Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: thegreatdane on October 05, 2015, 12:16:36 PM
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Apologies if something similar already posted but I missed the Sunderland game as I was in Amsterdam.
So yes I am yet to see a home goal :(
So we play 3-5-2 / 5-3-2 at home have most of the possession and do absolutely nothing with it but pass backwards. It was like watching a team full of Boateng's and McCanns.
Arguably our best crosser even though hes rubbish is Bacuna and a role like RWB that would of suited him and hes on the bench.
Crespo? I felt sorry for the lad chucked in like that
We had an effort from Richards who was magnificent again, that went wide and Ruddy had a shot outside the box that wouldnt of troubled Gabor Kiraly.
Ayew? Veretout? Ruddy? Gana? 7/8m a player with no premiership experience. The year it takes to settle into the Prem we will be in the Championship
Can someone please tell me what is going on?
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Richards is magnificent in a marauding, last-ditch, brute strength, bit of skill and pace kinda way but in terms of positioning and organising his defence, which is his responsibility as captain and senior centre back, he is really being found-out at the moment.
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he has been head and shoulders ahead of anyone else?
can someone thats been watching villa longer than 15 years tell me that this is it.
Were gone
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he has been head and shoulders ahead of anyone else?
can someone thats been watching villa longer than 15 years tell me that this is it.
Were gone
I've been supporting them for 51 years I can say that we're not gone but we will be if we keep Sherwood too long.
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I have been supporting them a long, long time and we are only gone if we dither like we did with Lambert. We have a run of tough fixtures coming up. Sherwood will achieve nothing from those games. A new man in place with less hard games to play can get us moving. Has Fox got the balls to read the writing on the wall? Not yet but the clock is ticking.
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Richards is magnificent in a marauding, last-ditch, brute strength, bit of skill and pace kinda way but in terms of positioning and organising his defence, which is his responsibility as captain and senior centre back, he is really being found-out at the moment.
I'm agreeing with that. His job to me is not to be marauding up the pitch trying to score goals it's to be organising our defence which at the moment is bloody terrible. That's HIS JOB and at the moment he's simply not doing it well enough, ditto all the other defenders
If he's eager to go wandering away from his post i suggest a Richards - Okore - Clark - Amavi back four ASAP
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I've been watching 25 years, this last few years is the worst i've put up with, All of them not just Sherbert, started when Mon fucked off
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Richards looks like the best right back we will never see play.
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Richards would be fine if we had someone like Jagielka next to him, a smart old bastard who knows where to be and how to cover for his partners. The old aggressive & covering combo in defence is fine. Unfortunately we don't have anyone like that, apart from Clark (who's not quite good enough to make up for all of Richards' errors). Lescott is an aging aggression defender, who never had the best positional sense anyway. It's a bad situation back there.
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Richards is magnificent in a marauding, last-ditch, brute strength, bit of skill and pace kinda way but in terms of positioning and organising his defence, which is his responsibility as captain and senior centre back, he is really being found-out at the moment.
I'm agreeing with that. His job to me is not to be marauding up the pitch trying to score goals it's to be organising our defence which at the moment is bloody terrible. That's HIS JOB and at the moment he's simply not doing it well enough, ditto all the other defenders
If he's eager to go wandering away from his post i suggest a Richards - Okore - Clark - Amavi back four ASAP
Yeah, I like him and he's got a big part to play here in the coming years but he does seem to dive into things a lot and hasn't got the calm, confident, commanding centre back qualities that we used to see 15 years ago or more. I think RB might be better for him long term, but I don't honestly see Clark and Okore being any better at CB, if as good. Lescott has made a bad start also, I think we need some seriously better coaching in that area, we've been shit for years.
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I thought Clark & Okore showed flashes of a decent developing CB partnership last season. Sometimes it's not about the best individuals, it's about who plays better as a pair obviously.
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http://www.whufc.com/News/Articles/2015/October/5-October/Cole-This-is-going-to-be-a-great-year?
Our players are seeking out their old clubs to find positivity now, brilliant
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When McLeish took over i expected it to be as rubbish as it was. Since then i've mistakenly had the assumption that it was temporary and we would soon gravitate back to where we should be. I was wrong.
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I have been supporting them a long, long time and we are only gone if we dither like we did with Lambert. We have a run of tough fixtures coming up. Sherwood will achieve nothing from those games. A new man in place with less hard games to play can get us moving. Has Fox got the balls to read the writing on the wall? Not yet but the clock is ticking.
This. Anything we can scrape from the next 5 games will be a bonus. If we leave it until we are seriously adrift before taking action we may as well accept our our fate.
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When McLeish took over i expected it to be as rubbish as it was. Since then i've mistakenly had the assumption that it was temporary and we would soon gravitate back to where we should be. I was wrong.
Where should we be?
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higher than Watford
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Well we certainly shouldn't be in the bottom 3! I guess I have always considered Villa to be a 'top 8' team so I guess that is where we should be.
Where we are headed is the stuff of nightmares - a horror shown overseen by Mr.Lerner.
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I think I saw in one of the Sunday papers ''money league table'' recently that our wage bill is 9th, I think Sunderland are 8th and Newcastle 7th. And they are the positions us three "perennial sleeping giants" should really be targeting instead of ten places below as we currently are while clubs with far less resources kick us in the nuts, race on past and leave us for dust.
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The difference between the club in Lerner's first 5 years and now is astounding. Ambitions of the champions league, free coach travel, free scarves, the General chatting to the fans on here. All that's gone now, and Lerner and the General distance themselves as far from the club as possible.
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I wonder what the General is now doing as he is in new job for a while, maybe he need to come back and sort them out. Perhaps a recommend drill sergeant from US Marines to improve fitness ;)
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The last I head from General K was when he intimated that Lerner and himself are spies and have to answer their countries call and save the world or something.
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In response to the OP.
We have reached the end game, end of days after a 5 year programme of asset stripping, austerity, neglect, lack of leadership from the owner and a series of catastrophic senior managerial appointments both in the dug out and boardroom.
This will be a long brutal season and we will all have to find our own ways of coping. Some will stay away, some will attend in silence , there will be a winter of protests, banners and knife sharpening.
January will probably come too late for the new manager and a couple of over priced panic signings.
Ladies and Gentlemen , hold onto your seats.
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Where we are headed is the stuff of nightmares - a horror shown overseen by Mr.Lerner.
Or rather, in recent times, overlooked by Mr Lerner.
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ive watched(courtesy of sky) at least 10 games this weekend and everyone of them
ive enjoyed immensely!
and what have we got to look forward to in the weeks ahead?
I really cant take turning up week after week much longer!
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ive watched(courtesy of sky) at least 10 games this weekend and everyone of them
ive enjoyed immensely!
and what have we got to look forward to in the weeks ahead?
I really cant take turning up week after week much longer!
Bollix.
The Autumn mists swirling around Vila Park are worth the entrance price.
I would recommend a serious spliff and a walk through Aston Park as a pre-game preparation for the horrors to come. Mists and mellow fruitfulness innit.
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Or, several spliffs and a drive down the M1/M6 in a metro and a tyre blow out at 90mph in the fast lane near Corley to focus the mind, as happened to myself and another poster on here once on our way to VP. Good times.
I know it sounds like bullshit, but the metro really did do 90!
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Think it was towards the end of Gregory's tenure, so death might actually have been preferable to watching the match.
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100% agree with this.
Take a look at @Matt_Law_DT's Tweet: https://twitter.com/Matt_Law_DT/status/652961332350832640?s=09
Take a look at @Matt_Law_DT's Tweet: https://twitter.com/Matt_Law_DT/status/652961723884941312?s=09
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Where we are headed is the stuff of nightmares - a horror shown overseen by Mr.Lerner.
Or rather, in recent times, overlooked by Mr Lerner.
He gave Lambert far too long; he let him ruin the team, and played Nero until he realised we were going down. There were probably few other options than a gamble on TS who just kept us up.
People will say it's too 'short termist' to keep changing manager, but we need a change now or we are doomed; we may be anyway.
There was ever any planning from the board and we are now having to reap what they have sown. We have managed to fall so quickly well behind such notable and wealthy clubs as Swansea, Southampton, Palace, Leicester and Stoke, and the blame can be laid squarely at their door.