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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: LTA on October 07, 2015, 05:52:44 PM
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Bragging about his 63 grand a week wage on twitter. Being discussed on TalkShite now.
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(http://i2.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article6591300.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/NZogbia-1.jpg)
(http://i3.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article6591332.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/NZogbia2.jpg)
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Worth every penny
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So he wasn't bragging about his wage?
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Not sure if it's me or not, but that Twitter conversation doesn't make any sense.
I should say though that I tried Twitter once and couldn't follow what the hell to do or look at!
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Not sure if it's me or not, but that Twitter conversation doesn't make any sense.
I should say though that I tried Twitter once and couldn't follow what the hell to do or look at!
Me too. I joined it, and all I've gained is loads of e-mails suggesting people I should follow.
I haven't worked out how to do a single tweet.
EDIT: looking at that though, it appears he's on more than £63k a week.
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Why haven't we just cancelled his contract? He's a waste of skin.
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He's no worse than some of the shite Sherwood plays ;)
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I don't get it either. Our FB Page posts get added automatically to my Twitter feed and I struggle to understand what is going on at times.
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Why haven't we just cancelled his contract? He's a waste of skin.
He's not. He's a human being and a football player. He's just not good enough for Villa.
That doesn't consign him to the ranks of 'waste of skin'.
Now. If you'd said, Delph, about a month or so ago.... ;)
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There is very clever segway somewhere in there Lou about snakes being able to shed their skin but Delph is consigned to hisstory.
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On 29 July 2011, N'Zogbia passed a medical and signed a five-year deal with the club where he will wear the number 10 shirt. so he will not be able to earn 67 Grand a week after that :) Can't we send him on a loan to struggling small club in France.
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There is very clever segway somewhere in there Lou about snakes being able to shed their skin but Delph is consigned to hisstory.
Thank you Brian
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Why haven't we just cancelled his contract? He's a waste of skin.
He's not. He's a human being and a football player. He's just not good enough for Villa.
That doesn't consign him to the ranks of 'waste of skin'.
Now. If you'd said, Delph, about a month or so ago.... ;)
Apologies if you took it literally, maybe I should rephrase that as a waste of a shirt. I dislike him, no desire, terrible purchase. We might as well tear up his contract and pay him off because only if we find another moronic combination, like a South African Lerner and Mcleish pairing, will we flog him.
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Last year of his contract I would have thought this would have been the ideal time to play him. Not sure what he's done to be consigned to the dustbin when we're short of something in the team.
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Not sure what he's done to be consigned to the dustbin
Apart from being shit and useless for 4 seasons I can't think of a reason either.
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Last year of his contract I would have thought this would have been the ideal time to play him. Not sure what he's done to be consigned to the dustbin when we're short of something in the team.
that's about what I think, as well.
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Why haven't we just cancelled his contract? He's a waste of skin.
He's not. He's a human being and a football player. He's just not good enough for Villa.
That doesn't consign him to the ranks of 'waste of skin'.
Now. If you'd said, Delph, about a month or so ago.... ;)
Apologies if you took it literally, maybe I should rephrase that as a waste of a shirt. I dislike him, no desire, terrible purchase. We might as well tear up his contract and pay him off because only if we find another moronic combination, like a South African Lerner and Mcleish pairing, will we flog him.
Yes I did. He's not. I don't dislike him but feel that he may do better elsewhere if he can't turn it on or be recognised for doing so, for The Villa.
With Tim, other players like Kozak are also up for reexamination and I am questioning his assessment of their abilities.
It's all very well choosing a team and subs for Saturday but I think some talent may being ignored.
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Charlie is just about the last person on planet earth I want to see turning out for us at the moment.
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Interested to see who you would drop out of the squad for him? We're having trouble fitting in Ayew, Traore, Gil and Grealish and not leaving ourselves open and incredibly weak in midfield so I have no idea where that complete wet blanket would fit in.
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There is very clever segway somewhere in there Lou about snakes being able to shed their skin but Delph is consigned to hisstory.
Segways are not clever! Segues, however...
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What is wrong with South Africans ?
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Interested to see who you would drop out of the squad for him? We're having trouble fitting in Ayew, Traore, Gil and Grealish and not leaving ourselves open and incredibly weak in midfield so I have no idea where that complete wet blanket would fit in.
Well, you know?
Neither would I.
No idea, not in Tim's team(s).
That's Tim's job!
And Kozak.
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There is very clever segway somewhere in there Lou about snakes being able to shed their skin but Delph is consigned to hisstory.
Segways are not clever! Segues, however...
Segways have wheels and lights and can turn in any direction and are very clever. So are segueways.
Which also have wheels and lights and can turn...
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I think we're better off consigning him and his performances of the last 4 years to the dust bin. Give the new blood a chance and let those that have already failed us numerous times go by the wayside. This bloke has trousered nearly £20m by the time his contract has gone up, we owe him nothing.
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One thing is certain. N'Zogbia is a massive prick.
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Didn't the guy who invented segways die after reversing over a cliff on a Segway?
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I think we're better off consigning him and his performances of the last 4 years to the dust bin. Give the new blood a chance and let those that have already failed us numerous times go by the wayside. This bloke has trousered nearly £20m by the time his contract has gone up, we owe him nothing.
I think he still owes us something, though.
I can't imagine how a talented Premier League player of his experience doesn't even get on the bench. Absolutely seriously, why not? Either he's completely rubbish at BH or?
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What is wrong with South Africans ?
Well I've never met a nice one
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There's a bit of me that wishes we had coaching staff with the desire and ability (and enough of them) to get the most of the players we have. In Kozak and Nzogbia there's 15m in transfer fees and at least that again in wages, yet we buy Gestede and Ayew on similar deals.
The net gain being?...
That is not me saying that Nzogbia is good enough, just that we are currently, and will continue to do so, wasting money hand over fist each season without seemingly coaching the players we already have. To paraphrase Honningstein (sp?), in Germany they see it as a failure of their system(s) if they have to spend big each year.
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What is wrong with South Africans ?
Well I've never met a nice one
not bloody surprising mun
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Didn't the guy who invented segways die after reversing over a cliff on a Segway?
Nope. He bought Segway then reversed off a cliff.
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All in we will have paid him about £20m across the contract plus signing on fee etc.
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I find it hard to get worked up about him any more. He has played some bit part role in keeping us up the past few seasons, completely underperformed the rest of the time. Signing a player who didnt work out on massive wages is hardly unique to Villa at least we are doing them in batches of one or two these days, not by the dozen like we used to. We have bigger problems these days.
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All in we will have paid him about £20m across the contract plus signing on fee etc.
more like 25 million
fuck me you couldnt make it up
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Pound-for-pound one of our worst buys EVER.
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right up there with habib beye
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All in we will have paid him about £20m across the contract plus signing on fee etc.
more like 25 million
fuck me you couldnt make it up
Charlie appears to be peddling the line that its Sky's money.
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The real problem is our deeply engrained one of not acting soon enough, to whit, dithering. We should never have let him run his contract down. He was a McLeish vanity purchase and he should have gone when McLeish went.
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Every single time we have a string of poor results someone brings up a player who isn't getting into the squad and decides they could be our saviour. Despite that same player being derided by the vast majority for a lengthy period of time. See also Bent D. Hutton A.
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If you ever needed somebody to be the personification of 'what's wrong with the modern game,' Charlie would be it.
I don't blame him, he got given the contract, but fuck me. What a huge amount of money for such little return.
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Don't blame him for getting paid as much as he can.
He's not worth that much money.
He needs to move on, for everyone's sake.
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I was please when we signed him but he's been a fucking arrogant waste of space since the moment he arrived
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right up there with habib beye
What got me is we extended the contract
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the worst form of vegetation since the Triffids.
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This man is one of the best example of everthing that is wrong with modern day football and the amazing thing is it's not his fault or his agent's.
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right up there with habib beye
And Stephen Ireland
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He's actually been involved on and off for four years and I've never seen him play well for us. That has to be the longest period of shitness in a Villa team ever. No, this one is not worth bothering with even in our current predicament.
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right up there with habib beye
What got me is we extended the contract
Neither Beye or Zog had their contracts extended.
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Not sure what you guys think, but when he played for Newcastle and Wigan, I really rated him and 4 years ago thought he was a decent signing.
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Not sure what you guys think, but when he played for Newcastle and Wigan, I really rated him and 4 years ago thought he was a decent signing.
I honestly didn't. A one season wonder, well, didn't he have a good last 10 games or something for Wigan that season? Either way, I've never liked the player.
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Not sure what you guys think, but when he played for Newcastle and Wigan, I really rated him and 4 years ago thought he was a decent signing.
I honestly didn't. A one season wonder, well, didn't he have a good last 10 games or something for Wigan that season? Either way, I've never liked the player.
whenever I have seen Nzwankia play he has been fucking shit, no pace and no neck muscles as he seemed to be incapable of lifting his head up to look at other players/where he was jogging to
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He scored a good free kick against West Ham in 12/13 when we couldn't buy a win and set up Delph's goal in the QF last season. Other than that I'm not too sure what's he done for us. Even so I don't think he should have to apologise for what he's paid, the club gave him the contract.
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He has nothing to be sorry for , it's not his fault he's shit at football and sneaked in to the profession.
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Until seeing this thread, I don't think that Zog had crossed my mind since the start of the season.
I can't remember him even coming up in conversation during games
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I can see Charles on I'm a Celebrity...Get Me Out Of Here (as part of the Jungle), or in the BB House. As an ornament.
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He's very talented, but not motivated at all. He's one of these players content to pick up his £60k a week wages and do nothing. Just a lazy basted. Similar with Stephen Ireland - why do these players become crap when they get a contract at Villa?
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He's very talented, but not motivated at all. He's one of these players content to pick up his £60k a week wages and do nothing. Just a lazy basted. Similar with Stephen Ireland - why do these players become crap when they get a contract at Villa?
I think the main problem is that he doesn't want to play the position which he is best suited in. I think on the right of a front 3 really suits him as it allows him to cut in on his left, but I think he views himself as a "number 10" and simply doesn't put the effort when played elsewhere.
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I really don't understand why anyone is slagging N'Zogbia for what he makes. He negotiated it himself or through his agent and we were the mugs who paid and are paying it. No different to Given as an example.
The only one to criticize is the club for agreeing to it. That he hasn't lived up it isn't an issue either because who's to say he should have been making that kind of money? The criticism of his play should be just that and not tied to his salary, because he'd be just as useless at twice the money, half the money or any number you can associate with his productivity.
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I really don't understand why anyone is slagging N'Zogbia for what he makes. He negotiated it himself or through his agent and we were the mugs who paid and are paying it. No different to Given as an example.
The only one to criticize is the club for agreeing to it. That he hasn't lived up it isn't an issue either because who's to say he should have been making that kind of money? The criticism of his play should be just that and not tied to his salary, because he'd be just as useless at twice the money, half the money or any number you can associate with his productivity.
What about criticism of his attitude and application?
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I really don't understand why anyone is slagging N'Zogbia for what he makes. He negotiated it himself or through his agent and we were the mugs who paid and are paying it. No different to Given as an example.
The only one to criticize is the club for agreeing to it. That he hasn't lived up it isn't an issue either because who's to say he should have been making that kind of money? The criticism of his play should be just that and not tied to his salary, because he'd be just as useless at twice the money, half the money or any number you can associate with his productivity.
What about criticism of his attitude and application?
Sure, but it has nothing to do with what we are paying him. That seems to come up over and over again like it should dictate who he is and how well he plays. Just because someone gets paid a certain amount doesn't change him and the club, if they wanted a player with a specific skill set or attitude should have done better research prior to signing him.
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I really don't understand why anyone is slagging N'Zogbia for what he makes. He negotiated it himself or through his agent and we were the mugs who paid and are paying it. No different to Given as an example.
The only one to criticize is the club for agreeing to it. That he hasn't lived up it isn't an issue either because who's to say he should have been making that kind of money? The criticism of his play should be just that and not tied to his salary, because he'd be just as useless at twice the money, half the money or any number you can associate with his productivity.
Sure, but it has nothing to do with what we are paying him. That seems to come up over and over again like it should dictate who he is and how well he plays. Just because someone gets paid a certain amount doesn't change him and the club, if they wanted a player with a specific skill set or attitude should have done better research prior to signing him.
What about criticism of his attitude and application?
Not sure about that TV. Surely you can't be advocating that a player who has been paid millions by a club and who has not performed or even put any effort in can walk away totally blameless at the end of his contract with a shrug of the shoulders and the attitude that it's not his faul and the club should have done more research before buying him?
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Not saying that Tom. But what we pay him shouldn't dictate how he is as a player or any way of affecting attitude. I'm saying as a club we should understand those two things better before paying him. He's to blame for his performances because overall they have been poor but I'm not tying it to what he makes which keeps getting brought up by fans. I just the two things are separate topics.
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Whatever he makes, he's an egotistical prick, an absolute waste of space as a footballer and the sooner he clears off the better. Sorry if that doesn't match Toronto's erudite analysis, but the twat just winds me up.
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If he is not going to play why don't we send him out on loan and try to offset some of his wages?
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If he is not going to play why don't we send him out on loan and try to offset some of his wages?
Because only the stupidest people in the world would pay him any sort of money to play for them and unfortunately that's us.
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Whatever he makes, he's an egotistical prick, an absolute waste of space as a footballer and the sooner he clears off the better. Sorry if that doesn't match Toronto's erudite analysis, but the twat just winds me up.
He also sums us up sadly.
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It will be interesting to see where he goes once his contract is up. Middle East? Or just retire?
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We do seem to employ more than our fair share of this type of player: looks good for unfashionable club (Bolton, Wigan et al), signs for large amount of money on big wages, turns to shit, banished to reserves, leaves after full contract period / free transfer. I'm thinking N'zogbia, Curcic, Balaban, Collymore (though signed from a 'bigger' club) - must be more.
Sure other clubs sign duds too, our just seem devastatingly awful.
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Can't see a lot wrong with his 'tweet', though. As above, we should be desensitised to this type of cuntery by now.
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If he is not going to play why don't we send him out on loan and try to offset some of his wages?
I'd presume we have tried and maybe he didn't want to move for whatever reason.
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If he is not going to play why don't we send him out on loan and try to offset some of his wages?
I'd presume we have tried and maybe he didn't want to move for whatever reason.
If that is the case then it is just another example of a footballer who doesn't want to play football, which totally baffles me but explains why I get so pissed off with the modern day footballers!
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Must be a lovely life.
Massive wages, don't even have to play - just turn up, train and then do whatever you like. No pressure. Just the knowledge you're set for life and you don't have to give the employer a second thought. I'm very envious, I have to admit.
An employer that was idiotic enough to agree to those sorts of wages in the first place.
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everyone forgets that most of the site were jumping round the room when we signed him
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everyone forgets that most of the site were jumping round the room when we signed him
True enough
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but in those days there was a semblance of a footballer inside the garish attire; now we're just left with the pot plant bit.
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Walking through the jewellery quarter at lunch time, spotted this hideously tasteless Porsche Cayenne with matt paint job
Number plate BO55 CNZ
got to be him, surely?
(http://i.imgur.com/ocq2iMC.jpg)
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Must be, well spotted.
You would get a badge for that in the scouts
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Walking through the jewellery quarter at lunch time, spotted this hideously tasteless Porsche Cayenne with matt paint job
Number plate BO55 CNZ
got to be him, surely?
(http://i.imgur.com/ocq2iMC.jpg)
or his car
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Walking through the jewellery quarter at lunch time, spotted this hideously tasteless Porsche Cayenne with matt paint job
Number plate BO55 CNZ
got to be him, surely?
(http://i.imgur.com/ocq2iMC.jpg)
or his car
Well, yes.
Although it could be some kind of (rich) deranged superfan driven to show his love for N'Zogbia.
Like Jed in Alan Partridge, or that woman with the Farage tattoo.
Or Risso with Sam Allardyce.
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Back in the day a car like that would have had its tyres let down by now!
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When he curls in the winner tomorrow you'll all be eating humble pie. Erm....
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at least his motor doesn't look like Aladdin's laundry basket.
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Back in the day a car like that would have had its tyres let down by now!
and the cassette radio pulled out
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Back in the day a car like that would have had its tyres let down by now!
and the cassette radio pulled out
Just passed it. It's a write-off on bricks now. Took a video of Charlie coming to collect it. He's put some timber on:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3eqyUeyDOiY
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I am 43
(http://i.imgur.com/qgN4s75.jpg)
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I am 43
(http://i.imgur.com/qgN4s75.jpg)
*applause*
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I am 43
(http://i.imgur.com/qgN4s75.jpg)
Excellent.
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Bravo.
Cook Pass Babtridge.
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He's got a car that depreciates at his own rate.
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He's back in contention tomorrow. I want to say it would shock me to see him back in the side but given events in recent weeks nothing will surprise me. And poor old Kozak continues to be ignored. Utterly bizarre.
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Wait until you see he's playing left back.
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I am 43
(http://i.imgur.com/qgN4s75.jpg)
pissed myself at that- very good.
On a tangent, chico's sister got him a model of villa park a few years back and made a little paper banner which said 'cock piss ell-is' and put it in our spot in the Holte end.
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If N'zogbia is the answer then I have no idea what the question is, saying that he may as well earn his £65K a week or whatever the bastard earns
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everyone forgets that most of the site were jumping round the room when we signed him
True enough
This the virtual room?
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everyone forgets that most of the site were jumping round the room when we signed him
True enough
This the virtual room?
Jumping in anger, that is.
Never saw the value of signing NZog. His signing was a vanity-purchase on the part of TSM.
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I've been mystified as to his exclusion given that it makes no sense other than something happening behind the scenes. He has certainly not been worse than anyone else last season and contributed well at times during our run-in. Also, seeing that he has one-year left of his contract I would have thought that a supposedly great man-manager would say simply 'go and show me'. There is the possibility that N'zogbia has already said that he will leave when his contract ends - no disappointment there - which in turn has left question marks over his usefulness when Sherwood picks his team. That said, given the lack of results, I can't see why he, and indeed Kozak, are nowhere near the matchday squad.
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The continued exclusion of Libor Kozak when he has endured so much to battle back from horrendous injury is as bad as anything Lambert inflicted on players he did not like. I wish N'Zogbia had shown a tiny fraction of that courage and commitment.
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As much as i've backed Sherwood lately, bringing N'Zogbia back and continuing to leave out Kozak is just baffling. Kozak has worked his arse off to get himself fit, whereas N'Zogbia has just sat on twitter arguing with fans.
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Whish is all well and good but we don't know how Kozak or N'Zogbia are doing in training., how they have been in and around the club, i.e. their attitude. decisions look baffling to fans because we don't know what is going on at the club because we don't see it.
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I honestly think a fully fit Kozak gives us a lot more than Gestede.
I could see Kozak giving Terry a hard time for 90 minutes whereas Rudy's shoulders would sagging after 20 minutes.
Conclusion: Kozak is not fully fit*
*see also: not a Timmy fave
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If N'zogbia is the answer then I have no idea what the question is, saying that he may as well earn his £65K a week or whatever the bastard earns
Beat me to it, definitely wouldn't have CNZ in the trenches with me, bizarre management by Sherwood. God knows what team he will put out today but expect the unexpected.
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Whish is all well and good but we don't know how Kozak or N'Zogbia are doing in training., how they have been in and around the club, i.e. their attitude. decisions look baffling to fans because we don't know what is going on at the club because we don't see it.
But to leave someone out of the squad altogether (I don't think he even featured pre-season did he?) then bringing him back saying he could make a difference does look a bit desperate.
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Is CNZ starting today then I take it
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Whish is all well and good but we don't know how Kozak or N'Zogbia are doing in training., how they have been in and around the club, i.e. their attitude. decisions look baffling to fans because we don't know what is going on at the club because we don't see it.
But to leave someone out of the squad altogether (I don't think he even featured pre-season did he?) then bringing him back saying he could make a difference does look a bit desperate.
it does. maybe it is and that's where we're at. Or maybe player and manager sat down, had a chat, and one or both decided that the air was cleared and they should get on with it.
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I always thought Sunderland would be stupid enough to sign him . Not that stupid.
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Whish is all well and good but we don't know how Kozak or N'Zogbia are doing in training., how they have been in and around the club, i.e. their attitude. decisions look baffling to fans because we don't know what is going on at the club because we don't see it.
But to leave someone out of the squad altogether (I don't think he even featured pre-season did he?) then bringing him back saying he could make a difference does look a bit desperate.
it does. maybe it is and that's where we're at. Or maybe player and manager sat down, had a chat, and one or both decided that the air was cleared and they should get on with it.
Maybe they did, but let's face it, he's hardly pulled up any trees since he's been here. I'm not sure why he thinks we're thinks we're going to see a different player all of a sudden. I hope i'm wrong though.
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Kozak has failed to impress with the U21s, according to reports. Is that not reason enough to keep him excluded? Sounds more likely than some personal vendetta.
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Heeeeess baaaacckkk 8)
Brief but very encouraging performance
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Agreed. Contract up at the end of the season so we may get a tune or two out of him before then. He could be a massive asset to us this season.
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I thought he did ok tbh when he came on. Not a massive fan but beggars cant be choosers and if Garde can get him playing that is good enough for me
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It already looks like Garde is the best manager he's played under since joining us so maybe we'll see the player we thought we were getting.
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That would be quite something, finally seeing him come good over 4 years after signing. To be fair, I still think it's unlikely, but talent wise he's one of the best in the squad.
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His contract's up at the end of the season, so he's got every reason to try and make a success of the rest of his time here, and hope someone else is willing to keep him on the Premier League gravy train for a few years longer. My guess is he'll probably end up at Everton, and rejoin Martinez, but on less than half the wage he currently 'earns' now, but enough to keep him in garish suits for a good while longer.
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I read something today that suggested we were about to pay him off, just before Tiny Tim left
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It already looks like Garde is the best manager he's played under since joining us so maybe we'll see the player we thought we were getting.
The only problem with that is we'll probably give a new four year contract and he'll be crap again.
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I dont care if Garde wants to give him a go, the bloke is a total waste of space and money.
One of the worst buys ever.
Get rid ASAP
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If he helps us stay up he will go with my blessing. No new contract though.
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If he has something to offer and in his spell on Sunday he actually looked useful, then he ought to be considered for inclusion.
I see no point or sense in terminating his contract now.
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Agreed. Contract up at the end of the season so we may get a tune or two out of him before then. He could be a massive asset to us this season.
I seem to remember Heskey's performance and effort levels increase markedly during the final few months of his contract with us.
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Agreed. Contract up at the end of the season so we may get a tune or two out of him before then. He could be a massive asset to us this season.
I seem to remember Heskey's performance and effort levels increase markedly during the final few months of his contract with us.
He started about 5 games in the last 6 months with us. And the only goal he scored that season was second game of the season.
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Agreed. Contract up at the end of the season so we may get a tune or two out of him before then. He could be a massive asset to us this season.
I seem to remember Heskey's performance and effort levels increase markedly during the final few months of his contract with us.
He started about 5 games in the last 6 months with us. And the only goal he scored that season was second game of the season.
I don't recall Heskey's performance ever improving while he was with us.
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Agreed. Contract up at the end of the season so we may get a tune or two out of him before then. He could be a massive asset to us this season.
I seem to remember Heskey's performance and effort levels increase markedly during the final few months of his contract with us.
He started about 5 games in the last 6 months with us. And the only goal he scored that season was second game of the season.
I don't recall Heskey's performance ever improving while he was with us.
He had 2-3 reasonable months under Houllier. He seemed to score something like 6 in 11 at one point, before we got Bent in (and then he failed to score in the remainder of the season).
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every new manager that comes in resurrects the great N'zog thinking he can get something from the lad, and at first sometimes we see a decent cross or a run spurt that comes to nothing but just for a fleeting second we thing oh maybe just maybe,
then we get a few posters with the legendary ' I think there is a player in there' stuff
and then anywhere between 1-3 months depending on the manager reality sets in
and the plant pot returns
Garde will waste his time with N'zog for a bit, they all do, but he will ultimately fail because he's rubbish at football
right up in the top 10 of worst ever buys for Villa in the last 40 years, and there is a lot of competition
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every new manager that comes in resurrects the great N'zog thinking he can get something from the lad, and at first sometimes we see a decent cross or a run spurt that comes to nothing but just for a fleeting second we thing oh maybe just maybe,
then we get a few posters with the legendary ' I think there is a player in there' stuff
and then anywhere between 1-3 months depending on the manager reality sets in
and the plant pot returns
Garde will waste his time with N'zog for a bit, they all do, but he will ultimately fail because he's rubbish at football
right up in the top 10 of worst ever buys for Villa in the last 40 years, and there is a lot of competition
Not a few pal, just me. (*sighs*)
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every new manager that comes in resurrects the great N'zog thinking he can get something from the lad, and at first sometimes we see a decent cross or a run spurt that comes to nothing but just for a fleeting second we thing oh maybe just maybe,
then we get a few posters with the legendary ' I think there is a player in there' stuff
and then anywhere between 1-3 months depending on the manager reality sets in
and the plant pot returns
Garde will waste his time with N'zog for a bit, they all do, but he will ultimately fail because he's rubbish at football
right up in the top 10 of worst ever buys for Villa in the last 40 years, and there is a lot of competition
Not a few pal, just me. (*sighs*)
Ha! True. If ever I get a labrador I'm going to call it LeeB. ;)
Judging from the stuff posted by N'Zogbia on Twitter, the bloke is far more interested in the luxuries and lifestyle that comes from football than he is in the game. In my book, only Bosko Balaban was a worse buy but Worst Ever Value For Money Award is most certainly the Zog's. Nine million cost, £65k a week on a 5 (FIVE) year contract whose good games you can count on your thumbs and even that's being generous.
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Rudy, I see your Charles N'Zogbia and raise you Habib Beye.
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Agreed. Contract up at the end of the season so we may get a tune or two out of him before then. He could be a massive asset to us this season.
I seem to remember Heskey's performance and effort levels increase markedly during the final few months of his contract with us.
So did Lee Hendrie, every single time his contact was up for renewal.
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He had 2-3 reasonable months under Houllier. He seemed to score something like 6 in 11 at one point, before we got Bent in (and then he failed to score in the remainder of the season).
Guess how many goals he's scored in English football since the the last one of those six goals, the fucking useless great lump. 2.
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every new manager that comes in resurrects the great N'zog thinking he can get something from the lad, and at first sometimes we see a decent cross or a run spurt that comes to nothing but just for a fleeting second we thing oh maybe just maybe,
then we get a few posters with the legendary ' I think there is a player in there' stuff
and then anywhere between 1-3 months depending on the manager reality sets in
and the plant pot returns
Garde will waste his time with N'zog for a bit, they all do, but he will ultimately fail because he's rubbish at football
right up in the top 10 of worst ever buys for Villa in the last 40 years, and there is a lot of competition
I get the feeling Garde won't give him long if he doesn't deliver.
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Correct i don't think anyones place in the side is safe, Garde will play those that earn their spots.
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Rudy, I see your Charles N'Zogbia and raise you Habib Beye.
Villa Top Trumps? Go on then..
Beye N'Zogbia
Fee: £2.6m £9m
Contract Length: 3 years 5 (FIVE) years
Weekly Pay: £42k £65k
Age joining Villa: 31 25
Appearances: 14 63
Substitute App. 3 29
Goals: - 5
Resale Value: 0 0
Grim reading which ever way you look at it.
In defence of Beye, he had King Carlos and Luke Young in front of him. A very expensive squad member. He smiled.
In defence of N'Zogbia, he scored 5 goals. He wore strange clothes that kept the dressing room happy.
I still think I win, Brian.
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I see all your facts and numbers Mr Can't Fail and raise you Curtis Davies (Davis?).
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Zat Knight? Marlon F. Harewood?
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Zat Knight? Marlon F. Harewood?
Eh? How does 'sold at a profit' Zat Knight even come anywhere near this conversation?
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I did not realise he was sold at a profit. Thank you for pointing that out to me.
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I see all your facts and numbers Mr Can't Fail and raise you Curtis Davies (Davis?).
Ouch!
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I see all your facts and numbers Mr Can't Fail and raise you Curtis Davies (Davis?).
Nzog is a testament to TSM's vanity.
A waste of money and a total distraction.
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N'Zogbia's contribution to the club looks like Frederick Tinder's next to Stephen Ireland.
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N'Zogbia's contribution to the club looks like Frederick Tinder's next to Stephen Ireland.
Ah yes, the great Fred Tinder.
Just remind me - WHO?
*in before the edit•
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N'Zogbia's contribution to the club looks like Frederick Tinder's next to Stephen Ireland.
Swipe left for the grand old man of empty shagging.
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Correct i don't think anyones place in the side is safe, Garde will play those that earn their spots.
I'd like to think so but i thought the same of Sherwood.
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Correct i don't think anyones place in the side is safe, Garde will play those that earn their spots.
I'd like to think so but i thought the same of Sherwood.
Sherwood's demise was rapid even by Premier League standards.
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N'Zogbia's contribution to the club looks like Frederick Tinder's next to Stephen Ireland.
Ah yes, the great Fred Tinder.
Just remind me - WHO?
*in before the edit•
The Villa Chairman and committee member who also founded a social dating website.
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I don't mind N'Zogbia deciding he's a footballer after all and putting a bit of effort in. Just as long as we're not stupid enough to offer him a new contract on the strength of it.
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Correct i don't think anyones place in the side is safe, Garde will play those that earn their spots.
I'd like to think so but i thought the same of Sherwood.
Sherwood's demise was rapid even by Premier League standards.
Sherwood's demise was rapid because even by Premier League standards he didn't know his arse from his elbow once you'd got past "try and pass the ball forward, Benteke you hang around their penalty box, and all of you, run around a bit until you get knackered"
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I don't mind N'Zogbia deciding he's a footballer after all and putting a bit of effort in. Just as long as we're not stupid enough to offer him a new contract on the strength of it.
If he does well, I don't even mind him signing a new contract - if the wage and length of contract reflect his situation.
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I don't mind N'Zogbia deciding he's a footballer after all and putting a bit of effort in. Just as long as we're not stupid enough to offer him a new contract on the strength of it.
If he does well, I don't even mind him signing a new contract - if the wage and length of contract reflect his situation.
I think even that would be playing with fire - just get our half a dozen or so games worth of good performances, shake his hand as he gets on his flight to Al-Ahli, and move on.
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N'Zogbia's contribution to the club looks like Frederick Tinder's next to Stephen Ireland.
Ah yes, the great Fred Tinder.
Just remind me - WHO?
*in before the edit•
The Villa Chairman and committee member who also founded a social dating website.
Because, being a modest man, he didn't like to blow his own trombone.
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If he plays well we should offer him a new contract which only covers dressing up in one of his (I laugh hysterically as I type this) suits and coming on the pitch at half time to make us laugh. His sole remuneration would be the money thrown to him. It would at least make him look up.
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The best thing he did when he came on Sunday was to feign injury that nearly got us a goal however as it was N'Zogbia it was always going to be nearly and nothing more. PLEASE PLEASE do not even think about keeping him at the club a day longer than necessary.
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I don't mind N'Zogbia deciding he's a footballer after all and putting a bit of effort in. Just as long as we're not stupid enough to offer him a new contract on the strength of it.
If he does well, I don't even mind him signing a new contract - if the wage and length of contract reflect his situation.
I think even that would be playing with fire - just get our half a dozen or so games worth of good performances, shake his hand as he gets on his flight to Al-Ahli, and move on.
Is the right answer
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Rudy, I see your Charles N'Zogbia and raise you Habib Beye.
Collymore.
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Rudy, I see your Charles N'Zogbia and raise you Habib Beye.
Collymore.
Balaban
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Stas
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Stas
Poor Ivo. Didn't he get injured on his first day training? I read some where that he actually did play for us - for the Reserves in a friendly against Redditch.
Brian, do the names Emment Kapengwe and Freddie Mwila ring any bells?
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Stas
Poor Ivo. Didn't he get injured on his first day training? I read some where that he actually did play for us - for the Reserves in a friendly against Redditch.
Brian, do the names Emment Kapengwe and Freddie Mwila ring any bells?
Didn't Ivo appear in a friendly against Australia? I was at it, and you'd think that him appearing would've left an indelible memory!
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Stas
...do the names Emment Kapengwe and Freddie Mwila ring any bells?
Couple of Tommy Doc's signings from Africa.
Was one from Kaiser Cheifs?
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did he play lead guitar?
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did he play lead guitar?
Best ask Chrissy Jameson, I know he's a fan.
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Rudy, I see your Charles N'Zogbia and raise you Habib Beye.
Villa Top Trumps? Go on then..
Beye N'Zogbia
Fee: £2.6m £9m
Contract Length: 3 years 5 (FIVE) years
Weekly Pay: £42k £65k
Age joining Villa: 31 25
Appearances: 14 63
Substitute App. 3 29
Goals: - 5
Resale Value: 0 0
Grim reading which ever way you look at it.
In defence of Beye, he had King Carlos and Luke Young in front of him. A very expensive squad member. He smiled.
In defence of N'Zogbia, he scored 5 goals. He wore strange clothes that kept the dressing room happy.
I still think I win, Brian.
Christ, no wonder Randy lost interest. What a waste between those two. I think Beye is actually worse. Charlie had potential and i dont recall us moaning whne he signed, just turned out to be a lazy, very rich useles lump.
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Rude Boy all I know about Mwala and Kapengwe is they came in the same draft as Brucie and Neil Rioch at a time when if you had a pulse and a pair of boots you were on the team sheet. Least I think it was them, once you saw Brucie smack the pill everything else went out of your mind.
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Stas
Poor Ivo. Didn't he get injured on his first day training? I read some where that he actually did play for us - for the Reserves in a friendly against Redditch.
Brian, do the names Emment Kapengwe and Freddie Mwila ring any bells?
Witney.
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did he play lead guitar?
Best ask Chrissy Jameson, I know he's a fan.
I like the singer, always have. He's a great bloke.
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did he play lead guitar?
Best ask Chrissy Jameson, I know he's a fan.
I like the singer, always have. He's a great bloke.
Diamond geezer.
(http://static.tellymix.co.uk/ts/800/450/www.tellymix.co.uk/files/2015/03/ricky-b.jpg)
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I have heard from a reliable source that Charlie is on £60k a week plus a £15k appearance bonus. The appearance bonus applies whether he starts or comes on from the bench and is probably the reason for the "bomb squad" situation.
Whoever devised and signed those sort of contracts off is the real reason for our current malaise.
I also heard from the same source that Guzan is a bit of a cock in training and will have a right go at anyone who challenges or gets near to him during crossing drills.
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I also heard from the same source that Guzan is a bit of a cock in training and will have a right go at anyone who challenges or gets near to him during crossing drills.
If only he did that in matches
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I also heard from the same source that Guzan is a bit of a cock in training and will have a right go at anyone who challenges or gets near to him during crossing drills.
If only he did that in matches
the drill would probably go under him
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I have heard from a reliable source that Charlie is on £60k a week plus a £15k appearance bonus. The appearance bonus applies whether he starts or comes on from the bench and is probably the reason for the "bomb squad" situation.
Whoever devised and signed those sort of contracts off is the real reason for our current malaise.
I also heard from the same source that Guzan is a bit of a cock in training and will have a right go at anyone who challenges or gets near to him during crossing drills.
just sounds like every keeper ever.
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Who were we fighting off for N'Zogbia's signature that we would have had to shower him with a deal like that?
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If one player epitomises the club over the past four seasons it is him.
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Who were we fighting off for N'Zogbia's signature that we would have had to shower him with a deal like that?
Sunderland.
You might remember the fun times that summer, when a deliberately planted post on here made their RTG message board convinced they had hijacked the signing a couple of hours before he was announced as our player.
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Who were we fighting off for N'Zogbia's signature that we would have had to shower him with a deal like that?
Sunderland.
You might remember the fun times that summer, when a deliberately planted post on here made their RTG message board convinced they had hijacked the signing a couple of hours before he was announced as our player.
Surely completing the N'Zogbia deal makes us quits after stealing Darren Bent away from them.