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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: JJ-AV on October 05, 2015, 02:38:59 PM
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How long has it been now?
The last time I recall being confident of 'regulation wins' was under DOL.
I'm sure it's been recounted plenty of times on here, but does anyone have our WDL stats per year for the past 10 years?
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I hoped that Sherwood would turn things around with home form after the turnaround v Leicester in the cup.
There were a few wins...but he had several easyish games at the end of last season to improve this yet got one point from Stoke, Swansea, QPR and Burnley.
You are right though - even under MON we were better away. Was it 76/77 where we had an amazing home record? It was before my time but I remember being amazed that we could have such stats!
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I hoped that Sherwood would turn things around with home form after the turnaround v Leicester in the cup.
There were a few wins...but he had several easyish games at the end of last season to improve this yet got one point from Stoke, Swansea, QPR and Burnley.
You are right though - even under MON we were better away. Was it 76/77 where we had an amazing home record? It was before my time but I remember being amazed that we could have such stats!
We lost one home game that season, to non-league opposition. It's been said before, but Fortress Villa Park has never existed.
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Last time we finished in the top six in terms of home form was 1997. We haven't finished in the top sixteen since 2011.
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I love my mileage versus wins comparisons, so I had a look the other day.
Since the 2010/11 season we’ve won 27 out of 99 at home. We actually won eight home games that year.
You can factor O’Neill into it too, as we only won 8 home games in the league the year before, which is the reason why we failed to qualify for the Champions League.
Part of the reason under O’Neill was that we were too one dimensional in that we had to get it wide quick and in behind to square them up or hit them on the break. All but four or five sides and Bolton would come and park the bus, so we struggled to break them down.
Under the subsequent managers it’s been a real absence of quality in the midfield to either cover the back four or supply the front men. We bizarrely have some quality players in Grealish, Gil, Traore, Gana, Veretout and Sancherz to choose from now, but we lack cohesion and organisation.
Its always been a very easy place to come and play. Its a wonderful ground and its that grandeur that allows lesser teams to raise their game.
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I hoped that Sherwood would turn things around with home form after the turnaround v Leicester in the cup.
There were a few wins...but he had several easyish games at the end of last season to improve this yet got one point from Stoke, Swansea, QPR and Burnley.
You are right though - even under MON we were better away. Was it 76/77 where we had an amazing home record? It was before my time but I remember being amazed that we could have such stats!
Suppose this belongs in "Memories" but yes - what a season 1976-77 was - without thinking too hard, I remember we stuck 5 past Liverpool, Arsenal, Ipswich (all decent sides in the day) and Wrexham in the League Cup, stuck 4 past West Ham and the Albion and 3 past both Manchester clubs and QPR to mention just a few - I think we beat Man City 3-0 in an early round of our way to winning the League Cup.
We had an outstanding home record that season, and at one point were in contention for everything - having said that for a team that only 3 years earlier had finished below half way in the Second Division, we were well happy with finishing 4th, reaching the FA Cup 1/4 Final and of course winning the League Cup. What a shame that team didn't quite reach the heights the following season.
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I love my mileage versus wins comparisons, so I had a look the other day.
Since the 2010/11 season we’ve won 27 out of 99 at home. We actually won eight home games that year.
You can factor O’Neill into it too, as we only won 8 home games in the league the year before, which is the reason why we failed to qualify for the Champions League.
Part of the reason under O’Neill was that we were too one dimensional in that we had to get it wide quick and in behind to square them up or hit them on the break. All but four or five sides and Bolton would come and park the bus, so we struggled to break them down.
Under the subsequent managers it’s been a real absence of quality in the midfield to either cover the back four or supply the front men. We bizarrely have some quality players in Grealish, Gil, Traore, Gana, Veretout and Sancherz to choose from now, but we lack cohesion and organisation.
Its always been a very easy place to come and play. Its a wonderful ground and its that grandeur that allows lesser teams to raise their game.
Dreadful reading .
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I hoped that Sherwood would turn things around with home form after the turnaround v Leicester in the cup.
There were a few wins...but he had several easyish games at the end of last season to improve this yet got one point from Stoke, Swansea, QPR and Burnley.
I think we scored 6 against Ipswich at home? and beat Derby 4-0. The only crazy stat is that we lost home and away to SHA!!
You are right though - even under MON we were better away. Was it 76/77 where we had an amazing home record? It was before my time but I remember being amazed that we could have such stats!
Suppose this belongs in "Memories" but yes - what a season 1976-77 was - without thinking too hard, I remember we stuck 5 past Liverpool, Arsenal, Ipswich (all decent sides in the day) and Wrexham in the League Cup, stuck 4 past West Ham and the Albion and 3 past both Manchester clubs and QPR to mention just a few - I think we beat Man City 3-0 in an early round of our way to winning the League Cup.
We had an outstanding home record that season, and at one point were in contention for everything - having said that for a team that only 3 years earlier had finished below half way in the Second Division, we were well happy with finishing 4th, reaching the FA Cup 1/4 Final and of course winning the League Cup. What a shame that team didn't quite reach the heights the following season.
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What grips my shit is the sly insinuation that losing at home is the fans fault as we have too much expectation. Man the fuck up players and Sherwood and go for the jugular. I'd rather lose by being swashbuckling than lose by playing the way we did against Albion or Stoke. I appreciate that we lack some organization but let's at least play our more creative players at home at the very least eh?
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I love my mileage versus wins comparisons, so I had a look the other day.
Since the 2010/11 season we’ve won 27 out of 99 at home. We actually won eight home games that year.
You can factor O’Neill into it too, as we only won 8 home games in the league the year before, which is the reason why we failed to qualify for the Champions League.
Part of the reason under O’Neill was that we were too one dimensional in that we had to get it wide quick and in behind to square them up or hit them on the break. All but four or five sides and Bolton would come and park the bus, so we struggled to break them down.
Under the subsequent managers it’s been a real absence of quality in the midfield to either cover the back four or supply the front men. We bizarrely have some quality players in Grealish, Gil, Traore, Gana, Veretout and Sancherz to choose from now, but we lack cohesion and organisation.
Its always been a very easy place to come and play. Its a wonderful ground and its that grandeur that allows lesser teams to raise their game.
Dreadful reading .
Sorry, that should have read 09/10 season under O'Neill. Its been 99 games since then, which for me is 17,028 miles at a rate of 631 miles per win.
I love mil miles v wins v cost comparisons.
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I think I read recently that we'd taken 71 points out of the last 225 on offer at home.
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Were too nice and accommadating, erect a big fuck off fence at the Holte End, employ some weird Eastern Europeans to climb it during the match with mega phones shouting out random instructions/chants too which the Holte will respond too, get rid of the 'Shaw prepared to venture down the left....' banner on the North stand and get a 'Welcome to Hell' one instead.
Those lions on the screen before kick off? Fuck those off and get real ones.... Bella and Hercules? they're gone too, replace them with the Texas chain saw massacre bloke and Freddy Kruegar.
The away fans area should be caged off with some of our more excentric fans climbing all over it during the game, flares are a must!
If all that fails then just employ Fat Sam.
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I reckon only Sunderland can rival us for such a poor record this decade. Interestingly while they've received regular pummelings and mass walk-outs from the home support, we've rarely been heavily beaten at VP. It's as if opponents respect us to the extent that it's a great ground and that any win at all there is a really good result.
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The home stats under Tony Barton were absolutely fantastic. Oh for a third of that
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How long has it been now?
The last time I recall being confident of 'regulation wins' was under DOL.
I'm sure it's been recounted plenty of times on here, but does anyone have our WDL stats per year for the past 10 years?
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05/06 W6 D6 L7
06/07 W7 D8 L4
07/08 W10 D3 L6
08/09 W7 D9 L3
09/10 W8 D8 L3
10/11 W8 D7 L4
11/12 W4 D7 L8
12/13 W5 D5 L9
13/14 W6 D3 L10
14/15 W5 D6 L8
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I think I read recently that we'd taken 71 points out of the last 225 on offer at home.
Correct. 71 points from 75 available matches.
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05/06 W6 D6 L7
06/07 W7 D8 L4
07/08 W10 D3 L6
08/09 W7 D9 L3
09/10 W8 D8 L3
10/11 W8 D7 L4
11/12 W4 D7 L8
12/13 W5 D5 L9
13/14 W6 D3 L10
14/15 W5 D6 L8
it aint rocket science looking at that!
were just getting worse and worse and worse and ....
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Position Season Play Win Draw Lost GF GA Win Draw Lost GF GA GD Points
4th 1995-96 38 11 5 3 32 15 7 4 8 20 20 +17 63
5th 1996-97 38 11 5 3 27 13 6 5 8 20 21 +13 61
7th 1997-98 38 9 3 7 26 24 8 3 8 23 24 +1 57
6th 1998-99 38 10 3 6 33 28 5 7 7 18 18 +5 55
6th 1999-00 38 8 8 3 23 12 7 5 7 23 23 +11 58
8th 2000-01 38 8 8 3 27 20 5 7 7 19 23 +3 54
8th 2001-02 38 8 7 4 22 17 4 7 8 24 30 -1 50
16th 2002-03 38 11 2 6 25 14 1 7 11 17 33 -5 45
6th 2003-04 38 9 6 4 24 19 6 5 8 24 25 +4 56
10th 2004-05 38 8 6 5 26 17 4 5 10 19 35 -7 47
16th 2005-06 38 6 6 7 20 20 4 6 9 22 35 -13 42
11th 2006-07 38 7 8 4 20 14 4 9 6 23 27 +2 50
6th 2007-08 38 10 3 6 34 22 6 9 4 37 29 +20 60
6th 2008-09 38 7 9 3 27 21 10 2 7 27 27 +6 62
6th 2009-10 38 8 8 3 29 16 9 5 5 23 23 +13 64
9th 2010-11 38 8 7 4 26 19 4 5 10 22 40 -11 48
16th 2011-12 38 4 7 8 20 25 3 10 6 17 28 -16 38
15th 2012-13 38 5 5 9 23 28 5 6 8 24 41 -22 41
15th 2013-14 38 6 3 10 22 29 4 5 10 17 32 -22 38
17th 2014-15 38 5 6 8 18 25 5 2 12 13 32 -26 38
18th 2015-16 8 0 1 3 2 5 1 0 3 6 8 -5 4
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That five winning home record season in 20 years and last one is 2007-08 season. Not good :(
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I like (I say "like", but that's really not the right word) to base it on price per win. The last four seasons have worked out at about £120.
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I always think that 10 home wins is a decent home season. Working backwards, this is our home wins each season in the PL, we've managed 10 so rarely it's beyond a joke.
5
6
5
4
8
8
7
10
7
6
8
9
11
8
8
8
10
9
11
11
6
8
13
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I thought we've always drawn way too many at home because we either haven't had the manager or substitutes to go for it and make a difference in tight games. Too many 6 or 7/10 players and not many with the magic to unlock parked buses.
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It's just too nice a place for away teams to come and perform , coupled with the fact that we are generally quite shit.
But we have shown like the WBA games last year that we are capable of creating it a volatile place to come.
Villa park comes alive at night or after 530pm in my opinion.
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Oh for the days when we were good enough draw at home.
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We mocked McLeish when he punched the air after drawing at home to Stoke.
Little did we know we'd be looking back on it as a Golden Age.
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I love my mileage versus wins comparisons, so I had a look the other day.
Since the 2010/11 season we’ve won 27 out of 99 at home. We actually won eight home games that year.
You can factor O’Neill into it too, as we only won 8 home games in the league the year before, which is the reason why we failed to qualify for the Champions League.
Part of the reason under O’Neill was that we were too one dimensional in that we had to get it wide quick and in behind to square them up or hit them on the break. All but four or five sides and Bolton would come and park the bus, so we struggled to break them down.
Under the subsequent managers it’s been a real absence of quality in the midfield to either cover the back four or supply the front men. We bizarrely have some quality players in Grealish, Gil, Traore, Gana, Veretout and Sancherz to choose from now, but we lack cohesion and organisation.
Its always been a very easy place to come and play. Its a wonderful ground and its that grandeur that allows lesser teams to raise their game.
Dreadful reading .
Sorry, that should have read 09/10 season under O'Neill. Its been 99 games since then, which for me is 17,028 miles at a rate of 631 miles per win.
I love mil miles v wins v cost comparisons.
I enjoy reading your stats - what are the costs then?
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We mocked McLeish when he punched the air after drawing at home to Stoke.
Little did we know we'd be looking back on it as a Golden Age.
What a decadent time , with the likes of Stephen Warnock and Ciaran Clark gracing the midfield and Emile Heskey alone up front.
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Didn't we win 10 on the bounce under SGT or is the old memory playing tricks? Perhaps it was 3 but it feels like 10 in today's money.
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Didn't we win 10 on the bounce under SGT or is the old memory playing tricks? Perhaps it was 3 but it feels like 10 in today's money.
Yes an odd season. Won 10/19 at home but unusually for us only won once away at Boro. Still finished 16th.
Under MON we had quality and most teams were happy and set up to leave VP with a point or nick the game 1-0 as we lacked play makers.
Now we just lack quality and general winning mentality all over the pitch so most teams are coming to win and see it as two points dropped if they even draw unless you're shite like Sunderland. And even they have only lost once at VP since 2009!
Says it all when a mid table team like Stoke who don't win that many away games in a league season have now won three on the spin at VP and have only lost once here since promotion.
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Even odder seeing as we were very average under GT when he first took over but amazing away.
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There surely can't be many teams in all 4 leagues that are as shit as we are, and have been, over the past few years at home?
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Were too nice and accommadating, erect a big fuck off fence at the Holte End, employ some weird Eastern Europeans to climb it during the match with mega phones shouting out random instructions/chants too which the Holte will respond too, get rid of the 'Shaw prepared to venture down the left....' banner on the North stand and get a 'Welcome to Hell' one instead.
Those lions on the screen before kick off? Fuck those off and get real ones.... Bella and Hercules? they're gone too, replace them with the Texas chain saw massacre bloke and Freddy Kruegar.
The away fans area should be caged off with some of our more excentric fans climbing all over it during the game, flares are a must!
If all that fails then just employ Fat Sam.
One of the funniest posts I have read, thankyou Luke for making me chuckle.
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Away teams and fans enjoy the comfort of Villa Park. We need to build a new away section. Something like this.
(http://i.imgur.com/RTpXEhg.jpg)
(http://randomranger.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/polish_football_cage_1.jpg)
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I hoped that Sherwood would turn things around with home form after the turnaround v Leicester in the cup.
There were a few wins...but he had several easyish games at the end of last season to improve this yet got one point from Stoke, Swansea, QPR and Burnley.
You are right though - even under MON we were better away. Was it 76/77 where we had an amazing home record? It was before my time but I remember being amazed that we could have such stats!
We lost one home game that season, to non-league opposition. It's been said before, but Fortress Villa Park has never existed.
That was an awful defeat after going a goal ahead, but you are sadly premature in the non-league comment. Unless you know something we don't ....
We had a good home record under Saunders, and other than that, nothing great in most of my time
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Haven’t got the inclination to do all of our 116 league tables but here is the recent past league tables of home records only.
If we relied on our home form we would have been relegated in 94/95.
(http://i.imgur.com/I785taX.jpg)
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I can distinctly remember us having a home record of 17-2-2 one season in the early 80s. Haven't checked, and anyone who does may well find my memory sadly deficient!
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I can distinctly remember us having a home record of 17-2-2 one season in the early 80s. Haven't checked, and anyone who does may well find my memory sadly deficient!
1982/83. Our away record was 4-3-14 which is why we were 'only' 6th. Sunderland (opening day) and Liverpool were the only teams to beat us at VP.
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Cheers PWS - so contrary to earlier comments there HAS been a fortress Villa Park - but it turned out to be a temporary fortress, made of ice, say.
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Cheers PWS - so contrary to earlier comments there HAS been a fortress Villa Park - but it turned out to be a temporary fortress, made of ice, say.
Shame we couldn't persuade Superman to live at VP for more than a year.
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Isn't it time to take matters into our own hands. A 3/4 full Villa Park being served up constant dross is often tame, at times bordering on mutinous, but (off the top of my head) games like Bradford in Div 2 & Liverpool on the last day of the old Holte, were games where the team were driven over the line by the sheer noise of the crowd - despite how shit or nervous the team was. Recently Albion games last season and possibly more so the semi final at Wembley show what a difference having a partisan backing can have. Leicester & Palace are no great shakes and cannot match VP at full noise but they continually squeeze out results at home due to the will of their support. It's kind of get the team home despite the tool in charge and the lack of cohesion in front of our eyes, cos sadly that is unlikely to change quickly and we run the risk of becoming part of an ever decreasing circle of failure unless we take control together
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Been shit at home since Little.
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Isn't it time to take matters into our own hands. A 3/4 full Villa Park being served up constant dross is often tame, at times bordering on mutinous, but (off the top of my head) games like Bradford in Div 2 & Liverpool on the last day of the old Holte, were games where the team were driven over the line by the sheer noise of the crowd - despite how shit or nervous the team was. Recently Albion games last season and possibly more so the semi final at Wembley show what a difference having a partisan backing can have. Leicester & Palace are no great shakes and cannot match VP at full noise but they continually squeeze out results at home due to the will of their support. It's kind of get the team home despite the tool in charge and the lack of cohesion in front of our eyes, cos sadly that is unlikely to change quickly and we run the risk of becoming part of an ever decreasing circle of failure unless we take control together
I could have sworn the last game of the standing Holte was a 3-3 draw with norwich - I have clear memories of being on the Holte for that game and thinking "that was good, but it's over now". But I've checked and it turns out (probably to no surprise to many of the regulars on here) that the Norwich game was a full five years earlier, and my sentiment was right, but for the wrong reason. Bejesus.
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3-3 contained a/some mountfield own goals didn't it? Late 80s or very early 90's
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Says it all when a mid table team like Stoke who don't win that many away games in a league season have now won three on the spin at VP and have only lost once here since promotion.
And as somebody posted elsewhere, Saturday was Stoke's first away win since February.
The last time that they came to Villa Park.
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Isn't it time to take matters into our own hands. A 3/4 full Villa Park being served up constant dross is often tame, at times bordering on mutinous, but (off the top of my head) games like Bradford in Div 2 & Liverpool on the last day of the old Holte, were games where the team were driven over the line by the sheer noise of the crowd - despite how shit or nervous the team was. Recently Albion games last season and possibly more so the semi final at Wembley show what a difference having a partisan backing can have. Leicester & Palace are no great shakes and cannot match VP at full noise but they continually squeeze out results at home due to the will of their support. It's kind of get the team home despite the tool in charge and the lack of cohesion in front of our eyes, cos sadly that is unlikely to change quickly and we run the risk of becoming part of an ever decreasing circle of failure unless we take control together
With the exception of the higher profile games, I've always found the lack of vocal support at Villa Park bewildering and frustrating at times. I've always stood at the back of the Holte and always give my vocal support but I've never understood why the place feels like a morgue at times. The back of the Holte does sing but this very rarely cascades its way down the Holte or around the ground in week-to-week league games. Sure we've had to endure watching some dire shite, but the crowd is very much reactive rather than proactive. This is more of an observation than a criticism, and its been like it for as long as I can remember.
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I think there are very few grounds where this is not the case since standing was abolished.
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It doesn't help that most of the singers sit/stand at the very back of the second tier of the stand either.
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I think all grounds are the same. There's nothing different about Villa Park.
Less than a point a game over the last 75 matches is fucking disgusting. I'm surprised people still turn up. What a fucking rip off.
Don't start navel gazing an blaming yourself for that fucking shit, it's not the fans' fault.
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I hoped that Sherwood would turn things around with home form after the turnaround v Leicester in the cup.
There were a few wins...but he had several easyish games at the end of last season to improve this yet got one point from Stoke, Swansea, QPR and Burnley.
You are right though - even under MON we were better away. Was it 76/77 where we had an amazing home record? It was before my time but I remember being amazed that we could have such stats!
We lost one home game that season, to non-league opposition. It's been said before, but Fortress Villa Park has never existed.
I think it existed for that one, fleeting season. Only one game lost all season, in all competitions - that was to our inferior neighbours in September, we were unbeaten at home after that. League record was won 17, drew 3, lost 1. (Away record of 5, 4, 12 meant we finished fourth, we didn't travel well). In the cups it was won six, drew one. I was lucky enough to be at them all, and see Villa score 75 goals in a season. I doubt we've come near that since.
Edit - and as indicated in posts I've just read, 17 in 82/83, plus their were 16 home wins when we won the league. 14 in 83/84 isn't too shoddy either. So that's four seasons in the past 40 years where Villa Park has been a 'fortress', or anywhere near it. Shocking.
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you travel up from london on the train and you see parents taking their kids to/from villa park.
on the way back, you'd think these kids had been dragged to a dull museum or some elderly relative with shitty biscuits, rather than a 'treat'!
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The title needs to omit 'at home' then we'll be closer to the truth.
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Despite our shiteness at home we have maintained decent crowds over the last few years.
Am I right in saying that our average attendances have gone up year on year for the last 3 seasons or so?
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Isn't it time to take matters into our own hands. A 3/4 full Villa Park being served up constant dross is often tame, at times bordering on mutinous, but (off the top of my head) games like Bradford in Div 2 & Liverpool on the last day of the old Holte, were games where the team were driven over the line by the sheer noise of the crowd - despite how shit or nervous the team was. Recently Albion games last season and possibly more so the semi final at Wembley show what a difference having a partisan backing can have. Leicester & Palace are no great shakes and cannot match VP at full noise but they continually squeeze out results at home due to the will of their support. It's kind of get the team home despite the tool in charge and the lack of cohesion in front of our eyes, cos sadly that is unlikely to change quickly and we run the risk of becoming part of an ever decreasing circle of failure unless we take control together
With the exception of the higher profile games, I've always found the lack of vocal support at Villa Park bewildering and frustrating at times. I've always stood at the back of the Holte and always give my vocal support but I've never understood why the place feels like a morgue at times. The back of the Holte does sing but this very rarely cascades its way down the Holte or around the ground in week-to-week league games. Sure we've had to endure watching some dire shite, but the crowd is very much reactive rather than proactive. This is more of an observation than a criticism, and its been like it for as long as I can remember.
I moved around the ground last season using Viagogo but have located back to my old seat at the back of K3 as I was desperate for some atmosphere and a sing-song - had a couple of decent games in the Lower Holte but mostly bored and cold anywhere other than the back of the Holte.
Having opposition and neutral fans in the Upper Trinity doesn't help
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It's another debate altogether but you could argue that we may be 'happier' winning games in the Championship rather than losing every week in the PL.
I guess there is every chance we might find out in due course.
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Despite our shiteness at home we have maintained decent crowds over the last few years.
Am I right in saying that our average attendances have gone up year on year for the last 3 seasons or so?
Dropped nearly 2K last season. We're at our usual average of around 34-36K.
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I love my mileage versus wins comparisons, so I had a look the other day.
Since the 2010/11 season we’ve won 27 out of 99 at home. We actually won eight home games that year.
You can factor O’Neill into it too, as we only won 8 home games in the league the year before, which is the reason why we failed to qualify for the Champions League.
Part of the reason under O’Neill was that we were too one dimensional in that we had to get it wide quick and in behind to square them up or hit them on the break. All but four or five sides and Bolton would come and park the bus, so we struggled to break them down.
Under the subsequent managers it’s been a real absence of quality in the midfield to either cover the back four or supply the front men. We bizarrely have some quality players in Grealish, Gil, Traore, Gana, Veretout and Sancherz to choose from now, but we lack cohesion and organisation.
Its always been a very easy place to come and play. Its a wonderful ground and its that grandeur that allows lesser teams to raise their game.
Dreadful reading .
Sorry, that should have read 09/10 season under O'Neill. Its been 99 games since then, which for me is 17,028 miles at a rate of 631 miles per win.
I love mil miles v wins v cost comparisons.
I enjoy reading your stats - what are the costs then?
My car is quite economical, so I reckon I only do around 15p a mile, so it would work out at £94.65 in fuel per win, which if you added the season ticket to, would be something like £195.00 per win.
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It's another debate altogether but you could argue that we may be 'happier' winning games in the Championship rather than losing every week in the PL.
I guess there is every chance we might find out in due course.
We were shite at home the last time we went down, 14 away wins took us back up.
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Big problem is our tempo particularly in the first halves. It's gone back to Lambert days when you look at Man. United, WBA and Stoke games, we start games at snail pace, happy not to concede early (even though we do concede the first goal usually) and so don't bother crossing the halfway line and don't impose ourselves on the opposition.
When you look back to the good home results we got in the second half of last season (WBA, Everton, West Ham) we came flying out of the blocks, scored early in all games and were leading at half time, QPR was the same even if we didn't win that one.
It's not rocket science, start positively and at a good tempo and that will suprise some away teams and we'll more likely win the game leading at half time. But we've gone back to zombie football.
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Despite our shiteness at home we have maintained decent crowds over the last few years.
Am I right in saying that our average attendances have gone up year on year for the last 3 seasons or so?
Dropped nearly 2K last season. We're at our usual average of around 34-36K.
I think that is a remarkable figure considering the garbage the home support has had to endure over the last four or five seasons.
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I love my mileage versus wins comparisons, so I had a look the other day.
Since the 2010/11 season we’ve won 27 out of 99 at home. We actually won eight home games that year.
You can factor O’Neill into it too, as we only won 8 home games in the league the year before, which is the reason why we failed to qualify for the Champions League.
Part of the reason under O’Neill was that we were too one dimensional in that we had to get it wide quick and in behind to square them up or hit them on the break. All but four or five sides and Bolton would come and park the bus, so we struggled to break them down.
Under the subsequent managers it’s been a real absence of quality in the midfield to either cover the back four or supply the front men. We bizarrely have some quality players in Grealish, Gil, Traore, Gana, Veretout and Sancherz to choose from now, but we lack cohesion and organisation.
Its always been a very easy place to come and play. Its a wonderful ground and its that grandeur that allows lesser teams to raise their game.
Dreadful reading .
Sorry, that should have read 09/10 season under O'Neill. Its been 99 games since then, which for me is 17,028 miles at a rate of 631 miles per win.
I love mil miles v wins v cost comparisons.
I enjoy reading your stats - what are the costs then?
My car is quite economical, so I reckon I only do around 15p a mile, so it would work out at £94.65 in fuel per win, which if you added the season ticket to, would be something like £195.00 per win.
I hope you haven't missed any of the wins