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Title: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: gervilla on May 10, 2015, 07:46:27 PM: My one trip over to Villa Park a season falls on May 24th for the last league game. Hopefully we will be safe by 3pm next Saturday so..... with the Cup final in mind would it be madness for Tim to risk injuries and play a full strength team v Burnley. I doubt we can get away with fielding the reserves so how much of a weakened starting 11 would we get away with ?
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: KRS on May 10, 2015, 07:49:37 PM: We don't want to be going into the final on the back of a loss against Burnley, so start with our best X1, get at them, secure the result then bring off Jack, Benteke and Delph...and pray no one else gets injured.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: silhillvilla on May 10, 2015, 07:53:07 PM: Nice dilemma to have . Assuming we are safe I'd go.

----------- Guzan -------------

Hutton. Senderos Okore . Cissoko

Sanchez. Cole.

Gil -------------------------- Weimann

Sinclair ------------------ Gabby (c)
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: KRS on May 10, 2015, 07:59:19 PM: I doubt we'd get a result against Burnley with that team. Its a fine balance between maintaining momentum and ensuring our best players are fit for the final. Like you say, it would be a nice dilemma to have but I have faith in TS to do what he thinks is best for the players.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: gervilla on May 10, 2015, 08:04:08 PM: Hopefully we will have that dilemma.Hutton, Gabby, Sanchez and Sinclair to start to get them up to speed . Cole, not so sure about. He'd be nackered by half time. Benteke is the big worry. If he picked up a knock it would be a disaster.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: dave.woodhall on May 10, 2015, 08:04:23 PM: Bugger momentum. I wouldn't let Benteke, Vlaar and Delph even look at the pitch against Burnley.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: silhillvilla on May 10, 2015, 08:06:49 PM: I remember playing a very under strength Ipswich at villa park in 78 (?), we tossed them aside 6-1.
A week later they won the FA cup 1-0 v arsenal. The "Osborne 1 nil" final
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: johnny from donny on May 10, 2015, 08:12:36 PM: Quote from: dave.woodhall on May 10, 2015, 08:04:23 PM
Bugger momentum. I wouldn't let Benteke, Vlaar and Delph even look at the pitch against Burnley.
Add Grealish Cleverley and Okore to the wrapped in cotton wool list as well for good measure
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 10, 2015, 08:13:45 PM: All depends if we're safe or not.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: Chipsticks on May 10, 2015, 08:14:34 PM: We won't necessarily be 100% safe for this game and I think Sherwood's the type to try and keep form going ahead of Wembley rather than resting key players. I'd go for the strongest team, but to sub Benteke, Vlaar, and Delph off after 60 minutes to protect them.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on May 10, 2015, 08:15:00 PM: Start with the best 11 and continue to grow in confidence would be how I'd want to see it.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: nigel on May 10, 2015, 08:15:46 PM: Burnley haven't struck me as a 'Kick lumps out the opposition' team, unlike WHU!!, so I don't think we need to fear that side of the game.
I would go with a strong team first half then make some changes on the hour.
I'd certainly rest Vlaar and Richardson. Having said that, Okore was carrying an injury vs WHU, so that might force Tims hand somewhat.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: gervilla on May 10, 2015, 08:15:49 PM: Quote from: PeterWithesShin on May 10, 2015, 08:13:45 PM
All depends if we're safe or not.
Indeed it does. If we are not then there is no question.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: silhillvilla on May 10, 2015, 08:17:28 PM: If anyone gets a red now do they run the risk of missing the final ? Or is there now an amnesty ?
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: Chipsticks on May 10, 2015, 08:18:32 PM: Quote from: nigel on May 10, 2015, 08:15:46 PM
I'd certainly rest Vlaar and Richardson. Having said that, Okore was carrying an injury vs WHU, so that might force Tims hand somewhat.

It'd certainly be a decent idea to give Senderos some playing time, in case (god forbid) he's forced on during the final. We saw how dodgy Okore was in his first 10 minutes after coming on, let alone the months out of action Senderos has had.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 10, 2015, 08:19:01 PM: If we are safe, i'd make a few changes, purely to give players a run that haven't played much recently. Sisko, Hutton, Sinclair, Gil as examples.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: johnny from donny on May 10, 2015, 08:27:38 PM: IF we're safe, I would be sorely tempted to give some of the youth team that have been training with the seniors a start. Lewis Kinsella and Henry Cowans for example would benefit from the experience.
Also, if we have some long-term absentees who might be able to make the bench for the final, (Kozak?) Maybe they can have a run out
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: ez on May 10, 2015, 08:34:22 PM: If we're safe i'd definitely rest Benteke, Grealish and Delph.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: silhillvilla on May 10, 2015, 08:43:06 PM: Quote from: johnny from donny on May 10, 2015, 08:27:38 PM
IF we're safe, I would be sorely tempted to give some of the youth team that have been training with the seniors a start. Lewis Kinsella and Henry Cowans for example would benefit from the experience.
Also, if we have some long-term absentees who might be able to make the bench for the final, (Kozak?) Maybe they can have a run out
Add to that Russian Hepburn - Murphy (RMH) , would be unfair after Sunderland to not give him another go as he must be buzzing .
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: Des Little on May 10, 2015, 08:46:01 PM: If we are safe, I wouldn't give a tinkers cuss who we put out.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: KRS on May 10, 2015, 08:46:33 PM: Another thing to remember is that if we rest too many of the starting XI against Burnley then it will have been 2 weeks since they last played together in a competitive match. Obviously they are professional footballers that play together every day in training, but maintaining that form and mentality as a group of players going into the final is equally as important as avoiding injuries. Not playing them against Burnley reduces the chances, but I'm equally concerned about stupid injuries that could happen in training...or tripping up a curb or something daft like that. TS needs to return Benteke to his cyber-charge unit for 2 weeks, shut down his circuits into sleep mode and have him restored to full power ready to destroy Arsenal come 30th May.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: ChicagoLion on May 10, 2015, 08:59:52 PM: Quote from: dave.woodhall on May 10, 2015, 08:04:23 PM
Bugger momentum. I wouldn't let Benteke, Vlaar and Delph even look at the pitch against Burnley.
That's how I see it and give Gabby Senderos Sanchez Hutton starts.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: supertom on May 10, 2015, 09:01:04 PM: 3 more games shouldn't be too much more to handle. I know we've had injuries and the sort of luck you normally have after smashing a room full of mirrors but Benteke looks fit as a fiddle right now and he's loving his football so I doubt he'd even appreciate being dropped. He'd love to go out and bully a downtrodden Burnley side. Bang in a hattrick to set him up nicely for Wembley.

I would rest Grealish and give Sinclair a start perhaps, just to keep him sharp as he can be a useful option and has goals in him. I'd also rest Vlaar for the final. Give Cissokho a game if he's ready. Other than that, probably same as.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: silhillvilla on May 10, 2015, 09:05:35 PM: Quite a few of them looked a bit jaded yesterday.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: passport1 on May 10, 2015, 09:10:42 PM: Were picking the starting 11 for the game after the next game???
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: supertom on May 10, 2015, 09:10:49 PM: Quote from: silhillvilla on May 10, 2015, 09:05:35 PM
Quite a few of them looked a bit jaded yesterday.
True. Particularly the half fit players. Ron looked like he was struggling to make the final whistle and Rico must be getting knackered too.

I do wonder whether Kozak will be fit in time for Burnley. Might be good to give him 20 minutes.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: silhillvilla on May 10, 2015, 09:13:12 PM: Delph looked like he was running on fumes. He's had a very long season when you factor in the internationals.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: danno on May 10, 2015, 09:15:40 PM: I've read that there is a £1.2 million difference in the prize money awarded per final league placing.

So the difference between 17th and 12th is £6 million.

I'll be very surprised if Sherwood makes wholesale changes.

http://www.totalsportek.com/football/premier-league-prize-money-table-2015/
(http://www.totalsportek.com/football/premier-league-prize-money-table-2015/)
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: Des Little on May 10, 2015, 09:25:40 PM: Quote from: silhillvilla on May 10, 2015, 09:05:35 PM
Quite a few of them looked a bit jaded yesterday.

You ought to have seen me after a few beers in town afterwards!
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: Toronto Villa on May 10, 2015, 09:35:09 PM: Quote from: dave.woodhall on May 10, 2015, 08:04:23 PM
Bugger momentum. I wouldn't let Benteke, Vlaar and Delph even look at the pitch against Burnley.

I'd be cautious about letting them do the lap of honour after the game.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: Lsvilla on May 10, 2015, 09:41:53 PM: Hasn't TS effectively indicated - or even said as much I think - that Callum Robinson will be involved - assuming we're safe - by recalling him before Preston's play off final ? I expect that to be one of several given a game to rest a few
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: Marlon's Hairy Wood on May 10, 2015, 09:48:59 PM: Assuming we're safe

------------------- Guzan

Lowton------Okore------Senderos------Cissokho

Bacuna-----Sanchez-------Cleveley-----Sinclair

---------------------Gil

------------------Agbonlahor

Subs -

Kozak (assuming available) and Weimann for Bacuna & Gabby with Gil dropping onto the wing on 60 mins.
Westwood for Cleverly around a similar time

Sherwood gets a chance to look Senders, Cissokho, Gil and Sinclair for next season, whilst seeing what Bacuna can do further forward.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: silhillvilla on May 10, 2015, 09:59:20 PM: Joe Cole probably deserves a start. Did score at their place in what seems a lifetime ago, lambert skulking off at the end crossing the pitch & ignoring us away fans
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 10, 2015, 10:02:37 PM: Considering the "we want Lambert out" chants there, it's hardly a surprise.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: olaftab on May 10, 2015, 10:05:00 PM: Quote from: Chipsticks on May 10, 2015, 08:14:34 PM
I'd go for the strongest team, but to sub Benteke, Vlaar, and Delph off after 60 minutes to protect them.
Well said that man. Start with the strongest. It's not going to be a ultra competitive match and then sub at HT. Need to keep our best players sharp and match fit.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: silhillvilla on May 10, 2015, 10:05:36 PM: Quote from: PeterWithesShin on May 10, 2015, 10:02:37 PM
Considering the "we want Lambert out" chants there, it's hardly a surprise.
Well yeah but that aside he could have at least given us a Glaswegian wave
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: olaftab on May 10, 2015, 10:08:30 PM: Quote from: Toronto Villa on May 10, 2015, 09:35:09 PM
Quote from: dave.woodhall on May 10, 2015, 08:04:23 PM
Bugger momentum. I wouldn't let Benteke, Vlaar and Delph even look at the pitch against Burnley.

I'd be cautious about letting them do the lap of honour after the game.
There is no need for that as there will be a proper lap of honour on 30 May.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: DeKuip on May 10, 2015, 10:16:11 PM: You lot seem to be prioritising winning the FA Cup over finishing above the Albion!
Don't you realise the pride that comes with being the highest placed club with a Birmingham postcode?
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: maidstonevillain on May 10, 2015, 10:28:25 PM: Quote from: danno on May 10, 2015, 09:15:40 PM
I've read that there is a £1.2 million difference in the prize money awarded per final league placing.

So the difference between 17th and 12th is £6 million.

I'll be very surprised if Sherwood makes wholesale changes.

http://www.totalsportek.com/football/premier-league-prize-money-table-2015/
(http://www.totalsportek.com/football/premier-league-prize-money-table-2015/)

That's might be his bonus. "Any additional prize money above 18th is yours". That's why he is after two more wins.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: in exile on May 11, 2015, 01:16:21 PM: Cissokho hasn't been near the bench yet, but some are starting him against Burnley
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: montague on May 11, 2015, 01:19:28 PM: Quote from: nigel on May 10, 2015, 08:15:46 PM
Burnley haven't struck me as a 'Kick lumps out the opposition' team

Have you not seen Ashley Barnes?
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: UK Redsox on May 11, 2015, 02:13:46 PM: Quote from: Toronto Villa on May 10, 2015, 09:35:09 PM
Quote from: dave.woodhall on May 10, 2015, 08:04:23 PM
Bugger momentum. I wouldn't let Benteke, Vlaar and Delph even look at the pitch against Burnley.

I'd be cautious about letting them do the lap of honour after the game.

Given the way that this season has gone, I think that just half a lap of honour would be more appropriate anyway
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: Marlon's Hairy Wood on May 11, 2015, 03:23:20 PM: Quote from: in exile on May 11, 2015, 01:16:21 PM
Cissokho hasn't been near the bench yet, but some are starting him against Burnley

Does sitting on it not count as near? he was on the bench against city.

If Sherwood's going to judge him, there's no better place than on the pitch. Why risk the first team with a final coming up?

Some of the boys were lookling leggy against West Ham, the rest will help and they're not going to forget how to play with each other if they have a sat off
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: peter w on May 11, 2015, 04:24:16 PM: Quote from: silhillvilla on May 10, 2015, 07:53:07 PM
Nice dilemma to have . Assuming we are safe I'd go.

----------- Guzan -------------

Hutton. Senderos Okore . Cissoko

Sanchez. Cole.

Gil -------------------------- Weimann

Sinclair ------------------ Gabby (c)

*shudders*

That's a Paul Lambert team if I ever saw one...
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: not3bad on May 11, 2015, 04:31:31 PM: Would be good if Kozak was fit enough to play a part.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: Goldie.7 on May 11, 2015, 07:14:17 PM: if we're already safe playing the likes of Given, Benteke, Vlaar, Delph, Cleverley, Grealish, Okore, Bacuna and even Richardson against a relegated side with nothing to lose that know we are in a cup final 6 days later is not a good idea.

If we don't need to play them then it's a very simple decision for me.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: Matt Collins on May 11, 2015, 10:34:34 PM: There are some carrying injuries I think. Definitely okore, and I suspect delph and Benteke.

If we are safe I'd definitely rest a fair few. Maybe something like

Guzan - Hutton senderos Sanchez cissokho - cleverley Westwood - nzogbia Weimann Sinclair - gabby

That's a poor side but I won't care if we're safe
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: tomd2103 on May 11, 2015, 10:48:56 PM: Players who could probably do with a run out:

Guzan, Hutton, Senderos, Cissokho, Sanchez, Cole, Sinclair, Agbonlahor.

Would be nice to see Kozak feature at some point as well.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: silhillvilla on May 11, 2015, 10:50:11 PM: Will Gardner, Robinson and Bent be back and available for selection ?
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: peter w on May 12, 2015, 04:07:43 AM: Will Gardner? Is that the younger brother?
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: Chris Jameson on May 12, 2015, 12:03:22 PM: Quote from: peter w on May 12, 2015, 04:07:43 AM
Will Gardner? Is that the younger brother?

He's a massive Villa/Albion/Blues/Wolves/Walsall fan.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: edgysatsuma89 on May 12, 2015, 02:33:02 PM: Quote from: silhillvilla on May 11, 2015, 10:50:11 PM
Will Gardner, Robinson and Bent be back and available for selection ?

I don't believe they are allowed to play for us now this season. Pretty sure that's what I read about Bent. Presume that's why he's on holiday.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: PaulWinch again on May 12, 2015, 02:35:38 PM: If we're safe then I'd rest a couple of key players.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: Chris Jameson on May 12, 2015, 03:07:26 PM: I'd give young Jack a rest to avoid any chance of Ashley Barnes putting him out of the final.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: villa for life on May 16, 2015, 05:38:59 PM: Bloody stupid thread that almost had us down... The players were clearly thinking like the poster
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: SoccerHQ on May 16, 2015, 05:40:50 PM: Guzan

Hutton
Senderos
Okore
Cissokho

Sanchez
Cole
Delph

Gil
Gabby
Sinclair
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: OCD on May 16, 2015, 05:49:24 PM: I would probably start with a fairly strong side and then look to rest key players as the game goes on. Players can lose some form when they miss a match and I think today needs to be put behind us.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: dave.woodhall on May 16, 2015, 05:50:53 PM: Nasty little niggles Benteke, Cleverley, Grealish and Delph picked up in training this Thursday. Bound to keep them out for three days or so.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: Tokyo Sexwhale on May 16, 2015, 05:52:30 PM: I'd rest our key players, and Okore who is carrying an injury:

Guzan; Hutton, Vlaar, Senderos, Cissokho; Sanchez, Westwood, Richardson; Gil, Sinclair; Agbonlahor.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: martin o`who?? on May 16, 2015, 05:56:25 PM: Rest Benteke, Delph, and Grealish, the first two in particular are just too vital to risk a silly injury.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: Ron Manager on May 16, 2015, 06:40:13 PM: I wonder if Carles will get a game and more importantly Brad Guzan. Possibly a call up for Callum Robinson?
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: peter w on May 16, 2015, 06:52:29 PM: Guzan

Bacuna
Vlaar
Senderos/Baker
Richardson (if fit - otherwise Lowton)

Westwood
Sanchez
Cleverley
NZogbia
Sinclair/Cole

Gabby
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 16, 2015, 06:56:01 PM: I'd start Gil. And I don't think you can plan on starting players and then taking them off after an hour or so, injuries to to other players can mean your subs are used early, and even if they play an hour that's an hour to get crocked. I'd definitely rest Delph, Grealish and Benteke.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: sc00by555 on May 16, 2015, 06:57:32 PM: Guzan

Lowton | Vlaar | Baker | Cissokho

Sanchez

Bacuna | Gil | Richardson

Agbonlahor | Sinclair
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: AVH87 on May 16, 2015, 09:00:30 PM: I'd start Gil, and rest Grealish, Delph and CB as others have said.

Give Sinclair a start too, need to decide if we are going to sign him this summer.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: junxs on May 16, 2015, 10:11:00 PM: It's a bit of a catch 22, If we had won today I would have said rest the entire xi and bring them back for the final to not risk injuries and suspensions.

But now I think they should all play against bottom of the table Burnley in a bid to get their confidence back before our biggest game this century.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: OCD on May 16, 2015, 10:49:05 PM: Quote from: PeterWithesShin on May 16, 2015, 06:56:01 PM
I'd start Gil. And I don't think you can plan on starting players and then taking them off after an hour or so, injuries to to other players can mean your subs are used early, and even if they play an hour that's an hour to get crocked. I'd definitely rest Delph, Grealish and Benteke.

Resting those 3 is fair enough. I don't think it would be a good idea to change the whole side.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on May 17, 2015, 01:14:43 AM: I would be tempted to fully rotate and play everyone who has not been playing. Make it clear there are some spots up for grabs in the cup final. Someone else mentioned the team looks just tired and fatigued after so many high tempo games with huge emotion and pressure attached, maybe just time for a breather.

Still I am not Sherwood and I have faith in his judgement around these matters.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: OzVilla on May 17, 2015, 03:04:58 AM: I'd certainly be resting Benteke, Delph and Grealish. Maybe give Vlaar a breather too after yesterday's horror show.

That's the spine of our team and our most important team members for the way we play rested for the Cup Final. Gil, Shanchez, Gabby and Senderos to come in. Can't make my mind up about Given/Guzan so I'll probably stick with Given.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: MattW on May 17, 2015, 03:53:00 AM: Rest Grealish, Benteke, Delph, Cleverley, Okore. Start Guzan, Gil, Sinclair, Sanchez, Senderos who would all be playing for a chance to play in the FA Cup final.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: TonyD on May 17, 2015, 08:39:41 AM: No point in risking any sort of injury. Play the kids.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: Risso on May 17, 2015, 10:31:33 AM: The selection for Burnley is a genuine dilemma now after the events of yesterday. We could do with giving the recognised first team the ability to get the dire result yesterday out of their systems, but then we don't want to risk injuries or suspensions to anybody, especially Benteke, Cleverley and Delph.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: Pete3206 on May 17, 2015, 10:52:37 AM: I would give Carles Gil the stage next week. I'm convinced he could be a big player for us.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: tomd2103 on May 17, 2015, 10:57:43 AM: Quote from: sc00by555 on May 16, 2015, 06:57:32 PM
Guzan

Lowton | Vlaar | Baker | Cissokho

Sanchez

Bacuna | Gil | Richardson

Agbonlahor | Sinclair

That's not far off what I would go with, but I would replace Lowton and Vlaar with Hutton and Senderos.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: Clampy on May 17, 2015, 11:20:16 AM: There's a temptation to give a lot of players a rest but I wouldn't change it too much.

Given

Lowton Okore Senderos Sissohko

Sanchez

Cleverley Westwood

N'Zogbia Gabby Sinclair
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: nigel on May 17, 2015, 11:22:57 AM: With Burnley gone we can afford to rest players and not be accused fielding a weakened side to the detriment of other teams.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: warleyboy on May 17, 2015, 11:25:23 AM: I would definitely ensure that keeper and defence are the proposed cup final starting line,
Everyone else should be rested, very leggy yesterday, I'd give gabby half the game also.

Brad needs to be brought back for the next two games..Given showed his age a little yesterday.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: OzVilla on May 17, 2015, 11:26:03 AM: Quote from: Clampy on May 17, 2015, 11:20:16 AM
There's a temptation to give a lot of players a rest but I wouldn't change it too much.

Given

Lowton Okore Senderos Sissohko

Sanchez

Cleverley Westwood

N'Zogbia Gabby Sinclair

Just the 6 then. ;)
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: Clampy on May 17, 2015, 11:38:06 AM: Quote from: OzVilla on May 17, 2015, 11:26:03 AM
Quote from: Clampy on May 17, 2015, 11:20:16 AM
There's a temptation to give a lot of players a rest but I wouldn't change it too much.

Given

Lowton Okore Senderos Sissohko

Sanchez

Cleverley Westwood

N'Zogbia Gabby Sinclair

Just the 6 then. ;)

Haha. I kind of meant I wouldn't thrown in too many kids like some people have suggested and keep a solid look. Actually, leaving Okore out as well might be an idea if he's injured.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: Jockey Randall on May 17, 2015, 12:40:35 PM: Anyone know what's going on with Cissokho? I can't imagine Hutton would have been selected ahead of him if he was fully fit?
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: SoccerHQ on May 17, 2015, 12:51:25 PM: Sherwood dosen't rate Cissokho, he wants full backs who can cross the haflway line and not fall over despite Aly being the best defensive full back at the club.

He'll be gone in the summer.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: N'ZMAV on May 17, 2015, 12:52:32 PM: I'd go with.

Bosnich

Charles
McGrath
Southgate
Ehiogu
Wright

Draper
Taylor
Townsend

Yorke
Milosevic
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: TonyD on May 17, 2015, 03:33:35 PM: Quote from: Pete3206 on May 17, 2015, 10:52:37 AM
I would give Carles Gil the stage next week. I'm convinced he could be a big player for us.

This. Him and Jack next season could rotate.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: Villafirst on May 17, 2015, 04:09:30 PM: Carles Gil should definitely start. Would like to see Gardner and Callum Robinson start also. Hope Sherwood is going to try and incorporate Gil next season. He's class.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: silhillvilla on May 17, 2015, 04:27:19 PM: Gil deserves a chance . He must have really fucked up in training so far is all I can think ?
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 17, 2015, 04:35:53 PM: Gardner can't start. Surprised no one has mentioned that before..........
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: Matt Collins on May 17, 2015, 04:54:14 PM: I'd completely forgotten about Gil

Guzan - Hutton vlaar baker lowton - Sanchez Westwood - Gil grealish Sinclair - gabby
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: CAitken on May 17, 2015, 05:13:29 PM: Guzan
Lowton, Senderos, Sissokho, Kinsella
Sinclair, Sanchez, Gil, Cole
Weiman, Robinson
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: silhillvilla on May 17, 2015, 05:27:19 PM: Quote from: CAitken on May 17, 2015, 05:13:29 PM
Guzan
Lowton, Senderos, Sissokho, Kinsella
Sinclair, Sanchez, Gil, Cole
Weiman, Robinson
That's a brave selection
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: tomd2103 on May 17, 2015, 06:04:22 PM: Quote from: silhillvilla on May 17, 2015, 05:27:19 PM
Quote from: CAitken on May 17, 2015, 05:13:29 PM
Guzan
Lowton, Senderos, Sissokho, Kinsella
Sinclair, Sanchez, Gil, Cole
Weiman, Robinson
That's a brave selection

I'm not sure TS will be that bold when it comes to the starting XI, but I think we might see a couple of youngsters coming on a subs.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: silhillvilla on May 17, 2015, 06:54:15 PM: Hepburn - Murphy I'd hope. He deserves another run after his Sunderland cameo.
Gil should be given some game time, if not it looks like a personal vendetta. I'd like to see Donacien and Kinsella play and Sanchez should play 90 mins.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: Matt Collins on May 17, 2015, 07:13:06 PM: Quote from: silhillvilla on May 17, 2015, 05:27:19 PM
Quote from: CAitken on May 17, 2015, 05:13:29 PM
Guzan
Lowton, Senderos, Sissokho, Kinsella
Sinclair, Sanchez, Gil, Cole
Weiman, Robinson
That's a brave selection

Yeah that team would definitely lose!
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: CAitken on May 17, 2015, 07:22:29 PM: Quote from: Matt Collins on May 17, 2015, 07:13:06 PM
Quote from: silhillvilla on May 17, 2015, 05:27:19 PM
Quote from: CAitken on May 17, 2015, 05:13:29 PM
Guzan
Lowton, Senderos, Sissokho, Kinsella
Sinclair, Sanchez, Gil, Cole
Weiman, Robinson
That's a brave selection

Yeah that team would definitely lose!
I didn't pick a team to win, it's a team that gives all of the Cup final 11 two weeks rest.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: silhillvilla on May 17, 2015, 07:33:00 PM: Quote from: CAitken on May 17, 2015, 07:22:29 PM
Quote from: Matt Collins on May 17, 2015, 07:13:06 PM
Quote from: silhillvilla on May 17, 2015, 05:27:19 PM
Quote from: CAitken on May 17, 2015, 05:13:29 PM
Guzan
Lowton, Senderos, Sissokho, Kinsella
Sinclair, Sanchez, Gil, Cole
Weiman, Robinson
That's a brave selection

Yeah that team would definitely lose!
I didn't pick a team to win, it's a team that gives all of the Cup final 11 two weeks rest.
Sherwood won't be so radical in front of the first villa park sell out in a decade ??
He will I imagine start with the FA Cup line up and then rest 3 players on the hour mark - Benteke , vlaar, Delph
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: OCD on May 17, 2015, 10:51:26 PM: Quote from: PeterWithesShin on May 17, 2015, 04:35:53 PM
Gardner can't start. Surprised no one has mentioned that before..........

It's almost as though people want us to field ineligible players and get a points deduction.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: dcdavecollett on May 18, 2015, 05:15:21 PM: ...and another massive FA fine, surely?!
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: usav on May 18, 2015, 05:24:12 PM: Quote from: PeterWithesShin on May 17, 2015, 04:35:53 PM
Gardner can't start. Surprised no one has mentioned that before..........
If we get a penalty, I hope they let Barry take it.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: ChicagoLion on May 18, 2015, 11:45:04 PM: Quote from: usav on May 18, 2015, 05:24:12 PM
Quote from: PeterWithesShin on May 17, 2015, 04:35:53 PM
Gardner can't start. Surprised no one has mentioned that before..........
If we get a penalty, I hope they let Barry take it.

And they say Americans have no sense of humour, Gfaw ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: postal on May 19, 2015, 08:45:10 AM: Quote from: silhillvilla on May 17, 2015, 06:54:15 PM
Hepburn - Murphy I'd hope. He deserves another run after his Sunderland cameo.
Gil should be given some game time, if not it looks like a personal vendetta. I'd like to see Donacien and Kinsella play and Sanchez should play 90 mins.

Certainly start with Gil - he cant be that bad in training and he surely deserves a game to remind us what he can do.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: Villa Lew on May 19, 2015, 11:03:22 AM: Good news Nathan Baker played 80 minutes last night for the U21s. Would definitely play Senderos and Baker as the CDs on Saturday.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: PaulWinch again on May 19, 2015, 11:25:08 AM: Quote from: CAitken on May 17, 2015, 07:22:29 PM
Quote from: Matt Collins on May 17, 2015, 07:13:06 PM
Quote from: silhillvilla on May 17, 2015, 05:27:19 PM
Quote from: CAitken on May 17, 2015, 05:13:29 PM
Guzan
Lowton, Senderos, Sissokho, Kinsella
Sinclair, Sanchez, Gil, Cole
Weiman, Robinson
That's a brave selection

Yeah that team would definitely lose!
I didn't pick a team to win, it's a team that gives all of the Cup final 11 two weeks rest.

I think you need to pick a balanced team, not just rest everyone. I'd consider resting Benteke, Vlaar, Okore, Grealish and Delph, but no more than that.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: Des Little on May 19, 2015, 01:21:04 PM: This game is utterly meaningless. Why risk a single player we plan to use in the final starting 11?
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: Oscar Arce on May 19, 2015, 01:28:54 PM: Quote from: PaulWinch again on May 19, 2015, 11:25:08 AM
Quote from: CAitken on May 17, 2015, 07:22:29 PM
Quote from: Matt Collins on May 17, 2015, 07:13:06 PM
Quote from: silhillvilla on May 17, 2015, 05:27:19 PM
Quote from: CAitken on May 17, 2015, 05:13:29 PM
Guzan
Lowton, Senderos, Sissokho, Kinsella
Sinclair, Sanchez, Gil, Cole
Weiman, Robinson
That's a brave selection

Yeah that team would definitely lose!
I didn't pick a team to win, it's a team that gives all of the Cup final 11 two weeks rest.

I think you need to pick a balanced team, not just rest everyone. I'd consider resting Benteke, Vlaar, Okore, Grealish and Delph, but no more than that.

Correct.
Full house at Villa Park, Okore and Benteke are carrying injuries.
My team:
Guzan
Bacuna Baker Senderos Richardson
Westwood
Delph Cleverly
NZogbia Sinclair
Agbohlahor
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: peter w on May 19, 2015, 01:30:05 PM: Because some players need to get last weekend out of their system and you need some continuity from one week to the next. Plus, you don't want to risk being beaten poorly again with too many changes. The amount of money from one place to the next means we should be going out to win the game. A few changes, yes, but not just for the sake of it.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: tomd2103 on May 19, 2015, 01:31:52 PM: Quote from: silhillvilla on May 17, 2015, 07:33:00 PM
Quote from: CAitken on May 17, 2015, 07:22:29 PM
Quote from: Matt Collins on May 17, 2015, 07:13:06 PM
Quote from: silhillvilla on May 17, 2015, 05:27:19 PM
Quote from: CAitken on May 17, 2015, 05:13:29 PM
Guzan
Lowton, Senderos, Sissokho, Kinsella
Sinclair, Sanchez, Gil, Cole
Weiman, Robinson
That's a brave selection

Yeah that team would definitely lose!
I didn't pick a team to win, it's a team that gives all of the Cup final 11 two weeks rest.
Sherwood won't be so radical in front of the first villa park sell out in a decade ??
He will I imagine start with the FA Cup line up and then rest 3 players on the hour mark - Benteke , vlaar, Delph

To be fair, I don't think at team of the following (midfield gaps excepted) is too radical:

Guzan

Hutton Senderos Baker Cissokho

Sanchez

?? ??

Gil

Agbonlahor Sinclair

I think whoever is going to be on the bench for the final has to have game time.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: Matt Collins on May 19, 2015, 01:34:31 PM: Those question marks are presumably Gardner and Barry?
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: Chris Jameson on May 19, 2015, 01:39:32 PM: I'd start with Howard Hodgson.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: PaulWinch again on May 19, 2015, 02:23:21 PM: Quote from: Des Little on May 19, 2015, 01:21:04 PM
This game is utterly meaningless. Why risk a single player we plan to use in the final starting 11?

I'd say we need to ensure we get some confidence back and keep up some match fitness. Getting beaten heavily probably wouldn't be great before the cup final regardless of the side we put out.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: KRS on May 19, 2015, 04:26:44 PM: Before the shambles at the weekend, I was coming around to the idea of resting most of the starting XI but they really need a competitive match playing together to flush that one out of the system and get some confidence back. It may be a meaningless game on paper but a 2 week break on the back of a heavy defeat can't be a good thing for most players walking onto the pitch at Wembley.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: Des Little on May 19, 2015, 05:03:46 PM: If we are going to win the cup we need to lose 3-1 like we did to Luton the week before the final in 57. With this in mind, play the reserves.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: montague on May 19, 2015, 05:16:05 PM: Will Villa Park ever see Benteke in a Villa shirt again?
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: Toronto Villa on May 20, 2015, 02:52:33 AM: Andre Green? Anyone seen him play.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: postal on May 20, 2015, 08:25:00 AM: If you are going to rest players ( and we need to), they should be replaced by players likely to make the Cup squad, not blooding in youth players ( though it might be just as late subs). Just my view.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave on May 20, 2015, 01:28:56 PM: As this was basically a pre-match thread anyway, it might as well officially be one.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on May 20, 2015, 01:31:34 PM: Quote from: Chris Jameson on May 19, 2015, 01:39:32 PM
I'd start with Howard Hodgson.

Howard Hodgson would start with Howard Hodgson.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: KRS on May 20, 2015, 01:37:56 PM: A resounding confidence building Villa win...4-0...actually Ings is bound to get a farewell goal so make that 4-1.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Jameson on May 20, 2015, 01:41:20 PM: Quote from: Clampy on May 20, 2015, 01:31:34 PM
Quote from: Chris Jameson on May 19, 2015, 01:39:32 PM
I'd start with Howard Hodgson.

Howard Hodgson would start with Howard Hodgson.

Howard Hodgson has prepared a report on Howard Hodgson and it is now on the desk of Howard Hodgson awaiting the approval of Howard Hodgson.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on May 20, 2015, 01:42:01 PM: Expecting a party atmosphere for this one, no pressure and the Cup Final to look forward to (or worry about instead).

Plus it's a team that we have no bad feelings towards as well.

Must be tempting to rest Delph and Benteke and maybe either play some youngsters, or at least have them on the bench.
Title: Re: Starting 11 V. Burnley
Post by: tomd2103 on May 20, 2015, 01:43:43 PM: Quote from: postal on May 20, 2015, 08:25:00 AM
If you are going to rest players ( and we need to), they should be replaced by players likely to make the Cup squad, not blooding in youth players ( though it might be just as late subs). Just my view.

There are a few who are likely to make the bench for the Cup Final that definitely need game time. Senderos, Sanchez, Gabby and Sinclair are likely to be on the bench at Wembley, so probably should all be starting on Saturday.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pooligan on May 20, 2015, 01:51:08 PM: I have just read the awful Mike Jones is the referee against Burnley.There is bound to be some bad decisions,thankfully the result is not vital.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on May 20, 2015, 02:01:55 PM: I agree with the balanced team approach. One or two players definitely need a run out as others have said such as Sanchez, Senderos and Baker. It never works out if you rest everyone though it seems a good idea in theory of course.

Think it will be a draw, ranging from a boring 0-0 as both teams' minds will be elsewhere to an entertaining 2-2, pretty much for the same reason!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave shelley on May 20, 2015, 04:12:42 PM: Message for Mr Woodhall. Will H&V hard copies be on sale pre-match on Sunday outside Villa Park?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: IAmTheOneIanOlney on May 20, 2015, 04:19:31 PM: Quote from: Chris Jameson on May 20, 2015, 01:41:20 PM
Quote from: Clampy on May 20, 2015, 01:31:34 PM
Quote from: Chris Jameson on May 19, 2015, 01:39:32 PM
I'd start with Howard Hodgson.

Howard Hodgson would start with Howard Hodgson.

Howard Hodgson has prepared a report on Howard Hodgson and it is now on the desk of Howard Hodgson awaiting the approval of Howard Hodgson.

It simply says "Howard Hodgson is a good-looking actor."
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Deano's Mullet on May 20, 2015, 04:21:52 PM: like to think we will win so we can finish as high as possible but at the same time don't want to risk anyone before the final. 1-1 draw
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 20, 2015, 06:43:32 PM: Quote from: dave shelley on May 20, 2015, 04:12:42 PM
Message for Mr Woodhall. Will H&V hard copies be on sale pre-match on Sunday outside Villa Park?

Yes. We'll be selling. Come and say hello.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave shelley on May 20, 2015, 08:03:06 PM: Quote from: PeterWithesShin on May 20, 2015, 06:43:32 PM
Quote from: dave shelley on May 20, 2015, 04:12:42 PM
Message for Mr Woodhall. Will H&V hard copies be on sale pre-match on Sunday outside Villa Park?

Yes. We'll be selling. Come and say hello.

I have every intentions of doing so. Where is your pitch? You can direct me to the others if you'd be good enough. Looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on May 20, 2015, 08:27:55 PM: Trinity Road. Being nervous.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on May 20, 2015, 09:05:37 PM: I love dead games like this. You can sit back and watch knowing you are safe. Hopefully we will see a lot of new faces and both teams turn on the style for what is effectively a training match. Looking forward to it!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on May 20, 2015, 11:10:46 PM: I hope this is like that game vs Sheff Utd a few seasons back. Champagne football at Villa Park. Beautiful day, European cup winners all over the gaff, star on the pitch, lovely passing, flowing football, and even a wonder goal by Patrik Berger!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: amfy on May 20, 2015, 11:28:42 PM: I hope Callum Robinson gets a run out because they've pulled him back from the play off final to have a look at him. It seems only fair that we do actually have a look at him!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: LukeJames on May 20, 2015, 11:33:02 PM: No stupid suspensions or injuries please... I'll go for 2-2 Sinclair, Gabby.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 20, 2015, 11:34:56 PM: Quote from: dave shelley on May 20, 2015, 08:03:06 PM
Quote from: PeterWithesShin on May 20, 2015, 06:43:32 PM
Quote from: dave shelley on May 20, 2015, 04:12:42 PM
Message for Mr Woodhall. Will H&V hard copies be on sale pre-match on Sunday outside Villa Park?

Yes. We'll be selling. Come and say hello.

I have every intentions of doing so. Where is your pitch? You can direct me to the others if you'd be good enough. Looking forward to it.

Usually on Witton Lane by the North Stand gates, but we do get played out of position occasionally.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on May 21, 2015, 12:28:22 AM: It's all about shits and giggles on Sunday.

1-0 to Villa
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on May 21, 2015, 12:29:16 AM: Quote from: Pete3206 on May 21, 2015, 12:28:22 AM
It's all about shits and giggles on Sunday.

1-0 to Villa

And potentially £3 million.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: peter w on May 21, 2015, 04:29:01 AM: You're think you're going to shift that much?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on May 21, 2015, 09:00:57 AM: Quote from: Toronto Villa on May 20, 2015, 11:10:46 PM
I hope this is like that game vs Sheff Utd a few seasons back. Champagne football at Villa Park. Beautiful day, European cup winners all over the gaff, star on the pitch, lovely passing, flowing football, and even a wonder goal by Patrik Berger!!

It all looked so promising then, that was a wonderful day out
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on May 21, 2015, 09:12:56 AM: Did I read somewhere it's free scarves for this game courtesy of RL
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Des Little on May 21, 2015, 09:19:32 AM: Quote from: silhillvilla on May 21, 2015, 09:12:56 AM
Did I read somewhere it's free scarves for this game courtesy of RL

Nope, that's the final
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on May 21, 2015, 10:39:51 AM: Quote from: amfy on May 20, 2015, 11:28:42 PM
I hope Callum Robinson gets a run out because they've pulled him back from the play off final to have a look at him. It seems only fair that we do actually have a look at him!

That seems a bit unfair (although all I know about it is what you said above) - pulling him back from Preston prior to the final, I mean.

Surely would have been nice for him to get the experience of playing there, not to mention Preston getting him till the end of the season proper, rather than for him to spend 90 minutes on the bench (which will probably be the case).
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on May 21, 2015, 11:45:27 AM: Seems a bit harsh on Preston to remove him at this critical stage.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: leylandalbion on May 21, 2015, 12:24:09 PM: conspirancy theory up here is that Sherwood is mates with the Swindon boss...
In all fairness though he only got a few minutes in the semi-final so provided he does play v Burnley I think its the right move
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: supertom on May 21, 2015, 12:43:49 PM: Quote from: silhillvilla on May 21, 2015, 11:45:27 AM
Seems a bit harsh on Preston to remove him at this critical stage.
Did I imagine it or did Robinson play an U-21 game the other day for us???

To be fair I could be imagining it.

EDIT-
He did.
http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~4726500,00.html (http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~4726500,00.html)
Whether he's elligable to play for us again this season is another matter.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: supertom on May 21, 2015, 12:50:33 PM: There was a story in the Birmingham Mail the other day, not sure anyone has mentioned it yet, but apparently Andre Green one of our academy lads is in contention for the Burnley squad. Described as a 17 year old, jet heeled Striker. Could be given a chance like young Rushian.

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-lowdown-rookie-teenager-9289529 (http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-lowdown-rookie-teenager-9289529)
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on May 21, 2015, 01:49:56 PM: Quote from: supertom on May 21, 2015, 12:50:33 PM
There was a story in the Birmingham Mail the other day, not sure anyone has mentioned it yet, but apparently Andre Green one of our academy lads is in contention for the Burnley squad. Described as a 17 year old, jet heeled Striker. Could be given a chance like young Rushian.

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-lowdown-rookie-teenager-9289529 (http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-lowdown-rookie-teenager-9289529)

Yep I mentioned his name a few pages back to see if anyone had heard of him or seen him play.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: IAmTheOneIanOlney on May 21, 2015, 02:12:02 PM: Hopefully a great game with lots of goals and no injuries or cards, all in front of a sun-drenched packed Villa Park.

On a slightly-Burnley related note, I saw Chris Nicholl on the Matt Le Tissier documentary the other night and he didn't look well. Has he been ill or is it just ageing?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Tom_Mc9? on May 21, 2015, 02:14:02 PM: 6-0 win.
Benteke (x2)
Cleverley
Delph
Vlaar
Richardson
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: supertom on May 21, 2015, 02:20:00 PM: Quote from: Toronto Villa on May 21, 2015, 01:49:56 PM
Quote from: supertom on May 21, 2015, 12:50:33 PM
There was a story in the Birmingham Mail the other day, not sure anyone has mentioned it yet, but apparently Andre Green one of our academy lads is in contention for the Burnley squad. Described as a 17 year old, jet heeled Striker. Could be given a chance like young Rushian.

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-lowdown-rookie-teenager-9289529 (http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-lowdown-rookie-teenager-9289529)

Yep I mentioned his name a few pages back to see if anyone had heard of him or seen him play.
Perhaps we'll all see him play on saturday. I wouldn't be adverse to giving him some game time (nor Kinsella, Calder etc). I'd be resting Benteke and also Gabby who's not 100% yet. As much as Gabby blows hot and cold, he's had some great games against Arsenal over the years so I would hope we get him as fresh as possible for the final.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on May 21, 2015, 04:07:56 PM: Gabby shows up for the big games. He'll play some roll if we go on to win the cup.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: john e on May 21, 2015, 04:56:23 PM: Quote from: Tom_Mc9 on May 21, 2015, 02:14:02 PM
6-0 win.
Benteke (x2)
Cleverley
Delph
Vlaar
Richardson

I'm hoping the first 3 names won't be playing
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on May 21, 2015, 05:46:02 PM: Quote from: Toronto Villa on May 21, 2015, 04:07:56 PM
Gabby shows up for the big games. He'll play some roll if we go on to win the cup.

A drum roll or a cheese roll?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on May 21, 2015, 07:36:01 PM: Quote from: supertom on May 21, 2015, 12:43:49 PM
Quote from: silhillvilla on May 21, 2015, 11:45:27 AM
Seems a bit harsh on Preston to remove him at this critical stage.
Did I imagine it or did Robinson play an U-21 game the other day for us???

To be fair I could be imagining it.

EDIT-
He did.
http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~4726500,00.html (http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~4726500,00.html)
Whether he's elligable to play for us again this season is another matter.

Is anyone else allowed to join that conversation or are you ok in the corner there? 😀
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on May 21, 2015, 10:09:12 PM: Quote from: Jon Crofts on May 21, 2015, 05:46:02 PM
Quote from: Toronto Villa on May 21, 2015, 04:07:56 PM
Gabby shows up for the big games. He'll play some roll if we go on to win the cup.

A drum roll or a cheese roll?

You're making me hungry. Sausage roll preferably from Greggs. Maybe a Corn Beef pastie too.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on May 21, 2015, 10:17:22 PM: 3-1 home win.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on May 22, 2015, 09:30:00 AM: Surely Robinson will play? It would be harsh to recall him so he can't make the Playoff Final otherwise.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: simon ward 50 on May 22, 2015, 10:35:01 AM: 6-1 to the Villa!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: postal on May 22, 2015, 11:13:09 AM: Quote from: simon ward 50 on May 22, 2015, 10:35:01 AM
6-1 to the Villa!

Still got issues at the back if we let one in ;)
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on May 22, 2015, 11:26:32 AM: Quote from: pooligan on May 20, 2015, 01:51:08 PM
I have just read the awful Mike Jones is the referee against Burnley.There is bound to be some bad decisions,thankfully the result is not vital.

Worse referee out there.he's an absolute joke
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: supertom on May 22, 2015, 01:12:18 PM: Quote from: Matt Collins on May 21, 2015, 07:36:01 PM
Quote from: supertom on May 21, 2015, 12:43:49 PM
Quote from: silhillvilla on May 21, 2015, 11:45:27 AM
Seems a bit harsh on Preston to remove him at this critical stage.
Did I imagine it or did Robinson play an U-21 game the other day for us???

To be fair I could be imagining it.

EDIT-
He did.
http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~4726500,00.html (http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~4726500,00.html)
Whether he's elligable to play for us again this season is another matter.

Is anyone else allowed to join that conversation or are you ok in the corner there? 😀
This is a private club for me, myself and I. Good day to you sir.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on May 22, 2015, 01:30:36 PM: Massive game, been absolutely bricking it all week. Lambert really cannot afford any slips up this time.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on May 22, 2015, 01:52:04 PM: I doubt burnley will be back in the PL anytime soon so this will be a fitting and special send off for them, a proper ground, with atmosphere and some compelling football for them to absorb bottle up and put on their mantelpieces.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: peter w on May 22, 2015, 02:33:23 PM: Quote from: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on May 22, 2015, 01:30:36 PM
Massive game, been absolutely bricking it all week. Lambert really cannot afford any slips up this time.

Do you think he'll risk Grealish? It was a good 20 minutes v Southampton and he's a good alternative to Sinclair but his lack of pace worries me for a winger. not sure whether its worth recalling Benteke (I know I know) but he's only scored 5 times this season. Shows that first season was a fluke. If we get £15m for him in the summer I'd bite anyone's hands off. Get rid of that idiot Cleverley too and give Cole a go. Fucking hell. To think, we'll probably do down and we allowed the Stevie G wankfest final to take place. No wonder why everyone hates us.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 22, 2015, 05:55:08 PM: Remember how many thought this would be a winner takes all decider? Now it's just a warm up for us to win the FA Cup.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Meanwood Villa on May 22, 2015, 06:25:05 PM: Quote from: peter w on May 22, 2015, 02:33:23 PM
Quote from: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on May 22, 2015, 01:30:36 PM
Massive game, been absolutely bricking it all week. Lambert really cannot afford any slips up this time.

Do you think he'll risk Grealish? It was a good 20 minutes v Southampton and he's a good alternative to Sinclair but his lack of pace worries me for a winger. not sure whether its worth recalling Benteke (I know I know) but he's only scored 5 times this season. Shows that first season was a fluke. If we get £15m for him in the summer I'd bite anyone's hands off. Get rid of that idiot Cleverley too and give Cole a go. Fucking hell. To think, we'll probably do down and we allowed the Stevie G wankfest final to take place. No wonder why everyone hates us.

I just hope we can hit the magical 20 goal mark.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VancouverLion on May 22, 2015, 06:25:42 PM: 4-0
Robinson, Sinclair, Cole, Gabby to score
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: OCD on May 22, 2015, 06:35:03 PM: We would have been dead and buried if Lambert had been kept on.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: peter w on May 22, 2015, 06:54:00 PM: Quote from: Meanwood Villa on May 22, 2015, 06:25:05 PM
Quote from: peter w on May 22, 2015, 02:33:23 PM
Quote from: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on May 22, 2015, 01:30:36 PM
Massive game, been absolutely bricking it all week. Lambert really cannot afford any slips up this time.

Do you think he'll risk Grealish? It was a good 20 minutes v Southampton and he's a good alternative to Sinclair but his lack of pace worries me for a winger. not sure whether its worth recalling Benteke (I know I know) but he's only scored 5 times this season. Shows that first season was a fluke. If we get £15m for him in the summer I'd bite anyone's hands off. Get rid of that idiot Cleverley too and give Cole a go. Fucking hell. To think, we'll probably do down and we allowed the Stevie G wankfest final to take place. No wonder why everyone hates us.

I just hope we can hit the magical 20 goal mark.

can you remember the last time we scored 4 in a game?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: clash city rocker on May 22, 2015, 09:42:07 PM: For the first time in a long time I am not particularly worried about the result.Obviously I would be happier if we won but as long as we play well and its an entertaining game I will come away happy.The months of struggle and worry have taken their toll so I am just going to soak up the atmosphere and enjoy the day. A lot of clubs supporters in the premiership probably take things like that for granted but us villa fans haven't been afforded that luxury for sometime.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on May 22, 2015, 09:46:01 PM: We must rest Benteke Delph & Vlaar.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Tony Erdington on May 22, 2015, 09:52:44 PM: Sorry but I wouldn't play Delph, Benteke or Cleverley. I want them in pristine condition for the FA Cup, if the players want to play against Burnley then so be it.

More importantly, give me the closest pub to the ground we can get into after the match without paying to get in.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 22, 2015, 09:53:31 PM: Sacred Heart?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: gervilla on May 22, 2015, 09:54:05 PM: Quote from: PeterWithesShin on May 22, 2015, 05:55:08 PM
Remember how many thought this would be a winner takes all decider? Now it's just a warm up for us to win the FA Cup.

Aye.
I was convinced we were dead and buried, as for reaching an F.A. Cup Final...don't make me laugh.
Sherwood has completely turned our world around.
Thanks Tim.x
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on May 22, 2015, 09:54:07 PM: Aston Hotel?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on May 22, 2015, 09:55:47 PM: Quote from: Legion on May 22, 2015, 09:54:07 PM
Aston Hotel?
Isn't that boarded up now
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Tony Erdington on May 22, 2015, 09:56:15 PM: Quote from: PeterWithesShin on May 22, 2015, 09:53:31 PM
Sacred Heart?

Cheers Peter, that would have been our first port of call, but ive been told they've put a membership card into practice??
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 22, 2015, 09:58:56 PM: I was there before the Everton game a few weeks ago and it wasn't then.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Tony Erdington on May 22, 2015, 10:02:35 PM: ok thank you Peter that's where we'll head first,

ATB

UTV
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: OCD on May 22, 2015, 11:25:24 PM: It sounds like players will only be rested if they're carrying a knock. Richardson hasn't trained all week so he won't play. Vlaar and Okore are carrying knocks so they could be rested, especially Okore. Baker played in the U21's the other day so he'll probably be back. After that it will probably be a strong side with changes coming from the bench later in the game to rest key players and give some a chance to shine.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave on May 22, 2015, 11:32:01 PM: Quote from: peter w on May 22, 2015, 06:54:00 PM
Quote from: Meanwood Villa on May 22, 2015, 06:25:05 PM
Quote from: peter w on May 22, 2015, 02:33:23 PM
Quote from: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on May 22, 2015, 01:30:36 PM
Massive game, been absolutely bricking it all week. Lambert really cannot afford any slips up this time.

Do you think he'll risk Grealish? It was a good 20 minutes v Southampton and he's a good alternative to Sinclair but his lack of pace worries me for a winger. not sure whether its worth recalling Benteke (I know I know) but he's only scored 5 times this season. Shows that first season was a fluke. If we get £15m for him in the summer I'd bite anyone's hands off. Get rid of that idiot Cleverley too and give Cole a go. Fucking hell. To think, we'll probably do down and we allowed the Stevie G wankfest final to take place. No wonder why everyone hates us.

I just hope we can hit the magical 20 goal mark.

can you remember the last time we scored 4 in a game?
Norwich 4-1 last season? The one with Benteke's overhead kick and Bacuna's four-passes-from-the-edge-of-our-box-until-the-ball-is-in-the-net breakaway goal.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: peter w on May 23, 2015, 08:03:37 AM: Quote from: Dave on May 22, 2015, 11:32:01 PM
Quote from: peter w on May 22, 2015, 06:54:00 PM
Quote from: Meanwood Villa on May 22, 2015, 06:25:05 PM
Quote from: peter w on May 22, 2015, 02:33:23 PM
Quote from: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on May 22, 2015, 01:30:36 PM
Massive game, been absolutely bricking it all week. Lambert really cannot afford any slips up this time.

Do you think he'll risk Grealish? It was a good 20 minutes v Southampton and he's a good alternative to Sinclair but his lack of pace worries me for a winger. not sure whether its worth recalling Benteke (I know I know) but he's only scored 5 times this season. Shows that first season was a fluke. If we get £15m for him in the summer I'd bite anyone's hands off. Get rid of that idiot Cleverley too and give Cole a go. Fucking hell. To think, we'll probably do down and we allowed the Stevie G wankfest final to take place. No wonder why everyone hates us.

I just hope we can hit the magical 20 goal mark.

can you remember the last time we scored 4 in a game?
Norwich 4-1 last season? The one with Benteke's overhead kick and Bacuna's four-passes-from-the-edge-of-our-box-until-the-ball-is-in-the-net breakaway goal.

Well yes, but not really where these posts were coming from...
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: McGraths Dry Cleaning on May 23, 2015, 09:42:49 AM: Quote from: gervilla on May 22, 2015, 09:54:05 PM
Quote from: PeterWithesShin on May 22, 2015, 05:55:08 PM
Remember how many thought this would be a winner takes all decider? Now it's just a warm up for us to win the FA Cup.

Aye.
I was convinced we were dead and buried, as for reaching an F.A. Cup Final...don't make me laugh.
Sherwood has completely turned our world around.
Thanks Tim.x
Agree completely. I was convinced after all the relegation flirting that we were finally done this season so really really really looking forward to Sunday and the Cup Final to come.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Smirker on May 23, 2015, 12:02:50 PM: Quote from: gervilla on May 22, 2015, 09:54:05 PM
Quote from: PeterWithesShin on May 22, 2015, 05:55:08 PM
Remember how many thought this would be a winner takes all decider? Now it's just a warm up for us to win the FA Cup.

Aye.
I was convinced we were dead and buried, as for reaching an F.A. Cup Final...don't make me laugh.
Sherwood has completely turned our world around.
Thanks Tim.x

I want to take Tim's clothes off.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on May 23, 2015, 06:04:30 PM: Isn't it completely ace that for the first time in absolutely ages we can go into a game with zero stress? With really the only concern being getting through the game injury free. Such a relaxing way to spend the weekend.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on May 23, 2015, 06:13:25 PM: Quote from: Toronto Villa on May 23, 2015, 06:04:30 PM
Isn't it completely ace that for the first time in absolutely ages we can go into a game with zero stress? With really the only concern being getting through the game injury free. Such a relaxing way to spend the weekend.

Fun isn't it? It would be lovely to spend all of a season like this.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: VancouverLion on May 23, 2015, 06:23:58 PM: Absolutely TV! Nice to wake up this morning and not be filled with dread for the first time this year!
Really looking forward to tomorrow's game a cracking atmosphere and a good send off for the boys.

This time next week we'll be half way to winning the FA Cup too, unreal after the season we've had.

UTV!!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on May 23, 2015, 06:25:52 PM: Quote from: Toronto Villa on May 23, 2015, 06:04:30 PM
Isn't it completely ace that for the first time in absolutely ages we can go into a game with zero stress? With really the only concern being getting through the game injury free. Such a relaxing way to spend the weekend.

No stress? Like last week never happened and a cup final next weekend. Don't worry, I'll do the stressing for you.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on May 23, 2015, 06:55:10 PM: Quote from: The Sound of Villadelphia on May 23, 2015, 06:25:52 PM
Quote from: Toronto Villa on May 23, 2015, 06:04:30 PM
Isn't it completely ace that for the first time in absolutely ages we can go into a game with zero stress? With really the only concern being getting through the game injury free. Such a relaxing way to spend the weekend.

No stress? Like last week never happened and a cup final next weekend. Don't worry, I'll do the stressing for you.

don't care one jot about last week. In fact I'm pretty sure last week turned out exactly as we had hoped. And given we were heading directly to hell a couple of months ago, next week is a wonderful way to end the season. I'll only be stressed with a minute to go with a 2-1 lead and Arsenal looking to tie things up...
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Gregorys Boy on May 23, 2015, 07:21:54 PM: 3-2 Villa. Benteke, Grealish and Cole for us. Ings and Barnes for them.

With both teams fates sealed I can see it being an open game. Our defence looks very dodgy right now so I can see Burnley getting some luck on the counter attack. But can see manager and players both wanting to put last week behind us and go out on a high at home. Overall I see us having a bit too much going forward for them and I think the home crowd should help the players which might not have been case if we needed a result.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on May 23, 2015, 07:57:43 PM: Even though Burnley are gone, I think we need to show them the respect they've earned and deserved this season.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on May 23, 2015, 07:58:47 PM: I agree. And smash them back up the motorway.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on May 23, 2015, 08:01:44 PM: I'd be happy with a solid 2-0 and us finishing 14th with the extra £3.5m prize money.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 23, 2015, 09:03:09 PM: Quote from: silhillvilla on May 23, 2015, 07:57:43 PM
Even though Burnley are gone, I think we need to show them the respect they've earned and deserved this season.

And me. I hope we declare when we score the 10th.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 23, 2015, 09:03:52 PM: And don't forget to pick up your copy of H&V before the game folks.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on May 23, 2015, 09:05:29 PM: From ~~me PWS because he is ace~~ both of us.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on May 23, 2015, 09:09:30 PM: *Looks around innocently*
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Tony Erdington on May 23, 2015, 09:11:45 PM: well its a full house tomorrow, and just want the boys on the pitch to be safe not get injured, whereas I think we need a bit of choir practice so would be good to have the four sides of the ground making a bit of noise.

UTV
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on May 23, 2015, 09:14:01 PM: Quote from: PeterWithesShin on May 23, 2015, 09:09:30 PM
*Looks around innocently*

He lies, so Arnie has just eaten his Wembley ticket.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: CT on May 23, 2015, 09:17:14 PM: I'll be more than happy to see Benteke, Delph, Cleverley and Vlaar wrapped in bubble wrap. They can make an appearance after the game.

I'd play Sinclair, Cole, Gil, Gabby and Weimann and then bring on some of the kids later on.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Tony Erdington on May 23, 2015, 09:25:51 PM: Quote from: CT on May 23, 2015, 09:17:14 PM
I'll be more than happy to see Benteke, Delph, Cleverley and Vlaar wrapped in bubble wrap. They can make an appearance after the game.

I'd play Sinclair, Cole, Gil, Gabby and Weimann and then bring on some of the kids later on.

with 100%
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Witton Warrior on May 23, 2015, 11:01:03 PM: Quote from: Tony Erdington on May 23, 2015, 09:11:45 PM
well its a full house tomorrow, and just want the boys on the pitch to be safe not get injured, whereas I think we need a bit of choir practice so would be good to have the four sides of the ground making a bit of noise.

UTV

There was a new song trialled at the WHammers match - the "I like it" thing - just need to get that sorted for a full rendition in 8 days time
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Witton Warrior on May 23, 2015, 11:03:53 PM: Has anything been set up for the 35th minute tribute to Slippy G?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on May 23, 2015, 11:16:08 PM: Quote from: Witton Warrior on May 23, 2015, 11:03:53 PM
Has anything been set up for the 35th minute tribute to Slippy G?

To be honest until we hopefully win the cup I wouldn't bother mocking others.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: amfy on May 23, 2015, 11:19:20 PM: That would be next week anyway.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villan from luton on May 24, 2015, 12:00:14 AM: I would be tempted to play strongest team after last weeks debacle tbh, lets put on a performance and go into the final with confidence high.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on May 24, 2015, 02:33:03 AM: Quote from: villan from luton on May 24, 2015, 12:00:14 AM
I would be tempted to play strongest team after last weeks debacle tbh, lets put on a performance and go into the final with confidence high.
They looked absolutely knackered against S Hampton, there are a few carrying injuries.
Its all about the Cup Final now, everything else is irrelevant.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villan from luton on May 24, 2015, 02:44:44 AM: Quote from: ChicagoLion on May 24, 2015, 02:33:03 AM
Quote from: villan from luton on May 24, 2015, 12:00:14 AM
I would be tempted to play strongest team after last weeks debacle tbh, lets put on a performance and go into the final with confidence high.
They looked absolutely knackered against S Hampton, there are a few carrying injuries.
Its all about the Cup Final now, everything else is irrelevant.

Who looked knackered? They had a mad opening 25 minutes and need to bounce back from that. I take your point but it has been 8 days since that game and while I agree that any players that Sherwood said were carrying injuries should be rested, I would play the others. It will be rocking in that stadium today and the players can thrive on it, I am praying for a first Jack Grealish goal
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Skerra on May 24, 2015, 06:41:12 AM: I think Tim will put out a half decent side out today and, he is the type of person that will remind the players that will tell the players that, as loyal fans, we deserve as good a performance as they can give, especially since we will have a very vocal full house today.

As regards the Final, II'm normally a bit of a pessimist but have that sneaky feeling that we will be attending a parade around the City, with the CUP very soon!!

UTV
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pbavfckuwait on May 24, 2015, 07:04:50 AM: Play what team he likes, he has earned that, if some need resting rest them, give it all from the terraces and lets put the fear of god up the library supporters for next week. Come on you Lions.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Tony Erdington on May 24, 2015, 08:29:24 AM: My team today,

Guzan
Gidman
Baker
God
Hutton
Son of Cowans
Cowans
Gabby
Weimann
Chico
me
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on May 24, 2015, 08:33:38 AM: Suspect he will play a semi full strength side then take the likes of Benteke, Delph and cleverly off after 60 mins .
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villa Lew on May 24, 2015, 10:16:39 AM: According to Sky Callum Robinson, Lewis Kinsella and academy player Andre Green could feature.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Leicester_Villian on May 24, 2015, 10:20:03 AM: Today worries me due to the referee ...Mike Jones .....he is a total idiot who makes the strangest decisions ......

I fear that Delph or Benteke could easily walk with this idiot in charge today ...therefore miss next week

Lets hope these men are given time out today
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on May 24, 2015, 10:46:33 AM: Quote from: PaulWinch again on May 23, 2015, 11:16:08 PM
Quote from: Witton Warrior on May 23, 2015, 11:03:53 PM
Has anything been set up for the 35th minute tribute to Slippy G?

To be honest until we hopefully win the cup I wouldn't bother mocking others.
Sage words
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on May 24, 2015, 10:46:52 AM: Quote from: Leicester_Villian on May 24, 2015, 10:20:03 AM
Today worries me due to the referee ...Mike Jones .....he is a total idiot who makes the strangest decisions ......

I fear that Delph or Benteke could easily walk with this idiot in charge today ...therefore miss next week

Lets hope these men are given time out today

Just don't risk them, I wouldn't.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on May 24, 2015, 10:47:29 AM: Quote from: Leicester_Villian on May 24, 2015, 10:20:03 AM
Today worries me due to the referee ...Mike Jones .....he is a total idiot who makes the strangest decisions ......

I fear that Delph or Benteke could easily walk with this idiot in charge today ...therefore miss next week

Lets hope these men are given time out today
Hang on, so a red today you miss next week ???
If that's the case play the u21's today, risk nothing.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: OzVilla on May 24, 2015, 11:11:49 AM: Totally right. I'd be really pissed of with TS if players pick up injuries or get a red today in a meaningless game. Surely we'll use common sense today and take a few out of the firing line and give them a break for next week.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on May 24, 2015, 11:12:49 AM: OK no messing about today 4-0 Andre Green hat trick and Bacuna free kick thank you!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Steve kirk on May 24, 2015, 11:14:20 AM: Heading off soon to meet my eldest lad before going to the match, so strange going feeling relaxed :)
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: KRS on May 24, 2015, 11:21:22 AM: I'd completely understand if TS decides to rest players today with the prospect of red cards or injuries. Next weekend is the only factor in deciding who plays today, so if he feels a few of them need some game time after last weekends shambles then that's all good. Its a meaningless game so lets just hope both teams play clean...and Burnley don't make too much of an effort to score to ruin the day!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on May 24, 2015, 11:22:18 AM: Quote from: Tony Erdington on May 24, 2015, 08:29:24 AM
My team today,

Guzan
Gidman
Baker
God
Hutton
Son of Cowans
Cowans
Gabby
Weimann
Chico
me
God looks your weak link there Tony.
I'll fill in at CB; rest God for next week.

UTV!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on May 24, 2015, 11:25:10 AM: This idea of resting is bunk in my opinion. Let's not worry about injuries and red cards. Today is a exhibition run out for both teams and no one is going to be too hard in tackle. Play first team keep them sharp.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on May 24, 2015, 11:25:37 AM: Quote from: KRS on May 24, 2015, 11:21:22 AM
I'd completely understand if TS decides to rest players today with the prospect of red cards or injuries. Next weekend is the only factor in deciding who plays today, so if he feels a few of them need some game time after last weekends shambles then that's all good. Its a meaningless game so lets just hope both teams play clean...and Burnley don't make too much of an effort to score to ruin the day!
Ashley Barnes is likely to be playing - we need to be wearing full body armour!
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on May 24, 2015, 12:06:53 PM: Quote from: olaftab on May 24, 2015, 11:25:10 AM
This idea of resting is bunk in my opinion. Let's not worry about injuries and red cards. Today is a exhibition run out for both teams and no one is going to be too hard in tackle. Play first team keep them sharp.
Cannot agree at all. It's a nothing game full of risk of injury with a joke of a referee in charge. You simply don't take the risk.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: footyskillz on May 24, 2015, 12:08:10 PM: Say Gardner and Robinson getting game time and delivered that would make resting a couple of players or giving them one half sweet. Agbonlahor will be involved today and Sherwood wants to win this one so don't expect major changes in the starting 11. The great thing is AVFC score most goals first half this season so work on getting job done and then a few second half changes. They tend to be like for like rather than tactical. Enjoy the match and its fantastic to have survived. And deservedly so. What I think many of us would like to see is to finish 14th rather than 17th so really its a must win match. 17th place is the one last away from relegation and to finish there would be disappointing. Let's have a rosuing finish. Cheers.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on May 24, 2015, 12:37:39 PM: Quote from: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on May 22, 2015, 01:30:36 PM
Massive game, been absolutely bricking it all week. Lambert really cannot afford any slips up this time.

Which team you supporting today Andy?
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: peter w on May 24, 2015, 01:01:13 PM: Quote from: Witton Warrior on May 23, 2015, 11:03:53 PM
Has anything been set up for the 35th minute tribute to Slippy G?

https://www.google.ae/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCcQtwIwAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DTlLWFa1b1Bc&ei=bb1hVYuZEMP_Ur-UgPAD&usg=AFQjCNEfUNexDa6OfPzm-L8d2pO-swtrLA&bvm=bv.93990622,d.ZGU
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ez on May 24, 2015, 01:32:58 PM: It's strange the amount of villa fans on facebook and twitter who think today is 'our last match of the season'.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ez on May 24, 2015, 02:03:47 PM: Paul McGrath tweets his apology for not attending Paul McGrath day.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Jameson on May 24, 2015, 02:06:38 PM: Quote from: ez on May 24, 2015, 02:03:47 PM
Paul McGrath tweets his apology for not attending Paul McGrath day.

I reckon he's staying away to show his displeasure at that bloody flag that is planned for Wembley.
Title: Re: Aston Villa vs Burnley Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ez on May 24, 2015, 02:07:22 PM: Looks like full strength apart from Gabby