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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: godzvilla on November 03, 2015, 11:41:58 AM
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I am surprised that no one else ( unless I,ve missed a posting ) has picked up or commented on this. If MacDonald was " disappointed" I was furious ( with Dean)............Godzvilla!
Aston Villa caretaker boss Kevin MacDonald was "disappointed" by referee Mike Dean's decision not to allow immediate treatment to Ashley Westwood after he suffered a head injury.
Midfielder Westwood was caught in the face by Mousa Dembele's flailing arm and went down injured in the first half of Monday's 3-1 defeat at Tottenham.
Play continued for about a minute before Dean ushered on a doctor.
"I'm glad it wasn't more serious," MacDonald said.
"It's a bit of disappointment the referee played on. Ashley had blurred vision - concussion. He's got a real bad headache but he's up and not so dizzy right now."
With new Villa boss Remi Garde watching from the stands, the 25-year-old was forced off in the 38th minute and, once team doctors had treated him by the side of the pitch, they asked for paramedics to be called.
Former England defender Danny Mills, who was at White Hart Lane as part of the BBC Radio 5 live commentary team, said: "I'm surprised at Mike Dean. It's a flailing arm. Dembele clearly hit him in the face and Mike Dean played on for a good minute or so. The referee clearly got that one wrong.
"If it is concussion then questions have to be asked of the referee. He was looking at the incident - he must have been looking right at it - he saw the player go down holding his face and didn't stop the game."
The Premier League introduced new rules on how to deal with head injuries from the start of the 2014-15 season after Tottenham were criticised for letting keeper Hugo Lloris continue playing after he lost consciousness in a goalless draw against Everton.
A player suffering a head injury must now leave the pitch and the club doctor must decide if a player is capable of continuing, not the team management.
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Danny Mills, he'd know all about flailing arms.
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Mike Dean clearly signaled to the doctor waiting on the sideline not to come on after Clark had put the ball out too - took another minute or so before he eventually waved him on. Pretty disgraceful stuff and something that should definitely be reviewed given the nature of the injury and the fact that it was at WHL where it was the quick thinking of officials and doctors that saved the life of Fabrice Muamba.
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Danny Mills, he'd know all about flailing arms.
Nasty little fucker he was.
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I think raising points about a summariser is misleading the issue here. I was screaming at the TV at the time - Westwood clearly went down holding his head and was visibly in distress, yet Dean was not going to stop play at all. In fact if Clark had not booted it out, play could well have gone on for several minutes. When he was eventually treated, it was very apparent that he was in no fit state to continue. Dean should be reprimanded for not stopping play and all referees should be again made aware of the possibilities of the impact of head injuries.
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It would suit me if Dean was struck off. Awful ref.
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Mike Dean shook his head and mouthed the word "no", despite the incident taking place right in front of him. I'd be interested to know his reasons for not stopping the game at the time when it was clearly a head injury.
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Dean should sit out a couple of games for this because it was clearly a blow to the head and refs are supposed to stop play in such circumstances (at least I think they do)
However, given the amount of play-acting that goes on, I do have some sympathy for refs in general.
Much harsher punishments should be brought in for players who feign injury. That way, the official can be fairly sure that if a player goes down, they're hurt.
If a player goes down the referee shouldn't have to decide whether they're injured or not.
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The main reason is that Mike Dean is an absolute twat.
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Don't you see that if he had to stop the game he'd have had to admit there was contact and a foul? He didn't want to give a foul which should also have been a sending off, we've seen them given before for less contact than this one. Is Dean a Spurs supporter? His goal celebration would make you question it surely.
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In fairness we had an opportunity to put it out before Clark did and didn't. Then again if it's the rules that the ref stops the game for head injuries I suppose that decision is out of the players' hands.
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Absolute twat/Spurs supporter?
Same thing.
:D
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Danny Mills, he'd know all about flailing arms.
Nasty little fucker he was.
He was. He's still quite an unpleasant man.
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Dean's a biased pissweasel.
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Don't you see that if he had to stop the game he'd have had to admit there was contact and a foul? He didn't want to give a foul which should also have been a sending off, we've seen them given before for less contact than this one. Is Dean a Spurs supporter? His goal celebration would make you question it surely.
He does not have to say that it was a foul. Personally I didn't think it was, but there was contact, accidental in my view, which had appeared to cause a head injury. For that the game should have been stopped immediately.
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This was a disgrace, Westy was clearly in pain and looked at one point as though he was being sick. I hope the club put a complaint in about the ref and what made me see red even more was in the commentary Alan Smith dismissing the incident as if it was a bit of acting to get Dembele in trouble! >:(
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This was a disgrace, Westy was clearly in pain and looked at one point as though he was being sick. I hope the club put a complaint in about the ref and what made me see red even more was in the commentary Alan Smith dismissing the incident as if it was a bit of acting to get Dembele in trouble! >:(
Of course, it's a London club
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Don't you see that if he had to stop the game he'd have had to admit there was contact and a foul? He didn't want to give a foul which should also have been a sending off, we've seen them given before for less contact than this one. Is Dean a Spurs supporter? His goal celebration would make you question it surely.
He does not have to say that it was a foul. Personally I didn't think it was, but there was contact, accidental in my view, which had appeared to cause a head injury. For that the game should have been stopped immediately.
It might not have been intentional but as I said flailing arms have resulted in red cards before. Even if it's not intentional it can still be a foul.
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I am loathe the criticise officials, especially when bullys such as the Chelsea manager are around but if I were the Ref's boss I would be having serious words with Dean. Not only did he put a players health at risk, he also invited criticism of his proffession for his, frankly shameful, reaction to the opening goal.
And as a club, we need to start standing up for ourselves. I hate the continual belating from most managers but a measured questioning of Mike Dean might have a bit more credence.
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How he didn't even spot it is beyond me, it was right on front of him. Booking Ayew five minutes after he came on just summed him up really.
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This was a disgrace, Westy was clearly in pain and looked at one point as though he was being sick. I hope the club put a complaint in about the ref and what made me see red even more was in the commentary Alan Smith dismissing the incident as if it was a bit of acting to get Dembele in trouble! >:(
Of course, it's a London club
Wellness given that Westwood could barely walk when he finally got up andat no point looked like coming back on then that's obviously the biggest load of bollocks since last night's teamsheet.
Regardless of suspicion of play acting or not, the ref has a duty of care which he failed to live up to.
There's been so much publicity about head injuries and concussions that he's got no excuse to hide behind, it really is one of those cases where safety first is the only acceptable course of action.
It might well be that he didn't think that there was much contact, but then Westwood is someone who'd struggle to wrestle a paper bag.
The Danish commentators couldn't believe it, saying that he must be looking for 2 or 3 weeks off. Given his generally awful performances when reffing us. 2 or 3 years wouldn't be too long.
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Danny Mills, he'd know all about flailing arms.
Nasty little fucker he was.
He was. He's still quite an unpleasant man.
What on earth makes you say that? I know him vaguely, through kids' football, and he's decent, down to earth, helps out, and definitely not a twat about his playing career. He's also not little :)
My view is also that he's a pretty good pundit, not quite Neville but just about best of the rest.
Anyway, back on topic, it was pretty shocking by Dean and he should face the consequences for it, amongst other aspects of his performance.
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The main reason is that Mike Dean is an absolute twat.
Have to say on a dreary afternoon that made me chuckle.
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We used to have a drop ball for when it wasnt a "foul" but treatment was needed.
And a ban for refs who miss the obvious.
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And a ban for refs who miss the obvious.
And a life time ban for any referee seen wildly celebrating a goal.
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As a usual defender of referees, I have to say that Dean was wrong. Irrespective of whether he thought it was 'playacting' or not,play should have been stopped and the level of injury or non-injury ascertained. Should the latter be found to be the case; then he has the wherewithall to deal with it accordingly...yellow card. If not the player gets the medical attention he needs and deserves, no problem. Dean needs to be reminded that at all times; player safety is paramount.
This scenario happened to me when I was a young referee and I didn't stop play to allow attention to the player for a head injury. As the trainer was taking the player off he said to me; in a civil manner, "you should have stopped the game when he got injured ref'. That's as true now as it was then, and a lesson to a young referee regarding having priorities right.
Mike Dean owes Ashley Westwood and, by extension Aston Villa a profound apology. He also needs a week off.
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In fairness we had an opportunity to put it out before Clark did and didn't. Then again if it's the rules that the ref stops the game for head injuries I suppose that decision is out of the players' hands.
Gabby could and should have put the ball out but didn't.
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Mike Dean is the great untouchable referee, he can make as many mistakes as he wants and he continually gets big games week in week out.
His arrogance that he was the boss is why he refused to stop the game....his grandstanding might have caused a nasty outcome.
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I must admit from the away end upper tier I thought Westwood was making a meal of it and was amazed he had to go off. We had a few chances to put the ball out but that would have deprived Gabby of one of his 6 touches.
Dean was wrong for not stopping the game sooner but was negligent in not allowing the trainer on when he did stop the game. One of the Villa players was waving the physio on but he obviously had to wait for the ref who had nothing to lose in allowing him on once he had stopped the game.
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I must admit from the away end upper tier I thought Westwood was making a meal of it and was amazed he had to go off. We had a few chances to put the ball out but that would have deprived Gabby of one of his 6 touches.
Dean was wrong for not stopping the game sooner but was negligent in not allowing the trainer on when he did stop the game. One of the Villa players was waving the physio on but he obviously had to wait for the ref who had nothing to lose in allowing him on once he had stopped the game.
I agree with that pat. it was gabby waving on the physio but there was also a Villa player - maybe Clark? - who was telling the physio not to come on. I thought Westwood was at it too and was wondering why he was walking off as if he'd been hit with a baseball bat around his head especially as he'd come back on to a well deserved chorus of boos. And then he went straight down the tunnel. the point being if he was that bad then the referee did have the option of stopping the game when we had the ball if he thought Westwood was trying to gain an advantage. Then if Westwood was as woozy as it appeared when he staggered off it is ineptitude at the highest level for Dean not to spot it and get the physio on immediately once the game had been stopped.
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I must admit from the away end upper tier I thought Westwood was making a meal of it and was amazed he had to go off. We had a few chances to put the ball out but that would have deprived Gabby of one of his 6 touches.
Dean was wrong for not stopping the game sooner but was negligent in not allowing the trainer on when he did stop the game. One of the Villa players was waving the physio on but he obviously had to wait for the ref who had nothing to lose in allowing him on once he had stopped the game.
I agree with that pat. it was gabby waving on the physio but there was also a Villa player - maybe Clark? - who was telling the physio not to come on. I thought Westwood was at it too and was wondering why he was walking off as if he'd been hit with a baseball bat around his head especially as he'd come back on to a well deserved chorus of boos. And then he went straight down the tunnel. the point being if he was that bad then the referee did have the option of stopping the game when we had the ball if he thought Westwood was trying to gain an advantage. Then if Westwood was as woozy as it appeared when he staggered off it is ineptitude at the highest level for Dean not to spot it and get the physio on immediately once the game had been stopped.
I think Clark was going ballistic at Dean for not getting the trainer on earlier. That's what it looked like from 600 miles away anyway. It looked as though he was heading straight for Dean as soon as play stopped.
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I have become full on unhinged after yesterdays game but even in my emotional state I think its an objective fact that Dean was extremely biased and did a terrible job overall.
In a reasonable world he would be suspended.
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WHY HAVENT WE AS A CLUB COMPLAINED!!!!!
it turned into a disgraceful incident
not mentioned anywhere as far as I know
imagine the scenario if fergie,jose or arsene were involved
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WHY HAVENT WE AS A CLUB COMPLAINED!!!!!
it turned into a disgraceful incident
not mentioned anywhere as far as I know
imagine the scenario if fergie,jose or arsene were involved
Especially as Dean always seems to give us absolutely fu*k all on a very regular basis!
I'm convinced he hates us and does all he can to influence games accordingly.
My heart sinks every time I see his name next to our game.
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I was getting really pissed off at him not stopping the game at the time and I think it was one of 3-4 genuinely terrible decisions he got wrong. The booking for Ayew was ridiculous given he'd just come on and he tried to pull out of the challenge, especially when you look at the one by Rose on Bacuna 10 minutes earlier that wasn't even a free kick, that inconsistency is infuriating.
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To quote Dr Michelle Roberts ( BBC )
" Any knock to the head can be dangerous, although thankfully most are not.
Anyone who has had a blow to the head should seek immediate medical attention regardless of how mild it might seem.
The force of the blow can cause the brain to twist, damaging nerves and tissue.
The skull's sharp interior ridges can tear arteries and veins running through the brain, allowing blood to leak.
As with any injured body part, there will be swelling and bruising too.
With nowhere to escape, the pressure can build and squeeze the brain.
This is a medical emergency.A seemingly innocuous injury can be fatal "
Its a big ´IF´but , if Westwood had , or God forbid may even still have , a serious head injury , as the facts above prove may be possible, I wonder how Mike Dean will feel.
Westy exhibited the tell tale dangerous symptoms i.e. Disorientation ,Vomiting,Problems balancing and that idiot kept the game going around him , despite the danger of him being knocked again.
It beggars belief that Villa have not made serious representations to the F.A.( assuming that they haven´t ) re the incredibly inept , stupid and wholly unprofessional conduct of Mike Dean....................Godzvilla!
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Gabby could and should have put the ball out but didn't.
He could have got up to the dizzy heights of eight or nine touches doing that.
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What struck me most about the incident which I witnessed last night was the length of time before the doctor was called on even after Dean had, belatedly, stopped the game. Just like a previous poster I am usually sympathetic where Premier League refs are concerned - it's a thankless task with all the instant analysis - but Dean was bang out of order last night.
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No more news about Westwood's injury today. I hope that means he is OK.
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That was a deliberate forearm blow by Dembele. He could've got a red card for that, or at the very least a yellow. The video panel should take another look but I bet they don't.
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Mike Dean's goal celebrations have even reached the media here.
http://sol.pt/noticia/420375/Mike-Dean-voltou-a-festejar-um-golo-do-Tottenham-#close
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Mike Dean's goal celebrations have even reached the media here.
http://sol.pt/noticia/420375/Mike-Dean-voltou-a-festejar-um-golo-do-Tottenham-#close
Thats shocking - I didn't see that at the time!! FFS... Ban this fecker Dean...
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Mike Dean's delay/refusal to let Westwood have treatment is a safety risk to the player. It needs looking in to.
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Mike Dean's goal celebrations have even reached the media here.
http://sol.pt/noticia/420375/Mike-Dean-voltou-a-festejar-um-golo-do-Tottenham-#close
I remember my initial reaction was that he'd disallowed it as the fist pumping gesture was not one I'd seen from a referee before.
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Mike Dean's goal celebrations have even reached the media here.
http://sol.pt/noticia/420375/Mike-Dean-voltou-a-festejar-um-golo-do-Tottenham-#close
I remember my initial reaction was that he'd disallowed it as the fist pumping gesture was not one I'd seen from a referee before.
I took the fist pumping action to be public admission that "I'm a wanker"
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Mike Dean's goal celebrations have even reached the media here.
http://sol.pt/noticia/420375/Mike-Dean-voltou-a-festejar-um-golo-do-Tottenham-#close
Thats shocking - I didn't see that at the time!! FFS... Ban this fecker Dean...
I've had a few messages from mates here asking "what's going to happen to the referee?"
When I tell them probably nothing, nobody can believe.
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Mike Dean's goal celebrations have even reached the media here.
http://sol.pt/noticia/420375/Mike-Dean-voltou-a-festejar-um-golo-do-Tottenham-#close
I posted a youtube clip on the post match thread showing this together with a couple of other examples of how he reacts when Spurs score or,conversely, lose possession!
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Mike Dean's goal celebrations have even reached the media here.
http://sol.pt/noticia/420375/Mike-Dean-voltou-a-festejar-um-golo-do-Tottenham-#close
I posted a youtube clip on the post match thread showing this together with a couple of other examples of how he reacts when Spurs score or,conversely, lose possession!
I saw that - pretty amazing when you see the various examples put together, never seen anything like it.
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Mike Dean's goal celebrations have even reached the media here.
http://sol.pt/noticia/420375/Mike-Dean-voltou-a-festejar-um-golo-do-Tottenham-#close
I posted a youtube clip on the post match thread showing this together with a couple of other examples of how he reacts when Spurs score or,conversely, lose possession!
I saw that - pretty amazing when you see the various examples put together, never seen anything like it.
He's not celebrating the goal. He is clearly signalling an advantage and then when that results in a goal he is pleased with his own decision. Storm in a teacup.
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Mike Dean's goal celebrations have even reached the media here.
http://sol.pt/noticia/420375/Mike-Dean-voltou-a-festejar-um-golo-do-Tottenham-#close
I posted a youtube clip on the post match thread showing this together with a couple of other examples of how he reacts when Spurs score or,conversely, lose possession!
I saw that - pretty amazing when you see the various examples put together, never seen anything like it.
He's not celebrating the goal. He is clearly signalling an advantage and then when that results in a goal he is pleased with his own decision. Storm in a teacup.
He needs to stop doing it then - that's the third time he's been caught on camera "signalling an advantage" after Spurs have scored. How hard can it be to insist that refs need to be seen to be totally impartial? And why is it always Dean?
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Mike Dean's goal celebrations have even reached the media here.
http://sol.pt/noticia/420375/Mike-Dean-voltou-a-festejar-um-golo-do-Tottenham-#close
I posted a youtube clip on the post match thread showing this together with a couple of other examples of how he reacts when Spurs score or,conversely, lose possession!
I saw that - pretty amazing when you see the various examples put together, never seen anything like it.
He's not celebrating the goal. He is clearly signalling an advantage and then when that results in a goal he is pleased with his own decision. Storm in a teacup.
He needs to stop doing it then - that's the third time he's been caught on camera "signalling an advantage" after Spurs have scored. How hard can it be to insist that refs need to be seen to be totally impartial? And why is it always Dean?
Looking again, he definitely signals before the shot is taken. The wheeling away bit is a tad over the top but not proof of bias.
The Westwood incident on the other hand...
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I don't know whether he is a Tottenham fan or not but the Westwood incident, right under his nose he could not fail to see. Maybe it was an accident but still nevertheless a foul. Now, just for a minute say he is a Tottenham fan and thinks "that's a foul, a dangerous area, I'll pretend I didn't see it and pretend I didn't see any contact to the Villa player's head that way I won't have to be scrutinized for a potential sending off afterwards".
Just a thought.
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Mike Dean's goal celebrations have even reached the media here.
http://sol.pt/noticia/420375/Mike-Dean-voltou-a-festejar-um-golo-do-Tottenham-#close
I posted a youtube clip on the post match thread showing this together with a couple of other examples of how he reacts when Spurs score or,conversely, lose possession!
I saw that - pretty amazing when you see the various examples put together, never seen anything like it.
He's not celebrating the goal. He is clearly signalling an advantage and then when that results in a goal he is pleased with his own decision. Storm in a teacup.
From what I see though he's signalling the advantage way after any foul could have taken place, not that there was a foul anyway. Also the stupid little swoop away thing he does and the little fist pump, it looks biased and really unprofessional but he's a completely shite ref so I wouldn't expect any less from that weasel fucker.
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In fairness we had an opportunity to put it out before Clark did and didn't. Then again if it's the rules that the ref stops the game for head injuries I suppose that decision is out of the players' hands.
Gabby could and should have put the ball out but didn't.
Did he try and missed the ball? Or did the touch count as one of the eight he did that half?
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Mike Dean's goal celebrations have even reached the media here.
http://sol.pt/noticia/420375/Mike-Dean-voltou-a-festejar-um-golo-do-Tottenham-#close
I posted a youtube clip on the post match thread showing this together with a couple of other examples of how he reacts when Spurs score or,conversely, lose possession!
I saw that - pretty amazing when you see the various examples put together, never seen anything like it.
He's not celebrating the goal. He is clearly signalling an advantage and then when that results in a goal he is pleased with his own decision. Storm in a teacup.
He needs to stop doing it then - that's the third time he's been caught on camera "signalling an advantage" after Spurs have scored. How hard can it be to insist that refs need to be seen to be totally impartial? And why is it always Dean?
Looking again, he definitely signals before the shot is taken. The wheeling away bit is a tad over the top but not proof of bias.
The Westwood incident on the other hand...
The youtube video mentioned in the post match thread carries on further and you see him do another gesture that could be easily interpreted as celebratory when he gets to the centre circle. Are you really telling me we have a ref that physically makes several celebratory gestures about his own decisions apparently being right? I wonder what he does when his 'right' decisions are actually wrong. Did he act out self flagellation or shooting himself in the head when the decision is shown to be wrong?
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Mike Dean's goal celebrations have even reached the media here.
http://sol.pt/noticia/420375/Mike-Dean-voltou-a-festejar-um-golo-do-Tottenham-#close
I posted a youtube clip on the post match thread showing this together with a couple of other examples of how he reacts when Spurs score or,conversely, lose possession!
I saw that - pretty amazing when you see the various examples put together, never seen anything like it.
He's not celebrating the goal. He is clearly signalling an advantage and then when that results in a goal he is pleased with his own decision. Storm in a teacup.
Agreed. It's obvious he was signalling the advantage and I thought so at the time. Can't believe fans are complaining about it. Embarrassing.
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Mike Dean's goal celebrations have even reached the media here.
http://sol.pt/noticia/420375/Mike-Dean-voltou-a-festejar-um-golo-do-Tottenham-#close
I posted a youtube clip on the post match thread showing this together with a couple of other examples of how he reacts when Spurs score or,conversely, lose possession!
I saw that - pretty amazing when you see the various examples put together, never seen anything like it.
He's not celebrating the goal. He is clearly signalling an advantage and then when that results in a goal he is pleased with his own decision. Storm in a teacup.
Agreed. It's obvious he was signalling the advantage and I thought so at the time. Can't believe fans are complaining about it. Embarrassing.
Yep, he's signalling advantage (worrying that he was therefore prob planning to give a pen if they didn't score though). However his reaction to the goal is over enthusiastic and makes him look a tit - he deserve some stick for that. Add on the fact he it a shit ref and a complete twunt and the fans complaining is understandable in my view.
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Mike Dean's goal celebrations have even reached the media here.
http://sol.pt/noticia/420375/Mike-Dean-voltou-a-festejar-um-golo-do-Tottenham-#close
I posted a youtube clip on the post match thread showing this together with a couple of other examples of how he reacts when Spurs score or,conversely, lose possession!
I saw that - pretty amazing when you see the various examples put together, never seen anything like it.
He's not celebrating the goal. He is clearly signalling an advantage and then when that results in a goal he is pleased with his own decision. Storm in a teacup.
Agreed. It's obvious he was signalling the advantage and I thought so at the time. Can't believe fans are complaining about it. Embarrassing.
The core of this thread is complaining about a ref who saw a potential serious injury happen, let play go on against normal procedures for the type of injury, and then contemplated not allowing medical treatment to be allowed.
The other bits where he also is pictured apparently celebrating a go.... sorry he waved play on and was still waving it 5 seconds after the ball went into the net, (that is a new one) and then indicated the restart by pumping his arm in the air 6 times (never seen that before either), is just coincidental. And don't forget the other video posted where he then signals something when back in the centre circle with a jump in the air. (Maybe it's an "it's a bit foggy" signal).
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His reaction after the goal is what I expect from ego-driven referrees - he considers himself "part of the entertainment" and therefore wheels away in reflected glory - knob
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Mike Dean's goal celebrations have even reached the media here.
http://sol.pt/noticia/420375/Mike-Dean-voltou-a-festejar-um-golo-do-Tottenham-#close
I posted a youtube clip on the post match thread showing this together with a couple of other examples of how he reacts when Spurs score or,conversely, lose possession!
I saw that - pretty amazing when you see the various examples put together, never seen anything like it.
He's not celebrating the goal. He is clearly signalling an advantage and then when that results in a goal he is pleased with his own decision. Storm in a teacup.
Agreed. It's obvious he was signalling the advantage and I thought so at the time. Can't believe fans are complaining about it. Embarrassing.
I agree on the point that it doesn't really matter how much he waves his arms around when signalling a decision. It makes him look a bit silly, but it's not the end of the world.
The Westwood incident is a pretty massive show of incompetence on his part though.
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My Italian colleague this morning informed me the Mike Dean video is doing the rounds in the football fraternity over there. He actually thought it was a fake video!
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Mike Dean's goal celebrations have even reached the media here.
http://sol.pt/noticia/420375/Mike-Dean-voltou-a-festejar-um-golo-do-Tottenham-#close
I posted a youtube clip on the post match thread showing this together with a couple of other examples of how he reacts when Spurs score or,conversely, lose possession!
I saw that - pretty amazing when you see the various examples put together, never seen anything like it.
He's not celebrating the goal. He is clearly signalling an advantage and then when that results in a goal he is pleased with his own decision. Storm in a teacup.
Agreed. It's obvious he was signalling the advantage and I thought so at the time. Can't believe fans are complaining about it. Embarrassing.
He was celebrating the fact that he played the advantage. I don't think it's something he should be doing though, it just looked wrong.
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Mike Dean's goal celebrations have even reached the media here.
http://sol.pt/noticia/420375/Mike-Dean-voltou-a-festejar-um-golo-do-Tottenham-#close
I posted a youtube clip on the post match thread showing this together with a couple of other examples of how he reacts when Spurs score or,conversely, lose possession!
I saw that - pretty amazing when you see the various examples put together, never seen anything like it.
He's not celebrating the goal. He is clearly signalling an advantage and then when that results in a goal he is pleased with his own decision. Storm in a teacup.
Agreed. It's obvious he was signalling the advantage and I thought so at the time. Can't believe fans are complaining about it. Embarrassing.
He was celebrating the fact that he played the advantage. I don't think it's something he should be doing though, it just looked wrong.
It shouldn't really be allowed though, refs fist pumping when a goal has been scored. If players can get booked for pulling their shirts over their heads when they score, refs should be warned about their actions. Although the only ref that seems to do it is Dean. And he's done it at least 3 times now, each one available on Youtube and all ( I think) involving situations which benefit Spurs.
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Thinking about it, what advantage was he meant to have played anyway? Clark didn't bring him down and didn't really impede Dembele's run that much.
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Thinking about it, what advantage was he meant to have played anyway? Clark didn't bring him down and didn't really impede Dembele's run that much.
Half the Spurs fans near us didn't have their arms in the air for as long as Dean did
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Mike Dean's goal celebrations have even reached the media here.
http://sol.pt/noticia/420375/Mike-Dean-voltou-a-festejar-um-golo-do-Tottenham-#close
I posted a youtube clip on the post match thread showing this together with a couple of other examples of how he reacts when Spurs score or,conversely, lose possession!
I saw that - pretty amazing when you see the various examples put together, never seen anything like it.
He's not celebrating the goal. He is clearly signalling an advantage and then when that results in a goal he is pleased with his own decision. Storm in a teacup.
Agreed. It's obvious he was signalling the advantage and I thought so at the time. Can't believe fans are complaining about it. Embarrassing.
He was celebrating the fact that he played the advantage. I don't think it's something he should be doing though, it just looked wrong.
That tosspot Graham Poll was on Talksport, unbelievably, on Monday afternoon talking about celebrating to himself when he'd given a good advantage.
It's a window into the conceit of these twats generally, the whole body needs shaking up. Unfortunately this will not happen because the status quo leaves room to manipulate them by the powerful clubs.
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Any referee will always tell you that it's a great feeling when you see an opportunity to play an advantage and you do so in a way that it ends in a goal being scored. There is absolutely no need to display your feelings in an ostentatious way as Mike Dean did. In my experience the player(s) involved in the incident always acknowledged the fact in one way or another, be it just, 'thanks ref' or a more ott display of gratitude. Either way; for a referee it's a real feel good factor.
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Mike Dean's goal celebrations have even reached the media here.
http://sol.pt/noticia/420375/Mike-Dean-voltou-a-festejar-um-golo-do-Tottenham-#close
I posted a youtube clip on the post match thread showing this together with a couple of other examples of how he reacts when Spurs score or,conversely, lose possession!
I saw that - pretty amazing when you see the various examples put together, never seen anything like it.
He's not celebrating the goal. He is clearly signalling an advantage and then when that results in a goal he is pleased with his own decision. Storm in a teacup.
Agreed. It's obvious he was signalling the advantage and I thought so at the time. Can't believe fans are complaining about it. Embarrassing.
He was celebrating the fact that he played the advantage. I don't think it's something he should be doing though, it just looked wrong.
That tosspot Graham Poll was on Talksport, unbelievably, on Monday afternoon talking about celebrating to himself when he'd given a good advantage.
It's a window into the conceit of these twats generally, the whole body needs shaking up. Unfortunately this will not happen because the status quo leaves room to manipulate them by the powerful clubs.
Jeff Winter on his last game: "I played a little bit of extra time, waiting until the play was at the Kop end, before sounding the final shrill blast. The fans behind the goal burst into spontaneous applause. It was longer and louder than normal, even for a home win. Did they know it was my final visit? Was it applause for me? They are such knowledgeable football people it would not surprise me."
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Mike Dean's goal celebrations have even reached the media here.
http://sol.pt/noticia/420375/Mike-Dean-voltou-a-festejar-um-golo-do-Tottenham-#close
I posted a youtube clip on the post match thread showing this together with a couple of other examples of how he reacts when Spurs score or,conversely, lose possession!
I saw that - pretty amazing when you see the various examples put together, never seen anything like it.
He's not celebrating the goal. He is clearly signalling an advantage and then when that results in a goal he is pleased with his own decision. Storm in a teacup.
Agreed. It's obvious he was signalling the advantage and I thought so at the time. Can't believe fans are complaining about it. Embarrassing.
He was celebrating the fact that he played the advantage. I don't think it's something he should be doing though, it just looked wrong.
That tosspot Graham Poll was on Talksport, unbelievably, on Monday afternoon talking about celebrating to himself when he'd given a good advantage.
It's a window into the conceit of these twats generally, the whole body needs shaking up. Unfortunately this will not happen because the status quo leaves room to manipulate them by the powerful clubs.
Jeff Winter on his last game: "I played a little bit of extra time, waiting until the play was at the Kop end, before sounding the final shrill blast. The fans behind the goal burst into spontaneous applause. It was longer and louder than normal, even for a home win. Did they know it was my final visit? Was it applause for me? They are such knowledgeable football people it would not surprise me."
Winter celebrated giving an advantage at a Liverpool game some years ago, he is a grade A self regarding prick.
I've just sent a particularly well worded e-mail. I'm going to run through reception, high-fiving startled guests.
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"He's waving on advantage" Advantage for what?