Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Reuben on August 07, 2015, 07:30:43 AM
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Was expecting this to be awful but it was actually quite interesting statistically....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/my-premier-league-life
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Agreed.
Average score in my lifetime.. 1-1 seems about right.
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Excellent stuff.
1-1 avg score; Tim's win record compares favourably to his predecessors; lifetime rating - 46%.
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Very good
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Lifetime rating of 47%, team we have beaten the most - Spurs, team we have lost to the most - Man Utd, there's a surprise. Oh and I share a birthday with Ryan Giggs which I knew already. 83% of matches in the top tier, 57% in the top ten which I guess explains why I still always think of us as a top six side and expect nothing less. My average result is 1-1 too and in the first match after I was born, we lost 2-0 away to Leicester. Interesting and an enjoyable read!
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My average was 1-1 as well. That stat sums it all up!
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Wow
That is really interesting
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Lost 3-1 to Derby County on the day I was born. A sign of things to come.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/my-premier-league-life
No surprise on the club lost to most times in my lifetime!
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1996 "Last time we won a trophy" and then next to it 2000 "Given our track record, we should have won another".
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After I was born, first match played, we beat Albion 2-0 on 19 Aug 1950 crowd 58k.
Interested to see we have had 10 Scottish managers in our history, which is a fair number considering the size of the country, compared with 17 English.
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After I was born, first match played, we beat Albion 2-0 on 19 Aug 1950 crowd 58k.
Interested to see we have had 10 Scottish managers in our history, which is a fair number considering the size of the country, compared with 17 English.
Including George Ramsay (who wasn't) and Scott Marshall, who's doubtful in the extreme.
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First match after I was born was Athletic Bilbao at home 1977. Team most beaten in my lifetime - Sunderland. Team most lost to - Man United obviously.
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Man United is the team most lost in any lifetime!
Gratifyingly the team Albion have lost most in my lifetime is us!
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Good find,
Total attendance in my lifetime 64,372,631
Lowest average attendance in my lifetime
1985-86 season 15,237
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Lowest average attendance in my lifetime
1985-86 season 15,237
And probably all of us will say the same given that it was the lowest since 1914-15 (when our forefathers had a bit of an excuse for not turning up) which was the only lower one since Villa Park opened*.
* I've just found that out, hence the brief outburst of anorakism.
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Suprised that Everton are the most beaten team in my lifetime (dec 1967)
85-86 had a Holte end ST and can remember the swathes of empty spaces in the ground.
McLeish our worst manager for wins.....
What a great site that is.
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Brilliant.
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Lowest average attendance in my lifetime
1985-86 season 15,237
Other factors were involved in my life then, not just the shockingly poor standard of football on display that season, but that was the year I gave up my season ticket in the front upper middle Trinity that I'd held since the season we dropped into the Third Div. The writing was clearly on the wall.
I have actually regretted that decision on occasion.
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My only criticism is that it is has to pretend the Premier League has existed forever.
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Another 1-1 average score. 53% lifetime rating. Spurs our most beaten side which is nice.
Born in 1977. (My dad has a proud record of Villa winning a trophy each year one oh his kids were born, 1975,1977, 1981)
Unfortunately my lifetimes golden era was before I was old enough to be aware of it. Although I do remember Dad going mental when we won the European cup.
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Ironically, 85/86 is the season when I went to more home games than any other, mainly because it was one of the few occasions since I left Brum aged 13 when I was back working and living in the area - Droitwich to be precise. You could wander around the Holte most games, there were so many empty spaces. I also remember walking out of the Man City home match at half time when we were, I think, 3-0 down (or was it Brighton?), something I do regularly of course having done it again (for the first time since, so 30 years) at Southampton last season. Was it that year we played Exeter in the Milk Cup in a very early round in the fog and there was about 8,000 in the ground? The Holte was almost empty. We beat them something like 11-1 on aggregate, Stainrod scoring quite a lot of the goals.
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I share a birthday with Titi Camara !!
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Ironically, 85/86 is the season when I went to more home games than any other, mainly because it was one of the few occasions since I left Brum aged 13 when I was back working and living in the area - Droitwich to be precise. You could wander around the Holte most games, there were so many empty spaces. I also remember walking out of the Man City home match at half time when we were, I think, 3-0 down (or was it Brighton?), something I do regularly of course having done it again (for the first time since, so 30 years) at Southampton last season. Was it that year we played Exeter in the Milk Cup in a very early round in the fog and there was about 8,000 in the ground? The Holte was almost empty. We beat them something like 11-1 on aggregate, Stainrod scoring quite a lot of the goals.
Ha ha. I did my share of wandering around The Holte in the '60's. It was nice to have a selection of crush barriers to lean on as well in those days.
My memory of the 85/86 season has largely been expunged. Not just because of the dire football, but my long term Villa supporting mate couldn't take any more and had given up the previous season. That, along with the perpetual problem of the five fat, sheepskin clad, sovereign ringed, arsehole gangsters that sat next to me and who occupied only four seats expecting me to sit on half a seat at best for the entire season. I plucked up the courage one day to ask the troglodyte sitting next to me if he wouldn't mind moving up a little so that I could actually take my seat. I can still remember his actual words: "You must be fucking joking." Not difficult to remember since they were thankfully the only words he ever spoke to me.
Stewarding was in it's infancy in those days.
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Spuds are the most beaten team in my lifetime. And long may that continue.
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I was welcomed into the world by a 1-0 defeat by the Bordesley Barcelona. My 18th coincided with the LC semi win over Arsenal, but I knew that.
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Spuds are the most beaten team in my lifetime. And long may that continue.
We must all be of a similar age! We did used to do them quite regularly home and away, and they were always something of a soft touch away from the Lane, a bit in the same way as West Ham are these days away from the Boleyn. Younger readers must be incredulous that they are the team we have beaten the most. If you were born in the Lambert era, I guess the website comes up with 'not applicable'?
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Suprised that Everton are the most beaten team in my lifetime (dec 1967)
Was for me as well (74). Not really a surprise though, we have played them the most and they are more beatable than other teams we have played consistently.........
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Gregory has a better win percentage than O'Neil but Little has a worse one?
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Spuds are the most beaten team in my lifetime. And long may that continue.
Me too. And I share a birthday with Stuart Pearce. I saw him at Stanstead earlier this year. He's taller than I thought.
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I share a birthday with Titi Camara !!
That's my favourite website!
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Ironically, 85/86 is the season when I went to more home games than any other, mainly because it was one of the few occasions since I left Brum aged 13 when I was back working and living in the area - Droitwich to be precise. You could wander around the Holte most games, there were so many empty spaces. I also remember walking out of the Man City home match at half time when we were, I think, 3-0 down (or was it Brighton?), something I do regularly of course having done it again (for the first time since, so 30 years) at Southampton last season. Was it that year we played Exeter in the Milk Cup in a very early round in the fog and there was about 8,000 in the ground? The Holte was almost empty. We beat them something like 11-1 on aggregate, Stainrod scoring quite a lot of the goals.
Ha ha. I did my share of wandering around The Holte in the '60's. It was nice to have a selection of crush barriers to lean on as well in those days.
My memory of the 85/86 season has largely been expunged. Not just because of the dire football, but my long term Villa supporting mate couldn't take any more and had given up the previous season. That, along with the perpetual problem of the five fat, sheepskin clad, sovereign ringed, arsehole gangsters that sat next to me and who occupied only four seats expecting me to sit on half a seat at best for the entire season. I plucked up the courage one day to ask the troglodyte sitting next to me if he wouldn't mind moving up a little so that I could actually take my seat. I can still remember his actual words: "You must be fucking joking." Not difficult to remember since they were thankfully the only words he ever spoke to me.
Stewarding was in it's infancy in those days.
Is that what brought you to your current ''location'', still leaning on the bent crush barrier ?
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Ironically, 85/86 is the season when I went to more home games than any other, mainly because it was one of the few occasions since I left Brum aged 13 when I was back working and living in the area - Droitwich to be precise. You could wander around the Holte most games, there were so many empty spaces. I also remember walking out of the Man City home match at half time when we were, I think, 3-0 down (or was it Brighton?), something I do regularly of course having done it again (for the first time since, so 30 years) at Southampton last season. Was it that year we played Exeter in the Milk Cup in a very early round in the fog and there was about 8,000 in the ground? The Holte was almost empty. We beat them something like 11-1 on aggregate, Stainrod scoring quite a lot of the goals.
Ha ha. I did my share of wandering around The Holte in the '60's. It was nice to have a selection of crush barriers to lean on as well in those days.
My memory of the 85/86 season has largely been expunged. Not just because of the dire football, but my long term Villa supporting mate couldn't take any more and had given up the previous season. That, along with the perpetual problem of the five fat, sheepskin clad, sovereign ringed, arsehole gangsters that sat next to me and who occupied only four seats expecting me to sit on half a seat at best for the entire season. I plucked up the courage one day to ask the troglodyte sitting next to me if he wouldn't mind moving up a little so that I could actually take my seat. I can still remember his actual words: "You must be fucking joking." Not difficult to remember since they were thankfully the only words he ever spoke to me.
Stewarding was in it's infancy in those days.
Is that what brought you to your current ''location'', still leaning on the bent crush barrier ?
Only in my nightmares.
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Spurs the side Villa have beaten most in my lifetime - I know we used to finish above them regularly in the 90's, but this still surprised me. I always saw them, Everton and us in similar standing really.
The club we've beaten most historically is Sunderland, another surprise for me. To my shame before they made a big noise with Peter Reid I didn't know much about them.
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Another 1-1 average score. 53% lifetime rating. Spurs our most beaten side which is nice.
Born in 1977. (My dad has a proud record of Villa winning a trophy each year one oh his kids were born, 1975,1977, 1981)
Unfortunately my lifetimes golden era was before I was old enough to be aware of it. Although I do remember Dad going mental when we won the European cup.
Lovely stat that. I like to think that I was conceived on the day we last won the FA Cup, but the fact I was premature puts the maths a few weeks out.
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I like to think I was a World Cup baby being born on 13/3/67, but that puts conception date a month before the World Cup final on 30/7/66...in fact right around my Mom's birthday...So I was a birthday treat instead!
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I share a birthday with Premier League legends Michael Bridges, Nicos Dabizas and Luis Boa Morte.
Everton are the team we've beaten the most, and unsurprisingly Man U have beaten us the most.
Average result: 1-1.
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Wish I hadn't have done it...I share a birthday with that fuckin lying snake.
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Very good and very nerdy. Right up my alley.
There seems to be an increasing tread nowadays to describe Ramsay & Smith as managers. In a way its difficult enough to compare the management of McMullan up to Eric Houghton and Mercer onwards (in terms of Board/Committee influence).
Plus, why no Jim Barron? 100% win as caretaker (1994 away at Spurs 4-3!).
So then, since I was born, Villa win only 39% of all matches. Very depressing. Thanks mostly the Spurs. Not so depressing.
I shouldn’t probably admit to this but I know how many games I’ve been to and how much I’ve spent on tickets. That’s 45% win ratio. Villa score a goal every 13 pound odd I spend to go to Villa Park. It works out to 41 and a half pounds for every win. Very poor value for money in my eyes.
Interestingly (and I use that term very loosely), Sunderland being the team that we’ve beaten the most. That’s 70 league, 7 FA Cup & 3 League Cup + (presumably) 1 League Cup shoot-out = 81
Games against Everton is 73 league, 4 FAC & 3 LC = 80. So its just the shoot-out that’s the difference!
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Superb.
I was flabbergasted to discover that Manchester United are the club most lost to, though. Flabbergasted.
For some reason, I decided to go off and look up anagrams for "Manchester United" and "Urine Detachments" was the clear winner.
Also, I was amazed to discover that Gerard Houllier is actually French. Who knew?
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Very good and very nerdy. Right up my alley.
There seems to be an increasing tread nowadays to describe Ramsay & Smith as managers.
That's the power of wikipedia. You start a myth on there and it becomes accepted fact. See also 'Why Villa play in claret and blue'. There's even a Villa Park tour guide who reels off a list of inaccuracies.
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Very good and very nerdy. Right up my alley.
There seems to be an increasing tread nowadays to describe Ramsay & Smith as managers. In a way its difficult enough to compare the management of McMullan up to Eric Houghton and Mercer onwards (in terms of Board/Committee influence).
Plus, why no Jim Barron? 100% win as caretaker (1994 away at Spurs 4-3!).
So then, since I was born, Villa win only 39% of all matches. Very depressing. Thanks mostly the Spurs. Not so depressing.
I shouldn’t probably admit to this but I know how many games I’ve been to and how much I’ve spent on tickets. That’s 45% win ratio. Villa score a goal every 13 pound odd I spend to go to Villa Park. It works out to 41 and a half pounds for every win. Very poor value for money in my eyes.
Interestingly (and I use that term very loosely), Sunderland being the team that we’ve beaten the most. That’s 70 league, 7 FA Cup & 3 League Cup + (presumably) 1 League Cup shoot-out = 81
Games against Everton is 73 league, 4 FAC & 3 LC = 80. So its just the shoot-out that’s the difference!
So if you were to watch us from the posh seats in the Trinity Road Stand, we'd win every game?
Let's have a whip round!
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First Villa result after I was born... a 1-0 defeat to Blues :(
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Whether you was born in the early 30s like my dad, late 50s like me or 16 months ago like my friend's daughter, our average score comes up as 1-1.
Which proves we won't miss Benteke I suppose.
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Excellent.
Won 7 - 1 on my birthday against Bradford. I would have taken 156 days to watch all games since I was born!!!
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No Villa manager ever won more than half their games (apart from caretakers)?
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Tim Sherwoods win ratio is 44% he won't be happy with that although GT, Saunders and Barton 46 so he's not far off greatness.