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Title: Enough is enough!
Post by: olaftab on May 16, 2015, 05:04:33 PM
Right 5 seasons of struggling to avoid relegation We the fans have had enough. Mr Fox, Mr Sherwood we need a plan to end this nightmare.
Title: Re: Enough is enough!
Post by: Tokyo Sexwhale on May 16, 2015, 05:12:12 PM
No more tears...

Title: Re: Enough is enough!
Post by: SoccerHQ on May 16, 2015, 05:15:26 PM
Aside from today, Sherwood is doing his best and in a short time has inject positvity and a winning mentality into the squad which was no mean feat the state we were in when he turned up. He deserves our support.

The ownership is up in the air, no idea what will happen there. If it's still Lerner I can only hope he fights tooth and nail to keep Benteke and gives Sherwood the 30m he seems to be demanding of any new ownership but I won't be holding my breath on that one.
Title: Re: Enough is enough!
Post by: LTA on May 16, 2015, 05:20:12 PM
If Lerner is reenergised as we keep being told, he needs to prove it this summer.  There's only so often we can dodge the drop. 
Title: Re: Enough is enough!
Post by: Smirker on May 16, 2015, 05:38:12 PM
Spend some proper fucking money.
Title: Re: Enough is enough!
Post by: Tom_Mc9? on May 16, 2015, 05:47:10 PM
If Lerner is reenergised as we keep being told, he needs to prove it this summer.  There's only so often we can dodge the drop. 

We'll be fine next season. Today's result is the exception to the rule since Sherwood's been in.
Title: Re: Enough is enough!
Post by: Toronto Villa on May 16, 2015, 05:50:43 PM
I really do hope we are at the end of the line with our year on year struggles. Sick to death of it. Give me mid table nothingness for a year or two like Southampton or Spurs where the last 6-8 games might get us a bit higher but no danger at all of going down.
Title: Re: Enough is enough!
Post by: Billy Walker on May 16, 2015, 06:42:28 PM
These types of struggles are not acceptable for Villa and I hope beyond hope we have ambitious new custodians in the wings ready re-energise the club and lift us right back up the table.  I think I've aged five years this season, Heaven knows what this is doing to Randy.
Title: Re: Enough is enough!
Post by: aldridgeboy on May 16, 2015, 07:10:37 PM
Ok today was piss poor. But lets put today into relativity. If we win the same amount of games next season under Sherwood as we have under him thus far, we will be doing ok. That's before hes bought improvements etc. File today under " we were shit, forget it, move on"

And win the cup
Title: Re: Enough is enough!
Post by: saunders_heroes on May 16, 2015, 07:24:42 PM
Right 5 seasons of struggling to avoid relegation We the fans have had enough. Mr Fox, Mr Sherwood we need a plan to end this nightmare.

No more bargain basement signings. If we continue to spend around £9m per season we'll continue to struggle at the wrong end. I honestly think this is the end of our struggles though.
Onwards and upwards and all that.
Title: Re: Enough is enough!
Post by: andrew08 on May 18, 2015, 12:46:09 PM
I think it should be said though that for £9 million, even though it's us lot who have suffered watching it, someone at the club seems to know what they're doing. A cup final and safety for £9 million?  Good effort really.

It begs the question though, would 2 or 3 more players have given us another 6 or 7 points? And if so so what. What's the difference between 9th and 15th anyway. Shitty old league isn't it really.
Title: Re: Enough is enough!
Post by: Clampy on May 18, 2015, 01:08:28 PM
Right 5 seasons of struggling to avoid relegation We the fans have had enough. Mr Fox, Mr Sherwood we need a plan to end this nightmare.

No more bargain basement signings. If we continue to spend around £9m per season we'll continue to struggle at the wrong end. I honestly think this is the end of our struggles though.
Onwards and upwards and all that.

Whilst I agree more investment is needed, Sherwood has shown how to get the most of the squad we had, which in fairness wasn't all that bad anyway.
Title: Re: Enough is enough!
Post by: Boz on May 18, 2015, 02:09:03 PM
The majority of posts on this thread are positive, despite the Thread title and are not the often usual despondent  pessimistic posts that to be honest were more often than not deserved.

TS has hopefully raised the optimism of fans that next season Villa will be on the up.

I hope that there is now truly a light at the end of a long dark tunnel.
Title: Re: Enough is enough!
Post by: JUAN PABLO on May 18, 2015, 02:30:09 PM
We spent 9 million this season , most the time we were shit, yet we have reached a cup final.

We have actually got some bloody good players and I like Sherwood , so come on Randy , imagine what we could do if you give us 30/40million on the budget .

Title: Re: Enough is enough!
Post by: olaftab on May 18, 2015, 08:07:54 PM
The majority of posts on this thread are positive, despite the Thread title and are not the often usual despondent  pessimistic posts that to be honest were more often than not deserved.

TS has hopefully raised the optimism of fans that next season Villa will be on the up.

I hope that there is now truly a light at the end of a long dark tunnel.

Nope the thread title is anything but negative. Looking for a positive plan to get us out of the mire and becoming competitive. Whilst things have been good under Tim it feels a bit like the second half of Lambert's first season. At the time we all felt we had turned the corner but it was a false dawn. So we need a proper plan now to not repeat another season amongst the down and out!
Title: Re: Enough is enough!
Post by: warleyboy on May 18, 2015, 10:31:19 PM
The majority of posts on this thread are positive, despite the Thread title and are not the often usual despondent  pessimistic posts that to be honest were more often than not deserved.

TS has hopefully raised the optimism of fans that next season Villa will be on the up.

I hope that there is now truly a light at the end of a long dark tunnel.

Nope the thread title is anything but negative. Looking for a positive plan to get us out of the mire and becoming competitive. Whilst things have been good under Tim it feels a bit like the second half of Lambert's first season. At the time we all felt we had turned the corner but it was a false dawn. So we need a proper plan now to not repeat another season amongst the down and out!

I think that's a little unfair olaftab, TS has worked wonders with what Lambert could obviously not do.
We have played some great attacking and exciting football, crowd increases, great interviews, tekkers back on fire etc
He has put some pride back into our club, and hopefully a fa cup to follow.
I for one cannot wait to see what he can do with his pre season and new buys.
The futures bright the futures villa....
Title: Re: Enough is enough!
Post by: Matt Collins on May 19, 2015, 07:10:32 AM
Right 5 seasons of struggling to avoid relegation We the fans have had enough. Mr Fox, Mr Sherwood we need a plan to end this nightmare.

No more bargain basement signings. If we continue to spend around £9m per season we'll continue to struggle at the wrong end. I honestly think this is the end of our struggles though.
Onwards and upwards and all that.

I Agree we should spend more money. But surely our form under sherwood gives lie to the view that with our outlay we can only struggle. See also Stoke, Swansea, palace.

If we start next season with the current squad plus a left back I'd be delighted. Though would be great to add more

If we lose benteke we need to reinvest the whole lot wisely and ambitiously
Title: Re: Enough is enough!
Post by: postal on May 19, 2015, 08:33:24 AM
I Agree we should spend more money. But surely our form under sherwood gives lie to the view that with our outlay we can only struggle. See also Stoke, Swansea, palace.

If we start next season with the current squad plus a left back I'd be delighted. Though would be great to add more

If we lose benteke we need to reinvest the whole lot wisely and ambitiously

If we lose benteke (and if we do, pls to a non-Premiership) the tactics of the team may have to change.

A left back and centre defender is a must anyway

Also when (if) we win our 1st 4 games, dont get carried away  ;)
Title: Re: Enough is enough!
Post by: not3bad on May 19, 2015, 09:23:52 AM
The ownership issue needs to be sorted out ASAP.  If we're being sold get it sorted. If not then announce that we're not and then we can cut our cloth accordingly.
Title: Re: Enough is enough!
Post by: olaftab on May 24, 2015, 08:18:24 PM
I am grateful that Fox made the change and Sherwood won 5 games to keep us up however he still lost 7 which means he will need lot of help and backing to move us upwards. Finishing 17th is just not good enough.
Title: Re: Enough is enough!
Post by: silhillvilla on May 24, 2015, 08:24:28 PM
The minimum income next season is £100m. The books are balanced. Assuming we don't sell Benteke I'd like to see a transfer budget of circa £25m .
Title: Re: Enough is enough!
Post by: villan from luton on May 24, 2015, 09:30:41 PM
I am grateful that Fox made the change and Sherwood won 5 games to keep us up however he still lost 7 which means he will need lot of help and backing to move us upwards. Finishing 17th is just not good enough.

I dread to think how many games we would have won if Lambert had still been in charge. Yes the performance today was not good enough, just like last week, but lets see how Sherwood does in the transfer market. I am hopeful of better days
Title: Re: Enough is enough!
Post by: olaftab on June 01, 2015, 02:01:53 PM
Last 3 games lost and 11 conceded is very worrying.
I fear the Benteke transfer saga being stretched out over entire summer and new owners/not new owners situation is  seriously going to hamper our ability to sort out the squad and not repeat another season of fighting relegation.
Title: Re: Enough is enough!
Post by: silhillvilla on June 01, 2015, 02:12:59 PM
Well I'm guessing no takeover is imminent . Something would of been announced today .
Title: Re: Enough is enough!
Post by: Jimbo on June 01, 2015, 02:16:13 PM
Well I'm guessing no takeover is imminent . Something would of been announced today .

Of you been expecting an announcement?
Title: Re: Enough is enough!
Post by: silhillvilla on June 01, 2015, 02:17:41 PM
Well I'm guessing no takeover is imminent . Something would of been announced today .

Of you been expecting an announcement?
Just on the logic if anyone was sniffing about and had made an acceptable offer on the basis we stayed up. I'd say that would of been announced today after the season end.
Title: Re: Enough is enough!
Post by: Goldie.7 on June 01, 2015, 02:17:58 PM
Well I'm guessing no takeover is imminent . Something would of been announced today .

No they have to get out the horse shit from the players about 'how they all will do better' next time/season first.
Title: Re: Enough is enough!
Post by: Comrade Blitz on June 01, 2015, 02:18:25 PM
Sherwood's comments about certain players not having a winning attitude should've been followed first this this morning with a press release listing all of the players who have been released.

Title: Re: Enough is enough!
Post by: silhillvilla on June 01, 2015, 02:25:14 PM
Sherwood's comments about certain players not having a winning attitude should've been followed first this this morning with a press release listing all of the players who have been released.
Only those out of contract can be released. So the likes of CNZ and Weimann are safe .
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