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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Dave on May 09, 2015, 04:56:47 PM
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Well done all.
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Fackers facked.
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Thank fuck for that. My sphincter couldn't have taken any more time on the clock. As it is it will take a disaster of Biblical proportions now for us to go down.
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One win out of the last two games and we've done it.
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And we'll get it next weekend.
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Huge win, very difficult win. It was the opposite of last week, where we pinballed our way to victory in a mad match. Today, instead, there was almost no space and one nice run from Grealish was all we could get. So close to safety now, I can't quite believe it.
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Thought we played well on the whole. Very good in the first half. They improved in the second but never really troubled us too much. Given had problems in the first half with set pieces, but they didn't really test him too much in the second. I thought they'd be pelting it under his crossbar as much as possible.
Our midfield were excellent. Cleverley was exceptional today. The confidence he's playing with is brilliant. Another goal and a couple of good chances on top of that as well.
Gabby was very rusty it must be said. Hopefully he'll be fitter and sharper by Soton.
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Delighted with the win. Good first half and thought we were going to batter them. Sam changed it around at HT and they were a lot more positive and direct.
We struggled to really get going but hung on which is the sign of a good side.
Benteke quiet, Cleverley MOTM.
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To be fair, all the other teams around us have improved recently too, so much needed.
Hull have Spurs (A) and Man U (H) left.
Southampton are hopefully already on the beach so lets get a win next week to seal it!
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Hugely important win.
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Table looks a lot better now.Great win today.
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I think a draw next week will be sufficient given the problems that Hull find themselves in. Mind you I figure Fart Hotspur may not have any real desire so who knows.
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Excellent win, cant argue with TS's impact at Villa Park and nice to see us win two home league games on the bounce. When was the last time that happened? Must be 2-3 years
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Can I breathe now.
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One win out of the last two games and we've done it.
Ah come on, haven't the lads given enough ?!
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Spurs have to be careful not to pick up any more points, otherwise they may end up in the Europa League!
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3 points is all I care ebout. We are really putting in the shifts towards the end, we may have to do the same next week or hope spurs come off the beach.
We play early so our result may give others that extra push.......depending on what it is.
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Difficult for Hull now. Think they'll go, we'll be alright, can't see 4 teams outperforming us now.
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One win out of the last two games and we've done it.
Reckon it's done already. There's no way that all four teams below us will get 38 points or more.
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Thank F**K for that!!! We're so close now I can smell it, one more win and we can relax boys!
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Big crowd Att: 39,294
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Did anybody really doubt?
Fuck - that last 5 mins was tense. Good move bringing on Hutton and then Sanchez at the end to shore us up defensively, when spammers were having a go.
Plenty of chances for us, most went begging, but at least we got one against a west ham side that was poor first half, but stepped up second half.
Job done Villa, well done.
Ground looked pretty full and decent atmosphere on TV
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A huge, huge win. Well done to everyone, players and fans, for putting in a shift today.
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More nervous about this game than last week.
Historically, it's the kind of game we balls up after a good result.
Think we *should* be safe now. Although the way this season has gone, would anyone really be stunned to see Hull turn Tottingham over.
I don't recall any other team being 14th with two games to go, and going down though.
Possibly only a point from the next two should do it.
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Talk about torture in the second half. Massive win though think we are about safe now. Enjoy your night villains!!! UTV!!!!!!!!
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Hopefully get a win next week to make absolutely certain of safety so we can take it a little easier in the last match before the cup final.
Cleverley looks so much better when he's playing positively. Contrast him now with the shell of a player we saw under Lambert. There's just no comparison.
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After all the high scoring games a 1-0 here was very good against a stubborn West Ham.
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Bookies have us at 66/1 to go down. Think we will be fine
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When was the last time we won a game at Villa Park without it feeling like an upset / massive achievement? Despite the nerves at the end that felt relatively comfortable.
Thank you Tim; the pride is back.
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Hopefully get a win next week to make absolutely certain of safety so we can take it a little easier in the last match before the cup final.
Cleverley looks so much better when he's playing positively. Contrast him now with the shell of a player we saw under Lambert. There's just no comparison.
motm for me, tom cleverly.
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Cleverley MOTM - shades of Gerrard in his performance today
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I've been nervous about this match since about Thursday which, was when I started to come down after the Everton game. I'm a nervous nelly, I can't help it. More stuff gets done around our house between the hours of 3-5pm when we kick-off at that time on a Saturday. Come on Villa, don't let us down now we're this close.
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Cleverley MOTM - shades of Gerrard in his performance today
Complete difference a bit of confidence makes. Another great run and finish, and he had another couple of decent chances but was denied by their keeper.
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I know it doesn't matter anymore and I really shouldn't be going on about it but......
we would definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely
have been going down if Lambert was still in charge
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I know it doesn't matter anymore and I really shouldn't be going on about it but......
we would definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely
have been going down if Lambert was still in charge
I have absolutely no doubt you're right, John, totally agree with that.
That team was wretched and getting worse. The size of the turnaround since reflects very well on Sherwood and very badly on Lambert
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I know it doesn't matter anymore and I really shouldn't be going on about it but......
we would definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely
have been going down if Lambert was still in charge
I'm not sure we'd have crossed 30 points at this stage under Lambert to be honest. Think we'd be all but dead and buried now.
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A different kind of villa win today. Delighted but it was a long second half.
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Bookies have us at 66/1 to go down. Think we will be fine
80/1 on betfair
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I know it doesn't matter anymore and I really shouldn't be going on about it but......
we would definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely
have been going down if Lambert was still in charge
We'd be comfortably sitting bottom John. No doubt about it.
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I know it doesn't matter anymore and I really shouldn't be going on about it but......
we would definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely
have been going down if Lambert was still in charge
I have absolutely no doubt you're right, John, totally agree with that.
That team was wretched and getting worse. The size of the turnaround since reflects very well on Sherwood and very badly on Lambert
That's the key point, they were getting worse
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I know it doesn't matter anymore and I really shouldn't be going on about it but......
we would definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely
have been going down if Lambert was still in charge
I'm not sure we'd have crossed 30 points at this stage under Lambert to be honest. Think we'd be all but dead and buried now.
Absolutely and I thought we were too far gone, just look at the results we have had to get to be pretty much safe. When you consider how awful he was at organising and motivating the team, the fact that he left himself in sole charge of that function is pretty amazing. All credit to TS we are a completely different team now.
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I know it doesn't matter anymore and I really shouldn't be going on about it but......
we would definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely
have been going down if Lambert was still in charge
I have absolutely no doubt you're right, John, totally agree with that.
That team was wretched and getting worse. The size of the turnaround since reflects very well on Sherwood and very badly on Lambert
That's the key point, they were getting worse
I wrote a thing for the fanzine, only a couple of months or so ago, under Lambert, saying that we weren't just on course to be relegated, we were on course for one of those era-defining pathetic relegations, like Derby or Sunderland managed.
I still believe what I wrote back then, we just looked a broken team, gathering a head of steam in the wrong direction.
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I know it doesn't matter anymore and I really shouldn't be going on about it but......
we would definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely
have been going down if Lambert was still in charge
I'm not sure we'd have crossed 30 points at this stage under Lambert to be honest. Think we'd be all but dead and buried now.
Absolutely and I thought we were too far gone, just look at the results we have had to get to be pretty much safe. When you consider how awful he was at organising and motivating the team, the fact that he left himself in sole charge of that function is pretty amazing. All credit to TS we are a completely different team now.
It used to really grind my gears having his pals on TV saying it was the bad hand he had been dealt. What do you think now McInally?
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I know it doesn't matter anymore and I really shouldn't be going on about it but......
we would definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely
have been going down if Lambert was still in charge
I have absolutely no doubt you're right, John, totally agree with that.
That team was wretched and getting worse. The size of the turnaround since reflects very well on Sherwood and very badly on Lambert
The fact that we're still not mathematically safe after the way the team has been playing since Sherwood came in shows how much trouble we would have been in. We could have been comfortable sooner had the decision been taken sooner. What's done is done though and I'm looking forward to seeing what Sherwood can do in the window and then being able to start level with everyone else. After winning the cup and community shield of course.
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When we win the last two games Sherwood will have won us as many points in 13 games as Lambert managed in 25.
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I know it doesn't matter anymore and I really shouldn't be going on about it but......
we would definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely
have been going down if Lambert was still in charge
I'm not sure we'd have crossed 30 points at this stage under Lambert to be honest. Think we'd be all but dead and buried now.
Absolutely and I thought we were too far gone, just look at the results we have had to get to be pretty much safe. When you consider how awful he was at organising and motivating the team, the fact that he left himself in sole charge of that function is pretty amazing. All credit to TS we are a completely different team now.
It used to really grind my gears having his pals on TV saying it was the bad hand he had been dealt. What do you think now McInally?
Too right, this is no where near a relegation squad and the simple pundit line was lack of cash which was obviously not true.
Don't hold your breath waiting for them to say they got it wrong though- wankers
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Results wise the two wins against The Baggies set us off but beyond that it was the belief that came from those two games and then the confidence starting to grow game by game
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When we win the last two games Sherwood will have won us as many points in 13 games as Lambert managed in 25.
And when you consider the state of the club when he arrived it actually feels like he has picked up more points than that even though off course mathematically he hasn't. He's taken the club from the bottom of the pit and dragged it back to point where in the end we can look back on what turn out to be a very good season. The journey has been horrendous off course.
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I was really worried after Blunderland managed to win earlier but that was marvellous today.
To think, when he came in the players looked "shellshocked".
TS really does deserve an awful lot of credit for turning us around.
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thought we were very poor in the second half but did just enough for the win. Need to finish the last two games strongly to set us up nicely for the cup final. We overplayed the ball a lot today in the forward areas, passing for the sake of passing. The times we went direct and committed players, we created our goal and other chances. Fair play to Collins bossing Benteke but that shouldnt really be happening. The big man still has a lot to learn about the game. Cleverley was our best today for sure.
Given 5, Bacuna 7, Okore 7, Vlaar 7, Rico 6, Westwood 7, Delph 7, Cleverley 8, Grealish 7, Nzogbia 5, Benteke 5.
Hutton 5, Gabby 4, Sanchez 5
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I know it doesn't matter anymore and I really shouldn't be going on about it but......
we would definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely
have been going down if Lambert was still in charge
No we wouldn't......
We would have been down already.
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When we win the last two games Sherwood will have won us as many points in 13 games as Lambert managed in 25.
And when you consider the state of the club when he arrived it actually feels like he has picked up more points than that even though off course mathematically he hasn't. He's taken the club from the bottom of the pit and dragged it back to point where in the end we can look back on what turn out to be a very good season. The journey has been horrendous off course.
We had some pretty rotten luck in some games aswell. I think his record is won 6 Draw 1 Lose 5.
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24 goals in 14 games now, only failed to score twice. Contrast that to 8 goals in Lamberts last 14 games, failing to score 9 times.
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Oh my that was a nerve tingling second half with me sitting there with head in my hand as time after time Richardson messed it up. Sublime play by Jack and what was Cleverley doing on there. Lambert would not have allowed that.
I think we are done as Hull will not get 4 points from Spurs and Unted even if we lose last two.
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There is an outside chance of us finishing 12th and winning the Fa Cup in a season that for long parts felt like death by a thousand nils. What odds would have got in February of that happening?
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Nzogbia 5
Thought the Zog played alright, had a few moments when he was a threat and put the effort in.
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Hopefully that means I can enjoy my away trip to St Mary's next week with friends from Chichester and Andover. Think we are pretty much safe now
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The midfield is just looking a lot more solid now, we're bossing teams rather than the other way round. Delph, cleverly, grealish and Westwood all looked comfortable today.
The only weak area was down our left, Richardson didn't have a bad game, but it was only really when he was being threatened or was trying to push out that we looked vulnerable to me.
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Our first 1-0 win at home of the season. We've now won 10 league games - 5 at home and 5 away. Interestingly, we kept clean-sheets in all our away wins (Stoke, Liverpool, Palace and Spurs all 0-1. Sunderland 0-4) whereas today was the first time this season we had won at home and not conceded.
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James Collins ....we should never have let him go
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Hopefully that means I can enjoy my away trip to St Mary's next week with friends from Chichester and Andover. Think we are pretty much safe now
Hopefully! I do wish Leicester & Sunderland would stop winning bloody games though.
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Collins was very good at the back for them today. Shit myself when he got on the end of that corner towards the end, but the ball going 3' wide was a familiar outcome.
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Should have done enough to stay up now, well done Burnley first of all makes things a little easier, but TS has done amazing, not just the results but the performances and style of play.
Hopefully this will be the last time we are panicking in April for a long time, become to much of a habit in recent seasons.
UTV
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Cleverley had an excellent game, probably man of the match. He might be worth keeping hold of.
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Highlights
http://www.lastminutegoals.org/aston-villa-vs-west-ham-united-premier-league/ (http://www.lastminutegoals.org/aston-villa-vs-west-ham-united-premier-league/)
Richard Keys stating in the commentary that David O'Leary is fronting a consortium to take over the villa..........enough to make you welcome big Tone
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Highlights
http://www.lastminutegoals.org/aston-villa-vs-west-ham-united-premier-league/
Yes Richard, if it wasn't bad enough that the takeover bid was linked with Tony Adams, apparently he thinks it's David O'Leary who is connected with the bid. Tool.
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thought we were very poor in the second half but did just enough for the win. Need to finish the last two games strongly to set us up nicely for the cup final. We overplayed the ball a lot today in the forward areas, passing for the sake of passing. The times we went direct and committed players, we created our goal and other chances. Fair play to Collins bossing Benteke but that shouldnt really be happening. The big man still has a lot to learn about the game. Cleverley was our best today for sure.
Given 5, Bacuna 7, Okore 7, Vlaar 7, Rico 6, Westwood 7, Delph 7, Cleverley 8, Grealish 7, Nzogbia 5, Benteke 5.
Hutton 5, Gabby 4, Sanchez 5
I agree benteke wasn't great. That's very harsh on nzogbia though.
Cleverley was definitely motm.
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Our view from those around us was that Jores Okore was the best player on the pitch. Tom Cleverley put in his usual shift and scored but put a few passes astray. Worried about Given however. When the West Ham player.(was it Nolan? )stood his ground at a corner Given failed to impose himself in any way and missed the ball. I would prefer it if Guzan came back with immediate effect.
James Collins played very well for them as I expected he would.
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Cleverley had an excellent game, probably man of the match. He might be worth keeping hold of.
Understatement of the day
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Our view from those around us was that Jores Okore was the best player on the pitch. Tom Cleverley put in his usual shift and scored but put a few passes astray. Worried about Given however. When the West Ham player.(was it Nolan? )stood his ground at a corner Given failed to impose himself in any way and missed the ball. I would prefer it if Guzan came back with immediate effect.
Given makes me nervous. Guzan doesnt. However TS has made has choice so no going back now
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Okore looks very much in control. Westwood has been playing really well since he came back.
I thought grealish faded quite a lot as the team didn't know whether to stick or twist. Great ball for gabby at the end but gabby looked well, well off the pace
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The usual dominant first half at home nowadays but blimey that second half aged me even more than I look.
We just had to see out that game though especially with Hull losing and we're very close now to survival.
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Our view from those around us was that Jores Okore was the best player on the pitch. Tom Cleverley put in his usual shift and scored but put a few passes astray. Worried about Given however. When the West Ham player.(was it Nolan? )stood his ground at a corner Given failed to impose himself in any way and missed the ball. I would prefer it if Guzan came back with immediate effect.
Given makes me nervous. Guzan doesnt. However TS has made has choice so no going back now
Given is just scary for corners. Guzan has the strength to mix it up with opposing big men, Shay doesn't, particularly when playing against a badgering team like West Ham.
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Played well in the first half but lost the midfield in the second half when Allardyce brought Song on. Very nervy as the game went on and Gabby should have dispelled all fears by burying that late chance. But 3 very valuable points and all but mathematically safe. Amalfitano is a nasty little shit. Reports of fisticuffs before the game and horrendous traffic delays afterwards, but otherwise a good day at the office
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Cleverley was my player of the match. A step closer to safety. Excellent first half performance from the team. Still nervous, though.
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It's a complement to Grealish that Fat Sam brought on Song to man mark him.
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Okore was MoM for me; him and Vlaar snuffed out the West Ham attack effectively. Gabby was awful - needs game time. My word though, the second half was painful. FFS 5 years of this worry - hopefully things will be different next season.
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Today was a professional performance - and I genuinely feel like we never really came out of first or second gear. I also feel that if they had equalised, we would have ensured we scored another one. To me, it just felt more like a routine win... Not particularly high tempo compared to the performances of late, but industrious and we ground out the result.
That said, it's a great 3 points and means that with 2 games to go, we're in a much much better position than I feared we would be.
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As others have said I thought Collins was superb for them today. Handled Benteke very well.
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I'm going to credit Allardyce a bit here for changing things up in the second half but also having a good overall game plan to restrict the service to Benteke. Now we weren't great either in our chance creation and delivery even though we had a lot of the ball in the first half, and Collins was very solid all match. In the end it took a bit of magic to seal it, but it was always going to be nervous as it went on and we didn't take advantage of the possession. Also they knew to target Given from high balls which is something we all know is a weakness. In the end we made it through, but many years have been lost in the process.
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It's a complement to Grealish that Fat Sam brought on Song to man mark him.
It changed the game to their advantage.
Didnt think it was one of Jacks better games, but he set up the winner and Gabby for his late miss........so not bad really!
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I'm pretty sure we're OK now. As somebody said earlier, the four teams below us aren't all going to get more than 38 points even if we don't get any more (and we will).
One thing is for sure though: this must never be allowed to happen again. The last 4 seasons have been a fucking miserable time to be a Villa fan, and we're all heartily sick of it. No more.
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For the first time in years it feels like we have a manager.
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Grealish-worth the entrance fee alone.And just when he could give no more, he delivers that pass to put Gabby through on goal.Exquisite.
Great battle against Song.Grealish won.
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Sometimes you need that touch of magic. Well done our Jack.
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Thought we played some great stuff first half, had to grind it out more second half. Not surprisingly, delighted with the 3 points!
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Just home. It can't be a diet of champagne and caviar every week and that was a solid premiership bread and butter win. Collins kept Benteke remarkably quiet and Richardson had the odd wobble, Gabby needs to lose half a stone and was very rusty. Very satisfying. That midfield of Delph, TC and Westwood looks better and better with every game. I am starting to relax for the first time in six months. I can pay Tim Sherwood no greater compliment than that.
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I know that people moan about Sam but I like the bloke. In the first half today he was yelling to his players to keep the ball on the floor and play out from the back. Specifically he tried to get his defenders wide so that Adrian could pass/throw the ball out. Adrian completely ignored the instructions and kept waving the defenders forward so that he could hoof it.
Also, it was a great tactical move to bring on Song. However, he should already have been on a yellow when he was at last booked.
Jack was superb in the first half but Song took him out of the game until he made that exquisite pass to what remains of Gabby.
Tekkers was off the pace today. Not sure whether that was due to Collins or because of that knock he took in the first half.
The midfield looked solid but hopefully that's the last time that Tim thinks that Sanchez solidifies things when he cones on.
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Just home. It can't be a diet of champagne and caviar every week and that was a solid premiership bread and butter win. Collins kept Benteke remarkably quiet and Richardson had the odd wobble, Gabby needs to lose half a stone and was very rusty. Very satisfying. That midfield of Delph, TC and Westwood looks better and better with every game. I am starting to relax for the first time in six months. I can pay Tim Sherwood no greater compliment than that.
Worrabout young Jackie?
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I thought the ref had a good game as well........
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Jackie was Jackie. He is now so central to our style of play you sort of take him for granted. As my son said, he was cheering the goal as the ball left Jack's foot.
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Professional performance. Solid across the park with the mid field excellent. Given is a great shot stopper but has always been poor under pressure at set pieces. Brad has learnt his lesson now time for a recall.
Benteke was below par today but great to see the team rally and get the points without relying on the the Beast.
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Well done you Villa boys,almost there!
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Although I thought we played well in the first half, I just thought we didn't quite fire in the final third the way we have over the last couple of weeks. Saying that, we created some decent chances in the first half and could have gone in more than one up. Song coming on for them at half time really changed things and I thought we laboured at times without ever really looking in too much danger. Without wishing to be harsh, I don't think it is any coincidence that our recent enterprising football in the final third has occurred without Gabby in the side.
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Our view from those around us was that Jores Okore was the best player on the pitch. Tom Cleverley put in his usual shift and scored but put a few passes astray. Worried about Given however. When the West Ham player.(was it Nolan? )stood his ground at a corner Given failed to impose himself in any way and missed the ball. I would prefer it if Guzan came back with immediate effect.
Given makes me nervous. Guzan doesnt. However TS has made has choice so no going back now
Guzan makes me nervous every time he has the ball at his feet or tries to throw out to the fullback position. Also, he doesn't seem to have a calming influence on the defence
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Cleverley was supurb today and some fantastic football in the first half. Fat sam made two tactical subs at halftime which was testoment to our players and Jack in particular. The first touch he had after halftime song smashed him and should have been booked.
All in all we showed a lot of strength of character to hold on and win.
Good work all around.
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Without wishing to be harsh, I don't think it is any coincidence that our recent enterprising football in the final third has occurred without Gabby in the side.
and Weimann
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Our view from those around us was that Jores Okore was the best player on the pitch. Tom Cleverley put in his usual shift and scored but put a few passes astray. Worried about Given however. When the West Ham player.(was it Nolan? )stood his ground at a corner Given failed to impose himself in any way and missed the ball. I would prefer it if Guzan came back with immediate effect.
Given makes me nervous. Guzan doesnt. However TS has made has choice so no going back now
Guzan makes me nervous every time he has the ball at his feet or tries to throw out to the fullback position. Also, he doesn't seem to have a calming influence on the defence
Given didn't have much to do today, but he still made hard work of it. That corner he conceded was shocking. And corners scared me, quite a bit!
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There is an outside chance of us finishing 12th and winning the Fa Cup in a season that for long parts felt like death by a thousand nils. What odds would have got in February of that happening?
We'll finish above Albion who have two tough games.
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Hopefully that means I can enjoy my away trip to St Mary's next week with friends from Chichester and Andover. Think we are pretty much safe now
Hopefully! I do wish Leicester & Sunderland would stop winning bloody games though.
I bet they both don't win next week!
Stop worrying, we're safe with 38 points, but another three wins will finish the season off nicely.
Well done to everyone today - good football first half and resolute when we needed to be in the last 20 mins.
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Our view from those around us was that Jores Okore was the best player on the pitch. Tom Cleverley put in his usual shift and scored but put a few passes astray. Worried about Given however. When the West Ham player.(was it Nolan? )stood his ground at a corner Given failed to impose himself in any way and missed the ball. I would prefer it if Guzan came back with immediate effect.
Given makes me nervous. Guzan doesnt. However TS has made has choice so no going back now
Guzan makes me nervous every time he has the ball at his feet or tries to throw out to the fullback position. Also, he doesn't seem to have a calming influence on the defence
Given didn't have much to do today, but he still made hard work of it. That corner he conceded was shocking. And corners scared me, quite a bit!
Yes, both have their weaknesses. Is it time to look for an all round good keeper. I've always believed if you have a strong spine to the team you will not go far wrong
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Without wishing to be harsh, I don't think it is any coincidence that our recent enterprising football in the final third has occurred without Gabby in the side.
and Weimann
Really? Gabby was excellent against Albion and at Sunderland.
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There is no more telling decision by sherwood than the promotion of grealish and nzogbia over weimann. I never bought into the billy big bollocks stuff with weimann. I just don't think he's good enough
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Cleverley's run for his goal was exceptional.
Grielish stood his man still, then played the ball into the hole where Cleverley just appeared.
Great vision and awareness from both players.
TC was my MotM closely followed by Jack
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I'm pretty sure we're OK now. As somebody said earlier, the four teams below us aren't all going to get more than 38 points even if we don't get any more (and we will).
Our goal difference is poor but we should be safe. Sunderland v Leicester matters.
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Without wishing to be harsh, I don't think it is any coincidence that our recent enterprising football in the final third has occurred without Gabby in the side.
and Weimann
Really? Gabby was excellent against Albion and at Sunderland.
The thing is though, Gabby is an individual and can play well himself but cannot generally make other players play well.
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Another amazing thing is that this transformation has taken place without the spending of any money. It has been like letting a car mechanic loose in your local breaker's yard and he has knocked you up a Ferrari.
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I had a great day, first time I have made a league game this season two days after I came to England after 8 months of travelling. Caught up with an old mate, managed to time it with the sweet sounds of H&V being sold on the streets and said hello to Legion after many years. I didn't think we played as well as we have been playing, even in the first half but the players how so much belief now, summed up by Delph's backheel by his own corner flag in added time (I love that man).
Westwood was man of the match for me, quietly went about his business as ever but made a number of timely interceptions. Cleverley was also excellent, Grealish and N'Zogbia caused them problems and the back four played well together, I thought Richardson did a decent job.
I was pooing myself for the last ten minutes though.
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David Cameron will have been pissed off to see his team lose today.
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Without wishing to be harsh, I don't think it is any coincidence that our recent enterprising football in the final third has occurred without Gabby in the side.
and Weimann
Really? Gabby was excellent against Albion and at Sunderland.
True but he looked very rusty today. Another week and he hopefully will be fully fit and back to his best.
Some very professional performances today. Apart from the obvious candidates, a special mention to Jores Okore who seems to have refound his confidence and looked very solid for the second game running.
It was a very tough game today, the players especially second half looked like they were running on empty but to their credit, never stopped battling and never allowed West Ham to bully them. Delighted with the 3 points. After all the work the players have put in since Sherwood arrived, they more than deserved the victory. Sherwood has given them the confidence to express themselves and we should all be grateful to him and his backroom team.
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David Cameron will have been chuffed to see his team win today.
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David Cameron will have been chuffed to see his team win today.
Win win for Cameron
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Just back from a noisy B6. Great relief to get the 3 points and I think we deserved them overall. Tom cleverly, Charles Nzogbia and Jack Grealish were all MOTM nominees and for me Tom just shaved it.
First half we were excellent against a stubborn, resilient parked bus. Second half I think we looked a bit weary and a tad nervous. Having said that Given didn't have a shot to save other than the Collins looping header.
Gabby should have closed the game out but he's not Match fit yet.
Referee again poor this week, song couldn't live with Grealish so resorted to booting him. Downing gets wanker of the day trophy, for nothing other than being Downing.
Good turn out from the fans today and great noise.
Roll on next Saturday.
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Okore and Vlaar look very composed now. The latter seems to have returned to his 'spiritual home' whilst Okore handled everything put in front of him (not the ball, of course).
Massive compliment that Song came on to try and bully Grealish; only partially succcessfully.
Cleverley was immense and I thought Bacuna looked more comfortable as a RB today.
Westwood is - like Petrov - beginning to be recognised for the almost-invisible work he does.
Richardson did not cause me palpitations, as he did when he appeared against QPR as LB.
Gabby was understandably rusty.
All in all, not as intense as last week but a good / workmanlike win.
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Fackers facked.
You are responsible for these results, not that fucker Sherwood
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Three points. Be all and end today for me.
Chuffed to bits with the win, thought Cleverley was superb again as was Jack. Thought at times we went backwards too much when we could have committed their defenders but maybe that was my anxiety kicking in. My nerves didn't do too well today!
Have to say James Collins did a real job on Tekkers. He roughed him up at every opportunity and won so much in the air.
After the season we've had we certainly can't take wins for granted, and this was a really good one.
The only Downside: Some fans in the Upper signing "where were you when we were shit" when the attendance was announced. Thought that was pretty classless TBH.
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What was it that Amalfitano did that wound Cleverley up so much?
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Without wishing to be harsh, I don't think it is any coincidence that our recent enterprising football in the final third has occurred without Gabby in the side.
and Weimann
Really? Gabby was excellent against Albion and at Sunderland.
He was the main striker against Albion in the cup and not in the positions Grealish and N'Zogbia have been playing in the past few weeks. I think replacing one of those two with Gabby would impact on the way we have been playing.
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What was it that Amalfitano did that wound Cleverley up so much?
Took a sly swipe at him
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Three points. Be all and end today for me.
Chuffed to bits with the win, thought Cleverley was superb again as was Jack. Thought at times we went backwards too much when we could have committed their defenders but maybe that was my anxiety kicking in. My nerves didn't do too well today!
Have to say James Collins did a real job on Tekkers. He roughed him up at every opportunity and won so much in the air.
After the season we've had we certainly can't take wins for granted, and this was a really good one.
The only Downside: Some fans in the Upper signing "where were you when we were shit" when the attendance was announced. Thought that was pretty classless TBH.
Was it, raised a rye smile from me. Are people not allowed to take the piss out of people now attending games to get credits on their reference for possible Wembley tickets?
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I know it doesn't matter anymore and I really shouldn't be going on about it but......
we would definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely definitely
have been going down if Lambert was still in charge
I'm not sure we'd have crossed 30 points at this stage under Lambert to be honest. Think we'd be all but dead and buried now.
Yes I think we'd have been in the QPR-Burnley range. Maybe a lucky win or two and a draw but given 38 points might still not even be enough, we'd have been dead and buried now with Lambert still here.
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A professional enough job in what was always going to be an awkward game.
Still not safe, but it would take a freakish few results for us to go down surely.
It's why I'm pleased with Sherwoods comment about winning every game. It keeps everyone on their feat and builds momentum for the cup final.
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What was it that Amalfitano did that wound Cleverley up so much?
Apparently he kneed him behind the refs back.
I'd have thought it will be seen on MotD
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Three points. Be all and end today for me.
Chuffed to bits with the win, thought Cleverley was superb again as was Jack. Thought at times we went backwards too much when we could have committed their defenders but maybe that was my anxiety kicking in. My nerves didn't do too well today!
Have to say James Collins did a real job on Tekkers. He roughed him up at every opportunity and won so much in the air.
After the season we've had we certainly can't take wins for granted, and this was a really good one.
The only Downside: Some fans in the Upper signing "where were you when we were shit" when the attendance was announced. Thought that was pretty classless TBH.
Was it, raised a rye smile from me. Are people not allowed to take the piss out of people now attending games to get credits on their reference for possible Wembley tickets?
With an allocation of only 25000 I'd have thought they'd be wasting their time
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What was it that Amalfitano did that wound Cleverley up so much?
Apparently he kneed him behind the refs back.
I'd have thought it will be seen on MotD
He did, but it was incredibly soft. They were both chipping away at each other , I didnt see much wrong with either player tbh, just letting off steam.
The biggest twat was Song who after fouling Grealish got in his face while he was on the ground. Should have been carded.
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Three points. Be all and end today for me.
Chuffed to bits with the win, thought Cleverley was superb again as was Jack. Thought at times we went backwards too much when we could have committed their defenders but maybe that was my anxiety kicking in. My nerves didn't do too well today!
Have to say James Collins did a real job on Tekkers. He roughed him up at every opportunity and won so much in the air.
After the season we've had we certainly can't take wins for granted, and this was a really good one.
The only Downside: Some fans in the Upper signing "where were you when we were shit" when the attendance was announced. Thought that was pretty classless TBH.
Was it, raised a rye smile from me. Are people not allowed to take the piss out of people now attending games to get credits on their reference for possible Wembley tickets?
Maybe they're coming back because were actually good to watch these days rather than the utter bobbins Lamberk dished up?
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David Cameron will have been chuffed to see his team win today.
Win win for Cameron
The BBC called it "The Cameron derby"
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Sherwood said last week after the Everton game that he'd take a couple of scrappy 1-0's and thats exactly what we did today, Grealish is just so important to us now, first name on the team sheet for me, Westham having too completely revamp their tactics and bring on Alex Song too ruff him up was a massive compliment too the lad. We are safe now, even if we were too lose both our remaining games (Which we wont) there is not a chance that the 4 below us will all reach 38.
Also the Lion on the screens before the teams come out is bloody brilliant (I was shamefully too pissed too notice it before the QPR game). Onwards and Upwards!!
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Three points. Be all and end today for me.
Chuffed to bits with the win, thought Cleverley was superb again as was Jack. Thought at times we went backwards too much when we could have committed their defenders but maybe that was my anxiety kicking in. My nerves didn't do too well today!
Have to say James Collins did a real job on Tekkers. He roughed him up at every opportunity and won so much in the air.
After the season we've had we certainly can't take wins for granted, and this was a really good one.
The only Downside: Some fans in the Upper signing "where were you when we were shit" when the attendance was announced. Thought that was pretty classless TBH.
Was it, raised a rye smile from me. Are people not allowed to take the piss out of people now attending games to get credits on their reference for possible Wembley tickets?
Maybe they're coming back because were actually good to watch these days rather than the utter bobbins Lamberk dished up?
When there's hope, we can get some big crowds. We certainly did under MON, when I recall us selling out at home to West Ham.
Really, after five years of utter shite, especially at home, it's not surprising they've dipped. Apparently, today was our first back to back home league win for 14 months, which is utterly shocking.
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Paulie there's a Tom Cleverley thread that needs your love and attention. ;)
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Very nervy on the Holte today. Seemed fairly quiet in L4 considering it was essentially full.
Although there were moments towards the end when they were lumping it up to Collins that most of us wished we were still hiding behind the flag.
(http://www.andypowell.co.uk/temp/holteflag.jpg)
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Very nervy on the Holte today. Seemed fairly quiet in L4 considering it was essentially full.
Although there were moments towards the end when they were lumping it up to Collins that most of us wished we were still hiding behind the flag.
(http://www.andypowell.co.uk/temp/holteflag.jpg)
That's a great photo.
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"Cameron Derby?" Does he support them as well now?
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Very nervy on the Holte today. Seemed fairly quiet in L4 considering it was essentially full.
Although there were moments towards the end when they were lumping it up to Collins that most of us wished we were still hiding behind the flag.
(http://www.andypowell.co.uk/temp/holteflag.jpg)
That's a great photo.
Wow
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Very nervy on the Holte today. Seemed fairly quiet in L4 considering it was essentially full.
Although there were moments towards the end when they were lumping it up to Collins that most of us wished we were still hiding behind the flag.
(http://www.andypowell.co.uk/temp/holteflag.jpg)
That's a great photo.
Cheers Dave. Feel free to use it/appropriate it/steal it.
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Awesome, important win.
We've got our Villa back, and after missing last week's game due to a suspected stroke, I couldn't have been happier to be back at Villa Park.
I love Aston Vlla.
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Without wishing to be harsh, I don't think it is any coincidence that our recent enterprising football in the final third has occurred without Gabby in the side.
and Weimann
Really? Gabby was excellent against Albion and at Sunderland.
Its the other 25 games in the season that are the problem.
If we are too improve he has to be discarded. Bugger any sentiment
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And to cap it all off, I got to buy and read H&V in person. Who's the guy who sold them at the end of the game, near to the entrance to Aston Hall?
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Without wishing to be harsh, I don't think it is any coincidence that our recent enterprising football in the final third has occurred without Gabby in the side.
and Weimann
Really? Gabby was excellent against Albion and at Sunderland.
He was the main striker against Albion in the cup and not in the positions Grealish and N'Zogbia have been playing in the past few weeks. I think replacing one of those two with Gabby would impact on the way we have been playing.
Gabby has one great quality going for him as the season's end approaches - Arsenal are shit scared of him, and with good reason.
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"Cameron Derby?" Does he support them as well now?
He mistakenly said West Ham instead of Villa at a rally. He was clearly nervous and had his mind on other things. Folks have been teasing him over it.
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Absolute ledge...
I love the way he doesn't even need to think about his witty answers to boring, mundane questions...its just BOOM, hit you with my charms...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32675314
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And to cap it all off, I got to buy and read H&V in person. Who's the guy who sold them at the end of the game, near to the entrance to Aston Hall?
Middle of the road, had two young lads with him?
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Three points. Be all and end today for me.
Chuffed to bits with the win, thought Cleverley was superb again as was Jack. Thought at times we went backwards too much when we could have committed their defenders but maybe that was my anxiety kicking in. My nerves didn't do too well today!
Have to say James Collins did a real job on Tekkers. He roughed him up at every opportunity and won so much in the air.
After the season we've had we certainly can't take wins for granted, and this was a really good one.
The only Downside: Some fans in the Upper signing "where were you when we were shit" when the attendance was announced. Thought that was pretty classless TBH.
Was it, raised a rye smile from me. Are people not allowed to take the piss out of people now attending games to get credits on their reference for possible Wembley tickets?
Yeah, good one that, and they were singing to me. In this terrible season I've only been three times - West Brom in the cup, Everton and today. They NEED me at Wembley.
And the answer is babysitting BTW. I would never stop going just because we're shit.
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What was it that Amalfitano did that wound Cleverley up so much?
Apparently he kneed him behind the refs back.
I'd have thought it will be seen on MotD
Watched the game, it was a half hearted knee to the back of thigh...very girly.
Cleverley didn't make anything of it really, just said to the ref and linesman did you see that....and got on with it.
All started when Amalfitano wouldn't shake TC's hand when he fouled him. Pathetic really...that's footballers for you.
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I can't exactly articulate why, but there's just something about Tim Sherwood that if it was anyone else, I'd find them an annoying arrogant git, and possibly cringeworthy. The reality is I enjoy hearing him speak.
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Very nervy on the Holte today. Seemed fairly quiet in L4 considering it was essentially full.
Although there were moments towards the end when they were lumping it up to Collins that most of us wished we were still hiding behind the flag.
(http://www.andypowell.co.uk/temp/holteflag.jpg)
That's a stonking pic, can I/we nick it for FB?
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Why can't fat Sam just accept defeat gracefully.
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Awesome, important win.
We've got our Villa back, and after missing last week's game due to a suspected stroke, I couldn't have been happier to be back at Villa Park.
I love Aston Vlla.
Hope you're ok mate. UTV!
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Fackers facked.
You are responsible for these results, not that fucker Sherwood
Thanks, I'll be giving it 110 per fucking cent until the end of the season.
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Very nervy on the Holte today. Seemed fairly quiet in L4 considering it was essentially full.
Although there were moments towards the end when they were lumping it up to Collins that most of us wished we were still hiding behind the flag.
(http://www.andypowell.co.uk/temp/holteflag.jpg)
That's a stonking pic, can I/we nick it for FB?
It now my screensaver thank you
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Just heard on the radio that our goal keeping coach Tony Parkes' son died today. That's all that was said. Awful news.
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Awesome, important win.
We've got our Villa back, and after missing last week's game due to a suspected stroke, I couldn't have been happier to be back at Villa Park.
I love Aston Vlla.
Just seen this, keep well Oscar, do what they tell you.
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Just heard on the radio that our goal keeping coach Tony Parkes' son died today. That's all that was said. Awful news.
No parent should ever out live their child, all sympathies wished to the Parkes family.
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Thanks guys.
Villa till I die!!!
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Just heard on the radio that our goal keeping coach Tony Parkes' son died today. That's all that was said. Awful news.
No parent should ever out live their child, all sympathies wished to the Parkes family.
Agreed.
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Just heard on the radio that our goal keeping coach Tony Parkes' son died today. That's all that was said. Awful news.
No parent should ever out live their child, all sympathies wished to the Parkes family.
Oh dear, that's terrible news. What age was he? was it sudden or has he been suffering an illness? Sincere condolences to him, his wife and family.
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Just heard on the radio that our goal keeping coach Tony Parkes' son died today. That's all that was said. Awful news.
That is awful news ? RIP. Thoughts with the family.
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Agreed - puts football into perspective - at half time the club remembered former employees who had passed away - a nice touch (also acknowledged by the West Ham fans - respect for that). They mentioned lovely old Jack - the tour guide - what a fantastic fella he was - a real Villa man through and through.
I didn`t know Gordon Smith had died - when did Smudger pass away?
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Agreed - puts football into perspective - at half time the club remembered former employees who had passed away - a nice touch (also acknowledged by the West Ham fans - respect for that). They mentioned lovely old Jack - the tour guide - what a fantastic fella he was - a real Villa man through and through.
I didn`t know Gordon Smith had died - when did Smudger pass away?
Said exactly the same thing re Gordon Smith, first villa LB I saw live.
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I noticed the West Ham fans clapping too. Nice touch.
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Very nervy on the Holte today. Seemed fairly quiet in L4 considering it was essentially full.
Although there were moments towards the end when they were lumping it up to Collins that most of us wished we were still hiding behind the flag.
(http://www.andypowell.co.uk/temp/holteflag.jpg)
That's a stonking pic, can I/we nick it for FB?
Fill your boots sir. Thanks for asking.
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Very nervy on the Holte today. Seemed fairly quiet in L4 considering it was essentially full.
Although there were moments towards the end when they were lumping it up to Collins that most of us wished we were still hiding behind the flag.
(http://www.andypowell.co.uk/temp/holteflag.jpg)
That's a great photo.
Cheers Dave. Feel free to use it/appropriate it/steal it.
Oh, I will.
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Quite amusing from KUMB -
Travelled to Birmingham last night went for a beer at about 12 ish this afternoon and have stayed in the pub, thats how much i give a **** about West Ham at the moment.
couldn't care less about the result, just lost interest in the way we play football. Sam is not the man for us anymore and half the players don't give a toss.
No idea how we played today, just guessing based upon the last 10 games.
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Just heard on the radio that our goal keeping coach Tony Parkes' son died today. That's all that was said. Awful news.
I am so sorry to hear that. I hope the family find some strength to get through this horrible event. I guess no words can make their loss any less painful.
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Just heard on the radio that our goal keeping coach Tony Parkes' son died today. That's all that was said. Awful news.
So sad.
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Very nervy on the Holte today. Seemed fairly quiet in L4 considering it was essentially full.
Although there were moments towards the end when they were lumping it up to Collins that most of us wished we were still hiding behind the flag.
(http://www.andypowell.co.uk/temp/holteflag.jpg)
That's a stonking pic, can I/we nick it for FB?
Fill your boots sir. Thanks for asking.
I've nicked it too Thank you x
P.S Sorry is that Ok ?
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There's something Bankys-esque about that photo. F*cking brilliant.
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Just heard on the radio that our goal keeping coach Tony Parkes' son died today. That's all that was said. Awful news.
So sad.
Tragic, from what I can see his son Joe had a very serious car crash in 2013 and was in a coma. During AVB's time at Spurs this occurred and the players wore supportive tea shirts .
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Three points. Be all and end today for me.
Chuffed to bits with the win, thought Cleverley was superb again as was Jack. Thought at times we went backwards too much when we could have committed their defenders but maybe that was my anxiety kicking in. My nerves didn't do too well today!
Have to say James Collins did a real job on Tekkers. He roughed him up at every opportunity and won so much in the air.
After the season we've had we certainly can't take wins for granted, and this was a really good one.
The only Downside: Some fans in the Upper signing "where were you when we were shit" when the attendance was announced. Thought that was pretty classless TBH.
Was it, raised a rye smile from me. Are people not allowed to take the piss out of people now attending games to get credits on their reference for possible Wembley tickets?
Nothing wrong with a bit of spur of the moment humour from the Holte. Besides, it's no different to singing it to other club's glory hunters!!
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I thought we were excellent again first half. We were slick in our passing, pressed them well and created chances. Great to see Miln... Cleverley pop up with another goal. We've gone from not have midfielders get anywhere near the box, to three or four hitting it all at once.
Second half I thought pressure told. We were sloppy in our possession and a bit more blunt in our penetration. West Ham came into it more, but in retrospect, they created nothing.
An excellent win.
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Very nervy on the Holte today. Seemed fairly quiet in L4 considering it was essentially full.
Although there were moments towards the end when they were lumping it up to Collins that most of us wished we were still hiding behind the flag.
(http://www.andypowell.co.uk/temp/holteflag.jpg)
That's a stonking pic, can I/we nick it for FB?
Fill your boots sir. Thanks for asking.
Thank you kindly.
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I've nicked it too Thank you x
P.S Sorry is that Ok ?
All good.
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Just seen Tims after match interview. Jores Okora was carrying an injury today.
Tim "... I can't express how much he put his body on the line today..."
Full of praise for Tom Cleverley, too
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Bacuna needs to keep his hands off people in the box. That's twice now - Ci£y away and today he's got away with it.
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On our Facebook page now, thanks again exigo.
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Just heard on the radio that our goal keeping coach Tony Parkes' son died today. That's all that was said. Awful news.
Very sad news. RIP.
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Cleverly was my MOTM
Grealish excellent but sometimes he's doing too much dribbling & ends up going backwards instead of forwards, have to remember he's only a kid
Okore excellent too, something about him reminds me of Paul McGrath
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I'd like to give Westwood a mention, he played fantastic today and allowed young jack to strut his stuff. He hasn't had the credit he's deserved lately in my opinion.
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I'd like to give Westwood a mention, he played fantastic today and allowed young jack to strut his stuff. He hasn't had the credit he's deserved lately in my opinion.
Very good point MB. He does the simple things quietly and very well. Credit to whoever spotted and signed him.
He does what Sanchez can't do. Jesus Sanchez in his brief cameo gave the ball away poorly at least twice.
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Agreed MB, Westwood is becoming one of those players that's important to the side and how we play, but you don't really notice until he's not there. If that makes sense.
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Agreed MB, Westwood is becoming one of those players that's important to the side and how we play, but you don't really notice until he's not there. If that makes sense.
I think at this point it's compulsory to mention the name Des Bremner.
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Just back. The sort of good steady win that we haven't really had the luxury of over the last few seasons.
Had a great day, couple of pints in the Bartons, H and V f sellers on the streets of Aston, a chat with Legion and all 3 points. Looking forward to Wembley. It's our year.
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Thought Collins was brilliant for them.
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Some good play in the first half and then good grit in the second half when W Ham were the better team, albeit without creating many chances.
Cleverley was MOTM for me. My biggest concern was how Given doesn't clear out opponents who are clearly targeting him at set pieces - I was convinced they would equalise from one.
I thought Collins handled Benteke really well, though a lot of our crossing was poor. Song should have been booked sooner for clearly targeting Grealish but I thought Song was pivotal to their resurgence after half time and was the best player on the pitch in the second half.
The where were you when we were shit chant was a repeat of last week. Solid rather than spectacular support in the Holte today. I was in L7 by the Brigada boys and their drum - it didn't bother me at all.
Fair play to the W Ham fans for their half time applause of the former Villa staff who have died in the past season.
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Nzogbia 5
Thought the Zog played alright, had a few moments when he was a threat and put the effort in.
Zog definitely a 7 for me. He had a good game.
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I've been nervous about this match since about Thursday which, was when I started to come down after the Everton game. I'm a nervous nelly, I can't help it. More stuff gets done around our house between the hours of 3-5pm when we kick-off at that time on a Saturday. Come on Villa, don't let us down now we're this close.
Dave the job's done. It's just the paper work that needs filling in🌞
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A score of 5 is correct for Given. I know Guzan had a mare against Coty but time for his return is nigh.
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Very nervy on the Holte today. Seemed fairly quiet in L4 considering it was essentially full.
Although there were moments towards the end when they were lumping it up to Collins that most of us wished we were still hiding behind the flag.
(http://www.andypowell.co.uk/temp/holteflag.jpg)
That's a stonking pic, can I/we nick it for FB?
I've nicked it as my desktop and laptop screens now. Quality picture.
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Come to think of it, didn't hear a single song out of West Ham end today. Early on there were some Ole Ole's then a wall of silence .
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Thought Cleverley was superb and it's great to see a player like Jack almost demanding the ball and always looking to create something. Collins was very good for them unlike Nolan who looks like a Sunday league player. Thought we played some great football in the first half and could have gone in 2 or 3 up. Allardyce seemed to send Song on with instructions to kick Jack as many times as possible without being sent off.
West Ham were singing 'Bubbles' quite a bit, I could hear them in the Trinity.
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David Cameron will have been chuffed to see his team win today.
Win win for Cameron
David Cameron will have been gutted to see his team relegated today.
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Scunthorpe were relegated today?
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Or Shorpe as they are known until Cameron started supporting them.
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The key thing for me now is that we are finally seeing how good our midfield can be. Delph, Westwood and Grealish were excellent, Cleverley was better than that. In the last month or so we've outplayed spurs, liverpool, man city, everton and now west ham by bossing the midfield and we're getting better and better at it. The game is so easy if your midfield is controlling the tempo and when you've got someone like Grealish who can stitch it all together you really should be looking at top half/challenging for Europe.
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Agreed MB, Westwood is becoming one of those players that's important to the side and how we play, but you don't really notice until he's not there. If that makes sense.
I think at this point it's compulsory to mention the name Des Bremner.
Well said, Des was a brilliant player even if his debut v Arsenal made some wise person think he was tosh, that same person says he was great now lol. As for Cleverley, he is a superb player and probably too good for us as we are now, but we need to try and keep him
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Dick heads
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Dick heads
Bit harsh lol
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I thought okore was excellent. If he's carrying an injury we're almost safe enough now to rest him against soton and play senderos?
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Terrible news regarding the son of Parkes. Thoughts are with him and the family.
Glad you're okay Oscar. Take care, fella.
Finally, watching Sherwood's interview, glad he's lost the 'it's all about me' attitude and playing the clown that really pissed me off. The man seems so focused and loving his job, his team are doing the talking for him. After MON and Lambert, it's so refreshing to listen to your manager talk football and make valid points. Loved his last line but it was everything else he said that really impressed me. Long may it continue.
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Agreed MB, Westwood is becoming one of those players that's important to the side and how we play, but you don't really notice until he's not there. If that makes sense.
I think at this point it's compulsory to mention the name Des Bremner.
And Frank Carrodus
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Agreed MB, Westwood is becoming one of those players that's important to the side and how we play, but you don't really notice until he's not there. If that makes sense.
He's been good in the last few games. Taking their current form, if you were to put our midfield three into the next England side I don't think they would look out of place.
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Or Shorpe as they are known until Cameron started supporting them.
Like it citizen. Very clever!
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Our midfield 3 looks beautifully balanced.
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I thought we looked a bit weary today which can only be expected after the energy we now play with. Cleverley is just immense. A high tempo game clearly suits him and explains why he was so poor under Lambert's painfully slow and sideways passing team. We need to get it done next weekend because I think one or two could do with the rest before the Final. Tottenham are on their holidays so I wouldn't rely on them. 1 more win.
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Very nervy on the Holte today. Seemed fairly quiet in L4 considering it was essentially full.
Although there were moments towards the end when they were lumping it up to Collins that most of us wished we were still hiding behind the flag.
(http://www.andypowell.co.uk/temp/holteflag.jpg)
That's a stonking pic, can I/we nick it for FB?
I've nicked it as my desktop and laptop screens now. Quality picture.
Beautiful picture
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Thought Cleverley was superb and it's great to see a player like Jack almost demanding the ball and always looking to create something. Collins was very good for them unlike Nolan who looks like a Sunday league player. Thought we played some great football in the first half and could have gone in 2 or 3 up. Allardyce seemed to send Song on with instructions to kick Jack as many times as possible without being sent off.
West Ham were singing 'Bubbles' quite a bit, I could hear them in the Trinity.
just makes you The key thing for me now is that we are finally seeing how good our midfield can be. Delph, Westwood and Grealish were excellent, Cleverley was better than that. In the last month or so we've outplayed spurs, liverpool, man city, everton and now west ham by bossing the midfield and we're getting better and better at it. The game is so easy if your midfield is controlling the tempo and when you've got someone like Grealish who can stitch it all together you really should be looking at top half/challenging for Europe.
my thoughts exactly I said it earlier in the thread. We look in charge and since we've been on our good run nobody has been able to fuck with us in the middle of the pitch. I mentioned Grealish cleverley Delph and Westwood earlier, but zog deserves a mention also. He was strong today and has been for quite some weeks now. Challenge for Villa will be to keep this squad unscathed during the summer window and hopefully strengthen it. Winning the cup would be a massive help in that respect. Come on Villa, we have to believe it's our year.
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Good post robbo, totally agree.
A fine win today. I was more concerned about this match than Everton as we were expected to win (that makes a change) but we dominated the first half and rode the storm. Great to get a clean sheet. Chris Kamara even likened some of our play in the first half to Barcelona. That's a might fine compliment of how TS has turned the team around.
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It is. What is also wonderful is the extra moments all our midfielders take when they get the ball, to draw in a few opposing players or the way they almost gleefully they play their way into a tight space confident they will be able to work a nice little passing triangle even on the touch line.
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Be said before but our midfield is becoming a joy to watch and I include Charlie in that, thought first half we were decent not as good as some of the last couple of games, but still to much for the Spammers, second half Song did a job on Jack, but so good to see that he did not go hiding, this is going to happen a lot and he needs to be able to handle it.
Play slowed down in the second half, think at times we look a bit jaded, but still had the grit, organisation and determination to see it through, that's something we have not been able to say for a good number of years, onwards and upwards Mr. Sherwood.
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Good attendance too. The numbers are rising again, great to see.
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Burnley may be heading to be sold out
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One very minor criticism from me is the lack of pace we have on the bench at the moment. Our substitutions seem to me to slow our game down. Under TS we have played at a much higher tempo and with higher energy. Gabby still has good straight line speed but he does not have the engine of Westwood, Cleverley or Delph and he loses his edge without game time. Sanchez is physically quick enough but is mentally slow until he gets his act together. Cole is undoubtedly a class player but high energy and fast tempo are beyond him now. Alan Hutton stiffens a defence but struggles to join in the quick fire exchanges at close quarters our midfield now generates. To contradict myself a bit I would have brought Sanchez on earlier with instructions to give Song some of what he was dishing out.
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I think Sinclair and gabby have plenty of pace
I agree though that the midfield three is playing w such intensity that we'll miss any of them. Hopefully Gardner can add that. Though quick he is not!
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It is. What is also wonderful is the extra moments all our midfielders take when they get the ball, to draw in a few opposing players or the way they almost gleefully they play their way into a tight space confident they will be able to work a nice little passing triangle even on the touch line.
Agree with that, Grealish almost waits to draw in players whereas the defenders seem to hate getting too close as he'll turn them.
His awareness is incredible but his decision making could improve. Sometimes he passes when he should press/dribble and visa versa. That is a very minor criticism and it is scary how good he can be if he improves that aspect of his game (and shooting).
Under Lambert (and others) our passing was so laboured and predicable. From the stands you could see the pass hours before it was made, whereas nowadays Delph, Grealish, Benteke, Cleverly and sometimes Westwood seem to do these moves where you think "how the fuck did they do that". Whilst Nzog was better yesterday (than I had seen him previously) he does not seem to be on this wavelength.
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I think Sinclair and gabby have plenty of pace
I agree though that the midfield three is playing w such intensity that we'll miss any of them. Hopefully Gardner can add that. Though quick he is not!
From the clip on the transfer thread, the chap at Swindon seems to play at a high tempo. You'd imagine that Gil would also be able to do it although I'm not sure whether he has actual pace. You'd hope that the data analyst we employed would be able to identify such targets by sorting through midfielders running/sprinting stats.
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To contradict myself a bit I would have brought Sanchez on earlier with instructions to give Song some of what he was dishing out.
Yes I said that about 10mins into the second half. Song was dominating the ball and also dishing some stick out to Jack & co. Sanchez for N'Zogbia at that stage and than may be Gabby for Westwood if we needed it.
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Having just watched the highlights it really did look like a good team performance and I have to echo the comments about the lovely midfield triangles we now seem comfortable playing in inches of space. I'm sure there were many more moments like that in the first half that didn't get shown on MOTD. Something that really stood out (apart from goal machine Tom Cleverley) was the ball Grealish played for Gabby towards the end. We're under a bit of pressure and his instinctive pass was perfectly weighted for Gabby to run on to and, although Cresswell did ok to put him off, Gabby completely miss-hit the finish when it would have been easier to score.
So pleased for everyone (like me) who went to games during the bad times of the last few years and jealous of you lucky feckers going to games now (since I can't) who are reaping the rewards of Villa's Brazil-like football. You deserve it.
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Agreed MB, Westwood is becoming one of those players that's important to the side and how we play, but you don't really notice until he's not there. If that makes sense.
I think at this point it's compulsory to mention the name Des Bremner.
Petrov also springs to mind.
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I loved the way Downing escorted Jack on his way to the line keeping a safe respectful gap. After all there was no need to get hurt there.
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Agreed MB, Westwood is becoming one of those players that's important to the side and how we play, but you don't really notice until he's not there. If that makes sense.
I think at this point it's compulsory to mention the name Des Bremner.
Well said, Des was a brilliant player even if his debut v Arsenal made some wise person think he was tosh, that same person says he was great now lol. As for Cleverley, he is a superb player and probably too good for us as we are now, but we need to try and keep him
In that case I would like you not to ignore Frank Carrodus.
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Burnley may be heading to be sold out
You'd like to think so, it will be a chance to give the lads a rousing send off before FA Cup Final and to hopefully celebrate in the sun premier league survival and maintain our ever present record, all this capped off with a positive summer and next campaign to look forward to with possible European football too.
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One very minor criticism from me is the lack of pace we have on the bench at the moment. Our substitutions seem to me to slow our game down. Under TS we have played at a much higher tempo and with higher energy. Gabby still has good straight line speed but he does not have the engine of Westwood, Cleverley or Delph and he loses his edge without game time. Sanchez is physically quick enough but is mentally slow until he gets his act together. Cole is undoubtedly a class player but high energy and fast tempo are beyond him now. Alan Hutton stiffens a defence but struggles to join in the quick fire exchanges at close quarters our midfield now generates. To contradict myself a bit I would have brought Sanchez on earlier with instructions to give Song some of what he was dishing out.
I think the point of the subs yesterday was to slow the game down and to take the fire out of West Ham's improved second half performance. Hutton and Sanchez are certainly more defensive than the players they replaced and Gabby was there to stretch their defence. For me it worked well. We were never in real danger
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The subs were all big physical ones to try and counter the physicality Fat Sam had introduced - Song and Carlton Cole,
Hutton, Sanchez and Gabby are all big physical players.
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I was still very nervous despite being in control of the game. Very pleased with how we are playing. Hopefully we can get the 3 points nice an early next week at at Saints, but it's never that easy is it. Like a few have said, it was great to see H&V being sold around the ground. I spoke with Percy before the game and gladly gave him my £2.
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Another good win. It was one of those games where I felt pretty confident that the opposition wouldn't score. It was nice that Grealish got man of the match but I thought Cleverley was better.
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Another good win. It was one of those games where I felt pretty confident that the opposition wouldn't score. It was nice that Grealish got man of the match but I thought Cleverley was better.
Agreed. The goal wasn't just a tap-in, it was a really great break from midfield of the kind that's been totally absent for a few years now, and the rest of his performance was dynamic to say the least. Who knew he could be such a good all-round midfielder?
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Burnley may be heading to be sold out
You'd like to think so, it will be a chance to give the lads a rousing send off before FA Cup Final and to hopefully celebrate in the sun premier league survival and maintain our ever present record, all this capped off with a positive summer and next campaign to look forward to with possible European football too.
I booked a couple of tickets last week (first game this season...glory hunting I know), and there was one seat left in the Holte End and very limited availability in the upper Trinity and Witton Lane. Should be a rousing send off for the boys!
By the way...do you think I can get an FA Cup Final ticket now I've bought a ticket for a game? Plus I watched all of those crap games on dodgy streams for the last four seasons and hardly switched off early at all. It was like the torture scene from Clockwork Orange. Surely I deserve a ticket?! :D
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I thought Song was very good for them, exactly the kind of performance that Sanchez is capable of if he concentrates and the kind of player we need on occasions.
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Song was the best player on the park 2nd half. Still, our Jack made a mug of him with his weekly 'who am I going to make a mug of show'.
A grafted win, not that pretty in the last 20 mins but we did the job and deserved it.
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Awesome, important win.
We've got our Villa back, and after missing last week's game due to a suspected stroke, I couldn't have been happier to be back at Villa Park.
I love Aston Vlla.
Wishing you a swift and full recovery from any illness mate.
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Awesome, important win.
We've got our Villa back, and after missing last week's game due to a suspected stroke, I couldn't have been happier to be back at Villa Park.
I love Aston Vlla.
I hope you are feeling well OA, all the best.
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Caption competition waiting to happen.
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I think there was still a bit of naivety about us yesterday, mainly in the way the ball seemed to spend a lot of time in the air, which is exactly how Allardyce wants things. I said to the bloke next to me that we weren't going to get any joy until someone tried to dribble it into the box. Lo and behold, thirty seconds later, Grealish did just that. As an aside, it was thrilling to see how brilliant he is on the ball from anout ten feet away. If I was ten again, obsessed with and able to play football, Grealish would be the player I would want to be in the playground.
I really hope Cleverley wants to sign. Easily the man of the match for me; I reckon the sponsors wanted to meet Grealish as he's a more celebrated player at the mo. But everything ace about us yesterday had Cleverley's influence. I don't like reading too much into players on the pitch, but the way he celebrated again and the pile-on the squad indulged in right in front of us seemed to show a group that adore playing in this team. It would be really disappointing to lose anyone from that starting eleven over the summer.
My dream scenario for next week is a win against a very poor Southampton (and they were, again), a Hull win and a Newcastle loss. Not a Hull fan, just enjoying a bit of schadenfreude. The fact that we could still drop is maddening, but then again, why would you rotate now?
Bit of a shout for the West Ham fans. Pretty impressed with their noise, tbh, considering their side was so functional and gritty. Singing 'you've only got one song' was a bit ironic, considering they didn't even roll out that bubbles thing.
And that lion graphic with the ominous growl? Superb. They've finally got it right.
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I was still very nervous despite being in control of the game. Very pleased with how we are playing. Hopefully we can get the 3 points nice an early next week at at Saints, but it's never that easy is it. Like a few have said, it was great to see H&V being sold around the ground. I spoke with Percy before the game and gladly gave him my £2.
Always a pleasure to see you and your son mate.
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A score of 5 is correct for Given. I know Guzan had a mare against Coty but time for his return is nigh.
Absolutely 100% agree.
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"They're playing like Barcelona mate,they're popping the ball about" Kris Camra reporting for Sky yesterday.
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I think there was still a bit of naivety about us yesterday, mainly in the way the ball seemed to spend a lot of time in the air, which is exactly how Allardyce wants things. I said to the bloke next to me that we weren't going to get any joy until someone tried to dribble it into the box. Lo and behold, thirty seconds later, Grealish did just that. As an aside, it was thrilling to see how brilliant he is on the ball from anout ten feet away. If I was ten again, obsessed with and able to play football, Grealish would be the player I would want to be in the playground.
I really hope Cleverley wants to sign. Easily the man of the match for me; I reckon the sponsors wanted to meet Grealish as he's a more celebrated player at the mo. But everything ace about us yesterday had Cleverley's influence. I don't like reading too much into players on the pitch, but the way he celebrated again and the pile-on the squad indulged in right in front of us seemed to show a group that adore playing in this team. It would be really disappointing to lose anyone from that starting eleven over the summer.
My dream scenario for next week is a win against a very poor Southampton (and they were, again), a Hull win and a Newcastle loss. Not a Hull fan, just enjoying a bit of schadenfreude. The fact that we could still drop is maddening, but then again, why would you rotate now?
Bit of a shout for the West Ham fans. Pretty impressed with their noise, tbh, considering their side was so functional and gritty. Singing 'you've only got one song' was a bit ironic, considering they didn't even roll out that bubbles thing.
And that lion graphic with the ominous growl? Superb. They've finally got it right.
Hardly heard the hammers, and I was upper north.Think they rolled out bubbles twice.
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I think their noise surprised me cos I'm generally a Holte End chap. Maybe it was just proximity.
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Funny comment on KUMB
"Allardyce chewing like an enormous headed Jersey cow".
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Bit of a shout for the West Ham fans. Pretty impressed with their noise, tbh, considering their side was so functional and gritty. Singing 'you've only got one song' was a bit ironic, considering they didn't even roll out that bubbles thing.
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The acoustics of Villa Park eh? I was in the lower Holte and couldn't hear them at all. I could see they were singing but heard absolutely nothing.
One point I had forgotten: given the tension at the end of the game I was amazed at how many people were leaving even before injury time. Looking at the Witton Lane stand for example, it was visible how few West Ham fans were leaving early compared to Villa fans.
Oh and another thing, there was an upturned car on the M40 near Warwick services, blocking 2 lanes. I hope nobody was seriously injured. I must have got through just before the police closed off the road as I stopped for a pee and a coffee and when I headed off I didn't see another car for about 10 miles. It was like the motorway scene in 28 Days Later.
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And another one...
"Villa are knocking it around with a confidence of a top 6 side and every single one of their players are finding acres of space, from full-back to striker".
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When Sam makes not one but two substitutions at half time to try and contain us you know we are doing something right.
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Another good win. It was one of those games where I felt pretty confident that the opposition wouldn't score. It was nice that Grealish got man of the match but I thought Cleverley was better.
and a few of us thought Jores Okore was better than either of the above. Good to have so many players performing to such a high standard though.
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Another good win. It was one of those games where I felt pretty confident that the opposition wouldn't score. It was nice that Grealish got man of the match but I thought Cleverley was better.
and a few of us thought Jores Okore was better than either of the above. Good to have so many players performing to such a high standard though.
I really want to like Jores but I just think at the minute he has a rick or two in each game which he needs to focus on - he reminds me a bit of Ugo in the way that Cleverley reminds me of David Platt.
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I agree okore has a mistake in him. But I can't remember one yesterday.
The last two games have served to tell us why given can't be first choice though. He could easily have cost us twice through his inability to compete with someone on his toes or not. You can bet every team we play will try the same tactic to see what mood the ref is in
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Reading the BBC report about how poor West Ham were first half put me in mind of last week's report, when they said the same thing about Everton.
Wonder if they considered that this strange coincidence may have occurred because the home team were vastly superior?
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I love listening to Allardyce after they've lost. If there is a more myopic and bitter manager going, I'd be shocked.
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I love listening to Allardyce after they've lost. If there is a more myopic and bitter manager going, I'd be shocked.
He looked like he knew he was off at the end of season. He looked dis-interested and tired. I am sure cack-beard wants a bigger name manager when they move to their taxpayers stadium.
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I think he made the point that his team have lacked the cutting edge for about 10 games which is almost coincidental with his clear the air meeting with Brady. So basically fuck you West Ham board.
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Burnley may be heading to be sold out
You'd like to think so, it will be a chance to give the lads a rousing send off before FA Cup Final and to hopefully celebrate in the sun premier league survival and maintain our ever present record, all this capped off with a positive summer and next campaign to look forward to with possible European football too.
I booked a couple of tickets last week (first game this season...glory hunting I know), and there was one seat left in the Holte End and very limited availability in the upper Trinity and Witton Lane. Should be a rousing send off for the boys!
As the Everton, Spam and Burnley games count to FA Cup final tickets, it is not just the good turn around in form that is causing the sell out crowds suddenly.
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I said yesterday the West Ham fans barely sung. I stand by that, I was Witton upper but towards holte. They barely made any noise.
Saw one villa fan getting turfed out of North lower and that got their biggest reaction of the day.
Song didn't do much other than kick and try and impose himself on Grealish . I thought we looked very leggy and nervous second half and clearly Benteke had an off day.
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Reading the BBC report about how poor West Ham were first half put me in mind of last week's report, when they said the same thing about Everton.
Wonder if they considered that this strange coincidence may have occurred because the home team were vastly superior?
I was thinking about this earlier funnily enough. So far over the past month we've been lucky enough to play against a poor Tottenham, a poor Liverpool, a poor Man City, a poor Everton, and now a poor West Ham. Lucky for us, eh? phew.
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Agreed MB, Westwood is becoming one of those players that's important to the side and how we play, but you don't really notice until he's not there. If that makes sense.
I think at this point it's compulsory to mention the name Des Bremner.
Petrov also springs to mind.
Also Gavin McCann. (Didn't *spit* O'Leary say this about him once?)
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Agreed MB, Westwood is becoming one of those players that's important to the side and how we play, but you don't really notice until he's not there. If that makes sense.
I think at this point it's compulsory to mention the name Des Bremner.
Petrov also springs to mind.
Also Gavin McCann. (Didn't *spit* O'Leary say this about him once?)
Frank Carrodus.
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I'm glad we've got another three points we are nearly there now.
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Agree with all the plaudits our midfield have been getting, but it does concern me, out of them there's only Cleverley, who looks a goal threat. As well Jack's played since he's come into the side, can't remember an occasion, when he looked like finding the net.
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Delph is a threat too. But I agree othwrwise. The players in the nzogbia and grealish portions have to score more
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I'm glad we've got another three points we are nearly there now.
I think we are already safe but sense we will collect 6 more points
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Agree with all the plaudits our midfield have been getting, but it does concern me, out of them there's only Cleverley, who looks a goal threat. As well Jack's played since he's come into the side, can't remember an occasion, when he looked like finding the net.
Whilst he's creating and being an overall menace, I can wear it.
Our midfield are actually weighing in with goals now, and he is a big factor in that.
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It is a long time since I have seen us dominate a game as thoroughly as we did in the first half and then how comfortably we dealt with their inevitable second half improvement.
I would also echo the comments of those grateful that we didn't go for Yam Yam Sam. When they win a game he claims credit for his selections or his tactics but when they lose it is never anything to do with him and all down to the players or officials.
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Agree with all the plaudits our midfield have been getting, but it does concern me, out of them there's only Cleverley, who looks a goal threat. As well Jack's played since he's come into the side, can't remember an occasion, when he looked like finding the net.
Whilst he's creating and being an overall menace, I can wear it.
Our midfield are actually weighing in with goals now, and he is a big factor in that.
Also, whenever the ball is within 30 yards of him, is rarely caught standing still. He is always available for a pass.
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What I find quite pleasing is we are sat here picking faults in a win over a top 10 side. Makes a nice change.
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The only complaint about yesterday was it was obvious we were playing to West Ham's strength in Collins, who won almost everything against Benteke. It reminded me of Lambert with his General Haigh tactics, it clearly wasn't working for Benteke but we didn't try anything else and gave Collins one of the easiest days he's ever had at Villa Park. Collins was excellent yesterday but we really made it very easy for him. As we all know he's not so great when he has to defend with his feet or has players running at him.
I hope Sherwood (and his coaches) can have a look at Benteke's goals video from his first season, the Beast can score every type of goal, he's that good. Maybe Benteke needs to look at the video too as we have the players to provide the service, we just need to look at other options when it becomes obvious we're banging our head against the wall.
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Collins should have been booked early on for a wreck less challenge on the beast. That would have put him on edge and made him look less afirmed at the back. He wasn't that good, just headed and hoofed lots of balls away.
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They tried to vary up the crosses to be fair. Cleverly hit some really nice low ones in. I don't think Benteke was his sharp self and coupled with how well Collins played it wasn't a good day for the big man. But we did try and create in other ways and I don't think it was like Lambert who would have just whacked it long all afternoon.
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Bacuna put in some poor crosses yesterday. Almost all picked by the first defender.
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What you don't do to Collins is play to his strengths. We saw yesterday with the chance benteke scuffed wide how Collins is 2 yards off the pace of a decent move, equally for the goal Collins is guilty of being sucked into the near post and leaving a gaping hole for Cleverly to run into.
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You're right, Collins should have been booked yesterday. For the second game running I thought the referee was poor, Song should have been in the book too and possibly that idiot that was having a go at Cleverly.
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Bacuna needs to keep his hands off people in the box. That's twice now - Ci£y away and today he's got away with it.
It's better than biting people in the box? (that sounds more wrong)
But seriously you are right. i was going to post similar.
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You're right, Collins should have been booked yesterday. For the second game running I thought the referee was poor, Song should have been in the book too and possibly that idiot that was having a go at Cleverly.
Indeed I thought the ref was poor, not as bad as Clatterburg last week but none the less very poor.
I think West Ham will equally say he was poor though whereas last week clatterburg gave 100% calls to Everton.
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Burnley may be heading to be sold out
Almost sold out. Been online trying to get a couple of tickets and about 50 left and singles only.
If any of you not going and want to hand your ST to me please do so with pleasure ;)
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You're right, Collins should have been booked yesterday. For the second game running I thought the referee was poor, Song should have been in the book too and possibly that idiot that was having a go at Cleverly.
Indeed I thought the ref was poor, not as bad as Clatterburg last week but none the less very poor.
I think West Ham will equally say he was poor though whereas last week clatterburg gave 100% calls to Everton.
Well I thought Lee Mason ws excellent. Good all round game and great decision on Bacuna pull v Noble obstructing Shay.
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Agree with all the plaudits our midfield have been getting, but it does concern me, out of them there's only Cleverley, who looks a goal threat. As well Jack's played since he's come into the side, can't remember an occasion, when he looked like finding the net.
All I'll say in response to this is that if he creates chances like the ones yesterday every game I wouldn't be bothered if he never scored one himself. The run for the goal was superb and completely opened them up and then the ball for Gabby was world class. If he can add goals then great but if not so long as he's making things happen every game I'm not going to worry about it.
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Burnley may be heading to be sold out
Almost sold out. Been online trying to get a couple of tickets and about 50 left and singles only.
If any of you not going and want to hand your ST to me please do so with pleasure ;)
Plenty on viagogo starting at £40 all in, fill your boots.
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they start at £27 plus fees.
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they start at £27 plus fees.
Number of Tickets
Price/Ticket £27.00
Booking Fee £4.05
SUBTOTAL £31.05
+ Handling and VAT
So not far off £40 all in like I said.
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£33.86 in total isn't "starting at £40" really is it.
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£33.86 in total isn't "starting at £40" really is it.
Handling charge and VAT to be added on to £31.05
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Which takes it to £33.86. I just logged in and that's the total you pay.
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Which takes it to £33.86. I just logged in and that's the total you pay.
Ahh is it vat added to the handling charge then ? Or VAT added to the ticket price ?
Got mine for £14 all in but did buy it about a month ago.
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No idea how they work out, total fees (handling, fees VAT) is £6.86 on those £27 tickets.
I did the same, if i'd known the club would do that early bird at a tenner off any ticket i'd have gone in the Holte instead. Still, it's a good view for the UT Ultras up there.
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No idea.
Must be pushing 30 years since I've sat in North upper, think it was Gornik Zabrze and they hadn't finished the sidings so was like a wind tunnel up there with my new romantic quiff getting blown all over the place.
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You're right, Collins should have been booked yesterday. For the second game running I thought the referee was poor, Song should have been in the book too and possibly that idiot that was having a go at Cleverly.
Indeed I thought the ref was poor, not as bad as Clatterburg last week but none the less very poor.
I think West Ham will equally say he was poor though whereas last week clatterburg gave 100% calls to Everton.
Well I thought Lee Mason ws excellent. Good all round game and great decision on Bacuna pull v Noble obstructing Shay.
Thought so too. He tried to let the game flow but knew Grealish would be targeted and called most fouls on him. Also wasn't he the 4th official last week vs Everton or was I imagining that? Because I'm sure Sherwood was having a good word with him. If it wasn't Everton it was a recent game,
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Last time I was Upper North was Watford, the return of SGT and we won 4-0 with Richard Walker scoring. I remember because i'd bet on us winning 3-0. Never liked Walker after that! Jeeze, thinking about it, that must be about 15 years ago!
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Last time I was Upper North was Watford, the return of SGT and we won 4-0 with Richard Walker scoring. I remember because i'd bet on us winning 3-0. Never liked Walker after that! Jeeze, thinking about it, that must be about 15 years ago!
Don't even remember that game, was probably there though in my stone washed jeans.
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Stone washed jeans? Quiff? Are you Shakin Stevens?
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Stone washed jeans? Quiff? Are you Shakin Stevens?
15 year gap between the two
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Stone washed jeans? Quiff? Are you Shakin Stevens?
15 year gap between the two
Shakin Stevens is always changing his look. Quite the chameleon in fact. Takes some keeping up with.
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1 seat left in the Holte for the Burnley game!
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1 seat left in the Holte for the Burnley game!
Brilliant times.
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I got the last 3 from the 1000 Tickets for Schools scheme available.
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1 seat left in the Holte for the Burnley game!
Brilliant times.
Just went for a virtual tour of the ground with the club site the ticket office and the Holte is now completely sold out. Full house it is then. Anyone know what the capacity is?
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Yes.
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Few chancers on viagogo listing burnley tickets for £200 each
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I wonder if Burnley will take a smaller allocation meaning the usual away fan lower area becomes available to us.
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Few chancers on viagogo listing burnley tickets for £200 each
I didn't think you could ask more than face value on the Villa Viagogo. Hopefully they get pulled, £200 for concession tickets, cockwombles.
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Few chancers on viagogo listing burnley tickets for £200 each
I didn't think you could ask more than face value on the Villa Viagogo. Hopefully they get pulled, £200 for concession tickets, cockwombles.
You can definitely ask what you want above face value on viagogo .
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Watching Goals On Sunday this morning and we received some very nice encouraging comments...
Chris Kamara: "Some of their football in the first 45 minutes was sensational"
Ben Shepherd: "It was just like watching Brazil, it was extraordinary "
...so much positivity coming from the manager, players and fans is now being echoed in the media. How times have changed in the last few months since TSM2 left the building. It's a genuine pleasure to watch the same 11 players represent Aston Villa.
On a side note...Bacuna really needs to stop these blatant arm bulls in the box. He's got away with 2 now at Man City and against West Ham. It is completely unnecessary and we may not be quite so lucky the 3rd time so please just pack it in.
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I wonder if Burnley will take a smaller allocation meaning the usual away fan lower area becomes available to us.
They've taken the full allocation.
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I wonder if Burnley will take a smaller allocation meaning the usual away fan lower area becomes available to us.
They've taken the full allocation.
Fair play to them, that's quality support, guess they got snapped up pre relegation but I'm sure they'd have sold them anyway.
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So much for that then.
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I know this question is being ask by many Villa fans. But surely Gill could/would have a much more effective presence than Nzogbia ?? Do not get me wrong Nzogbia has improved his work rate. But Gil has better control, vision and is a bigger goal threat ?? He is still contender for Villa`s goal of the season ......
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I'm glad we've got another three points we are nearly there now.
yes
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I know this question is being ask by many Villa fans. But surely Gill could/would have a much more effective presence than Nzogbia ?? Do not get me wrong Nzogbia has improved his work rate. But Gil has better control, vision and is a bigger goal threat ?? He is still contender for Villa`s goal of the season ......
I agree, but would say that Sherwood has managed to find a line up that works, and is maybe thinking he's happy to stay with that rather than take any risks to change it in an attempt to make it better.
At the moment, it seems to be doing the job.
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1 seat left in the Holte for the Burnley game!
Brilliant times.
Just went for a virtual tour of the ground with the club site the ticket office and the Holte is now completely sold out. Full house it is then. Anyone know what the capacity is?
I didn't know myself, so I just had to google it. Supposedly 42,682. There are currently three single seats offered for sale on the OS, so it should be the biggest gate for some time.
The capacity of the Hawthorns is given as 26,272, which sounds unlikely. That isn't much different to Turf Moor (22,546), although whether the Albion can claim to be the bigger club is debatable, given that Burnley have won the league more often and more recently.
More importantly, Villa Park's co-ordinates are 52°30′33″ North, 1°53′5″ West. No other football ground can claim this.
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Not 1 seat anywhere now....and my mum just asked for a seat for her birthday....all these glory hunters can do one ;)
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Still seats on Viagogo
Burnley tickets on Viagogo (http://www.viagogo.co.uk/astonvilla?affiliateID=1721&PCID=AFFGBIAFF1721EEFF096FFE)
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Only 63 seats left on viagogo .
62
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A beautiful sight!
(http://i.imgur.com/zS7y4ad.png)
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I know this question is being ask by many Villa fans. But surely Gill could/would have a much more effective presence than Nzogbia ?? Do not get me wrong Nzogbia has improved his work rate. But Gil has better control, vision and is a bigger goal threat ?? He is still contender for Villa`s goal of the season ......
i know it makes sense to stick with a team that is "working" especially at such a crucial time. Just hope during pre season he gets a chance to really show how good a player he can be ......
I agree, but would say that Sherwood has managed to find a line up that works, and is maybe thinking he's happy to stay with that rather than take any risks to change it in an attempt to make it better.
At the moment, it seems to be doing the job.
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Still seats on Viagogo
Burnley tickets on Viagogo (http://www.viagogo.co.uk/astonvilla?affiliateID=1721&PCID=AFFGBIAFF1721EEFF096FFE)
I can't go due to being at a festival. I put mine on for £23 on Friday night and it was sold at 9am saturday morning. They were available on the official site for £25, didn't expect people to be so eager!
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cheer guys. Looking at £80 for 2 in trinity...I think she would prefer perfume!
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There are 3 less on Viagigo now
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I'll consider swapping my Burnley ticket for a
weekend with Kaley Cuoco cup final ticket.
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Looks like this could be a lockout.
The last proper one I recall was the spurs midweeker, I'd know as I was locked out and watched from Aston hall hill .
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You don't really get lockouts these days as games are all ticket. So everyone will know this is a sellout, like all the other sellouts we've had.
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I fucking love the optimism around the club right now. How completely ridiculous it is to write that a few short months after Hull...
http://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?topic=53601.0
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You don't really get lockouts these days as games are all ticket. So everyone will know this is a sellout, like all the other sellouts we've had.
Yes was cash on gate back then, early 90's ?
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I fucking love the optimism around the club right now. How completely ridiculous it is to write that a few short months after Hull...
http://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?topic=53601.0
3 months ago! feck me, Now we have sold out to a team who are relegated and we will probably field a weakened team. Amazing how things can change. I took another 4 people from Leyland on Saturday. They all loved it, and I suspect I have converted another little lad into loving the villa. Its good taking a 'foreigner' they calm you down when your panicking cause Collins is playing centre forward.
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About 25mins into the first half (when West Ham were getting dizzy chasing the ball) my son turned to me and said "its just as exciting as when O'Neill was first here".
We seem to get these glimpses every now and again of what this club could be and I think this is just such an opportunity.
Let's hope this time we grasp it very firmly.
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I think I'm right in saying Burnley are the best supported team in the UK as a proportion of town population to team attendance.
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I think I'm right in saying Burnley are the best supported team in the UK as a proportion of town population to team attendance.
They must be PW. A few years back I remember hearing that gates of 16k represented 20% of the population - then the highest in all 4 divisions as a percentage - and I assume their current gates are around 20k
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I think I'm right in saying Burnley are the best supported team in the UK as a proportion of town population to team attendance.
They must be PW. A few years back I remember hearing that gates of 16k represented 20% of the population - then the highest in all 4 divisions as a percentage - and I assume their current gates are around 20k
Can't be, the bestest supporters in the world are the geordies, everyone knows that.
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I fucking love the optimism around the club right now. How completely ridiculous it is to write that a few short months after Hull...
http://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?topic=53601.0
I was at the hull away game spent the night there, that was bad.
Re-reading that thread is even worse. I think I have post traumatic stress disorder
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I think I'm right in saying Burnley are the best supported team in the UK as a proportion of town population to team attendance.
No Small Heath are the best. Population of their town is 45000 all out of work and at least 25% have been at the matches.
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No way. It's West Smethwick Bromwich followed closely by Sports Direct Utd FC
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I fucking love the optimism around the club right now. How completely ridiculous it is to write that a few short months after Hull...
http://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?topic=53601.0
I was at the hull away game spent the night there, that was bad.
Re-reading that thread is even worse. I think I have post traumatic stress disorder
hideous night on so many levels. And the PM thread is as much resignation as anger. In fact there was a lot of that even leading up to that game. You didn't know whether to shout anymore as it didn't do any good, so a lot of people just shrugged their shoulders at the endless misery.
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I fucking love the optimism around the club right now. How completely ridiculous it is to write that a few short months after Hull...
http://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?topic=53601.0
I was at the hull away game spent the night there, that was bad.
Re-reading that thread is even worse. I think I have post traumatic stress disorder
hideous night on so many levels. And the PM thread is as much resignation as anger. In fact there was a lot of that even leading up to that game. You didn't know whether to shout anymore as it didn't do any good, so a lot of people just shrugged their shoulders at the endless misery.
I remember walking out on about 84 mins, walking around the non description generic external circumference of the ground looking for my way back to the taxi rank, losing focus, popping back in , watching Ciaran Clark fir a few seconds launch a ball 80 feet skywards, walking out again getting disorientated and then exiting the complex in the wrong direction over the wrong bridge, a shit end to a god awful night, in many ways it epitomised Lamberts tenure. Lost, directionless , confused with no compass , direction or leadership .
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I think I'm right in saying Burnley are the best supported team in the UK as a proportion of town population to team attendance.
They must be PW. A few years back I remember hearing that gates of 16k represented 20% of the population - then the highest in all 4 divisions as a percentage - and I assume their current gates are around 20k
I vaguely recall reading something years ago about them averaging 37,000 when the town's population was about 80k.
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I fucking love the optimism around the club right now. How completely ridiculous it is to write that a few short months after Hull...
http://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?topic=53601.0
I was at the hull away game spent the night there, that was bad.
Re-reading that thread is even worse. I think I have post traumatic stress disorder
I too have reflected on my visit to Hull and the sheer hopelessness that permeated throughout the Villa faithful that night. We were inept and listless. Sinclair's first game (?) offered absolutely no sense of forward momentum.
The only positive was the complete ineptitude of Lambert's response and the vitriolic 'Lambert Out' movement amongst us.
It all seems so far back, thank goodness.
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A beautiful sight!
(http://i.imgur.com/zS7y4ad.png)
OS is now showing some availability (must be returns) managed to sort my Mum and dad out
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£200 for an over 65!!!
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When I had a look in my Crystal Ball (on the positive hopeful setting).
We win both our games, takes us to 44pts
WBA, lose & draw against Arsenal & Chelsea and we finish above them. It could happen....
Though I think it'll be a win and draw for us.
(long time lurker, hi ya!)
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Can someone explain to me why the season is going on so long this year, or this the norm now for the Premier League?
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A beautiful sight!
(http://i.imgur.com/zS7y4ad.png)
OS is now showing some availability (must be returns) managed to sort my Mum and dad out
Good job Im banned then innit ?
A beautiful sight!
(http://i.imgur.com/zS7y4ad.png)
OS is now showing some availability (must be returns) managed to sort my Mum and dad out
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Welcome postal. We need a few more optimists on here.
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Welcome postal. We need a few more optimists on here.
Oh God. That's done it. You've upset Karmaramakrishnan now.
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Welcome postal. We need a few more optimists on here.
Oh God. That's done it. You've upset Karmaramakrishnan now.
Thanks! :D
On another forum I've been all "doom & gloom" about villa for ages, so tried to balance my own scales. ;) But given time...
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A beautiful sight!
(http://i.imgur.com/zS7y4ad.png)
OS is now showing some availability (must be returns) managed to sort my Mum and dad out
Good job Im banned then innit ?
To be fair we could probably do without people smoking crack pipes in the family stand :-*
A beautiful sight!
(http://i.imgur.com/zS7y4ad.png)
OS is now showing some availability (must be returns) managed to sort my Mum and dad out
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Some splendid quote fails there fellas.
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Welcome postal. We need a few more optimists on here.
Oh God. That's done it. You've upset Karmaramakrishnan now.
As long as the Shunameyan or whatever his name is is alright.
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Some splendid quote fails there fellas.
I'm learning ;)
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A beautiful sight!
(http://i.imgur.com/zS7y4ad.png)
OS is now showing some availability (must be returns) managed to sort my Mum and dad out
Who'd have thunk it
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A beautiful sight!
(http://i.imgur.com/zS7y4ad.png)
Division 1 here I come ;)