope they are proved right.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on November 05, 2015, 12:44:43 PM
The gulf in the glass is the only thing that keeps me going these days!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Holte L2 on November 05, 2015, 01:01:27 PM
                                                 Guzan

                  Ilori         Richards         Clark           Amavi

                                                Sanchez

                              Gana                             Veretout

                                                    Gil

                                     Adama              Ayew
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on November 05, 2015, 01:21:50 PM
I see folk keep picking Ilori but has anyone actually seen him play, in the squad or on the bench because I would not even know what he looks like never mind pick him in the squad

And as for having blind faith - its what is exciting about this league is that if we were to win it would not be THAT surprising as it happens a lot during a premiership season
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: tomd2103 on November 05, 2015, 01:35:42 PM
For how limited Gestede is, I'd have him upfront in preference to Ayew. Would play him left and Gil right of Gestede, who for me just doesnt seem fit. The game he played against Liverpool for Blackburn last, he was athletic and dynamic, albit one game. For us he looks like he's got his boots on the wrong feet.

I'm still giving him the benefit of the doubt at this point as he didn't play much at all in pre-season.  Can't see him being more than an impact sub for us in the long term, but he's got to be giveh a chance.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Edge on November 05, 2015, 02:12:46 PM
The gulf in the glass is the only thing that keeps me going these days!
I can see through what your doing
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 05, 2015, 02:13:45 PM
The gulf in the glass is the only thing that keeps me going these days!
I can see through what your doing

Leave him alone. He's doing just fine making a spectacle of himself.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on November 05, 2015, 02:25:00 PM
                                                 Guzan

                  Ilori         Richards         Clark           Amavi

                                                Sanchez

                              Gana                             Veretout

                                                    Gil

                                     Adama              Ayew

I like that

not sure Adama should start , get him on bench. Maybe give sinclair the nod .
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 05, 2015, 02:32:06 PM
I'd play 5 in midfield versus Man City including two wingers. Two up front would leave us way too open.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ron Manager on November 05, 2015, 02:35:05 PM
We await the new managers first selection with interest.Will he choose
who we want?.Or god forbid go with KMacs advice.I am surprised they
havent got rid of him.Very surprised indeed.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: in exile on November 05, 2015, 03:40:35 PM
The gulf in the glass is the only thing that keeps me going these days!
I can see through what your doing

Leave him alone. He's doing just fine making a spectacle of himself.
Don't say things like that. You will shatter his confidence
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Holte L2 on November 05, 2015, 05:43:24 PM
                                                 Guzan

                  Ilori         Richards         Clark           Amavi

                                                Sanchez

                              Gana                             Veretout

                                                    Gil

                                     Adama              Ayew

I like that

not sure Adama should start , get him on bench. Maybe give sinclair the nod .

Adama could surprise them being a bit of an unknown quantity. Especially up against Kolarov. Who knows his pace might even win us a penalty.
I'd give Adama a good 70 mins, and then bring Sinclair on.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: class-of-82 on November 05, 2015, 05:55:18 PM
Gestede as much as I want him to succeed reminds me of that big shaggy loveable dog in the park that chases everything.
Oh there's a duck over the other side I'll go chase that
Looks up there's a cat where I've just come from so bounds back over to the other side. then as he runs after the cat runs into a bin then sees the duck so chases it into the pond.

Bless him
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on November 05, 2015, 06:10:17 PM
The gulf in the glass is the only thing that keeps me going these days!
I can see through what your doing

Leave him alone. He's doing just fine making a spectacle of himself.
Don't say things like that. You will shatter his confidence
There's always one who's a bit of a pane isn't there?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: tomd2103 on November 05, 2015, 07:23:15 PM
I'd play 5 in midfield versus Man City including two wingers. Two up front would leave us way too open.

Yep or the other option would be to play a tight four in midfield.  Hindsight is wonderful, but that is probably what we should have done in the FA Cup final - have two defensive midfielders and two tucked in.  Teams like Manchester City absolutely destroy you if they get time and space in between your midfield and defence, so we need to make sure they don't.  It might limit us going forward, but it should make it more difficult for them. 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: russon on November 05, 2015, 08:37:05 PM
how do you say " we got torn a new one " in French?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: LukeJames on November 05, 2015, 09:33:31 PM
Even if we were playing well I'd still think we would lose this one, 1-3 City, however I just hope that after 10/15 minutes or so I can think aaaaagh yes so that's what we're trying to do, because I haven't had a bloody clue for the past couple of months.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: aj2k77 on November 05, 2015, 09:44:38 PM
It would be nice to look at a team sheet and think it hasn't been chosen with any hidden agendas or points to prove. Everyone given a fair shot.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ez on November 05, 2015, 09:49:45 PM
Can't see the new manager bounce kicking in this weekend. 1-3.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: AlexAlexCropley on November 05, 2015, 10:15:34 PM
how do you say " we got torn a new one " in French?
Nous nous sommes déchires une nouvelle sphincter
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 05, 2015, 10:36:56 PM
I honestly think it would be the most Aston Villa thing ever for us to actually win this game. It really is the sort of thing I can imagine happening, we're that much of a bewildering club in recent years.

Anyway, 0-3 defeat.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: damon loves JT on November 05, 2015, 11:33:00 PM
I honestly think it would be the most Aston Villa thing ever for us to actually win this game. It really is the sort of thing I can imagine happening, we're that much of a bewildering club in recent years.

Anyway, 0-3 defeat.

Villa are so counter-intuitive, they do the opposite of what you don't expect them to do.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 05, 2015, 11:35:03 PM
I honestly think it would be the most Aston Villa thing ever for us to actually win this game. It really is the sort of thing I can imagine happening, we're that much of a bewildering club in recent years.

Anyway, 0-3 defeat.

Villa are so counter-intuitive, they do the opposite of what you don't expect them to do.

A riddle wrapped in an enigma. Inside one of those russian doll things. Wrapped in a message. In a bottle.

That kind of shit.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on November 05, 2015, 11:38:13 PM
We're going to get dry humped. 0-lots.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: damon loves JT on November 05, 2015, 11:46:05 PM
We're going to get dry humped. 0-lots.

Well yes
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Damo70 on November 06, 2015, 12:00:30 AM
how do you say " we got torn a new one " in French?


L' Ambert.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 06, 2015, 01:37:03 AM
Didn't we win the last time we had a French manager for a game vs Man City at Villa Park? I'm going for a surprise win 1-0.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: robbo1874 on November 06, 2015, 02:40:50 AM
New manager bounce. 2-1 Villa.

In my fkn dreams
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: HK Villan on November 06, 2015, 06:33:32 AM
Is it ever acceptable to dream about recurrent hamstring injuries for opposing players?  Just wondering.

Villa to win 2-1.  Traore to score the winner.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on November 06, 2015, 07:20:57 AM
Is it acceptable to dream about a saltwater crocodile injury to opposition players?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rigadon on November 06, 2015, 07:48:01 AM
Is it acceptable to dream about a saltwater crocodile injury to opposition players?

Only in ssssssssssssssssssssome casesssssssss
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Edge on November 06, 2015, 07:57:11 AM
Even if we were playing well I'd still think we would lose this one, 1-3 City, however I just hope that after 10/15 minutes or so I can think aaaaagh yes so that's what we're trying to do, because I haven't had a bloody clue for the past couple of months.
I  agree but make that the last couple of years
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on November 06, 2015, 08:05:28 AM
Is it acceptable to dream about a saltwater crocodile injury to opposition players?
Depends on whether you're crying crocodile tears afterwards!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TaxDodger on November 06, 2015, 08:27:23 AM
I dreamt that he walked accross a very sharp cattle grid in an extremely heavy hat.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on November 06, 2015, 09:15:22 AM
how do you say " we got torn a new one " in French?


L' Ambert.

Oui. Nous allons à nouveau.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Monty on November 06, 2015, 09:16:11 AM
The team will be really interesting. It's possible that he might not start Grealish or Amavi, but I look at our squad and think that our cautious option at left back isn't Richardson, but Crespo. Likewise, if Grealish isn't the player or type of player to pick (presumably with Gil in the team), why does that mean we pick Gabby? Sinclair and Ayew are much better counter-attacking alternatives. I would like to think that Remi will have no patience for the coasting dross that was guaranteed to start in the team under Sherwood.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: aj2k77 on November 06, 2015, 10:29:44 AM
Something from the last few games, as we continued to remove our better players we signed in the summer from the squad and re-introduce the Brits we could trust our passing success rate dropped from an average of around 77-78% down to 72% and then 64%. I'm in no doubt that Garde has already seen Richardson, Bacuna, Gabby, Lescott are fucking crap and remove them from the team.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ktvillan on November 06, 2015, 10:45:52 AM
I honestly think it would be the most Aston Villa thing ever for us to actually win this game. It really is the sort of thing I can imagine happening, we're that much of a bewildering club in recent years.

Anyway, 0-3 defeat.

Actually I don't think that would be typical of us at all. I can't remember us winning against the odds very often in my near 50 years of supporting.  We tend to have periods where we are consistently good, consistently mediocre,  or consistently bad.  When we are bad we tend to be depressingly, predictably so,  to the extent that any struggling team identifies us as a chance to get themselves back on track, and any team doing well chalks it up as an easy 3 points.  There have been exceptions, Bent's home debut for example,  maybe the semi last year, but very rare in my experience.  Sadly I can't see it being much different this weekend unless Remi has a magic wand.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Laughing Policeman on November 06, 2015, 10:51:13 AM
Predictable loss. However there's always the pundits " New manager bounce" to cling to.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 06, 2015, 10:57:43 AM
Last year we won at Anfield and Spurs. Year before we won at Arsenal and beat Chelsea & Man City at home.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Edge on November 06, 2015, 11:19:54 AM
Last year we won at Anfield and Spurs. Year before we won at Arsenal and beat Chelsea & Man City at home.
I like your style. You've renewed my optimism.
So its got to be 2-1 to The Villa
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ktvillan on November 06, 2015, 11:25:27 AM
Last year we won at Anfield and Spurs. Year before we won at Arsenal and beat Chelsea & Man City at home.

Not sure we won those when we were on the crest of a complete slump though - certainly Anfield was at the start of the season when we were on our only decent run of the season until Sherwood's mini (3-4 game) revival, during which we beat Spuds.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Hookeysmith on November 06, 2015, 12:02:12 PM
It would be nice to look at a team sheet and think it hasn't been chosen with any hidden agendas or points to prove. Everyone given a fair shot.
Or with a dart board
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ktvillan on November 06, 2015, 12:15:29 PM
I'm hoping to see Veretout given a start or at least a good run out.  As we're not expected to get anything out of this it's a good opportunity to see what he can do, and for my money it would be hard to be worse than Westwood or Bacuna.   
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on November 06, 2015, 12:32:23 PM
I'm hoping to see Veretout given a start or at least a good run out.  As we're not expected to get anything out of this it's a good opportunity to see what he can do, and for my money it would be hard to be worse than Westwood or Bacuna.   

You can put my money on that too.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 06, 2015, 12:57:20 PM
The team could be anything. People shouldn't faint if some of our old warriors are in there. It will evolve over time but I certainly don't expect, at least initially, to see all of the French players in there, Traore, maybe not a return of Kozak yet. We need to stop the bleeding so I just hope he picks the right tactical formation and the right players to suit that.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on November 06, 2015, 01:33:36 PM
Heres a Tenner saying he will Pick Westwood and take a long time to work out his limitations.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on November 06, 2015, 01:42:10 PM
Heres a Tenner saying he will Pick Westwood and take a long time to work out his limitations.

You never know, he might apply some coaching and make him a better player.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on November 06, 2015, 01:48:50 PM
Heres a Tenner saying he will Pick Westwood and take a long time to work out his limitations.

How dare he play a player who will allow us to keep the ball. I'm sure he doesn't want players like that in his team.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: regular_john on November 06, 2015, 01:54:08 PM
(http://i68.tinypic.com/ibcunp.jpg)

This is how we win. This and prayer.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Monty on November 06, 2015, 01:55:04 PM
Disagree with a couple of things in the team, but how do you do the graphic? I like the graphic.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: damon loves JT on November 06, 2015, 02:05:57 PM
Yes, the graphic makes it look like you know what you're doing.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on November 06, 2015, 02:06:54 PM
(http://i68.tinypic.com/ibcunp.jpg)

This is how we win. This and prayer.

Swap Gestede with Ayew, and then with Grealish and you're cooking on gas.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Monty on November 06, 2015, 02:14:42 PM
On Delph, could we hiss instead of booing? Because, you know, snake.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Jameson on November 06, 2015, 02:26:46 PM
Yes, the graphic makes it look like you know what you're doing.

LOL, as the kids say.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on November 06, 2015, 02:33:10 PM
Heres a Tenner saying he will Pick Westwood and take a long time to work out his limitations.

You never know, he might apply some coaching and make him a better player.

Indeed I still think there's a decent player in Westwood, but he needs to be pushed and be in a team with a plan.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 06, 2015, 02:34:06 PM
Disagree with a couple of things in the team, but how do you do the graphic? I like the graphic.

That's Football Manager. Pesky kids.

For me Ayew has to be up front. Midfield three including Veretout. Gil and Traore just behind and playing either side of Ayew. Kind of like the Christmas tree formation

--------------------------Guzan------------------------------
--Richards---------Okore----------Clark------------Amavi--

-------------------Gana--------------Sanchez----------------
---------------------------Veretout----------------------------

---------------------Traore-------------Gil--------------------
--------------------------------Ayew---------------------------
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: in exile on November 06, 2015, 02:36:35 PM
I'm not sure that Westwood can play after concussed on Tuesday.
Don't professional sportsmen have to wait 7 days?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: AVH87 on November 06, 2015, 02:39:00 PM
----------Guzan----------

Hutton Richards Clark Amavi

-------Gana Sanchez-------
------------Gil------------

Sinclair Ayew Grealish


Would be my 4-3-3 / 4-2-1-3 pick.

Not opposed to Okore over Clark if match fit or maybe chucking Traore in for an out-of-form Grealish.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on November 06, 2015, 02:39:15 PM
I'm not sure that Westwood can play after concussed on Tuesday.
Don't professional sportsmen have to wait 7 days?

Yes, but he's only a footballer so it's ok.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on November 06, 2015, 02:39:35 PM
On Delph, could we hiss instead of booing? Because, you know, snake.
Don't think much organisation will be needed for this to happen Monty.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: in exile on November 06, 2015, 02:44:09 PM
I'm not sure that Westwood can play after concussed on Tuesday.
Don't professional sportsmen have to wait 7 days?

Yes, but he's only a footballer so it's ok.
Seriously?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ron Manager on November 06, 2015, 02:45:15 PM
On Delph, could we hiss instead of booing? Because, you know, snake.
Don't think much organisation will be needed for this to happen Monty.
A persistent chant of Judas will sound better on the TV!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on November 06, 2015, 02:47:09 PM
Disagree with a couple of things in the team, but how do you do the graphic? I like the graphic.

That's Football Manager. Pesky kids.

For me Ayew has to be up front. Midfield three including Veretout. Gil and Traore just behind and playing either side of Ayew. Kind of like the Christmas tree formation

--------------------------Guzan------------------------------
--Richards---------Okore----------Clark------------Amavi--

-------------------Gana--------------Sanchez----------------
---------------------------Veretout----------------------------

---------------------Traore-------------Gil--------------------
--------------------------------Ayew---------------------------

The Villa version would be like Xmas tree lights. Tangled up all over the place, flickering occasionally and then finally going out.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on November 06, 2015, 02:49:57 PM
Disagree with a couple of things in the team, but how do you do the graphic? I like the graphic.

That's Football Manager. Pesky kids.

For me Ayew has to be up front. Midfield three including Veretout. Gil and Traore just behind and playing either side of Ayew. Kind of like the Christmas tree formation

--------------------------Guzan------------------------------
--Richards---------Okore----------Clark------------Amavi--

-------------------Gana--------------Sanchez----------------
---------------------------Veretout----------------------------

---------------------Traore-------------Gil--------------------
--------------------------------Ayew---------------------------

The Villa version would be like Xmas tree lights. Tangled up all over the place, flickering occasionally and then finally going out.

Well the Sherwood version certainly involved changing every part randomly to try and find out which bit was broken.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: andyh on November 06, 2015, 02:54:32 PM
On Delph, could we hiss instead of booing? Because, you know, snake.
Don't think much organisation will be needed for this to happen Monty.

35 thousand people all going hiiiiiissssssssssssssssssssssss at the same time would be frigging brilliant ! 
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: john e on November 06, 2015, 02:59:18 PM
the line ups will all be proved wrong when N'zogbia comes running out the tunnel on sunday
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dr Butler on November 06, 2015, 02:59:45 PM
Pellegrini speaks :

On the potential inclusion of Fabian Delph against his old side, Pellegrini says: "Delph played for Villa but he’s a professional player and now he plays with us. I know he wants to play on Sunday."

The Chilean is also happy to see the midfielder turn out for his country: “It’s good for Fabian to play for England. He played some minutes in the Champions League & maybe he will play some on Sunday."




I'm looking forward to it Fabian :)

UTV
The Doc
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on November 06, 2015, 03:15:34 PM
I'm not sure that Westwood can play after concussed on Tuesday.
Don't professional sportsmen have to wait 7 days?

Yes, but he's only a footballer so it's ok.
Seriously?

Yeah, fuck it, why not?








*(No, not really)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on November 06, 2015, 03:29:21 PM
Brutal battering.

Good name for a heavy metal band.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Monty on November 06, 2015, 03:30:34 PM
On Delph, could we hiss instead of booing? Because, you know, snake.
Don't think much organisation will be needed for this to happen Monty.

35 thousand people all going hiiiiiissssssssssssssssssssssss at the same time would be frigging brilliant ! 

It's the hissing that I particularly like. Everybody boos, but if we hiss it'll be memorable.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: damon loves JT on November 06, 2015, 03:37:48 PM
Brutal battering.

Good name for a heavy metal band.

I liked their first album, 'Tear Us A New Arsehole'
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: BoskoDjembaSalifou on November 06, 2015, 04:21:46 PM
On Delph, could we hiss instead of booing? Because, you know, snake.

That would be embarrassing.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on November 06, 2015, 04:27:59 PM
On Delph, could we hiss instead of booing? Because, you know, snake.

That would be embarrassing.

Embarassssssssssssssing?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Smirker on November 06, 2015, 05:04:09 PM
Brutal battering.

Good name for a heavy metal band.

I liked their first album, 'Tear Us A New Arsehole'

 ;D
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on November 06, 2015, 05:06:48 PM
Brutal battering.

Good name for a heavy metal band.

I liked their first album, 'Tear Us A New Arsehole'

Urban myth that might be true.
Metallica's first album, Kill 'em All was originally to be called Metal Up Your Arse until the record company intervened.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on November 06, 2015, 05:11:55 PM
Yes, the graphic makes it look like you know what you're doing.
even if that team selection suggests otherwise ;)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: avfcdale on November 06, 2015, 05:26:55 PM
(http://i68.tinypic.com/ibcunp.jpg)

This is how we win. This and prayer.

Swap Gestede with Ayew, and then with Grealish and you're cooking on gas.

No perfect except need Kozak in for Gestete use him when Kozak is blowing out of his arse
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: gpbarr on November 06, 2015, 06:08:17 PM
(http://i68.tinypic.com/ibcunp.jpg)

This is how we win. This and prayer.

Swap Gestede with Ayew, and then with Grealish and you're cooking on gas.

No perfect except need Kozak in for Gestete use him when Kozak is blowing out of his arse

Switch Ayew for Gestede, and bring Veretout in to solidify midfield and allow Gana to roam a little
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ozzjim on November 06, 2015, 06:44:21 PM
Might be worth a thread but I thought it was interesting that Pelligrini said Villa wanted to sell Delph today.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on November 06, 2015, 06:45:38 PM
--------------------------Guzan------------------------------
--Hutton---------Okore----------Clark------------Amavi--

-------------------Gana--------------Sanchez----------------

---------------------------Veretout----------------------------

---------------------Gil-------------Ayew--------------------
----------------------------Kozak---------------------------

Assuming Okore and Kozak are fit and looking sharp in training.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Tom_Mc9? on November 06, 2015, 06:57:51 PM
Might be worth a thread but I thought it was interesting that Pelligrini said Villa wanted to sell Delph today.

Probably just trying to ease the pressure on Delph and onto Villa.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Smirker on November 06, 2015, 06:59:52 PM
Yeah pretty much my take on it as well.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: oswald funkletrumpet on November 06, 2015, 07:18:11 PM
(http://i68.tinypic.com/ibcunp.jpg)

This is how we win. This and prayer.

Swap Gestede with Ayew, and then with Grealish and you're cooking on gas.

No perfect except need Kozak in for Gestete use him when Kozak is blowing out of his arse

Switch Ayew for Gestede, and bring Veretout in to solidify midfield and allow Gana to roam a little

this

gestede should be nowhere near the first team
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villafirst on November 06, 2015, 07:34:10 PM
I see Pellegrini wants us to give Delph a warm welcome on his return to Villa Park......of course we will....
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: adrenachrome on November 06, 2015, 07:36:55 PM
An interesting article on the Sky Sports site favourably comparing Gueye with Delph using statistics.

Are Aston Villa missing Fabian Delph? Stats suggest they have bigger problems (http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11662/10054565/are-aston-villa-missing-fabian-delph-stats-suggest-they-have-bigger-problems)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Monty on November 06, 2015, 07:46:30 PM
An interesting article on the Sky Sports site favourably comparing Gueye with Delph using statistics.

Are Aston Villa missing Fabian Delph? Stats suggest they have bigger problems (http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11662/10054565/are-aston-villa-missing-fabian-delph-stats-suggest-they-have-bigger-problems)

That confirms what I thought - when Sherwood whinged about Delph not being replaced he was spouting a fountain of bullshit, as usual.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: andyh on November 06, 2015, 08:59:54 PM
I see Pellegrini wants us to give Delph a warm welcome on his return to Villa Park......of course we will....
Of coursssssssssssssssssssssssse !
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: preston28 on November 06, 2015, 09:49:55 PM
Sadly a 2-0 defeat. Monsieur Garde then get down to some serious work in the build up to Everton.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on November 06, 2015, 10:40:51 PM
It sure would be great to sneak a result. I know we will need luck but surely we are due some?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ian. on November 06, 2015, 10:53:38 PM
--------------------------Guzan------------------------------
--Hutton---------Okore----------Clark------------Amavi--

-------------------Gana--------------Sanchez----------------

---------------------------Veretout----------------------------

---------------------Gil-------------Ayew--------------------
----------------------------Kozak---------------------------

Assuming Okore and Kozak are fit and looking sharp in training.
I'd like to see this given a go.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ozzjim on November 06, 2015, 10:54:31 PM
On even a draw would be huge. Can you imagine a sneaky win. Would be incredible from where we are.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ozzjim on November 06, 2015, 10:55:43 PM
--------------------------Guzan------------------------------
--Hutton---------Okore----------Clark------------Amavi--

-------------------Gana--------------Sanchez----------------

---------------------------Veretout----------------------------

---------------------Gil-------------Ayew--------------------
----------------------------Kozak---------------------------

Assuming Okore and Kozak are fit and looking sharp in training.
I'd like to see this given a go.


I would have Richards in for Okore, then get Okore in after the break..
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ian. on November 06, 2015, 10:58:34 PM
I presumed he was out. Yes I would agree with Richards in there for now.
If and when Okore is fully fit I'd be tempted to shift Richards back to right back.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on November 06, 2015, 11:39:58 PM
On even a draw would be huge. Can you imagine a sneaky win. Would be incredible from where we are.

Its a huge ask but we need it, we really do. Even though we are expected to lose I think it will be really rough on fans and the players to come away with yet another zero points from a game.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Stirchley Villain on November 07, 2015, 12:25:13 AM
The new manager bounce will make this particular trip to VP more appetising. I'm still expecting a loss though... and relegation by mid March.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: peter w on November 07, 2015, 01:36:22 AM
At the moment beating Derby's record lowest points total looks a long-shot. I'm not even contemplating getting anything on Sunday.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villan from luton on November 07, 2015, 01:41:09 AM
--------------------------Guzan------------------------------
--Hutton---------Okore----------Clark------------Amavi--

-------------------Gana--------------Sanchez----------------

---------------------------Veretout----------------------------

---------------------Gil-------------Ayew--------------------
----------------------------Kozak---------------------------

Assuming Okore and Kozak are fit and looking sharp in training.
I'd like to see this given a go.


I would have Richards in for Okore, then get Okore in after the break..

Like this team, I would go Lescott ahead of Clark with Richards in the centre.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 07, 2015, 01:49:04 AM
This game won't save us or relegate us. But it will be most interesting to see what immediate differences Garde has made. Tactically, strategically and simply in terms of desire and attitude. There won't be a much harder test than this, so even if we lose which most people expect, the way we lose, for me will be more important than the actual result.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: peter w on November 07, 2015, 01:59:59 AM
Not really. We're playing the best team in the league who even if we were a lot higher could come and beat us easily. The test is a few games down the road when the new manager 'bounce' has worn off.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villan from luton on November 07, 2015, 02:01:36 AM
This game won't save us or relegate us. But it will be most interesting to see what immediate differences Garde has made. Tactically, strategically and simply in terms of desire and attitude. There won't be a much harder test than this, so even if we lose which most people expect, the way we lose, for me will be more important than the actual result.

I think it will be more interesting after the international break, gives him a chance to put his tactics across.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 07, 2015, 03:09:21 AM
This game won't save us or relegate us. But it will be most interesting to see what immediate differences Garde has made. Tactically, strategically and simply in terms of desire and attitude. There won't be a much harder test than this, so even if we lose which most people expect, the way we lose, for me will be more important than the actual result.

I think it will be more interesting after the international break, gives him a chance to put his tactics across.

well off course. I'm not suggesting there will be a massive shift so quickly. What I will say is that not having Sherwood/Kmac at the helm will have an effect. The question is what extent and for how long in the game? As the weeks go by the new philosophy will bed in and hopefully we all we will start to see the fruits of Garde's influence.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villan from luton on November 07, 2015, 03:13:20 AM
This game won't save us or relegate us. But it will be most interesting to see what immediate differences Garde has made. Tactically, strategically and simply in terms of desire and attitude. There won't be a much harder test than this, so even if we lose which most people expect, the way we lose, for me will be more important than the actual result.

I think it will be more interesting after the international break, gives him a chance to put his tactics across.

well off course. I'm not suggesting there will be a massive shift so quickly. What I will say is that not having Sherwood/Kmac at the helm will have an effect. The question is what extent and for how long in the game? As the weeks go by the new philosophy will bed in and hopefully we all we will start to see the fruits of Garde's influence.

Well of course lol. I just want 11 players on the field prepared to play for our beloved club, I think the tactics have been awful and I think there are players in that squad who can make a massive difference. Lets hope the new manager will show that
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Gregorys Boy on November 07, 2015, 08:49:06 AM
Even if City play below theirselves can still see them carving a functional 0-2. The revival may have to wait a week ::)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eric woolban woolban on November 07, 2015, 08:55:35 AM
I'm pretty much writing off this game and feel the season will start in earnest on Monday.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Des Little on November 07, 2015, 08:59:46 AM
Damage limitation and hope for the future is what it's all about tomorrow
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: aj2k77 on November 07, 2015, 09:13:12 AM
Just to add a little positivity, last season at their place when we conceded another late goal we were one of only a few teams during the last 3 seasons to have more possession than them.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on November 07, 2015, 09:51:24 AM
Welcome back, Fabian...

(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/12196316_10152974020987242_942127618861039342_n.jpg?oh=5d23e5fb0dc4d0e16f54dd23ab19abed&oe=56B71E0C)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Mister E on November 07, 2015, 09:57:30 AM
Citeh complacency and a little more guile from us: a score-draw, methinks.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on November 07, 2015, 10:01:35 AM
Well Norwich were minutes away from getting a draw at the Emptihad last week.

And Aguerro and Silva are out.

Yes we are massive underdogs but let's not write the game off completely.

I'll go for 1-1, and some positivity restored.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: stubbsyandy on November 07, 2015, 10:04:48 AM
The team needs our support more than ever right now, so I urge as many to get down there as possible and let the new manager and the team see we are right behind them
Whatever the result, I am strangely looking forward to this game
UTV
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rudy65 on November 07, 2015, 10:10:45 AM
Well Norwich were minutes away from getting a draw at the Emptihad last week.

And Aguerro and Silva are out.

Yes we are massive underdogs but let's not write the game off completely.

I'll go for 1-1, and some positivity restored.

Missing those two is great news for us. We might scrape a draw
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Stu on November 07, 2015, 10:20:47 AM
I want to go down tomorrow and take my Greek mate with me who has only been living in the city for a few months. However, I have been instructed told advised that I have to stay in to wait for a delivery from M&S.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: IAmTheOneIanOlney on November 07, 2015, 10:27:42 AM
I want to go down tomorrow and take my Greek mate with me who has only been living in the city for a few months. However, I have been instructed told advised that I have to stay in to wait for a delivery from M&S.
Surely they'll deliver to Villa Park.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Smirker on November 07, 2015, 10:58:55 AM
I want to go down tomorrow and take my Greek mate with me who has only been living in the city for a few months. However, I have been instructed told advised that I have to stay in to wait for a delivery from M&S.

Contact + ask to leave with neighbour.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Axl Rose on November 07, 2015, 11:52:56 AM
I'm going for 2-2.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Stu on November 07, 2015, 11:53:07 AM
Interesting comment from Manuel Pelegrini regarding Delph reported in the Graun here: Manuel Pellegrini: I hope Fabian Delph won’t be booed on return to Aston Villa (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/nov/06/manuel-pellegrini-fabian-delph-aston-villa-return)

Asked if Delph could expect a difficult welcome, Pellegrini said: “No, I hope he will not receive that. He played a lot of years for Aston Villa and Aston Villa wanted to sell him also. He continued being a player that gave a lot of his career to Aston Villa and I don’t think the fans will forget all those things.”

An eye-brow raising narrative for me, as I was under the impression that Villa wanted him to stay, what with being the club captain and everything, and it was a case that his new contract included a ridiculously-low release clause valuation.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Stu on November 07, 2015, 11:55:48 AM
Oh, and the M&S delivery came this morning so I'm going after all.

Even managed to annoy wife by being indisposed at the traps when the delivery turned up; she had to answer the door in her dressing gown.

That'll teach her.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on November 07, 2015, 12:01:39 PM
Welcome back, Fabian...

(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/12196316_10152974020987242_942127618861039342_n.jpg?oh=5d23e5fb0dc4d0e16f54dd23ab19abed&oe=56B71E0C)

Love it and I shall shamelessly steal that!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Holte132 on November 07, 2015, 12:06:47 PM
Oh, and the M&S delivery came this morning so I'm going after all.

Even managed to annoy wife by being indisposed at the traps when the delivery turned up; she had to answer the door in her dressing gown.

That'll teach her.

Your wife has a door in her dressing gown?




Sorry! I'll be quiet now.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Stu on November 07, 2015, 12:08:14 PM
Oh, and the M&S delivery came this morning so I'm going after all.

Even managed to annoy wife by being indisposed at the traps when the delivery turned up; she had to answer the door in her dressing gown.

That'll teach her.

Your wife has a door in her dressing gown?




Sorry! I'll be quiet now.

You mean yours doesn't?!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on November 07, 2015, 12:08:32 PM
Interesting comment from Manuel Pelegrini regarding Delph reported in the Graun here: Manuel Pellegrini: I hope Fabian Delph won’t be booed on return to Aston Villa (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/nov/06/manuel-pellegrini-fabian-delph-aston-villa-return)

Asked if Delph could expect a difficult welcome, Pellegrini said: “No, I hope he will not receive that. He played a lot of years for Aston Villa and Aston Villa wanted to sell him also. He continued being a pl
ayer that gave a lot of his career to Aston Villa and I don’t think the fans will forget all those things.”


An eye-brow raising narrative for me, as I was under the impression that Villa wanted him to stay, what with being the club captain and everything, and it was a case that his new contract included a ridiculously-low release clause valuation.

That is a pitiful attempt to defend his actions. We paid for about 6 years of his career while we stood by him through injury and then got two good years out of him. I'm sure he'll win some titles at Citeh, but it doesn't change the fact that he used us and betrayed us. Not all footballers deserve booing when they first go back to their old clubs, Ashley Young didn't, but Delph fully does.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TonyD on November 07, 2015, 12:17:51 PM
Come from 2.1 down to win 4.2.   Going to check the best odds on that.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on November 07, 2015, 12:47:48 PM
Come from 2.1 down to win 4.2.   Going to check the best
odds on that.
You'll have to pass a drugs test before they'll let you place that bet.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Jimbo on November 07, 2015, 01:05:14 PM
I had a dream we won one-nil. I must stop drinking creosote before bedtime.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on November 07, 2015, 01:53:18 PM
The team selection is massive tomorrow. I hope Traore has been good in training as any defender will be worried about his ability and pace. This would stop them from surrounding our penalty box in fear of the counter attack. Also some appearance from Kozak would be refreshing .....
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: garyshawsknee on November 07, 2015, 01:56:21 PM
Would be a big bonus to see Kozak on the bench.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: London Villan on November 07, 2015, 02:25:43 PM
Please let's see some changes...
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Edge on November 07, 2015, 02:32:00 PM
Would be a big bonus to see Kozak on the bench.
Is he still alive?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: in exile on November 07, 2015, 02:46:36 PM
Oh, and the M&S delivery came this morning...
M&S you say?...kinky devil
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: mr underhill on November 07, 2015, 03:30:03 PM
I certainly hope the team selection is more courageous than the one predicted in the Daily Wail
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: gpbarr on November 07, 2015, 04:04:45 PM
Im part of the 60% but hope the 20% are right!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on November 07, 2015, 04:49:05 PM
Interesting comment from Manuel Pelegrini regarding Delph reported in the Graun here: Manuel Pellegrini: I hope Fabian Delph won’t be booed on return to Aston Villa (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/nov/06/manuel-pellegrini-fabian-delph-aston-villa-return)

Asked if Delph could expect a difficult welcome, Pellegrini said: “No, I hope he will not receive that. He played a lot of years for Aston Villa and Aston Villa wanted to sell him also. He continued being a pl
ayer that gave a lot of his career to Aston Villa and I don’t think the fans will forget all those things.”


An eye-brow raising narrative for me, as I was under the impression that Villa wanted him to stay, what with being the club captain and everything, and it was a case that his new contract included a ridiculously-low release clause valuation.

That is a pitiful attempt to defend his actions. We paid for about 6 years of his career while we stood by him through injury and then got two good years out of him. I'm sure he'll win some titles at Citeh, but it doesn't change the fact that he used us and betrayed us. Not all footballers deserve booing when they first go back to their old clubs, Ashley Young didn't, but Delph fully does.
the Ashley Young that dived to get a penalty against us. He deserves all the stick he gets and a load more the cheating little twat.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 07, 2015, 04:54:28 PM
If I were Pellegrini I wouldn't include Delph in the squad. They really need the win so why give the crowd an excuse to get worked up and create a hostile atmosphere? We've already got the positivity of a new manager, why give us something else. For those reasons I hope he does pick him, but in his shoes, i'd leave him in Manchester. It's not like he's a vital part of their side so they'll hardly misssssssssssssss him any way (snigger).
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Witton Warrior on November 07, 2015, 05:27:49 PM
If I were Pellegrini I wouldn't include Delph in the squad. They really need the win so why give the crowd an excuse to get worked up and create a hostile atmosphere? We've already got the positivity of a new manager, why give us something else. For those reasons I hope he does pick him, but in his shoes, i'd leave him in Manchester. It's not like he's a vital part of their side so they'll hardly misssssssssssssss him any way (snigger).

Well that would spoil my day!
Been practicing my booing all week
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on November 07, 2015, 05:40:57 PM
Interesting comment from Manuel Pelegrini regarding Delph reported in the Graun here: Manuel Pellegrini: I hope Fabian Delph won’t be booed on return to Aston Villa (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/nov/06/manuel-pellegrini-fabian-delph-aston-villa-return)

Asked if Delph could expect a difficult welcome, Pellegrini said: “No, I hope he will not receive that. He played a lot of years for Aston Villa and Aston Villa wanted to sell him also. He continued being a pl
ayer that gave a lot of his career to Aston Villa and I don’t think the fans will forget all those things.”


An eye-brow raising narrative for me, as I was under the impression that Villa wanted him to stay, what with being the club captain and everything, and it was a case that his new contract included a ridiculously-low release clause valuation.

That is a pitiful attempt to defend his actions. We paid for about 6 years of his career while we stood by him through injury and then got two good years out of him. I'm sure he'll win some titles at Citeh, but it doesn't change the fact that he used us and betrayed us. Not all footballers deserve booing when they first go back to their old clubs, Ashley Young didn't, but Delph fully does.
And fair play to the Grauniad for including an excellent "other side of the story" piece by the magnificent Mr Woodhall!



(do I now get a discount?)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on November 07, 2015, 05:44:50 PM
Here (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/nov/06/what-fabian-delph-did-at-aston-villa-was-farcical)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on November 07, 2015, 05:50:11 PM
Cheers Leeg.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ez on November 07, 2015, 06:02:09 PM
The team selection is massive tomorrow. I hope Traore has been good in training as any defender will be worried about his ability and pace. This would stop them from surrounding our penalty box in fear of the counter attack. Also some appearance from Kozak would be refreshing .....

If Gabby starts i think i'll cry.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on November 07, 2015, 06:03:43 PM
(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/12196231_10153743245692658_1134160997025661128_n.jpg?oh=4f37a00f9b49aa20c7f1c5e9616194c6&oe=56C76BE8)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 07, 2015, 06:13:09 PM
Nicked
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Steve R on November 07, 2015, 07:54:08 PM
Interesting comment from Manuel Pelegrini regarding Delph reported in the Graun here: Manuel Pellegrini: I hope Fabian Delph won’t be booed on return to Aston Villa (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/nov/06/manuel-pellegrini-fabian-delph-aston-villa-return)

Asked if Delph could expect a difficult welcome, Pellegrini said: “No, I hope he will not receive that. He played a lot of years for Aston Villa and Aston Villa wanted to sell him also. He continued being a player that gave a lot of his career to Aston Villa and I don’t think the fans will forget all those things.”

An eye-brow raising narrative for me, as I was under the impression that Villa wanted him to stay, what with being the club captain and everything, and it was a case that his new contract included a ridiculously-low release clause valuation.

Pellegrini is quite correct. As soon as we discovered that Delph had an 8 mill release clause in his contract we couldn't wait to cash in.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on November 07, 2015, 08:49:12 PM
Interesting comment from Manuel Pelegrini regarding Delph reported in the Graun here: Manuel Pellegrini: I hope Fabian Delph won’t be booed on return to Aston Villa (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/nov/06/manuel-pellegrini-fabian-delph-aston-villa-return)

Asked if Delph could expect a difficult welcome, Pellegrini said: “No, I hope he will not receive that. He played a lot of years for Aston Villa and Aston Villa wanted to sell him also. He continued being a player that gave a lot of his career to Aston Villa and I don’t think the fans will forget all those things.”

An eye-brow raising narrative for me, as I was under the impression that Villa wanted him to stay, what with being the club captain and everything, and it was a case that his new contract included a ridiculously-low release clause valuation.

Pellegrini is quite correct. As soon as we discovered that Delph had an 8 mill release clause in his contract we couldn't wait to cash in.

Indeed. It must have come as a real surprise to our management to find out what the terms of one of our own player's contract were!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on November 07, 2015, 10:06:21 PM
I had a dream we won one-nil. I must stop drinking creosote before bedtime.

On the plus side, you can throw away that cumbersome umbrella.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: rob_bridge on November 07, 2015, 10:19:24 PM
Here (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/nov/06/what-fabian-delph-did-at-aston-villa-was-farcical)


Ta. Good stuff from Mr Woodhall
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Archie on November 08, 2015, 07:44:33 AM
As our friend Frank said, let's hope that our support for the Villa today achieves more than it did yesterday for Fulham against the blues, mates!


(http://i65.tinypic.com/2zh2s2h.jpg)

(http://i63.tinypic.com/3028g1v.jpg)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: McGraths Dry Cleaning on November 08, 2015, 08:35:38 AM
Really looking forward to today's game - intrigued to see what team is selected and how the players carry themselves for the new manager. Everyone expects us to get nothing but if football was predictable no one would go and betting would not exist. Wonder if Delph is looking forward to today.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on November 08, 2015, 09:09:13 AM
Villa are 7/1 to win get it on
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on November 08, 2015, 09:09:42 AM
Oh and we're going to win 2-1
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: QuintonVilla on November 08, 2015, 09:13:48 AM
The 7/2 for Man City to win by 3 or more is more appealing.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on November 08, 2015, 09:22:34 AM
I'll say one thing I hope Remi doesn't come up with a MacDonald selection today!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: four fornicholl on November 08, 2015, 09:36:33 AM
as much as I want him to do the business all this talk of needing coaches doesn't instill me with much confidence
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: mr underhill on November 08, 2015, 09:41:36 AM
No one gives us a prayer to get anything out of this so I'm hoping for a bold adventurous team selection Remi. Just go for it. No Richardson no Mr Blobby.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: clash city rocker on November 08, 2015, 10:00:05 AM
We need 3 points Remi so just fuckin go for it...
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: saint13 on November 08, 2015, 10:57:07 AM
Although they are without there 2 best players I suspect Man City will play within themselves & beat us 2-0. What is of greater significance is the team he picks and the way they set up. Surely our overweight centre forward will be nowhere near the team or bench, (selling programmes, maybe?).

Hopefully we can generate a cracking atmosphere & at least start to build something with a decent performance. Good Luck Remi!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 08, 2015, 11:01:36 AM
It would be nice to see a starting line-up and see what he's trying to do rather than thinking "what the fuck is that?!!".
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Holtemeister on November 08, 2015, 11:07:17 AM
Response vital ... Result not so

If we dont respond the "bounce factor" of the new manager will be lost and we will have to rely on genuine long term improvement which i fear will come too late to save us.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Russ aka Big Nose on November 08, 2015, 11:19:31 AM
Really interesting/important team selection - I know that is a statement of the obvious.

Many (most?) will hope that Gabby, Lescott, and others will be nowhere near the team, but they are senior players and he has to, to an extent, get all of the playing squad to buy in to what he wants to do and his approach.

If he 'bombs' too many out they could undermine what he seeks to do - if performances and results improve their ability to rock the boat will be limited but if there is not an early improvement there will be plenty in the media happy to write up rumours of discontent and that our French gamble is not working.

I hope for some bold selection decisions but recognise he will have to temper that.

You could make a case for saying Citah is a free hit as we are not expected to get anything, but if we lose by 3 or 4 then that will offer the pundits all the ammunition they might want.

Having said that, I think (hope?) Garde will opt for a freshened line-up and a deserved point. UTV
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ron Manager on November 08, 2015, 11:29:01 AM
It would be nice to see a starting line-up and see what he's trying to do rather than thinking "what the fuck is that?!!".

If I see a midfield of Sanchez, Gueye and Veretout  I will be very impressed with Remi Garde. However if I see the name Agbonlahor in the starting line up I will be very far from happy as will most around me I should imagine.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: saunders_heroes on November 08, 2015, 11:29:45 AM
Response vital ... Result not so

If we dont respond the "bounce factor" of the new manager will be lost and we will have to rely on genuine long term improvement which i fear will come too late to save us.

Result is just as important as the response. We don't want to find ourselves 6 points adrift with an international break coming up.
Even a draw would be a great result. Come on Villa!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Monty on November 08, 2015, 11:30:54 AM
The result is considerably more important than the response, but some fight and some semblance of a plan would be a bit of consolation if (when) we lose.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on November 08, 2015, 11:38:25 AM
The results are very important in the Everton, Watford, Southampton, Newcastle, West Ham, Sunderland, Norwich and Palace games.

Not so much today.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on November 08, 2015, 11:40:53 AM
I will mulch over how we have, incredibly, won this  whilst clearing the leaves later this afternoon.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Leicester_Villian on November 08, 2015, 11:43:04 AM
Lets all get right behind the team today .....dont worry about the snake - best response to him is simply ignore him ....FOCUS on those in claret and blue !!!!

I am putting a jacket on thats never seen them lose so lets hope ........ well its a new jacket lol
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on November 08, 2015, 11:44:03 AM
The results are very important in the Everton, Watford, Southampton, Newcastle, West Ham, Sunderland, Norwich and Palace games.

Not so much today.
I think you will find that result is important is any game. You lose either 2 or 3 points if it's a bad result or vica-versa. (sorry!)
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on November 08, 2015, 11:48:19 AM
It would be nice to see a starting line-up and see what he's trying to do rather than thinking "what the fuck is that?!!".

Indeed.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on November 08, 2015, 11:48:42 AM
The results are very important in the Everton, Watford, Southampton, Newcastle, West Ham, Sunderland, Norwich and Palace games.

Not so much today.
I think you will find that result is important is any game. You lose either 2 or 3 points if it's a bad result or vica-versa. (sorry!)

We will stay up by winning games against likes of Norwich, Newcastle and Watford, today won't define things.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: supertom on November 08, 2015, 11:58:02 AM
Today is all about the starting line up for me. We're just about nailed on to get rolled over. There's not a hope in hell we're going to look coherant as a unit after a few days of training, so this is very much a write off for Garde. What I really want to see is some acknowledgement that the last 4-5 starting lineups have been completely and utterly misguided. I mean they've been utterly horrendous. The worst I can remember as a fan (putting aside B teams we've put out in Europe or Cups). The worry is, if he comes in and plays something similar to Sherwoods last couple and K Macs sides, that this is genuinely our best side. If that is the case then we are totally and utterly fucked. Because the last couple of lineups we've put out would be treading water in the Championship. There's no way some of these players should be in a Prem starting 11, let alone all piled into the same one. We can afford to carry one duffer per game, and of those duffers I'd be more inclined to carry Bacuna, who despite being shit can run for 90 minutes and also put in a decent cross. But Gabby and Westwood? No way.
Gabby in particular needs to be bombed out.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Jimbo on November 08, 2015, 12:00:18 PM
The results are very important in the Everton, Watford, Southampton, Newcastle, West Ham, Sunderland, Norwich and Palace games.

Not so much today.
I think you will find that result is important is any game. You lose either 2 or 3 points if it's a bad result or vica-versa. (sorry!)

We will stay up by winning games against likes of Norwich, Newcastle and Watford, today won't define things.

If we lose it won't matter too much, but if we win it'll be absolutely massive.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on November 08, 2015, 12:06:32 PM
The results are very important in the Everton, Watford, Southampton, Newcastle, West Ham, Sunderland, Norwich and Palace games.

Not so much today.
I think you will find that result is important is any game. You lose either 2 or 3 points if it's a bad result or vica-versa. (sorry!)

We will stay up by winning games against likes of Norwich, Newcastle and Watford, today won't define things.

If we lose it won't matter too much, but if we win it'll be absolutely massive.

5 points from Everton, Watford, Southampton games.
4 points from Newcastle and West Ham.
A win at Sunderland or Norwich.

That's what I want to see from Garde over next 6 weeks as that run of form would get us back in contention.

Today is neither here or there for me although hopefully won't get hammered.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: el león Benidorm on November 08, 2015, 12:14:15 PM
What time is the team announced?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ez on November 08, 2015, 12:20:22 PM
My heart says we will battle hard and win. My head says game over inside 10 minutes.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pbavfckuwait on November 08, 2015, 12:21:44 PM
Come on Villa give us something to hold onto, a performance that offers light after all the doom and gloom of the last 5 years.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: taylorsworkrate on November 08, 2015, 12:27:35 PM
I just really hope that whatever semblance of optimism there is, is not completely lost with the team announcement
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on November 08, 2015, 12:30:48 PM
N'zogbia/s back tell a friend........
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave Cooper please on November 08, 2015, 12:32:03 PM
No Westwood or Gabby in the squad, but Charlie is back on the subs bench!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Monty on November 08, 2015, 12:33:30 PM
Zog contributes more than Gabby.

Gana-Veretout-Sanchez! The midfield!

GIL STARTS REPEAT THIS IS NOT A DRILL GIL STARTS.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on November 08, 2015, 12:33:42 PM
Line up is exactly the same as the one I picked, I like Garde already!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave Cooper please on November 08, 2015, 12:33:56 PM
Guzan/Hutton Richards Clark Amavi/Sanchez Gana/Veretout Gil Sinclair/Ayew

Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on November 08, 2015, 12:34:10 PM
Guzan
Hutton
Clark
Richards
Amavi
Gana
Sanchez
Gil
Veretout
Ayew
Sinclair
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Monty on November 08, 2015, 12:35:33 PM
Grealish is on the bench, which is a tough decision but I completely understand why he's done it.

THE MANAGER MADE A DECISION AND IT MAKES SENSE
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on November 08, 2015, 12:35:37 PM
Much better line up though where the goals will come from is going to be a real problem up the transfer window when hopefully we can get someone in!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on November 08, 2015, 12:36:37 PM
And delph on their bench! Enjoy the walk to the dugout you little twat
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Karlos96 on November 08, 2015, 12:36:39 PM
Finally a decent line up, pretty much what most people have wanted to see for weeks.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on November 08, 2015, 12:36:52 PM
Not too bad, Gil starting was a no brainer, good Amavi is back and I'm intrigued how middle trio of Gana, Sanchez and Veretout looks, could be balanced.

Now off to the pub.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ormy Droid on November 08, 2015, 12:37:44 PM
Well bugger me, he's only gone and dropped the inherently useless, and picked a line up that makes some kind of sense!

Come on Villa!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: taylorsworkrate on November 08, 2015, 12:38:11 PM
Much much better line up than of late.

Finally, no Lescott which has been long overdue
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Jimbo on November 08, 2015, 12:38:13 PM
It wasn't that difficult after all.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on November 08, 2015, 12:39:17 PM
I see Charlie is on the bench. In from the cold.

Still, not a bad looking team, though he can't know everything about the players yet.

It'll be interesting to see what our game plan is and what the players do. I can't remember the last time our players knew what they were supposed to be doing.

Need to be extremely luck to get anything today, but here's hoping.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: saunders_heroes on November 08, 2015, 12:41:26 PM
Is Traore injured?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Axl Rose on November 08, 2015, 12:41:29 PM
Decent team. Come on Villa. Good luck Remi and the team.
2-2
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: charleeco7 on November 08, 2015, 12:41:34 PM
On paper that's probably our best side. Debatable whether I'd have stuck gestede in instead of Sinclair but man city are decent in the air so would have played a part in his thought process I guess.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: CT on November 08, 2015, 12:41:46 PM
Not that hard to pick a half decent team.

That looks a lot better.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ez on November 08, 2015, 12:41:57 PM
Better team selection. I wonder what was stopping Sherwood doing this.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on November 08, 2015, 12:42:03 PM
Who are the sub's and where's the match thread?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Mossie Hennebry on November 08, 2015, 12:43:03 PM
Looks like his been reading the forum! A lot of questions about this squad will be answered today. Come on Villa - fight like Lions!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: garyshawsknee on November 08, 2015, 12:43:27 PM
Kind of team we all wanted, glad the French lads and Gil are starting. UTV.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: cdward on November 08, 2015, 12:44:45 PM
No Agbonlahor, is it the start of the end for him. N'Zogbia on the bench- interesting. There is a good player in there, maybe he will start playing again. No Okore, obviously Clark is showing more than him. No Westwood.
Overall looks like the 11 most of us would pick, I think Sinclair will become our main goal threat.
Good team
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: 1_Pablo_Angel on November 08, 2015, 12:45:01 PM
Good to know Remi agrees with most on here.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: saint13 on November 08, 2015, 12:47:25 PM
Much better team selection, far more progressive. I still think we will lose today but I am hopeful of more positive signs for down the road, i.e. decent team shape, passing the ball with a purpose and the creation of a few chances. As an aside I hope Gabby will never be seen again in a Villa shirt.

Good Luck Remi!
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: alan_clarke on November 08, 2015, 12:47:30 PM
Is Westwood injured?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on November 08, 2015, 12:49:32 PM
Shay Given on 5Live saying players find it difficult to play at home at Villa Park because of the fans.

Before that gets slated, in no way did he suggest it's all the fans fault. In my mind, Guzan is a player who has zero confidence, which I think fans have had an impact on (again, not saying it's all the fans fault).

Can you remember the last time, in the league, you came away from Villa Park thinking the crowd was great, or even good?
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave Cooper please on November 08, 2015, 12:50:27 PM
Who are the sub's and where's the match thread?

Subs:

Bunn Bacuna Lescott Richardson N'Zogbia Gestede Grealish
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villasjf on November 08, 2015, 01:17:11 PM
Is Westwood injured?
He had concussion on Monday and I have heard it said on here that he cannot play for 7 days after that.
Title: Re: Aston Villa v Manchester City Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on November 08, 2015, 04:23:46 PM
Shay Given on 5Live saying players find it difficult to play at home at Villa Park because of the fans.

Before that gets slated, in no way did he suggest it's all the fans fault. In my mind, Guzan is a player who has zero confidence, which I think fans have had an impact on (again, not saying it's all the fans fault).

Can you remember the last time, in the league, you came away from Villa Park thinking the crowd was great, or even good?

Does he mean expectations or were negative of what?
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