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Heroes & Villains => Villa Memories => Topic started by: LeeB on August 07, 2015, 10:29:56 PM
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Just stumbled across this on Youtube, don't remember seeing it elsewhere, but this seemingly unremarkable defeat was anything but, in my head at least.
I was there that night, and it remains the go to "unjustified defeat" in my memory bank.
It was early in Venglos brief reign, we played some cracking football and battered them, I often think had this been won, early doors, things may have worked out better for Venglos. We showed some promise.
Anyway, it's worth a watch.
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We had a few of those "didn't deserve to lose" games that season. Spurs away was another.
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Can't believe this is nearly 25 years ago. We played really well and had it not been for 'Dibblegate' we'd have won.
One thing I recall was walking through Moss Side before the game and noticing that the old back to back Coronation Street style house all had 2 things, a satellite dish and a yellow alarm box. Funny what you remember.
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We had a few of those "didn't deserve to lose" games that season. Spurs away was another.
Which I think was the next away game. Platt was especially good that day. Lost to a late Paul Allen goal iirc.
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Remember it well, plant lane, evening kick off, bloody Unjust
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The last minute defeat to Liverpool was cruel too, I'm sure that either the game before or after this one.
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The last minute defeat to Liverpool was cruel too, I'm sure that either the game before or after this one.
Before. I think it was our first away game.
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I was there too. Real shame about Paul Lake...that City team of 88/89 were really good to watch. And this result was a sickener
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This game was my only visit to Maine Road.
The highlights have refreshed some foggy memories.
Bench seats in the Platt Lane stand.
The water sprinklers still spraying the pitch 10 minutes before kick-off after a near monsoon halt an hour beforehand.
For some reason there were people selling the Rangers fanzine Follow Follow outside our end. Eye opening reading as I recall.
Feeling like I was on the set of Coronation Street outside the ground.
Agree with some of the other comments. We seemed to spend the first 3 months of the season bemoaning bad luck as you could see what Venglos was trying to do without ever looking completely convincing, then it all started to fall apart.
He couldn't adapt to English football enough and it seemed that the players couldn't adapt to him enough, so they never met somewhere in the middle.
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All the players from that time now say they laughed at what Dr Jo wanted them to do then, and all clubs do it now. I always got the impresison as well that he didn't bother telling them not to do things like drink during the week because he never expected them to, so they carried on.
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I went to this one. I travelled up on the train which was a mistake as there were no return trains after about 9pm. I slept the night in the railway station and got the train home the next morning. We played really well that night. Even though we lost i left with a lot of hope for the season. I certainly didn't think it would turn out as badly as it did.
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I went to this one. I travelled up on the train which was a mistake as there were no return trains after about 9pm. I slept the night in the railway station and got the train home the next morning. We played really well that night. Even though we lost i left with a lot of hope for the season. I certainly didn't think it would turn out as badly as it did.
In hindsight, whilst the appointment was quite brave, and managed and supported properly could have seen take the lead in modernising English football (like Wenger did instead a few years later), it had the massive caveat of being carried out by Doug.
Which meant he'd saw it as great opportunity to rest back the power ceded to Taylor, run things on the cheap again.
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I remember driving a few others there in my old man's Sierra estate. We hung around for a bit after the game and had a quick word with McGrath and Venglos. We were hard done by that night. I had been to Maine Road a few weeks before to see Bowie on the Sound And Vision tour.
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I remember driving a few others there in my old man's Sierra estate. We hung around for a bit after the game and had a quick word with McGrath and Venglos. We were hard done by that night. I had been to Maine Road a few weeks before to see Bowie on the Sound And Vision tour.
Went the year before too, the Sunday game that was on local TV, and my brother had the quarter-bumpers nicked off his Ford Capri Laser.
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I remember driving a few others there in my old man's Sierra estate. We hung around for a bit after the game and had a quick word with McGrath and Venglos. We were hard done by that night. I had been to Maine Road a few weeks before to see Bowie on the Sound And Vision tour.
Went the year before too, the Sunday game that was on local TV, and my brother had the quarter-bumpers nicked off his Ford Capri Laser.
I think that Sunday game was the one where myself and two mates went and visited another mate who was living in student accomodation in Moss Side. We went into a rough pub deep in City territory and people were staring at me. I realised I had a sort of anorak on which was claret and grey with a small Villa lion on it. It was so 'subtle' I had completely forgotten it was a Villa anorak but the eagle eyed locals were very observant.
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Venglos's exit from villa must be one of the least talked about among supporters. I'm sure he wasn't actually sacked so i'm assuming he resigned but didn't say why.
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Venglos's exit from villa must be one of the least talked about among supporters. I'm sure he wasn't actually sacked so i'm assuming he resigned but didn't say why.
He was officially shunted into a non-job - Head of European Operations or something like that, but I doubt he ever did any work and it was never mentioned again. I suppose his departure was relatively quiet because everyone knew he was off and too many were secretly (or not so secretly) glad that one of those foreigners had been sent packing and English football had shown it had nothing to learn.
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I remember this one because I went on the Travellers club being a 15 year old. I was sat next to Wolfie who never sat still on the way there. The game was a joke, how we lost I don't know, we battered them but they scored each time they went forward it seemed.
They were a jinx team then and have been since.
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I was home on "leave" from Aus and went the match. How we lost I will never know. Typical Villa
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I was at this one too, couldnt find my mates mini for ages afterward. Cant recall too much about the game but did meet Paul Lake a few months after at Lilleshall where we had an in depth conversation about the incident.
'I was at the game where you did your leg Paul, how is it'
'Getting better thanks mate'
I dont think he ever played again so when I think of him I just think 'why did he lie to me?'
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I was at this one too, couldnt find my mates mini for ages afterward. Cant recall too much about the game but did meet Paul Lake a few months after at Lilleshall where we had an in depth conversation about the incident.
'I was at the game where you did your leg Paul, how is it'
'Getting better thanks mate'
I dont think he ever played again so when I think of him I just think 'why did he lie to me?'
Lake's book is well worth a read and is a sad indictment of the medical care of the day from footy clubs. Wouldnt happen today.
I doubt he was lieing to you since he thought he would be back initially within 6 weeks and then by the end of the season. Only played a handful of games thereafter. Was being compared to Gascoigne at the time
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Always remember Spurs at home that season, Platt scored a hat-trick. Luton at home also when Mark Pembridge scored probably the best goal I;ve seen at VP by an away side.
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Always remember Spurs at home that season, Platt scored a hat-trick. Luton at home also when Mark Pembridge scored probably the best goal I;ve seen at VP by an away side.
I remember that goal. Neil Ruddock of all people scored a screamer for Millwall at VP but it was over shadowed by Rambo's goal.
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Pembridge goal at 1.40
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Always remember Spurs at home that season, Platt scored a hat-trick. Luton at home also when Mark Pembridge scored probably the best goal I;ve seen at VP by an away side.
I remember that goal. Neil Ruddock of all people scored a screamer for Millwall at VP but it was over shadowed by Rambo's goal.
Yes Spurs at home, Platt got a hatrick to put us 3-0 up then, Villa being Villa let two goals in well into the second half leaving us ten minutes to hang on.