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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on May 24, 2015, 02:04:30 PM
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Steer, Baker, Vlaar, Bacuna, Cleverley, Agbonlahor, Westwood, Delph, Benteke, N’Zogbia, Grealish.
Bit of a strange line up in that not much change outside of giving Steer a game. Good to see Baker
Subs: Guzan, Sinclair, Weimann, Hutton, Sanchez, Robinson, Green.
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Who is playing left back????
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How's that defence gonna line up ?
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The much under-used 2-4-4 formation.
Presumably N'Zogbia at left-back?
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I'd have rested more players. That's a pointless risk for me - wouldn't play Benteke or Delph especially.
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Blimey that's a good question.
Edit: in reply to the LB question from SV
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3 5 2?
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I'm guessing N'Zog
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If Gil injured? If not, it looks like that's that for him
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Is that a 3-3-1-3 formation?
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The much under-used 2-4-4 formation.
Presumably N'Zogbia at left-back?
Maybe. I've always wondered how he'd look as a wing back. I know he played a bit there at Newcastle very early on in his career.
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If Gil injured? If not, it looks like that's that for him
The end for sure. If he can't get into this exhibition side he's not getting in.
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Playing Delph benteke Vlaar or grealish this week seems pointless
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If Zog is LB, it looks like Tim iis trying out an ultra attacking in case it's needed last week
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I'm really surprised about this team to be honest. I understand momentum and not disrupting things too much. The fact that we shit it last week may have affected the managers thinking too. But we could have started one of the kids today and played Sinclair for example and rested Jack.
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Oh well, let's cross everything for the next few hours and hope nobody gets injured, eh?
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No Given either.
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There's a £3.7m difference in prize money on the line for us today drpending on our minimum and maximum league finish
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I'm sure that has played a part in the team selection. Not to be sniffed at.
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Strange to have Benteke, Grealish and Delph playing. Talk about tempting fate. Hopefully this will be more like a friendly as there's nothing at stake.
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Strange side. Zogbia or Delph at Left back I'd imagine.
Be interesting to see how Steer copes. To be fair to Jed he'd done alright in the cups for us last season. And after some game time out on loan who knows, he might be ready to step up.
I know Zogbia has played left back before but his fitness is actually pretty terrible to be perfectly honest. He's got nothing left after 60 minutes in attacking midfield and he's now playing the position where the most stamina is probably required so I'd hazard a guess that he'll be dying on his arse before half-time. I'd be more inclined to try Delph there, but I would guess it's Zog.
Also given our fitness record with full-backs I can see why Tim doesn't want to play both Bacuna and Hutton today, in case we're left short next week.
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I'd be very disappointed if it was any situation other than the manager having complete freedom to pick the team he wants.
Esp if it came to the chance of an extra 3m vs the chance of winning the FA Cup next week.
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I'd be very disappointed if it was any situation other than the manager having complete freedom to pick the team he wants.
Esp if it came to the chance of an extra 3m vs the chance of winning the FA Cup next week.
My guess it all somehow plays a part for all mangers. But the more I think about it the more I believe last weeks display has caused this. That it gives those same players a real chance to get the defeat completely out of their system and play together in what might be close to the cup final side.
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To be honest i think Sherwood sees this as a chance to pick up and regain any momentum that we had but lost last week
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Odd team. I'd have thought give given a chance to recover confidence? Nzogbia at LB? got a nasty feeling Tim could even consider that for the arsenal game, to exploit the fact Ramsey tucks in
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Odd team. I'd have thought give given a chance to recover confidence? Nzogbia at LB? got a nasty feeling Tim could even consider that for the arsenal game, to exploit the fact Ramsey tucks in
I would imagine he'd be loathe to put Hutton in at left back. But honestly, even if Zogbia does okay today he will die on his arse going up and down the Wembley pitch as a full-back. It would be an enormous ask for him. We'd be asking for a mullering.
Trouble is, do we have many options right now?
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Let's hope no injuries or Reds then. Odd team line up
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Odd team. I'd have thought give given a chance to recover confidence? Nzogbia at LB? got a nasty feeling Tim could even consider that for the arsenal game, to exploit the fact Ramsey tucks in
The one thing for sure next week is we will go for it against Arsenal. We might lose but we won't be doing it in the manner we did vs Chelsea. I'm intrigued now to see N'Zogbia in this role. Can only assume Richardson is fucked too which is a shame.
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If we play nzogbia at lb against arsenal I think we'll be ripped to pieces
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Is one of Guzan or Given finished with us, then? Weird decision to play Steer.
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The one thing for sure next week is we will go for it against Arsenal. We might lose but we won't be doing it in the manner we did vs Chelsea.
Agreed. Tactically, I don't think Sherwood knows anything else. Caution is not a word in his vocabulary.
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Fun team, nice to see some youth on the bench. I wouldn't read too much into the Steer thing regarding Guzan and Given - one of them had to drop from the squad so that Jed could get a game, and they might even have just flipped a coin to see who got it. It's unimportant, really. Much more pointed is the omission of Gil - I think that has to be it for his Villa career now, sadly, and for no real reason that I can see, which is a shame.
Nevertheless, hilarious team. Should be fun.
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Great to see Baker back. Still no Gil. What does the man have to do to get a game?
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Great to see Baker back. Still no Gil. What does the man have to do to get a game?
Baker gets through today and he's starting at Wembley. Vlaar on the right of CB is the right way to go, even if it is harsh on Okore.
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Is one of Guzan or Given finished with us, then? Weird decision to play Steer.
My guess is Given will be back in the line up next week. Sherwood came out a few weeks back saying he rated Steer, so I'd guess it's just a case of having a look.
I guess we'll know for sure this summer where any of our keepers are going to get bombed out.
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Great to see Baker back. Still no Gil. What does the man have to do to get a game?
Baker gets through today and he's starting at Wembley. Vlaar on the right of CB is the right way to go, even if it is harsh on Okore.
I think Jores is more a case of fitness really. He's been playing through the pain barrier for a few weeks apparently. I suspect if he's fit he'll probably get the nod next week.
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Jeff Stelling just said on Sky that 'word is' Weimann and Gil are to be allowed to leave.
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Jeff Stelling just said on Sky that 'word is' Weimann and Gil are to be allowed to leave.
Fair enough with Weimann, but really harsh on Gil I think - especially if Gabby's going to be given his 27th chance to prove himself.
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Fuck the fuckers, gently.
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Jeff Stelling just said on Sky that 'word is' Weimann and Gil are to be allowed to leave.
Fair enough with Weimann, but really harsh on Gil I think - especially if Gabby's going to be given his 27th chance to prove himself.
If N'Zogbia can play for Villa so can I, never mind Gil.
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There really must be something that makes Sherwood think Gil isn't capable of developing the work-rate/mental strength necessary for him to succeed - because to me, those two attributes seem to be the only things that Grealish has which Gil hasn't shown. Otherwise, both seem to have quite similar strengths.
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His mental strength seemed fine to me when he was the only player in the team making anything happen.
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Oh dear, not a good start, one down already
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Pissing around at the back - yet again.
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Here we go again.
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Pissing around at the back - yet again.
aw fuck we're going down
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Defense is dodgy as hell
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You do worry about this defence against arsenal
They could rack up five or six if we keep playing like this
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Our defence is more frightening than a backstage tour with Jimmy Savile.
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What a shocking league campaign it's been.
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We have picked a really bad time to go through a prolonged deterioration at the back.
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Sod it, I'm watching the cricket.
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Arsenal two up already - I think them being two or three up against us at half-time is certainly a possibility
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We can only thank McGrath that we don't need anything from this game to stay up.
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The way we're playing we could be 2 or 3 down soon.
FFS Vlaar...
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Meanwhile the Bitters are giving Arsenal a nice, easy warm-up for next week. 2-0 already.
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Make that 3-0 to Arsenal
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I suspect Ron Vlaar isn't a thinking man.
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3-0 Arse.
Why risk Benteke/Delph getting injured or sent off? Mental.
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Setting ourselves up nicely for next weekend......Why start Steer today? Hopefully we will claw our way into this one.If not I would fear for us next weekend, Les Arse having a ball against the Baggies.
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We're going to take a spannering next week :-(
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Awful football.
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Hull have had two goals disallowed through offside
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Results have improved in recent weeks, but I think we sometimes forget just how poor we have been for most of this season
We're not going to shake that off in a hurry.
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Hull 2 disallowed goals in a minute
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We're going to lull Arsenal into a false sense of security. They'll take us lightly and we'll take advantage.
*can't decide if this is positive thinking or just being gullible.
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Vlaars a fucking liability sometimes, roll on summer and a defensive makeover.
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We're a little worryingly sloppy in attack, and sluggish as well. Having Gabby back doesn't help either - it's so obvious that in terms of technique, movement and football (or any kind of) intelligence he's miles behind the rest of the attack.
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Misplaced passes time and time again.
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If we're going to win the FA Cup we're going to have to score at least three.
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I have no idea what formation we are playing but it's shit
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We are playing this formation so it's impossible for Arsenal scouts to take anything from this game.......
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Downing misses 1 on 1
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I have no idea what formation we are playing but it's shit
Looks like FFS to me.
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It's so quiet it's embarrassing!
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It's obvious we're playing a SHIT-four-two formation.
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Downing misses 1 on 1
We need to take him off and stick Ashley Young on.
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Perhaps we're just playing to limit our own expectations for next weekend.
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"Arsenal will murder you," sing the relegated Burnley wags.
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Delph might have got injured ffs
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Why allow Delph to get kicked to pieces in a meaningless match?
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Why allow Delph to get kicked to pieces in a meaningless match?
Exactly.
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Sherwood needs to undertake a massive overhaul this summer
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What on earth is Delph playing at?
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Brendan Rodgers getting himself sacked today
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Stoke three up against the bindippers - cheerio Gerrard you over-rated twat
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Burnley's sloggers will now take every opportunity to hack Delph.
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Looks like we don't give a fuck.
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N'Zog leaving us exposed, Vlaar in no mans land and Gabby doing nothing.
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Brendan Rodgers getting himself sacked today
It does amuse me just how badly Liverpool have played in Gerrard's last few games.
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Come on the Aston Villa!
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N'Zog is a waste of space.
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Gabby's as dim as a sea cave.
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Arsenal four up now
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Another for Wallcott
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Surely Sinclair is a better option on the break than Forrest Agbonlahor?
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N'Zogbia being forced to cross the ball today. He has no where to hide.
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Amazing how many chances N'Zogbia is given yet he never produces anything - he has done nothing in a Villa shirt and yet the likes of Gil never get a look in. Very strange.
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Surely Sinclair is a better option on the break than Forrest Agbonlahor?
please no sentiment, please no sentiment
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what's worrying is we've lost a lot of the attacking verve we showed vs Everton or Liverpool in the semi. We've regressed to something more like Lambertball recently.
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I'd sell Gabby.
He just represents the creeping acceptance of shitness at the club the last few years.
Spends most of his playing time coasting, doing fuck all.
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what's worrying is we've lost a lot of the attacking verve we showed vs Everton or Liverpool in the semi. We've regressed to something more like Lambertball recently.
Yep, looking every inch a Lambert team. Hopefully a blip.
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I think basically, what is happening is that thing when they say "but Wembley could turn out to be a disruptive distraction", whereas we're lucky it has happened when it doesn't matter any more.
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Arsenal four up now
As are Stoke on the bindippers
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I'd sell Gabby.
He just represents the creeping acceptance of shitness at the club the last few years.
Spends most of his playing time coasting, doing fuck all.
I agree. More than half the time he's barely even competent. It's as if every time he gets the ball he has to actually remember how to kick it.
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That failed trickster shit sums Charlie up.
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The stoke score makes up for this shit
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5-0
Fucking belter.
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Great save.
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I'm glad we having nothing to play for today other than Wembley cup final spots. I can see why we might be taking it easy.
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Make that five for Stoke, hilarious, piss off Gerrard
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I'm glad we having nothing to play for today other than Wembley cup final spots. I can see why we might be taking it easy.
Eh?
Aren't Wembley spots a pretty big thing to play for?
And as for taking it easy, what about last week?
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5 for Stoke
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Heaton should be on our radar for next season.
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Liverpool are getting a right old Rodgering.
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I'm glad we having nothing to play for today other than Wembley cup final spots. I can see why we might be taking it easy.
Then why risk the first team
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Thank fuck that half is over.
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Hoping that's our poor half.
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That Liverpool score is hilarious.
What a good job Mark Hughes has done there.
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5-0 nearly making up for it.
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I'm glad we having nothing to play for today other than Wembley cup final spots. I can see why we might be taking it easy.
Then why risk the first team
You don't play the sarcasm game do you?
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5-0 nearly making up for it.
*prays for Newcastle loss*
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Few muted boos at HT totally unnecessary.
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That Liverpool score is hilarious.
What a good job Mark Hughes has done there.
It makes you wonder what would've happened if we hadn't done that weird backflip on hiring him, allegedly because of the way he walked out on Fulham. Probably just boring mid-table stuff, but compared to the experiences of TSMs 1 and 2...
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I might turn off this shite and tune into the 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' game who are playing with no strikers.
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I do so love it when Zogbia goes on a dribble and forgets to take the ball with him. It's a majestic site. Reminds me of playing Super Kick Off back in the day.
It's all a bit end of seasony today. I hope we have a bit of a spark somewhere in the second half. We might as well bring on Robinson and Green. Give the two lads a go.
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I might turn off this shite and tune into the 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' game who are playing with no strikers.
I thought they were playing with no goalkeeper?
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I'd sell Gabby.
He just represents the creeping acceptance of shitness at the club the last few years.
Spends most of his playing time coasting, doing fuck all.
Really this should be Gabby's villa park farewell game as his old contract was up at the end of this season. Unfortunately the last manager gave him a new 4 year contract.
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I do so love it when Zogbia goes on a dribble and forgets to take the ball with him. It's a majestic site. Reminds me of playing Super Kick Off back in the day.
It's all a bit end of seasony today. I hope we have a bit of a spark somewhere in the second half. We might as well bring on Robinson and Green. Give the two lads a go.
Kick off. Its amazing that game has never been bettered. Such a basic thing but so playable.
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Who is Green ?
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Few muted boos at HT totally unnecessary.
I agree with you, Aftab. We haven't been that bad. I'm sat here in a Tokyo bar, a little worse for wear, but haven't gotten annoyed too much with us yet.
I am disappointed with Gabby. What on earth has happened to him?
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Who is Green ?
16 year old striker who has apparently caught Sherwoods eye. Aside from being described as "jet heeled" I don't know anything else about him.
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I'd sell Gabby.
He just represents the creeping acceptance of shitness at the club the last few years.
Spends most of his playing time coasting, doing fuck all.
Really this should be Gabby's villa park farewell game as his old contract was up at the end of this season. Unfortunately the last manager gave him a new 4 year contract.
Gabby is a pile of shit, get on the phone to qpr for you know who and get rid. If Sherwood keeps him as first choice next season then expect another season like this maybe worse.
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Who is Green ?
16 year old striker who has apparently caught Sherwoods eye. Aside from being described as "jet heeled" I don't know anything else about him.
Oh right. What happened to Russian Hepburn-Murphy ? Odd to give him a run then nothing
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Just give us a couple of goals Villa.
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Who is Green ?
16 year old striker who has apparently caught Sherwoods eye. Aside from being described as "jet heeled" I don't know anything else about him.
Oh right. What happened to Russian Hepburn-Murphy ? Odd to give him a run then nothing
Loaned to Spartak Moscow.
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Better start
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This is much better.
Although Steer is a bit frightening at times.
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Vlaar is an almighty dimwit.
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Fucking fair play to Pearson and Leicester. 4-0 now vs QPR. Nice of QPR to be acting like a relegated team.
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Newcastle one up, that's it I think for Hull
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We're now 17th
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It looks like we've only got one idea going forward. Cross to Benteke.
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Bacuna....pffft!
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It looks like we've only got one idea going forward. Cross to Benteke.
Yeah, I wish we'd try something else. Very often Grealish or Westwood is in a good position on the inside, and they just cross it lamely anyway. Frustrating.
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We're now 17th
What a damp squib of shit if it stays like this.
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We're now 17th
Jesus wept
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We're now 17th
We look like it.
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Some game at Stoke, 5-6, Gerrard all six.
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What about working a one-two around the box guys instead of a hopeful cross....just an idea.
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Watching Grealish, sometimes it's like he's playing an Xbox with a knackered fire button. Have a shot, lad.
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If we come through this with no injuries, a reminder of significant work to do, and baker and vlaar looking fit and ready I won't be too upset
I'm worried about arsenal though. They're probably the perfect side to capitalise on our shocking high line
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It would be a shame if we finish what has been overall a really good end to our league campaign with such a limp display on the back of a battering.
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Oh Gabby, you don't get nothing for hitting the keeper mate....just saying
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Arsenal will tear us another arse hole to go with the 4 or 5 we have.
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Regardless of what happens next week, and regardless of the fact we've saved ourselves, finishing 17th, yet another season of utter, utter shite, is just not good enough.
it has got to stop happening year after year.
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What a time to revert to shiiteness.
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I'd start taking key players off now. We're not going to score.
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Tekkers get's so frustrated playing along side Gabby.
Who wouldn't.
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Fuck sake, make a change. Sidwell and Heskey for the last 15 would do.
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That was much better. Calm, not panicking, bringing the tempo up when you get the chance to.
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I really hope Sherwood selects a team that works well together next week. No room for sentiment at all and if Gabby is stopping the flow and movement we've displayed in recent weeks he simply should not play.
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Tekkers get's so frustrated playing along side Gabby.
Who wouldn't.
It's like being a brain surgeon entering the operating theatre, only to discover your assistant is Mr Blobby.
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Sinclair for Gumplahor please. Get him some game time.
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Tekkers get's so frustrated playing along side Gabby.
Who wouldn't.
It's like being a brain surgeon entering the operating theatre, only to discover your assistant is Mr Blobby.
HA HA HA HA, I'm pinching that one.
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I forget how long the home form has been shite.
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Depressing finish. Looks like we're taking 17th spot beneath Sunderland and toon. Lowest points tally and lowest finish in Premier league
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Depressing finish. Looks like we're taking 17th spot beneath Sunderland and toon. Lowest points tally and lowest finish in Premier league
All Lamberts fault.
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This keeper is really good.
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Lulling Arsenal into a false sense of security 😏 This season can't finish soon enough, hopefully the takeover will erase the possibility of finishing one place lower next year.
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Fuck me, that would have been a corker.
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We can play till ten o'clock. We are not going to score.
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If we need a new keeper - and we do - we could do worse than this one.
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Depressing finish. Looks like we're taking 17th spot beneath Sunderland and toon. Lowest points tally and lowest finish in Premier league
Just goes to show how close we were to the trap door. WOW.
Surgery required in summer.
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Regardless of what happens next week, and regardless of the fact we've saved ourselves, finishing 17th, yet another season of utter, utter shite, is just not good enough.
it has got to stop happening year after year.
I hope Sherwood is the kind of guy who won't tolerate it.
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Regardless of what happens next week, and regardless of the fact we've saved ourselves, finishing 17th, yet another season of utter, utter shite, is just not good enough.
it has got to stop happening year after year.
I hope Sherwood is the kind of guy who won't tolerate it.
I hope he's the sort of bloke who can make it stop happening.
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If we need a new keeper - and we do - we could do worse than this one.
Was thinking that. Heaton has done everything with minimal fuss and looked very assured indeed. He could be the one to push Guzan for the no1 spot. And he's still pretty young too.
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Baker loves getting fucked up doesn't he? I wonder what he's like crossing the road?
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Yeah I was wondering about Heaton too
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Baker loves getting fucked up doesn't he? I wonder what he's like crossing the road?
That's probably why he has that massive beard.
Too scared of risk of slicing his face clean off the front of his head whilst shaving.
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Depressing finish. Looks like we're taking 17th spot beneath Sunderland and toon. Lowest points tally and lowest finish in Premier league
Not sure, i think we got 36 under McLeish.
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If we need a new keeper - and we do - we could do worse than this one.
Was thinking that. Heaton has done everything with minimal fuss and looked very assured indeed. He could be the one to push Guzan for the no1 spot. And he's still pretty young too.
Haven't we been linked to him recently?
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Baker loves getting fucked up doesn't he? I wonder what he's like crossing the road?
That's probably why he has that massive beard.
Too scared of risk of slicing his face clean off the front of his head whilst shaving.
He'll probably shave it off with a chainsaw.
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SHOOOOOT Jack....geeeeeez
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How is Gabby still on the pitch?
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Agbonlahor is truly pointless.
I don't care if he pops up and scores now, he'll never, ever deliver enough over the course of a season for us. Total waster.
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I think Heaton's call-up to the England squad coupled with the pressure being off Burnley completely today has put a bit of lead in his pencil and he feels like a champ. We would have put two or three past him last week with the same chances.
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We are a better team without Agbonlahor in the side, I'm sure of it.
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Very odd, low key last day, almost devoid of any excitement.
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That summed it up from Delph there. Flat footed. When Delph is stood flat footed you know your side has got other things on their mind.
Credit to Burnley they took there chance and have happily sat back on it for most of the game. But we don't look like upping our gears, which is not surprising really. Benteke isn't leaping like a salmon today. It's all a bit half-assed.
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You have to wonder what the point of bringing Robinson back from Preston and missing out on the biggest game of his career
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You have to wonder what the point of bringing Robinson back from Preston and missing out on the biggest game of his career
Indeed.
Especially with the elevation of Steer to the first team, which strikes me as utterly pointless.
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It's funny, because Gabby's only famous for being quick, and yet he's so shit at actual football that every attack slows down as soon as it goes anywhere near him. He needs about two minutes to take it down, look around, weigh up the options, make a decision and fuck it up. It's like passing the ball through a time-slowing vortex.
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You have to wonder what the point of bringing Robinson back from Preston and missing out on the biggest game of his career
TS doing Swindon a favour
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It's been so pointless, I just don't know why we didn't put the nippers out instead.
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You have to wonder what the point of bringing Robinson back from Preston and missing out on the biggest game of his career
TS doing Swindon a favour
I hadn't thought of that.
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It's been so pointless, I just don't know why we didn't put the nippers out instead.
Should have had the players just do like the last day of school.
Bring toys in, or pets even.
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N'zog better not start next week he's a fucking donkey
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If we're going to score again this season, it'll be at Wembley.
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As soon as Zog got that ball you knew he'd fuck it up. How often does he waste really good situations? Not just mess it up or not quite deliver something telling, but really, seriously, wantonly waste the opportunity for no reason?
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N'zog better not start next week he's a fucking donkey
Well it's nzogbia or gabby I imagine
Unless we go back to the 4411 we played at citeh (which I can see the attractions to)
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As soon as Zog got that ball you knew he'd fuck it up. How often does he waste really good situations? Not just mess it up or not quite deliver something telling, but really, seriously, wantonly waste the opportunity for no reason?
He's awful
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Newcastle stay up
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fucking west ham
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I really hope we are saving it all for next week. Because I will forgive the last two weeks because it has been really very poor.
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I'd honestly rather just chuck Cleverley out on the right than play N'Zogbia next week.
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Today was a great opportunity to play some of the squad fillers and kids. I just don't get what he's done today
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Anyone remember Monty Python's Upper Class Twit of the Year? On days like these, we look about as competent as those guys.
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Leicester have utterly battered QPR, now 5-1
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Fuck off N'Zogbia, you're absolutely pointless. You can't score, can't shoot, you're shit scared to cross the ball, in fact I'm struggling to think what it is you actually do other than wear ridiculous bloody clothes.
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sturk 6
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We need to get Nzogs wages off the bill this summer really.
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Stoke 6 Gerrard 1
Jesus, they are bad as us....
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Today was a great opportunity to play some of the squad fillers and kids. I just don't get what he's done today
If we'd lost playing kids nobody would care. Instead we'll now be shitting it because this for the most part is the cup final team.
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We've lost to all 3 relegated sides this season, 5 points out of 18. The cup final us masking another rank season.
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5-10 at Stoke. Gerrard all ten. Lovely stuff.
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league table doesn't look good
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We need to sit all the players down at the end of the season and give them an IQ test. The ones that fail to score above about 65 should be offloaded. So that's at least 10 new players we'll need.
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Complete waste of an afternoon. Could have at least given some of the kids some time and the fans some excitement. Have to say the last two performances have tempered my enthusiasm for next season somewhat. Perhaps we are actually still shit.
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I think Westwood's played well today.
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Newcastle finish fucking 15th
Quite angry tonight
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Complete waste of an afternoon. Could have at least given some of the kids some time and the fans some excitement. Have to say the last two performances have tempered my enthusiasm for next season somewhat. Perhaps we are actually still shit.
Let's not kid ourselves. We've had 5 relegation battles in a row. The players on the whole are pretty shit. There needs to be money spent in the summer and not on risks, gambles, and £2m bit part players. The defence needs a complete overhaul for a start.
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What a monumentally shite season again when you think that we have actually finished below Sunderland, Leicester and Newcastle.
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Last act of another shit season.
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Newcastle finish fucking 15th
Quite angry tonight
Things must be bad, you're normally such a ray of sunshine.
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Boooo!
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Complete waste of an afternoon. Could have at least given some of the kids some time and the fans some excitement. Have to say the last two performances have tempered my enthusiasm for next season somewhat. Perhaps we are actually still shit.
Let's not kid ourselves. We've had 5 relegation battles in a row. The players on the whole are pretty shit. There needs to be money spent in the summer and not on risks, gambles, and £2m bit part players. The defence needs a complete overhaul for a start.
Spot on.
The last two results have been a reminder of the last five years.
The club needs a massive, massive overhaul.
If something good comes out of today, that will be it, a reminder.
Losing 6-1 at Southampton, then losing limply 1-0 at home to a relegated Burnley and ending up 17th.
It is disgraceful, and the FA Cup is not going to change that.
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Glad the season is over. Simply not good enough. Lower than Newcastle, Leicester and Sunderland. Pathetic.
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The two Stokes, Ben and City, the main highlights today.
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Lowest premier league position and least number of goals scored in a top flight season. The Fans deserve an Fa Cup final win after pretty much relentless shit for half a decade. Fuck the tarquins the spoilt ******.
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Looking at Bentekes face at the final whistle he can't wait to leave....
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Sherwood must be gutted to see the majority of his cup final starting line up playing so half-cocked. More worried about not exerting themselves or getting an injury rather than actually trying to win this game.
It's a shame we don't have the depth to just start dropping a load of them after the last two games. Sunderland was shocking, but this was just half-assed. A classic pre-cup final game for a side with nothing to play for.
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Sherwood must be gutted to see the majority of his cup final starting line up playing so half-cocked. More worried about not exerting themselves or getting an injury rather than actually trying to win this game.
It's a shame we don't have the depth to just start dropping a load of them after the last two games. Sunderland was shocking, but this was just half-assed. A classic pre-cup final game for a side with nothing to play for.
Today we needed to either really go for it and exorcise last week, or wrap the best players in cotton wool for the week and play the kids, in the hope of being at it next week.
Instead, we've got the worst of both worlds.
We've played our better players, managed to lose, and ensured that we go into the final with our arses in our hands.
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It's not really that much of a surprise surely? You see this kind of performance time and again
But I am worried about next week. Our defence 😱😱
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That was too close for comfort. 1 place above relegation zone. Shit.
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It's not really that much of a surprise surely? You see this kind of performance time and again
But I am worried about next week. Our defence
We could very easily be two down after 20 minutes - it isn't very difficult to imagine
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Allardyce out at West Ham
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Well, thank God that today was not about survival...
I cant see us beating Arsenal who probably like to win a trophy this season too...
But as Gandalf said..."...there was never much hope. Maybe a fools hope..."
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Allardyce out at West Ham
Slaven Bilić to replace him no doubt. Smart move.
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Gabby is like the pied piper....
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I manage to convince myself, and other people watching with me in Abu dhabi, that we must have played kids. Seems we didn't. We're on for a hiding next week,