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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on May 16, 2015, 11:46:56 AM
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Given, Bacuna, Vlaar, Okore, Hutton, Westwood, Delph, Cleverley, N’Zogbia, Grealish, Benteke
Subs: Guzan, Weimann, Agbonlahor, Senderos, Sanchez, Lowton, Sinclair.
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Fuck the fuckers.
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Win and we're safe. Let's do it lads.
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Richardson injured I take it?
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Win this Villa and end the worry.
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Richardson injured then.
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Richardson injured I take it?
Maybe but id have made that change anyway
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Richardson has been the weakest link recently, so no great loss.
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Richardson has been the weakest link recently, so no great loss.
Really? QPR aside when he wasn't fit, I can't remember him doing anything wrong.
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Sherwood loves Rico, doubt he's dropped him.
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Richardson has been the weakest link recently, so no great loss.
Really? QPR aside when he wasn't fit, I can't remember him doing anything wrong.
Gives the ball away too frequently, as he did against West Ham.
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Good to see Sinclair back on the bench.
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Lets get it won. I'd rather not have the rest of the afternoon checking Hull's score.
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Good to see Sinclair back on the bench.
He'll replace the disappointing N'Zogbia on 67 minutes.
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Think that side should beat Southampton. Hutton is reliable so I trust him fitting in on the left. He doesn't have to get too far forward as our attackers like to target the left.
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Three points and safety please.
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Scholes putting down our recent revival primarily down to Benteke. Really lazy punditry.
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Scholes putting down our recent revival primarily down to Benteke. Really lazy punditry.
I just think it is typical Man U trying take away the spotlight on Gerrard Day. Anything to get noticed.
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Hope he's 100% wrong about Cleverly.
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What did he say?
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He thinks he will go to Everton
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Who cares what that knob says? The player himself has made it clear he's really happy at Villa.
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Why is Scholes even a pundit? Looks like he'd rather not be doing it, and as if it takes a huge effort to say a few words. He never did interviews as a player, as a pundit he's as humourless as Roy Keane with not much insight.
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I'll be relying on Sox Sports News while I'm out. So the fun of getting a text and wondering what's happened.
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I kind of like Scholes for his dry delivery. But that doesn't mean he's a great psychologist or anything. The most talented players often aren't.
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Scholes is a terrible pundit really, only good for a bit of blunt rent-a-quoting. Shame because you'd think with a player with his level of footballing intelligence should be able to transfer a semblance of that into his analysis.
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The Jamaican Bobsleigh Team is an interesting idea for final game fancy dress but they're directly in the sun and must be baking
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Scholes is fucking woeful as a pundit. Win please Villa.
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come on my Villa babies! Fuck Scholes.
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Lets put this to bed boys. COME ON THE VILLA!!
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Would love Grealish to score.
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Phew.
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Lucky there.
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Blimey! Should have been 1-0
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wake up villa
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Defence needs to wake up quick.
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Big holes appearing in our defence again.
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Sloppy start.
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Another great run from Pele
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If we're as open as this at the back against Arsenal they'll be home and dry in twenty minutes.
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That was fucking rubbish Okore.
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Twice already Pele has got in behind us.
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Thought that was in
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Okare being exposed
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Cripes.
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That was a chance.
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Shocking miss from Benteke.
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Holloway being very nice about us on 5Live.
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Arghhhhh, got to score there Benteke.
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shite defending ffs
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Bollocks!
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Fuck off.
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He knew he was offside!
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Ffs
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Totally deserved that.
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Ballcocks
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Shit defending.
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Bit nlucky with he bounce but that was coming, straight down the middle. Shit defending.
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Shit.
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That's been coming we've defended appallingly. Right sort it the fuck out Villa.
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Again Okare
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Looks like we're relying on other results.
EDIT: 2-0 Southampton.
We could take a beating here.
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Utter garbage at the back.
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Fuck sake.
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Vlaar and Okore been pwnd twice already, we wuz asking for it.
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Actually try and fucking defend Villa.
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fucking jokers
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For fuck sake
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Oh god...
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Terrible, terrible defending, starting with Okore then Vlaar and Hutton. Shit all round. Shit.
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What's going on
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What the fuck Vlaar.
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Absolute fucking moron
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The fucking idiot Vlaar again.
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Bloody hell Villa.
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Well done lads what a fucking joke. That is absolutely criminal defending.
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This is horrible!!
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We're playing like we think we safe. Wake up. We are still in trouble.
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Fucking hell what a complete and utter disaster. Dreadful defending are you fucking kidding me
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Could easily be four down
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Vlaar sucking awful
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Fuck me what are we doing.
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Comical defending. Fucking unbelievable. We're playing as though we're safe.
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Useless twat, Vlaar.
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You know we're not safe yet Villa? Well done Vlaar you fucking idiot.
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Anyway, we're still not relying on other results, a win against Burnley makes us safe whatever happens elsewhere.
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What the hell is Vlaar on today? Jesus.
Fucking hell. 3-0.
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Turn it off
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Fastest hat-trick of all time.
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This is a fucking joke
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were goin down jesus this will be a land slide
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well game over
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Could easily be four down
Give it a couple of minutes.
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A three minute hat-trick!
Cripes.
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Game over. Abysmal.
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Jesus fucking christ, what are they doing? This is going to be an 8-0 like they did to Sunderland.
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3-0 this is fucking disgraceful. We're not safe yet Villa you fucking bunch of clowns.
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Annihilation.
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We're on the beach.
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Sorry. We are going down.
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Mane will never have an easier game in his life.
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WHAT THE FUCKING HELL IS GOING ON?
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WTF is going on? It's like the past three months never happened. Defending is awful
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this is utter fucking bollocks
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Pathetic and another shit fucking record against us.
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Fucking hope Spurs win, because this is fucking pathetic.
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Oh dear
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We aren't going down ffs relax.
Appalling defending though.
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We need to calm it down and try and get a goal back before half time.
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Oh well. Come on you Spurs!
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typical fucking villa
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Sorry. We are going down.
So Hull are going to win both their games and we are going to lose to Burnley, never mind Slumberland and Newcastle.
Stop panicking.
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Well I guess we could end the season without getting another unwanted record
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Paul Lambert will be embarrassed he never got that record.
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that should be 4 now
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Right, last week nerves against Burnley it is then.
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Could easily be 6-1 now.
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Nearly in again there.
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Vlaar is playing for Southampton already
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just got in got the game on, to see 3 goals in a matter of minutes, awful defending, thrown the game away
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From a point where Benteke should have scored to make it 1-0, we are shockingly 3-0 down. Utterly astonishing. The defence should be ashamed of themselves.
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It's been fucking humiliating.
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wenger will be watchin this and knowing now how to rip us apart
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2.56 sec hat trick. All easily preventable too.
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The only concrete thing about Ron Vlaar is his brain.
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Fuck me. It's like watching me trying to defend at FIFA. When 12 year old kids ping long balls over the top and my back four stand around like utter morons.
What the fuck has happened to the players?
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Vlaars been playing like a 16 year old striker who's been thrown into defence to make his debut.
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Prem record for a hat trick 2min 56 sec
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Can't win 'em all but we really need to sort a stable defence out for next season. You have to wonder whether that's an end to the us giving Vlaar a new contract talk?
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Defence just disgraceful. A whole new back 4 in the summer please.
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One thing's for certain, we're not going to overhaul the Albion...
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We are all over the place we can't deal with Mane's pace.
Southampton have been gifted these goal today.
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From a point where Benteke should have scored to make it 1-0, we are shockingly 3-0 down. Utterly astonishing. The defence should be ashamed of themselves.
He was offside anyway
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Glad I didn't knock off work early to watch this shite.
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Not a big lover of Richardson but without him we dont have a left footed player in the defence
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Got to just make it 3-1 at half time, that's what we should target.
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Can't win 'em all but we really need to sort a stable defence out for next season. You have to wonder whether that's an end to the us giving Vlaar a new contract talk?
I wonder whether he is fully fit. He was limping last week
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Where's the leadership here.
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Not watching the match, my phone buzzed as my scores app tells me someone has scored. Without my glasses on I struggle to see from the notification who has scored.
Put glasses on and am astonished to learn they've scored three fucking times
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Defensively you'd be disappointed to concede one of those goals but three!
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Well good game for Tim to learn. Defence is unbalanced with these four.
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Can't win 'em all but we really need to sort a stable defence out for next season. You have to wonder whether that's an end to the us giving Vlaar a new contract talk?
I wonder whether he is fully fit. He was limping last week
Fit or not .. still should hit a back pass properly
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You've got to question the thinking of Vlaar, we've just gone 1-0 down so you play a risky pass across the face of the goal?
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wooosh easy
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Erm... this is shocking. 4-0
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Just one of those games. Shame it had to come at this time...though I do hope this means we don't get a repeat performance next week or in the cup final.
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Unbelievable.
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What an absolute shower of fucking shit. Make a change NOW!
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Fucking four this is gonna be double figures at this rate.
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Bloody hell
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fuck this, it's sunny outside.
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4 0 now
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Again, just awful.
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GD been destroyed by this game
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Really getting pissed off right now
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Jesus Christ almighty. Absolutely embarrassing.
And what the fuck was Bacuna doing claiming offside.
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That is staggeringly bad.
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Game over, utter embarrassment.
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Okore and Vlaar have been utterly abysmal.
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And a fucking nother.
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The only positive it aint happening in the final cause they all need dropping at the back
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every goal the same = need to change it or it will get worse. Villa making losing very simple.
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They should be fined their wages for this.
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If only Clark was fit
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Rather today than next week or at the cup final.
Fuck me we could beat the record of eight at chelsea
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Plenty about Vlaar,Okare never had a clue,a look or a inkling that Pelle was behind him
Shocking
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This is some of the worst defending I've seen.
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Fucking hell.
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Wow!
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Holy shit just got in and seen score. Bloody hell.
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Shambolic
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They're going to score every attack
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No red cards now, this game is gone and goal diff is shattered beyond repair,
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This is going to give the teams around us such a lift especially with our goal difference getting such a hammering.
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I think there's a Madness track with an appropriate title for this.
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Just hope my 4 4 prediction comes true😢
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4 of them just watching Long pass that into the net. Im off out now we now need the points differential because GD is shot
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Given out!
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Why the fuck do the defence look so slow? Even that big sack of shite Pelle is running off the pair of our centre halves with ease. Three substitutions at half time isn't enough, I'd have the fucking lot of them off.
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I hope that was not supporters walking out.Hate that shit
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This is utterly dismal, fucking embarrassing.
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Our goal difference taking an absolute hammering as well.
Come on Spurs for crying out loud.
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Holloway on R5 keeps saying we are a young side. That is utter bull. We have experience all over the pitch
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it could make the burnley game a bigger game than the cup final
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We deserve to go down for ths shambles alone. The real Aston Villa are back. Gutless, spineless and passionless.
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Richardson out and we fall apart at the back...
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We're playing a suicidally high line and nobody's sprinting back when we lose possession, they're just jogging.
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Everybody looks poor to me.
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I've just been physically sick
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4 quick goals and we are right back in it
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Talk about complacency. This is a massive kick in the bollocks and devalues so much of the good work done leading up to this game. We deserved everything before this game and deserve everything today. This is not who we are but it shows some of the true weaknesses of some of the players. Sherwood is going to rip into this lot.
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Well, things really were going too well recently. This is how Tim plays - open, up for it, win-or-lose stuff, and it got him a few hammerings against as well as for at Spurs. Really we were overdue this. The only real problem is that if they'd sacked Lambert earlier this bollocks wouldn't matter as much! If we'd just drawn that match at Hull we'd be safe by now.
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After this , arsenal will be over confident and were win the final
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Maybe we need this in some ways to remind ourselves why we are where we are.
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I hope this is our poor half.
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Don't forget the disallowed goal that was onside.
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This should boost the spirits of all the teams below us. Hope Burnley aren't watching this.
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Same goal diff as Newcastle now and only 2 better than burnley
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Massively complacent.
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Well, things really were going too well recently. This is how Tim plays - open, up for it, win-or-lose stuff, and it got him a few hammerings against as well as for at Spurs. Really we were overdue this. The only real problem is that if they'd sacked Lambert earlier this bollocks wouldn't matter as much! If we'd just drawn that match at Hull we'd be safe by now.
He does play and encourage an open style but even that doesn't account for the abysmal defending on display today. It's been way worse than horrendous and goes back to the battering we took at Arsenal earlier in the season
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This is one of the worst back fours I've ever seen at Villa and is the reason why we've struggled to drag ourselves away from the foot of the table despite playing good football under Sherwood.
By the way, Bacuna and Okore have been just abysmal.
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Saints look like they're going to score every time they go forward
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STOP FUCKING ABOUT AT THE BACK
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Fuck off. I popped to the shops at 0-0 20 minutes ago come back and we are 4 down? Someone tell me this isn't happening.
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As much as this is an unexpected big pile of shit, if Hull can't beat Spurs it doesn't really matter.
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Perhaps they've tried something different in training and it's backfired.
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How about fucking learn and stop pissing about at the back. Bacuna is back to his worst in terms of defending.
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So far, this has been a horrific performance from the back 4. Not much the rest have done wrong but watch with shock like the rest of us.
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Well, things really were going too well recently. This is how Tim plays - open, up for it, win-or-lose stuff, and it got him a few hammerings against as well as for at Spurs. Really we were overdue this. The only real problem is that if they'd sacked Lambert earlier this bollocks wouldn't matter as much! If we'd just drawn that match at Hull we'd be safe by now.
He does play and encourage an open style but even that doesn't account for the abysmal defending on display today. It's been way worse than horrendous and goes back to the bat trig we took at Arsenal earlier in the season
No of course, you're right, but it's true that if you're as open as we are then you leave yourself exposed to attacking and give your defenders more stuff to do - i.e., you give them more opportunities to mess up, and if your name is R. Vlaar that's plenty.
I'm not complaining, I've been wishing for a manager to play this sort of football for years, even if it means a few twattings from time to time. The balls is that, had they sacked Lambert earlier, we wouldn't be in this mess where the twattings actually matter.
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What a waste of a free kick.
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Load of bollocks. Even the tactical mastermind Holloway on 5live is pointing out both full backs too far forward at the same time.
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Good thinking with that free kick as well.
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Fuck off. I popped to the shops at 0-0 20 minutes ago come back and we are 4 down? Someone tell me this isn't happening.
;D
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Odds now 33/1 to be relegated
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Well, things really were going too well recently. This is how Tim plays - open, up for it, win-or-lose stuff, and it got him a few hammerings against as well as for at Spurs. Really we were overdue this. The only real problem is that if they'd sacked Lambert earlier this bollocks wouldn't matter as much! If we'd just drawn that match at Hull we'd be safe by now.
Tudo ou nada.
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Fcuk me there's still 55 minutes left
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As much as this is an unexpected big pile of shit, if Hull can't beat Spurs it doesn't really matter.
A draw keeps us right in the shit until next week.
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Fuck off. I popped to the shops at 0-0 20 minutes ago come back and we are 4 down? Someone tell me this isn't happening.
From watching the first goal go in to picking the post up, we're 3-0 down. Unbelievable. These fuckers need to know their FA Cup place is on the line.
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Fuck off. I popped to the shops at 0-0 20 minutes ago come back and we are 4 down? Someone tell me this isn't happening.
It could be 6-0 no joking
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Odds now 33/1 to be relegated
How much did you put on that led to them being cut in half that quickly?
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Fuck off
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Can't blame Sherwood for the hopeless players at the back
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Fucking hell. 5-0.
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Pants pulled down there.
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Westwood you twat
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Paul Lambert rears his ugly head and look what happens.
Five fucking nil. Players should be fucking ashamed.
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And of course, our already shit goal difference takes another battering.
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It's like FIFA on easy mode. We're making Shane Long look word class again.
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Every one of these players should be told their FA cup final place is under threat.
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What a goal though
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I hope that was not supporters walking out.Hate that shit
Loads have walked out. Oh, and FUCK IT!
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Oops.
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My 4 4 has gone
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At 3-0 I popped to the pub to drown my sorrows. As soon as i walk in there are 2 Saints fans sat under the telly celebrating the 4th. Bastards
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Well this is fucking good isn't it?
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Complacency is the word. It's been the bane of our lives these last few seasons. But when you're relying on the likes of Bacuna as a defender, and Vlaar, who is a proper dimbo, then you're always close to a whupping.
That goal was brilliant, but Westwood was a fucking idiot.
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Sorry, that's enough. I'm out.
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5-0 disgusting.
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Cahm on you Spurs.
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Jesus fucking Christ. 5-0 now and could have been even worse. Why are we playing such a high fucking line? It's fucking crazy. Fuck.
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westwood loses the ball because vlaar et al who can see Long coming say nothing
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Holy shit. Stop the match and give them the points now
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Every mistake is being punished.There have been plenty of them to punish.
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Complacency is the word. It's been the bane of our lives these last few seasons. But when you're relying on the likes of Bacuna as a defender, and Vlaar, who is a proper dimbo, then you're always close to a whupping.
That goal was brilliant, but Westwood was a fucking idiot.
It was a shit pass to Westwood. It should have gone back to Given. Bacuna and Okore should both have been subbed 10 minutes ago.
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I knew this team had a few clangers in them but I didn't expect that....
....bricking it now.
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This is the most embarrassing display in all my long years of supporting Villa. Disgraceful all round
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Oh fuck off Villa. Well done, all fist face needs to do this afternoon is tell Hull the score, what more motivation do they need?
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At 3-0 I popped to the pub to drown my sorrows. As soon as i walk in there are 2 Saints fans sat under the telly celebrating the 4th. Bastards
They are getting on my tits now
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I'm going for a run. A long, hard punishing run...
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I'd rest benteke now for next week
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Just what the fcuk was bacuna doing with that pass.
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We've barely won a tackle all game.
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Bacuna is a fucking woeful defender.
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No way was that Westwood's fault, bloody hopeless from Okore and Bacuna. Just pissing around with the ball.
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Just a case of how many now. I think we have to park the bus in the second half now.
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Park the bus? With these clowns at the back?
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What a shot by hutton
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Im in fuckin bits
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This is the most embarrassing display in all my long years of supporting Villa. Disgraceful all round
Chelsea? Bradford?
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Look back at my history and I said this from day one. He played away at fullham at FB and was woeful defending
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Ron vlaar is utter shit and has been for three seasons. Man u can have him
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What do you say at half time ? Please keep the score down ? There is no game plan to claw this back .
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Tell you what this performance might make Cleverley and Benteke's mind up.
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Park the bus? With these clowns at the back?
No, the actual bus!
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Dunno about parking the bus. We'd need to stick a fucking aircraft carrier in front of the goal at this rate.
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Never seen so many mistakes at the back for years. Disgusting performance and just goes to show how many poor players we still have in the squad.
We need investment in the summer. No more bargain basement rubbish.
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I'm in shock. Fans going home. Don't blame them at all
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we are a team that plays on confidence and that is shot at the moment
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This is the most embarrassing display in all my long years of supporting Villa. Disgraceful all round
Chelsea? Bradford?
It's not over yet
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Tell you what this performance might make Cleverley and Benteke's mind up.
Not really. They are as culpable as the rest
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Well at least we have Given back between the sticks, that's been a roaring success too!
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Is sherwood paralysed or something? Why haven't we made any changes?
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No one to drop okore and vlaar for
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The thing is, they've performed far, far better than this against better opponents. These players aren't totally shit.
So what the fuck has happened? They all look so slow and weak. Okore in particular looks like he's got concussion or something.
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Well at least we have Given back between the sticks, that's been a roaring success too!
Nothing to do with today,but i prefer Guzan
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Senders at half time please
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Bertrand a player lambert made shit
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Get in!
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The comeback!
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fuck me we scored
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Well! There's a consolation for us. 5-1.
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Goal
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The fight back begins!
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Is sherwood paralysed or something? Why haven't we made any changes?
He's fucking stunned like the rest of us. Nobody saw this coming. We were playing really well until the first disaster goal.
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Four more to go, let's go get them.
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We have a goal.
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woo 5-1.
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We're gonna win 6-5
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We will win this now
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It's on. 4 to go
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I'd settle for 6-3 here. Let's at least get a few bloody goals - sod parking the bus for all the good it would do us...
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Game on.
Get an early 2nd half goal and you never know.
Or more likely they'll batter us 8-1.
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Disgusting first half pretty much as bad as I've seen. They need to go out and put in a hell of a performance in the second half now.
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Well at least we have Given back between the sticks, that's been a roaring success too!
Guzan kicking is shite. That seems to more important to people than all other attributes.
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Is sherwood paralysed or something? Why haven't we made any changes?
He's fucking stunned like the rest of us. Nobody saw this coming. We were playing really well until the first disaster goal.
Were we hell. We should have already been 1 down by the time that went in.
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Bentekes 13th pl goal of season. Leicester, spurs have come back from huge defects against us before, about time we did same to someone else
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"Just fackin' score annuver 4 goals you facking banch of fackin comedians!"
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Well at least we have Given back between the sticks, that's been a roaring success too!
Guzan kicking is shite. That seems to more important to people than all other attributes.
Not to me
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Time for Sir Graham "You got yourselves into this mess so you...."
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Is sherwood paralysed or something? Why haven't we made any changes?
He's fucking stunned like the rest of us. Nobody saw this coming. We were playing really well until the first disaster goal.
Were we hell. We should have already been 1 down by the time that went in.
We were playing fine. Knocking it about as we have been in recent weeks.That we might have conceded doesn't change that. Nothing at all suggested this was going to happen.
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Suicidal incompetence from Villa today so far. All over we look nonplussed and inefficient in terms of passing and movement. Credit to Southampton, some good goals from their point of view.
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The problem is for all Guzan's averageness this last 12 months and for his shit kicking, swapping him for Given is just swapping one lot of faults for a different, arguably bigger list of faults.
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The problem is for all Guzan's averageness this last 12 months and for his shit kicking, swapping him for Given is just swapping one lot of faults for a different, arguably bigger list of faults.
You're blaming the keeper...really!!!??
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Southampton have been far too physical for us today, we can't seem to handle it - might be a good hard lesson for Tim for next season.
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Is Okore still carrying an injury?
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The problem is for all Guzan's averageness this last 12 months and for his shit kicking, swapping him for Given is just swapping one lot of faults for a different, arguably bigger list of faults.
I'm not sure you can blame Given there.
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Tell you what this performance might make Cleverley and Benteke's mind up.
Very true. Watching Cleverly, it looks like he's already decided. Delph has been just as bad and then we have our defence.
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Well at least we have Given back between the sticks, that's been a roaring success too!
Guzan kicking is shite. That seems to more important to people than all other attributes.
Not to me
I compare Given to Shilton. Still great shot stoppers at the end of their careers but at 39 you just dont have the strength and agility of a younger keeper
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Terrible defending I'm shocked I didn't expect this 5-1 down before half time.
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I was just thinking that we should take Benteke off to protect him.
Its time for Tim to earn his money.
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How easy was that goal we scored shame most of the team haven't turned up today. Even worse when you are in touching distance of the finish line.
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The problem is for all Guzan's averageness this last 12 months and for his shit kicking, swapping him for Given is just swapping one lot of faults for a different, arguably bigger list of faults.
You're blaming the keeper...really!!!??
Clearly not, I'm just ranting.
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Tell you what this performance might make Cleverley and Benteke's mind up.
Very true. Watching Cleverly, it looks like he's already decided. Delph has been just as bad and then we have our defence.
Rubbish. The way TC has played the last few games he wants to stay
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We've generally played like we think we're safe, even though we aren't. I still think Hull are going down anyway
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My fault chaps. Was so confident this morning I lumped £50 on us at 3/1. Sincere apologies.
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Has anyone put the fault at the back four yet and not Given.....Geeeeez!
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The problem is for all Guzan's averageness this last 12 months and for his shit kicking, swapping him for Given is just swapping one lot of faults for a different, arguably bigger list of faults.
You're blaming the keeper...really!!!??
Cant say Given had much chance with any of the goals. Must be soul destroying playing behind these halfwits
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A side completely adept at foiling a high line and springing with pace when they win it back. It's been absolutely text book from their point of view. Desperate stuff Villa.
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I wasn't going to drink today. Now I fucking need one!
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Hull need to win and this will give them loads of encouragement. The fear is Spurs with nothing to play for will roll over but then again Hull fans would have been thinking the same about Southampton.
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Just watching the goals back again, they've been ruthless in making the most of our mistakes. We've had too many of these sorts of games in recent seasons.
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On the bright side, we're winning the possession 60-40
*Brendan Rodgers face*
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Maybe a wake up call
All my mates and colleagues who arent Villa fans have been saying all week we are safe.I have suggested we are not and today proves the case.
Come on the Spurs
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Just watching the goals back and yeah Given could have done better on a fair few of them.
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I never want see Ron Vlaar plaing in our famous shirt ever again.
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When they showed mcmanaman and scholes scoring their favourite goals against us . I just knew it
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We started ok should of scored then we crumbled.Conceding 3 so quickly destroyed us and gave them a major lift, they have been coasting for weeks and dropped points to our rivals.
Once going behind it has been hard for us to get the tempo back.Given I don't think has been great , that Long goal I think his positing was suspect.3rd goal even not sure his position for that was great either.
I think need put gabby on and maybe sinclair too need some more pace in the team
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Am in town in a villa shirt. People keep laughing at me. I didn't expect this when I got up today.
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Cheer up its not the worst display we've had this season!
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The reason we have been near the bottom all season is because that defence is shite. Lambert tried to protect it by being negative, Sherwood has tried to protect it by offensive. Whichever way you look at it they are shite.
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Only saw last three mins of half, nice header from Benteke and assist from Bacuna. What else have I missed?
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This is payback for the other year when they had about 70 shots on target, we had 3 shots all game and won 3-2.
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The reason we have been near the bottom all season is because that defence is shite. Lambert tried to protect it by being negative, Sherwood has tried to protect it by offensive. Whichever way you look at it they are shite.
...is the correct answer. Mind you, they've played better than this. Way better, so they're not that bad, but I think it's more the combination of players out there right now. Hutton on the left, Bacuna and Okore on the same side and no Sanchez to provide a bit of muscle in front of them.
But you're right, the defence isn't very good.
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We need a massive second half here. We're not going to get a result, but we need to drag it back.
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The really frightening thing is that, to me, this is our best back 4.
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Charlie and jack off and Gabby and Sanchez on for me
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Has anyone put the fault at the back four yet and not Given.....Geeeeez!
We don't appear to have a back four, they are look like they have just met each other in the tunnel! Mistake after mistake! Unacceptable! Arsenal must be licking their lips!
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What are we doing playing such a high line with lumbering defenders trying to cope with nippy forwards? In many ways Southampton have had a day to dream about, with just about every rebound dropping nicely for them, but we have asked for trouble.
There's nothing quite like seeing your team tatered and have it all described by whiny scouse accents.
Win the second half you fuckers.
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At least the manager will kick backside instead of saying we were excellent.
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This could change tims summer shopping list ?
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We need a massive second half here. We're not going to get a result, but we need to drag it back.
Yep
5-3 would do
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Tactics Tim?
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Vlaar has had one of those games he has every now and again. It's why he's never played for one of the top clubs. Sherwood needs to resist the temptation to throw the baby out with the bath water though, as we've played well until this game.
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If we score early in the 2nd half we only need 3 and we can score 3 goals tbh, not over yet.
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We need a massive second half here. We're not going to get a result, but we need to drag it back.
I think it comes down to pride at this point, so maybe we'll see which of them have got any.
So this summer, we need two full-backs, two centre-backs, a creative centre-midfielder, and probably a new striker.
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What are we doing playing such a high line with lumbering defenders trying to cope with nippy forwards? In many ways Southampton have had a day to dream about, with just about every rebound dropping nicely for them, but we have asked for trouble.
There's nothing quite like seeing your team tatered and have it all described by whiny scouse accents.
Win the second half you fuckers.
Just heard that point about the high line from the scousers. Have to agree. Back four are crap, not Givens fault at all! Thought I would never say it , but come on you Spurs!
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Vlaar has had one of those games he has every now and again. It's why he's never played for one of the top clubs. Sherwood needs to resist the temptation to throw the baby out with the bath water though, as we've played well until this game.
I'd love to hear his ht team talk.
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Tactics Tim?
Bollocks. Rubbish Ron and Joker Jores more like.
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If we score early in the 2nd half we only need 3 and we can score 3 goals tbh, not over yet.
Glass half full man?
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and Bloody awful Bacuna and Horrendous Hutton.
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Tactics Tim?
Bollocks. Rubbish Ron and Joker Jores more like.
I meant to quote someone that was criticising our high defensive line. Shades of Bolton at VP back in the MON days?
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What's that sound? The bubble bursting, now we need our wonderful friends at Spurs to return the favour for us smashing the Gooners in the final PLEEEEZE!!!!.....
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The highest line I've ever seen and the slowest back four i've ever seen equals an absolute roggering.
Unless Sherwood brings on Lowton for Hutton (it was a mistake to play him there), Senderos for Vlaar and anyone else frankly for Grealish.
There will be more.
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Time to go on Youtube and find Chas and Dave's Hot Shot Tottenham to blast out.
Not something I ever thought I would find myself thinking. I hope Tim is texting a few of his old players.
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and Bloody awful Bacuna and Horrendous Hutton.
Richardson injured?
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What's that sound? The bubble bursting, now we need our wonderful friends at Spurs to return the favour for us smashing the Gooners in the final PLEEEEZE!!!!.....
I would say they're on the beach. But then I thought the same about saints.
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Vlaar has been a fucking liability more often than not throughout his Villa career, I wouldn't miss his comedy impersonation of 'concrete' fucking porridge more like.
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Vlaar has had one of those games he has every now and again. It's why he's never played for one of the top clubs. Sherwood needs to resist the temptation to throw the baby out with the bath water though, as we've played well until this game.
Agree. Nobody saw this coming. I'd love to know what Sherwood said to them at HT and what he'll say in his post match press conference. I imagine it won't be how excellent we were.
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Tactics Tim?
Bollocks. Rubbish Ron and Joker Jores more like.
They've been awful, but sherwood seems to be unable to make any sort of change that might halt this.
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Tactics Tim?
Bollocks. Rubbish Ron and Joker Jores more like.
Absolutely. It's not anyone's tactics to tell defenders to get bullied and shat on.
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The players aren't working hard enough, they're not pressing, they're ball-watching, standing on their heels, and making all kinds of individual mistakes. Not sure how much of that is Sherwood's fault.
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What a fucking dreadful delivery.
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Given is having a shocker.
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Some lazy crossing
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Tactics Tim?
Bollocks. Rubbish Ron and Joker Jores more like.
Absolutely. It's not anyone's tactics to tell defenders to get bullied and shat on.
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Given has looked terrible this half.
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Makes you wonder how much we're missing Tony Parks.
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Gabby on for the Zog
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Terrible free kick there.
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We really need to drag this back a bit.
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Fuck sake we need Guzan back in goal and back in form. Given doesn't have it in him to be a Premier League keeper - he can't handle crosses and the rest of his game isn't good enough to mask that any more.
Vlaar shouldn't get another contract, even if he can be good, his shit displays along with his injury record surely mean he'll leave. When all fit I think we'll be OK at centre back but we desperately need some full backs this summer.
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Tell you what this performance might make Cleverley and Benteke's mind up.
Very true. Watching Cleverly, it looks like he's already decided. Delph has been just as bad and then we have our defence.
Rubbish. The way TC has played the last few games he wants to stay
Well he's been utter shite so far today.
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Fucking hell Given man. Don't need jittery goal kicks.
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Hutton fu.ck off
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Tactics Tim?
Bollocks. Rubbish Ron and Joker Jores more like.
Absolutely. It's not anyone's tactics to tell defenders to get bullied and shat on.
It's so lazy when the team completely shits the bed to blame it on the manager. And I mean that about any manager. Sherwood didn't send Vlaar and Okore out to do what they have done today. It's all on them.
I'm looking for a silver lining here and the only one I can come up with is that I hope this fucking makes them realize that to achieve what we have the past few weeks takes a lot of effort. Today is horrific because the team thought it was done and we were safe. And it might still turn out that way but not how it should have come together.
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Bacuna has been absolutely fucking atrocious.
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I'm sorry but ive no confidence at all in given
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Given looks absolutely shocking at the moment.
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Its just a bad day at the office. If we were winning everyone would be saying we're going to win the league. Some perspective needed.
The beer is helping.
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Totally forgot it was an early kick off. Only tuned in as the goals were being re shown at half time. My mouth is still open with horror. He has got to recall Guzan and give Ron the bollocking from hell. What a shock this match is proving to be.
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I'm sorry but ive no confidence at all in given
Guzan hasnt been great and his mistake at Man city was awful, but these things happen.
Given is now too old.
Does Sherwood have the balls to change it back to Guzan.
I realise is isnt down to Shay today but he hasnt filled with me with confidence since he came back
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Went to the dentist this morning. Much less painful.
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Given is having a horror show second half here, sad to see. Vlaar is a gutless player, we will be well rid of him in the summer. Okore isn't good enough to be first choice next season either. Scholes was scathing of our defensive line in the first half but Lowton and Senderos are probably slower than what we have on. Pacy physically strong right sided centre half is a must in the summer and another try at a decent left back obviously
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Not much of an improvement second half.
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They all look shell shocked. I don't blame them because they were so confident going into this. I hope that as shit as it has been they are able to shake it off, win next week and go to the cup final with the same belief that they have built up in the last couple of months.
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Koeman looks as if he is enjoying his vittles down in Hampshire.
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And as much as today is what it is, we shouldn't make sweeping statements about certain players based on just today. Today is just a really, really bad day at the office.
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We've had so much possession in this half which is always good. They've done well so far not to utterly collapse. Long way to go obviously.
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Grealish has won about 50 freekicks for us.
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Hutton has been shocking
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That Steve Davis who just went off for them, did he not play for us once?!
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The whole team had a shocker, we seem to have reverted to punting it into the box in the hope that Benteke can get on the end of it.
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R5 making a big thing of Bacunas and Charlie's reaction to being subbed. Any views ?
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R5 making a big thing of Bacunas and Charlie's reaction to being subbed. Any views ?
They looked fucked off as they should be with themselves.
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Hutton has been shocking
I agree, Lowton did well at Left back earlier on so I have no idea why he went with Hutton who looked totally out of position.
Bad day for me, played slightly too high a line and Mane took the game away in a couple of minutes, think we looked shell-shocked after that.
I agree with the people saying that they're not confident in Given, I agree completely, good shot stopper but he's got no command of his box.
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Didn't see N'Zogbia's reaction but bacuna basically ignored Parks who went to shake his hand.
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I wish Gabby would get central alongside Benteke. Hutton has been garbage. Every time I see him playing I just think of the crap Lambert tactic of giving him the ball and expecting him to create. A bad day today, but we started ok....and then collapsed.
I expect more from our so called 'leaders'. Vlaar, Delph and to some extent Benteke, have not performed.
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When was the last time Sinclair got minutes on the pitch ?
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I was thinking about shelling out £500 for a Cup final ticket before today. Think I might use it to go on holiday instead now...
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Not sure how we've managed to play such a high line and Benteke has been so isolated.
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Okore giving him an assist there nearly
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I just hope Tim chooses his words carefully when he speaks to the media after. Last thing we want is for the fall out of this result to linger
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Sounds like a good game....
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I was thinking about shelling out £500 for a Cup final ticket before today. Think I might use it to go on holiday instead now...
Oh ye of little faith.
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More woeful defending.
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I was thinking about shelling out £500 for a Cup final ticket before today. Think I might use it to go on holiday instead now...
Dont let one match put you off. Be a different game and hopefully outcome in two weeks time
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When was the last time Sinclair got minutes on the pitch ?
I know he has scored a few valuable goals I still don't think he has been that great.
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When was the last time Sinclair got minutes on the pitch ?
Good point that, I mean he was scoring goals and looking dangerous and hasn't figured since when N'Zog has been his usual average self. Strange.
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When was the last time Sinclair got minutes on the pitch ?
Good point that, I mean he was scoring goals and looking dangerous and hasn't figured since when N'Zog has been his usual average self. Strange.
Misses a few sitters too
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I just hope Tim chooses his words carefully when he speaks to the media after. Last thing we want is for the fall out of this result to linger
Yep, it will be very interesting to see if or how he has matured since his meltdown at Spurs. He's no doubt going to be honest and blunt but you can do that without turnin players against you. This is a big test for him and he won't want to undo so much of the good work they have all done together.
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One positive is that the back four can't play as pathetically as individuals or a team again.
Surely they can't.
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I just hope Tim chooses his words carefully when he speaks to the media after. Last thing we want is for the fall out of this result to linger
Given the way he threw his Spurs players under a bus last season, I cant see it.
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Six
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Fucking twats.
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What a goal from them. 6-1.
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So, so easy.
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Groan.
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Looks like we were the side on holiday today. embarrassing at the back. truly woeful.
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We have our villa back.
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One positive is that the back four can't play as pathetically as individuals or a team again.
Surely they can't.
Well fuck me 6-1
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Where is the fuckin defence!
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Jeez, bin this one as a shite day and now got it out of the way.
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So we have a free kick on the half way line and 30 seconds later it's in our own net. Simply woeful
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Cleverley gives the ball away under no pressure whatsoever and they score from it. Just dreadful.
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Didn't think wed win today but never in a million years expected this
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Is that Lowton at left back. He wants putting down for that dismal defending. Same for Okore. Absolutely atrocious.
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Careful. We'll be getting the After Eight gags again.
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Matt Lowton is not a top division player... Realise this has been mentioned numerous times over the last couple of years but he needs to go back at least one division
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On their day Southampton will give anyone a game. Unfortunately we have met them on their day. They have better players than us . Simple as.
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Sherwood will get hamered for this but fucking both CB's completely asleep for that goal , individually and as a unit the defence have been shocking all game
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Koeman take Vlaar home with you.
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Have always regarded 7 as the figure that makes you look pathetic rather than just shit.
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If hull win today, I think I am going to spend the entirety of next week shitting bricks
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Okore has produced the worst defensive performance I've seen at Villa
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Is that Lowton at left back. He wants putting down for that dismal defending. Same for Okore. Absolutely atrocious.
Whoever it was that should have been on Pelle too.
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Southampton are years in front us of us
One day the glory says will be back
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Woeful, Villa. Hang your heads, lads. Okore, very very poor today. Get a fucking grip, lad.
A lot of rage bubbling up, but must just accept it as quite normal for Villa over the last 5 years or so.
We've been bullied by Southampton.
I wish Michael Owen would fuck off to America with those pair of degenerates, Gerrard and Lampard
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Makes you wonder how much we're missing Tony Parks.
Ignore me. Just seen him on the bench!
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Have always regarded 7 as the figure that makes you look pathetic rather than just shit.
Yes, agree, seven is the point it which it becomes a game that gets remembered for a long time.
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If hull win today, I think I am going to spend the entirety of next week shitting bricks
I feel that too. Then I can see Burnley scoring after two minutes. Sorry. Must think positive.
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I don't want no one sending me any pics of seven up cans today. Hold on villa
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i thought gabby had come on as a sub - where is he hiding cos I haven't seen him since he came on!!
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If hull win today, I think I am going to spend the entirety of next week shitting bricks
I feel that too. Then I can see Burnley scoring after two minutes. Sorry. Must think positive.
If Hull lose we're safe, right?
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If hull win today, I think I am going to spend the entirety of next week shitting bricks
I feel that too. Then I can see Burnley scoring after two minutes. Sorry. Must think positive.
If Hull lose we're safe, right?
Yup.
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i thought gabby had come on as a sub - where is he hiding cos I haven't seen him since he came on!!
No change there
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Yep very nervous
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If hull win today, I think I am going to spend the entirety of next week shitting bricks
I feel that too. Then I can see Burnley scoring after two minutes. Sorry. Must think positive.
If Hull lose we're safe, right?
Hull need to win to make it shit next week
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We desperately need Tottenham to win today as I don't fancy that defence next week. The pressure was there today - win and you're safe and we have been garbage. We haven't responded well and rather than galvanise the team the first goal served to just turn us into a mess. For next week Guzan goes in and is anywhere near fit Okore dropped for baker. As bad as Vlaar has been stick him on the right side and hopefully Richardson back for balance. Grealish really hasn't played well so needs a rest and can only get one of Hull lose.
Fucking hell Villa.
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i thought gabby had come on as a sub - where is he hiding cos I haven't seen him since he came on!!
No change there
Obviously thinks his Wembley place is secure!
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Sigh. Fuck sake.
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Vlaar, Given, Okore have been incomprehensibly wank. And to think Vlaar may do us the priveledge of reconsidering leaving us. Honestly pal, go see how long you stay in the first team at the next level. Don't make me laugh
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Got to put that in
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This is also really going to give a lift to those around us too. Will also go for a Leicester win so Sunderland need points fro Arsenal and Chelsea.
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fucking hell westwood
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Amazing how many men Southampton have behind the ball and yet they could have scored 10. Classic counter attacking performance. There back four are practically on the goal line, very hard to break down.
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Fastest ever prem hat trick. Of course it had to be against us
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Gabby, ffs. He has looked miles off pace since coming back from injury as has Hutton
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Sunday morning shot from Westwood
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We desperately need Tottenham to win today as I don't fancy that defence next week...
...Fucking hell Villa.
Another great post peter w.
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Gabby ffs.
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We desperately need Tottenham to win today as I don't fancy that defence next week. The pressure was there today - win and you're safe and we have been garbage. We haven't responded well and rather than galvanise the team the first goal served to just turn us into a mess. For next week Guzan goes in and is anywhere near fit Okore dropped for baker. As bad as Vlaar has been stick him on the right side and hopefully Richardson back for balance. Grealish really hasn't played well so needs a rest and can only get one of Hull lose.
Fucking hell Villa.
Grealish hasn't played well? Well he can't play by himself, he won about a million free kicks and barely gave the ball away. Clearly one of our better players today (not saying a lot)
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If hull win today, I think I am going to spend the entirety of next week shitting bricks
I feel that too. Then I can see Burnley scoring after two minutes. Sorry. Must think positive.
If Hull lose we're safe, right?
Hull need to win to make it shit next week
Only a draw needed today to make that happen
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Well we've set s negative record without Lambert's help.
Mané's hat-trick is the quickest ever. 2 minutes 45 seconds according to the commentators
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We desperately need Tottenham to win today as I don't fancy that defence next week. The pressure was there today - win and you're safe and we have been garbage. We haven't responded well and rather than galvanise the team the first goal served to just turn us into a mess. For next week Guzan goes in and is anywhere near fit Okore dropped for baker. As bad as Vlaar has been stick him on the right side and hopefully Richardson back for balance. Grealish really hasn't played well so needs a rest and can only get one of Hull lose.
Fucking hell Villa.
Grealish hasn't played well? Well he can't play by himself, he won about a million free kicks and barely gave the ball away. Clearly one of our better players today (not saying a lot)
Agree
The defence fu.ucked us
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Why did I wake up early from a night shift to watch that shite.
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Well decision number 1 has been easy. No MOTD for me tonight. The second is a tad harder. Do I drink copious amounts of rioja tonight or copious amounts of malbec ?
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Well that was a lot of horribleness....
Over to you Kane and co.
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Well decision number 1 has been easy. No MOTD for me tonight. The second is a tad harder. Do I drink copious amounts of rioja tonight or copious amounts of malbec ?
This
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I'm also so gutted that Okore has turned out to be a bag of spanners. I thought he would be the one for us, he needs to fucking go back to wherever he came from, he is completely useless
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Seems a good time to ask if anyone has a cup final ticket to spare please.
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We lost. So what?
We go again!
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Didn't see N'Zogbia's reaction but bacuna basically ignored Parks who went to shake his hand.
Boo hoo he was fcukin shit.
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Fastest ever prem hat trick. Of course it had to be against us
And it'll probably last forever too.
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Don't lay it all at the players feet we were set up badly from the start,the defence played to high up and too square against what is a very good side.
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I've had a good run of match threads. It was always going to end in tears.
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Don't lay it all at the players feet we were set up badly from the start,the defence played to high up and too square against what is a very good side.
Yes but a side that had lost two straight. They aren't that good but we made them look way better than they are today.
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Time for Sir Graham "You got yourselves into this mess so you...."
Not crew though, so it would not have worked.